Episode 115 - Rat City 6 and Sam and Twitch Case Files 6

[00:00:00] Speaker A: I'm sorry, Bobby, but Al's a hero. Don't you think you should get some good press out of this? [00:00:06] Speaker B: Excuse me, gentlemen, your mics are still on. Crap. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Good evening and welcome to the Malbols. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:52] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, I did a little Google. I googled a little bit right now. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Oh yeah, you're googling yourself. [00:01:02] Speaker B: I Google, wouldn't you like to know? No, I googled Rat City and one of the top image searches that comes up is that fucking this alley has been treated for rats poster that's all over town. [00:01:16] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:01:17] Speaker B: The scary ass rat with the crosshairs on its face. [00:01:20] Speaker A: So we live in Rat City, you're saying? We do, actually, because Chicago is the number one rattiest city in the nation. [00:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. Congratulations, Johnny. We did it. [00:01:30] Speaker A: I don't see him that often anymore. [00:01:32] Speaker B: I saw a couple of dead ones. [00:01:34] Speaker A: I see a lot of dead ones. I haven't seen like one in a while. Around my. The storefront down. The storefront below me used to be empty and there used to be a ton of rats down there. Now there's a store in there and like, you know, whatever. I don't really see them too often. [00:01:48] Speaker B: I often see more rabbits than I do. [00:01:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I see a lot of rabbits. I also don't walk my dog a lot because my dog died, but he used to find rats. [00:02:00] Speaker B: I mean, that's what they're good for. I mean, the only times I've really seen rats are those rare times where I'm like awakened out on the streets at 3am oh yeah. Cause that's when they. It's just usually, usually I'm out of it at 3am I turn into a pumpkin at like 9:30, like my mom. [00:02:16] Speaker A: Well, as we discovered last week, David, I'm always at a bar and my brat fall. So I'm always. [00:02:23] Speaker B: You're in your, your Bukowski era where you've just got. That's your bar stool. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, man. [00:02:33] Speaker B: I saw a Bukowski documentary. We actually watched it in a class in college and they were talking to his last wife, which I think was his fourth or fifth wife. And she was like, yeah, it wasn't too bad of a night. He had only had four bottles of wine and it was. Whoa, four bottles of wine isn't too much. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Jesus, that makes my head hurt. [00:02:56] Speaker B: He then proceeded to kick her with his barefoot and his long toenails during the middle of the interview, so. Oh, not a. Not a great guy. Bukowski. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Weird. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Don't know if you know this, but he was kind of a terrible human. [00:03:10] Speaker A: I don't know much about him. No, he wrote some good. [00:03:13] Speaker B: He wrote some. He wrote some good poems. But he was a nasty man, as we say. [00:03:18] Speaker A: Happens to a lot of the great poets. Did he. [00:03:25] Speaker B: Fucking Garth Brooks. Peaman. What's P. Man's name? R. Kelly. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Oh, P Man. That's the least of what he did have. [00:03:34] Speaker B: I told you the story of a co worker I had once whose brother is a real estate agent in town. And the bank had foreclosed on R. Kelly's recording studio. And he went in there and, like, all of his stuff was still in there. And. And, you know, this guy called up my co worker and was like, hey, they're telling us we can take stuff out of this studio if you want. Do you want anything? There's this really cool chair. And so my ex. Coworker still has R. Kelly's fucking recording studio chair in his goddamn house. [00:04:09] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:04:10] Speaker B: Children live in that house, Johnny. I. I don't. I don't think it's safe. But he doesn't believe in God. [00:04:15] Speaker A: That belongs with the Warrens and their fucking. Their cavalcade of horrors. [00:04:20] Speaker B: It is to get blessed by a priest every week. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Wow. [00:04:25] Speaker B: RIP Warrens. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Rip to the Warrens. Except for the fictional Warrens, which. There's another one that's filming. [00:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Coming out. It's coming out next year or 2020 next year. [00:04:35] Speaker A: It's already been filming, so I don't think it takes that long. [00:04:38] Speaker B: I also saw that Insidious 6 is coming out. Did I. Did I miss a couple incidents? I thought there were only the two. There's apparently. [00:04:48] Speaker A: No, there's a lot more than two. [00:04:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I've only seen the two. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Remember. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:53] Speaker A: One came out a couple years ago with the ghost song that Patrick Wilson directed. Remember? And he sang on the song. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't watch. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Or was that sinister? [00:05:02] Speaker B: That was. That was one of. One of those is Insidious, the one with Patrick Wilson. Insidious does have. Yeah. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Then that. There's at least like four or five because that one came out with a song. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Oh, the. The. The Red Room is what it was. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:15] Speaker B: Right. Okay. Okay. [00:05:17] Speaker A: I just only know it because of the ghost song, which was a banger. It was a cover, but it was really good. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah, they've. Yeah, they've been doing a lot of covers lately. [00:05:25] Speaker A: Stay with Me, that's my pop impression. [00:05:32] Speaker B: I mean, that's a good possibility. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Speaking of six, we're not talking about Insidious six, which maybe we will one day if we see it after it comes out. We're talking about two issue number sixes from Spawn's universe. Because this is regarding Spawn. And each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. Except when we don't. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Yes, we do. [00:05:53] Speaker A: This week is no different. We have two issues from the two great issues. I really enjoyed reading these. This was a lot of fun. [00:06:00] Speaker B: They're really good. [00:06:01] Speaker A: They're really good. Two issues from the wider Spawns universe. These are two of the new Spawn offs, the spin offs, two of our favorites. Right now we have. Without further ado, we have rat city number six from September 2024. We're getting closer, David. We're closing that gap. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Closing that gap. It keeps. It keeps moving itself. It keeps moving, though. [00:06:24] Speaker A: We just did a freeze time. And then Sam and Twitch, case files number six, also from September 2024. [00:06:32] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:06:34] Speaker A: How insidious of them. [00:06:36] Speaker B: Since. Since that episode where we talked about insidious like 40 times. I now say insidious at least once a day. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Johnny, we only talked about Insidious like, one time. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but it's. It's insidious. It got in my head, Johnny. I know. [00:06:47] Speaker A: You said. You said we talked about it like 40 times. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Well, I mean, that's. That's part of the insidious nature of the Sinister. I like movies, Johnny. They're fun. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I like movies. [00:06:56] Speaker B: I like those movies. Can't wait for Thanksgiving, too. I know. [00:06:59] Speaker A: I love Thanksgiving. [00:07:01] Speaker B: I need to watch it again. That was. That was some fucked up shit, Johnny. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I should watch it this year. Maybe I can get convinced Logan when I go over his house for Thanksgiving to watch it. [00:07:10] Speaker B: But yes, Rhett City Sam and twitch number six. [00:07:14] Speaker A: Salmon twitch number six. We're executing order 66. [00:07:18] Speaker B: A good soldier follows orders, Johnny. And our orders are to read these dang books. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Has anyone ever told you the story of Darth Risler? The Rizzi? [00:07:30] Speaker B: Is he from Ohio? [00:07:31] Speaker A: It's not a story that beta males would tell you. His rizz was so powerful, he could make yachts fall off. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Since this is an audio medium you can't see. But Johnny and I both just aged like that Nazi at the end of Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail, like, just turned old and skeletal. And our hair, which we aged, like 400 years. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Yeah, when I say yacht, I just, like, almost have a heart Attack every time. [00:08:10] Speaker B: It cuts 25 minutes off your lifespan pretty much. [00:08:15] Speaker A: So instead of talking modern vernacular, let's talk modern. It's probably not even modern vernacular anymore. They probably don't even use those words anymore. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. We're going to learn in, like, six months what the kids are currently saying now. That's just the way it goes. We're not part of that group. We're outsiders looking in. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Everyone's leaving Twitter now, so we'll never know. [00:08:33] Speaker B: Well, they're all going to Blue sky, so we should probably go over there. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Well, before we get. Before we get much older, let's dive into these issues here. So first up, when we compare these two together, we always do Rat City right off the bat. And we always start with the covers. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Yes, we do. Couple of covers for this one, at least, Johnny. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Couple of two covers. And I have the A cover. [00:08:57] Speaker B: I also have the A cover. That Donagulio cover. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it's real nice. [00:09:00] Speaker B: It is real nice. It's the deviant just, like, jumping down to the city streets from up on high on top of the building. And he's just, you know, he's got his arms behind him and his legs ready to land. And he's like. [00:09:15] Speaker A: He's got some really cool shoulder or knee pads. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah. They've got, like, flashlights on him. So that way he could see at the bottom of those street canyons, there's, like, cables flowing around all over. Like the. Doing the cape. The cape action there. Because the cape's kind of small. