Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: What the hell, man? You've been to hell. You've been to heaven. You know what's real and what's bullshit. It isn't like this is new to.
Good evening and welcome to the Malibu. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I am your co host, John Fisher.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: And I'm your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, it's strawberry season, okay?
[00:00:54] Speaker A: It is.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: So what that means. What that means is with the too many strawberries that I am growing, I now have to eat too many strawberries and beg people. Beg people to take them off my hands. You know how hard it is to give away strawberries?
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Come give me some.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: I'd love to give you some.
I'll make a. I'll make a special trip for it. But. But yeah, like. Like you tell people, hey, there's strawberries, please, they all need to be eaten by the end of the day. And they're like, oh, yeah, that's cool, that's fine. And then they walk away and they eat, like, two of them.
Like, eat more. Somebody's offering you free strawberries. And you like strawberries. Just eat the goddamn strawberries.
Yeah, don't be coy about it.
If I wanted you to be coy, I'd say, hey, here's some koi fish jokes.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Sorry. I got fish on the brain because that penguin's still in the background.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Oh, I got a penguin. Did you picture in my background?
[00:01:46] Speaker B: Did you hear?
[00:01:47] Speaker A: My uncle's.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Did you hear that?
I think it was the Brookfield Zoo had a penguin throw an opening pitch for a socks. A socks game not too long ago.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: Did you really throw it?
[00:01:59] Speaker B: I think he just waddled out there and stood there and they maybe tried to put a ball next to him.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Okay, that's funny.
[00:02:09] Speaker B: That is funny.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: Aw. I like penguins.
[00:02:12] Speaker B: I met a penguin once.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: Johnny, where'd you meet a penguin?
[00:02:16] Speaker B: At the Brookfield Zoo.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: Okay. What was his name?
[00:02:19] Speaker B: His name was Pedro.
He just wanted to walk underneath the benches that everybody was sitting on.
They've got very interesting, like, feathers. They're more like quills all the way through than actual feathery feathers. Okay, it's interesting.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: It's the first time we're recording on a Tuesday, I think, ever.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: Dang.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Maybe.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Well, happy Tuesday, Johnny.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: Happy Tuesday. Tuesday is kind of the forgotten day.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: Tuesday. So it is. It is one of the two highest traffic days in Chicago. Tuesdays and Thursdays are the worsts.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: Really?
[00:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
Which is interesting because you think it would be Monday, but nope, it's Tuesday. For some reason now, people take off.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Fucking Fridays every week now.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: Just so they do virtual.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I feel like the work always feels like a ghost town on Friday.
So it's good to do. To do stuff if you don't want to be bothered.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Because there's nobody there to. Well, I'm the one who bothers people and interrupts their work, so.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: So if you're there, it's happening anyway.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, penguins. I mean, could you imagine working with the penguin all day, Joanie?
How fun would that be?
[00:03:38] Speaker A: It'd be pretty cool.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: Like, you just.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: What do you mean working with him, like, at your office?
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Oh, well, I mean, that would be awesome if you could just, like. It's like your emotional support penguin.
You keep them with you, so that way you don't.
Don't get too stressed.
Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: Penguin would relax me.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
You know what else would be fun to hang out with? Puffins. Puffins would be awesome to hang out with.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: What about Porg?
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Porg? Porg would be even better, but unfortunately, porg would require a lot of travel to get one.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah, you go all the way to. Ach. To.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Whereas puffins, you can just go wherever. Wherever they live. Some island somewhere.
Yeah, Puffin land.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Where do they live?
[00:04:27] Speaker B: I. I don't remember. They. They live on an island somewhere.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Rocky island. I feel like.
[00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it's an island with a lot of rocks.
I just. I don't remember where it is.
[00:04:38] Speaker A: We gotta find out where the puffins are.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Gotta go search down the puffins. We can just. We can just call up the Star wars team and be like, where did you film the porgs?
That's why we have porgs.
[00:04:49] Speaker A: Skellig Island.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: Kelly Island.
[00:04:52] Speaker A: Skellig.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Okay, well, then there we go.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: Skellig.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: Skellig.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: S, K E, L, L, I G. Okay, can I.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Can I make it incorrect one more time? Somehow?
[00:05:02] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: I think I went through all the permutations of mishearing.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: It's a very protected island in Scotland.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: Okay, nice.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: But they got special permission to film.
[00:05:16] Speaker B: There.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: Because it's Star wars, and they.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Couldn'T move the birds, so they decided to alter them into something fantastic.
Man, I love a porg. I almost wore my perg shirt.
I just got my NASA shirt.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Your Purg shirt.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: My purrg shirt.
I really like pergs. Perks. Damn it. Now I'm gonna say pergs.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Jesus Christ.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: I was gonna say I really like porgs. And then halfway through was like, no, no, say pugs.
I also really like pugs.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah, pugs are fun.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: They're an affront to God, but good Lord, they are.
They're very good beasts.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: Yes. They're very happy, very fun, fun loving.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: They do a lot of dumb shit, Johnny.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: My friend James has three pugs.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
We used to take care of our friends pug every once in a while, and he would. He would wander around the backyard and just eat all of the trash he could find.
Like, I saw this dude eat at least three cigarette butts, and it just, like, didn't faze him at all. And it's like, what is.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: How.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: How.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: Why you got cigarette butts in your backyard, David?
