Episode 117 - Misery 3 and King Spawn 38

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Don't mean to bother you, but your friend Al sent me. Wanted me to check, see how you're doing. See if you need anything. [00:00:31] Speaker B: Foreign. [00:00:40] Speaker A: And welcome to the Malbolge. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:48] Speaker B: And I'm your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, we got some Spawn to read today. And you know what that means. That means I'm very excited. I didn't give you a chance to answer because I don't really care what you have to say. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Yeah. As you. [00:01:04] Speaker B: I'm gonna tell you. [00:01:07] Speaker A: Yeah, we do have some Spawn today. I was excited. I don't know how much I. Both issues did it for me. [00:01:15] Speaker B: You were. You were excited until you read both of them and were like, huh, it's. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Just a misery's, you know, kind of sad and depressing. [00:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:28] Speaker A: And King Spawn was kind of just there. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:32] Speaker A: It was just a weird pairing. I'm sorry. I don't want to start the episode like this. I love Spawn. [00:01:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, Johnny, we both love Spawn. [00:01:39] Speaker A: That's why we're here. [00:01:40] Speaker B: The triple digits of episodes is a testament to our love of Spawn. But yeah, it's. It's a double. It's a double linking up issue day, Johnny. We got two right in the middles. [00:01:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And two Todd fathers. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah, we're about to. We're about to have a lot more toddfather stuff, Johnny. With Toddfather jumping on writing duties again on Spawn360. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. He's gonna overextend himself again. [00:02:08] Speaker B: Isn't he already overextended? [00:02:10] Speaker A: He's like, gonna be over overextended. [00:02:13] Speaker B: I think that he might be one of those workaholics that. That's the only way he knows how to work. Give me too much to do, right? He's like, going up to Thomas Healing, being like, come on, man. Come on, man. I'll pay you next. I'll pay you next week. Just give me something right? [00:02:27] Speaker A: Give me something right. Maybe it's a budgetary thing. [00:02:31] Speaker B: I don't know. Could be they're losing money off of those. Off of that extra large salmon twitch number 8. That was extra pages. But still. Still only 2.99. Or was it 7? Whichever one it was, it was extra pages. [00:02:49] Speaker A: We love extra pages. Gunslinger is going to be like 60 pages or something. It's only like, not 60 pages, but it's going to be a lot of pages. Deadly Tales, I think it's only 3.99. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Yeah. The violator's 3.99, right? [00:03:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's. It's pretty big. [00:03:07] Speaker B: Violator is good. Johnny. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Mm. [00:03:10] Speaker B: I. I just got caught up on the third issue this week. Whoo. Oh boy. Oh boy. That's a good series. It's a good series. You haven't read any of them or just number three? [00:03:22] Speaker A: I've read one. [00:03:23] Speaker B: Oh. Number two is brutal as. Dude. It's got Viking Spawn in it. [00:03:29] Speaker A: Nice. [00:03:29] Speaker B: Spoilers. [00:03:30] Speaker A: No, I've just been behind on Spawn. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:34] Speaker A: There's just a lot going on in my life recently. So I just been. Haven't had time to like relax and sit down and read. But I think I've got a. I got a three day weekend coming up. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:03:43] Speaker A: So I. Where I don't really have that much to do so. Besides record with Rob Sketchcraft Duanes. [00:03:49] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Which will. This will come out after. No, before that episode. [00:03:53] Speaker B: Before that episode. [00:03:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. So spoiler alert. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Spoiler for the end of the episode where we were. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Spoiler. But yeah. I have a big three day weekend coming up so I'm planning on relaxing and catching up on my spawn. [00:04:06] Speaker B: Nice. Nice. Does this three day weekend involve a polar plunge in any way shape or form? [00:04:12] Speaker A: No. It involves a tamale day party where my friend's house and make tamales and. [00:04:17] Speaker B: You could have a. You could have a polar tamale plunge where you just stand outside without a shirt on and eat your tamales because you're still trying working in the kitchen. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I probably. You know, it does. You do work up a sweat. Making tamales is a lot of work. [00:04:29] Speaker B: That's, that's, that's why most people only do it the once a year. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Right. And you get all the people together to help. [00:04:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You gotta make sure the youngins aren't in the way. Just gotta get. Heck it outta here. Get outta here. [00:04:42] Speaker A: This was before my time. But this tamale party I'm going to is my friend Raleigh's and it's a great future guest. Raleigh Luna. I imagine he'll be on the show one day. [00:04:50] Speaker B: But by hook or by crook. [00:04:52] Speaker A: By hook or by crook. But one year I guess. So there's like you make tubs of masa, which is the cornmeal that goes around the. The meat. You know, it's the corn part of the sort of the. Not the husk but like the part you eat. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:05:07] Speaker A: The masa and they have like three buckets or four buckets of masa or something is like a normal amount for the amount we Make. Yeah, and, or pots. And one year, I guess one person got too drunk before they finished making tamales. So the rule now is you can't start drinking till we're on the third thing of masa. [00:05:28] Speaker B: That would have been me if I had shown up to this party. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Johnny, it starts at like 10am I. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Get too drinky too quick, and then I'm just like, hey, guess what? I'm gonna go take a nap over there. [00:05:38] Speaker A: Well, that's what happened. Everyone stopped making tamales and was just talking, being drunk. And he was like, hey, we gotta make tamales here. [00:05:48] Speaker B: That's great. [00:05:48] Speaker A: So that's why I'm bringing a flask. I'm kidding. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Just gonna, just gonna drink before you get there. Gonna start drinking at 8 in the morning. Ooh, no, don't drink at 8. If you start drinking at 8 in the morning, Johnny, you need to call me instead. [00:06:00] Speaker A: I think I've never started drinking at 8 in the morning. I probably been up late enough that I was still drinking, still drinking at 8 in the morning, but not very often. [00:06:11] Speaker B: I tried to make myself some Irish coffee a couple of times in the morning and it's, it's just too early for it. It gives you that. Because the, the key with day drinking is you have to keep drinking or you feel like garbage. And if you just have a drinking. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Or you take a, take a nap. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And if you just have the Irish coffee, then by like 11 o'clock you're just like. Because both your caffeine and the alcohol have worn off and it's just, it makes for a bad day. Don't do it. [00:06:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I, I guess I have Irish coffee on Christmas, but usually not till like 10 or 11. [00:06:47] Speaker B: Yeah, well, and then you, not at 8 in the morning drinking for the rest of the day because it's Christmas. What else are you supposed to do? You got, you got the mulled wine. [00:06:56] Speaker A: I put vodka in my orange juice every morning. That doesn't count. Not really. I don't do that. I don't know, I've never been like, I'll drink at night and I'll drink a lot. Not a lot, but like, I'll get drunk at night. But I've never been someone to like drink during the day. It just doesn't appeal to me. And like waking up, even if I'm like on a bender, like, I usually don't start drinking again until night. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the idea of drinking throughout the day, like at work, like being something who's a functioning alcoholic. What the hell? Jesus. [00:07:28] Speaker A: Sounds awful. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Work is hard enough as it is. When I can think straight, I could not imagine being like. [00:07:37] Speaker A: I won't even have, like, lunch and a beer before work. Like, I can't do it. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. No, I can't do it. [00:07:42] Speaker A: I work at night and like, I. I just. Some people will be like, yeah, I had a couple of beers at lunch, and I'm like, I can't do that. I would fall asleep. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:49] Speaker A: I just feel like shit. [00:07:51] Speaker B: No, it is not good. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Anytime I've tried it, it's been bad news. [00:07:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Not bad news. Like, bad things happen, but just like. It's just like, why did I have that one beer? [00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah, like, why did I do that? It was dumb. Yeah, absolutely. That's. Anytime I have to do anything. Like, especially if I'm nervous about doing something and I try to have a beer beforehand, the nervousness accentuates the power of the alcohol, and I'm just ruined. Absolutely no Dutch courage for me. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta get it from another country. [00:08:25] Speaker A: I'll take some Dutch courage, but I just don't require that kind of courage at work. [00:08:32] Speaker B: It sounds like if you would require that kind of courage at work, you maybe should look for a new position. [00:08:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe you're not in the best career. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Yeah, let's pass for you. I know that's. That's terrible advice for two random white guys on the Internet to give especially. It's kind of hard to find jobs in general. But if. If you find yourself having to drink to get through work, you should. You should really consider. Really consider looking somewhere else. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:02] Speaker B: But you shouldn't look anywhere else if you need some Spawn. Right, Johnny? [00:09:06] Speaker A: Nope. And you shouldn't have to drink to get through Spawn, hopefully. [00:09:10] Speaker B: I mean, the Todd father writes it sober, so you should be able to read it sober. [00:09:14] Speaker A: That's how it works. Yeah. But this. This is regarding Spawn, where each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. Except when we don't. [00:09:21] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:09:22] Speaker A: This week is no different. We have a spin off and a one of the core four titles. Our spin off this week, which we'll start with, is misery number three of four. And then we have kingspawn 38. [00:09:40] Speaker B: Hell yeah, we do. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Misery three is from August 2024, and kingspawn is from October 2024. [00:09:47] Speaker B: Nice. Not too far away ago, actually, but still feels like a lifetime ago. [00:09:54] Speaker A: Yeah, October wasn't that long ago, but it feels. Feels like it. [00:09:57] Speaker B: August feels so long ago. Goodness. [00:10:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Especially since it Got cold up here. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Oh, man, I love the cold. Love the cold. I was walking to work yesterday, Johnny, and everybody was bundled up and looking miserable. And I was just like, ha da da da dee dee dee doop. So I fucking love the cold. It's great. [00:10:17] Speaker A: I like it to some extent. I guess I prefer. I don't know. As I get older, it becomes more annoying. I understand why old people always want to be warm. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the way it goes, Johnny. Yeah, well, we deal with it, you know, we deal with it. [00:10:35] Speaker A: We move on. Even if we're miserable, by the time. [00:10:38] Speaker B: We'Re old, they will probably all be warm all the time anyway. So. [00:10:41] Speaker A: Yeah, by the time we're old, It'll be like 100 degrees every day. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:45] Speaker A: So we'll be super happy. Right. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Make do at least. [00:10:51] Speaker A: And then it'll swing from. It'll be 100 degrees 10 months out of the year. And for two months it'll be negative 100. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:59] Speaker A: Can't wait for that. Yeah. We start with Misery Number three. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Written by the Todd father himself. And we always start with the covers. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:11:09] Speaker A: I've got the. A cover here by Don Aglio. [00:11:14] Speaker B: Nice, nice, nice. [00:11:15] Speaker A: Misery. Like, it's like a kind of a. Like the scene where Misery, when Cyan touches people and, like, it shows all their crazy stuff. It's like a whole bunch of heads screaming, coming out of her head, in her hair. All the misery she's absorbed from other people. [00:11:31] Speaker B: It's in Meteor Miz, right? [00:11:36] Speaker A: It's Les Mis. [00:11:39] Speaker B: It's, we need a loaf of bread. That's what it is. You know, I haven't. I've never seen Les Mis, Johnny. Am I missing anything? [00:11:47] Speaker A: Really? [00:11:47] Speaker B: Really? [00:11:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I love Les Mis. I've seen, like, three times. [00:11:51] Speaker B: Interesting. I should probably look into it. Although every time a Les Mis song comes up on my Spotify, I'm like, no, what? [00:11:59] Speaker A: And I'm Javert. Don't you forget my name. 24601. [00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a little too earnest for me. I spend a lot of time, a lot of time being like, everybody needs to be more earnest. And yet the most desperately earnest of musicals comes out. And I'm like, yeah. No, pedal back a little bit. [00:12:21] Speaker A: You ever seen the. Have you ever seen Reefer Madness the movie? [00:12:25] Speaker B: I haven't seen Reefer Madness the movie, but I've seen Reefer Madness the musical. [00:12:30] Speaker A: That's what I mean, the musical movie. [00:12:32] Speaker B: Oh, no. I saw a local production of the musical. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Oh, nice, nice. Yeah. It's a Good show. [00:12:38] Speaker B: It was fun. It was hilarious. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a movie of it that Showtime made in like 2007 or 8 or something like that. It's really good. [00:12:47] Speaker B: Nice. I should. I should look into that. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Alan Cummings in it. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yeah, that's. Say no more. I'm gonna look it up today. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it's got really catchy tunes. I just watched that the other night. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Nice. [00:13:02] Speaker A: But Misery does not have any catchy tunes. It is not a musical. It was not Les Mis we were speaking of, but Misery. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Yes. And you have the B cover by Iguara, and it is Misery walking home late night on the streets of New York City. And there's a big spectral spawn behind her with just green glowing eyes. [00:13:24] Speaker A: That was really cool. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it is really cool. That's why I got it. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. I took the A cover. I mean, I like Spawn. He kind of looks like space ghost. [00:13:34] Speaker B: The Don Julio covers are really good. And they've got that. It's kind of watercolory, but not really watercolory. They're good. Yeah. So that's. It's a good fallback. If they've only got the Donna Gulio, you're not missing out on anything because those covers of choice. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we pop it open for the credits. [00:13:53] Speaker B: These miserable credits. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Script plot by Todd McFarlane, art by Simon Kudransky, also working overtime. Simon Kuzransky? [00:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Because is. Aren't they doing another book together, too? [00:14:07] Speaker A: Are they? [00:14:08] Speaker B: I thought. Because I thought Simon was on three books, but I might just. [00:14:11] Speaker A: Okay. No, I can't keep up. They keep announcing stuff and Thomas Healy's doing a book. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:14:17] Speaker A: It's about Nick's. Tim Seeley is doing a book about Nick's. Not Nick's, but just a book. Oh, Blood letter. [00:14:26] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:14:27] Speaker A: Did you not know that? [00:14:29] Speaker B: I did. Now. I. I don't keep up with the news, Johnny. I'm bad at it. [00:14:33] Speaker A: But then after Simon Kudransky, you've got color by FCO Placencia, lettering by N World Design. We already covered the covers. [00:14:43] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Creative director is Todd McFarlane, and editor in chief is Thomas Healey. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Johnny, you said that wrong. [00:14:51] Speaker A: Oh, Tom. Father. [00:14:53] Speaker B: No, you said that wrong. Our father. He's our father. Remember? [00:14:57] Speaker A: He's our father. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. We wanted him to be our father. Okay, so our father, Thomas Healy. [00:15:03] Speaker A: Our father, Thomas Healy. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Thanks, dad. [00:15:06] Speaker A: Thanks, dad. The dad of the Spawn universe. [00:15:09] Speaker B: He's Spawn's dad. He's Al simmons. Dad. He's Mr. Simmons. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Todd McFarlane's like well, he's like the patriarch, but like Thomas, like the dad. [00:15:22] Speaker B: He's. He's. He's Daddy. Johnny. [00:15:25] Speaker A: No, not Daddy, God damn it. [00:15:27] Speaker B: No, no, I get. I get it. I get it. It's just I've known a couple of fully grown people in their late twenties that still refer to their father as Daddy. And it's like, hold on a second. [00:15:38] Speaker A: Daddy's home. This reminds me of the sketch on 30 Rock, Daddy's boy. It's like a fake musical called Daddy's Boy, Daddy's Boy. [00:15:51] Speaker B: I'm just a silly little daddy's boy. Oh, man. 30 Rock was a great show. [00:15:58] Speaker A: It was. Previously in Misery, Sion delves deeper into the mystery surrounding her mother's death. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Okay, this is a good place to bring it up. Johnny Cyan's mother is evoked like two or three times in this issue. Starting. Starting here. You know what word never appears in this issue? [00:16:20] Speaker A: Wanda. [00:16:22] Speaker B: What? How did. How did Todd McFarlane keep himself from being like, let's just throw another Wanda in there. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Used to love saying Wanda. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Yeah, what's. What's going on there? Is he. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Where's the Wanda? [00:16:35] Speaker B: Where's the Wanda? Where is the 90s? [00:16:38] Speaker A: He's screaming Wanda every other page. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe they were like, todd, father, you get four Wandas a month. They use them sparing. Use them wisely. [00:16:49] Speaker A: And he already ran out of the other. The other titles. [00:16:52] Speaker B: He ran out of his Wanda quota. Damn. So we start, Johnny, we start in everybody and everybody's current favorite place. A courthouse in the United States of America. Everybody loves an American courthouse, don't they? No problem. [00:17:10] Speaker A: True to the red, white, and blue starts. An American flag and some pigeons. [00:17:15] Speaker B: I like that. Simon Kudransky loves these pigeons, man. So. So when I walk around tangent time, you know, we're starting early, Johnny. Walking around. I like to. I like to make fun of the pigeons when I see them. And, like, because they. They always bob their heads, and so I'm always like when I see them, which means I also look at all the other birds when I walk. And a couple weeks ago, I saw a seagull just eating a baby pigeon. [00:17:40] Speaker A: Nice. Oh, my God. [00:17:42] Speaker B: I was like, jesus Christ. And he was just like, nom, nom, nom. It was wild. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Nature's metal af. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Seagulls don't fuck around, dude. [00:17:51] Speaker A: No. They'll eat you. [00:17:52] Speaker B: No. [00:17:53] Speaker A: That's fucked up. [00:17:54] Speaker B: That was the first baby pigeon I ever saw, too. It was. It was pretty wild. [00:17:59] Speaker A: One of My friends, one time. I don't know if I've told this story on the podcast before, but one time was downtown, and there was a pigeon that was, like, dying. And my friend was standing on this platform next to this other lady, and they just. There's a pigeon dying in the road, and this car just rolled over it, and the pigeon, like, exploded. [00:18:17] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus. [00:18:18] Speaker A: And it was, like, white and red because I guess pigeons have, like, milk or something like that. [00:18:24] Speaker B: I have heard of pigeon milk. I don't know if it's a true milk, but I. I don't know if. [00:18:28] Speaker A: It'S milk, but they have, like, a white fluid in them. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:31] Speaker A: And I heard exploded in, like, a shower of red and white. And the lady next to her on the platform just immediately threw up. Pigeon explode. And then someone just goes like, that's great. [00:18:45] Speaker B: Oh, man, that's. That's wild. You see some crazy shit downtown. Just. [00:18:50] Speaker A: Why is there always, like, a pigeon dying in a parking lot? I feel like there's every parking lot, there's, like, a fucking pigeon dying in it. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's. It's the cruel history of the pigeon, Johnny. Because pigeons were brought to America literally, as pets for wealthy people. And then, like, we just let them go, and now they're a public nuisance. So pigeons are technically domesticated birds. So they're just like, I'm going to hang out with people, and they don't have the. As. As domesticated animals. They don't really have very good survival instincts. So they're pretty stupid. So that's why they're always dying. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Pigeon. Sorry. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah, there's pigeons on this courthouse. And we go in and there's some fucking lawyers talking. [00:19:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Or a cop. There's that copy. [00:19:36] Speaker B: It's a. It's a DA It's a DA who looks a lot like that cop from Plainfield, Indiana. Johnny. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Right. Well, no, the guy in the red shirt looks like the cop from Plainfield in the end. It is the cop. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Yes. I thought he was the D.A. [00:19:49] Speaker A: He'S a cop because he's the husband of the woman. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Spoilers. But no, because she's. She's a cop. And that's the big reveal, is that he's the D.A. and she's married to the D.A. [00:20:03] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:03] Speaker B: And he's a piece of shit. [00:20:06] Speaker A: All right. You got it? I thought he was a cop, too. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Oh, no, it's. It's buried. It's. It's. That's kind of the mid. Mid issue reveal of the fourth Fourth issue or early issue reveal? Because remember, he's like, the fourth issue opens with him in his office saying bad shit to his wife. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I don't know. It's been a. It's been a lot of spawn between then and then. [00:20:31] Speaker B: It's also been a lot of nothing. Misery is just kind of there. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it is. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:40] Speaker A: See, this DA is talking to a lawyer. [00:20:43] Speaker B: They're talking about their. Their cases. Then the. The lawyer is like, hey, I haven't seen your wife around. What's wrong with him? And he's like, she. She got some kind of flu or something. [00:20:53] Speaker A: He says, tell her. Said hi and said he will. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah. We cut to his house where we see his wife laying in bed, and their son comes up and is like, hey, mama. Hey, mama, I brought you this bear. So that way you feel better. And then we get to see what kind of flu she got. Johnny and flu. It ain't no. [00:21:14] Speaker A: She got. She got beat by this dude. [00:21:17] Speaker B: She got. She got flu right into her face is what it is. Oh, Jesus. [00:21:22] Speaker A: This flu. Yeah. [00:21:23] Speaker B: This guy, terrible. This guy's a piece of shit. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:26] Speaker B: This little kid is an angel, though. Look at that. He's got this. He's got his. That's got to be his favorite teddy bear. That makes him feel better. So he's bringing it to his mom so that she feels better. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Pretty nice. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Pretty nice. [00:21:38] Speaker A: It always sucks when your parents were sick. You never knew what to do. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:42] Speaker A: When you're a kid, you're just like, what? [00:21:46] Speaker B: That usually meant that I had to go to work with the other parent because the last thing a sick parent needs is just some needy children running around being like, hey, mom. Hey, Mom. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember my mom was sick one Easter, and so she, like. It was really sweet. She like. Yeah, she had some Easter eggs, like, left over or something, and she just wrote notes of like, IOUs, like IOU. A pack of Star wars cards. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Do you still have. Do you still have all those IOUs? No, I don't. As often as possible. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I should have hold on to him now, now. No, but she. She did. She took us out to, like, get candy and, like, some trading cards and stuff after Easter, which was really nice. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:22:29] Speaker A: Because she was super sick. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:32] Speaker A: No fun to be sick on a holiday. [00:22:33] Speaker B: No, that's no fun to be sick anyway. But especially especially not when you're expecting to have a lot more people around than normal. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I was sick on Fourth of July. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Oh, geez, Covid. See, having to Be sick around people is a whole extra level of nonsense. [00:22:51] Speaker A: Yeah. It seems like it happens less and less. People are getting smarter about it. [00:22:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Sometimes it creeps up on you. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. You go camping with your nephews on fall break, you might get a deadly stomach virus and shit yourself in the woods. [00:23:09] Speaker B: Like a bear. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Like a bear. So, speaking of bears, Cyan's just reading some stuff. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Yeah. She's going over Granny Blake's mail, looking at some stuff, and Granny Blake is. Is like, hey, Cyan, I need you to get some stuff for me. Give me a. Give me a glass of water. Cyan's being petulant. She's like, you want any ice? You want any ice? [00:23:35] Speaker A: And grandma's rocking out to some fucking tunes. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah, she's. She's racking up those minutes. I can't wait to see what her Spotify rap looks like. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, mine was big. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Hers. Hers is gonna be. Hers is gonna be like 120,000 minutes of. Of gospel. [00:23:51] Speaker A: How many minutes was yours? [00:23:53] Speaker B: 45,000 this year. [00:23:56] Speaker A: 45,000. Let me see what mine is. [00:23:58] Speaker B: I think yours was 29. [00:24:00] Speaker A: 16,000. [00:24:01] Speaker B: 16. [00:24:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Pretty low. [00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:06] Speaker A: There's a lot of the year I didn't. I started listening. I picked it. Really picked it up in the last few months. Started listening to music because. I don't know, it was just more helpful than podcasts for what I want. [00:24:17] Speaker B: It comes. It comes in waves sometimes. [00:24:20] Speaker A: Sometimes I would listen to podcasts like earlier in the year, but now I've been listening a lot more music. I don't know why. [00:24:27] Speaker B: That's just the way it goes, Johnny. [00:24:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Sometimes. [00:24:30] Speaker A: I got a shitload of fucking video games though. My year. Xbox is embarrassing. I'm not even gonna fucking read it. I guess I have to now. [00:24:37] Speaker B: Well, now you do, Johnny. Yes, Tell us. Tell us how much Diablo 4 did you play? [00:24:43] Speaker A: You're not gonna. You're gonna fucking fall out of your chair. 723 hours. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. [00:24:49] Speaker A: That's a full month of my life. Like a full month. No sleeping. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. That is. [00:24:55] Speaker A: I'm gonna say a lot of times I leave it paused and leave or leave myself in town and I go do other in my house and I come back to it. Because Diablo doesn't kick you off for like two hours if you leave it idle. [00:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:08] Speaker A: Or like an hour. So I'll just leave it idle while I do the dishes and I'll come back to it. So I will say a lot of times I just leave it paused and open. But still, it's a shitload of time. [00:25:19] Speaker B: That is you. You played more Diablo than I listened to podcasts total this year. I mean, I guess accepting this one that I have to listen to for quality control. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Sometimes I would listen to a podcast while playing Diablo. Think about that. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Oh, and then. And then. And then you got some music going on, real quiet in the background, and then you've got another TV behind you that's showing Godzilla. So that way you never have to be left alone with your thoughts. [00:25:43] Speaker A: Yeah, basically, yeah. I mean, I have, like, read a book while having something on the TV on mute and listen to music before. [00:25:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You learn very quickly what music you can and can't listen to while reading. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Mine has to have. Not have lyrics. [00:25:59] Speaker B: I. Mine can't be super lyric forward. And for some reason, I can't listen to Primus while I read. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:07] Speaker B: It just. It's. I guess it's the angularity of the slap bass just pulls me right out of whatever I'm reading. [00:26:14] Speaker A: I like reading the movie soundtracks. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Get you some. Get you some nice atmospheric black metal. And that's all the words are just some different degree of yelling, so there's no distinction on them. It's great. It's a great thing to listen to. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:30] Speaker B: Just, like, wash over you or some atmospheric sludge. Atmospheric sludge is good. [00:26:37] Speaker A: I like that. I like that. The name of that genre sounds interesting. Interesting. So Granny come. Granny comes and checks on Cyan, who's going through some paperwork there. And she's like, oh, I'm just finishing my homework. [00:26:47] Speaker B: Yep. But we know Granny knows that she's lying. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's not looking through Glenn Blake's mail. She's looking through all that shit she stole from the hospital. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's right. Because her and her friend broke in and stole all those medical records. Right. The rehab center that she was in. [00:27:04] Speaker A: She wasn't. And the granny's like, oh, I gotta do this big projects. And then Granny's like, oh, I wasn't much of a student even when I had my sight, so can't help you there. [00:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:12] Speaker A: All right, Granny. [00:27:14] Speaker B: And she's like, not prying, but tell me why you and your daddy ain't speaking. [00:27:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:24] Speaker B: And here's where we get the. Another evocation of Wanda, where it's like, I miss Mom a lot. And you think that Granny Blake would have been like, oh, Wanda. But no, she says, we all do, baby. We all miss Wanda. She should have said, we all miss Wanda. God. Something. Then we Got a. You know. And then Cyan, she asked her for. [00:27:49] Speaker A: A little bit of advice. Like, if something really bad happened to you, Granny, what would you do? And Granny's like, well, I call the police. And we know that that is not gonna help. [00:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Not gonna. It's a big generational gap there. Because Granny would be like, the police are gonna help us. And Cyan's like, absolutely. Absolutely not. She's like, acab till I die. [00:28:08] Speaker A: You know it. You know she is. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we cut to later, and Cyan's waiting for the bus. And she gets on the bus. Who's this guy with this. Is that guy next to her wearing a helmet, waiting for the bus? [00:28:24] Speaker A: No, he's just wearing a fucking bowl cut. He's just a nerd. [00:28:28] Speaker B: He's just a nerd, man. You meet some nerdy people waiting for the bus. But Cyan gets on the bus. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Yeah. So Spawn. It's weird. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I saw this. I saw this weirdo, Johnny. He was leaving Spawn issues on the. On the seats when he left, man. Who does he think he is? But Cyan is approached by an enhomed man who is an emissary of Spawn. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Okay? The opening quote, where your friend Al sent me and wanted me to check on you. [00:28:57] Speaker B: This was a great touch. I fucking love that. Spawn's still using his. His Rat Alley denizens contacts and is like, hey, guys, you want to help? [00:29:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:08] Speaker B: You want to be a part of something? And science. Cyan's not very enthused by this. [00:29:16] Speaker A: She's not very receptive to it. No. [00:29:18] Speaker B: She's like, why? What the fuck? Is he. Is he following me? Is he having me followed? Why? [00:29:23] Speaker A: And he's like, he trusts you. But look, that means people are going to come after you hard if you look for these answers about your mom. [00:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:31] Speaker A: And they'll kill you if you aren't prepared. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:34] Speaker A: And San's just like, I just want to know. I want to know who killed my mom. We know it was Clown and the forces of the Devil by creating a frenzy that caused a riot. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know, she's. She's like, well, do you have any answers for me? And he's like, hey, man, I'm just. I was in the middle of a nap, and big scary Spawn came over and had me do a job for him. So I don't. I don't know. You got it. You got to do it yourself. He's like, but maybe your mom had a job, right? Maybe go to where she worked. That might be A good place to start. [00:30:12] Speaker A: And she worked at Burger House. Not really. [00:30:14] Speaker B: No. [00:30:16] Speaker A: I bet that Burger House is good, though. [00:30:17] Speaker B: I bet it is. It looks delicious. [00:30:19] Speaker A: I could go nice greasy spoon. [00:30:22] Speaker B: But it's. [00:30:23] Speaker A: But didn't Brooke work at a coffee shop before we apply? She has two jobs. [00:30:27] Speaker B: I think we are. I think. I think that is. Yes. [00:30:30] Speaker A: I mean, if you live in New York fucking City working at a coffee shop, you probably do have to have two jobs. [00:30:33] Speaker B: You probably need more than two jobs. [00:30:35] Speaker A: I need three jobs. [00:30:38] Speaker B: So she's there to see Brooke, and she's not there to see Brooke to maybe scam some free food. She's there to use Brooke's phone. [00:30:44] Speaker A: I would also be like, can I. And can I also get some fries, please? [00:30:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And then Brooke's like, I mean, maybe I guess I can let you use my phone, but I gotta wait till break. Is that okay? And then. And then when Brooke goes on break, she takes her break in the alley. And then her and Cyan have a. Have a little. [00:31:03] Speaker A: It's so funny because her. The idea of Cyan not having a phone gave me anxiety. What's she gonna do if this happens? I actually. The other day I went to the grocery store and I left my phone at home and I was like, I freaked out. [00:31:16] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus. I would have freaked out and gone. [00:31:18] Speaker A: Back home because I was like, what if my car breaks down on the way home? Yeah, what if I. This. What is that? And I was like, ah. [00:31:25] Speaker B: I mean, I had a small panic attack when I was sitting on the couch and my phone was on the other side of the room on the kitchen counter, and I was like, oh, God. Oh, no. What if. What if. What if my mom calls and I need to hurry to the airport and catch a red eye? No, my phone calls. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Isn't it great to have these machines that can deliver us any type of news or any type of message at any time? We just have to be prepared for that. Isn't that great? [00:31:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's not nerve wracking at all, Johnny. [00:31:55] Speaker A: It's not nerve wracking at all. Phones are fucking nerve wracking. [00:31:58] Speaker B: It's not. It hasn't completely rewired the way our brains work? [00:32:02] Speaker A: Nope, not at all. [00:32:04] Speaker B: It definitely hasn't gotten us addicted to the feeling of receiving bad news and being like, ah, I need more bad news. I need it. [00:32:12] Speaker A: I don't want bad news. I want good news. [00:32:14] Speaker B: Only we want good news. But we get such a dopamine rush when we receive the bad news that we have to then look for more bad news that. I think we're addicted to it, Johnny. [00:32:24] Speaker A: I can see that. [00:32:25] Speaker B: We're addicted to the CNN and the infra and the maximum. [00:32:30] Speaker A: I'm blissfully ignorant. Which is worse, probably. [00:32:35] Speaker B: I mean, six of one, half a dozen, you know? [00:32:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Brooke out in the alley is like, yo, I need to use your phone. Let's go. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:44] Speaker A: And she's just like, I don't know. [00:32:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Science. Science is not like giving her anything. And Brooke's like, you know what? This. Go find somebody else to borrow the phone from. I. I don't have time for this. And so, you know, Cyan's doing the. Doing that thing where she's like, it's not what you think, but then not actually explaining what it is, so. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Because she's trying to protect book. Because it's one of those the more, you know, the more you get drug into it. Which is literally what the unhomed men just worried her or warned her about. So I guess. I guess she's paying attention. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:22] Speaker B: But then she goes back to Granny Blake's house and is still pouring through the medical record or the medical records she stole all spread out on the. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Bed, and she finds the card of that detective gave her a card. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah, the missing persons lady. [00:33:43] Speaker A: The woman who we know is Jen, who was. Is being beaten by her shitty husband. [00:33:49] Speaker B: Piece of garbage that guy is. Yeah. So then. Then Cyan sneaks out of the house late at night and is walking, walking, walking to Arkham Asylum. [00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:01] Speaker B: Basically to St. Joseph's adolescent treatment center where she was enrolled. What is. [00:34:09] Speaker A: Somewhere in the 270s. She like, went there when. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Yeah. What did they call it when they. When they sent you to the conscript. [00:34:17] Speaker A: I don't know what it's called. [00:34:18] Speaker B: Whatever. Whatever. She was there. [00:34:20] Speaker A: Sent to boarding school. [00:34:21] Speaker B: Yeah. For a while. [00:34:22] Speaker A: And so shipped away is what they say. Yeah, they shipped her away. And she uses her powers to sneak past the nurse. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Get into the bowels of the hospital. [00:34:33] Speaker B: Yeah. It goes. Goes down the longest, darkest corridors to. To an. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Oh, look this. There's Yaqueen Phoenix's Joker. [00:34:42] Speaker B: Oh, it does look a lot like the hospital from. [00:34:52] Speaker A: It doesn't look like the hospital from Joker. And like, there's a whole sequence where he steals files and, like, looks through them. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Thinking the Todd father is a big Joker fan. I mean, nobody thought of Falia Duo. [00:35:02] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:35:04] Speaker A: I was a fan of the first Joker. Second Joker. I want us. I actually want to see it again. Now because like Quentin Tarantino loves it, Hideo Kojima loves it. And I'm like, did I miss something? I mean, it's definitely a weird movie. It's a big swing. [00:35:19] Speaker B: I mean, Johnny, if we know nothing about you besides this, we do know that you love a big swing. [00:35:24] Speaker A: I love a big swing. I love musicals. So I was expected to absolutely adore it. [00:35:29] Speaker B: You love a swing musical. Have they done a swing music musical? [00:35:33] Speaker A: Isn't newsies kind of swing? [00:35:36] Speaker B: Not really. [00:35:37] Speaker A: I'm sure that Smokey Joe's Cafe. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Maybe we need what we need the cherry popping daddies to write a goddamn Broadway. [00:35:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Perfect and the mighty. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Yeah, the way, the way the, the culture goes in cycles. I mean, it's about time for that swing swing renaissance to happen again. And. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Right, because that was like the 90s. [00:35:59] Speaker B: And they fucking love a jukebox musical. So it's probably gonna happen, Johnny. And then across the world, teenagers are gonna have to teach their parents what cherry poppin daddies means again. [00:36:12] Speaker A: Good old cherry poppin daddies. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Oh boy. Fucking, what a terror. I can't believe they were allowed to say that name on the radio. Johnny. [00:36:20] Speaker A: Yeah. What a. What a fucking vile band name. [00:36:27] Speaker B: Fucking ridiculous. You know what? I would wear a zoot suit. I don't know if I'm. I don't know if I'm fit enough to look good in a zoot suit, but I would totally. I would. [00:36:39] Speaker A: You riot in a zoot suit. Would you do a zoot suit? Riot. [00:36:43] Speaker B: Riot. Well, I'm not, I'm not a. I'm not. I'm not sexing any sailors. Wives. Wives. While they're out, out on the seas, Johnny. So. Oh, you're on the safe from that. But yes, there's Dr. In a very dark office with just like one little lamp talking to his wife about their upcoming plans to Disneyland with the kids. [00:37:10] Speaker A: Gotta go to Disneyland. I've been to Disneyland when I was a kid, but I was very young. I went to Disney World once and I was like, like 10 years ago. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Nice. We. We went to Disney World as a family. And the only reason I know that is because there are pictures of my mom, my dad and my sister and a stroller. I was insane. [00:37:31] Speaker A: And you're the stroller. [00:37:33] Speaker B: And then. And then I went in college once to Disney World and it was fucking awesome. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that's pretty cool. I went before Star Wars Land though. I really missed out. [00:37:42] Speaker B: Me too. I went. I went like a decade and a half before Star Wars Land, so I really missed out. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, me too. I went like, I went before the Force Awakens fucking came out. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I went in 2008 is when I went. So before a lot of them came out. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that's 2015. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Before. Before old Georgie Porgy sold his. [00:38:02] Speaker A: Yeah, they were making Clone wars and shit at that point. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And then this doctor hears a noise and I love this, this look he gives where he's just like looking over his glasses to see what was happening and it's just like, I gotta go, hun. Yeah, it's a great, it's a great look. I also, I also like the, the aesthetic choice of glasses reflecting the light in this way. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it's cool without glowing. [00:38:32] Speaker B: It's. It's used to great effect here. It was used to great effect in the Batman series. The black mirror drawn by Jock and Commander or Commissioner Gordon's son is a psychopath and is always depicted in darkness with like the bright light reflecting glasses. It's a very good indicator that somebody's not a great person. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Yes. They also do it in Nice House on the Lake for Walter who's like the main villain. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Nice house on the lake. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Nice house on the lake. Nice house by the sea. [00:39:13] Speaker B: Oh, nice. I really. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Sequel. [00:39:15] Speaker B: I really. That's it. I'm done. Johnny, that pun was one too far. Goodbye. So long. [00:39:23] Speaker A: That's it. [00:39:23] Speaker B: It's been wonderful, Pod. But no, this guy gets up to, to go see what the matter was and he's, he's walking through those darkened. Jesus Christ, Johnny. It gives me so, so much anxiety to see places of business just without lights on. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's interesting. [00:39:49] Speaker B: It's like, like there are people there. There's definitely going to be like fluorescent lights going on in the hallway. [00:39:55] Speaker A: It's like when I was a kid, my mom was a teacher and sometimes we'd stay late and like walk around the school. No lights on. Was always really creepy. [00:40:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's, that's the school outside of school time is weird. Most frightening places to be. [00:40:07] Speaker A: It's wacky. [00:40:09] Speaker B: And so he eventually finds Cyan in the back room looking through some files. Oh no, no, no. He comes back. [00:40:16] Speaker A: Yeah, she made a noise to lure him away. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And she, she's just digging through his files and he's like, what the fuck are you doing in my office? And he's like, wait, you're that girl. Who's that girl? It's Cyan. [00:40:33] Speaker A: What girl? [00:40:36] Speaker B: Where is she? And he's like, hey, there are people looking for you. And she's like, yeah, but none of them were police. Why didn't you not send the police after me? And he's like, how about the Da Baha? [00:40:48] Speaker A: What are you hiding from them? [00:40:50] Speaker B: But then she's like, well, you may. He's trying to, you know, invalidate her argument by saying you're a junkie. And she's like, I mean, you're the one who made me a junkie, dude. [00:41:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not sure what went. I mean, we know that like some kind of drug treatment therapy went down when she went to the hospital originally. I haven't read those issues specifically though. [00:41:12] Speaker B: Me either. [00:41:13] Speaker A: There. I don't know if the compendium's out that has those yet. Maybe it is. [00:41:18] Speaker B: How many is there? About 50. In a compendium. [00:41:21] Speaker A: There's 50 in a compendium. So. [00:41:23] Speaker B: And aren't there six? [00:41:25] Speaker A: I mean, maybe five is out. [00:41:27] Speaker B: Okay, so five would have probably up to two. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Up to 250. [00:41:30] Speaker B: Unless 260 is out. Or unless 260. Unless six is out. You probably wouldn't have have access to this in the compendium form. I mean, I have the digital copies from that humble bundle. I just, you know, struggling to read all the spawn all the time. [00:41:47] Speaker A: This is compendium. Six is out. [00:41:49] Speaker B: Okay, so you might be able to. You might be able to read through it through these tales, these tales of. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Junkie hood that'll go take you right up to 300. [00:41:58] Speaker B: Mm, perfect. And I mean, Jesus, Johnny, we've been doing this show since a little after 300 came out. And you could even have another compendium. All the way up to 350. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll probably wait a bit on that because they're so new, right? [00:42:16] Speaker B: Yeah, well, they're gonna. They're gonna send them out in the trades first. In the regular trades. [00:42:23] Speaker A: Yep. And so basically this guy's like, look, you're not going anywhere. Pulls that gun on her and she's. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Like, well, actually, you know what is going somewhere? This child porn I found on your phone. So. Bye. Bye. I'm sure that'll put a damper on your Disneyland plans. Ooh, got him. Got him. [00:42:44] Speaker A: Thing is, she already sent them, so he could just shoot her anyway. [00:42:47] Speaker B: Yeah, so like, what? I mean, they've already got him on that, Right? But who did she send them to, Al? [00:42:57] Speaker A: Terry? Hopefully she didn't send the actual pictures because then she's a criminal. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Just the proof. [00:43:07] Speaker B: And now. Now go fuck yourself. And she flips him off and leaves. That's great. So much. So much anger in this in this cyan. And then she leaves. And she goes to Al's Deli, Johnny. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Owned by Al Simmons. [00:43:22] Speaker B: Al Simmons Deli. And she goes to change into her streetwalker uniform. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Him. Yeah. She looks like something like the Fifth Element or like Alias. [00:43:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, she really does look like Alias. But she. [00:43:39] Speaker A: Yeah, because she'd always put on those crazy wigs. [00:43:41] Speaker B: She's. She's hanging out with the ladies of the night, the purveyors of the oldest profession, trying to. You know, She's. She's a black widow spider, Johnny. She's just waiting for somebody to fall into a trap. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Yep. [00:43:57] Speaker B: She hangs out for an hour outside and is like, God damn, it's cold out here. And I am wearing no clothes. So she goes back into the deli and buys some coffee. Oh, Jesus, I could not imagine. [00:44:11] Speaker A: Then a little later, then. [00:44:13] Speaker B: Then about almost an hour, another hour later, a cop pulls up. Obviously. Obviously a cop who knows that this is going on and is, you know, getting some. Getting some money under the table. He's like, you ladies. You ladies got another hour or then I have to actually do my real job, so don't make me do my real job. [00:44:36] Speaker A: Okay, so this is where I got confused. This guy also has a mustache and kind of looks like the DA Guy. Yeah. [00:44:41] Speaker B: But this. This guy's got. This guy's got like a Fu Manchu, so it's mustache. And. And then apparently part of their deal is he always gets a taste of the new ones. So he makes Cyan get in his car and then it's like, hey, guess what? I got some smack. You're gonna get some smack. Let's have some smack. And so he's trying to forcefully give her some. Some. Some heron. Some heron, some great white, some. [00:45:12] Speaker A: The boy and the heroine. [00:45:17] Speaker B: There's a. There's an emergency room kind of over by me. And you can tell they deal a lot with overdoses because there's literally a list of all of the. All of the synonyms for heroin on the wall. They're like, if you have had any of these, please inform us immediately. Yeah, it's. It's quite a long list, Joni. But anyway, so Cyan is struggling because this guy is trying to pump her full of drugs. And in this. In this scuffle, she touches him. And the miserableness happens, the misery. And we get this fucking incredible two page spread of skeleton cop and skeleton. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Cop with, like, people running from him and falling and people he's killed. [00:46:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:12] Speaker A: Bloody bullet casings. [00:46:14] Speaker B: Like. [00:46:14] Speaker A: Like a crazy cyborg hand thing. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:18] Speaker A: The long arm of the law, you might say. [00:46:20] Speaker B: Yeah, indeed. And like. Like a phantom face in the background and what looks like a bomb. Is that a bomb? I don't know if that's a bomb. [00:46:28] Speaker A: It's like a plaque with like a crucified person on it. [00:46:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. It is. It is. It's got. It's got protect, serve, honor written in that, you know, like, psychopath way. Oh, it's so good. [00:46:43] Speaker A: This is awesome. [00:46:45] Speaker B: It's great. Freaky as hell. And then, you know, we know. [00:46:51] Speaker A: We know what's going on, but it just kind of describes it again. [00:46:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker A: That she's getting all the acts of sadistic and cruel acts penetrated, perpetrate upon those you sworn to protect has been thrown into her mind. [00:47:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And not only into her mind, but also into his mind. So they're both reliving them together and it's like the worst show on earth, Johnny. And. And they're. They're caught in the throes of these remembrances until. Until Cyan slowly passes out. And then as we see her passed out in the. In the front of this cop car, we see this cop just like. Like looking like his brain got smushed and he's bleeding from the eyes and he's like. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Yeah. He looks up. This has got scanners just trying to blow his head up. [00:47:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, boy. That's where the issue is. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Cliffhanger. That's the cliffhanger there. She killed a cop or hurt a cop. [00:47:48] Speaker B: Boy. [00:47:49] Speaker A: And you get the skull at the end. [00:47:51] Speaker B: That's some rough stuff, Johnny. [00:47:54] Speaker A: That is rough, rough stuff. [00:47:58] Speaker B: It is the ad for New generation, new stories, new you. We got that. It's got that same twitch cover with the kitty on it. Johnny. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Yep. All the ads for the next few. [00:48:10] Speaker B: Issues of Spin offs that spawn Origins Collection Volume 1. Still only 9.99. Grab that Witchblade ad. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Get an ad for the new witchblade and Warhammer 40k is toy head. Pretty cool looking toys. [00:48:32] Speaker B: Yeah, they are. I like that big old hammer that one guy has. Or is that an axe? Isn't that a hammer? [00:48:38] Speaker A: It's an axe. Hammer. [00:48:39] Speaker B: It's a hammer. Ax. And that big old double barreled blaster. [00:48:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I admire people to play that for real. That's a lot of dedication. [00:48:51] Speaker B: It is a lot of dedication. It's a lot of. It's a lot. It's a lot. It was fun. [00:48:57] Speaker A: I played it. [00:48:58] Speaker B: I played it when I was little and it was fun. [00:49:00] Speaker A: Did you own any? [00:49:01] Speaker B: Well, I got the I got the kit so it had the little figurines. I was terrible. I was terrible at painting them. But one year for my birthday, my mom commissioned the game store guy to paint three actual figures for me. So that way I had three really good looking ones. And they were awesome. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Oh, that's great. [00:49:21] Speaker B: They were so good. He did a good job on them. [00:49:23] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:49:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:25] Speaker A: The only miniatures game I ever played was Hero Clicks. And those came pre. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah, those painted. Those ones were not for crazy people, Joanie. Yeah, those were for people who just wanted to play a fun game. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Right? [00:49:40] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. If you were to ask anybody who plays Warhammer if they thought it was fun, I'm pretty sure they would not say it was fun. I'm pretty sure they would say this is the most miserable thing I've ever done with my life. And I fucking. No. [00:49:54] Speaker A: Hopefully not. Hopefully not. [00:49:56] Speaker B: Well, it's a. It's a really. It's not a tough game to play. It's. It's an easy. It's pretty easy game to play, but it is tough to be good at it because it does. Unlike, you know, each successive edition of D and D makes it a little easier for the players to, you know, be good. But no, you gotta, you gotta. You are at the mercy of those dice. So, so much in that game, really. And it can. You can be doing well and it can. It can turn on a dime. It is insane. [00:50:30] Speaker A: When I was a kid, my friends claimed that I had, like, good luck with dice. So maybe I should have played it. [00:50:35] Speaker B: I mean, it was those loaded dice you were using. [00:50:38] Speaker A: No, I had these purple dice and my friend James would call them fruity dice because he didn't like me playing with them because he thought they were cheating because he thought they rolled so good. Now they were just normal dice. [00:50:49] Speaker B: So what you're saying is we need to hit that Bally's temporary casino and make some money. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Yeah, we can play some craps, I guess. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Why? [00:50:58] Speaker A: If you could teach me how to. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Play craps, I mean, you roll some. [00:51:01] Speaker A: Dice and they tell you if you win or not. [00:51:04] Speaker B: Yeah, like I think. Because I think you place bets on whether you're going to roll. Like either you're gonna roll a 7 or an 11 or lower than 7 or higher than 11. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:20] Speaker B: And then you just place. You. You make your bets based on that. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Interesting. I've never played it, but. [00:51:26] Speaker B: And then you can also get at it. I think you can also bet on. You can say, I'm gonna roll this and then if you roll that, you win. If you don't, I don't know. You can bet on everything. [00:51:37] Speaker A: I mean, I mean, nowadays you really can. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like roulette. There's so many different ways to bet in roulette. You can do evens, you can do odds, you can do red, you can do blacks, you can do a specific number. You can do a range of numbers. It's. [00:51:51] Speaker A: I heard my neighbors through the wall arguing about sports betting yesterday or two days ago. [00:51:55] Speaker B: Very exciting. [00:51:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, great, love, love to hear the neighbors fight through the wall, especially about sports betting. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Oh man, there, there's. There have got to be so many people who have just run themselves into some massive. [00:52:08] Speaker A: I can't imagine, like, if you're addicted to gambling and it's so easy access. [00:52:11] Speaker B: It's so easy. Like, and as you're losing, you can do an in game part of delay and just like extend it on. I'm pretty sure that if I were to download the app and just try it once, I would somehow end up losing $40,000. [00:52:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm never touching that. [00:52:27] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. [00:52:28] Speaker A: I'll gamble. I'll gamble with my trading card packs. That's my form of gambling. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah. That's me too. [00:52:35] Speaker A: Or like Japanese gacha machines. [00:52:37] Speaker B: Oh, gotcha pond. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I like, I like gambling that if you run out of the money you started with or any money that you've gotten, you don't owe it back, which doesn't really exist. [00:52:52] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:52:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Sitting right next to our box of Christmas decorations. [00:53:14] Speaker A: Guy spawn ornaments. [00:53:15] Speaker B: No. I got my little caganet though. Do you know about the caganet? [00:53:20] Speaker A: No. [00:53:21] Speaker B: So Catalonians love poop jokes. They're very, very poop positive group of people. And for nativity scenes, they believe that Jesus came to the world as it is. It's not an idealized world. Everything, everything that happens in the world was happening at the time of Christ's birth. So they always include a cagane or a pooper. You see that little poop there in the nativity scene? Because if it was a crowded inn and they were in the, in the fucking barn, then there was definitely somebody out there taking a shit while Jesus was being born. Because, you know, where is this Catalonian region of Spain? Like Barcelona. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:54:10] Speaker B: And so for their nativity scenes, they've got a little pooper and they always hide them in the back. So I have a pooper but no nativity scene. [00:54:17] Speaker A: Okay. I like that. [00:54:19] Speaker B: It's it's great. [00:54:21] Speaker A: One year my mom really put all the action figures in the manger. So it's like Star wars characters and velociraptors and I, I see those a. [00:54:31] Speaker B: Lot where people have like baby Yoda as the. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Yeah, mine was just regular Yoda because baby Yoda didn't exist. [00:54:36] Speaker B: Yeah, but so. So Yoda was the smallest one because they, they can't make him three inches. [00:54:41] Speaker A: No, he's a tiny little action figure. Well, that was manger talk. Hopefully. Keep that in. Yeah, put it in, have the break, then have manger talk. And now we'll get ready for kingspawn38. [00:54:55] Speaker B: So be sure to get your cagane. We need to. We need to position the Todd or proposition the Todd father to make a spawn related kaganay that we can add to our nativity scenes. Yeah. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Hey, can you make a figure of spawn pooping? I mean, if you make some. That spawn kills every spawn action figure. It wouldn't be that far from it. [00:55:15] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it wouldn't. [00:55:16] Speaker A: If you made some bum bums, I mean, that basically is. They made bum bums. You get one of those for your Christmas tree. [00:55:24] Speaker B: It's just right there. It's right on the package. It says so on the tin. [00:55:28] Speaker A: Well, what it says on this tin is that we're covering Kingspawn 38 next. [00:55:32] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:55:34] Speaker A: And like with everything. We start with the covers. Yeah, there are two covers. [00:55:40] Speaker B: This is the, this is the one that gave me pause because there is. There's a Mark Spears cover, which. Man, I fucking love a Mark Spears cover, but also a Jonathan Clappian cover. And I sat there in the shop being like. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Gladiation'S crazy. I love it. [00:56:00] Speaker B: Yeah. So I, I eventually had to go with the Glapian because it is, It's. It's much more dynamic and it's just. [00:56:05] Speaker A: Well, it's Mark Spears. It was kind of Mark Spears doing a little different than he normally does. [00:56:10] Speaker B: Yeah. But it's. It's that classic King Spawn image of King of Spawn sitting on a. On a throne of skulls. [00:56:18] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, very classic. That's the one I've got is this cover. [00:56:21] Speaker B: It's a very good one. And I wanted to get it so bad because it's Mark Spears, but I just fell in love with. I am obsessed with Jonathan Galapian. I am so excited for no Home here. His shit has. It's got like that Greg Capullo was. Was. [00:56:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Mid. Mid run on his stuff. It's got the. It's so it's got that flavor of Spawn. To me, it's. It's what I think of when I think of Spawn. [00:56:47] Speaker A: He's, like, riding, like, the clown is turned into, like, a magma beast and, like, riding him. Yeah. So dynamic and crazy and interest. Just tells this whole story of, like, what the fuck is going on here? [00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah. It sounds. It sounds like something that they would have made an Iron Maiden song about. [00:57:03] Speaker A: Yeah. The spawn rode the flaming clown. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And if Dio sang it, there would be something about a rainbow in it, too. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Hey, put it in there. No, they're both great. But I think I do. I am regretting I'm having buyers remorse. I wish I would have gotten the Galapian. [00:57:21] Speaker B: I mean, but we love Mark Spears. Yeah. You should never have buyer's remorse if you're getting a Mark Spears. [00:57:26] Speaker A: That's true. [00:57:27] Speaker B: Because it is a quality piece of work. Yeah. [00:57:30] Speaker A: And you still get some of that neon green kind of tint coming off of Spawn. His, like, light sources that are always so crazy colors. [00:57:37] Speaker B: It's also got that. That King Spawn ness that. That puppeteer Lee started with, like, the single light source, only for this. The single light source is Spawn's eyes. And so it's really. It's really good. Mark Spears is greater what he does. Johnny, I don't know if you know this. [00:57:55] Speaker A: I do know this. [00:57:56] Speaker B: He's also sweetheart. [00:57:58] Speaker A: And a great podcast. Yes. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And his monsters book. It's fucking incredible. [00:58:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:06] Speaker B: I'm very excited for Spawn. 66. 77. [00:58:09] Speaker A: Oh, Spawn. 76. 77. [00:58:11] Speaker B: 76. Yeah. 77. 77. Yeah, I know it's a double. I can't remember which one it is. 66. 77. Yeah. Because it's. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it's the 70s, baby. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:22] Speaker A: He's gonna go see Star wars in the theater. [00:58:25] Speaker B: That's gonna be a whole issue. He's gonna be black. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Whoa, what's that line at the man's Chinese Theater? I guess that'd be la. So maybe a different theater. The one in New York. [00:58:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know any New York theaters. So, I mean, I guess I'm ready. [00:58:43] Speaker A: I'm ready for some dingy New York spawn. Like, I've been watching some. I got a bunch of, like, exploitation and sleaze movies from Vinegar Syndrome and Arrow Video on Black Friday. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:58:55] Speaker A: So I was watching one called Brain Damage. The same director as Basket Case and Frankenhooker. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Okay. [00:59:00] Speaker A: And he just makes these, like. They're filmed in New York in the 80s. So just all you have to do is walk around and it tells like a whole story. Just like by seeing the back. It's crazy. I'm like, man, people lived in that. It's crazy. Yeah, just like the trash and the rats and the grime. It's crazy. So spawn 77 should be pretty cool. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Hell yeah. I'm very excited. [00:59:21] Speaker A: But I'm also excited for king spawn 38. [00:59:23] Speaker B: Yes. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Pop it open. [00:59:25] Speaker B: We gotta pop it open. And we gotta give these credits where they're due, Johnny. And these credits include script plot being done by Todd McFarlane himself, art by Yielder Sennaar. It's groovy. [00:59:38] Speaker A: Oh, it's groovy art. I love the art in this. [00:59:40] Speaker B: I am. I am Pro Yielder Sonar. We need some more of that in here. Colors by Ivan Nunez, lettering by and world design cover the covers. Creative director is Todd McFarlane and our father is Thomas Healy. And then previously and King Spawn. Spawn has made his way up the ladder and has found those responsible for Granny Blake's kidnapping. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Yeah, he did. [01:00:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:08] Speaker A: And he was a monkey Gatling gun, lest we forget. [01:00:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they forgot. They should have. We should write that in. And did monkey Gatling gun beat up a whole bunch of dudes. [01:00:18] Speaker A: And so, yeah, when they left, they left with Tyrone. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:21] Speaker A: And we open on Tyrone. [01:00:23] Speaker B: Tyrone just like changed to the wall. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Change the wall. [01:00:28] Speaker B: Yeah. He's not looking too good, Johnny. He's bleeding out of his nose and his mouth all over his shirt. [01:00:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And basically the. The voiceover just says like, you know, after the. Been a couple months since the. Everyone lost their powers except for the vampires. And so you had to court favor with the vampires. So that's what he was trying to do. And that's how he ended up in this shitty situation. [01:00:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:53] Speaker A: Oh, or embarrassing situation. It says humiliate. Humiliating position. Humiliating position. [01:00:59] Speaker B: It's. [01:01:00] Speaker A: It says, well, and then we got our team. Swan loves assembling a team. [01:01:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. This is a great team. It's not Tinkerer. [01:01:11] Speaker A: And King Swan. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Not a real cohesive team. Because the Tinker literally refers to Cygor as that. [01:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that was funny. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Oh, boy. But yeah, Tyrone. Tyrone, even though he's a little worse for wear, is still. Still, you know, he's full of piss vinegar and he's. He's not afraid of this demon, Johnny. I'm surprised he doesn't spit blood in Spawn's face. That would have been a good touch. [01:01:40] Speaker A: Spawn just says, ditto. He's my favorite Pokemon. [01:01:47] Speaker B: He should have said, I am rubber, you are glue. Yeah, right. Back at you, poop head. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Tyrone's threatening him even though he's in no position to. Yeah, we know where all of your friends live. [01:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Spawn's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, hey, Tinkerer, I need you and. You and Cyborg to go. Actually, he addresses Cygor first. He says, cygor, I need you and Tinker to go. I need a few minutes alone. Yeah. [01:02:12] Speaker A: He dresses Cygor by name and just tells Tinker. We could tell who he's closer to. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I was surprised by that. I was like, he's just like. He's going to talk about him, like, while he's right there and not even refer to him by his first name. Come on, Al. Come on. That's where the Tinker is. Like, you already go with that. [01:02:32] Speaker A: Yes. [01:02:33] Speaker B: And then after they go, Spawn, like, Trump's back over to Tyrone and takes his mask off, and it's like, you know who I am, right? Well, you're dad. [01:02:42] Speaker A: What I really love about this issue is, like, it's a lot of people talking and, like, business guys. But Yildir Sinares faces are so good. [01:02:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, this. This Al Simmons with the stitches on his nose. Oh, boy. [01:02:54] Speaker A: Looking pissed good. [01:02:55] Speaker B: He is so angry. I would. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that look, Johnny. No, not at all. [01:03:05] Speaker A: And he's basically like, look, man, I was willing to face your dad, but he had to go after a blind old lady instead. [01:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And Tyrone's like, these chains. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Guess what? When you heard Granny Blake. [01:03:21] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, if you don't. If you don't give a. About your prisoners, why would I care about you, my prisoner? So it's a little bit of turnabout. It's fair play, Johnny. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Yep. Don't. With Randy Blake. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah, you don't. You don't mess. You don't mess with Granny Blake. And. Oh, man. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Cut to big boss room. [01:03:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, big boss man. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Big windows. [01:03:46] Speaker B: This is who. This is a very imposing big boss man. He's not. He's not behind a desk, which is. Is very weird. They're in the. They're in the. The smoking room. [01:03:57] Speaker A: Yeah. They're like the lounge room. [01:03:58] Speaker B: He's got. He's got his. His. His whiskey there. His cognac maybe, and he's just staring down his. His underlings who were there bringing him bad news. And he's like, what do you mean you can't find him? My son had nothing to do with this. What am I supposed to do? Just wait and do nothing. Get the classic Todd father question. [01:04:23] Speaker A: Yep. [01:04:24] Speaker B: And then they start talking about, you know, their connections with Blood and, you know, his. Like, Blood promised me my son would stay out of this. Simmons wasn't supposed to be here, so he's like, I need you to go get my son. Like, right now? [01:04:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. This is just like, More. There's so many people in boardrooms in King Spawn right now, and so many bad guys. [01:04:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:04:49] Speaker A: Like, I thought he got the guys who got Granny Blake. No, he just got the guys who were hired to get the guys. By the guys, to get Granny Blake. So we're still going after the guys. So many guys. [01:04:58] Speaker B: It's. Oh, boy. It's like a Mafia Eboros. [01:05:03] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:05:04] Speaker B: So. So this is. This is the guy. This is Hope. Maybe this is the guy who's most closely associated with Blood, but maybe there's another guy between him and Blood. I don't know. But anyway, he's. [01:05:16] Speaker A: But he's. When he gets done talking to his lackeys, some glowing eyes appear, and he says, do you get all that? [01:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And some vampires come out. They're like, we did. [01:05:26] Speaker A: They must have been stuck in that form, or. No, no, the vampires have powers. Cut that out. Yeah, I was thinking the angels with the wings out. [01:05:35] Speaker B: And they're just. You know, they're like. You know, Blood's got a. Blood's getting pretty suspicious anyways, so there's something going on. Something going on. So, like, this. This firm collaboration, this big boss man and Blood have, might not be as firm of a collaboration as big boss man thought. They send them out because he's like, I need Al Simmons. Bring me Al Simmons. And so we see later, there's a vampire stalking a guy in a cloak, a green cloak, in New York City in the alleys. Johnny. Can you imagine? [01:06:15] Speaker A: It's more of a hoodie. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, there's a hood on his face, and it's green. And I'm referencing current news topics. [01:06:22] Speaker A: Oh, God, yes. [01:06:25] Speaker B: And then the vampire. Ha. Jumps. Tackles him, tackles him. And it's Al Simmons. And, you know, Al Simmons is. He's just laying there. He's just letting. He's just letting this happen. Because as soon as. As soon as Al Simmons is tackled, Cygor comes up. [01:06:46] Speaker A: Cygor just pops out of a doorway. [01:06:48] Speaker B: Oh, man. That is a great. He's got his little superhero pose. Oh, shit. It's so good. [01:06:55] Speaker A: He intends to feast. [01:06:57] Speaker B: Mm. And this vampire is just, like, not happy about it. And then we Cut from that interaction to just a diner. Just a nice little diner with a nerdy dude talking about percentages and being an unscrupulous businessman. Unscrupulous. [01:07:17] Speaker A: Thoroughly unscrupulous. [01:07:19] Speaker B: Just yakking away. Just yak and yak and yak. And somebody slides into the booth across from him and he's like, can I help you? What's this? And this guy's trying to. So. So the guy who's yakking away talking about percentages is just like. Like, come on, dude, I've got. I got. I got shits to do. What the do you need? And the bearded guy who's across the table from him is like, hey, hey, hey, I got. I got stuff for you. [01:07:44] Speaker A: And he's like, look, okay, let me just get down to it. It's gonna be 60,000 a day for one of my clients, minimum. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And the guy's like, you with me? You're with me, right? He's like, hey, that's my right. You don't like it, get the out of here. I deal with big, not little shit. And this. The guy's like, why you little. And grabs him by his shirt collar. And then. And then the bodyguard comes over and is like, don't you ever touch the boss again. And lifts Beardo into the air. And boy Johnny, this is a big, beefy bodyguard. [01:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:21] Speaker B: His name is Henry. [01:08:22] Speaker A: His name is Henry. [01:08:24] Speaker B: You don't. You do not fuck with this little weasel of a man. [01:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So what could he possibly be doing that costs $60,000 a day? We find out because he's called into the office. A big boss man. [01:08:36] Speaker B: A big boss man. Yeah. They're having themselves a drink. And he negotiates contracts for hired killers. [01:08:47] Speaker A: Yep. [01:08:48] Speaker B: And so he's like, hey, I got you. I got you a person here. It's very good. And they're the best I have. And it'll only cost you $20,000 extra a day. That's a deal. [01:08:59] Speaker A: 80,000. Not bad. [01:09:01] Speaker B: Not bad. Not bad is. He's a. Is a high demand, though. So I'm going to need an answer before I leave or I'm going to give them to somebody else. So, you know, and after. After they sign it, they sign a contract. I can't believe I would have liked to have seen them actually signing the contract. [01:09:24] Speaker A: This sword man will go kill Albert Simmons and I will give you $80,000. [01:09:28] Speaker B: Would that be a. Do you think they would be able to. Legally binding in court, do you think? This doesn't seem like a profession that you Would bring ink and paper into. [01:09:41] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe. Contract killer. I don't know. [01:09:45] Speaker B: And then after this, maybe they put. [01:09:47] Speaker A: It on the dark web. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Ye olde Silk Road. After. After this, this Weasley negotiator leaves. They're talking about him. They're like, that guy. Fuck that guy. But he was useful. And then almost immediately, big boss man gets a phone call that Al Simmons is there. And he's like, bring him in. Get. Get him in here. And then, and then he asks all of his lackeys to leave them alone. He's like, we need a minute. And well, we get another. Another scene of negotiation. Johnny. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Yep. He's like, look, I got your son. Anything happens to me, you'll never see him. [01:10:30] Speaker B: I will leave him alone if you leave my family alone. And you owe me half your company. [01:10:37] Speaker A: And I went after company and this. [01:10:40] Speaker B: Guy says, I'll assume that's a joke. And Al Simmons says the most accurate thing I think he's ever said. I stopped joking years ago. [01:10:50] Speaker A: He did. [01:10:51] Speaker B: He's a humorless man, Mr. Al Simmons. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Yes, he is. And he says he wants the company because he needs insurance. The guy's like, I'm not going to do that. [01:11:00] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, I can. I just know where your family is. I could just fucking kill your whole family. And he's like, well, then your son dies too. No. Half your company. [01:11:08] Speaker A: He says, I'll hurt your. Your family. [01:11:14] Speaker B: You're. You are. Your family. [01:11:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It's a little typo action. [01:11:21] Speaker B: Little tippy ti tappy little typey tippo. It happens. [01:11:27] Speaker A: It does. It went away for a while. I feel like there's a lot in early when they expanded. Then they kind of stop. But evidently they're back, baby. [01:11:35] Speaker B: They. When they come back, they're back with a vengeance. [01:11:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:41] Speaker B: And so Al leaves. And he's walking home on the streets of New York City through the alleys. And somebody's watching him from above. It's a pigeon. No, it's not a pigeon. [01:11:53] Speaker A: It's exploding pigeon. [01:11:54] Speaker B: It is in fact, SWORD dude. [01:11:58] Speaker A: And he jumps the contract killer's computer. [01:12:01] Speaker B: He jumps. He jumps down from, I'm assuming the roof of the. The building. And he scares the. Out of a rat. And then he draws on Al Simmons. And then Al Simmons emerges from the shadowy alley that he just walked into, dressed in his full spawn regalia. It's like a. You looking for Tyrone? [01:12:25] Speaker A: But it looks like something's behind the cape. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Oh, it does indeed. [01:12:29] Speaker A: He's got like pointy. [01:12:30] Speaker B: It's a little Lumpy. He's a little lumpy. He needs to take it to get it pressed. He's got a little wrinkles in it. Spawns cape. [01:12:38] Speaker A: But no, he's hidden vampire wings before. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Exposing his hidden armaments. This is a great two page spread, Johnny. [01:12:47] Speaker A: It is. I'm just confused on how this works. Did he like sew them on himself real quick? I like. [01:12:53] Speaker B: I don't know. Because. [01:12:54] Speaker A: Because someone do with a tinkerer. I bet. [01:12:56] Speaker B: Probably because with gunslinger back when he had powers, he just like jammed him into his back. But human Al Simmons can't just jab some vampire wings into his back. That was. No, that would suck. He would be laid up for weeks. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah. When he says, when we're done, I'll show you the vampire I borrowed these wings from. And it's like, okay, well how are they working? [01:13:19] Speaker B: Or maybe, maybe he like sewed them on the inside of the cape. I don't know, like, attached to the suit instead. [01:13:27] Speaker A: I just. Yeah, maybe the suit. If you attach to the suit, it's. It's technically. [01:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:32] Speaker A: Still a symbiote. And alive. [01:13:35] Speaker B: Because we do know. We do know that it's. It's still alive. It's just hella weak because it's been cut off. [01:13:41] Speaker A: Right. So that if you attach the wings, maybe it would work as the symbiote. That makes sense. [01:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but. [01:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah, and then 8 seconds pass as they size each other up. Spawn allows them enough time to plan, then react, react. [01:13:55] Speaker B: And we end with Spawn coming up from the bottom and sword guy coming down from the top in there. Oh, man. [01:14:05] Speaker A: It's like that great scene in Lost series finale when Jack's running up the. When Jet. When John Locke's running up the hill and Jack's running down the hill and they're running at each other and he jumps up to punch him and it cuts the commercial. Great. Or. [01:14:17] Speaker B: Or isn't there a scene like that in Justice League with Superman and the Flash? [01:14:24] Speaker A: Yes. They punch each other. [01:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:26] Speaker A: Yes. Or something like that. I don't fucking know. [01:14:28] Speaker B: Fuck the Justice League, but not the Animated Series. Justice League. Animated Series fucking rocks. [01:14:35] Speaker A: Sure. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's good if you like cartoons and you like comics. It's good. It's a good show. [01:14:44] Speaker A: I got it. I read some dc. I don't know. I'm a Spawn guy. I only got time for Spawn now. [01:14:48] Speaker B: I mean, there's. There's so much. You. You really do need to just choose one and cruise with it. [01:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:14:56] Speaker B: And then we get the the crown. The skull crown in the issue. And then we get ourselves a little bit of a spawning ground, Johnny. [01:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a good one. [01:15:10] Speaker B: First up is Rob. Rob's showing a Spawn tattoo that he got. It's really good. It's based off of issue one. Right. It's got Spawn's face and his little. His little demon hand holding the little green glowing orb. It's very well rendered. [01:15:30] Speaker A: It's got the price and everything. [01:15:31] Speaker B: Huh. It would be great if he only had to pay 299 for that. Or 195. 199. [01:15:37] Speaker A: 195, baby. [01:15:39] Speaker B: Can you imagine what quality of a tattoo you could get for a dollar and 95 cents? [01:15:44] Speaker A: Just get one little prick. Yeah. So it's pretty cool tattoo. [01:15:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And Thomas Healy says. He says. I've said it before. I'll say it again. The world needs more Spawn tattoos. So. Yeah. [01:16:00] Speaker A: And the second letter is from Steve. [01:16:02] Speaker B: Steve. [01:16:03] Speaker A: And he's been a spawn. He's been a Spawn span spot. He's been a Spawn fan since he was 7 years old. [01:16:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Nice. Very work. And he's. He's. He's. He's a Canada boy, Johnny. [01:16:18] Speaker A: He's a Canadian. He's a tattoo artist. [01:16:21] Speaker B: And he recently met the Todd father at Calgary Comic Con and says that he left the show exhausted, but with renewed. Renewed creative vigor and wants to make his own comic book. And he's like, so Image Comics. Watch out. Here's a taste. I'll show a violator that I did. And Thomas Healy is like, hell, yeah. I look forward to seeing your book. And these are some great acrylic paintings of the violator, Johnny. [01:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:56] Speaker B: I like this one at the bottom. That is him transforming between Fleabiac and. And clown. It's so good. [01:17:06] Speaker A: That's pretty excellent, Steve. [01:17:09] Speaker B: Sklepic. Sklepic. Sklepic. [01:17:13] Speaker A: Yeah. No, they're both great. I love the colors. Kind of Mark Spears esque. [01:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Need more Sponsor universe, Johnny. [01:17:21] Speaker A: Always. [01:17:22] Speaker B: Well, there's no missing song going titles. We got the core four there. We have covered almost all of those. [01:17:29] Speaker A: Yep. [01:17:30] Speaker B: Nice. Excellent. [01:17:31] Speaker A: Nice. There's a ad for the Image Classics. It's like a word cloud with all their different titles. [01:17:37] Speaker B: With who is that radiant black shooting right up into the air and then. [01:17:42] Speaker A: And then we get a fucking new toy ad, baby. [01:17:44] Speaker B: Hell yeah, dude. [01:17:46] Speaker A: Lots to talk about with this. All right, get ready. Strap in. [01:17:49] Speaker B: All right, all right, all right, all. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Right, all right, all right. It's a new movie Maniacs ad. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Huh? [01:17:56] Speaker A: And We've got three of them. These are some maniacs, man. Let me tell you. [01:18:02] Speaker B: The maniast of X. [01:18:04] Speaker A: You got the Big Lebowski, you got the dude, the shaved 40 year old virgin. [01:18:09] Speaker B: Yep. [01:18:10] Speaker A: And what's his name? Wooderson from Dazed and Confused. [01:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Be a lot cooler if you did. [01:18:18] Speaker A: I mean, that shit's great. Yeah, it's hilarious. The movie Maniacs has become just random universal properties. [01:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, it's fine. [01:18:30] Speaker A: But why can't they do the universal monsters? They're probably belong to someone else. I know there's like really detailed universal monster figures. [01:18:37] Speaker B: There's. I'm sure. I'm sure that it's all. It's all business, it's all licensing and it's all wild. But I mean, if you think about it, Wooderson literally is like a 30 year old hanging around a high school looking at height school girls. [01:18:55] Speaker A: That's a horror movie right there. [01:18:56] Speaker B: He's. He's. He's. He's the one giving drugs to your children. [01:19:02] Speaker A: Good character. Good movie, though. [01:19:04] Speaker B: Oh, it's a great movie. [01:19:05] Speaker A: 40 year old virgin, also great movie. [01:19:07] Speaker B: I haven't seen it since the first time, since, like it first came out, but I remember enjoying the hell out of it. [01:19:13] Speaker A: I don't know how it's aged, but at the time it was like fairly like. It was like a sweetheart movie. Was sweethearted. [01:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:19] Speaker A: And Big Lebowski is a hoot. [01:19:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's classic. [01:19:24] Speaker A: Yeah. So there you go. Get your Movie Maniacs, put them right next to your Edward Scissorhands and Freddy and ash from the 90s and your. [01:19:33] Speaker B: Your Flash. What's his face dressed up as? The Flash. [01:19:37] Speaker A: Dress up as Flash. My favorite Movie Maniacs. I don't know if you know this, but in the original Movie Maniacs line, like series three or four, there was Todd McFarlane's Blair Witch. He did a design of the Blair Witch of what it would look like. [01:19:49] Speaker B: Holy fucking shit. I have not seen it. [01:19:51] Speaker A: Well, I'm going to send it to you right now so you can react to it. Hold on. All right, there's actually two because one of them was too controversial because it had, like, to sell in the stores. Because it had boobies. [01:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah, we're both grown men. We say boobies. [01:20:07] Speaker A: Let me see if I can find this. [01:20:08] Speaker B: Ah. Don't you remember being a youthful boy of like 12 years old? And the question of, is it good and does it have boobies in it, or are we the same thing? [01:20:21] Speaker A: Yes, the first one is the one I had the one that got released in the stores that I'm sending. [01:20:26] Speaker B: Holy shit. [01:20:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:29] Speaker B: Christ. [01:20:30] Speaker A: The second one is the one they pulled from stores because it's too. [01:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah, my mom definitely wouldn't let me had that. [01:20:37] Speaker A: Oh, she has, like, shriveled. Like, shriveled breasts. [01:20:40] Speaker B: As. As. As if it were in a Stephen King book, they'd say shriveled dogs. My shriveled dogs. [01:20:47] Speaker A: Yeah. But. [01:20:48] Speaker B: Jesus. [01:20:48] Speaker A: So those are the two different figures. [01:20:50] Speaker B: Those are both terrifying. Christ. [01:20:52] Speaker A: I had the tree. I had the tree one. Yeah. Todd McFarlane designed a Blair wish to like for movie maniacs. [01:20:59] Speaker B: Holy cow. Yeah. No, if those as scary as the. [01:21:04] Speaker A: Creature they show in the 2016 Blair Witch. [01:21:08] Speaker B: I don't remember seeing the. I need to watch that one again. I like that. I like. [01:21:12] Speaker A: There's a big creature. You don't remember the creature. [01:21:16] Speaker B: I only saw it once, Johnny, and I saw it years ago. [01:21:19] Speaker A: I like that movie a lot. [01:21:20] Speaker B: I like. I like it a lot, too. I remember. I remember like. Like, going into it being like, let's see. I don't know if it'll be. I. I think it might have been scarier than the first one. [01:21:30] Speaker A: Although the first, like, Blair Witch, the ride. [01:21:33] Speaker B: The first one hit me really hard the first time I watched it. Holy shit. Yeah, it's a good franchise. There's a reason. There's a reason that you like it so much, and that's because it's good, Jim. [01:21:43] Speaker A: I know. Blair Witch 2 is even good. I love Blair Witch, too. I think it's a maligned sequel. [01:21:48] Speaker B: It's really got the. It's got the van. Didn't they make a. Like a Hot Wheels van? [01:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah, they made a Hot Wheels van of it. [01:21:55] Speaker B: Oh, man. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Excellent stuff. [01:21:57] Speaker B: Excellent. Excellent. Well, Johnny, you know what else is excellent? This puppy. [01:22:02] Speaker A: Our friends on Instagram. Hey, puppy. David's holding up a puppy. [01:22:07] Speaker B: I'm holding up a little puppy. She says it's time to rate the puppies. [01:22:13] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies. So this week we had two issues to rate. First up was Misery number three of four. [01:22:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:28] Speaker A: And I don't know what to say about this. It was. I like the art. I like the grittiness. [01:22:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:36] Speaker A: But not a lot really happens in it. [01:22:41] Speaker B: Yeah, no, very little happens in it. Like. Like the previous issue. And this issue could be cut to be one issue. [01:22:50] Speaker A: Right. [01:22:52] Speaker B: So that way some more happens. [01:22:54] Speaker A: It's kind of her wandering around and, like, I liked. [01:22:59] Speaker B: I liked it more before I finished the. The fourth one in this miniseries because I thought that it was gonna build to something a little more than it did. Yeah, I would. I would like. I would have much preferred the Todd father to have just been like, fuck it. I don't care. What if people are gonna like it or not. I'm just gonna put this out as an actual series instead of his. I'm gonna put it out as a little thing and if there's good response, I'll make a bigger thing out of it. Just. Just go for the big thing. I would have much. [01:23:31] Speaker A: Well, like putting it out there, the whole subplot and like using the very delicate subject matter of like domestic abuse, then not solving that within the. Yeah, like not even addressing it really seems weird. [01:23:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Like that. That nasty DA needs a comeuppance and he needs nothing. Comeuppance at the end of the miniseries. [01:23:50] Speaker A: Right, Exactly. And like, it's just like. It's just nasty for nastiness sake. Like, like the cop being like, oh, you gotta sleep with me. And like trying to inject her with heroin. It's just like. Yeah, it's just nasty. And I don't know, like, I don't know. It just wasn't my favorite. It just, it just felt weird coming from the Todd father. I don't know. He said in the fourth one he wants to look for a female writer for it, which he should, definitely, should definitely doing. If he's going to be tackling these subject matters, he should not be. [01:24:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:22] Speaker A: You know what I mean? When there's plenty of female writers that could. [01:24:24] Speaker B: Yes. [01:24:26] Speaker A: Is how I feel about it. [01:24:27] Speaker B: I guess I just made me. [01:24:30] Speaker A: It just made me like kind of like uncomfortable. I don't know. Not uncomfortable, but it's just like. He's right. It should be a female writer writing this. I know he's like writing it for his daughter, like, you know, or something. Like her strength inspired him, but it's time to pass the baton, which he says he's going to do. But it also is just like, okay, well, you set up all these things you don't resolve and like just throwing the domestic violence in there without resolving it and like, just feels weird. [01:24:59] Speaker B: It's a half baked idea. [01:25:01] Speaker A: Half baked idea. [01:25:03] Speaker B: And it's. And it's a little bit more time in the oven. [01:25:06] Speaker A: But I do like the gritty art. [01:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Simon Kudransky is great. [01:25:10] Speaker A: I like the idea of this series. I like the. This huge two parade spread when she touches the guy. [01:25:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, those are always a delight. [01:25:17] Speaker A: I'm gonna give it two bloody bullet casings out of five. [01:25:21] Speaker B: Nice I agree with everything that you've said, Johnny. I think. I think I'm gonna go a little higher than you just because like, if it had different art, I don't think it would be as. As strong as it is. Because the art really. The art really saves its sort of half bakedness. I'm going to give it five and a half unhomed men on five and a half. No, not five and a half. Two and a half. Oh shit. Oh, my mouth went away on me that. I'm going to give it two and a half unhomed men on the bus. [01:25:59] Speaker A: Okay. [01:26:00] Speaker B: Oh man. Don't scare me like that, Johnny. I'm the one that said it. [01:26:06] Speaker A: You're the one that said it? [01:26:07] Speaker B: I'm the one that said it. [01:26:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. And we'll see how we review the fourth one. I remember a lot about it. I do remember. I mean I remember the ending but like it'll be interesting revisiting know where it's going. [01:26:16] Speaker B: And I. I remember being. [01:26:18] Speaker A: I'm kind of dreading away because I know it's just like nothing. [01:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:23] Speaker A: But there it is. [01:26:27] Speaker B: There it is. [01:26:27] Speaker A: On to King spawn. [01:26:28] Speaker B: Yes. [01:26:29] Speaker A: King Spawn 38. Also by Todd McFarlane. [01:26:31] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Also with kick ass art. So there's a theme. [01:26:36] Speaker A: Kick ass art. No, I mean just to say off the bat. Yeah. Yildir Senars art is amazing. It just has this great tacticality to it, I guess. And like the. It has like a. It's like crunchy. It's like weight to everything. [01:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah. It is also gritty, but in like a different. A different kind of gritty. [01:26:56] Speaker A: Right. [01:26:57] Speaker B: Like not as. Not as nasty gritty. It's a cleaner gritty. So this. [01:27:05] Speaker A: Faces are great. Like every character like