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Ooh, it's real good. It's a lot of motion there. A lot of motion. [00:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah, a lot of. Just, like, coming down, diving down off the buildings. [00:09:42] Speaker B: Much like a couple episodes ago where we saw the Al Simmons. Like, the view of a cornered criminal seeing Al Simmons up on the rooftop. This is what a criminal would see if the deviant decides to jump down on them. [00:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Right before they get kneed in the face with those big old knee pads. [00:10:02] Speaker B: It's like. It's like the old. The old Winnie the Pooh saying about panthers. They stay in the trees, and when you look up, they pounce on you. He's pouncing. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Really? Is that what he used to say. [00:10:12] Speaker B: In one episode of Winnie the Pooh? That's what he says. It's when actually it might have been the direct to video movie about Winnie the Pooh and the crew meeting Tigger. Because at first. Because at first they think he's a panther hiding in the trees until he turns out to Be the goofiest goofball. Whoever goofballed, he's a goof. [00:10:37] Speaker A: And there's a B cover. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Yes. By Thaddeus Roebuck. [00:10:40] Speaker A: And that's got like the deviant kind of a different angle. He's coming at you head on. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Sorry, Robec, not Roebuck. He's not part of the Sears Corporation. Whoops. [00:10:50] Speaker A: But yeah, it's a deviant running at you. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks like he's doing The Rat Alley 5K. He's trying to break his personal best record. He's trying to break that six minute mile, Johnny. Yeah, I like the signs on this Thaddeus Robec sign that's got the recycle sign. But it says, no plastic can't recycle. [00:11:09] Speaker A: They haven't figured out how to recycle plastic in the future? [00:11:11] Speaker B: I guess not. Well, I mean, I know that we figured it out. Number six, which is polystyrene, is one of the hardest things to recycle. But it's also one of the cheapest plastics. So a lot of people will be like, we've bought recyclable materials to be eco friendly, but it's all fucking polystyrene, so it just has to go in the garbage anyway. [00:11:32] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Also, also, apparently plastic. Plastic recycling just in general is kind of mostly a scam. Like it's very, very hard to do. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I've heard. Yeah. [00:11:45] Speaker B: You gotta. You gotta do what you can, I guess. [00:11:49] Speaker A: We am what we am and we do what we can. [00:11:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Until we can't. But right now we can. And what we can do, Johnny. We should probably pop open this issue of Rhett City and. [00:12:00] Speaker A: Oh yeah, mine still smells really good. Mmm. Smell it. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Mine smells like my beard. [00:12:07] Speaker A: Oh, mine smells like dark ink. [00:12:11] Speaker B: I gotta put that. You gotta put that beard oil on in the morning, Johnny. So that's all I can smell until like 11:30 in the after in the morning, 11:30 in the afternoon. What the fuck? [00:12:20] Speaker A: That's called Almost Midnight, David. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's called. That's called My nose is broken. [00:12:26] Speaker A: So, yeah, credits we got script plot by Erica Schultz, art by Zay Carlos, color by J. David Ramos, lettering also by Erica Schultz. Yeah, we already covered the covers. Creative director is the Todd father himself, Mr. Todd McFarland, sir. And the editor in chief is the Tom father himself, Mr. Thomas Healy. Let's call him. Let's start the Tom father. Let's start doing that. [00:12:53] Speaker B: But isn't Tom Tom father? [00:12:57] Speaker A: I know. [00:12:58] Speaker B: He could be. [00:12:58] Speaker A: What are we going to call Thomas Healy, then the Heel Father. The Heel Father. That sounds awful. [00:13:05] Speaker B: Well, we could change Tom O's name to the O father. He could be the O father, and then Thomas Healey could be the Tom father. Or we could. We could call them. We could call them both the Tom father. But Tom Warzikowski is Tom father and Thomas Healy is t H O m father. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, we could do that. [00:13:24] Speaker B: The Tom father with an H. Let's. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Just call Thomas Healey our father. [00:13:28] Speaker B: Our father. Okay. Our father. [00:13:30] Speaker A: Will you be my new dad? Thomas Healey. You probably didn't vote for Trump. [00:13:34] Speaker B: I would assume that Thomas Healey, if you listen, hit us up regarding Spawn Pod so we know whether. [00:13:41] Speaker A: No, don't ask him to do that. Just be our dad. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Just be our dad. Yeah. [00:13:49] Speaker A: Yeah, you are. You're. Because you're the dad of. You're more like the Todd McFarlane's the dad because he's like the kind of crazy energy and then like, Thomas Healy is like our mom, or he makes it all happen. [00:14:03] Speaker B: Or Todd McFarlane is like the grandfather who started it all and now is back in the cut a little bit. And Thomas Healy is our father, but Todd McFarland's son, who's currently taking over the business, making sure that there's still a business to pass down to us. [00:14:25] Speaker A: And they're passing it down. They're passing it down in droves. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Hi. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Did you. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Did you hear that Thomas Healey is going to be writing a Spawn book in the next year? Johnny? [00:14:33] Speaker A: Really? [00:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. He did a special appearance on a podcast with our good friend Spawn Hunter, and one of the questions they asked was about a book that he's writing. I didn't listen to the episode, but I read the recap. Sorry about that. I'll remedy that soon. But yeah, he's apparently going to be writing a spawn book, Johnny. [00:14:51] Speaker A: Awesome. [00:14:53] Speaker B: That's great. [00:14:54] Speaker A: That's great news. He knows the occult well. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yes, he does. [00:14:58] Speaker A: He's a smart man. [00:14:59] Speaker B: So I have a feeling it's going to be a very spooky book. [00:15:03] Speaker A: I bet it'll be really fun. [00:15:05] Speaker B: It would be nice to get a true horror book in the Spawns universe. I think that's what we're missing, Johnny. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we got the cosmic horror of early King's Spawn. But yeah, no Home Here might be that. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Oh, Johnny. This week I got to check the preorder box at my local comic book shop for no Home here. And oh, boy, I was very excited. [00:15:30] Speaker A: I was getting a haircut yesterday next to my comic shop. And I had a moment, was like, oh, my God. I was just sitting there in the barber chair thinking. I was like, oh, my God. I haven't subscribed to fucking Deadly Tales of the Gunslinger. So I ran out with my bib on. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I waited a lot for the haircut, but it'd be a lot funny if I ran out with the cape on and was, like, half shaved. And I was like, I need to pre order Deadly Tales of the Gunslinger right now. [00:15:55] Speaker B: When we make the biopic about the two boys from the Respawn podcast and their lives and travails, the dramatic recreation of that scene will be. You'll have the shaving cream still on your face for some reason. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Because you were getting a shave and a haircut for two bits. I also think, Johnny, I think Thomas Healy needs to start for his name in all the books. He needs to put a little. A little jaunty. A little jaunty trilby on the end. A little hat on it or a little pork pie. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Just like, he hangs his hat on it. Or he could just go the prince route and just change his name to a little bitty hat. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I just changed my name to a beard. That's my identifying feature. [00:16:46] Speaker B: I would change mine to what does a doofus look like? [00:16:51] Speaker A: You. [00:16:52] Speaker B: All right, well, then I guess it's just going to be a picture of my face. You look up in the dictionary, doofus, it's me. [00:16:57] Speaker A: No, you're a gallant. You're not a doofus or a goofus. You're a gallant. [00:17:03] Speaker B: A gaily bedight. The gallant knight in sunshine and in shadow. [00:17:07] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I forgot to do previously on. Because we started talking about Thomas Healey. Previously in Rat City, a hallucination causes the deviant to lash out uncontrollably and unknowingly unlocks new potential with his powers. [00:17:23] Speaker B: That happened? [00:17:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Last time we left him, Dr. Amon, right, was bugging them, came in, it was, you know, holding the blaster on him, and Peter just, like, flipped out. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Did a warning shot to the side, and it made the deviant go, ha. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Let me see the other side of that warning shot in this issue. [00:17:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it's super fun. I'm glad that that happened. Erica Schultz, Johnny. She puts together a good story. [00:17:52] Speaker A: What's the fun detail of, like, oh, it's odd. He shot it to the side and then it pays off later. [00:17:57] Speaker B: Yeah, those are fun. [00:17:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:00] Speaker B: Johnny, first. First off, we gotta go. We gotta go. We gotta go back Back before this. Previously on Back before Al Simmons became the Hell Spawn. Back before New York City was even part of the country of the United States of America. Here, Johnny. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah, because this issue is a really fun kind of self contained thing. It does go back to like where we left off, but it does like a really interesting thing. [00:18:26] Speaker B: The history, the history of the area of land now known as Rat City. So much like we have in the other issues been getting single issue stories that are the background of certain individuals. This is the background of the individual that is Rat City. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And I just thought that was really cool to like slow it down and. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Do this, give some context. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Some context and just like, I don't know, this is a really cool issue. Good idea on the storytelling. Just pacing and, you know, storytelling stories are meant to surprise you, keep you interested and this is surprising. Turn. That's really cool. [00:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun. It's also a little bit of, a little bit of a history lesson. It's always fun. [00:19:13] Speaker A: No, it's cool. You can tell Erika Schultz. I know Erika Schultz is into history and stuff like that, so it's cool to see her be able to use some of that. [00:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun to see when, when people are really nerdy about very specific things and they get to work that specific nerdiness into their. Their actual work. Yeah, fun. Much like this is one of my favorite science facts, Johnny. There is a protein called the Sonic Hedgehog unit and it is one of a repeating sets of units named because the scientists who discovered it fucking love Sonic the Hedgehog. But Robotnik deactivates Sonic hedgehog units because Dr. Robotnik is Sonic's so. Yeah. Nerds are everywhere. [00:20:03] Speaker A: Indeed they are. [00:20:04] Speaker B: You got. You have inside of you both Dr. Robotnik and Sonic the Hedgehog, Johnny. At least as recognized by scientists. Wow, congratulations. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Gotta go fast, gotta go fast. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Don't run into a wall. You're gonna drop all your coins. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Dude, my nephews are so pumped for that third movie. They love Shadow the Cause he's got a gun. Yeah, he's got a gun. He's Sonic. Sonic with a gun. [00:20:30] Speaker B: He's like Slowpoke Rodriguez, only less racist. Yeah, I can't say completely unracist because they've got that kind of Rastafarian thing going on. [00:20:41] Speaker A: Who are they? [00:20:42] Speaker B: Who, who, who? [00:20:44] Speaker A: Slowpoke Rodriguez. Who? [00:20:46] Speaker B: I think Slowpoke Rodriguez is Speedy Gonzalez's cousin. Walks really slow, but he has a pistol. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, I know him. Okay. Yeah, just like that. Yeah, I guess like Shadow is Kind of Sonic's cousin, in a way. Is he like, cloned from Sonic or something? [00:21:03] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. It's Johnny. I've only got room for so much lore, and I currently have that lore spot of my brain filled with Godzilla. Like, I got to explain how this Mechagodzilla isn't the first Mechagodzilla. Because the first Mechagodzilla was a future machine brought by some aliens to prevent Godzilla from coming to power. Whereas the current iteration of Mechagodzilla was just built by the Japanese government to protect against Godzilla. [00:21:33] Speaker A: Ah, and there's the one in the monsterverse. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Oh, I guess the third one. I haven't. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Do you not seen Godzilla V. Kong? You haven't seen it, huh? [00:21:42] Speaker B: Because it's not on Pluto tv, Johnny. Okay, I sit down. I open. I open. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Why do you mean? To spoil it for you. [00:21:48] Speaker B: How dare you, Johnny. Next you're going to tell me that they fight. [00:21:51] Speaker A: They do fight, and then they team up. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Son of a bitch. How dare you? [00:21:54] Speaker A: Well, they team up to fight Mechagodzilla. [00:21:55] Speaker B: You know, they're actually producing the GeForce Mechagodzilla Pilot Pilot hats there in the pre order stage right now. So get yourself a GeForce Mechagodzilla pilot hat. [00:22:06] Speaker A: Yeah, wear that around the town. [00:22:08] Speaker B: Yeah, nobody's going to know what's going on except for big old nerds fit. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Right in Rat City. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Speaking of Rat City, Johnny, we got to get to this documentary. We got to learn the history of New York, right? [00:22:20] Speaker A: So this whole issue, at least the first, like 75% of it, is a documentary about the history of New York, the. The Bowery. [00:22:28] Speaker B: And there's a little disclaimer at the beginning. It says, the makers of this documentary are not responsible for inaccuracies written by AI researchers. [00:22:36] Speaker A: Dude, AI is driving me crazy, man. I can't Google anything without getting the AI results first. [00:22:41] Speaker B: It sucks so much. I hate it. [00:22:43] Speaker A: It sucks. [00:22:44] Speaker B: It sucks. And I know so many people use it to try to make things easier, and I'm like, don't give Skynet permission. [00:22:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:52] Speaker B: To go live. Have you not seen a dystopian movie? [00:22:55] Speaker A: I'm coming clean. I've already said it before, but I use it for the hashtags on our Instagram posts. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Yeah, well, at least you don't use it to write your plays, which I know a lot of people who are like, I don't like to write. I'm just gonna AI it? [00:23:06] Speaker A: No. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Come on. As we all know, a writer is someone for whom writing is much harder than a normal person. So, yeah, if it's not hard, it ain't writing. [00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah, writing is hard. David Mamet said all you have to do is sit down at a keyboard and bleed. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Nick Cave says that it's not writing if his brain doesn't bleed. [00:23:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, my brain bleed when I write, when I'm doing writing stuff, but I usually enjoy it. But sometimes it can be really hard when you don't have any clue what you're going to write. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Yeah, sometimes it's very clear and you're just, you're like manic and it's like there's this weight that slowly removes itself as you go. And then other times it's just like. [00:23:45] Speaker A: What am I supposed to do? [00:23:47] Speaker B: Why? So, yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: This documentary is brought to you by Pharma Tech Solutions. Hmm. Suspicious. [00:23:52] Speaker B: For every problem, there's a Pharma Tech solution. [00:23:55] Speaker A: And we get this cool futuristic narrator. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah, and she's got like cybernetics technomeshed with her flesh, Johnny. And she's got like tattoos on her cybernetic bits. Yeah, it's pretty cool. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Rose tattoos maybe. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Maybe, maybe she's a Dark Tower fan and she's. It's the field of roses that lead up to the Dark Tower. [00:24:15] Speaker A: Sure. The Dark Tower is so popular then. [00:24:19] Speaker B: All things serve the beam, Johnny. Kag kahtet. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Dada chick, dada chum, my friend. [00:24:28] Speaker B: So lady sitting there introducing us to some farmlands that would eventually be known as the Bowery. She's drinking a nice little cocktail, Johnny. [00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah, she got like a cocktail. [00:24:38] Speaker B: I would, I would love for a documentary host to just be like chilling with a cocktail and be like, here's some knowledge for you. [00:24:45] Speaker A: No, it's cool. It's a cool choice to have this cool narrator. It just makes it seem more futuristic. [00:24:50] Speaker B: Yeah, she's. She's kind of like Mr. DNA from the Jurassic park, only a lot hotter. I don't know, Johnny. You seen the. Have you seen the double helix on that man? [00:25:03] Speaker A: Woo wee woo. He's got some good jeans. [00:25:07] Speaker B: He fills them real nice too. [00:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:10] Speaker B: So we learned that the Bowery is the oldest thoroughfare in Manhattan. It was a trail carved out by the Lenape peoples and it was taken over by the Dutch when the Dutch came and did their Dutchy stuff. Their colonization, their. Some bad things, some good things. What are we going to do about it? And then, you know, a short history of, you know, the Bowery comes From. [00:25:35] Speaker A: The old Dutch word for farm. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it was the site where a lot of, you know, all the people who used to live in the Bowery back when old New York was still New Amsterdam. [00:25:47] Speaker A: Why they changed it, I can't say. [00:25:49] Speaker B: People just liked it better that way, I guess, Johnny. And we learn about Peter Stuyvesant being responsible for the surrender of New Amsterdam to the British. And we learned that in the 2000 and 30s, he got canceled for being a nasty man. So we've got that to look forward to, at least. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Very exciting. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Think this is a real figure? [00:26:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He's. He's all over the place. Jon Suvisan. [00:26:12] Speaker A: I don't know. You're the history. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Have you heard of Bed Stuy in Brooklyn? Yeah, the STY stands for Stuyvesant. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:26:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he was an actual dude, all right. Hey, he was the founder of the city. [00:26:24] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't believe anything, man. Trust no one. [00:26:27] Speaker B: You wake up blank every day, you learn fresh every day. [00:26:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:32] Speaker B: What is the moon? M, O, O, N. That spells John Cohen. [00:26:36] Speaker A: And then the Bowery went through carnage after the British takeover and the war for American independence ravaged New York. [00:26:41] Speaker B: Mm. [00:26:42] Speaker A: And even at one point, George Old Georgie made the Bull's Head Tavern his temporary headquarters. [00:26:48] Speaker B: That is where George Washington had his Diet Coke and spaghetti. [00:26:52] Speaker A: So Old Georgie. [00:26:54] Speaker B: Old Georgie, Yeah. [00:26:56] Speaker A: I wonder if he had a Diet Coke button like Trump did when he. You think George Washington. He probably just had a cocaine button. They probably just gave him cocaine. [00:27:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he just snorted. He just had a slave do it. Johnny. [00:27:07] Speaker A: He's got a wooden nose. Isn't that the legend? I'm kidding. [00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, what. There was. There was a movie where somebody has so much. Does so much cocaine that it erodes their nose. So they've got, like, a fake, but it's a gold nose. [00:27:22] Speaker A: There's. [00:27:24] Speaker B: Was that a Bond villain? No, it wasn't a bottle. No, it was. [00:27:27] Speaker A: There's the guy with the wooden nose in Race of the Broken Land. [00:27:30] Speaker B: I think it was a Guy Ritchie movie. That seems very Guy Richie to have somebody who erodes their nose with cocaine. [00:27:37] Speaker A: Ooh, that seems painful. [00:27:39] Speaker B: And there's a part of it where they have to heist the dude's nose. Cause he's got, like, some secrets stored in. [00:27:44] Speaker A: Oh, really? That sounds like a Guy Richie thing. Yeah. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:46] Speaker A: I don't know. But then, at the turn of the century, the Bowery was a boomtown. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Mm. The wealthy elites made their homes and businesses there until. Until the. The immigrants Started coming. And then the rich people were like, fuck this, we're moving uptown for better air. For better air. And then the classic. The classic tenement buildings were erected to house all of these people. And Johnny, speaking of ghosts, there ain't no way that there aren't like a bajillion and a half ghosts where these buildings used to be. Good Lord. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Oh my God. I've never seen a ghost. [00:28:23] Speaker B: My. There was a ghost lived in my grandmother's house. [00:28:25] Speaker A: I know you've talked about it before. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Yeah, the. Yeah, don't. Don't worry about it, Johnny. You're not. You're not missing out on it. [00:28:31] Speaker A: No, I'm scared. I don't want to see a goddamn ghost. I'm just scared of my mind. [00:28:36] Speaker B: They suck. They suck. But yeah, so I think my body. [00:28:39] Speaker A: Won'T allow me to see a ghost because I'd never sleep again. [00:28:43] Speaker B: I wouldn't want that. I don't want you accidentally sleep depriving yourself, Johnny. That. That would be no good. You would be incoherent and crazy different from. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I actually do think I had a. I didn't see a ghost, but I feel like I had a spiritual encounter one time when I was in. I went to. I mentioned this before. I went to Wales. Maybe I didn't mention this. I went to Wales for a stage combat class in college and we went to an old church and graveyard and like walked around a little bit. Like, not like do anything bad. Like we were just, you know, checking it out. Like you could go visit it. It was on this grounds of this castle we were doing this at. And that night I had a dream. I was in like an old ball at the castle. And like this beautiful lady looked at me, but then she like grabbed me and turned into like a fucking demon ghost. But it like felt different than a regular dream. It was like she saw me and I felt like a presence when I woke up. And it was really weird. Freaked me the fuck out. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Oh, geez. [00:29:38] Speaker A: So don't mess around old British graveyards. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Oh, geez. Well, at least. At least it didn't go the Dan Aykroyd in Ghostbusters way. [00:29:47] Speaker A: What do you mean? That would have gone great. Get a blowjob from a ghost. That's so fucking weird that that's in that movie. I so confused. When I was a kid, I had no idea what's going on. [00:29:59] Speaker B: I didn't know what was going on. [00:30:00] Speaker A: I was like, what is he doing? [00:30:03] Speaker B: Falls off the bed. But yeah, so we learned that it was Tough times living in those one room flats, Johnny. Others slept on the rough streets. But there were, you know, at this time of, you know, abject poverty, there was still lots of monuments that are still standing today being built. Like the Brooklyn Bridge, the 3rd Avenue. [00:30:23] Speaker A: L line made famous in Spider Man 2. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Filmed. Filmed in New York City, if I believe Jenna. Yeah, yeah, they were. Yeah. Not though. They filmed. They filmed the train scene in Chicago. That was a Chicago train in Spider Man 2. In Spider Man 2. Yeah. The one where he. [00:30:43] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:30:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's. That was filmed on like fucking. Fucking Wabash Avenue. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Oh, cool. I didn't know that. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Second New York trains because the streets are. The buildings are further apart. So it made for better. It wasn't so close. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Sure. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Right. But you know, with these technological advancements that they're having, the. Those that are in the. These tenement buildings and along the Bowery, they get pushed further and further into the shadows of the world and they take. They take advantage of these shadows. There's, you know, vice. Vice happens and the police are on the cut. Some people literally go there to potentially do nefarious things to end their lives. Teddy Roosevelt compared it to Dante's hell. It's very exciting. [00:31:39] Speaker A: Nice. [00:31:40] Speaker B: It's very exciting. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Teddy, you fucking racist bastard. I'm just guessing. I don't know. [00:31:46] Speaker B: Oh, no. Well, Teddy Roosevelt's also the guy who. The story about the teddy bear with the bear is he refused to shoot the wounded bear, but not to let the bear go for the bear's sake. But he didn't feel it was sporting to shoot a wounded bear, so he just had one of his underlings do it. [00:32:03] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Wow. [00:32:06] Speaker B: So, yeah, he had that empire kind of mindset and, you know, proper honor, that. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Right, Proper honor. [00:32:16] Speaker B: It's not the. It's that old British sense of honor, not that Klingon sense of honor. [00:32:21] Speaker A: Sure. [00:32:22] Speaker B: The 20th century brought new innovations and new problems, Johnny. And the Bowery, the Bowery literally became New York's skid row, while the rest of the rest of the city, the rest of the country kind of brought itself up at its nuclear ideals. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:40] Speaker B: With a. I like a 50s housewife aesthetic. I don't think we should go back to that. But I do like the aesthetic. It's a good one. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker B: Then we get to see a nice little example of some of the single room occupancy hotel signs there. SROs littered the Bowery for years and years and years. [00:33:02] Speaker A: There's a crazy documentary. I don't remember what it was on, but it was about one of the last of those in New York City. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Was it a documentary documentary or an audio documentary? [00:33:13] Speaker A: It was like a documentary. [00:33:14] Speaker B: I listened to an audio documentary where they interviewed a lot of the final residents in the last few weeks before the last SRO over there closed. And it was very interesting. Yeah, it was very interesting. [00:33:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I bet. No, this documentary was crazy. It was really eye opening. [00:33:33] Speaker B: There's a lot of things that we just don't think about. We just kind of like, eh, I don't need to think about that. But I mean, people are struggling all over, Johnny, and just not paying attention to them doesn't make their struggles go away. [00:33:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:46] Speaker B: Most of these SROs were filled with alcoholics looking for a patch of floor to sleep on because getting arrested by the cops and spending the night in the drunk tank. No bueno. No bueno. And I like that. We then get like a series of, like, interview answers from a series of men who lived on the Bowery. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Talking heads. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah. The wide range of feelings towards the Bowery are impressive. Like, there are some that are just like, hell, yeah, this is the fucking place to be. And others are like, I do not care for it. [00:34:23] Speaker A: It's a boulevard of broken dreams. One guy says, this place stinks. [00:34:28] Speaker B: You can drink away your troubles, though, Johnny. [00:34:31] Speaker A: That's true. Hang out with the rats. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. And then. And then our. Our hosts. Our host takes us to the most infamous bathroom in all of New York City history, Johnny. The. The famous CBGB bathroom, which renamed BCBG here for, I'm sure, legal reasons. [00:34:52] Speaker A: Speaking of talking heads. [00:34:54] Speaker B: Speaking of talking heads. Yeah, yeah. [00:34:56] Speaker A: And also we get the reveal that our host is hot. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Bonk. [00:35:03] Speaker B: I mean, it's unavoidable, Johnny. There's going to be a bonk in this episode no matter what we do. [00:35:08] Speaker A: Yeah. But no, the documentary host is a cool, futuristic badass. I just wish documentary hosts look like this in our world. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah, well, sometimes we get Levar Burton, Johnny, and that's almost the same thing. [00:35:23] Speaker A: He's pretty hot. [00:35:24] Speaker B: He is. Yeah. Bonk this. This is all to say that even in the squalor of the Bowery, you know, it breeds innovation. So this is like the cradle of American punk music is what came out of it. And then eventually it raises itself to a level that it makes itself obsolete. And then the obvious post modern joke of, you know, CBGB club being eventually purchased out by a high end boutique because it started as garbage and then got to the point where everybody was like, we gotta be on the Lower east side. And then all the things that made the Lower east side great got priced out. [00:36:07] Speaker A: Yep. And that how it goes. [00:36:09] Speaker B: And then. And then Johnny, our host, walks us into some grainy, shaky Blair Witch style footage here. [00:36:17] Speaker A: Yes. And she says, in the 90s, there was an urban legend of the king of Rat City. And we get a little flashback, little video. Yeah. It's showing them on a handheld recording device because you see the little wreck in the top corner. [00:36:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And the battery. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Overkill. Fighting fucking Spawn, baby. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty great. Well, first we start off with just the moody Spawn walking across the alley like he does in the Animated series with bats flying. [00:36:45] Speaker A: And he's fighting overkill. And zooms in on his face. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Zooms in on his face. Yeah. [00:36:50] Speaker A: And then we turn and I did a fist pump when I turned the page here. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, this was. This was a highlight of a very. A very good already very good issue, Johnny. Just seeing our boys Bootsy and Bobby. [00:37:03] Speaker A: Again interviewed on the news. It's archival footage circa 1993. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Nice little reference there. [00:37:09] Speaker B: Yeah. But also, Johnny, also like Mechagodzilla. This is Bobby 2, not Bobby 1, because remember, the first Bobby was just some random Bobby. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. This is Bobby 2. [00:37:18] Speaker B: This is Bobby 2. So much lore. And then we get our. The boys, Bootsy and Bobby start talking about Spawn. Well, Bootsy starts talking about Spawn, and Bobby's like, no, no, no, no, you gotta stop it. And then we get our opening reading. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Yep. You, gentlemen, your mics are still on. [00:37:37] Speaker B: The only sad part about this, Johnny, is I would have liked to see Zay Carlos takes on Bootsy's boots. They would have been amazing. [00:37:46] Speaker A: I bet they would have been spectacular boots. [00:37:48] Speaker B: I have a feeling that probably somewhere in his studio there is a rendering. [00:37:55] Speaker A: Well, it's just good to see Bootsy and Bobby, you know? [00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:58] Speaker A: Some of my favorites of the podcast. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Yeah, Rip. Rip. Both of them, most likely. [00:38:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Probably Bootsy. Bootsy goes away and Bobby's so sad. It's a sad tale. But then we zoom out, Johnny, and we zoom back to the present of the present day of Rat City. And our host says, today Rhett City is home to most of New York City's population. And we zoom out to see a street scene with. Oh, boy, all sorts of stuff happening. [00:38:26] Speaker A: Casey Jones is there. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:29] Speaker A: No, he's got, like, a devil mask. Devil mask. [00:38:33] Speaker B: It happens. [00:38:34] Speaker A: There's like a drone. [00:38:36] Speaker B: The streetlights are all crazy. The. I like the. All of the signs are like, holographic. [00:38:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's cool. [00:38:44] Speaker B: You can really tell what they are because, like, the street sign is green. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:49] Speaker B: It looks like New York City hasn't embraced the. Put the trash in the alley even in the future. Joanie. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Nope, it's right there. [00:38:56] Speaker B: It's right there. And then we zoom out even further, and we see a guy sitting on his couch watching the. Watching this documentary. And he pauses it because there's a ruckus in the apartment next door. He says, what's all that racket next door? And he puts his ear up to do some eavesdropping, and bam, A bullet comes through right in front of his face. [00:39:17] Speaker A: And we know that that is the side shot from Dr. Avenue. [00:39:21] Speaker B: Yes, we do. And he says the most logical thing that everybody in a horror movie should be saying. Ah, hell no. [00:39:28] Speaker A: Hell, no. I'm just trying to watch this PBS documentary and drink a beer, and I'm getting shot at. [00:39:33] Speaker B: So he calls the security services, and he's like, somebody's shooting through my wall. And they're like, okay, okay, awesome. Where are you? And he's like, I'm in Rat City. And they're like, oh, dude, I have bad news for you. [00:39:43] Speaker A: Gonna be a minute. [00:39:46] Speaker B: And then while he's waiting on this phone call, the deviant cape just, like, goes right through the wall like a lobster piece. [00:39:56] Speaker A: Two big pincers pop out. [00:39:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then. And then shortly after that, comes the impaled Dr. Amon on the other. The other arm of the deviant. And then we cut over. We cut over to see Quinlan trying to get through to Peter while they don't know what's happening. And they're like, peter, what's going on? And the deviant reaches out and shs them right on the arm. Gives us. Bleeding, Johnny. They're bleeding. And a drop of their blood falls onto the deviant's cape. [00:40:29] Speaker A: We go into Peter's mind where he's just slashing at a Fleabiac. [00:40:34] Speaker B: Yeah. We go into Peter vision to see what Peter sees. And the narration goes to Quinlan saying, what did Peter see while he was in there? And that's. That's a fun little bit of juxtaposition. [00:40:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:47] Speaker B: That you can do with comic books is, what did he see? What was he feeling? He attacked me like I was an enemy, like he wanted to kill me. And the. I like the Fleabiac lettering on the. Please, please, Peter Melt. Yeah. And then Peter, like, basically just, like, wakes up, and he's got this fucking Dr. Aemond body on his hand. And he's like, ah, what the fuck? [00:41:14] Speaker A: But he's still breathing. [00:41:15] Speaker B: He's still breathing. And Peter's like, we gotta help him. And Quinlan's like, we gotta get the fuck outta here. We gotta go. Peter's like, but he's hurt. Quinlan's like, he's a cop. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Yeah, and I'm hurt too. [00:41:27] Speaker B: So Peter gives Quinlan a quick little deviant suit bandage. And they're like, should you be doing that? And he's like, it's fine for now. We'll deal with it later. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Yeah. He like, gives her a Hell Power bandage. [00:41:41] Speaker B: A hell. A Hell band aid. We are stuck on Hell Band Aids because hell is stuck on us. Peter's like, well, we gotta go. Let's go. Let's go through the shadows again. So he shadow jumps with Quinlan right before the cops show up. The cops come in and they see Dr. Amon. They pull him out on an ambulance stretcher. And they're like, we gotta get him. We gotta get him somewhere safe. Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him. We cut to Dr. Amen is slowly opening his eyes. There's some medical jargon going around, around him. And then there's a. Hello, Eamon. And his pupils go real big. And then we pull back and. Shit, I forgot this guy's name. Bad, Bad Doctor. Other guy. [00:42:25] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [00:42:26] Speaker B: What is his fucking name? [00:42:27] Speaker A: Do you have the previous issue handy? I don't, no. [00:42:30] Speaker B: It's right over there. Shit. Dr. Badman says, we have so much to discuss. And he just like starts shocking Dr. Amen Bose. Bos. Nice. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Dr. Bose. I thought of that edit, by the way, listeners. I didn't even look it up. I just remembered it in my brain. [00:42:45] Speaker B: Off the top of his head. [00:42:47] Speaker A: Dr. Bose. [00:42:48] Speaker B: Dr. Amon's just there. He's given the. He's given the. No. You know Spawn's favorite quote? [00:42:55] Speaker A: Yep. And Darth Vader. [00:42:56] Speaker B: Darth Vader's favorite quote. [00:42:58] Speaker A: He loves saying it. [00:42:59] Speaker B: I like the. I like the little holographic image of the heart that's just sitting there. So they can. That's the heart meter is just a visualization of the heart. [00:43:08] Speaker A: A picture of the heart. Yeah, it's pretty great. [00:43:11] Speaker B: And then we get a. It just skulled in the issue. Just right there. [00:43:16] Speaker A: Yep. [00:43:17] Speaker B: What an issue. Johnny. [00:43:19] Speaker A: That was awesome. So much fun. [00:43:22] Speaker B: It goes by way too quick, though. [00:43:23] Speaker A: It does. It goes by super quick. [00:43:25] Speaker B: Very, very quick. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Then we got the new generation, new stories, new you, an ad for the. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Spin offs, and the salmon twitch that we're going to cover next is right there, Johnny. [00:43:37] Speaker A: There it is. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah. That Violator number one, which if you haven't bought Violator number one, go fucking buy Violator. [00:43:43] Speaker A: It was awesome. [00:43:45] Speaker B: Violator number three came out last week and I still haven't gotten to it, but that's just because I'm slow. [00:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:53] Speaker B: The Spawn's origin. Spawn Origin Collections Volume 1 still only 9.99. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Got the Witchblade ad. [00:44:01] Speaker B: And then Dune Part 2. Is the toy ad on the back there? [00:44:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that Dune series just started. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:08] Speaker A: Very exciting on hbo. I haven't watched it. I haven't seen the movies even. [00:44:13] Speaker B: The movies are good. [00:44:14] Speaker A: I know they're good. I just. I missed the first one and I missed the second one. I just need to like, get sick or something so I can watch them. [00:44:22] Speaker B: You need to. You need to have three, three and a half fucking hours to watch it. Yeah. That's the only problem. [00:44:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Cool looking figures, though. Good licenses. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Got Timothee Chalamet. You got fucking Austin Butler. [00:44:38] Speaker B: It's got Dave Bautista. As I said before, Great sculpting on his. Oh, yeah. His head. His head wrinkles. [00:44:46] Speaker A: And Josh Brolin. Thanos himself. And I like the toys. I like. I hope they do this for Spawn. But if you notice that the Paul Atreides, the Timothee Chalamet figure has that cloak. There's wires in the edges of the cloak and in the hood, so you can like pose it. I hope they do that with like a Spawn's cape one day. That would be awesome. [00:45:04] Speaker B: That would be awesome. [00:45:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's the issue. [00:45:07] Speaker B: It's Rat City number six. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Rat City number six. A history. A trek through history with a very nice host. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Very nice. [00:45:30] Speaker A: Continue this order. 66. [00:45:33] Speaker B: Mm. [00:45:34] Speaker A: We need a second six. [00:45:36] Speaker B: Yes, we do. [00:45:36] Speaker A: And that six is Sam and Twitch case files number six. [00:45:42] Speaker B: Hell yeah, it is. [00:45:44] Speaker A: And this cover has a special place in our hearts. [00:45:46] Speaker B: Mm. [00:45:47] Speaker A: Because it's by Mark Spears, former and hopefully future again guest of the podcast. [00:45:52] Speaker B: Absolutely. With his signature being some kind of fuzzy creature. And there's the cat. [00:46:00] Speaker A: There's the cat. He got the cat in there. And he mentioned our show. He's like, I gotta sneak the cat in there as often as I can. [00:46:04] Speaker B: I would like to pet that cat. It looks like a. It looks like it kind of would be a little upset at you petting it, but would probably eventually calm down. [00:46:13] Speaker A: And like, you get that Mark Spears detail with some badass sandwich witches. They're fucking awesome. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And there's a. There's a TV set. That's. The static on that TV set is great. But it's got blood on it. It's got a bloody handprint. There's a bloody hammer sitting on top of it. There's blood on the ceiling. [00:46:33] Speaker A: Yeah, Twitch looks pissed. [00:46:35] Speaker B: Yeah, our boys are looking real good there. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a great cover. It's one of the best covers. It just immediately draws your eye. [00:46:42] Speaker B: Yeah. It's very well composed. And we don't have to worry about there being a not real color of sky since they're inside, so. [00:46:51] Speaker A: Right. [00:46:52] Speaker B: But it does still have that nice blue. Blue hue that a lot of the Mark Spears covers have. [00:46:58] Speaker A: No, I love that neon blue that he uses. [00:46:59] Speaker B: It's great. It's real good. There's also. There's a second cover to this, Johnny. Can you believe that? They tried to put out another cover to compete with this. How dare they? [00:47:08] Speaker A: How dare they. [00:47:09] Speaker B: How dare they. [00:47:10] Speaker A: It's pretty cool too, though. [00:47:11] Speaker B: It is a Thomas Natchlick. And as we know, Thomas does some good work. And it's Salmon Twitch. It's. It's all white and it's Salmon Twitch in the front and a. The red sports car in the back. You can't see if there's any trash falling out of it, sadly. [00:47:28] Speaker A: But if it's Sam's, there probably is. [00:47:31] Speaker B: This. This looks to me, Johnny, like this would have been the box cover art for a late 90s LucasArts. Yeah. Puzzle game starring Sam and Twitch. [00:47:44] Speaker A: I can see that. I mean, they did. Who are the pair? Who's the pair? The pear, the dog and the rabbit. [00:47:50] Speaker B: Oh, fucking. [00:47:51] Speaker A: Wasn't it Sam and Max? Yeah, Sam and Max. [00:47:52] Speaker B: Sam and Max. Yeah, you do that. [00:47:54] Speaker A: Just swap in Sam and Twitch. [00:47:55] Speaker B: Sam and Twitch. We got some curse of Monkey island nonsense going on in there. Could you imagine? Could you imagine you swap out Guybrush Threepwood with Sam Burke. What the fuck is this? This is stupid. That's what the whole game would be. Yeah, we gotta. We gotta pop that sucker open, Johnny. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Let's do it. Let's live. Mark Spears cover. I love you. [00:48:20] Speaker B: Mm. We gotta cover those credits where the credits are due. And we got script plot by Todd McFarlane with Coplat by John Goff. Simon Kudransky's doing the art. FCO Placencia and Sheila Saldana are doing the colors like they have been. Tom O is doing the letterings. The Tom father himself. The O father. [00:48:40] Speaker A: I thought. [00:48:42] Speaker B: Oh, I thought it was Tom father without an H and Tom father with an H. No, it is. It's that the O father covered the covers. Todd father is the creative director, and the Tom father with an H is the editor in chief. Previously in Sam and Twitch. After a meeting at the diner, Twitch realizes he's been set up to take the phone. There's only one thing he can do, and he did it. We saw him. [00:49:11] Speaker A: He calls for help. [00:49:11] Speaker B: Saw him calling for help. [00:49:13] Speaker A: And we open on our man, Sam Burke. [00:49:15] Speaker B: Oh, this. Oh, this. This hurts me to look at it every time. Johnny. It's just Sam looking in the mirror, like, replaying all of the bad things people have said to him recently in his head. And. Oh, it's. It's a real rough. It's a real rough run. [00:49:31] Speaker A: I've been there, Sam. [00:49:32] Speaker B: Yeah, so a lot of it is. A lot of it is what Helen said when she kicked him out of the house. And then there's one very particular bit of it that is from Twitch himself, and it's. I've had enough, Sam, and I'm not covering for you anymore. I've got a career, too. So he says, maybe they're right. And then we see just sort of how Sam Burke spends his official suspension. And day one is just. He's just angry, and he's like, nah, fuck him. Ah, he ends up at the bar. Day two, he's lost his taste for pepperoni pizza. Johnny. He's just like, why am I eating this fucking pizza? [00:50:12] Speaker A: He looks sad with the pizza. [00:50:14] Speaker B: Yeah, the goddamn Mets lost again. Then it ends with some beer. Johnny. [00:50:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:21] Speaker B: Day three, he's just, like, sitting in his office, not doing work, but surrounded by trash, looking in the mirror again. And he ends up at the bar again. [00:50:31] Speaker A: What does he mean? [00:50:32] Speaker B: Is it. I don't know, Jo. That looks. [00:50:35] Speaker A: Hey, I've been working out, so I'm not gonna look well, hey, Johnny, for much longer. [00:50:39] Speaker B: What are you talking about? On day five, he starts to go outside and he's like, what's an okra? I laughed so hard at that vacuum. [00:50:49] Speaker A: He vacuums. So he's getting better. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Day seven, he picks up the phone when a telemarketer calls. It's like, nah, I don't need to do blind. [00:50:56] Speaker A: Day nine, he eats an apple, not a pepperoni pizza. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Day nine, he's exercising. He's eating some sort of. Or drinking some sort of smoothie that tastes like horse piss mixed with grass. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Just like my dad said, that Lone Star is mule piss. He must be drinking a Lone Star. [00:51:12] Speaker B: He must be. But he's. He's huffing and puffing on that Treadmill Johnny. He's. He's trying to put things right. [00:51:17] Speaker A: To be clear, I like Lone Star. Something my dad said. It was very offensive. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Who doesn't? [00:51:22] Speaker A: Mule? Piss mule. [00:51:24] Speaker B: I was about to say who doesn't like Lone Star? But then obviously your dad doesn't like. [00:51:28] Speaker A: He drank a couple anyway. [00:51:31] Speaker B: It's. It's a beer flavored beer, Johnny. [00:51:34] Speaker A: It is if it's cold. Tastes good. [00:51:36] Speaker B: At a certain point you just want a beer flavored beer. [00:51:38] Speaker A: You just want it cold. Honestly, there's a point with like the beer, how cold it is, how good it is. [00:51:43] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, cuz. Cuz the colder it is, the less you can actually taste it. And then it's just like fucking cold and delicious. [00:51:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Yard beers, I call them. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Yep, you put them in the freezer. We cut back to Plainfield, Iowa. We're back where we left Twitch. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Oops, that was supposed to be Indiana. Because Twitch is in Indiana. [00:52:04] Speaker A: You're right. [00:52:05] Speaker B: Oops. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Oops. [00:52:06] Speaker B: Indiana, Indiana, Iowa, what's the difference? [00:52:10] Speaker A: Let it go. [00:52:11] Speaker B: And we got Twitch just sitting in his hotel room just like replaying, replaying the scene from the diner. [00:52:20] Speaker A: And he's like a hug. The slow motion hug of doom. [00:52:28] Speaker B: It was him. And then Detective Reles calls him on his cell phone and Twitch just lets it go to voicemail. And then he sits in the dark some more. And then his hotel room phone rings and Twitch just, you know, answers it and it's Detective Reles again. Or it's Trestle. We have another situation. I could use you at the scene. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Hotels, like one of the last places where you still got a landline. Yeah, I mean, I know there's a lot of like offices like hotel in like sad hotels called hospitals have them. But like, I mean like the last place I interacted with the landline was probably a hotel. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I can see it. [00:53:08] Speaker A: Do you have a phone at your desk, David? [00:53:09] Speaker B: I do have a phone at my desk, but it's still registered to the person who sat there three years ago. And I have to list that phone number. But most likely I'm not going to be at my desk when the phone rings. Okay, So I have to just give everybody my cell phone number. What you can do about it. [00:53:28] Speaker A: It's the modern world. [00:53:30] Speaker B: That is how it goes. But yeah. So Twitch shows up to the house in the middle of the field and there's a lot more detritus around the house from this angle than we've seen before. There's like a car. It's not Even on blocks, it's just sitting on the ground, a whole bunch of junk. Twitch comes in. He's not very happy. And he says, jim Reles says he's in the basement, but I need you to look in the din for first. And then we cut out back out to the house, the outside of the house, Johnny. And we see the back of somebody's head. Whose head is this? [00:54:08] Speaker A: It's Twitch. [00:54:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we cut back in and Twitch is looking at the dead body of Lansky. And he's like, so this is him, huh? What happened here? And as we said before, it's Lansky's body. He's dead. He's missing a hand. He's got a sign on him that says, I'm sorry. And they're trying to figure it out. Twitch is like, you think he killed himself? And Reles like, I don't fucking know. This is crazy shit. It's probably the truest thing that's said in this entire book, Johnny. Yeah, this is all crazy shit. [00:54:40] Speaker A: He's like, there's more you need to see. And takes him down to the basement. [00:54:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he takes him to the. Takes him to the fucking barbarian Stairs. Look at nothing. Nothing's more evocative than some stairs into the basement. [00:54:52] Speaker A: Scary stuff. [00:54:54] Speaker B: So they. They go down there and then they see the murder suicide that Reles made happen. So Twitch is seeing this for the first time, but we know. We know that that's kill themselves. That's planted. [00:55:07] Speaker A: Yep. [00:55:08] Speaker B: And then we begin kind of. [00:55:10] Speaker A: They're kind of overstretched themselves for getting. Try to get him to believe the guy with one hand killed both of them, then killed himself. And it's very obvious he's been dead for a long time. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:18] Speaker A: Come on, guys. [00:55:19] Speaker B: There's. There's some. There's some logical gymnastics going on in this sort of pseudo resolution, but so that way everybody gets on the same page, kind of. It's. It's some. It's some jumbled mess, but it's still. It's still enjoyable, so we'll get over it. But. So they're down there. [00:55:39] Speaker A: No, he calls it out. He's like, this is really stupid. There's no way he did that. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:44] Speaker A: It just makes Langston look a little boneheaded. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And then we see, while they're doing this discussion downstairs, we see upstairs, somebody comes up onto the porch and then opens the door with a gloved hand and then leaves some footprints and then leaves out into the moonlight. But, you know, down in the basement, you know, Twitch. Twitch and Releas are just. Twitch is like, this is stupid. Why did you do this? And they're like, we gotta. The people gotta trust the police, Twitch. It's basically what it comes down to. And then, and then Twitch is like, guess what, motherfuckers, you're all under arrest. I'm not bullshitting. And then, and then they're all like, we're not in fucking New York, dude. What are you doing? It was like, we need. We need you to help us, keep us, you know, be that award winning police department. And Twitch is like, I don't give a shit. He's like, I. Right and wrong is Twitch. Twitch doesn't Twitch. If it were the right thing to do, Twitch would gladly watch the police department burn down. Absolutely. [00:56:55] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:56:56] Speaker B: And unshakable moral compass. Twitch has absolutely. And then, and then he's like, where's my gun? And they're like, give him his gone back. And Reles is like, you're not as. You're not as observant as you think you are, Twitch. So they all go back upstairs. Twitch is not happy. But he sees footprints that weren't there before. He stops mid sentence and is like, oh, someone was here in the house. [00:57:25] Speaker A: Yep. Because we kind of tipped over it. But the killer comes in and like peeks. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's the guy who was upstairs that I kept flashing back to. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, the note on Lansky's chest. Look at it. It's changed. And it used to say I'm sorry. And now it says, no good deed. [00:57:42] Speaker A: The killer was here. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he may still be Tobias Reles. Tobias. Tobias. Is Papa there? [00:57:49] Speaker A: Tobias Forge. [00:57:51] Speaker B: Get up here now. And then they. They do a sweep outside to see if they've caught anybody. And then Twitch answers the big question. The why? Why Jim? Why? Why me? Why here? Why now? And Jim's like, we needed help. You were the person that I knew could help us best. And Twitch is like, man, I wish I could believe you, but I can't. And Jim's like, I'm real fucking sorry about it, but plan's already in motion. And this is. This is the one part of the issue that I don't like. It fucking pissed me off because I think it very out of place. But what are we going to do? Jim's backup plan to make sure that Twitch did stuff and helped them was to try to frame Twitch for being an adult having an affair. So they sent a picture that's not even a really lascivious picture. It's just Twitch helping somebody out. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:55] Speaker B: And Helen sends. Oh, Helen. Helen sends a whole bunch of upset messages. Fuck you. Fuck you. With increasing numbers of exclamation marks. You're going to throw away your family for this? For this? I'm done. We are done. [00:59:10] Speaker A: Blood splatter. The end. Why'd it piss you off? [00:59:14] Speaker B: It just. It didn't seem necessary. It just doesn't seem necessary. I don't. I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure we'll see the aftermath and we'll figure it out later, but it just seemed like an unnecessary end to the issue. I think they could have. I don't know. It's a. It's a poorly thought through plan, I think. [00:59:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Lance is kind of a dope. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And it just doesn't seem like. I don't believe Helen would have taken a picture of Twitch from a random person to be the most damning of evidence. Especially because it's not an in media sex. [00:59:49] Speaker A: I mean, they were already on thin ice. [00:59:51] Speaker B: They were, but she knows that he's a cop and that he helps people and that he went there to help people. [00:59:58] Speaker A: It looks like he's helping. [01:00:00] Speaker B: It's not like he's smooching. It's not like they're particularly impassionately embraced. Like, at the most, it looks like he's helping a drunk woman out. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:12] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Or like. Yeah. Or a dead woman. [01:00:15] Speaker B: Or a dead woman. Yeah. It just. It just. It just rang a little false to me. But. Yeah. It's not my story to tell, Johnny. It's the Toddfathers. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Yep. And then we get the new generation, new stories, new you ad with that nice versus Samurai on there. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:36] Speaker A: You read that? [01:00:37] Speaker B: I am. I'm reading it. It's good. It's wild. [01:00:41] Speaker A: Okay. I like David Dalsmatrian's Count. Crowley was good. I read the first, like two or three weeks of that. [01:00:48] Speaker B: Oh, was that a Dark Horse book? [01:00:50] Speaker A: Yes. [01:00:51] Speaker B: Okay. [01:00:52] Speaker A: I remember seeing who is a recovering alcoholic who like fights real monsters. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Oh, nice. That's awesome. I should probably go read that. They probably have it at the library. [01:01:02] Speaker A: I have the first trade paperback if you want to borrow it. [01:01:05] Speaker B: Ooh, nice. Might take you up on that. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Next time I see it, I'll try to bring it. [01:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Fallout. Is the toy ad on the back there? Yep. That's the end of the. There's no. Not much back matter in this one, Johnny. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Nope. Just a couple of pages. That's it. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Mm. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Gotta save it for the main event. [01:01:24] Speaker B: Sure do. Sure do. Sure do. Well, Johnny, these were a couple of good soldiers. And they followed orders and they followed 66. As we all know, a good soldier rates the puppies. So we gotta rate these puppies. [01:01:41] Speaker A: Johnny, it's time to rate the puppies and the kitty. Cause of the cat on the COVID Oh, yeah. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Good soldiers. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Father Otis, it's time to rate the puppies and the kittens. Baby. Time to rate the issues. [01:01:54] Speaker B: That kitty gets a 4,000 out of six for me. [01:01:57] Speaker A: The cat. [01:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah, 4,000. [01:02:00] Speaker A: 4,000. Damn. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good kitty. Look at it. [01:02:03] Speaker A: You should have gone over 5,000. 9,000. What is it? 9,000. [01:02:09] Speaker B: 9,004. [01:02:10] Speaker A: It's a dragon Ball Z thing. Oh, he's talking about someone's power level. He's like, he's over 9,000. [01:02:16] Speaker B: I'm still in the. I'm still in the original Dragon Ball series. [01:02:19] Speaker A: Okay. I saw it from the Internet and, like, memes. [01:02:23] Speaker B: Dragon Ball Z is still a couple of years away from me. I'm still, still an innocent little Goku with his. With his monkey tail and his. His. He's still so pure. He can still fly. The Kinto Un. Kinto un. [01:02:39] Speaker A: So, yeah, first up, we had Rat City Number six. [01:02:42] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. [01:02:43] Speaker A: A fun documentary like, side story, kind of like background. It was just really interesting. A great storytelling device just to like build the world of the city and just get that flashback to early Spawn and Bootsy and Bobby and again, Zay Carlos is killing it. [01:03:01] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:03:03] Speaker A: J. David Ramos is killing it. The colors just pop. [01:03:06] Speaker B: They do as well on Old Timey as they do on Future hasn't yet. [01:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah, the Old Timey stuff's cool. Yeah, it's just like, not what I expected, but like what it needed and was just such a cool idea for an issue. Yeah, I mean, I pretty much like everything about it. I'm going to give it five holographic hearts. [01:03:31] Speaker B: Woo. [01:03:32] Speaker A: Because five out of five holographic hearts. Because the issue stole my heart and the host of the documentary stole my heart, Whoever she is. I love you. [01:03:42] Speaker B: If we had that holographic with her cool rose tattoos, you'd be able to see Johnny would pick up his new copy of Red City and it would just start going and everybody would be like, johnny, are you okay? [01:03:53] Speaker A: No, I'm in love. [01:03:54] Speaker B: I just love this book. I love this book. I also. Johnny, it's probably really boring to hear our reviews of Rhett City because all our reviews are just this fucking. This book fucking rocks. It's so good. This, Johnny. This is the dreaded linking issue. This is a. This is a motherfucking linking issue. But this is like the best linking issue I think I've ever seen. Holy fucking shit. Just like the whole conceit, how it just like crashes into the current state story. The cliffhanger of Bo's getting his grubby mitts back on Dr. Amon. The art Erica Schultz is killing it. Zay Carlos is killing it. Even just this page with all the faces of the guys. How each of them has their own personality and like just how much that comes through. I really like the. I really like the guy at the end who obviously has no teeth and he's just like. Yep, yep. It's just. It's just a fucking good. It's a fucking good. [01:05:01] Speaker A: I'm probably gonna read issue seven right after this. [01:05:04] Speaker B: I am going to give it five. Al Simmons beaten the out of Overkill on a handheld recorder. Oh man, it's just so good. [01:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:16] Speaker B: Again, if you aren't reading Rat City, correct that immediately. I would, I would go so far as to say if you're going to read one Spawns Universe book, make it Rat City. [01:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah. If you're going to read one right now, Rat City. [01:05:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's definitely the most self contained, so it's the easiest to read by itself. But also it's just the consistent, high quality is. It's unparalleled. Absolutely. [01:05:45] Speaker A: If you're going to read two, I probably recommend Mainline Spawn next. [01:05:50] Speaker B: Mainline Spawn is absolutely incredible. [01:05:53] Speaker A: We're talking not miniseries. Yeah, I'd say Mainline Spawn then probably Scorched, but I don't know because Scorched is pretty like it's kind of doing its own thing right now that you could get into easily, I think. I don't know. [01:06:09] Speaker B: I think, I think if you're familiar, like you need to King Spot would. [01:06:15] Speaker A: Be easy to get into because it's just like a beat em up issue. Now. [01:06:18] Speaker B: You would need like a glancing familiarity with all the people to get into Scorch. That's a pretty easy one. I think Gunslinger is still also up there. It's not. It's not as wild and zany as it was, but it's still easy enough. It's still one of my favorites. [01:06:33] Speaker A: You can jump on. [01:06:34] Speaker B: You can just. You can. [01:06:34] Speaker A: I'm sure more people will be with the new Deadly Tales coming out. People will be jumping on the original too. [01:06:39] Speaker B: I'm real excited about that. [01:06:41] Speaker A: I ran out of my barber chair to go pre order it. All right. That's Two fives out of fives. That's in the. Yeah, that's in the Hellfire Club. What do we call it when we give it? We got to come up with a name. [01:06:51] Speaker B: Like, I guess we can call it the Hellfire Club. [01:06:53] Speaker A: All right. It's in the Hellfire Club. [01:06:54] Speaker B: You just. You just came up with it. We just have to remember that that's what we called it. [01:06:57] Speaker A: Put some flame cackles. It's in the Hellfire Club. That's when we give it five out of each. Give it five out of five. Next up, for parts two of order 66, we are executing Do It Sam and Twitch case files. And this is a pretty good issue. I really enjoyed Sam's little beginning with him, like, working his way out of depression because I've been there, and just, like, those little steps you can take day after day to, like, just work your way out of it. It was nice to see Sam doing that, and it was good to see some, like. I don't know. It was just a nice, tense standoff with Twitch coming out and saying, I know shit's not right here. I love seeing angry Twitch. He was just pissed. I love when he pulled out his badge like, you're all under arrest. And, like, give me my fucking gun. It was just. It was cool to see angry Twitch because he's, like, pissed off. He's like, I came out here to help you, God damn it. And you're going to fucking treat me like this? [01:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah, they're a bunch of dummies. [01:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah. But I'm gonna give it four out of five a hug, bro. This is like the third time we see, like, the slow motion of Truss looking that hug and stealing his gun. But four out of five and, like, I like the. Again, Simon Kudzanski is doing great stuff. Just little details and facial expressions are really great. [01:08:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:08:28] Speaker A: Loving the dark noir of it. Yeah, I'm probably gonna. After we're done recording, I think I might sit down and read the next few issues of these just because I was so into them. [01:08:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, absolutely. I agree. I love seeing Sam doing stuff that's good for Sam. I love the. Like, this is kind of like a. The detective reveals all the things. And I love how Twitch is revealing that he knows the fucking nonsense that these Plainfield police have put together and just kind of how stupid it is. Like, that's the. That seems like it would be the hardest thing to put together is like, why would they do this? This is just the dumbest thing. But, I mean, that's how the pieces go. And while I didn't. Didn't love the trying to get Helen jealous as a sort of means of story conveyance, that's not one of my favorite tropes, which is why I hated it so much, it's still, you know, as a whole, it's a fucking great issue. I'm gonna give it four. What's an okra? I love the idea that Sam Burke has been around on this earth for how many years and he doesn't know what a fucking okra is. [01:09:51] Speaker A: I mean, when you're from New York and only pepperoni pizza and donuts. Yeah, I guess you would love fried okra, though. [01:09:59] Speaker B: Oh, he would absolutely demolish a fried okra. [01:10:01] Speaker A: I love fried okra. [01:10:03] Speaker B: That's something that I remember when I was, like, 13, realizing that my grandparents hated okra. And I was like, how could anybody hate okra? It's fucking delicious. [01:10:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought that too. I loved okra. [01:10:15] Speaker B: But for the longest time, until there was that creep of Southern food out of the south, up north, that up north, most okra was just stewed. So if you didn't like slimy okra or pickled okra, which gets exceptionally slimy if you didn't like that, that's all okra was. And so. Yeah, so. But no, if you haven't had fried okra, y'all go get it. Fried okra. [01:10:41] Speaker A: It's so good. [01:10:41] Speaker B: Fucking get it. It's so good. [01:10:43] Speaker A: It was a cafeteria staple at, like, my elementary school, and I used to love it. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:48] Speaker A: For a day. [01:10:48] Speaker B: And if you can't find it, you use a cornmeal batter. So you've got, like, the milk and egg wash and a cornmeal, not. Not your regular frying batter. It's got to be a cornmeal batter. And it's so good. Deep fried with some ketchup. [01:11:07] Speaker A: Delicious. [01:11:08] Speaker B: A lot of places up here try to put, like, the regular thick batter on it. That's not corn. And that's. That's sad. It's not. That's not the way works. It's gotta be a cornmeal. [01:11:15] Speaker A: You heard it here first. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Well, hopefully you didn't hear it here first, but if you did rectify it, your. Your mouth will. Thank you. [01:11:23] Speaker A: Yeah, get some fried okra. You'll be happy. [01:11:26] Speaker B: You can tell your doctor that you're eating vegetables. It's the same batter that's best for fried green tomatoes, too. So if you've had fried green tomatoes, just throw some. Throw some okra in there. And, oh, nothing better than a meal of just fried green tomatoes and fried okra. [01:11:41] Speaker A: That sounds delicious. [01:11:42] Speaker B: You don't. You don't even wait to eat it all at once. You just eat it as it comes out of the fryer. Oh, man. The one thing I miss about Oklahoma is the fucking food. [01:11:52] Speaker A: That's true. I mean, there's a lot of things. [01:11:54] Speaker B: I miss, but that's the main thing I miss. [01:11:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Every time I go back, I do eat out a lot. [01:12:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:12:01] Speaker A: I go to hit up all my spots. [01:12:03] Speaker B: Gotta hit all your spots. Especially the barbecue, man. I love barbecue. But. Yeah. Well, Johnny, those were some good puppies. Those were some good rated puppies and some good kitties. You know what else is good, Johnny? [01:12:16] Speaker A: Our friends on Instagram. [01:12:18] Speaker B: Our friends on Instagram. And today we have for you. We just can't seem to escape the pull of toys, Johnny. We like to see a toy collection, especially when there is a high percentage of spawn toys in there. And today we have. It's called Antoys 4, underscore all and toys for All. And they're just showing their toy collection. They got a great violator going on there. They got, you know, a freak. They've got some kind of zombies going on, man. They got like those really. Those really nasty late 90s action figures that just. The ones that made my mom say absolutely not, and they're just so good. [01:13:03] Speaker A: The ones they sold at Suncoast Video. [01:13:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:13:06] Speaker A: In those clamshell cases, they got a curse. [01:13:09] Speaker B: They got some angels. Look at that curse. Oh, boy, that curse is so good. [01:13:16] Speaker A: Yeah, no, this, this, this like early 2000s McFarlane toys are hard to beat. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah, the ones that aren't posable but, you know, fucking great. And toys for all. Go, go check out some of the. Some of the. I like the way they're taking the pictures. It increases the. [01:13:35] Speaker A: Yeah, this is really dramatic and spooky. They're cool. [01:13:37] Speaker B: Yeah, they get some great follow. [01:13:40] Speaker A: Definitely. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Well, while you're on the Internet, you should also follow Lonnie Bones. Just Google Lonnie Bones music. It's Lonnie with a Y. He does our music. And it is very good music. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:13:53] Speaker B: It is spooky sometimes. [01:13:56] Speaker A: It can be. [01:13:57] Speaker B: It can't be. Yes. Then still. If you're still hanging out on the Internet, come find us on Instagram. We're grown expandpod. [01:14:05] Speaker A: Absolutely. We're there. [01:14:06] Speaker B: We do stuff. We don't post as frequently as we have in the past. [01:14:12] Speaker A: You know, Gotta take care of yourself. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Yeah, we try. We try. The podcast comes first, the Instagram comes second. Yes, maybe. Maybe further down than that. [01:14:22] Speaker A: But we're good at responding. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Johnny is very good at responding. David is not. [01:14:26] Speaker A: So hit us up. [01:14:28] Speaker B: So if you get an answer, it's definitely Johnny you're talking to. Yeah. Speaking of getting an answer, Johnny, if you would like to reach out to us in a non social media context, you should send us an [email protected] and specifically, if you need something to talk to us about, you should answer this question that Johnny has for you. [01:14:54] Speaker A: What is your favorite documentary? Because this issue is a documentary. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Very nice. [01:15:01] Speaker A: I'm wondering what some people's personal favorite documentaries are. I really enjoy. There's one called the Nightmare that's really good. [01:15:09] Speaker B: Okay. [01:15:10] Speaker A: It's about nightmares. [01:15:12] Speaker B: Okay. [01:15:12] Speaker A: Scare the shit out of me, Johnny. [01:15:16] Speaker B: I don't believe you. That sounds spooky as shit. Not gonna lie. [01:15:21] Speaker A: Do you have any favorite documentaries? [01:15:23] Speaker B: I think my favorite documentary is called Vomit. And it's just a documentary about the history of graffiti and its sort of cultural impact and how it came to the prominence that it is. And it's fun. There's some great characters you get to meet. It was made 15ish years ago. So there were some guys who were big in the scene in the 70s when it exploded. And they were, you know, they were still alive because they were only like 12 when they started. [01:16:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:04] Speaker B: So you get to have some perspective from then you get some perspective from now. Kind of how it falls apart when it's. The art form is moved from outside in the wilds to in a sterile gallery environment. It's fun. It's great. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Sweet. Yeah, I'm now. So. Yeah, what's your favorite documentary? Yeah, let me know. [01:16:30] Speaker B: Let us know. It's very cool. [01:16:31] Speaker A: Regarding SpawnPodmail.com. [01:16:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:16:34] Speaker A: Make sure to rate, review and subscribe. Let people know about us, other Spawn fans, friends, family, co workers, anyone into Spawn. [01:16:42] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. And also, if you're telling your friends, family, co workers about Spawn, you should tell them to read a couple of specific issues of Spawn. So that way they can get caught up and listen to us and it'll make sense, Right? [01:16:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Because that's what we're gonna cover next week. What are we covering next week, David? [01:17:01] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, we're gonna cover a couple more of these new issues of Spawn. Because as we said, they just. They keep coming. They keep coming fast and furious. We're gonna be. I'm gonna be real sad when we don't have as many new ones. It'll be nice to get back to the old ones, but, oh, we gotta get through these new ones. [01:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:20] Speaker B: So next week we're going to have a fun little romp with two series that we just talked about, Johnny. We're going to talk about Gunslinger 35 and main title spawn 357. [01:17:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:17:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah. So that's going to be fun. [01:17:36] Speaker A: I'm excited. [01:17:37] Speaker B: Read those two, come back and listen to us talk about them in a week. Let us know your thoughts on them. [01:17:43] Speaker A: We'd love to hear it. [01:17:44] Speaker B: Yeah, Let us know your thoughts about rat City number six, Samitwitch number six. [01:17:49] Speaker A: Let us know your thoughts on order 66. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Oh, yes. Yes, please do. There's. There's. There's one absolutely acceptable answer that will get a thumbs up no matter how many times you send it. So please send it. [01:18:00] Speaker A: A good soldier follows orders. [01:18:02] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. You get a thumbs up for that, Johnny. You get two thumbs up for that. [01:18:06] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah, well, Johnny, I've given you the thumbs up, which means I have to end and I have to say, may the scorch be with you. [01:18:16] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:18:18] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:18:19] Speaker A: Hell yeah. [01:18:21] Speaker B: Okay, Johnny. Well, in order to thematically go throughout the day, since we. We just saw some. Some Sam. Some Sam Burke, I am very hungry, so I am going to go order 66 pieces of fried okra. And. [01:18:34] Speaker A: Ooh, it's going to be nice bringing it all together. I'm going to order 66 sliders. [01:18:39] Speaker B: Ooh, very nice. Just gonna slide them right in there. [01:18:44] Speaker A: No, actually, I want okra now. [01:18:45] Speaker B: I'm gonna. [01:18:46] Speaker A: I'm gonna go on a quest and find some okra. [01:18:48] Speaker B: Let's. Let's go on a quest together. We'll get together. We need. We need a bard. Or we need a rogue. We need a wizard. We need a. I guess we could have a paladin, but the paladin or the. The barbarian. So which one do you want to be? And then we'll get. We'll get another couple people. We'll quest. The great quest for okra. [01:19:11] Speaker A: I just want to be married to that documentary host. [01:19:17] Speaker B: Bring her along. I bet she'd like fried okra. [01:20:03] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's 66. David. We get to make order 66 jokes. [01:20:07] Speaker B: Gotta love him. [01:20:09] Speaker A: Do what must be done. Show no leniency and show no mercy if he does six. Sounds like don't have too many orders is what he says. [01:20:21] Speaker B: He's the Georgie. Gotta love him.