[00:06:26] Speaker B: Because the. It's very. It's very. The trash flies around all over the place.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: Okay? I thought you were smoking cigarettes. To lecture you.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: Come on, Johnny, Johnny, you should know me better by now. If I'm gonna smoke cigarettes, I'm gonna smoke some unfiltered, okay? That way. My uncle taught me this. That way. Nobody asks you to borrow a cigarette because it's not like they're gonna give them back. But. Yeah.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: No, they aren't gonna give them back. They're gonna smoke them. Yeah.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: But, yeah, yeah, this dude, cigarette butts, he would also like those little weird shitty mushrooms that just grow. Pop up after it rains. He would just eat those, too. And it's like, how, you know, didn't give him any tummy upset. So.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: One time, Cassius, my old dog, barfed up half a ball. We had no idea where it came from.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: Oh, man.
Oh, fucking Cuzco.
About a week ago, we had sultans, and Wanda had, like, had everything on the counter and then went to go get her phone to try to figure out where I was.
By the time she came back, he had eaten two sandwiches and an entire package of lentil and rice.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Like, in. In like 45 seconds.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: So I had to do that thing where you feed them peroxide so they throw up. But it's like, okay, now he's done. Oh, shit, there's more.
Oh, shit, there's more.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: I have absolutely no idea how this dude fit all of that inside of him.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: They just had to, man.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: That's like. I couldn't even eat two of those sandwiches and a whole thing of lentil and rice. I would be like.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: What kind of sandwich was it?
[00:08:06] Speaker B: It was the one that they put on their za' atar bread. So it was just like, hummus and vegetables.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Maybe a Little baba ganoush.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: Sounds good.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: It is real good. Sultan's is amazing. If you've never been to Sultan's, go to Sultan's. It's cheap as shit, too.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: Sultan's in Chicago.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: It's very good. Very good stuff.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: Do you have one by year or did you get it delivered?
[00:08:28] Speaker B: No, we got delivered.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: There are two of them, like equidistance away from us, right? Yeah, that's. That's how it goes. Let's. Living in the city.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Big city living.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: It happens sometimes.
At least a couple times a day.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: People be living in the city.
You know who else be living in the city, Johnny?
[00:08:52] Speaker A: Um.
Spawn.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Spawn be living in the city.
[00:08:56] Speaker A: He does the Scorch kind of live outside Ria. Like the. The fringes of society.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: Yeah, they.
Yeah, they couldn't be more disconnected from regular people if they lived on the. The JSA watchtower that just floats around in space.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, they're a little. I mean, they have like a mansion.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: I guess, or safe houses.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: They have safe houses.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: They're just. They're just somewhere, and then they see that something's happening, and then they show up.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Swan definitely lives in a city.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah, he does.
[00:09:29] Speaker A: New York City.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: New York City.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: And we've got scorching King Spawn for you today.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we did. And why is that, Johnny?
[00:09:40] Speaker A: Because we are respawn where each week we bring you two issues of Spawn's universe. Except when we don't.
This week is no different. We have two issues from Spawn's universe. That is scorched 40.
Very exciting issue. A lot of revelations.
[00:09:55] Speaker B: It's a great. It's a great turning point.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: And king spawn 44.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Johnny. I feel like I knocked you off your groove by accidentally doing that bit last time.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: No, it's fine.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: And now you're. And now you're lost.
You don't know where.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: No, I'm not lost. I'm just, like, a little tired today.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: Hey, it happens. It's tired time.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: It's morning time.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: I'm drinking coffee, though, so it should kick in.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: We'll be able to track exactly when the caffeine hits.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Scorched 40. King spawn 44. It's. It's a good four. Four. Oh. Episode 140. Everything's in the 40s, Johnny.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: Oh, man. Everything's four.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Everything's coming up 40s.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: Except for me, currently yet.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: We should. We should pause this episode for two years. So that way we can both be.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: 40 well, you only need eight months for me.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: I'm so young, Johnny, you forget.
I know you're a little baby, but this scorched, man. It's 40. It's a man.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: It's a man.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: It'S 40, but, man, oh, man, these are some good covers for it, too.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah, we got a very special cover for the COVID A. It's a wraparound cover.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I wanted to get this cover so bad, but I knew you were gonna get it, and I figured I should go for the coverage. But now I feel bad. I should have gotten it because it's a great Jessica Priest cover.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah, she's a little cutie patootie with her ponytail.
[00:11:26] Speaker B: Yeah, she's got that. She's got that Ariana Grande ponytail coming out of the top of her head. She's just in front of, like, this. It's like a. It's like a hydra that she's. That she's murderized.
And she just.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: It's just got, like whole bullet holes all in it everywhere.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: It's smoking.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's like it crash landed. Jessica Caprice is just down there, like, fiddling with the teeth.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: Just admiring her kill.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: She loves to kill, Johnny.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And it wraps. Wraps all the way around. So you don't have, like a back advertisement. It's just the whole thing.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: That's awesome.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
And that is by Federico Sabatini.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:12:09] Speaker A: Really fun.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: Can't stop looking at it.
And I have the B cover. I've got the. The Raymond Gay cover. And it's just classic Jessica Priest Batman. And on the roof. Well, Batman plus guns.
There's a water tower. Classic water tower. They've gotten rid of.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: Most gotta have a water tower.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: You gotta have, like.
Like special dispensation to still have a water tower. It has to be like a historic.
Historic landmark or something like that. Otherwise, they make you take them down.
There's some bats.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: She's in front of the Volta Building.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: In front of the Volta building. So that's got two guns.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: One of them looks like it's at.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: A perfect dark MM with the pistol.
[00:12:49] Speaker A: The pistol looks like. Got a fucking perfect dart.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: The revolver with a fucking laser sight.
Just go like an M14 or something.
Volta. The. Are we gonna assume that Hell. Hell River Incorporated is Volta?
[00:13:04] Speaker A: Hell River.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Isn't. Isn't one of the rivers in hell the Volta?
[00:13:10] Speaker A: I mean, that would make sense, isn't it? Because I thought it was the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria.
