Episode 146 - Violator: Origins 3

[00:00:01] Speaker A: To paraphrase Charles Dickens, C. Classy. It was the worst of times. It was the worst of times. Good evening and welcome to the Malbolge. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:51] Speaker B: And I'm your co host David Williams. And Johnny. I don't think it's. The headline said it was the worst of times. I do believe it's true. [00:01:02] Speaker A: They said yesterday because it was the. We were number one in the worst air quality in the world. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I saw that. [00:01:07] Speaker A: I saw that on July 31st. The worst air quality in the world. I was out and about. [00:01:12] Speaker B: I was having a conversation with somebody at work with like a couple of people at work, and people were like, it's fucking bad outside, air wise. And then somebody. Somebody's a partner who was having a day off and was gardening at that time, like text messages and said, shit, this air quality is garbage. It was hazy. [00:01:30] Speaker A: Wild because of wildfires, huh? [00:01:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. I think so. Because it's Canadian wildfires. Fire season. [00:01:36] Speaker A: They're burning up. I think we talked about this before, but technically those are future Spawn comics that are burning. [00:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Canadian paper. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Also. Also mustard. Canada grows almost all of the world's mustard. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Really? [00:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Like all the. All the fancy French mustards. It's all grown in Canada and then shipped back to France to be turned into that good, good juice. Well, that's interesting. Goo juice. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Oh, God, I don't want to drink mustard. [00:02:04] Speaker B: You're not. [00:02:04] Speaker A: I have a love hate relationship with mustard. [00:02:06] Speaker B: You're not out here drinking mustard. The. The thing about mustard is there are so many different kinds of mustard and each one of them has like their own specific use. And if you try to use one kind of mustard in a context it's not supposed to be used in, it's just fucking terrible. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I had a bad experience. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Yellow mustard is basically only good for hot dogs. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Yeah. And corn dogs. No, I had a really bad experience with like, like Chinese, like hot mustard. Like yellow mustard. [00:02:39] Speaker B: Oh, like that, that super horseradishy mustard. Oh, yeah. [00:02:42] Speaker A: I. I worked at PF Chang's and a giant Cambro of it, like a big container of it fell on the floor and got all over me. It like, seeped into my skin and. And like it got everywhere. I didn't drop the camera. It wasn't my fault, but I was like in the crossfire and I just smelled like that mustard. I could. I can't do it anymore. Like, I can't do if there's a mustard has a hint of that, like really horse radish Y. I'm like, I'm out. [00:03:03] Speaker B: Oh, man, those big spills fucking suck. When I worked at Quiznos, I accidentally dropped like a. A four gallon tub of mayo on the floor. It took like, three hours to clean up because that shit is so slippery. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I bet. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Oh, it was gross. Don't ever drop a whole bunch of mayo, guys. [00:03:23] Speaker A: Don't do it. [00:03:24] Speaker B: Don't do it, or hot mustard will. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Scar you for life. [00:03:27] Speaker B: If you. If you do, just. Just cut off that part of whatever building you're in. You're never going in there again. [00:03:33] Speaker A: Nope. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Just let the ants have it. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Make it into an ice skating rink. Skate on the mayo. [00:03:41] Speaker B: That would be a. Even though I am, you know, constitutionally opposed to pranks, Johnny, that would be a really good prank to do. You sneak into your. Your high school's gymnasium and cover the floor in mayo and have everybody do some ice skate. [00:03:57] Speaker A: You get on your prank. High horse. Again. [00:04:00] Speaker B: That would. But that would be. That. [00:04:01] Speaker A: That would be Mr. No prank. [00:04:02] Speaker B: That would be the worst. Because then the custodial staff would have to take care of it, and they don't. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Yeah, David, think about that. That's why you don't like pranks. [00:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's why I don't like pranks. Yeah, it's unconsensual. Non consensual. Hilarity jokes should be consensual, as in. [00:04:19] Speaker A: This, wow, put it on a T shirt. [00:04:24] Speaker B: I don't know if it would sell very well. Maybe it's not. It's not. It's not crude enough, Johnny. We'd have to put some kind of. [00:04:30] Speaker A: It's not snappy enough. [00:04:32] Speaker B: It should be like, jokes and tits should be consensual or something. That'll. That'll move it. It's got to be. It's got to be edgy. So we can sell them at Spencer's. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Yep. With right next to. What's his name, the fucking baseball guy. We always talk about Big Johnson shirts. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Oh, Big Johnson. I thought we were talking about, like. I thought we were talking about, like, an actual baseball person. [00:04:51] Speaker A: No, no, no. Big Johnson. Those Big Johnson shirts they used to sell. My cousin had those. We've talked about it. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Have you. Have you been into Spencers recently? [00:05:02] Speaker A: No. [00:05:03] Speaker B: So it's probably been, like, years in, like the last decade. They've slowly shifted to where the back half of the store is literally just Priscilla's, where fun and fantasy meet. [00:05:14] Speaker A: They always. That's a sex shop in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for those that don't live in Tulsa. [00:05:18] Speaker B: It has. It has the best fucking jingle of all goddamn time. I mean, they've always. They've always had some, but like, it's never been. It's never been as blatant as this. It's like one side T shirts, one side dildos, and there's nothing in between. [00:05:31] Speaker A: My two favorite things. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Make it even better about. With T shirts with dildos on them or dildos that wear T shirts. [00:05:43] Speaker A: A dildo with a T shirt on your eyes got a great mental image. [00:05:46] Speaker B: They're self conscious about their body, so they keep the shirt on so that way nobody can see their full. [00:05:53] Speaker A: Gotta cover that. [00:05:54] Speaker B: They gotta cover it up. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I believe that's just called being uncircumcised. David. That's a dildo in a T shirt. [00:06:05] Speaker B: No, that specifically would have to be a turtleneck. A dildo turtleneck. [00:06:09] Speaker A: That is a turtleneck. Oh, boy. [00:06:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Worst air quality. [00:06:18] Speaker B: Worst air quality coming out of this podcast right here. This is bad air quality for your ears. [00:06:25] Speaker A: This is right at the start of Lollapalooza. So all those, all those kids are going to be choking on the air in Chicago this weekend. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Oh, boy. It's Johnny. I can't believe you aren't going to Lollapalooza. I know, I know you like to Hull ass Tallahassee. [00:06:39] Speaker A: No. Hell no, man. I'm going to Ghost, baby. I'm going to Ghost tonight. [00:06:45] Speaker B: Ah, Ghost. Well, I mean, not the movie Ghost. They should put. Are they. Are they gonna put Ghost back in the theaters for like the 30th anniversary in six years? They probably are gonna. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that's become more and more popular with movies, so I imagine. [00:07:00] Speaker B: So just imagine if we were. If we lived in California, it would be likely that we could go to one of those hosted by Whoopi. [00:07:08] Speaker A: It's true. [00:07:09] Speaker B: But basically only California, because Whoopi famously does not fly. [00:07:14] Speaker A: If we were dead, we might go to one that was hosted by Patrick Swayze. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Ooh, if you're in heaven. [00:07:20] Speaker A: I was gonna say if we're in hell. And I thought that was too mean to Patrick Swayze. [00:07:23] Speaker B: Do you think, do you think Patrick Swayze's afterlife career is just hosting Ghost. Hosting ghost showings? [00:07:31] Speaker A: Yes. He is dead, right? I'm not making that up. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He had a pancreatic cancer or prostate cancer. One of. One of the. [00:07:39] Speaker A: I don't want to kill. I don't want to kill anyone like you did. Ozzy Osbourne. [00:07:42] Speaker B: So, I mean, I'm sorry, Johnny. I'm sorry, everybody. I'm sorry, Sharon. I didn't mean to do that to you. [00:07:49] Speaker A: No, you just. You just said what was writing on the wall. [00:07:53] Speaker B: I just. I just used my eyes and was like that, man. Not doing well. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, speaking of Lollapalooza, Johnny, one of the main headliners this year is everybody's favorite novelty song singer Rebecca Black. [00:08:10] Speaker A: I fucking love Friday. It's a banger. [00:08:12] Speaker B: It is a fucking banger. Like, it started off as being like, this is the worst shit in the world. And then you hear all the jokes and then it's. It just settles down to being a nice. But they did Rebecca Black, Dirty Johnny. [00:08:22] Speaker A: I sing it every Friday. I'm gonna sing it today. [00:08:24] Speaker B: They got her playing on Sunday. How are you supposed to play your number one hit, Friday? On a Sunday? [00:08:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it's Sunday. What the, man? [00:08:34] Speaker B: I. I always. I always sing it every Friday. It's Friday by Rebecca Black. And then the fat. The flat Friday song. [00:08:42] Speaker A: No. Yeah. When I was off on Fridays, I used to sing that. Yeah, I work Fridays now usually, but I used to be off on Fridays, so I would. I would love Friday. Friday's probably my favorite day. If I had to pick a day. Friday. [00:08:56] Speaker B: I like the potential of Monday, but I don't like Mondays. Monday is. Monday is a wide open. I like. I like a Tuesday. A Tuesday is good. [00:09:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:09:07] Speaker B: It's not. It's not very magical or romantic, a Tuesday. It's. But it's. You're already in it. You're doing stuff. You're going. You know what you're supposed to be doing. You haven't hit very many hurdles yet. And it's just. It's like the potential of Monday, only you're already in it. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Okay. I like Friday just because. The feeling of freedom. [00:09:27] Speaker B: Friday. There's a magic to Friday even. Just because we've. We've set ourselves up around this schedule for so long, there's always just. Even if you aren't doing anything on Friday or if you're working or like there's nothing set up. There's just like this magical feeling. It's six o' clock on a Friday evening and it's just like the world is your motherfucking oyster. It's amazing. [00:09:50] Speaker A: It's also like, when I was a kid, we used to have pizza nights. [00:09:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:09:54] Speaker A: And like rent movies and stuff and just hang out, rent video games and like eat pizza. [00:09:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. We used to we. We got into making our own pizza on Fridays. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:06] Speaker B: When I was a kid, so we. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Were a Pizza Hut family. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Oh, nice, nice. We did a lot of Little Caesars. Pizza, pizza, pizza, pizza. I fucking love Little Caesars. Yeah. [00:10:16] Speaker A: So good. Hot and ready. [00:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:18] Speaker A: H O T T O G o. Yeah, it's. [00:10:21] Speaker B: It's good. It's good. [00:10:23] Speaker A: One of those movies I might have rented. Actually, no, I saw in the theater, but maybe I rented it after I saw in the theater. Which one would have been 1997's spawn. [00:10:31] Speaker B: Oh, nice. Yeah. I wasn't allowed. No, that, that didn't make it into the house until I saw it in theaters. [00:10:37] Speaker A: David. I was 11 years old. [00:10:40] Speaker B: That was one of those ones that. I think I watched a terrible stream of it my freshman year of College at 4 in the morning. [00:10:49] Speaker A: You've said that before. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:52] Speaker A: No. Andy Gardner, my friend whose parents didn't give a fuck what we saw. I would go spend the night at his house and we'd see shit like Spawn. I saw like High Fidelity in like seventh or eighth grade. [00:11:01] Speaker B: I don't, I don't know if High Fidelity would be good for a seventh or eighth grade. [00:11:04] Speaker A: I loved it. It was eighth grade. I loved it. I thought I was very sophisticated for liking it. [00:11:10] Speaker B: I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have. [00:11:11] Speaker A: I love Jack Black. Of course, I was like goals. [00:11:14] Speaker B: I mean, still. I mean, look at, look at, look at, look at me. [00:11:19] Speaker A: The Jack Black beard going on. I got a Jack Black bod. Well, actually, I got a better bod than him right now. Sorry, Jack, no offense. [00:11:28] Speaker B: You got better fashion sense too. He walks around in some very loud clothing that does not match one of us. [00:11:36] Speaker A: Speaking of mismatched loud clothing. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Oh, yes, absolutely. Speaking of. Speaking of bods, Johnny, speaking of bods. [00:11:44] Speaker A: We'Ve got a guy who wears many suits in our issue today. And what are we, David? [00:11:49] Speaker B: Well, we are Respawn. [00:11:52] Speaker A: I'm not letting you take it. That was a trick to see if you go for it. You did. You betrayed me. This is regarding Spawn Respawn, where each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. Except when we don't. This is a don't. [00:12:06] Speaker B: This is a don't. [00:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a don't week. Because we don't bring you two. We done bring you one. Yeah, because it's a big old hefty, double sized issue. [00:12:16] Speaker B: It's. I. I haven't counted the pages, but I feel like this one might actually be slightly larger than the previous two. [00:12:23] Speaker A: At least the second one. I think the first one was pretty large. [00:12:29] Speaker B: There's a lot in this one. [00:12:30] Speaker A: And what this one is is violator number three. Violator origins number three, from November 2024. And it takes place in the medieval times. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Yeah, at the. At the medieval times. Well, no, not the. Not. Not. [00:12:47] Speaker A: Not medieval. What is it? [00:12:49] Speaker B: That would be like the Dark Ages. [00:12:52] Speaker A: So, okay, the plague times. When does Game of Thrones happen in all this? When is that set? That was a history show, right? [00:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'd say that was probably around. That would have been like 700, 800 A.D. i think so just a couple hundred years before this. Okay, so not too terribly long before this, but okay. [00:13:17] Speaker A: What year did Tywin Lannister die? [00:13:20] Speaker B: You know, yesterday? [00:13:22] Speaker A: What? [00:13:25] Speaker B: I don't know. I forget which one Tyran Lannister is because they all have similar names. Game of Thrones is a terrible show for somebody like me who never remembers anybody's fucking name because all of the names are, like, two vowels different. [00:13:40] Speaker A: They are. They're all very similar. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. I used to. In high school, when we would read books in English class, there would always be a quiz before we started class to see how much of the book you read. And half of the questions were always, what is this person's name? And it's like, I don't fucking know. He's the guy with the thing. [00:14:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, when I read books, sometimes it'll just be like. It's like some characters that they're not big characters will be like, I just remember the first letter of their name. Like, oh, it's that J guy. [00:14:10] Speaker B: I remember, like, the shape of their name. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Right. [00:14:12] Speaker B: And I always kind of, like, see that word as sort of the silhouette of how I think that person looks. And then that's. That's all. Like, if people will ask me about. Did you. Did you get to the part with. With Kevin? And I'm like, who the fuck is Kevin? [00:14:26] Speaker A: Who the fuck are they talking about? [00:14:28] Speaker B: What is this? But we're not talking about Kevin here, Johnny. [00:14:33] Speaker A: I don't think we're talking about any Kevin's. There's no Kevin's in the credits. [00:14:35] Speaker B: I don't. I don't remember there being any Kevin's anywhere in this book. But, you know, maybe. Maybe this. Maybe this fop at the beginning was originally named Kevin. [00:14:45] Speaker A: He could have been. I love a fop. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Oh, man, a fop is always fun. [00:14:54] Speaker A: I was in the Imaginary Invalid in high school, which is like, a very foppish Play a lot of fun. Those French comedies, they're wacky. [00:15:09] Speaker B: They're wacky. Speaking of French comedies, Johnny, this violent. [00:15:12] Speaker A: French story, we're set in France. [00:15:14] Speaker B: Yeah, in Paris. Gay Paris. [00:15:18] Speaker A: Well, we might as well start where we always start. Which is the covers? [00:15:22] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:15:23] Speaker A: I have the A cover. David, there's three covers this week. [00:15:28] Speaker B: Three of them. [00:15:30] Speaker A: Three. Count them, three. [00:15:32] Speaker B: Trace, one, two, seven. Wait, one, one, two, five. Three Star, three. Which cover do you have, Johnny? [00:15:43] Speaker A: I said I have the A cover. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Oh, you have the A cover? Well, I also have the A cover. Sorry, I was. My caffeinated drink is only. It's. It's halfway down the chute, so I'm only halfway present. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah, we've talked about it before we recorded, but I'm drinking a Starbucks Iced Energy, a new drink I found at Walgreens, now available at Walgreens. Thanks. Walgreens. [00:16:08] Speaker B: What? Is it also in the. Is it also behind a locked. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's in a locked case. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Oh, man. They did that with my. With toothpaste. They've got it now. Like, what, in a little. Little plastic box that you have to take up to the counter and get them to unlock so you can buy your goddamn tube of toothpaste. [00:16:26] Speaker A: What the fuck? [00:16:27] Speaker B: It's ridiculous. [00:16:29] Speaker A: That's weird. Let's just do like, gotcha machines. Like in Japan. You just walk around the different machine. [00:16:34] Speaker B: You put a gotcha pot of all your things. [00:16:36] Speaker A: Gotcha pond. Yeah. And like a random toothpaste comes out. [00:16:40] Speaker B: But if you're looking for the toothpaste you want, you got to buy like seven of them. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta keep going. You gotta keep. Till you get the ones with the breath crystals or whatever. Yes, I have the A cover, and it is glorious. [00:16:55] Speaker B: Mm. [00:16:56] Speaker A: It's a plague Doctor spawn, which I was so. David, full disclosure. I hadn't read this one before last night. [00:17:03] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:17:03] Speaker A: I reread it this morning, and I was so pleasantly surprised that these are spawn plague doctors. They were spawn. I thought they were just plague doctors. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Yeah, no, they're fucking. They're fucking wild. And there's a whole bunch of them. A whole bunch of spawns on. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a great issue. But my cover is a spawn plague doctor, and it's three little. Four little violator rats. Yeah, little rats. [00:17:34] Speaker B: It's fucking cool. It's done by John Wayshak, the interior artist. And it's. [00:17:42] Speaker A: He's got that great, like, over exaggerated but, like, creepy style. It's crazy. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's. It's wonderful. There's Spikes everywhere. So many spikes, Johnny. [00:17:56] Speaker A: So many spikes on the Plague Doctor. So many spiky teeth. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Mm. It's like he's just like breathing out clouds of necroplasm. [00:18:06] Speaker A: The Plague Doctor mask is just creepy and cool. I like it. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's real cool. It's really cool. [00:18:13] Speaker A: It's like steampunk in real life or something. [00:18:17] Speaker B: I guess it would. Proto steampunk. [00:18:19] Speaker A: That's what steampunk is going for, probably. I don't know. I just think they're cool. I know that's probably insensitive after 2020, but would've been a lot cooler if we were all wearing Plague Doctor masks instead of M95s, you know what I'm saying? [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. [00:18:40] Speaker A: What cover do you have, David? [00:18:41] Speaker B: I also have the A cover. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm trying to find pictures of the other two covers, and it's very hard to find them because everybody thinks that. I mean, the other violators. [00:18:53] Speaker A: If you search Violator Origins three, it pops them all up. [00:18:56] Speaker B: All right, so I found them both now. So there's cover B. The COVID B is the Ben Templesmith. And Ben Templesmith is a very well known horror comics guy. And so it is a legitimately creepy cover. It's the. The fop that we've mentioned before that shows up very early in the issue. And he's got. He's like. It's a two face fop where he's got. Yeah, half Fop face, half violator face. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Yep. [00:19:26] Speaker B: And we know he's evil because there's flies buzzing around him, Janet. [00:19:30] Speaker A: And there's shit in the street. Oh, man, it's the 1300s. [00:19:36] Speaker B: I like how he's got that, like. He's got that little creepy mustache that just kind of like melts into violator teeth. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I like his big feather in his hat. [00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It looks like he was a rejected musketeer. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Looks like d'. Artagnan. [00:19:56] Speaker B: Did you ever see the. That Disney produced one that had Oliver Platt and fucking Chris o', Donnell, Charlie Sheen and, oh, what's his face, who played Athos? Fucking Mr. 24 himself. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Lost Kiefer Sutherland. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Yeah, Kiefer Sutherland. And Tim Curry as the Cardinal. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Yes, absolutely, Richelieu. [00:20:21] Speaker B: Stacked cast. [00:20:23] Speaker A: I saw that shit in theaters too. I remember loving that movie. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Oh, man, we had it on VHS and it. It played at least once a week for years in our house. [00:20:31] Speaker A: Yeah, it was fun. [00:20:33] Speaker B: This gift, this axe was a gift to me from the Tsarina of Tokyo. [00:20:40] Speaker A: I like. I like those pg, like Disney Adventure movies like the Jungle Book. Live Action was really good. [00:20:45] Speaker B: I never saw the Jungle Book one. [00:20:47] Speaker A: It was good Three Musketeers. I'm trying to think of other ones, but I feel like there's early 90s, like PG live action that Disney would make. And there were some decent ones. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it was a good period. [00:21:01] Speaker A: And we got the C cover. [00:21:02] Speaker B: Yes, it's Javier Fernandez, our friend. I am really sad that this isn't the COVID that I was able to find because I love a Javier Fernandez cover. [00:21:13] Speaker A: And it's just got this fucking giant plague doctor. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the John Wayshack cover from a different angle. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Yeah, Basically big old. Well, you're from the Rats. The rat violator angle. And there's the big Plague Doctor. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Yeah, there's the. The four little Violator rats. Just. [00:21:34] Speaker A: Man, that makes me mix Javi Fernandez on King Spawn. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:38] Speaker A: Oh, man, those early King Spawns. All the cosmic shit. And his like cosmic landscapes were so cool. [00:21:45] Speaker B: It was dope shit. [00:21:46] Speaker A: So much size and scale. [00:21:49] Speaker B: It was good. It was good. It was so good that it made Johnny a spawn boy. [00:21:55] Speaker A: It made me start getting into Spawn. That's why I got the spawn was King Spawn, baby. [00:21:59] Speaker B: It's why we're here. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Thank you, King Spawn. [00:22:02] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you, Javier Fernandez. We should write him a letter. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Dear Javier, we stan a legend. [00:22:07] Speaker B: We do. [00:22:07] Speaker A: We stan a king. What is the King one? Oh, short King Safan's not short though. Maybe. We don't know. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Violator is. [00:22:18] Speaker A: Yeah, clown. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Clown. Definitely short. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Clown short. Yeah, we stand short. King the clown. [00:22:24] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know if we want to equate any either of the co hosts of this podcast with Violator Clown. [00:22:31] Speaker A: But yeah, he's a lovable guy. He's just having some fun sometimes. Yeah, he's just eating hearts and taking names. [00:22:42] Speaker B: He's all out of names. [00:22:44] Speaker A: So he's just eating hearts. [00:22:45] Speaker B: Eating hearts. So why don't we. Why don't we pop this. Pop this cover here and give some credits where they're due? Johnny. Yeah, we as we have for two previous issues, we here have script plot by Mark Andraco. We got a new artist as we've been doing with each issue here. Johnny. It is John Wayshak as mentioned, who did the COVID A some crazy art. [00:23:09] Speaker A: It's crazy. It's really cool. [00:23:11] Speaker B: It's really good. Brad Simpson does the colors. Antworld design is doing the lettering. We covered the covers. Todd McFarlane is that creative director and Thomas Healy is editorly chiefing. And chiefingly editoring. [00:23:26] Speaker A: Chief Keef. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Chief Keef. He is Chief Keef. I know, I know. If you've seen pictures of the two of them, you wouldn't believe it. But. [00:23:38] Speaker A: So previous, don't forget, he gets it in there. Violator created by Todd McFarlane. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:23:45] Speaker A: You're just doing the whole thing. Dave, you doing the previously on. As well. [00:23:48] Speaker B: You can do the previously on. [00:23:49] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:23:51] Speaker B: We've only got one, so we got to split it up. I did the. I did the credits. You do that. You. You're a better. You're a better orator than I am. [00:23:58] Speaker A: That's not true. Yes, it is. [00:24:02] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Previously in Violator. Man, this story is just getting better by the issue, isn't it? Just when you think you know what's gonna happen. Blam. Get slapped in the face with an axe by a giant Viking hellspawn. And yes, he smelled exactly like you would think he smelled. But now we're getting to good parts, so settle in and enjoy. Love the little Violator. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Previously on so Sassy. [00:24:31] Speaker A: I wonder if Thomas Healy wrote those. [00:24:34] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe. It's possible. [00:24:37] Speaker A: I would assume so. [00:24:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Or, I mean, you know, it could be Mark and Draco probably could have. Yeah, it's possible because they do. It is part of the. The story as a whole. I have a feeling that. I have a feeling that if you ask to do the previously ons, they let you, and then otherwise, it's just whatever they give you. [00:24:59] Speaker A: Right. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Last week, last issue of Violator, we had the Viking hell spawn. [00:25:07] Speaker B: Yes. And the. And the Monks. [00:25:11] Speaker A: It was a fun little horror romp. [00:25:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. Very frightening. Very frightening that the Viking spawn might be the scariest spawn we've come across yet. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Johnny, he's pretty scary. He's just. He's just relentless. [00:25:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. That's part of what makes him so scary. It's. There's no. There's no. There's no rationalizing with him. He's just a ball of fury. [00:25:35] Speaker A: Vikings are already scary because they're gonna come, rape and pillage you. They bake and tall, and they make you. Make them spawn. [00:25:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:46] Speaker B: And it's got that chip that's got dead people hanging all over it. Oh, boy. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just killing people. Whatever. Loosey goosey. Blowing up this issue. [00:25:58] Speaker B: Blow it up. [00:25:59] Speaker A: It was excellent. I like this Number three. [00:26:01] Speaker B: This is. This is very good. Number five, I think, is still my favorite, but this one is very good. [00:26:08] Speaker A: We'll find out. So far, this is probably my favorite number. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Number five is basically Cabaret with Violator. [00:26:15] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. You talked about it. I'm excited. [00:26:18] Speaker B: I hope it holds up to. When we get to it. I don't want you to be like, david, this is. You suck. [00:26:23] Speaker A: No. [00:26:26] Speaker B: But we start, Johnny, where we always do. In the eye of a fly. [00:26:33] Speaker A: Yep. But it's kind of like Violator's eye. But it's the eye of a fly. He's looking at Violators. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah, he's looking at Violator. So it's Violator all, like, tessellated across these. These prisms of the fly eye. [00:26:46] Speaker A: Yeah. He says, still there. Are you color me impressed. Which I suggested is the opening quote, because if you're still listening. [00:26:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Not really thankful, more thankful. Thankful, but still impressed. [00:27:05] Speaker A: He promises some classy narration, and that's where we get the opening quote. Yes, Charles Dickens. And as you turn the page, you get revealed to the Violator's current form, which is the fop we've been talking about. He's like a French dandy man. [00:27:20] Speaker B: Yeah. With his long hair and his thin little mustache and his big hat and his big floppy boots and his cane. He's just standing on the middle of a bridge, and all around him is piles and piles of dead people. And Johnny, I'm a little upset because I am represented in this comic book. [00:27:44] Speaker A: You that beard guy. [00:27:45] Speaker B: I'm that beard guy right there. That's. That's like almost. It's almost. I just need to fuck up my nose a little bit more. And it's almost exactly me. [00:27:52] Speaker A: Oh, my God, you're right. [00:27:54] Speaker B: So just in case you're not on Instagram and you want to know what half of your co hosts look like, it's the. I look almost exactly like this beard guy on the pile of dead people. [00:28:03] Speaker A: In Violator Number three. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Kind of a little Rasputin. Oh, no. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Oh, no. But so. So. [00:28:17] Speaker A: And then Violators is kind of like waxing poetic on the state of the world and the state of humanity. Who he hates. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So talking about. Talking about how not only is death and the smell of piss in the air, but there's also grief, despair, and hopelessness, which would make really good girls names. [00:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's funny. [00:28:41] Speaker B: It's funny. And then, you know, back to the initial question that. That led to Basil being a fallen angel from. From heaven and turning into the Violator, and it's like, is this. This. This pile of rotting human flesh is what the creator adored, above us, his original creations also. So there's just some. Some seething resentment at, you know, as he continues to see where the creator has taken this place that he helped create. And it's like the. He just gets more and more bitter about it as time goes on. And then. And then, Johnny, we get. Hold on. Arms. Arms for a desperate woman. [00:29:37] Speaker A: Oh, Lo. Oh, my God. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Did it cut me off on the zoom there? [00:29:44] Speaker A: No, I can hear you. [00:29:45] Speaker B: Okay. It was just bad. Alms. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Alms for a desperate woman. Of course, from Sweeney Todd. [00:29:52] Speaker B: Sweeney Todd, Yes. The unknown to Sweeney Todd himself, but his wife gone crazy from being captured and raped by the dude Face. What's his name? The bad guy? Judge. He's a judge. [00:30:05] Speaker A: The judge. Judge Turpin. [00:30:07] Speaker B: Turpin. That's his name. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Pretty Women Silhouetted. Love Sweeney Todd. Mainly because I just love Johnny Depp. [00:30:18] Speaker B: Absolutely. He's done nothing wrong. [00:30:22] Speaker A: He's good in that movie. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Alan Rickman, incredible as Judge Turpin. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that's a great movie. It's got a. Speaking of stacked casts, it's. [00:30:30] Speaker B: It's very good. I mean, they did. They did their best with Helena Bottom Carter and Johnny Depp to make them passable singers. So it's. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Well, the way he decided to stage it is he made it like a chamber piece. He didn't make it like this big chorus musical. He made it like. [00:30:47] Speaker B: Yeah, he pared it down. So it's. It's not the best soundtrack to listen to if you want to listen to some Sweeney Todd. [00:30:53] Speaker A: But as a movie. [00:30:53] Speaker B: But as a movie, it's. It's good. [00:30:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I like Sasha Baron Cohen. [00:31:00] Speaker B: Sacha Baron Cohen does a great job as fucking the Barber Pirelli. Signor Pirelli. But, I mean, nothing. Nothing beats that. That. Oh, what is his name? The Angela Carter. Not Angela Carter. Fucking Angela Carter. Angela Lansbury and Lonnie Lou. [00:31:21] Speaker A: Lou Ferrigna. [00:31:22] Speaker B: Yeah, Lou Ferrigna, the incredible. [00:31:24] Speaker A: I don't remember the guy who played. It's like Lou Caribou or something. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Carolu or something. That's the soundtrack. You need to listen to that one with Angela Lance Bear. It's great. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Much like Phantom. Don't listen to the movie soundtrack. Listen to the Broadway or Canadian soundtrack. Thank you. It just annoys me when you search Phantom the Opera on itunes and it only brings up the first thing that pops up is the movie soundtrack. Like, people are listening to Gerard Butler this whole time. They could be listening to Michael Crawford or Wilkinson. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Go on, go on. Go off. [00:31:59] Speaker A: Yeah, go Off. I'm going off King. I'm a short king. [00:32:03] Speaker B: It's. It's. It's true. But, I mean, can you imagine the people that are upset when they search for Cats the musical, and the first thing that comes up is the movie? [00:32:12] Speaker A: No, that soundtrack's pretty good. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:32:14] Speaker A: They're all pretty much singers, and it's pretty. It's pretty good. The only one that really sucks is, like, Buster for Jones with James Corden. If anyone's not. If you're listening home, I'm doing the Jerk off motion. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Join. Join Johnny right now and doing it. [00:32:31] Speaker A: No, please. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Isn't. Idris Elba's in that, right? [00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:37] Speaker B: Is he. Is he a good singer? Man, I've never heard him sing. [00:32:40] Speaker A: He doesn't really sing. McCavity doesn't sing. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Okay, well, that's probably why they did him in that. In that role. [00:32:46] Speaker A: I know he's a dj. [00:32:49] Speaker B: I didn't know that. [00:32:50] Speaker A: I knew that because one time there was, like, this is, like, eight, seven, eight years ago, but he was, like, DJing an event he started. He dropped the James Bond theme. [00:32:57] Speaker B: Nice. [00:32:57] Speaker A: Everyone's like, he's gonna play James Bond. People were, like, freaking out, which would have been great, but he's probably too old now. He's definitely not too old to play James Bond. He's too old for them to cast him as James Bond. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:33:11] Speaker A: How old was Roger Moore? [00:33:15] Speaker B: I don't what. He was. He was 60. He was. He was also a 70s man, so he looked older than he actually was. [00:33:22] Speaker A: That's true. He's probably, like, 25. He was 50. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I. The. I think, yeah, he's too old for them to cast because they want to squeeze as much life out of it as possible. [00:33:35] Speaker A: Right. They want you to do, like, five movies now. So, like, they don't want to cast an old guy. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Although, I mean, it's. It would be a beautiful time to have a resurgence of the Pierce Brosnan James Bond, because that man has only gotten more gorgeous, and he is down to do anything for, like, 40 bucks. [00:33:54] Speaker A: That'd be sweet if he came back into James Bond. [00:33:56] Speaker B: He is in, like, everything right now. He's like, is there gonna be a paycheck? I don't care how much it is. I'm in. [00:34:04] Speaker A: I heard a story when he did Mamma Mia, he said he just. As an actor, he just always said he could do anything. And he said he figured out later. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:10] Speaker A: So when he, like, they asked to do Mamma Mia. They're like, can you sing? He was like, oh, absolutely. He had no idea how to sing. [00:34:18] Speaker B: He turned out pretty good, right? I haven't seen Mamma Mia, but I know it's. [00:34:22] Speaker A: No, no, the movie's great. He is very sweet and it's hilarious, but he's not a great singer. It's become like a. It's like a joke between me and Tom for a while. Just like Pierce Brosnan singing in that mov. It's very endearing. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Nice. [00:34:35] Speaker A: Let's say that. [00:34:36] Speaker B: Nice. Is it better than Johnny Depp in Sweeney Todd? [00:34:38] Speaker A: No. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Is it better than Gerard Butler and Phantom? Maybe. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Maybe. Interesting. Anyway, ABBA slaps, though, Johnny. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Yeah, ABBA slaps. I'm about to see fucking spooky ABBA tonight. David. That's ghost. [00:34:54] Speaker B: Spooky abba. Nice. [00:34:56] Speaker A: Ghost is just spooky abba. That's their secret. [00:34:59] Speaker B: They're going to open with Mamma Mia. Here I go again. [00:35:04] Speaker A: I mean, they did cover Marionette. [00:35:07] Speaker B: Who did that originally? [00:35:09] Speaker A: Abba. [00:35:10] Speaker B: Okay, nice. [00:35:12] Speaker A: I'm a marionette. Just a marionette. Pull the strings. [00:35:16] Speaker B: Nice. I didn't. [00:35:18] Speaker A: That was abba, baby. [00:35:19] Speaker B: I don't know a lot of ABBA songs, but I do know. So. [00:35:22] Speaker A: And it's a deep cut for them to cover. [00:35:24] Speaker B: Fun story. So I went to Las Vegas for the one and only time in my life so far when I was 17, so I could do fucking nothing. But my mom was going to a conference and they paid for her to bring her family with her. So we all went and there was a closing conference party, and they had an ABBA cover band played music for it. And it was fucking incredible. It was so good. I don't remember who it was, but if you're in Vegas and there's an ABBA cover band, go see them. [00:35:57] Speaker A: They have, like, ABBA holograms now, though. You don't have to see a cover band. It's like them, but holograms. [00:36:02] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's. That's paying for the actual ABBA show. And that's. [00:36:05] Speaker A: That's the. [00:36:06] Speaker B: This is. This is. This is the cheaper local option. Okay, okay, but speaking of local options, Johnny, we got a. We got Violator here trotting around, trotting around this little. This little local girl trying to get alms for a desperate woman. It's what led us to the tangent. [00:36:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I was like, how do we get here? [00:36:28] Speaker B: Jesus Christ, Johnny. We're 45 minutes into this thing. [00:36:32] Speaker A: We're on, like, the second page. [00:36:34] Speaker B: This is gonna Take us a week. [00:36:35] Speaker A: And my cell phone's not on silent. They just heard me get a text message. [00:36:40] Speaker B: You gotta. You gotta read it on air, Johnny. That's the. [00:36:42] Speaker A: I gotta go to a concert tonight. I have to read it on air. Let's see. [00:36:50] Speaker B: No, don't. Don't read it. Only if it's. Only. Only if it's saucy. If it's saucy, you get. [00:36:55] Speaker A: It's a little saucy. [00:36:57] Speaker B: If it says. If it says. Johnny, I need you to pick up some ketchup. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Or some mustard from Canada. [00:37:05] Speaker B: Hey, Johnny, I got some of this Chinese mustard. I need you to come. [00:37:08] Speaker A: No, get it away from me. [00:37:12] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. [00:37:13] Speaker A: So this is my kryptonite. [00:37:14] Speaker B: There's this little girl begging for. For. For money from the Violator. And in response, he just kicks her right in the face. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's crazy. He knocks her fucking tooth out. [00:37:24] Speaker B: And it says, the only kindness I have for you is a swift death. And then. And then as after he's. He's about to. He's about to start pummeling her with his cane while she's on the ground. And then he feels the disturbance of the force, Johnny. He looks behind, looks. There's just a whole bunch of hell spawns hanging out behind him in the street. [00:37:48] Speaker A: They're Plague Doctor hell spawns. [00:37:49] Speaker B: Plague Doctor hell spawns. And he's like, ah, shit, there's five of them. But I like those hunts. And then. And then while they're just standing there kind of in a good, the bad and the ugly style standoff, the little girl is like, Just like. Is like, you motherfucker. And attacks him and like, starts clawing at his face. [00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:13] Speaker B: And then he, He. He rips her away from him and gives her the old punt into the. The River Thames where she drowns. Unfortunately, said violator a bad guy. And then the violator is like, God damn it. I liked this suit. I liked this. This FOP suit here. [00:38:33] Speaker A: Now I gotta get scratched up his face. [00:38:35] Speaker B: And now he's pissed. Johnny. And so very soon after, there is a whoosh. And then Johnny the nun, three nuns. It's our classic. The reveal of the nun in other objects. And they just come out of this moat and they say, hellspawn, you dare show your faces here? [00:39:01] Speaker A: Hell sponsor seraphim. [00:39:04] Speaker B: And so then the seraphim, like, burn off their. Their. Their nun habits and just take on their full angel, you know, regalia, and just charge at the hell spawn with their fiery sword. And then Violet is like, oh, hey, actually, they aren't after me. Hell, yeah. They don't even know I'm here. [00:39:27] Speaker A: They don't even know nothing about me. So the plague guys unleash, like, chains, and they're. They're smacking and dragging. [00:39:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:34] Speaker A: The angels out of the air. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:36] Speaker A: And one of the angels, flaming swords. Falls at Violator's feet. He's like, I'll. I'll take that. [00:39:43] Speaker B: I'll take that action. He picks it up and it burns him. And he's like. [00:39:46] Speaker A: It burns him because it's of heaven. [00:39:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Clever creator. So I am more unworthy now than when you cast me aside. [00:39:53] Speaker A: And then one of the seraphim looks at Violator and says, what manner of man are you? [00:39:59] Speaker B: I am no man. [00:40:03] Speaker A: I am Basil. What? She recognizes him. [00:40:07] Speaker B: And then he, like, feel like vampire. [00:40:11] Speaker A: This is that name? Yeah. [00:40:12] Speaker B: He's like, yeah, it's Gloriana Johnny, his old. His old flame. Nothing like. Nothing like running into an ex in the middle of the. In the middle of town when you're at least expecting it. [00:40:25] Speaker A: And so he decides to help her and saves her from the hell spawn. [00:40:30] Speaker B: Yes. And then he calls, he says, you're a fool, Baz. A violator. And, gosh, he's gotten in his head, John. Started thinking about it. He started thinking of himself as his. As himself as he was instead, right? And, you know, he. He. He blocks some hellspawn chains from attacking Gloriana. Gloriana. And he repeats his previous threat to the hell spawn. And he's like, you really think these chains scare me? You do know I am their daddy, right? [00:41:02] Speaker A: Grabs them and whips the dude. Just snaps him. [00:41:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Just like, throws him across town into a house. And, you know, he's just hanging out there. He's still got the chains, and he's swinging the chains around, you know, make it all. All the while he's beating up. This hell spawn is basically being like, your boss. Lucifer is a bum. And then so he. He kills. He kills a couple more. A couple more hell spawns. And then he sees another one. He sees another one running towards Gloriana and he's like, don't do a violator. Don't you. Don't you fucking do a violator. This hellspawn tackles Gloriana and he's like, God damn it. And he steps in again and he's like, oh, fucking. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Am I actually facing a moral quandary? [00:41:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Then the head that he's ripped off of, the violator, he says, burn. [00:41:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Or the head that he's ripped off with a hellspawn in his hand. Just like erupts into flames. [00:42:02] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he's like, ah, this stupid human skin's so flammable. And so he just. He just runs denethors off the bridge into the. Into the sludge. It is. He says, Johnny. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Yep. [00:42:13] Speaker B: Actually, I guess it would be the scene seen since they're in France and not the tims. [00:42:19] Speaker A: Correct. You got your rivers wrong. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Got my rivers wrong. [00:42:21] Speaker A: I was gonna correct you, but I didn't. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm kidding. [00:42:24] Speaker A: I. I didn't. [00:42:26] Speaker B: And then when the violator surfaces up for air, we see the dead girl that he threw in there earlier. And he says, I hate skin shopping. [00:42:36] Speaker A: And then the angels spot him and they're shooting heaven fire at him. He's like, I'm outta here. [00:42:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's jawsing away with his big fin above the water. And he's like, these stupid humans are so fragile, but, ah, they do have a penchant for urban design. And he crawls his way into a sewer and he's like, it looks dark and frightening down here. Delightful. He's a little. He's a. He's a cellar dweller, Johnny. He's the original CHUD. [00:43:13] Speaker A: He is a chud. [00:43:14] Speaker B: He is. And so the. The Paris. The Paris sewers are all filled with all kinds of bones. Very exciting. [00:43:23] Speaker A: And he's conflicted. He's like, okay, I gotta process this. I saw Gloriana. I haven't seen her in a long time. But no, I'm not torn. She cast me aside. She means nothing to me. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like, enough of this. Enough of this wallowing of my own self pity. He's like, I gotta find a new suit. [00:43:43] Speaker A: So he goes to the streets of Paris to look for a human to kill through the grave sewer. [00:43:49] Speaker B: He pulls a Pennywise. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Pennywise? [00:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:51] Speaker A: He just says Pennywise. [00:43:53] Speaker B: He sees a drunkard and he's like, hey, hey. Hey, you. Hey. Come here. He says, care to lend me a hand? This drunk guy's just like, how'd you get down there? What are you doing in there, buddy? [00:44:06] Speaker A: This guy kind of looks like you too. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Yeah, kinda, except the bald. The bald? Yeah. So as I. [00:44:11] Speaker A: Cause you're not bald. [00:44:12] Speaker B: As I lose my hair, but keep the long in the back. Give myself a nice little skullet. I'm gonna look like this guy. [00:44:18] Speaker A: He drags him Pennywise style into the sewer grate. [00:44:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And he says, much better. It's not a perfect fit, but I'll make do. [00:44:28] Speaker A: This little kid picks up apple corn, says, maybe I can make some soup with this. [00:44:34] Speaker B: It's so sad, Johnny. It's like. It's like that old Disney cartoon from the Depression where it's Donald, Mickey and Goofy living together. And they. They slice the bread so thin that you can see through it. And then it, like, blows away in the way. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Is that where they eat a shoe? [00:44:51] Speaker B: No, it's. It's a bread. It's a slice of bread. Is there. [00:44:54] Speaker A: There's somewhere where someone eats a shoe? [00:44:55] Speaker B: I'm. Yeah, I'm sure there's lots. Because, I mean, you know, shoes used to be made out of. It used to be all leather. And if you boiled the leather enough, you could basically eat it. Like nasty beef jerky. So people used to do it all the time. [00:45:08] Speaker A: They see their shoes, their shoes. [00:45:10] Speaker B: That's what they do. That's what they did in a lot of Civil war camps during the winters, especially for the. Like, the prisoner camps. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Boiled leather. [00:45:23] Speaker B: They boiled the leather out of their shoes. So. Yeah. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Yummy. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't, Johnny. A, number one, don't ever go to war. B, don't ever get captured in war. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't plan on. I like people who don't get captured. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So this little kid who's thinking about his mom making soup bed of his apple core. Runs right into the violator. And the violator is like a child. You best look where you leap. Or who knows what manner of horror you could face. And he basically gives, like, a Beetlejuice face. [00:46:01] Speaker A: He loses the meme face. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And this little child is so frightened, he pisses himself. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Yep. [00:46:09] Speaker B: Right there in the street. And then runs away without. Without taking the ample core with him. So no soup for you, then. [00:46:16] Speaker A: The spawn's just doing some good work. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yep. He's being the doctor. [00:46:20] Speaker A: He's doing some leeches on this guy. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, gross. But then the hell spawn senses the violin, says the violator is here somewhere. And it's just like walking around looking for the violator. And is wondering whether he should summon his brothers or not. But he says, no, I must be certain. And then Johnny, it's too late for him to call because the violator gets the drop on him. And this abandoned building, he just rips. [00:46:49] Speaker A: This fucking hellspawn's arms off. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Yeah, just. Just rip. And then he starts. He starts questioning him. And he's like, what do you hellspawns want from me? And he's like, we're not. We're not here for you. And then he's like, ah, so the Seraphim are who you're after. What kind of mischief are they up to? [00:47:05] Speaker A: He says, look, we're just here to spoil their mission. We don't know their true plans. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he asks for mercy. And the Violator says, hmm, let me think about it. No. And just like, just like flame breaths him like basically. Basically does the cartoon version of burps in his face till the guy dies. And so then the Violator is stuck then with. He's like, so the Seraphim are here to do a mission. The hell spawn are there to mess it up. But what's the mission? What is the point? And then he's like, well, you know. [00:47:42] Speaker A: For me to be a fly in the ointment. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Yeah. He says, you know, that's what I do best. And I'll bring them pain. And he's like, but first things first. I need another suit. So we are on suit number three for the issue, Johnny. [00:47:56] Speaker A: Suit number three, he's just blowing through it. [00:47:58] Speaker B: He's like a. He's like a 12 year old boy running around just messing up his clothes. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Yep. And he sees a dying woman. [00:48:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:09] Speaker A: He says she's nearby and dying. A perfect combination. [00:48:12] Speaker B: He ain't too picky. So he captures her. He takes her skin. He says the female of the species is a different fit. So many moving parts. Not entirely unpleasant though. He says, do I look pretty and witty and gay? What a pity for all the girls who aren't him. Tonight. [00:48:42] Speaker A: Looks terrifying. [00:48:42] Speaker B: This is such a musical happy episode, Johnny. That's weird. It happens. It's Friday, so. And he could. He can still feel the. He can still feel the hellspawn following him. All the ones that are left. And then he passes by a group of men who start catcalling at him. And he's like. He says, oh, what's that? Yes. Oh, yes. No, you boys are mistaken. I am. I am no lady love of yours. I am your nightmare. And just like Edward scissorhands them. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:19] Speaker B: And fucks up. Fucks up yet another suit of skin Johnny. So he's got a. He's gotta run away to an alley and dispose of this ruined skin suit. And then note to self, remember to try another woman suit sometime. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Alright? There's a non binary. [00:49:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. [00:49:43] Speaker A: He's equal opportunity, equal opportunity skin suit wear. [00:49:48] Speaker B: And so he's like, okay, this is enough. I can't just wander around and keep hoping that the hellspawn are following me. I gotta get to a higher vantage point. Point. See if I can see what's going on. So he climbs up a building and then gets to a roof and is like. Is disappointed and is like, oh, these angels, always on the goddamn nose. They're working out of a chapel or a cathedral. [00:50:12] Speaker A: They're just working out of a goddamn cathedral. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Not. Not just any cathedral, Johnny. [00:50:16] Speaker A: Notre Dame. [00:50:17] Speaker B: The cathedral with the bells. The bells of Notre Dame. [00:50:25] Speaker A: I don't know that movie that well. It wasn't part of my rotation. [00:50:27] Speaker B: Me, either. I mean, I watched it a lot, but I just don't remember Merry Money in the songs. All I know. All I remember. [00:50:34] Speaker A: I don't know any of the songs. [00:50:35] Speaker B: Paris, the city of lovers Is glowing this evening True. Because it's on fire. It's fun. It's fun. And then there's a big. The. The sky is split with a thunderbolt. Lightning. And then just a deluge of rain, which cannot even clean the city, Johnny. It just makes the filth float to the surface. [00:51:02] Speaker A: This kid's looking out the window and he goes, mama, I see the devil. [00:51:05] Speaker B: Yeah. He's doing the classic. The classic Dark Knight Returns Batman pose. And the lightning. [00:51:11] Speaker A: That's awesome. I noticed that. [00:51:13] Speaker B: He's just having. He's just having fun. The violator. He. He. The violator. And this issue specifically reminds me of Kronk and the Emperor's new groove as he's got Kuzco's body in the bag and he's going to dispose him, and he's just like. [00:51:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:51:30] Speaker B: We're sneaking around, dancing around and singing. Great. It's great. [00:51:37] Speaker A: Then we shift perspective. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yes. And we are. In Gloriana's mind. She's always been a lawyer soldier, Johnny, ever since the dawn of time. Never questioned her creator's motives. Yet something feels amiss. This mission. Is it to test her devotion? Is it actually worth her. Worth her while? She's not sure. And then she's like, did the Creator know that Basil would be here? Yeah. While she's lost in thought, somebody comes up and puts a hand on her. And she says, you dare? Who dare? And it's just one of her lieutenants. She's got her flaming sword at his throat. And she's like, sorry. Sorry. I'm. I'm a little overwhelmed. And he says, no worries. The Creator would never give you anything you couldn't handle. [00:52:28] Speaker A: He's like, I need a moment. [00:52:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And so she. She jumps down to the ground and is just standing in the rain, continuing to do a little bit of thinking. But now she is where the violator can see her. And he is just like. He's among the grotesques around the. [00:52:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's like the fan of the opera, hanging out behind Apollo's lyre. [00:52:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And then she says, the Fate of Basil. No, what is it he calls himself now? The Violator. And then there's some lightning. And the violator is illuminated on this whole splash page. And he just goes, gloriana. [00:53:05] Speaker A: And he looks sad. [00:53:06] Speaker B: He looks like he's not only him, but like that. That gargoyle next to him looks so sad too. It's sad. It's sad. [00:53:14] Speaker A: It's like he's longing for her. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Yeah, well, they were. They were. They were literally made for each other. [00:53:21] Speaker A: Soulmates. I know. [00:53:24] Speaker B: And she. She. She sees something. She's like, who's there? And the violet is like, who? And he just appears. And she's like, ah, nothing. Jumping. [00:53:35] Speaker A: And so violators scoping out this. The chapel, the cathedral. And there's three angels in there. [00:53:40] Speaker B: Yeah, four. It's four of them. [00:53:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:47] Speaker B: He doesn't. He doesn't count to four yet, though. He just. He just trails off. And he's like, do I simply destroy them or torture them first? I agree. Torture first. He gets this big grin on his face when he's thinking about torture. He's like, torture. Yeah, he's a bit of a sadist, this Violator. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Yeah, he's a sicko. He's a Hollywood sicko. [00:54:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And so. So Gloriana says, something's not right. And then one of the angels is just sitting around in the corner reading a book. And I was like, I don't sense anything, Gloriana says. And you do even less. Come on. Come on, lazy angel. And so. So obviously these angels aren't paying attention to their leader. And Violator picks up on that. He's like this engine in the ranks, huh? But then all of the candles get blown out and the hell spawn. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Hell spawn arrive. Our plague doctor. Hell spawn's looking cool. [00:54:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And they show up like. They show up like, glow in the dark. And they're just like, approaching the angels. And Violeta's like, ooh, it will be fun to watch these angels of these hellspawn fuck each other up. Let's do it. And then he's like, eh, nah, never mind. Who am I kidding? [00:55:10] Speaker A: I wanna have some fun too. [00:55:11] Speaker B: And he, like, breathes a big fireball and the. And the fight begins, Johnny. The fight between the Hellspawn and the Seraphim. With Violator just going around Fucking shit up on the edge. [00:55:26] Speaker A: He's like, this feels very familiar. [00:55:28] Speaker B: It's like, where have I seen this before? When have angels and hell people fought each other? [00:55:34] Speaker A: And they're just like angels choking out one of the hell spawns. They're stabbing them. [00:55:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:40] Speaker A: They hit him with, like, a flaming mace. [00:55:42] Speaker B: Yeah. He's just Violators just, like, standing there on the side, just like, with his little. [00:55:48] Speaker A: This is so funny. He goes, do I wait? Do I jump in? Do I wait? Do I jump in? [00:55:52] Speaker B: And then Gloriana comes up and says, you, Basil. And then the hell spawns are like, that's it. That's it. That's it. Outcasts distract seraphim. [00:56:03] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:04] Speaker B: When I bring back her head back to Lucifer, I will be celebrating. But then he does, like, a binding. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Spell and binds her to the. Binds her and chain shootout. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Yeah. He's got. He's got, like, the Cenobite style style binding spell where it's hooks on chains that shoot out and tie you down. [00:56:23] Speaker A: And this is just her face there. Just shows John Wayshak's just really cool, exaggerated style. [00:56:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Her mouth just, like, open and distended in pain. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. The art's great in this. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah. It's so good. [00:56:39] Speaker A: Everything just feels sickly. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Violator. Violator says, okay, now remember, Hellspawn, you made me do this. He picks up Gloriana's dropped sword, and even though it burns him and burns him, he slices the head off of the hellspawn who bound Gloria. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Pretty fucking awesome. [00:56:57] Speaker B: Says, you talk too much. And then he untangles Gloriana, and she's like, but why are you aiding me? [00:57:06] Speaker A: It's crazy how he does, though. He skewers the head like a fucking cocktail olive. [00:57:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Skewers into the wall. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Rips away. He rips it off. He didn't cut it off. [00:57:14] Speaker B: That's a. He's. He's long and he's gangly, but, man, he got some strength in those. Those are some dense muscles, Johnny. And then one of the angels says, they are gone, General. And Gloriana says, as is the last piece of my heart. [00:57:31] Speaker A: Aw. [00:57:33] Speaker B: And then the final page is the Violator distraught in a graveyard, so upset. Yeah. He's crying and he says, damn you, creator. Damn you for reminding me what you took from. And damn me for somehow still caring. [00:57:52] Speaker A: He's crying over someone like her. [00:57:59] Speaker B: He's done crap. [00:58:02] Speaker A: That's the song I'm looking forward to the most. I think it's good. It's a good song for Send a Cenotaph. I hope they play that. It wasn't a single, so they might not, but I imagine they will. I hope they don't play Ms. Omori. I think that song sucks. I think that's arguably the ghost's worst song is Misle Omori. [00:58:24] Speaker B: Probably. Well, you know, at least. At least you got square hammer to look forward to. [00:58:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:34] Speaker B: No way. They're not playing square hammer. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. But that. With the sad scene of the violator just in love and in torment, in anguish, screaming the heavens ends the issue. [00:58:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Poor Vayu. Poor Violady. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Poor Violety. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:59] Speaker A: Using the ladies scanning as a violady. [00:59:03] Speaker B: I would say Lady Violator, but we've already got an actual lady violator, Johnny. It's Viscerator, his sister. [00:59:10] Speaker A: That's true. [00:59:12] Speaker B: I still. I'm still waiting for them to have the vivisector. [00:59:16] Speaker A: Vivisector, man. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just thinking of the vacillator now. And the violator was a little vacillatory there at the end of this issue. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Should I get. Should I go? Should I wait? Should I go? [00:59:27] Speaker B: Oh, man, I fucking love the Fleabiac brothers. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah, they're fun. Then like the other Violators. We get the inks. You get like three or four pages of some of the inks. [00:59:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So you can see the beauty of the art even before the colors go on it. So that the colors are just accentuating. They aren't covering anything up, Johnny. [00:59:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. This is the process that they make comics. [00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:55] Speaker A: You do this and someone comes in and colors it. It's just crazy. [00:59:58] Speaker B: Yeah. It's insane. So much talent. They've stolen all the talent from the NBA players, Johnny, to make this book. [01:00:11] Speaker A: The Monstars did. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah, the monsters. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Oh, no, I hate those Monstars. [01:00:18] Speaker B: Then we get that. Yeah. [01:00:19] Speaker A: No, it's just really cool to see all the detail. I love the. The final panel here. [01:00:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:23] Speaker A: They included that. And just like this, it reminds me of. Are you afraid of the dark? [01:00:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:31] Speaker A: When it's just an ink like this. Those black and white like his especially like the close up on the faces. [01:00:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Or like a lot of. A lot of those, like teen horror books. Like early teen horror books. Like the sort of a step between the Goosebumps to Stephen King. To Stephen King. They've got like the beginning of the chapter has some sort of almost like Woodblock style illustration kind of what's have to happen. Clive Barker used to do that a lot with his younger reader books. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Okay. [01:01:09] Speaker B: You ever read the Thief of Always by Clive Barker? Joni? [01:01:12] Speaker A: No. [01:01:12] Speaker B: It's fantastic. It's one of those books that you, as a person who reads, you can get it. You can knock it out in like an hour and a half, two hours. It's great. It's great. It's kind of like a fucked up version of the Phantom Tollbooth. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Okay. [01:01:29] Speaker B: Like, if the Phantom Tollbooth weren't just wonderful and wholesome and full of all sorts of whimsy, it would be the Thief. [01:01:36] Speaker A: Okay. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Because it's Clive Barker. You know, there's nothing happy about a Clive Barker story. [01:01:43] Speaker A: No, usually not. [01:01:44] Speaker B: Usually not. We get the new generation, new stories, new U. AD yes, yes, indeed. [01:01:52] Speaker A: Image Classics AD. [01:01:55] Speaker B: And then that is Violator Origins number three. [01:02:02] Speaker A: There it was. There it's Plague Doctor Dark Ages Glory. [01:02:08] Speaker B: It's fantastic. Fantastic. [01:02:11] Speaker A: Well, Johnny, a lot of fun. [01:02:12] Speaker B: There's a lot of. There's a lot of rats in this issue, Johnny. [01:02:15] Speaker A: But no, there's a lot of rats. [01:02:21] Speaker B: But no dogs, so. But interestingly, they're eating the dogs. [01:02:26] Speaker A: It's the Dark Ages. They're eating all the dogs. [01:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. But interesting enough, Johnny, do you know what a baby rat is called? [01:02:35] Speaker A: A puppy. [01:02:36] Speaker B: It is a pup. So let's rate these puppies. [01:02:39] Speaker A: Oh, let's rate these rats. [01:02:43] Speaker B: Rating the rats. [01:02:47] Speaker A: All right, so we have one issue today. It was Violator Number three. [01:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Violator Origins, number three. I love the Plague Doctor design on the spawns. Like, it's really cool, really inventive. [01:02:59] Speaker B: We need an action figure of it stat. [01:03:00] Speaker A: We need an action figure. I love the setting of this issue. And just like the story of the angels versus the plague Dr. Hellspawns, it's just like really exciting battles and gives Violier some fun room to run around and do some crazy shenanigans with the skin suits. I love it. The art is creepy and sinewy and, like exaggerated, but very in your face, but just really tells the story very well. You just get the evil, the skins, the different skin suits of the Violator. Each one's very memorable and creepy when you see his face underneath it. [01:03:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:49] Speaker A: And it's just fun. I'm going to give it. I'm gonna give it five apple core soups. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Ooh, five apple core soups. [01:03:57] Speaker A: Yep. Five out of five. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Nice. That's filling. Very filling. I agree, Johnny. So first off, when you think of a miniseries for a character being six issues long, you wonder about the length of the number of issues. If there's gonna be like, Any doldrums in there going on? So far? No doldrums. No doldrums at all. Each issue has just been bam, bam, bam. This issue is no different. It's. It's fun. There's not. There's not a lot of repeat action. I mean, obviously there's the intentional. I've seen. I've seen these people have this fight before, but it's not just the fight. It's sort of a commentary on what, are they just hanging out forever? Just endlessly fighting each other? I like how the. In every other issue of Violator we've ever. Or with the Violator we've ever read, the Violator is always so very sure. I mean, I guess Violator origins number one is the beginning. Doubt. But issue two, he's sure of himself. All of the original Violator miniseries, he's sure of himself. Every time we see him in Spawn, he knows exactly who the fuck he is. This is the first time we've ever seen the Violator as Violator. Be like, fucking, what the fuck? Why am I. Why am I like this? How did I do this? Is this not the way I should be? And yeah, it's. It's fun because you don't. You know, makes the Violator much more sympathetic, which is. It's weird to be sympathetic with this obviously nasty individual. Right. Like, we love him as a character because he's nasty and unrepentant and makes a whole bunch of bad dad jokes. But now we can also like him because, like, we see him wrestling with these same things that everybody wrestles with. Like, is this. Is this who I am meant to be? Wait, hold on a sec. It's. Yeah, it's fantastic. [01:06:06] Speaker A: Just like, the art really sells his anguish. [01:06:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:06:11] Speaker A: You got so much work to. You can do so much with those eyes and that jaw and, like, just seeing him be sad. We've never seen that. [01:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Because the Violator is not a sad boy, but yet he is a sad boy. It's also fun to see him, you know, trying on different kinds of skin suits that he hasn't tried. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought that was a fun. [01:06:28] Speaker B: Little through line, maybe like. Like thinking for future. Future adventures he's gonna have. But yeah, the art also with. So the writing, fucking top notch. It's great. The art, fucking top notch. It is great. This is like, when you think of 14th century France, you just think of filth, grime, and this art is just pure filth. It is pure grime. It is. It is so good. It Is so well suited. Fucking love it. I'm gonna give it five skulls in the sewers, Johnny. Five sewer skulls. Which means. [01:07:13] Speaker A: I love it. [01:07:14] Speaker B: What does that mean? [01:07:15] Speaker A: It's a member of the Hellfire Club. [01:07:16] Speaker B: It's a Hellfire Club member. Yeah. [01:07:17] Speaker A: We both gave it five out of five. [01:07:19] Speaker B: Yeah. If. If you're listening and haven't already started reading the Violator origin series, you should get on it. It's just. It is so good. Yeah, yeah. [01:07:29] Speaker A: It's a good place to start. [01:07:30] Speaker B: It's a very good place to start. And you know what else is a very good place to start, Johnny? [01:07:35] Speaker A: The Internet. [01:07:35] Speaker B: The Internet. [01:07:36] Speaker A: I don't know if it's a good place. I don't know if that's true, though. [01:07:37] Speaker B: I don't know if it's a good place. I mean, it's naturally the place that everybody starts with anything now, but. [01:07:42] Speaker A: Yes, it's true. [01:07:43] Speaker B: But Instagram is a great place to start getting into the spawn community. [01:07:50] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Absolutely. It's a great spawn community. I would say go Instagram over Reddit, because everybody at Instagram is much happier to be there. [01:07:59] Speaker A: Yes. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Not to poo poo too much on Reddit, but everybody knows Reddit. [01:08:04] Speaker A: I'll poo poo on fucking Reddit. [01:08:06] Speaker B: No, here's all about fucking Reddit. [01:08:08] Speaker A: They killed. No, they've killed the niche message board. [01:08:14] Speaker B: Okay? Yeah. [01:08:15] Speaker A: And everyone just goes to Reddit and it's so annoying. Everyone's trying to be fucking funny and get upvotes and like, like, Discord is a little. Has brought some of that back and find the right Discord community. That's actually usually really cool, but, like, Reddit just fucking sucks. What a bunch of nerds. [01:08:32] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. There's a. There's. There's some decent individuals on Reddit, but what is loudest is always the negativity, and it's very hard to be there for any amount of time. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Right? [01:08:47] Speaker B: You can. You can. If you dig, you can get the information. [01:08:51] Speaker A: No, it's good for, like, finding quick information, but. [01:08:53] Speaker B: But usually it's somebody being like, you're so fucking stupid that you don't know this already, bud. It's like, come on. [01:09:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:03] Speaker B: But, yeah, Instagram's a great place to get into that spawn unity, Johnny. And this week, we want to shout out a pal Vodlines. So, you know, this is kind of a very quick and easy way into the spawn immunity. Not that they're heavy on the spawn, but they're very spooky and they. They've got Some fantastic art. And it's just fun. And they're fun. And they. They have some. They have some great character pieces of. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Got some gunslinger. I'm looking at spawn characters. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah, they've got a gunslinger. They've got things that. That we hold dear to our heart. Johnny Cad Bane. Probably. Probably my favorite Star wars character. Non Droid. Star wars character. Really? Yeah. [01:09:51] Speaker A: I love Kid Boba Fett. I love. He says Boba frat. [01:09:58] Speaker B: I also like. Oh, what's his name? The pirate. Basically. Pussy. [01:10:03] Speaker A: Oh, Hondo. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Hondo. I love Honda. [01:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah, Honda's great. [01:10:07] Speaker B: Honda's. That was wonderful. I think he's voiced by the guy who does the Puss in Boots voice for the television shows. [01:10:15] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:10:17] Speaker B: But no, Cad Bane is. Cad Bane is great. Cad Bane is what I want Clint Eastwood to be because he's based off of Clint Eastwood. [01:10:25] Speaker A: I think he's based off Lee Van Cleef. [01:10:26] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:10:28] Speaker A: Maybe both. [01:10:28] Speaker B: Maybe both. But I like Cad Bane. I like a bounty hunter. [01:10:35] Speaker A: Lee Van Cleef is cool. You ever seen a Lee Van Cleef Western? [01:10:39] Speaker B: I have not, no. He's always. [01:10:40] Speaker A: He's the bad guy in. He's the. He's the thin one in Good, the Bad and the Ugly. [01:10:47] Speaker B: That I haven't seen yet. Still. [01:10:51] Speaker A: So good. [01:10:52] Speaker B: I need to. I need to get on that. I need to get on that. Jeez. I really need to get on that. [01:10:57] Speaker A: Those Italian Westerns, man, they got something to them. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Makes me want spaghetti. But. But yeah, Vodlines. They've got some great artwork. Go give them a follow. They do good shit. [01:11:10] Speaker A: While you're there, give us a follow. [01:11:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we do good shit sometimes. [01:11:13] Speaker A: Occasionally. Yeah, I do. I've had a crisis of faith with Instagram. Kind of been staying away from social media. Today I vowed to do a social media post the episode, and I will just gotta get back into it. You know how it goes. [01:11:25] Speaker B: I mean, I did the same thing on my personal page, which is just heavens pictures of my dogs, but I invest too much in it, I think. And it takes an emotional toll on me every time I do an Instagram post. And sometimes I just don't have the emotional capital available to me to do something like that. [01:11:45] Speaker A: I agree. But we'll be posting more. And if I ever get reach out to us on dm, if I ever. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Get up to date on my current issues of Spawn, I could start doing a quick review the day an issue drops again. But I got a 30 to get through. [01:12:04] Speaker A: Only 30. [01:12:05] Speaker B: Only 30. Only 30. There's a lot of. [01:12:07] Speaker A: There's a lot of Spawn. [01:12:09] Speaker B: There may be a lot of Spawn, Johnny, but there is only one Lonnie Bones who is out there making music for this, the world's best Spawn podcast. [01:12:17] Speaker A: That's right. [01:12:17] Speaker B: And so you should. You need to search out that Lonnie Bones. Lonnie Bones music. Just Google it. He's awesome. He's great. Yep. [01:12:25] Speaker A: And while you're googling or on the Internet, make sure to hit us up on email at. Regarding spawnpodmail.com. [01:12:31] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Each week I like to ask a question to spur, you know, discussion. I was just like, what. I want to know what you think of plague doctors. I think they're scary. They're cool. I think they're steampunk. I just like the design. I like the design. I know it's the function of it. I know there's something. [01:12:52] Speaker B: It's. It's. It allowed there to be. So basically, it's small hole opening for breathing through. And then they could also pack it with herbs or like. Like materials to sort of act as a proto filter before they really understood filtering technology. [01:13:11] Speaker A: And it helped maintain social distance. [01:13:13] Speaker B: Social distance, yeah. But large, largely. It was used as a way to breathe safely. [01:13:21] Speaker A: Okay, well, I'm just curious. What do you think of the Plague Doctor? You ever gone as a plague doctor for Halloween? [01:13:26] Speaker B: I haven't, but I would probably someone has. Yeah. Plague Doctor. It's great. It's a great design. [01:13:31] Speaker A: It's a classic. [01:13:32] Speaker B: Fantastic. And it is a great adaptation to a hell Spawn. [01:13:38] Speaker A: You know, hit us up on email with anything, anything you want to say, anything. [01:13:43] Speaker B: And if you don't want us to say it on the podcast, say, hey, don't say this on the podcast. [01:13:47] Speaker A: If you do, say, okay to print and we'll read it on air, but. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Otherwise, we like to share your message. Please use us as a platform to get across your thoughts about Spawn. [01:13:57] Speaker A: Speaking of platforms, for thoughts about spaun, why don't we do this again on this platform we have, which is the. [01:14:03] Speaker B: Internet, where we talk about spaun? Yeah, well, Johnny, I got a. I got a problem with that. Why don't we talk about something from Spawn's universe that doesn't have Spawn himself in it in any way, shape or form? [01:14:18] Speaker A: That's fine with me. And that's an ever growing field of issues. It's been expanding. [01:14:22] Speaker B: I'm a little tired of this Albert Simmons. He's. [01:14:25] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:14:26] Speaker B: He's being a little bit of a. [01:14:28] Speaker A: Actually, I feel like Albert Simmons has been kind of back he's, like, on the back burner. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah, he's very. Been back burnered. He's. He's. We're dealing with. We're dealing with more of the universe than the Spawn himself. [01:14:41] Speaker A: That's true. He's. He's a man lost in his own creation. [01:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I guess he really is only. He's really only like, King Spawn main time King Spawn. [01:14:48] Speaker A: He's front and center. But mainline Spawn, like, even that is, like, focusing on, like, the government and, like, other people right now. And, like, he's just kind of like, stuff's happening around him. [01:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah. But interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah, Interesting. Okay. [01:15:06] Speaker A: Well. Okay, let's do it. Let's do two of our favorites. [01:15:08] Speaker B: Let's do. We gotta. [01:15:09] Speaker A: We gotta catch up with Rat City. [01:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah, we have. [01:15:12] Speaker A: Let's do those. Absolutely. [01:15:13] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. I fucking love Rat City. I fucking love Salmon Twitch. I love Rat City Salmon Twitch episodes. [01:15:20] Speaker A: They're always fun. [01:15:21] Speaker B: I really. I really hope y' all listeners out there love a Salmon Twitch Rat City episode as much as we love making them. Because, boy. Boy howdy. Every. Every time. Every time we read a really good issue, there's always the can't wait to talk about this issue tomorrow thing. And invariably, there's always the good Spawn for tomorrow talk. When we got the Rat City, we got Rat City. We got to see the fallout of Twitch having that. That bad. That bad handgun. [01:15:53] Speaker A: I know. [01:15:54] Speaker B: We gotta see about that fallout of. [01:15:56] Speaker A: You know, Peter getting his ass kicked. [01:15:59] Speaker B: Peter getting his ass kicked. And basically being taken over by the spirit of Spawn. So I guess maybe a little bit of Albert's. [01:16:08] Speaker A: A little bit. [01:16:08] Speaker B: A little bit. A little bit. And I don't think I've actually read the Rat City yet once yet. So it's all gonna be new. Actually, I don't think I've read either of these. [01:16:17] Speaker A: Oh, boy, I haven't. [01:16:20] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, let's do that. So find yourself issue 12s of Rat City and Salmon Twitch. Give them a read and come back and listen to them. Listen to us talk about them. [01:16:30] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do it. [01:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. Well, Johnny, I would not have classified this as the worst of times. I would have classified this as the best of times. But I would, too, Unfortunately. Usually that means that I'm at a loss for words. Because I like to just bask in the good times. So let's have this good time and bring it to an end with a May the scorched Boy. [01:17:01] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:17:02] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:17:03] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. I'll be basking in the moment, in the good times tonight. Because Ghost makes you put your phone in a special bag or locks during the show. [01:17:12] Speaker B: Heresy. [01:17:14] Speaker A: That's for me. Heresy. So I can't send you a video, David. I'm sorry. [01:17:18] Speaker B: That's fine. You'll have to paint me a word picture afterward. [01:17:24] Speaker A: Okay. I'll. I'll do a tone poem. [01:17:27] Speaker B: Okay. That sounds good. I want you to. I want you to sing every song. Like a. Like a little snippet of each song in order of how they played it. [01:17:38] Speaker A: Okay. [01:17:39] Speaker B: And then. And then bring it here and sing it for the group next time. [01:17:44] Speaker A: Okay. Start with peace. Feel. [01:17:46] Speaker B: 5. Five minutes of Johnny singing. You'll have to tell me if they've done anything new, like, any new songs they haven't yet released, because I have a feeling that would be very. [01:17:55] Speaker A: I don't know. We'll see. [01:17:56] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. Very exciting. Excited to hear about it. [01:18:02] Speaker A: I'm excited to go. I love to go to Ghost. [01:18:08] Speaker B: You go to Ghost, Sam.