Episode 142 - Violator: Origins 2

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Row like the devil himself is at your heels. Because holy men, he is indeed. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Foreign. [00:00:38] Speaker A: And welcome to the Malibu. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:47] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. I almost said. David Souza. [00:00:52] Speaker A: David Souza. I almost said. Welcome to the. Good evening and welcome the novels to the tune of John Philip Sousa. Good evening and welcome to the Malibu to the Malibols. We have Sousa on our lips because we're recording on the 4th of July and we. [00:01:11] Speaker B: We just finished marching in a. In a parade. [00:01:15] Speaker A: Yes, David and I marched. They had us as Spawn podcasters at the Chicago Pride Parade. They had us come down. [00:01:21] Speaker B: They. They made. They made specific Spawn shaped sousaphones for us. [00:01:27] Speaker A: Yes. [00:01:28] Speaker B: So it looked like we were wrapped in chains and a cape. Sounded great. Sounded terrible. [00:01:33] Speaker A: They gave us the key to the city. [00:01:35] Speaker B: It was one. [00:01:35] Speaker A: Gave us the key to the city. [00:01:36] Speaker B: The key to Rat. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Yeah, the key to Rat City. [00:01:39] Speaker B: It's a bone in the shape of a key. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Yes, it is indeed. The fourth of July. Independence Day. [00:01:46] Speaker B: Yes. We got it. We got to get this done quick before the fireworks start going on. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we're on like a race against time. Because Chicago loves its fireworks. [00:01:53] Speaker B: Yes, it does. It does. Yes, it does. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Even though it's 9 o' clock in the morning, they're going to start shooting them off pretty soon, so we got to record fast. And we're recording two episodes today. [00:02:01] Speaker B: A little. A little behind the scenes. [00:02:03] Speaker A: A little behind the scenes. [00:02:03] Speaker B: A little bts, everybody. Every time somebody says BTS now to mean behind the scenes, I totally think they just mean the K pop group bts. And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. [00:02:13] Speaker A: I was like, what? Bts? [00:02:15] Speaker B: What? I thought they were. I thought they. I thought they were still in the military. They apparently like three or four of them just finished their military service, so they're back, baby. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Thank God. [00:02:26] Speaker B: We need. We need that. We need that in our lives. [00:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Fucking. It's. The whole entire, like industry around K Pop is unfathomably large. Like, instead of just like putting out a Casingal, they've got like a Casingal that has exclusive merch that you can only buy if you've bought the Casingal. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they have like a whole section of K pop stuff at Barnes and Noble now. And it's like the box sets are crazy. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's wild. There's actually like a K Pop store in the South Loop now and. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:02:59] Speaker B: I went in there once and I Was like, I have no idea what is happening. Yeah, it's, it's, it's incredible. It's. I don't, wouldn't even know where to start trying to enter a new genre, but. Oh, it's awesome. I'm glad. It's. I know that they talked about, oh, what, what was it a Star wars show that they have? Lisa. There's a, there's a K pop artist who was part of a group and her name is Lisa and she probably most famous for Americans did the original Demon Hunter intro song for that anime. But she was, she was a guest on some, some American television show and just Americans don't know about K pop so much. They were like, oh yeah, Lisa, this will be fine. Somebody will know about her. But like she was the one that they had to hire extra security for because people kept trying to be like, Lisa. Yeah, yeah, insane. [00:04:04] Speaker A: The Tommy Wiseau impressions. Lisa. [00:04:11] Speaker B: I actually still haven't seen Tommy Wiser's room. [00:04:13] Speaker A: I probably should I watch it at. [00:04:16] Speaker B: This, at this point I'm a little afraid to watch it. [00:04:19] Speaker A: There's plenty of other bad movies that are better, but it's bad, it's fun. I don't know. He's a ridiculous person. [00:04:26] Speaker B: He is. He is indeed. But he does have that, he does have that gumption. So. [00:04:30] Speaker A: No, I mean respect. I respect him. You know, he did it, man. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he's still, he's still trying to do it. Isn't he still like, like crowdfunding projects and getting them produced? [00:04:41] Speaker A: I'm sure, I'm sure that's a him. And Neil Breen. [00:04:45] Speaker B: Breen. Does Neil Breen have to, to have a suit that keeps him cold so that way he doesn't die? [00:04:55] Speaker A: Why would he have that? [00:04:56] Speaker B: Well, the Breen are a Star Trek alien that. [00:04:59] Speaker A: Oh, that. [00:05:01] Speaker B: Basically they wear the suit that Princess Leia wears when she sneaks into Jabba the Hutt's palace. [00:05:06] Speaker A: And okay, that's, that's. She's disguised as a bounty hunter named Bouche. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Okay, well that exact you out like armor outfit is what the Breen wear, but they, they call it their cool suits and it keeps them because their bodies have to be like minus 180 degrees Celsius or something like that because they come from an ice planet? [00:05:29] Speaker A: No, Neil Breen is a man much like Tommy Wiseau that self produces awful movies. And I've watched a couple of them and they're bad. Neil Breen, look him up. [00:05:38] Speaker B: Okay, awesome. See, is he, is he the modern day Lloyd Kaufman? [00:05:45] Speaker A: I mean, Lloyd Kaufman at least was doing genre. This guy's just doing, like, fucking terrible. Like, domestic movies. I don't even know what they're about. They're awful. I mean, you know, Lloyd Kaufman. I like Lloyd Kaufman. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Lloyd Kaufman is fun. He doesn't care if the movie is good. He just. He's like, we're getting this project made. [00:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah. You market it and you sell it. [00:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Slap on a plastic lunchbox and you're selling it. [00:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's what you need. That's the. There are so many people that promise so much and just don't deliver. And Lloyd Kaufman is. He's like, he's batting a thousand. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Speaking of Lloyd Coffin, can I reach it? Hold on. All right, let me see if I can reach this. Got my new fangori in the mail yesterday, and it is Toxic Avenger, the new cover. [00:06:33] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. I'm. I'm excited for that. I haven't watched the trailer yet because I don't know if I want to watch the trailer. [00:06:38] Speaker A: I haven't. I kind of stopped watching trailers, David. [00:06:43] Speaker B: You know, I, I, I agree. I, I don't. The trailer. [00:06:47] Speaker A: I'm gonna see it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna watch it. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:50] Speaker A: So, like. And so many trailers ruin so much these days. Like, I'm not gonna close my eyes in my ears. I'm at the theater. I'll watch them there, but I'm not gonna, like, watch it on my phone. [00:06:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:00] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:07:00] Speaker B: I think the last trailer I actually sought out to watch was the Superman trailer, and that was. That was fun. But that's just. [00:07:08] Speaker A: I saw the second trailer for that. It's really good. [00:07:10] Speaker B: I just fucking love Superman. We need to go see Superman when it comes out. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Dude, you're gonna love it. [00:07:15] Speaker B: Oh, I know. I love. I love fucking James Gunn. I love Superman. I love Crypto. I love you. [00:07:23] Speaker A: It'll make you cry. [00:07:24] Speaker B: I love the kid who's playing Jimmy Olsen. I love Jimmy Olsen. [00:07:30] Speaker A: Hey, Lois Lane. Sassy brunette, looking hot. [00:07:37] Speaker B: Oh, man, I wonder who they got to play Perry White. Have they showed pictures of Perry White yet? [00:07:42] Speaker A: Oh, I don't know. I don't remember. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Because Perry White was J. Jonah Jameson before J. Jonah Jameson existed. [00:07:49] Speaker A: So he's the original J. Jonah Jameson. [00:07:51] Speaker B: The original Laurence Fishburn played him in, in the. Brandon Ruth. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he. I don't remember who was in Brandon Ruth. Laurence Fishburn was in Zack Snyder. Superman stuff, I think. [00:08:08] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion, but The Brandon Ruth Superman is very. [00:08:13] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah. It's Wendell Pierce, the guy from the Wire. [00:08:17] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:08:19] Speaker A: I love him. Shit. Gotcha. He's gonna be awesome. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Oh, man, I'm super pumped for this movie. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Superman looks good. It looks fucking packed. Yeah, looks like a packed movie. [00:08:38] Speaker B: That's. That's kind of the way James Gunn does it, though. It almost. It almost shouldn't work. Speaking of movies that have too much stuff going in them or almost too much stuff. [00:08:46] Speaker A: And speaking of movies made by Lloyd Kaufman. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Oh, that's how Zach's not Zach. Fucking James Gunn got his start. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Nice. Did. Did Lloyd produce? Super. [00:08:59] Speaker A: I think so. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:09:01] Speaker A: James Gunn wrote Tromio and Juliet and a couple other ones. [00:09:06] Speaker B: Oh, man, I miss when all the Troma films were just on Netflix. And you could. Oh, Pluto. TV needs a trauma Troma channel. [00:09:14] Speaker A: That'd be awesome. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Because then you could probably finally watch Sergeant Kabuki Man. [00:09:22] Speaker A: Sergeant Kabuki Man? [00:09:26] Speaker B: Yeah. It's about an NYPD sergeant who shows up. A martial artist was slain by a rival martial artist. And the one who was slain was host to the Kabuki man spirit who has, throughout time, protected the people. And Green Lantern style. He's the person there when his. The. The Kabuki Man's host dies. And so it just like goes into him. And so every time he's called to an altercation because he's on the nypd, like, he. He transforms into Kabuki Man. [00:10:05] Speaker A: What? [00:10:05] Speaker B: And. And. [00:10:08] Speaker A: And sounds crazy. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Fights crime with his dramatic arts. [00:10:15] Speaker A: What the hell? That's crazy. [00:10:20] Speaker B: It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. And I have seen that Godzilla where he flies feet first. [00:10:29] Speaker A: That's a good one. I saw a video that set to Defying Gravity that was pretty funny. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Is he fighting Ronin Me? [00:10:38] Speaker A: I think so, yeah. So if you care to find me, look to the western sky. So somebody told me everyone deserves a chance to fly. I didn't watch the Wicked for Good trailer. I didn't watch it. [00:11:00] Speaker B: I mean. I mean, you're gonna go see it, so it doesn't really matter. [00:11:04] Speaker A: I'm gonna go see it. [00:11:05] Speaker B: I know that one trailer I would watch. What's that? [00:11:10] Speaker A: King Spawn? [00:11:11] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. That needs to. [00:11:13] Speaker A: They came out of the King spot. I don't know, man. Blue House is. Is. I just saw article They've been. I. I don't think it's happening, dude. I swear to God. Oh, no. I think it's Megan 2 is gonna kill it because the Megan 2 bombed. [00:11:25] Speaker B: Boo. [00:11:25] Speaker A: And they spent a lot of money on it. Really counting on it. I saw article, he was like, I don't know. [00:11:30] Speaker B: I think. I think specifically, I think a lot of people aren't gonna go see Megan 2 in the theaters because they know if they wait for the streaming, it's gonna be the R rated version and not the PG13 rated version. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Right. That's like. I don't know. Sometimes you can't recreate that, like, lightning strike of, like, pop culture where it was like, that was really popular at the time, but, like, you can't recreate it. Yeah, but I don't know. She better dance in this one. That's all I'm saying. She better dance. [00:11:59] Speaker B: I mean, I read the synopsis, and it's a little topical. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Okay. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Because it's like she's. She's like an automated defense. Defense force for. In a Middle Eastern war zone. So that way you don't have to sacrifice human lives for your. [00:12:19] Speaker A: That's what you use Megan for. [00:12:20] Speaker B: That's. Apparently. That's the basis of making 2.0 is she is a war machine. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Okay, I didn't know. [00:12:28] Speaker B: I just read the. I just. I skimmed the review in the reader this week. [00:12:32] Speaker A: It's Bloom House. You better make that King Spawn. I'm sorry that Megan 2 didn't make as much money as you thought, but we don't care. Yeah, we want our King Spawn. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah. And we want it now. [00:12:42] Speaker A: We want it spawn and we want it now. I don't think it's ever gonna happen. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Saying it makes it feel like it's true, though. We need to live in eternal optimism, though, Johnny. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:12:59] Speaker B: I mean, they. They somehow pulled it out in 1997, and they were talking about talking to ILM as early as, like, 1993. 3. In the. In those letter pages, so. Although. Wait it out, I guess. I guess Todd has been talking about this since, like 19 or 2021, so. [00:13:18] Speaker A: A little earlier than that, too. Well, that was the other version. Like one that's gonna be more. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think, like, December 21st was when they hired the. The Winter Soldier writers to finish the draft. Yeah, it's gonna. It's gonna be one of those. We got to get it leaked so it could have a Deadpool. So everybody reads the script and is like, this needs to be a movie, and then they finally make the movie off of it. Yeah, yeah, that's what we need. But in the movie. [00:13:45] Speaker A: Let me write the script. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Instead of a movie, what do we have? [00:13:50] Speaker A: We have a comic book yeah, because we are respawn regarding Spawn. For each week, we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. Except when we don't. And David, we don't have two issues this week. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Oh, no. Well, it's because we blew. We blew one of them up on accident. [00:14:05] Speaker A: We blew one of them up. Megan 2.0 ate the other issue. [00:14:09] Speaker B: So one of my neighbors. Fireworks caught fire on my book. [00:14:13] Speaker A: No, it's because we got an extra big book today. We got a big beefy boy. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Speaking of Sousa, if this. If this were in marching band, it would play the sousaphone. That makes sense to people who know marching band. I promise. [00:14:25] Speaker A: This and the this that David's referring to is violator number two. Violator origins. Number two. Technically, from 2024, all the way back from October 2024. [00:14:38] Speaker B: It may be number two, but it is second to none. Johnny. [00:14:41] Speaker A: It's hilarious. [00:14:43] Speaker B: It's. [00:14:44] Speaker A: It's ridiculous. I loved it, but it was just. It was so funny. It's just like this crazy. It's just like this crazy Viking, like, story. [00:14:54] Speaker B: It's. [00:14:54] Speaker A: And like. It's just so much gore and like death and just like. It's crazy. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's. It's a good time. Making it even funnier. When I reread this for our recording, I was actually in the middle of a acid trip. Yes, an acid trip. I was. I was throwing a. No, no. On acid. But no, I was reading a book about a 12th century monk who solves crimes around the abbey. And then as soon I see the monks in this, I'm like, monks? [00:15:29] Speaker A: Monks? [00:15:30] Speaker B: These monks are a little less fun than Detective Monk from the abbey. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Do you mean Detective Monk as in Monk? [00:15:41] Speaker B: No, I mean detective Monk as in. Not monk. But as I said it, I realized a monk. Yeah, there is a Detective Monk. Detective Monk. [00:15:50] Speaker A: I don't know if we're talking about the USA show or a monk. [00:15:53] Speaker B: Well, both. Yes, Detective Monk, the USA show. He would not do. He would not do well in this. In this book, Johnny. [00:16:00] Speaker A: Yeah, he'd get ripped to pieces. He'd be all. He'd be all squigged out by the blood. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Yeah, the blood and the dirt and the. The. Probably the smells. Cuz none of these guys smell very good. You. You got a bet. [00:16:12] Speaker A: No, not even the. Not even the monks. They probably smell the worst. [00:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. Although I don't know. I don't know. That Viking spawn, he does have all that fur. That fur can't. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Oh, he's got to be disgusting. He's Got to be. So Smell like death. I mean, any spawn has got to smell like death. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's just like all those. All those sweaty Vikings just smushed together on there. We should probably get into it, Johnny, instead of beating around the bush. [00:16:35] Speaker A: I mean, we only took 20 minutes to get here, so if it's your first episode, I'm sorry, we do this. [00:16:44] Speaker B: Oh, so since we mentioned that, you know, famously, Jim Shooter is the one that said every comic book is somebody's first comic book RIP. Jim Shooter, who died this week, former Marvel comic book editor. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Oh, he did? Okay. Yeah, he said that. [00:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that was. That was his thing, is every comic book is somebody's first comic book. So you gotta. That's the mandate. [00:17:06] Speaker A: Let him know what's up. [00:17:07] Speaker B: Is every respawn is somebody's first respawn. [00:17:11] Speaker A: Hopefully. [00:17:12] Speaker B: Hopefully. Yeah. I don't know which one I would recommend to be the first. Probably, actually. Probably the Thomas Healy Violator number one episode. Yeah, I think that's my favorite to bust out to people, be like, just listen to this. It's fun. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Megan's listen to the Old ones. And she just listened to our Logan first Logan episode and said it was hilarious. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Oh, nice, nice. Did you. Did you illuminate her on the. The ease of editing when Logan is on? [00:17:42] Speaker A: Yes. And I told her about how we almost killed each other in the closet because we were recording in a closet. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. [00:17:48] Speaker A: We almost ran out of air. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Because. Yeah, we recorded that in the summer, didn't we? Oh, boy. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it was me and Logan in a closet because we didn't. He didn't have a microphone yet. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Man, we're beating around the bush again, Johnny. [00:18:03] Speaker A: All right, let's talk about it. Violator number two. We always start with the covers. Yes, I have the A cover. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Which is by Kyle Hots. And it is Hotsy Totsy Baby. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Nice. [00:18:18] Speaker A: It's. You know, my mom used to sing. I guess she said it was like some World War II song. She used to go, Hotsy Tati, there goes another Nazi or something like that. [00:18:27] Speaker B: I was. I was thinking of the producers, because every Hotsy Tatsi Nazi give it Nazi San. [00:18:31] Speaker A: And maybe she's just up that. But she thought that, like, she was like, there's some song about killing Nazis. I would said Hotsy Tati. [00:18:39] Speaker B: I would be surprised if Mel Brooks wasn't just referring to that song. Yeah, he wrote it because Mel Brooks was. Was there. That man is 99 years old. He was there. [00:18:51] Speaker A: He was there. He knows every Hotsy Tsi Nazi standing cheer, though. We're not saying hooray to Nazis. We're saying hooray to Mel Brooks. The producers is great. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Yes. [00:19:04] Speaker A: So Kyle Hotz. And it is. Who does the issue as well. [00:19:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's awesome. Johnny, we just talked about this in the last episode that came out, but it's the classic pile of bodies on this cover. [00:19:20] Speaker A: Big pile of monks, dead monks. With, like. Some of them are rotted away. Some of them are skeletons. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah. That they got, like. Some of them have their robes, but they've got, like. There's, like, tree roots growing around them. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Yeah, man. And it's one of the rare issues where the COVID matches the issue pretty well. [00:19:45] Speaker B: Almost. Almost exactly. [00:19:46] Speaker A: I mean, it's exactly it. Yeah, he's got Viking Spawn. [00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:51] Speaker A: With his ax and his big old sword. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:54] Speaker A: And you got Violator in the background. [00:19:56] Speaker B: And he's got, like. He's got Viking Spawn. Has, like, one of his. One of his horns on his helmet is. Is chopped off a little bit. And he's just got, like, a plume of necroplasm shooting out of it. That's a great detail. I like it. And yeah, Violator in the back there. [00:20:15] Speaker A: Got some bats and bats factor into the issue as well. [00:20:18] Speaker B: There's a nice big moon in the background there. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Just one moon. [00:20:22] Speaker B: We like the moon. Cause it is close to us. It's a great cover. [00:20:30] Speaker A: This is the Quiznos, guys. [00:20:31] Speaker B: Well, it's the. The original video that the Quiznos commercial was based off of. [00:20:37] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:37] Speaker B: They were called the Space Monkeys. Space Monkeys? Yeah, space monkeys. And instead of singing about Quiznos psalms, they sang about the moon. [00:20:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:48] Speaker A: Mmm. Toasty. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Literally every day I worked at Quiznos for two years in college, every day, somebody came in and said, I hate that commercial. And at this point, that commercial had not been on the air for three or four years, but people were still like, I fucking hated that commercial. And it's like, what are you talking? I'm just putting the sandwiches together. I don't make the commercials, dude. [00:21:13] Speaker A: I don't make the commercial. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Come on. [00:21:14] Speaker A: Damn it. [00:21:14] Speaker B: It's like working at the movie theater. Everybody would complain about the price of popcorn to me. And it's like I. I just filled bags, dude. [00:21:21] Speaker A: I'm seeing none of this, y'. [00:21:22] Speaker B: All. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I get none of this. [00:21:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Speaking of what we got, Johnny, I got cover B. The Geldhof cover. Let's see what that first name is. J. Geldhoff. And it is. It is very in the style of Spawn adventures. So it's very cartoon. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Yes. [00:21:40] Speaker B: And it's. It's two sides. One side has Violator, one side has Viking Spawn, and it's very two face. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it's cool. I like the stylized aspect of it. [00:21:53] Speaker B: And it's got a different sort of color palette for each set. Well, not the color palette is largely the same, but the violator side has a lot more neon pinks, and the Viking Spawn side has good old necroplasmic green. Yeah, it's dope cover. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Yeah. They're both awesome. And they both, like, relate to issue well. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I love when they put out the super cartoony covers. I love them. [00:22:20] Speaker A: It's fun to switch it up. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:23] Speaker A: You can't all be gloom and doom. [00:22:24] Speaker B: No, never. Because you get. You gotta. You gotta have that spice. You gotta have that. You gotta have a little cheerful. Just like. Just like. You can't be too cheerful all the time. You got to have a little bit of. A little bit of sad. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Like, papa says, life is the roller coaster. Sometimes you are happy and sometimes you are sad. But you haven't seen the ghost concert movie. [00:22:51] Speaker B: I told you. I told you. The dangers of what was gonna happen was sharing the code with me. I was gonna forget until the day after it expired. Yeah, that's basically what's gonna happen. I don't. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Do you, like, sit down. You're like, ah, finally. Time to watch the ghost concert film. And then it's like, this expired yesterday. [00:23:12] Speaker B: They should put ghost on the Pluto TV ghost channel. They got it. They got enough. They got enough YouTube matter. They could just do. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Do the whole chapters with music videos in between. [00:23:26] Speaker B: They got music channels. They could do it. [00:23:29] Speaker A: I've watched the Vevo 80s channel before. Watch some 80s music videos. Pretty cool. [00:23:36] Speaker B: Yeah. 80s music videos rock. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Well, let's crack it open. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Let's crack it like the Kraken. [00:23:42] Speaker A: We've got script plot. We've got the credits. First of all, I gotta say, I gotta mention what I'm reading. These are the credits. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Violator script plot by Mark Andreiko. Art by Kyle Hotz, color by Dan Brown, the author of the Da Vinci Code. [00:24:00] Speaker B: I felt like there was some sort of Catholic. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Yeah, Catholic secret monster in this issue. Okay. Old Dan Brown. Huh? [00:24:09] Speaker B: Why did I say it Catholic instead of Catholic? [00:24:12] Speaker A: I have no idea. You're a Catholic. It's so funny. My buddy Steve used to work at open books, and they get a lot of donations, you know, because they're a nonprofit bookstore. And he was. I was like, Talking to him about it. He's like, you know what's funny? He's like, everyone just reads the same shit. He's like, everyone's got a copy of the Da Vinci Code. Everyone's got a copy of this. He's like, honestly, like, it's really crazy how much similar the donations they get are, I believe. Shit. [00:24:43] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you also have the. The. The step of. Those are the books that people don't want to keep. [00:24:49] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:50] Speaker B: They've bought them and read them and are like, I don't need to keep this. So. But yeah, it's. It's always interesting to be on the train or on the bus and seeing people read. And, like, everybody's reading the same thing at whatever time it is. It's like everybody's reading the same book. [00:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I like books. [00:25:11] Speaker B: And then you got. Then you got me with my son once a year. I like to read a thick, dense book and take way longer than I should to read it. So it's like six months on one book. And so everybody's on there with their. Their popular book. And then I bust out this thing that looks like a doorstop, and I'm just like. I get two pages into it before my train stop, and then I gotta shove it back in the bag. [00:25:37] Speaker A: Shove it back in the bag. [00:25:39] Speaker B: I love. I love a dense boy. Johnny. [00:25:42] Speaker A: I'm reading Phantom of the Opera right now. [00:25:45] Speaker B: How hard is it to read that and not just, like, sing the music the entire time? [00:25:51] Speaker A: Very hard. [00:25:52] Speaker B: Because. Because I read out of the Silent Planet after I had already listened to the Iron maiden song, like, 400 times and just, like, couldn't pay attention to the book because I was like, out of the Silent Planet over and over and over again. [00:26:10] Speaker A: It's hard, I think, of the musical. The book's pretty different. But, you know, honestly. Excuse me. I just hit the weed panel. It's Friday, July 4th. We're off work. [00:26:24] Speaker B: Speaking of fireworks. [00:26:25] Speaker A: Speaking of fireworks. It's different, but the. I feel like the stage adaptation is probably one of the best. It gets the heart of it, and it is the closest to the book, but the book's just its own thing. It's a lot more like swashbuckling at the end. It's a lot more like adventure with Raul. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah, because you said it was. It was basically started as a pulp novel, right? [00:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Was it? Did they publish it serially and like. [00:26:54] Speaker A: A. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember. I think maybe they did, but I don't remember. It Might have just been a novel. [00:27:01] Speaker B: But like, I like some swashbuckling. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Well, it's just like he gets the. Once they go down in the opera house into the basement, it's just like a adventure tale. Them trying to outwit the Phantom. [00:27:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like a. It's like a. Like a 19th century escape room. [00:27:17] Speaker A: No, there is. There are escape rooms. He literally locks them in a room of mirrors that makes them hallucinate. Turns up the heat on him. He like does crazy shit. [00:27:27] Speaker B: Damn. [00:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it is like a 19th century escape room for the last like half third of the book. [00:27:31] Speaker B: That's awesome. It's awesome. Is there. Is there an oubliette? [00:27:36] Speaker A: I don't know what that means. [00:27:37] Speaker B: An oubliette is basically just a deep hole that it's basically impossible to get out of. They used to be used. It's basically was designed by the French to be prisons so they would just throw people in the oubliette. Or if you've watched Labyrinth, it's. It's a hole that Sarah falls down. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Oh, yes. I don't think there's any oubliettes in it. [00:28:02] Speaker B: I don't. [00:28:02] Speaker A: Haven't finished it. This read through and I haven't read it in probably like 20 years. But longer than 20 years, if the. [00:28:09] Speaker B: Word oubliette comes up, you should send me a text message. Be like, it's there, it's there. Speaking of there, those words there were put by Antworld Design. Johnny. [00:28:21] Speaker A: Oh my God. I got. I was. I was reading. I got Dan Brown distracted. Lettering by M. World Design cover artists. We already covered the covers. Creative directors Tom McFarland and editor in chief is Thomas Healy. [00:28:34] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:28:36] Speaker A: We've got quite a. Previously on Here. [00:28:37] Speaker B: I kind of assumed that's why you were stalling, so that way you didn't have to read this big chunk of previous. [00:28:43] Speaker A: No, it's good. [00:28:44] Speaker B: It's a great. It's a great one, though. [00:28:47] Speaker A: It is previously in Violator. The Violator, formerly known as Basil, after realizing the unchecked hypocrisy of the Almighty, gathers together and inspires a mighty army. He then leads his men into a rebellion against the divine Creator and fights for their freedom from enslavement. After a stunning victory against the Lord's heavenly forces, he ventures out to find a new plane of existence in which to settle in and lead his people to prosperity. Yeah, that's how it happened. I love that. [00:29:18] Speaker B: It's. It's very much like the Violator recounting tales of his life to the cat in the alley. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. He's always lying. He's always just telling big old lies. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun. I think they had maybe a little too much fun with this book when they put it together. [00:29:36] Speaker A: This one is a hoot. And it opens on the violator, saying it me. [00:29:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it me. That means I violate. [00:29:49] Speaker A: I violate. I'm that violator boy. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the image. Is the violator frozen in a chunk of ice with a whole bunch of like deep sea creatures. There's like a frozen with him a cuttlefish or two and like some old coelacanths and a starfish or two or five or 12. [00:30:16] Speaker A: There's like chains attached to the block of ice. [00:30:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Just like dug in there. [00:30:21] Speaker A: He says, I know you're wondering how I found myself in this predicament. Well, pull up a chair and let me tell you a story. [00:30:28] Speaker B: A tale I like to call Hurry My Brothers. No, no. He likes to call this tale Blood and Snow. [00:30:39] Speaker A: That's a must Make Haste. [00:30:40] Speaker B: That's a. That's a. The. The title treatment for Blood and Snow is excellent. Yeah, it's an excellent typeface. And yeah, we got this two page spread of just like. There's no way to describe this other than windswept. [00:30:58] Speaker A: It's a windswept coast. [00:30:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like a rocky coast and a dark sea beyond and a whole bunch of swirling clouds around a full moon. And off in the distance there's a town built on a hill. And right next to the front of the viewer is a graveyard. And then in the middle we've got some, some robed men on this rocky coast dragging this big chunk of ice. [00:31:28] Speaker A: Yes. It's gonna remind me like an E.C. horror comic. [00:31:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It's very. It's very like old school pre code comics. [00:31:36] Speaker A: Horror comics. Yeah. [00:31:37] Speaker B: It's also very. It's very Kelly Jones, who did a lot of Batman work in the late 80s. It's got a lot of that feel. [00:31:46] Speaker A: And these monks are just like dragging this big old block of ice. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:50] Speaker A: And he's like, find strength with. Let your suffering power you. Classic Catholic. [00:31:55] Speaker B: Yeah. We are on the isle of Linis Farne, aka Holy island. [00:32:03] Speaker A: And 793 AD. [00:32:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And look how just how cold it is. These, these monks with their, their dragon and they're just like, they're breathing so much hot air out and it's so cold they just got like these billowing clouds. Breath. It's got to be so miserable doing. Doing any sort of manual labor when it's really cold outside is just the worst. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's tough. I moved someone in December and it was not fun. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Oh, at least it wasn't February. That's. That's. [00:32:36] Speaker A: That'd be the worst. [00:32:37] Speaker B: February is for sitting inside and celebrating your birthday, not for anything else. [00:32:43] Speaker A: Yep. My birthday is in February. [00:32:45] Speaker B: Yeah, February. Yeah. We've. Because we've learned that we're on different. Different astrological ends of the February. [00:32:55] Speaker A: Right. I'm the Pisces. [00:32:57] Speaker B: I'm the Aquarius. I am the water in which you swim, fish man. [00:33:01] Speaker A: No, I'm not. No, you're not. [00:33:05] Speaker B: I. I also. Do I. Have I mentioned before that it's funny that you're a fish and you're a fisherman? [00:33:12] Speaker A: I don't think so. I think it's funny. [00:33:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's. It's perfect. It's like it was destined to be. [00:33:19] Speaker A: Aquarius is an air sign, by the way. [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I know it's an air sign, but literally, its depiction is women pouring water. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but there's no fish in there. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but I don't. I don't know how Aquarius can be an air sign when it's literally water. I don't get it. [00:33:36] Speaker A: You're the Aquarius. You tell me. [00:33:38] Speaker B: I don't get it. I know. I know that I am an Aquarius. And that is about all I know about the whole business. [00:33:45] Speaker A: It's the dawning of the age of Aquarius. [00:33:47] Speaker B: There's a guy at the farmer's market, and my favorite shirt I've ever seen this guy wore. So he's. He's a vendor, and he sells, you know, vegetables seasonally, whatever they are at the very beginning of the season. It's asparagus season. And so he always wears his shirt that says it's the dawning of the age of asparagus. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Did you make that shirt? [00:34:09] Speaker B: I did not make that shirt. [00:34:11] Speaker A: Seems like someone's sure you would make. [00:34:12] Speaker B: It's definitely a shirt that I need to buy. [00:34:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's Aquarius. And you're also an asparagus. [00:34:18] Speaker B: I love. Asparagus is so good. [00:34:21] Speaker A: It is good. It's great. [00:34:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And I do not suffer from that. That genetic mutation that makes you smell asparagus pee, so I knew you're gonna mention that. Hey, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? You say. You say it. I bring it up all the time. [00:34:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you've mentioned this before. [00:34:39] Speaker B: I have mentioned it before, so. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Well, I. My piss smells weird when I eat asparagus, David, so congratulations. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Nice. I don't know if mine does so. [00:34:46] Speaker A: Also, if I drink too much coffee. [00:34:51] Speaker B: Boo. Coffee. [00:34:54] Speaker A: I guess everyone. Everyone knows that now. [00:34:58] Speaker B: That was. That. That. That sharing was not my fault. Johnny was. [00:35:02] Speaker A: I was over sharing. I know I was over sharing. It's the Fourth of July. I'm feeling slap happy. [00:35:07] Speaker B: This just means that whenever we meet up with our. With our listeners for parties or whatever, they're gonna be like, johnny, have you been having too much coffee today because. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Your pee smells weird? [00:35:19] Speaker B: Why don't you. Why don't you whip it out and pee here so we can see how much coffee you've had? [00:35:22] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, I would not pee on the floor of a spawn con. I would not do that. [00:35:35] Speaker B: I don't. I don't. There's. What? There's a. Was it. John Malkovich did a show where basically every night in. In the show, part of it is he has to pee on stage every night. I. How the fuck do you do that? Just pee in front of a whole theater full of people? [00:35:53] Speaker A: How did you do that safely? How do they clean. What does he pee into? Like, working toilet? [00:35:57] Speaker B: I think he pees into a bucket. [00:36:00] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Because I think it's. I think it's. I think. I think he's an unhomed man. He's either an unhomed man or like a crazy guy in his asylum room. But part of it is he has to pee on stage every night. And it's like, man, I get. Sometimes I think just me being in the bathroom is too many people. And it's like, oh, geez, shy bladder. [00:36:23] Speaker A: Oh, boy, we're really going there, aren't we? [00:36:26] Speaker B: Well, we gotta just bring it back to these monks. They're saying, it's too late. They have no time. They're here. And then we see out on the horizon just these ships coming out of the smog. [00:36:39] Speaker A: Viking ships. [00:36:40] Speaker B: Yellow smog. And they are. They're heralded by bat. [00:36:45] Speaker A: And their sails are ripped. Their ships of the dead. They're the emissary of evil. [00:36:49] Speaker B: Yeah, these are some frightening Viking ships. And then we see on the. The front of the lead ship, they have what looks very much like one of these monks chained up, except for it's no longer a monk. It is a skeleton. [00:37:06] Speaker A: It's a skellington. [00:37:07] Speaker B: So. So this guy obviously has. Has had it out for these monks for a while. [00:37:12] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been collecting monks. [00:37:13] Speaker B: And then there's a. There's an old emaciated monk who is, like, chained. Chained to an ore. And he's. He's. This old man says, actual hell could not be worse than this infernal ship. And then one of the other Vikings just says, hold your tongue, old man, or fool. [00:37:32] Speaker A: We see a red cape, and someone says, you think that is true, slave? And he's got the classic Spawn. [00:37:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Speech bubble. So he knows Spawn. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And he says, then allow me to hasten your journey. And he grabs the old man's head in his hand and just sports, Sports. [00:37:50] Speaker A: Oh, boy. That's the first head to explode. That's the first head to explode, but not the last issue. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Oh, it's just Viking spawn is just coming out immediately with the. Does not give a. [00:38:04] Speaker A: And he hates monks. [00:38:06] Speaker B: He hates monks. Look at this. Oh, could you. Oh. [00:38:11] Speaker A: Just crushes his head. You see? Like, there's, like, eyeballs, an ear, a tongue. And then he asked the rest of the slaves, any you pathetic flesh bags care to join him? I thought not. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I like. I like how his question is answered with just the scree. Scree of a couple of bats. [00:38:29] Speaker A: Mm. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Roll. Like the devil himself is at your heels. Oh, I guess we get the. The opening reading. I don't need to. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Reading Holy man. He is indeed. [00:38:39] Speaker B: And then we cut back to the monks who are dragging this block of ice that has Violator in it. And they get. They get to a gate in the wall. [00:38:49] Speaker A: And they're almost there. [00:38:52] Speaker B: And then the. One of the lead monks says, get this gate open or all is lost. And they're struggling to get the ice block through the gate. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Raining. Descending from the sky. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:03] Speaker A: Viking spawn. [00:39:05] Speaker B: He leaps from the ship. He leaps a long way from this ship, and he's just like. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah, and he flies, too. He's got his wings out. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he does. He's got some massively freaky bat wings with, like. [00:39:16] Speaker A: With, like, necroplasm crystal tendrils or, like, feathers. [00:39:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then, like, as he's descending, he shoots them out, and they just. They just, like, shook. [00:39:27] Speaker A: Shook. Shook. [00:39:28] Speaker B: And they. He. He skewers. He skewers a monk with these necroplasmic crystals. [00:39:37] Speaker A: He goes, I am slain. That's what I'm. Just scream out. When I die, I'm slain. [00:39:44] Speaker B: It's. It made me. It made me laugh so hard when I came across it the first time. It's not that it's funny. It's just that I enjoy so much that sort of, like, it's. It's something that, as we get into these modern, modern entertainments. We just expect there to be death and a lot of it. And it used to be like, death used to be a grander thing for so much. There was so much imbued in every death. And it's just, you know, I am slain. It's obviously very good. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just. It's just funny how disposable these monks are. He's just, like, chopping through them. He just like carving a path, slicing through them like butter. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And so. So some of the monks. All the monks that make it inside the gate, you know, are in there and one of them's like, we can't leave. We can't leave our brother out there to die. And it's like, no time. We gotta. [00:40:45] Speaker A: No, we're leaving him. [00:40:47] Speaker B: The only thing we could do now is pray that he is granted a place in heaven. [00:40:51] Speaker A: And then we get another head exploding. [00:40:55] Speaker B: As they say, and pray his pain ends in good time. We see the. The viol, not the violin. The Viking spawns Boot come down on his head. [00:41:03] Speaker A: Oh, Boot to the head. [00:41:07] Speaker B: That's his favorite ice cream flavor. [00:41:08] Speaker A: Johnny, is that a flavor of ice cream? [00:41:11] Speaker B: Oh, it's part of the. There's like a Harvey Birdman boot to the head extended joke. And part of it is, is that you're gonna get a year's supply of ice cream, and they're like, oh, really? What flavor? Boot to the head? [00:41:25] Speaker A: Oh, I don't know. I didn't watch Harvey Birdman too much. [00:41:28] Speaker B: Or it might have been proto Harvey Birdman. I don't know. It was an old, old YouTube, pre. YouTube video. [00:41:35] Speaker A: I just remember the novelty song, Boot to the head. [00:41:38] Speaker B: That was fucking Boot to the head PDQ buck. Is that who that was? [00:41:44] Speaker A: I. I don't know. I just remember it was on Dr. Demento CD they had at camp. [00:41:49] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:41:49] Speaker A: We would go to camp, campfire camp, and like, the counselors would bring, like, Dr. Demento and, like, Weird Al cds and stuff. [00:41:56] Speaker B: You know why, Johnny? Because only kids like it. Because only nerds are counselors in summer camp. Nerds. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Nerd alert. I was a nerd too, so I liked it. [00:42:07] Speaker B: I mean, same, same. What was your. What was your first Al album that I owned? Well, that you, like, listened to. The one that got you into Weird Al. [00:42:18] Speaker A: The only one I ever owned was Running with scissors. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Okay, that was. That's what got me into it too, because it was. I was in blockbuster. And the. The Saga begins was playing on the video. The video screen. And I Was like, what is this? And my mom was like, you don't know Weird Al. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Saga Begins was huge for me. [00:42:38] Speaker B: Understandable. [00:42:38] Speaker A: I love Running with Scissors. Was good Albuquerque. A lot of good songs. [00:42:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:44] Speaker A: Living in the Fridge. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Living in the Fridge was a couple years. I think that was on Alapalooza, though. [00:42:49] Speaker A: Oh, it was? [00:42:50] Speaker B: I think so. [00:42:51] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Oh, you got Living in the Fridge. [00:42:55] Speaker A: Actually, I don't think it. I'm gonna challenge that. David. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Living in the Fridge definitely isn't on Running with Scissors. I can guarantee you that. [00:43:03] Speaker A: You're right. It's on Owl Palooza. Okay. [00:43:06] Speaker B: There's. There's the cherry popping Daddy's spoof Grapefruit Diet. Because it starts with the Saga Begins. Saga begins, and then my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder. Or is that EP correct, then? So grapefruit diet is five, right? No, no, there's also all about the Pentiums. [00:43:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:33] Speaker B: Albuquerque, which we already mentioned. There's the. [00:43:36] Speaker A: I was thinking of Germs. That's the Nine Inch Nail Germs parody that's on that one. [00:43:41] Speaker B: There's the. It's like the grunge polka, but I don't remember what the name of it is. [00:43:49] Speaker A: Polka Power. [00:43:51] Speaker B: What other songs on it? There's. Oh, Driving a Truck. Driving a big old Truck. Pretty. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Five for Rabbis. Number three. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:44:01] Speaker A: Weird Al show themes. Number four. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, because he had that. He had a show for like two seasons. [00:44:06] Speaker A: Jerry Springer, the one week parody. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a good one. [00:44:10] Speaker A: Germs. Poke power. Your horoscope for today. The kind of sky. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Speaking of Aquarius, there's travel in your future when your tongue freezes. [00:44:23] Speaker A: All about the Pentiums. Uh oh, it's by Diddy. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:44:29] Speaker A: Truck driving song. Grapefruit diet. Albuquerque. There you go. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Now we know the track. Listening to Running with Scissors by Weird Al. Yeah, I guess that was my first one. My friend had Owlpalooza and I would listen to it. But Running With Scissors was the one, the biggest one for me. [00:44:46] Speaker B: I didn't appreciate the MacArthur Park. Jurassic Park. [00:44:51] Speaker A: I didn't. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Cleverness. [00:44:52] Speaker A: I just liked it until I was much older. I was just like, cool. This is a song about Jurassic Park. [00:44:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun, but yeah. So we got Viking, Viking spawn. Just like flaming necroplasmic sword held aloft like a torch before him. Shouting, shouting threats at these monks as they, they run away. And he comes up to the gate. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Kill him quickly or slowly and he will enjoy himself either way. [00:45:19] Speaker B: And you think these iron gates will protect you? Think again. And he just slices through the iron gate. [00:45:26] Speaker A: Slushes right through it. Yeah, like a lightsaber. [00:45:29] Speaker B: And then we get a close up on the violator's eye in this block of ice that's being dragged by the monks. And slow is starting to boil away. And the violator's eye open. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Looks like an ear of corn. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. It makes. Oh, boy. I want. I want some corn on the cob right now. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Hey, that's a good fourth of July tree. [00:45:50] Speaker B: Oh, man, I fucking love corn. Corn is good. And these monks, they're in some tunnels. They're still dragging this ice. And then they. They press a. They press a secret brick to open. To open a secret passageway. And they leave. They leave a couple of their brothers behind to protect the rest of them. And then, like immediately after this door closes, Viking spawn just like rips through and fucks these two guys up. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he just burns them to hell. [00:46:21] Speaker B: He just like sends some necroplasmic and they get necroplasm at him and they get face melted. Where is your God now? Brutal. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Brutal Viking spawn, Vikingspawn, just blows a hole in the secret passageway. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like looking for this brick. [00:46:41] Speaker A: And it's like this maze of passages, but he can see it's like path of the block of ice. He's like, you guys make this too easy for me. Then he calls them fleshlings. [00:46:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we see the. The monks dragging this ever dwindling block of ice. And they're. They're. One of them is saying out loud, pant, pant. [00:47:05] Speaker A: I think that's probably supposed to be like a sound effect. [00:47:07] Speaker B: I think it was. [00:47:10] Speaker A: That's funny. He just goes pant, pant. I'm gonna say that when I'm tired now. I'm just gonna say pant, yawn, and yawn. [00:47:20] Speaker B: So the. The violator is starting to wake up. He's. He's warmed up sufficiently, and he's like, wait, where. Where am I? I'm cold. And he's like, wait, I remember. [00:47:30] Speaker A: And then we flash back. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:32] Speaker A: To where he's cast out of both heaven and hell. He's just chilling on earth with like the Brachiosaurus and like dinosaurs and crazy creatures. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah, they're like some. Some pteran, I guess. Would those be pterodons? They look kind of like Pterodon bat hybrids. [00:47:49] Speaker A: Yeah, they might be. These dinosaurs are a little fantastical, but they could be pteranodons. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Yeah, they're. They're Frightening. There's that big old snake up in the tree. Oh, look at that guy. Like this little. These little guys with the scrawny necks down at the bottom being like copies. This half bird guy just being like. [00:48:09] Speaker A: Yeah, they're funny and. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Violators just hanging out and all of the things that he helped create. And then he witnesses the. The asteroid. [00:48:21] Speaker A: The asteroid that wipes out the dinosaurs. [00:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And he says, oh, no. Oh, no, look at this. This open mouth violator with just all of this spit tendrils flying everywhere. Oh. Oh, it's great, but it is gross. And then. [00:48:42] Speaker A: And then it comes. The ice age. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Wandering the snow. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Because, Johnny, we know what killed the dinosaurs. [00:48:50] Speaker A: The ice age. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:48:54] Speaker A: Cool. Party. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Everybody chill. Okay. [00:49:00] Speaker A: Everybody chill. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Oh. And so the Violator is just like. Just like. He's like. It was fucking hot in the jungle, but this is too cold. Like just got like ice all over him. [00:49:19] Speaker A: And he makes a wrong step and steps on a frozen lake. [00:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And he falls through it. And he says, of course it ends this way. One cannot accuse the creator of lacking humor. And so he slowly sinks into this cold, cold water. And as one of the damned, he always assumed death by flame. But this, this way isn't entirely unpleasant. In fact, it is quite. I remember everything. We come back to the. To the present time and he pops. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Out of the fucking ice. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Yeah. He busts out of the ice and there's starfish and. And cuttlefish just flying every which way. And then like as soon as. As soon as the violators is out of this ice, he just like starts kind of like shriveling a little bit and going sideways and he's like, I. I remember everything. [00:50:12] Speaker A: He's like, you're a man of God and you pull me from the sea. Why? [00:50:16] Speaker B: They're like, so you may be. They say you may be cursed, but that does not mean you cannot be saved. [00:50:21] Speaker A: And it's like, come on, guys, give it a rest. You're not gonna save this demon. [00:50:25] Speaker B: But, you know, and they're like, well, well, yeah, you know, true. But also, we have a more immediate threat that we thought we could use you against. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, we need your help. [00:50:37] Speaker B: And then. And then there's a loud boom. And one of the monks goes. He's. He is here. And violators like, he. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Me. [00:50:47] Speaker B: And. [00:50:47] Speaker A: And it's Viking spawn. [00:50:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And Violator says, ooh, you must be one of Lucifer's bets. The stories I could tell you. Wait a minute. There's something familiar about your armor. [00:51:01] Speaker A: And they're just like, he's just laying down disses on Lucifer. He's like, he doesn't fight. [00:51:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:05] Speaker A: He sends people to do his word dirty work. And then like, yo, ho, demon says, viking spawn, I'm not to fight, but I want to take you back to Lucifer and join his army. [00:51:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like. It's like he's a. He's like, hell's repo man. He's like, hey, man, I'm just trying to take you back to your original owner. Then I like how this monk says, listen, nuts. That abominable. That abominations words. And he's got his. His large crucifix that has a hidden sword in it. [00:51:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. [00:51:39] Speaker B: I thought immediately that these guys must be part of the Order of the Cruciform Sword, as made popular in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. [00:51:50] Speaker A: They probably. [00:51:50] Speaker B: So I wonder if they have the cool chest tattoo. All of them, hopefully. So basically we just get into. [00:51:56] Speaker A: What does he say to him when he's, like, holding him on the boat, about to chop him up, and he's like, you ready to meet your God? And he's like, are you? Or something like that. [00:52:03] Speaker B: I don't. I don't remember. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Oh, you're the memory man. [00:52:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. But my. My memory of that scene is specifically how awesome it is that they've got the boat being chewed up, and then there's that one board that just goes fuboo. Yeah, that's what I remember about the boat scene. Or go. Don't go between them. Are you crazy? [00:52:26] Speaker A: Go between them. Are you crazy? [00:52:29] Speaker B: I said go around. You said go between them. You said go between. I said don't go between them. Although it was effective because that one boat did get super fucked up. [00:52:40] Speaker A: It did. [00:52:43] Speaker B: So we got. You know, the conversation between Viking Spawn and Violator basically boils down to Viking. Viking Spawn being like, come on, man, what's your problem? What you. Why you got so much problem with everything? And Violator been like, I've been fucked by everybody, so please just go away, or I will make you go away and you won't like it. They begin to fight as. As Vikingspawn says, I am much more a creature of action. And, yeah, they're just. They're just fighting and doing necroplasmic. Necroplasmic and chain and, like, sending bats and, you know, blood everywhere. And Violator, at one point, rips. Rips Viking Spawn's helmet off. So we see his gnarled face. Looks like he's he's carved out of a piece of wood. [00:53:35] Speaker A: Yeah. With a big old beard. [00:53:37] Speaker B: And Vikingspawn says, I do not know what Lucifer sees in you, Basil. And Violator says, that is not my name. I am Violator. [00:53:49] Speaker A: Viking spawns is like. And I am unimpressed. [00:53:53] Speaker B: And Viking spawn wraps Violator in these chains. And Violator goes, chains. Well, what is this? What's this? What's this? There's chains all over the place. [00:54:05] Speaker A: And he's like, I'm gonna. Where am I gonna start with you? Should I rend your flesh? No, I think I'll start with your eyes. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Violators, you really are an arrogant fool. [00:54:15] Speaker A: He's like, what? The chains are not responding to me. [00:54:17] Speaker B: The chains. They do nothing. [00:54:20] Speaker A: The chains. [00:54:20] Speaker B: And then bringing up a point earlier where Violator mentions that he created the Spawn armor. And. But he says, I guess they have loyalty to the creator. You know me. [00:54:34] Speaker A: And he just sends the chains back at Viking spawn and they plunge into his chest. [00:54:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:39] Speaker A: And he just fucking rips him in half. Long ways. [00:54:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And violated or bifurcates him. Yeah. Viking spawn just ends with a slorp. Not so smug now, are we? [00:54:55] Speaker A: He's like, I am famished. So he eats Viking spawns. [00:54:57] Speaker B: Yeah, just eats it straight up. I guess he probably destroyed the heart too much for it to be able to be eaten. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Yeah. He eats that head. [00:55:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he. One of the monks goes, christ preserve us. And so Violet is like, oh, I'd almost forgotten about you. And so he's like, you guys look. You guys look quite tasty. Who shall I eat first? [00:55:23] Speaker A: They're all worried. And he's just laughing at him, being like, you guys are so self serious. [00:55:27] Speaker B: So the. The Violators, like you said. You said you wanted to. To save me. I'm an accursed creature. Why would you want to save me? And they were like, well, I'm not actually. Not actually save you. We just wanted you to fuck this guy up and then we could send you to hell so that way God would be happy with us. [00:55:44] Speaker A: He's like, I didn't expect you guys to tell the truth. [00:55:46] Speaker B: Yeah, this. But look at this. Look at this grizzled old monk man. He's. He's seen some shit. He's like, it's not worth lying to this guy. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:56] Speaker B: And then he's like, I guess. I guess we gotta fight now, huh? Violator gives him a quick. Like a creepy man. Gives him a sniff. Violator says, no. And he's like, there's there's no love lost between me and Lucifer. And I also don't give a shit about God. But you know, you guys did save me from the bottom of the fucking ocean. So on that alone, I'll let you guys live to do whatever the fuck it is you do another day. And then you know, like the monks. [00:56:31] Speaker A: Like, you're just gonna let him go? And like, what fucking mean what? Do we have choice? Do we have the violators? [00:56:37] Speaker B: Like, okay, well, see you by see you, goodbye, I hope to never see you again. And then the fat monk is like, we will not make a deal with this devil. This will not be allowed. [00:56:47] Speaker A: This will not be allowed. And he grabs a sword and just runs, jumps at him. [00:56:51] Speaker B: Yeah. He says, I would rather die fighting you, demon, than live in shame and cowardice empire. [00:56:57] Speaker A: Really? [00:56:57] Speaker B: He's like, okay, you asked for it. And just like, like punches him in such a way that his neck breaks. Yeah. [00:57:07] Speaker A: His head just goes all contorted. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he goes, anyone else? And they're all just like, nope, nope, nope. [00:57:17] Speaker A: And then he plunges his violator hand down the fat monk's throat and rips out his entire skeleton and guts in like one fell swoop. [00:57:25] Speaker B: And he says because he's given himself a skin suit, it's like an Edgar suit. [00:57:30] Speaker A: Edgar suit. It was an Egger suit. [00:57:35] Speaker B: And so it's just like, I'll wear this. This is pretty good. And I like how when you see him walking away, he's like hopping, trying to get one leg in. [00:57:45] Speaker A: Yeah. He's putting on the guys the fat monk's flesh. And we basically see kind of the birth of the clown. [00:57:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker A: I mean, I think that's what this is, right? [00:57:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's got to be, it's got to be sort of the, the, the initial. Yeah. Because he needs, he needs that. He needs a big body to hold all of his weird bits. Yeah, he, he skin shames all humans. They're restrictive, ill fitting skin suits. I do like this, this image of just like fat naked man with the big, the big violator head. [00:58:20] Speaker A: I know, it's hilarious. [00:58:23] Speaker B: Oh, man, it's like, it's, it's like it's a grotesque mascot. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's, it's funny. [00:58:30] Speaker B: And so he, he swims out to the Viking spawn ships that are just sitting there and then it's just like, let's see, let's see what we got going on on this planet. [00:58:44] Speaker A: He's got the face fully on. [00:58:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:46] Speaker A: Looking like clown a little bit. [00:58:47] Speaker B: He's laughing Maniacally. And he's like, I can't wait to see what the humans have done with this place. This is going to be fun. [00:58:56] Speaker A: And he's heading back to society. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Uh oh, Then we get Skull to end the issue. [00:59:03] Speaker A: But there's bonus content. [00:59:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we get the, the inked some process pages and boy, man, these are awesome. These are great. I could not after, you know, after our conversations that we've had with sketch craft about, you know, the details of all the intricacy of coloring. I could not imagine sitting down to one of these and being like, oh, okay, this, okay, let me start coloring this. Yeah, it's like, where do you start? [00:59:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's got great inks. Really shows the detail really well. Yeah. And we haven't talked about the art in this issue, but I love it. [00:59:46] Speaker B: Oh, it's, it's, it's real good. [00:59:49] Speaker A: It's just drippy and goopy and gross and just like an old horror comic. [00:59:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it's perfect. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Which is what it is. It's a new horror comic. [01:00:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it, it fits perfectly with the tone. [01:00:03] Speaker A: No, it really does. Then we get some ads. [01:00:06] Speaker B: Yeah, we get just a couple. The new generations, new stories, New you. [01:00:09] Speaker A: Ad, and the Image Classics ad. [01:00:11] Speaker B: Classics. Yeah. That's Violator Origins number two, Johnny. [01:00:15] Speaker A: That is Violator Origins number two. [01:00:18] Speaker B: And then that, that preview panel on the back is just. I like the plague rats with the violator heads. It's real good. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fun. [01:00:27] Speaker B: I can't, can't wait till we get to that issue. [01:00:31] Speaker A: That's the way you said was your favorite. [01:00:33] Speaker B: No, the five was my favorite because it's the one where he kills the Nazis. [01:00:37] Speaker A: Okay, Right. [01:00:38] Speaker B: But the, the plagues. The plague one is, is excellent. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Cool. We'll do that in a few weeks. [01:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah, excellent. Well, Johnny, it's. It just started raining and I don't know if you, you know, I heard that, but usually as soon as it starts raining dogs, just like, they're just like instinctively like, oh, time to nap. So I got a whole bunch of nappy puppy here, Johnny. Napping puppies here. And they're all pretty good. [01:01:09] Speaker A: They're pretty good. [01:01:10] Speaker B: Which means that's good. It's time to rate the puppy, Johnny. [01:01:14] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies. Yeah, Barbie sleeps when it rains too. She gets cuddly, so it means I sleep when it rains. I lay down next to her. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Oh no, Johnny, you gotta take a nap when it rains because the kids cat wants to cuddle. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Oh yeah. If the cat Wants to cuddle. I'm gonna cuddle with the cat. [01:01:33] Speaker B: They. We should. [01:01:33] Speaker A: He's very picky. [01:01:34] Speaker B: We should make an app that, like, automatically blocks off 90 minutes of your calendar whenever the cat is sitting on you. And then, like, it automatically sets your emails to. To. To respond. There is a cat on me. I cannot respond. Please wait. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Yes. [01:01:53] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure if I worked in an office that had an office cat, I would never get any work done when the cat got on me, because it would be like, I can't do anything. I'm legally obligated to be under the cat right now. [01:02:06] Speaker A: I have to. [01:02:07] Speaker B: Have to. But that is not to say that we're rating this issue 1 1, cat cuddle. [01:02:17] Speaker A: No, we're rating it many times. [01:02:19] Speaker B: That's awfully low. [01:02:21] Speaker A: So, yeah. Violator number two. What am I. What's to say? It's like, a great classic horror comic. Just, like, a fun story. [01:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:29] Speaker A: With all the monks and the Viking. Spawn's just hilarious. Just, like, kills everything he sees. [01:02:35] Speaker B: He's just a force of destruction. [01:02:37] Speaker A: It's fun to have Spawn as, like, a villain that you hate because we're kind of rooting for the Violator in this. And it's fun to have, like, a Spawn as, like, the bad guy. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:45] Speaker A: I mean, he's a bad guy. He's killing lots of people. He has slaves. [01:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:48] Speaker A: That's the response. Not. Spawns are not good. [01:02:52] Speaker B: Yeah. They're. They're supposed to be generals of Hell's Army. So that's usually. That usually selects for some nasty people. [01:03:00] Speaker A: Hal Simmons is just the good one. [01:03:02] Speaker B: Well, also, you know, John of York. Sir John of York was a good one. Pretty. Pretty good, too. [01:03:07] Speaker A: There are a couple good ones in there. Yeah. It's fun to see, like, just an evil, murdering Spawn. The gore in this issue is insane. The art is just so. I keep saying classic horror, but that's what it reminds me of. It's like those old comics. [01:03:25] Speaker B: It's visceral and gooey and. [01:03:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's visceral and gooey and just, like, dirty. And it just feels like, man, I do not want to live in that time. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like everybody is melted a little bit so that it's not, like, realistic. Like. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Right. [01:03:41] Speaker B: If I ever saw somebody who looked like any of these fucking monks, I would run away immediately because they would scare me. But. [01:03:48] Speaker A: Right. No. And it's just fun. Like, the Violators, like, dialogue is just hilarious. His back and forths. [01:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:57] Speaker A: I love that he puts on the Skin suit. That's really funny. It's just fun. It's just a fun, ooey Gooey issue. It's perfect that it came out in October. It's a good, like, October. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it is spooky season read. Perfect Halloween read. [01:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm gonna give it five Brontosauruses. [01:04:20] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:04:20] Speaker A: No, I'm gonna give it five crucifix knives. [01:04:23] Speaker B: Crucifix knives. [01:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah, five crucifix knives. I really like this one a lot. It's just fun. [01:04:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I, I fully agree. It's so the momentum that was built up from the end of the first one. The first issue was just an amazing story, like the. The origin of Becoming the Violator. And here sometimes you. Sometimes after something so grand as a first issue, you kind of expect a little bit of a dip to be like, okay, now we've got. We got a little uphill climb to get to the main apex of the story here. But this just comes out swinging, being like, yeah, the Violator done froze himself on accident. [01:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:09] Speaker B: And here is. Here is the Violator's back, baby. And it's just. It's just wonderful. Picks up that baton from the end of that first issue and just runs with it. It's. Oh, because, I mean, like, we start off seeing all of these teeth. Classic. Classic. Too many teeth in the Violator's mouth is just awesome. And yeah, I love. I love how, you know, obviously he is the pro, the protagonist of this series, but he's got, like, every. He. There's a sense that everybody reading this is on the side of the Violator and kind of feels like the Violators playing into that, and it's very fun. I do. I do agree that seeing a Spawn as a bad guy is also quite fun. And, yeah, the art. The art is amazing. It is some of the best smushed heads I've seen in a Spawn comic ever. [01:06:13] Speaker A: So good. [01:06:14] Speaker B: So good. I am also gonna give it five. And I am gonna give it five holes in the ice that violated. Right through the ice, just, like, right down. [01:06:27] Speaker A: You know, that means, David, that this is. [01:06:30] Speaker B: This is an entrance into the Hellfire Club. [01:06:33] Speaker A: Yes, it is. We both give it five out of five. [01:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Appropriately enough, I think Hellfire is. Is necessary for this particular, Particular issue. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Absolutely. Because it's fire. [01:06:46] Speaker B: Because it's cold, and I need to warm up a little bit. Let us. Let us bask in the glow of the. The Hellfire while we try to get feeling back into our limbs. [01:06:59] Speaker A: Yes. Just. It's just an Oppressive issue. Like everything's oppressive. Like the environment. [01:07:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:04] Speaker A: Those monks are just in over their heads from the beginning. [01:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And you know that, you know they're dragging that, that big block of ice across all those dirty cold ass rocks in just like some sandals. [01:07:16] Speaker A: It's got to be muddy. [01:07:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And those tunnels. Oh, those tunnels got to be gross to walk through. [01:07:23] Speaker A: No, it's. I'm really loving this Violator series. It is quite an accomplishment so far. [01:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, it's real fun. [01:07:31] Speaker A: One of the best spawn things in a long time. Not to say the spawn's bad, but like, it's just one of the best things that's come out. [01:07:39] Speaker B: It's a fun, a fun little self contained idea and they're just, they're just running wild with it. [01:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Hats off to Mark and Draco because he wrote all of them, right? [01:07:51] Speaker B: Yes. Yes, it did. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:53] Speaker B: Just different artists. Just different artists. And you know, hats off indeed, Johnny. And sometimes we also like to do hats off to more than just the people who write comic books. [01:08:05] Speaker A: We like to do hats off to fans of comic books and friends of ours. [01:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And this week we got, we got one particular friend who has a nice, A nice collection. It is, Johnny. It is a famous figure in the Marvel universe, Oatu the Watcher. And this week it is the Watcher collects comics and well, like the name says, they, they collect comics and also from Australia. So we gotta, gotta make sure we, we share that Australian spawn love. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Downunder. [01:08:52] Speaker A: They've got a podcast where they review comics. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. And they, they recently have reviewed some Deadly Tales of the Gunslinger. And Johnny, I just listened to it and guess what? Also a fan of Deadly Tales of the Gunslinger. [01:09:07] Speaker A: So cool. [01:09:08] Speaker B: It's a, it's a good follow. Some good, some good review resource. Great, great swath of collection going on there. Just like endless issues that are good to look at. But yeah, give the Watcher collects comics a follow. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Please do and listen to. [01:09:27] Speaker B: Listen to their podcast. It's good. It's called Do Believe Comics and Black Holes. There's a, there's a link to it on there. [01:09:37] Speaker A: Yeah, check it out. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Yeah, check it out. You know what else is also worth checking out, Johnny? [01:09:42] Speaker A: Our Instagram. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Our Instagram, yes, indeed. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Which I forgot for a couple weeks to post, but I will this week. [01:09:48] Speaker B: Hey, you know what? We all, we all got stuff going on. [01:09:52] Speaker A: It's been busy. [01:09:53] Speaker B: It has. It's. I don't know how it got. How, how, how it get busy. Why? Why it do. Johnny, it's okay. [01:10:02] Speaker A: But we got Instagram hit us up on there. We're posting about episodes. Reach out to us and messages. [01:10:09] Speaker B: Johnny, you just leaned back and put your arms behind your head and I got two. I got a free ticket to the gun show. That was incredible. [01:10:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, thanks. Thanks to Caleb, my personal trainer. Thanks to him. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Sun's out, sun's out. Guns out. Except for the sun's not out, so. [01:10:25] Speaker A: I know it's raining. Rain's out, gains out, baby. [01:10:30] Speaker B: Yeah, there we go. Did you just come up with that yourself right now? Oh, hell yeah. That was amazing. That felt like it was pre prepared. Whoa. [01:10:39] Speaker A: No, that's off the dome. [01:10:41] Speaker B: Oh, man, I could never, I could never be that good. But yeah, send us a, send us a DM or interact with us there. You know, ask us some questions on the Instagram. We love, we love following up with people. It's real good. And if you, you know, don't have Instagram or don't particularly like to interact with people on Instagram, we can always do it the old fashioned way via electronic mail. Just regarding SpawnPod at Gmail. Oh, our Instagram is regarding Spawn podcast. [01:11:09] Speaker A: Forgot to gotta say what it is. Yeah, did find us. [01:11:13] Speaker B: But then, yeah, our email address is regarding spawnpodmail.com so just, you know, if you want to interact with us there, you know, drop us a line. If you don't say, don't read this, we're gonna read it on air. Because we love sharing the feedback we get because it's, it's fucking. Aw. We love talking Spawn and we want to make sure that, you know, Spawn thoughts are perpetuated as frequently as possible. Because there's a lot of Spawn and there's a lot of thoughts on Spawn and we can't encompass them just between us two. [01:11:47] Speaker A: No, we definitely can't. And each week I like to ask a question to spur email responses. And this week I want to ask, have you ever gotten into those old E.C. horror comics? You ever read any of those? Because, like, I don't know, I keep mentioning that. But like the Tales from the Crypt and like the Scream, whatever that one magazine is, I don't remember. They still make it Scream. Or. I can't remember. [01:12:15] Speaker B: I can't remember. [01:12:16] Speaker A: Black. And the one with the black and white ink pages. Those are cool. [01:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I don't know. I don't know. I know that they keep putting out like collections of the old DC comics. [01:12:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I need to check it out. I just, I like, I'VE read some Tales of the Crypt a little bit and like a couple other things, but I don't know, it's just fun. [01:12:36] Speaker B: I think the only pre code comics I've. I've read really were like those original MAD Magazine issues. And they had a lot of the guys who worked on the horror. The horror comics also worked on MAD Magazine. [01:12:50] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:51] Speaker B: And so you got like, you know, you got like, really, really disgusting artwork. Just making like stupid jokes about everything. Like people getting decapitated in the heads, making just like the worst jokes imaginable, like, whoa, that's a load off of my shoulders. Or some. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Got him. That's funny. Yeah, I just want to know if anyone's into those and hear about it. So hit us up. [01:13:19] Speaker B: Yeah, hell yeah, do that. Like, speaking of, speaking of doing it and hitting up, you got to hit up Lonnie Bones. Lonnie Bones does our music and it is very good. [01:13:28] Speaker A: Gotta do it, Gotta do it. [01:13:30] Speaker B: Don't forget to like us, subscribe to us. Give us a rating. Wherever you rate. You know, whatever podcaster you're listening on, just give it a quick little beep. A little beep. [01:13:40] Speaker A: Beep. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah, feedback is good. We, we, we crave. We crave the feedback. [01:13:46] Speaker A: Not on our mics though. [01:13:47] Speaker B: No. Yeah, definitely not that kind of feedback. We gotta, we gotta get us something to talk about on the podcast for next week. Johnny, what would you say? [01:13:58] Speaker A: I've got just the thing. [01:13:59] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Do you now? [01:14:02] Speaker A: Yeah, some consider it a lucky number. [01:14:08] Speaker B: And it is. Slevin. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Lucky. No, the other one that rhymes with slevin. [01:14:13] Speaker B: 7. [01:14:13] Speaker A: Lucky number 7. Because we're doing two awesome issue number 11s, if you haven't guessed. It's Rat City and Sam and Twitch Case Files. Excellent. And we'll be doing that next week. Or if you're me and David, in like five minutes. Yeah, they're doing a double record today, baby. That means the next episode is going to be like 45 minutes long. [01:14:39] Speaker B: Yeah, because we've already gotten all the nonsense that we need out of the warmed up. [01:14:42] Speaker A: We warmed up. [01:14:44] Speaker B: Don't expect us to take any tangents on this next episode. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Nope, it's all business. [01:14:49] Speaker B: Yeah, but. Yeah, get yourself a hold of copies of issues 11 of SAM and Twitch Case Files and Rat City. Come back and listen to us talk about them. Yeah, that'll be fun. Excellent, man. I'm excited to get this episode. Love Sam and Twitch and Johnny. In the interests of keeping something to talk about for the next episode, I should shut up and stop talking so. [01:15:13] Speaker A: Yeah, we got another fucking hour and a half of this, David. [01:15:16] Speaker B: I gotta make sure I have nothing else to say except may the scorched be with you. [01:15:22] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:15:23] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:15:25] Speaker A: Hell yeah. It's good we're celebrating Violator on Independence Day because he broke his independence from heaven. [01:15:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I was about to say when you were reading that previously on Like. That was like the most perfect thing to read on Independence Day. Yeah, the. The rebellion against the divine Creator, Fighting for freedom from enslavement. Victory against heavenly forces. [01:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what it's all about, baby. So maybe instead of watching Independence Day, you should read Violator Number two. Absolutely every fourth of July. Yeah, that'd be a weird fourth of July choice. [01:16:03] Speaker B: But I mean, it couldn't be any weirder than like, actually being. Woo. Fourth of July, right? [01:16:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Well, we're the baddies. [01:16:17] Speaker B: This. This episode will be coming out after 4th of July, obviously, because that's the way time works. So I hope everybody listening has retained each and every one of the digits that they started their day with. However, if any of you did happen to blow any of your fingers off, you please need to send those pictures to regardingspawnpodmail.com. [01:16:39] Speaker A: So that David can look at that. [01:16:41] Speaker B: So that David can look at this. [01:16:42] Speaker A: Johnny won't. [01:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah, David. Be sure to say this is for David only. [01:16:48] Speaker A: You're a real sicko, David. [01:16:50] Speaker B: I have friends who have friends who work in emergency rooms who. Who I only ever interact with at this time of year. [01:16:59] Speaker A: Oh my God. I have. [01:17:00] Speaker B: I have a problem, Johnny. [01:17:03] Speaker A: You do? I'm leaving. We're not recording another episode. You sicken me. [01:17:08] Speaker B: Oh, fine. Bye, Johnny. [01:17:10] Speaker A: Bye. Forever. [01:17:15] Speaker B: You're. You're my missing digit, Sam. Sa.