[00:13:16] Speaker B: No, no, no. Those Are sailing on the Volta forever. Yeah.
[00:13:20] Speaker A: They belong in hell.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: Christopher Columbus is required to do all of the rigging for all of them by himself. So he has to jump between the ships.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah. That fucking bastard.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Fuck that guy.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Fuck that guy.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: He's covered in sores of the pestilence that he brought with him.
Fuck that guy.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Like. Like, for real.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Up with indigenous peoples day. Down with Columbus day.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah. Well, we should probably pop this sucker open, Johnny.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Yeah, we should probably conquer this issue. Unless, like, Columbus conquered.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Let us discover the inside of this comic book, Johnny.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: Let us discover it and claim it as our own. It's time to colonize this comic book.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: I feel like the coffee's kicked in.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: The coffee's kicking in, baby.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: Oh, man.
It would be hilarious if there were a colonizer subplot in this issue, too.
But luckily, no.
[00:14:20] Speaker A: Luckily, no. Yeah. Let's crack it open. Let's do it.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: Do it. Do it. Hell yeah.
[00:14:25] Speaker A: There are some bad men in this issue.
[00:14:27] Speaker B: Yeah, there's one particular bad man.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: Real bad man.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: Bad. Real bad guy.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: But we'll get to that.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Script plot by John Layman. Todd McFarlane on additional script.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't find it.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: Couldn't suss it out.
Art by Steven Segovia.
Colors by Denis Ribeiro.
Lettering by Emerald Design.
We already covered the covers.
Creative director is one Mr. Todd McFarlane. And the editor in chief is Thomas Healy.
[00:15:02] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Previously in the Scorch.
The return of Reaver sparks conflict within the Scorched.
[00:15:11] Speaker B: Very nice. Yeah, I feel like. I feel like we need to get another the Scorched in there.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: The Scorched.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah. That's. Yeah. Reaper showed back up, and everybody was like the.
He. He did a jakku to ye old Reaper man. Not Reaper. Redeemer.
Too many R. Named Angel. Guys, we've been over this before for. Ah. But maybe. Maybe there's a. There's a more significant reason that I'm confused, Johnny.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: There. I mean, there is.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Let us. Let us read then. So we open.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Let us discover.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: We open with a prologue with Joe Frank. Officer Joe Frank, somebody's father. Whoever is narrating this. Joe Frank is his father.
And, well, he's bad man Johnny. He's the titular bad man of whom we spoke.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Yes. And if you remember, back all the way back in spawn 29.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Ah. Nice. Nice pull.
Oh, it's right there.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: It's right there.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: My coffee cup was hiding it.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: It's spawn 29.
[00:16:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Where spawn, basically, we see this right here. He tattooed. I beat my kids all over this, man.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And so he's just. He's just looking at himself post tattooing in the mirror.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: And that's Elizabeth Solander revenge tattooing.
Did you ever read those books?
[00:16:41] Speaker B: I'd never read the books. I saw the original movie.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: She tattoos, like, rapist pig on her.
On her caseworker or like social worker guy who assaults her.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: Fuck that guy.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Yeah, fuck that guy. It was a good movie, though.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: This is.
I feel like it would have worked better in book form because I never saw the.
The David Fincher one.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: So it's good.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: But the. The original Swedish. Were they Swedish?
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: Movies, man. That. That opening exposition dump that just kind of happens is kind of rough in a film format. There's so much that they got to get through before they can be like, okay, movie. Movie time.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. To explain the background of the family and stuff.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. That's a.
That's.
It can't have been easy. I'm pretty sure that all of the. The first passes on trying to translate book to film for that part were terrible. It's just. It's not a. It's not an easy thing to do.
[00:17:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, they're weird books. They're like. Because, like, the main character is obviously an author self insert character, and he has sex with everybody he meets. Everyone thinks he's like the hottest guy in the world.
So.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: So it was written by John Fisher.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah, of course.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: That's the John Fisher way. That's what all. That's what all your plays are about.
[00:18:10] Speaker A: All my self insert characters are like neurotic messes and die.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: You do tend to kill yourself, inserts, Don't. Don't you?
Yeah, Well, I mean, you do tend to kind of kill most everybody, so.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Not everybody.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: It's only the people that deserve to live.
Okay, this is. This is making it seem like you're a psychopath.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Sorry, I am a psychopath. I'm a playwright.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: I mean, can't get. Can't get worse than that, can it?
[00:18:37] Speaker A: No, I mean, if I was a penniless poet.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Maybe if you were an actor.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Oh, actors.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Have you ever.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: You ever eaten with one?
They're actors on animals. You ever eaten with one?
[00:18:52] Speaker B: Oh, man. Mel Brooks is the man.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: Yeah. So the dad, Joe Frank, is covered with tattoos, say, I beat my kids, and Spawn thought he was setting him straight, but it turns out just made him madder.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Because, Johnny, let me tell you, I certainly think that if I forcibly hold down an angry person and tattoo their truth all over their body, that they're just going to be like, oh, okay. Yeah, this is fine. Good.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: Yeah, this is fine.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Absolutely. We can do this.
Although Spawn himself at this time was also blinded by a lot of hate and confusion.
[00:19:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Spawn at this time was angry.
He liked to tattoo people a lot.
I mean, not a lot.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: It's.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: I guess he just likes to. He liked words. He stabbed those words into.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. He.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: Billy Kincaid.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: He. He. He. He necroplasmically tagged the alley with his name.
[00:19:48] Speaker A: You think he actually tattooed this guy with like a tattoo gun or used his magic?
[00:19:52] Speaker B: I'm sure he did it. He took one of his claws, dipped it.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: And so it was like old, which is that, to me sounds like the punishment is making it go like skinny line by skinny line. Yeah, yeah.