is unique. [01:27:09] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [01:27:09] Speaker A: And like memorable. Really tells their story with their body and like how they're drawn. [01:27:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Very expressive. [01:27:17] Speaker A: Like from the, you know, assassin bookie to the boss Al Simmons himself to the tinkerer to the vampires to Cygor. He's all great, great people. Story wise it's Todd father, King Spawn coming around to a little bit. But like I said when we were talking about it, it's a little going in circles in the same figure 8 direction of like, oh, who's kidnapped Granny Blake. More boss guy. Another boardroom. [01:27:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:50] Speaker A: And then another new bad guy for Swan to fight, which will be next issue. Yeah, but so it's not my. Wasn't my favorite, but it was a fine like issue of King of Modern of what King Spawn has become. It's kind of par for the course. [01:28:04] Speaker B: So. [01:28:04] Speaker A: Yeah, as par for the course, I'm gonna give it 3 out of 5 glasses of cognac with the boss, because I imagine it's cognac. I don't know why. [01:28:14] Speaker B: I mean, it's either. It's either cognac or scotch, so whichever one's more expensive. When he bought it, probably. I. I agree. This is. This is very much like a Spawn as the original Mario, where each level is basically the same thing with different things substituted in for what they were. I mean, this is. This is at least the third round of. Of King Spawn finding the bad guy boss and working his way up to the bad guy boss and then about to beat up the bad guy boss. It's a little. It's caught in its spin cycle, Johnny. It's just the. So story wise, I'm. Man, I know, I know. We had a hard time getting into it when the Todd father brought it, like, took over. And then we. We kind of learned to appreciate what it is, and now I'm just getting kind of tired of its samey sameness. So story wise, I am very disappointed. I do like the slimy negotiator, though. That guy cracked me. [01:29:22] Speaker A: That guy's cool. [01:29:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he's hilarious. And his bodyguard Henry, because they're. They're like a mismatched pair. I would totally read a book about sleazeball murder for hire negotiator and his badass, Badass bodyguard Henry. It would be a good buddy cop story. But literally, the saving grace of it now is the art. It's great. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it really is. That's why I gave it 3. [01:29:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm gonna give it 2.75 scared rats in the alley, Johnny. Because it's just. That's. That's. It's a middle. It's a middle Middle. It's just in the middle. [01:30:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:08] Speaker B: Of all the middle. [01:30:08] Speaker A: That's why I was, like, at the beginning of the episode, I was like, yeah, we're reading some Spawn today. But yeah, they're both kind of. [01:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. [01:30:17] Speaker A: Maybe that's just a sign. Maybe the Todd father needs to write less items. [01:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:25] Speaker A: Write less books. [01:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah. So that way he doesn't have to tell the same story in every book. He could just write one story once and it'll be fine. I mean, it'll be fine if we only read it once. [01:30:37] Speaker A: So is he coming back to Spawn, like, full time at 260 or just for that issue? [01:30:42] Speaker B: I think. I have no idea. [01:30:46] Speaker A: Okay. [01:30:47] Speaker B: I Don't know. I'll. I mean, I hope it's just temporary because this Rory McConville stuff has been great, but Rory McConville has been on it for a couple of years now. So maybe his contract is up. [01:30:57] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe it's moving on to bigger, better things. Who knows? [01:31:00] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, that's. Those puppies rated, so they're rated. [01:31:07] Speaker A: Well, what we would rate higher the middle of the road is our friends on Instagram. [01:31:10] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:31:12] Speaker A: And each week, like the highlight one, and this one is just set up perfectly. Thomas Healey just. Just set up perfectly. The what do you set up perfectly for somebody? [01:31:22] Speaker B: He teed it up. He teed it up. He threw a fastball right down the middle. [01:31:28] Speaker A: Threw a fastball right down the middle for us. So we wanted to highlight Appragoblin Art, who's in the back of the spawning grounds in Kingspawn 38. [01:31:37] Speaker B: Absolutely. And Johnny, we should have been friends with this guy much sooner than kingspawn38, because he. It feels kind of like he rifled around in our brains and decided to make art of our favoriteist things. He's got. He's got Spawn. He's got fucking Reanimator. He's got Sam from Trick or Treat. He's got Ash Ashley Williams. He's got Nandor the Relentless. He's got the fucking Tree from Sleepy Hollow. He's got John Cava. [01:32:13] Speaker A: Papa. John Cava. [01:32:15] Speaker B: John Cava. Man, he's got no Sparazzi. [01:32:20] Speaker A: I was thinking about Thanksgiving the other day. [01:32:22] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, he's just. He's just killing it. He's got fucking Rasputin. He's got all the Hellboys. [01:32:30] Speaker A: He met Jonathan Frank Papa. He met Jonathan Frakes. [01:32:35] Speaker B: Fuck, I love Jonathan Frakes. [01:32:38] Speaker A: He's just got a really cool art style too. [01:32:40] Speaker B: Yeah, he does as. As he mentioned in the spawning grounds, he was a. He's a tattoo artist and is starting to do more on his. He's got a last Ronin. Fuck yeah. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. We should have been friends long ago. [01:32:57] Speaker A: Yeah. None of you guys are following him. [01:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:00] Speaker A: So make sure to follow him. I don't see any shared friends, so that means he's ripe for the following. [01:33:04] Speaker B: Mm. Man, it's so good. I could just. I could just. I gotta. I gotta put it down or else I'm just gonna to be talking about what he's. But yeah, it's. It's all of our tastes just right there and beautiful, beautiful, exquisite form. [01:33:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:33:22] Speaker B: Give him a follow. [01:33:23] Speaker A: Give him a follow while you're over there. Make sure to give us a follow. [01:33:26] Speaker B: We are. [01:33:26] Speaker A: Regarding Swan Pod. [01:33:28] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:33:30] Speaker A: And, you know, hit us up. [01:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:32] Speaker A: Comment message. [01:33:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:35] Speaker A: See what's going on. [01:33:36] Speaker B: Yeah. If. If any of y'all end up in the back of the spawning grounds, we will definitely do. Because that happened recently with Ty. Ty got a. Ty got his photo in the back and I was like, hey, I know herself. I know this guy. So we'll keep you. We'll keep you abreast of those going guns. [01:33:53] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:33:54] Speaker B: Also, who we would rate higher than Middle of the Road is Lonnie Bones. We would rate Lonnie bones probably a 666 out of five. Because he. I mean, he also shares our love of. Of these sort of spookiness hell things. [01:34:11] Speaker A: He's got. He's. He's been dressing up as terrifier on Instagram. [01:34:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:14] Speaker A: Going to conventions. [01:34:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. I. I need to start going to some of those horror conventions so I can actually run into him for the first time and meet him in real life. Be like, you. [01:34:23] Speaker A: Be terrified. [01:34:24] Speaker B: It's me, it's you. But yeah, Lonnie Bones. Lonnie Bones. Music. Just Google it. It's Lonnie with a Y, not an ie. Not the Canadian spelling. [01:34:35] Speaker A: Exactly. If you want to hit us up more in depth, you can always hit us up. Regarding spawnpodmail.com. [01:34:42] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:34:44] Speaker A: I'm just curious. My question this week is what do you guys think of the Todd McFarlane king spawn? Do you prefer the old Sean Lewis or do you like the Todd McFarlane? They're both pretty different, and it's just interesting what the title has become. [01:34:58] Speaker B: Mm. [01:35:00] Speaker A: But I'm just curious what people would think of that. Yeah. [01:35:04] Speaker B: So hit us up for my opinions. See 37 other issues. [01:35:09] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:35:13] Speaker B: Well, speaking of 37 other issues, Johnny, would you like to read 37 more issues for next week? [01:35:22] Speaker A: No. How about one, David? How about just one special issue? [01:35:25] Speaker B: Just one. Just one. Just one number three and not a number seven. [01:35:30] Speaker A: One number three. Exactly. And you always know when we're doing one issue, it probably means we have a guest and we do. Next week. We have. [01:35:39] Speaker B: Hey, y'all, it's your co host David Williams here. And I just had to break in to let you know that we got our recording schedules flipped around a little bit. And actually, what was supposed to come after this episode is not going to be what comes after this episode because the next episode is going to be our Christmas episode. So for next week, we are going to cover spawn number 39 with George and Pierce from Spawnography. It's a great time, It's a great issue, and we hope you come back and celebrate the holiday with us in the best way that all of us know how with Hela Spawn. So, yeah, next week, spawn 39, George and Pierce, get on it. We'll see you then. Well, Johnny, we need to make sure that everybody also says that we're great online, you know, sharing us everywhere, that they can share us, rating us everywhere, they can rate us, telling their friends and family about it. [01:36:46] Speaker A: Go to reviewing, subscribing. [01:36:48] Speaker B: Say, hey, you guys should listen to this podcast. Put it on the PA at work. Yeah, Please make everybody listen to it. If you're. If you're a long haul truck. If you have a long haul trucker friend, say, hey, do you need a lot of stuff to keep you occupied while you're out there on the road? Do I have a show for you to listen to? [01:37:06] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:37:07] Speaker B: We would be very much appreciative of it. And well, Johnny, I am very excited for all things Spawn, but I'm afraid that the excitement must come to an end for today. And I must bid you. May the Scorch be with you. [01:37:27] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:37:29] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:37:30] Speaker A: Hell yeah, man. [01:37:33] Speaker B: I just keep looking at these fucking Blair Witches things and if. [01:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. I can't believe I. I think I sold that action figure. You had it, you piece of. [01:37:42] Speaker B: Johnny, I was fired most of my podcast. [01:37:45] Speaker A: When I moved up from Chicago, I sold all my action figures. I had like a whole bunch of my childhood home. I had like Star Wars, McFarlane, a whole bunch of. And I sold them all. [01:37:54] Speaker B: That's. It's probably for the best. [01:37:56] Speaker A: If you go to vintage stock in Tulsa, Oklahoma, they still might have some of my action figures. [01:38:00] Speaker B: Hey, maybe you should. Maybe you should check to see if they still have your Blair Witch action figures. [01:38:03] Speaker A: I can buy it back. [01:38:05] Speaker B: Fuck. What? [01:38:06] Speaker A: I need to wonder how much it goes for on ebay. Let's see. [01:38:09] Speaker B: I don't know. $666. [01:38:12] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Can you imagine? [01:38:15] Speaker B: Unfortunately, yeah, I can. [01:38:18] Speaker A: Hopefully not that much. Hold on. Let me see. Blair Witch Movie Maniac. Oh, don't worry, it's only a hundred dollars. [01:38:33] Speaker B: A hundred doll hairs, you say I can buy some of those? [01:38:38] Speaker A: You get a loose one for pretty cheap. But the package one's gonna cost you. I mean, are you only 20? Okay, well, you can get it for like. [01:38:45] Speaker B: I mean, are you really gonna get a packaged one? I. I think you're much more of A loose man, Johnny. You're much more of a loose man in my eyes. [01:38:52] Speaker A: As long as it has all the parts. I want all the parts. Yeah, because she comes with a little basket with, like, the teeth and stuff in it. [01:38:58] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. [01:39:00] Speaker A: It's a little basket that they open on their doorstep that has, like, the tongue and the eyeball. [01:39:03] Speaker B: I'm fucking. I'm fucking watching all three of these movies again this weekend. I gotta do it. Oh, shit. I need the shit scared out of me something fierce. [01:39:12] Speaker A: Johnny, Blair Witch is really fun. You've never seen it? [01:39:15] Speaker B: I don't think I've seen Blair Witch too. [01:39:17] Speaker A: Okay. [01:39:18] Speaker B: I think. I think it was actually because I knew about them for a long time and I was like, I want to watch the second one. So I got to watch the first one. First? Yeah. [01:39:27] Speaker A: The second was really interesting. I don't know. It's an interesting deconstruction of why we like Blair Witch, which maybe is not what they needed for Blair Witch 2, but maybe it should have been like Blair Witch 4 or 5. [01:39:36] Speaker B: It was kind of. It was very much like, what, Scream 6? Is that the one with Jenna Ortega where they're talking about. [01:39:44] Speaker A: Yes, it was very much like that. [01:39:46] Speaker B: It was very much like that. Only in, like, 1998. Nine. [01:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was like a year after the other one came out, so it was just like, too soon. You needed, like, three or four movies before you could, like, really skewer it like that. But Joe Berglader just went for it. [01:39:58] Speaker B: So. Yeah, I mean, they're. They're running that concept into the ground with the screams now. So, yeah. Yeah, they should maybe just quit it. Quit it out, Blair Witch. I'm scared to close my eyes Scared to open them. [01:41:01] Speaker A: Warning. This video contains adult content not suitable for children.