But so Officer Joe Frank just took it out on his kids instead of. Instead of being like, oh, maybe I shouldn't beat my kids. He's like, well, I guess it says I beat my kids. I should probably beat my kids.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: But as we know. Yeah, Eddie.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: Eddie shoots him. Yeah, Eddie. Eddie stopped the cycle of violence with violence.
So they ran away to New York. Johnny Eddie and his little brother.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: He's got a sick Kiss jacket.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it's such a dope jacket.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: Nice little reference to McFarlane doing the kiss Psycho Circus.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: It would be funnier if the reference were that John Lehman put a little bit of his blood in the ink that they printed this comic.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Yes, it's a shame that that ghost comic is Dark Horse because, like, if it was image, we could have got like a ghost action figure line. Maybe.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: Maybe. I mean, depending on. Depending on.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: I mean, they do make ghost action figures.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: Oh, I was about to say depending on how Papa. How protective Papa is of his.
His trademark. You know, there might be. There might be possibility sometime in the future.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: No, Super 7 makes I have one because remember, Brand got me one. I got the Papa Emeritus 3. Yeah, I would love a Cardinal Copia.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: They should. They should definitely put a voice box in the Cardinal Copia because then he could just say silly things.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I heard the new guy doesn't do that.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what you said. You said that you heard that He's a little bit of a meanie.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Hers a mean guy.
We gotta get tickets for that like.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: Yesterday, like we've been saying for months. Yeah, we do. We do.
If there's still. Well, apparently that is also Lollapalooza weekend. So it's.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: It shouldn't no, they're still available, I'm sure.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: I have a friend who's.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: I don't think they're gonna sell out the United or the. I mean, they might.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: I don't know. I have a friend who's actually doing a small road trip and that's like. He's seeing ghost four times in this one little trip. And the last one's gonna be the one that's in town.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: See ghost four times.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: Four times, yeah. Like, in a row. He's there for their little, like, Great Lakes shows. He's going to all of them.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: Oh, that's cool. It thought the ambulance going by was music.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. Johnny.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Can't wait to hear what this episode sounds like.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Man.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: I guess we probably should have listened to the audio on the last one before I recorded in the same spot.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: You know what?
We'll figure it out.
[00:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah. So if you didn't listen to last week or you don't remember, I moved and I don't have a closet anymore where I can record in. And I have a window in my.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: Room, so there's whole new sonic landscape.
[00:22:51] Speaker A: There might be some traffic noise. We apologize.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: It can't be any worse than the nonsense that I typically have in my background, so.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Oh, come on.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: These dogs bark so goddamn much.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: But. Yeah, so Eddie and his little brother ran away to New York and they're like Spawn's territory. He helped us once, but before they get to Spawn so he can help them again, they run into this guy, Snake the dealer.
Who?
[00:23:19] Speaker A: Snake the dealer. Classic, like 90s conundrum.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:23] Speaker A: He's got runaway kids with the drug dealer in an alley.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: Green hair, lots of. Lots of piercings, and 666 tattooed on his forehead. So this guy, he's. He's no good, Johnny. He's a no good Nick.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: He's a bad dude.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: Bad man.
And he's. He's beating him up because they shortchanged him on his drugs or he claims that they shortchanged him on his drugs. I think he's just a jerk.
That's all there is to it.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: And you'll see, you're mine. You were for me.
[00:23:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: The guy in the background's reading a brand.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
In the. In the most 90s. The most 90s urban environment feature a burning barrel.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Gotta have a burning barrel.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Burning barrel.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Gotham City was just full of them.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Fucking everywhere.
So. So Snake's like, well, so you guys don't forget, I'm gonna give you something to remember and.
And you know he starts walking towards Eddie's little brother, whose name I don't remember. And he's like, I'm gonna brand this little guy. And Eddie's like, no, no, don't. Don't do that.
He says, have mercy.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: His name's Andy.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: Andy.
Eddie says, have mercy. And Snake says, I don't do mercy, but I'll brand you instead of your brother.
So here we go. Eddie's getting a big S on his left shoulder blade for snake.
[00:24:48] Speaker A: And it's like a snake head.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, it is. It's actually. Oh. Oh, it is actually a snake. Nice.
It's not just an S, it's a snake in the shape of an S or an S in the shape of a snake.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: Pretty intense for a street level drug dealer.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a. Yeah, that's. That's like a custom piece. You can't just. You can't just pick up a random piece of metal and have it be right.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: No, he made that.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Or he paid good money to have somebody make it for him.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: And here we see that the voiceover says, for Eddie Frank, the incident with Snake and his branding iron might as well have been a lifetime ago. The distant past.
He's Reaper now, a creation of heaven, but a soldier for hell.
And so we're back to the end of the last issue where Reaper is accosting. Accosting. Confronting. Is confronting Redeemer.
He's like, don't lie to me, Redeemer. I know you're bad. The world's gonna.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: I know you're responsible for the end of the world.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: I've seen the end of the world, and the only thing that exists is you.
And Redeemer's like, hold on, hold. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's talk.
Reaper's like, no, no, no. You've been. You've been lying since you joined the Scorched. I'm not gonna talk to you. Everybody was like, I. I haven't lied. I just haven't gotten a chance to tell them the real truth because I tried to. And then fighting happens.
And so Redeemer, or Reaper gives him a. The blast of heaven, heavenly fire.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Zap.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: Right to the. Right to the chest.
And then Reaper's like, you're the reason. You're the reason that I quit the team because I saw what you would lead to.
Then we get a nice little.
The background turns into the vision that Reaper saw with a collapsed city and the moon with a big chunk taken out of it.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: Yeah, they nuked the moon or something.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Either that or like a fucking Kaiju came by and wanted to have a little.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: Took a bite.
Yeah.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: Mm.
And Reaper says, if I kill you, maybe I'll prevent that future from happening. And then as Reaper pulls his scythe back to swing the blow, Medieval shows up and says, no, Redeemer will not be killed based on mere accusations.
He moves fast for a big guy, Johnny, he wasn't there. And then he was there.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: He just popped in there.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: Could you imagine how scary that would be? To just have this big and all this armor just show up right in front of you with no wind or nothing, just like, ah.
[00:27:22] Speaker A: He just sneaks right up.
He's a Sadler.
He sidles on up there.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: He does.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: But then they all sidle up there to protect Redeemer.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: Jessica Priest shows up, Haunt shows up and they're just like, yo, you want him to be your enemy? We're all your enemies. You attack one of the scorched, you attack us all.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then, and then remember says, no, this is my fight. And he pushes Jessica Priest out of the way and swords at Reaper and is like, ah, ah.
And he's, he's.
You've always been too headstrong for your own good, Eddie. Quick to fight, slow to think. For as long as I can remember because I know you better than anyone. And he like bats Reaper's helmet off with his sword and then like, like removes his, his, his own armor to reveal him himself with his gray beard and his long gray hair and his, his no eyes and his button down shirt.
And, and Reaper's just like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude? And Redeemer says, hey, look at this. Look, look, look at this. He starts to take off his shirt, he's like, look at this.
He shows his shoulder, he says, I am you.
He's got the what, the little S shaped snake or the snake shaped S.
And then Reaper's just like, huh? Like that's a, that's almost a round eye. He's almost got a round eye going there, Johnny. Round eye of surprise.
[00:28:55] Speaker A: You guys are expecting me to buy this? You're me and you're a time traveler.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: It's the truth.
Oh, I love, I love, I love how incredulous comic book characters get when a comic book premise comes along. It's, it's great.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: No way. In a comic book. Someone from the future.
[00:29:16] Speaker B: Yeah, no, time traveler never works.
And Redeemer, like Jessica Priest is like, okay, so well, if you're Eddie from the future, what about this? And he's like, damn it. I. I can't. I can't fucking say it. I can't tell you. I'm gonna fuck something up if I tell you.
Jessica Priest is like, that's not a helpful dude.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: And she's. I love this. What? Causing of the world. Please tell me it wasn't Al.
[00:29:45] Speaker B: He can't answer that, Johnny. Unfortunately.
So Al's. Looks like Al's still on the table, Johnny.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: And Jessica Priest keeps asking him questions, and it's just like, I can't. I can't note it. I can't.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: I can't tell you anything.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: And then.
And then Father Kilgore just finally is like, enough, enough. I'm tired of this shit.
And he's like, do you have any idea how crazy you sound?
[00:30:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:14] Speaker B: It starts just like, giving a. You know, being like, we're supposed to be a team. Half the time we're fighting each other.
Now you're talking about multiple versions of yourself. Time travel, under the world. No. Just. No.
No. And then Jessica Priest is like, dude, what's wrong with you? You've been messed up ever since the Black. The Black Brotherhood.
And he's like, it opened my eyes.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: But this crap pushed me over the edge.
[00:30:39] Speaker B: He's got a little bit. He's got a little bit of that nervous sweat going on, Johnny, because he. Oh, boy. He's like.
And then Jet. Sku. Priest says the opening greeting, which is hilarious. What the hell, man?
[00:30:56] Speaker A: You know, what's real and what's.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: And then Kilgore says, I became a priest to do good. That's not what we're doing.
It's like this cosmic mumbo jumbo. Not. Not into the cosmic mumbo jumbo.
I think this is. I think this. This entire. This entire thing has made it to where I found my faith in God once again. That's how traumatic it's been. Been.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: This shit's so crazy. He's going back to a Judeo Christian God.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Back specifically to Catholicism.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
But, hey, at least there's a lot of rules, and there's always a rule for everything, so he doesn't have to worry about not knowing what he's supposed to do.
[00:31:40] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: And the Redeemer is just sitting there, like, being like, dude, what. What are you doing?
You're friends with all of these people. Stop being a jerk.
Oh, no, sorry, that's. I read this wrong again. The dialogue bubble is pointing at Redeemer, but it's technically supposed to be at Kurt, because it's Kurt saying, brother, what are you doing? And then in, in response, Father Kilgore is like, no, no, shut it, shut it, Kirk.
I'm pissed off at you most of all.
He's like, like, flaps him away because.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: He flaps his ghost away. He just piss off ghosts.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Exactly like that.
And he says, I'm done with him. Done with haunt too? Jessica asks. And the scorched too, I presume.
He says, especially the scorched. And she says, fine. And she shadow blasts them away to an unknown wrapsman.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Green necroplasm energy.
[00:32:45] Speaker B: And Redeemer's like, hey, she's bumped. Tell me you did. She's like, no, no, he's alive.
[00:32:50] Speaker A: Did you kill him? No, no.
[00:32:52] Speaker B: But she did plop him at a crosswalk in the middle of New York City.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: But she says she simply gave him what he wanted. Freedom from the scorched. And he's like, what the fuck? Yeah.
And so the remaining Scorched are just like, so what are we gonna do now?
Jessica Priest is like, well, let's just add these problems to the ones we already have. We'll figure it out later. So it looks like Jessica Priest has her leader groove back a little bit here.
[00:33:24] Speaker A: Has her hands full too.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah, these, these boys, these boys are so ornery.
[00:33:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: If it weren't for Jessica Priest, they would just be wrestling each other all the time.
[00:33:37] Speaker A: Yeah, they'd just be shooting lasers at each other all over the fucking hideout.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: It'd be such a mess. Such a mess.
So we flash down to hell and there's a castle.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Grayskull.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: It's like a skull shaped cave with just a couple of bright eyes peering out of it. And there's a demon that says, oh, you're a real nasty piece of work, ain't ya?
Goes to see this human that is in the cave.
He's like, we've punished you, We've made you suffer, but in all your years here, you've never broken.
And the human says, hate keeps me going.
He's got as much hate as any of his demon tormentors, maybe more.
And then he like throws some, some knives. He just like was hiding knives in his armpits or something like that. And he throws them at the demon that's talking to him.
They just kind of like bounce off, but it's still the, the aggression is there.
And so the demon gets a big smile and says, ah, so. So what, what do you think? What do you think if, if your, your hate has led you to be more demon than human? What are you going to do if we allow you to go free?
And he says, what will you do with that freedom, Officer Frank?
[00:34:59] Speaker A: And then it pulls back and it's fucking Officer Frank with his. He's like cut his own skin off or it's like melted off.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like. It's like a shredded shirt. Only it's his skin. So you can still see. I. I beat my kids. And he says, I've. I'll get revenge on the person who did this to me. The one who sent me here. My son, Edward Frank.
[00:35:21] Speaker A: Oh my God.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Ah, geez.
He's a terrifying. He's a terrifying muscle Man Johnny.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: Yeah, he's all flayed and he's got his skin barely hanging on.
Pretty crazy.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: He's full of hate, Johnny.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: He's full of hate.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: Got that hate.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: Reveals in this issue.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
Damn.
And just like nestled. Nestled firmly in.
In the spawn cannon too.
It's lovely. We love seeing it.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it's nice of those callbacks. And pull. Pulling those characters back again.
[00:36:01] Speaker B: So then we have scorched skull to end the issue.
And then we have Spawning Ground presents.
Some fan art. And Johnny, it is a wide assortment of Jessica Priest fan art.
Got.
[00:36:18] Speaker A: Yes, it is.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: Some hand drawn art and then some toy photography art. And it's all real good.
This. This lower right.
This lower right Jessica Priest figure looks like it has been modified and customized.
[00:36:36] Speaker A: It might be a completely custom figure because.
[00:36:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that face. That face is.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: The hair is completely different too.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Dang wonder looks like it might be.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: A complete custom or like just a really heavy mod. Yeah.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Interesting. Yeah, it's good work though. It's real good work. Those fucking spikys coming out of her leg there. Some good shit.
Love some Jessica Priestart.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Yep. And then we get the.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Do you need more spawns Universe, Johnny.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: Don't miss these ongoing titles.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: Don't you do it. Don't you dare.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: The King Swan 46 cover is terrifying.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: I was literally just about to say something like that. Holy crap. That is.
If. If I were to open my door and see that, I would close that door and never open it again in my life.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I would just immediately open my doors. All spawn. I'd be like, nope.
No thank you.
[00:37:35] Speaker B: Nope.
I'm just gonna go back to sleep now.
We got the image. Classic set.
And then that.
That spawn issue. One statue for the back toy head.
Nice.
That's scorch number 40. Joni.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: It's over the hill.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: It is.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: It's over the hill. 50 now.
[00:37:56] Speaker B: Or is it 40, I think I. I think it moved to 50 a while ago, but I clearly remember being, like, eight years old and going to the Hallmark store in the mall, and they had the little over the hill section, and when I was, like, 8 years old, over the hill was 40.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: They had, like, the. The cane with the.
With the air horn and the rearview mirror.
Oh, my God, the sign that says old person.
Oh, those were great gag gifts.
And by great gag gifts, I mean they were funny to go look at in the store. I could never imagine purchasing one of those and giving those to a real human being.
[00:38:38] Speaker A: Over the Hill had its moment in the 90s, man.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: But, yeah, Scorch is over the hill.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
But no less satisfying.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: It's still got vigor.
Next up, we got King Swan 44, baby.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we do.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: Roy McConville joint.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, man, it's so good, Johnny.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: It's a lot of fun.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: It's this Kingspawn Might. Might be swinging back to being my favorite of the core four right now.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: This McConville, Yelda, Ray, Senar team up is magic. It's absolute magic.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: Wow.
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
[00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah. We should probably cover them. Coverish.
[00:39:42] Speaker A: And yeah, I've got the. A cover by Juju Pensica and Julio Ferraria.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: It is.
Speaking of creepy covers, Johnny, it is insanely unsettling.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: It's Spawn, but he's all, like, tenderly and, like, wafy because.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: Because we know. We know that Pansika is very good at the exaggerating for effect. And.
Oh, boy, this is a great effect.
He's got, like, very few actual edges. He's just kind of, like, there, but not there, but there, but also not there.
[00:40:25] Speaker A: Raspberry wisp.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah. He, like, tendrils out and kind of like. It's like the fog that's there. He kind of tendrils out into the.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: Fog, and he's got a. He's in a spooky graveyard.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
Spookiest place.
Lots of. Lots of dead trees with no leaves and the. The moon behind a. Behind a cloud in the back there.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: It's excellent. It's excellent. I have cover B. The Tauntaun revolver.
It is all skulls all the way down.
It's like there's.
It's a field of skulls, and Spawn is just sitting on a pile of them, looking like he's. He's got one of them in his hands, and he's looking at it while sitting on a pile of skulls in a field of skulls.
It's.
It's pretty dope.
So many skulls.
[00:41:24] Speaker A: It's Skulltastic.
[00:41:25] Speaker B: Skulltastic.
And, Johnny, the Internet is telling me that there's a third cover that my shop didn't have.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause I probably would have gotten it.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: And I'm very sad that my shop didn't have it because it's a fucking Bjorn Baron's cover, Johnny.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: And it's a seminal Spawn character.
[00:41:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Doing a little bit of his favorite hobby.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Finger painting. Finger painting Easter eggs.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: Oh, it's. Yeah, it's Billy Kincaid with some Easter rabbit ears on.
And he is finger painting Easter eggs.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: And by that we mean finger painting with a child's finger. Yeah.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
And in the background, there is a. Oh, geez. There's a rabbit stabbed to the wall. That's gross.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: But there is. There is a missing poster, and I can't read the words, but I'm wondering.
[00:42:23] Speaker A: Is this for Shirley Johnson?
[00:42:24] Speaker B: All right. I was about to say, looks like it's for Shirley Johnson.
I like the. I like the stuffed spawn.
Like the spawn. Stuffed animal in the background.
[00:42:35] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: Oh, geez. This is an absolutely unsettling cover.
[00:42:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: They got away with it.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: Or I'm wondering if. I'm wondering if the fact that my shop didn't have it means that most people didn't get an option to buy it, because it is.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:57] Speaker B: It is wild.
Oh, man. Oh, I do like that one of the eggs has the little spawn orb painted on it.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: Yeah, Lovely.
With child blood.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Damn that Bjorn Bearance. He puts out a good cover, Johnny.
Yep, he sure does. Well, let's get this nightmare behind us so I don't have to look at that creepy smile anymore.
Pop this open. Give credit where credit is due.
We got script plot by Rory McConville with additional script by Tom McFarlane.
Yildirae Sennaar doing art.
Ivan Nunes doing the color lettering by and World Design.
We covered the covers.
Todd McFarlane is the creative director, and Thomas Healy is the editor in chief.
And previously in Kink, Spawn.
Nothing in hell or on Earth can prevent Spawn from putting a stop to the rampaging wrath.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: Wraith.
[00:43:58] Speaker B: Wraith.
Nothing. Nothing in hell or on earth can prevent Spawn from putting a stop to the rampaging Wraith.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:44:08] Speaker B: There we go. I can't read Bob while I'm reading. I can't read while I'm reading, Johnny. Does that make sense?
[00:44:14] Speaker A: You can't read while you're reading? Sure.
[00:44:16] Speaker B: That's not really what happened previously. That's just More of a. Like a thesis for.
For the next rounds of episode issues, Johnny.
Yeah, because there was no. There was no grand declaration of I will get you, Wraith.
But Johnny, this is a momentous issue, Johnny.
[00:44:36] Speaker A: Why is that?
[00:44:37] Speaker B: Because we know that every new Spawn artist has to at some point have their own take on the pundits. And Johnny. Yes.
We get Yildirae Sinares here. Classic. First page of the issue, we got CRN lady, ride of the pundits. Yeah, I like that his pundits are. Because most everybody's pundits are right in the middle of the frame. And these pundits are to the left side where we see them.
Like, I like. I like that. I like that.
Because, like, for.
For the info Buzz guy, it's because he's got a picture up in the background.
But CRN lady is ready for that picture to go up, even though there's not one.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Right. But it might pop up.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: Very good.
But they're.
They're talking about the attack on the FBI office from the last issue, Johnny. And the. They're not. They're not. They're not too chuffed about it.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: Not too chuffed. And also, I think it has a first time. Something interesting is because I remember at Spawn Con, Thomas Healey was like, ah, we're saying he's been Spawn for about six years.
It says right here, Lieutenant Colonel Al Simmons was believed to have been killed in line of duty six years ago.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Yep, yep, yep. I. I figured we were going to talk about that.
Yeah.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: It actually makes zero sense with the timeline of original Spawn because he died and then went to hell for five. Then he. Five years passed, right?
[00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:11] Speaker A: Yeah. That means he's only been Spawn for.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: A year, I guess.
I don't know, because that was part of the hell. Part of the joke is that he let him. Now both should let him see Wanda again, but only after he had been gone for five years and she had moved on.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: Right. That was part of Malbol's sick trick.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Well, all I can say, Johnny, is the devil works in mysterious ways, don't he?
[00:46:37] Speaker A: So the comic book.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: He's a. He's. He's a Trickster. He's tricksy.
But yeah, so. So CRN lady is, you know, just. You know, just the fact. She's just given the facts. The Infobuzz has a. Has a. Has a man on the inside who's feeding them some. Some, you know, more. More information.
So, like, like, they have a. They have a contact who saw the child who. Spawn used his Bait just, like, appear at the door of the FBI office out of thin air.
And they're like, how?
[00:47:16] Speaker A: What?
[00:47:16] Speaker B: That don't make no sense.
Good old Brock the Shock Johnny. He's telling us it was an inside job. The deep state. He says, yeah, Washington elites, real people.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: All these buzzwords.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
He says, keep a close eye to see if any of those dead FBI agents even existed.
Wow.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Wow, boy.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:47:40] Speaker A: You're gonna get sued.
[00:47:42] Speaker B: Hell, Simmons already told us the military faked his death.
Why is this any different?
Oh, boy.
Yeah, pundits. Fun. I do like how the. The child and the info buzz is also wearing a bow tie.
His little bow tie is like his first communion picture or something like that.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: Right.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: And then. And then we go directly into Terry yelling. And the only person Terry ever yells at is Spawn. So we have to assume he's yelling at Spawn at the front first panel.
And the second panel, we see that, yes, he is yelling at Spot.
So they're. They're in a safe house portion.
They've got.
They've got the child sitting. Andy Wheeler sitting in front of the, like, the operations center for all their missions. So there's just, like, tons of screens, and one of them is showing cartoons.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just watching cartoons on the. Terry's like, man in the chair computer.
[00:48:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
And. And Spawn's like, terry, you're the. You're the only one who can keep this kid safe. I can promise you that. I won't let anything happen to your family.
[00:48:56] Speaker A: Sure, Spawn.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: That anybody believes him at this point is incredible. But he's like, this kid. This kid needs to be safe, Terry. And you're the only person I can trust to do this.
And then Terry gives a jab about Wanda.
[00:49:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Because she. Wish you could have made the same promise for Wanda.
[00:49:18] Speaker B: Yeah. That's a low blow, Terry.
Little guy comes over and says, hey, I'm hungry. You got any food? And Spawn's like, there's this pizza right over there. Dude. You were sitting right next to him.
We cut to him eating the pizza.
[00:49:34] Speaker A: I think it means he made it appear.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, probably.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: That means someone had a pizza in their hand somewhere in the world and went bloop.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: And disappeared.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: That makes sense. That makes more sense than mine.
And then. And then Terry is just like, what did you do to that kid? Why is he. Why is he like this? And Spawn's like, oh, I just fucking blocked his ability to access any of his memories for the time being. So that way he doesn't have to deal with them just yet.
Like, oh, shit, dude.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: It's like, can you hear yourself? You can't just rewrite his brain.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like. But forcing him to deal with his traumas now is not going to do anybody any good.
His paints. He's like. He's like, I didn't take it away from. It's still there inside of him. He just can't get to it.
I just locked it away for a little while.
Terry. Terry does not like this. And Spawn is like, it's the only way. And the. Terry's like, fine, but after this, we're done.
[00:50:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll watch him. But that's it.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And how. Oh, boy.
As. As nobody should believe Al's promises of being able to keep them safe anymore.
No. Al Simon should never believe anybody who says, after this, we're done. Because they.
They always find a way, Johnny.
[00:51:01] Speaker A: They always find a way.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: Let's find a way. And then we cut to the Tinkerer's workshop, where old Tink. Yeah.
Oh, I forgot this guy's name already.
[00:51:13] Speaker A: He's messing with that assassin.
[00:51:14] Speaker B: Yeah, the big.
[00:51:16] Speaker A: The Wraith sent.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
Tinkerer's looking at. Looking at all the bits that are inserted into him because he's got, like, augmentations.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: Cybernetic arms.
[00:51:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then Spawn does the classic. Sneak up on him. And you'll find anything interesting.
Tinker's like, jesus gets the. Out of the Tinker. And I like the.
The Spawn reflected in his glasses is perfect.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: Yeah. They should have the Tinker and Twitch team up, because then you wouldn't be able to tell them ap you do like a parent trap situation.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: Well, no, you'd be able to tell them apart. One of them has a mustache.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: Well, you could grow a mustache.
[00:51:58] Speaker B: Through the course of the story, the Tinkerer grows a mustache and Twitch shaves his off.
[00:52:05] Speaker A: Just to confuse everybody.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: They concoct a plan where Twitch is like, hey, I need to escape from my family for a little bit. But I don't need them to know that I'm escaping. Tinkerer, I need you to fill my place, Tinkerer.
[00:52:21] Speaker A: Get in there.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: But yeah, so Tinkerer is talking about how guy's got a lot of genetic augmentation works. That's been done. So the. The Wraith obviously has some serious resources, and Tinkerer is still looking for some ways to track. To track the Wraith via this body.
So there's a cool thing that he noticed that this guy's arms seem to change the size depending on External factors.
[00:52:51] Speaker A: So what is the size? This is a typo, right?
[00:52:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's got to be a typo.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: It's a V before size.
[00:52:58] Speaker B: I'd like to change my visas just by thinking about it.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: I know it takes a lot of work.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Can you imagine just being like, okay, ah, now I don't have to run for a week. Woo.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: That'd be nice.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: Who needs. Who needs to do all those reps? I can just think of getting that big snaky arm vein up the middle on my bicep.
[00:53:21] Speaker A: Just think about it.
[00:53:25] Speaker B: And so Tinkerer is like, oh, yeah, I took a video of it. Let me show it to you real quick. And so he opens his phone and is like, ah, shit.
And Al says, what is it? And Tinkerer is like, there's a mass shooting at the mall and the person who's doing it is dressed like you.
[00:53:40] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:53:41] Speaker B: Oh. So we flash to the mall. We've got reporter on the scene talking about the gunman is believed to have entered the mall 20 minutes ago, where he opened fires on sharp sharpers on choppers, sharpers at the Sheriffer image.
And so, so far, there are at least 18 casualties and the number is sadly expected to rise.
Then we got inside the mall. We just get a boot, slam it down into a.
[00:54:11] Speaker A: That's where. You know, this is fiction, David. There wouldn't be 18 people inside a mall in the year 2025.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: The mall in my hometown is like completely empty now, and they rent it out as an event space.
[00:54:25] Speaker A: Nice. That's the only thing you get married at the mall.
[00:54:28] Speaker B: You can't get married at the mall.
[00:54:29] Speaker A: You'd register at KB Toys.
[00:54:31] Speaker B: Yeah, you could register at the. Where the KB Toys used to be.
Yeah, like, you can't even. You can't even take pictures next to the fountain because it's just off.
Off and dry.
[00:54:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Promenade Ball. The last time I went, which is a few years ago, the one in Tulsa, they had a hot topic. A Bed Bath or Bed Bath, not Bed Bath Beyond. What's a Bath? And Body Works? And like a T shirt shop. And that was about it.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: Dang dang. And isn't. Isn't Promenade three, four stories? Three stories.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Two, two.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: It was always. It was always the smaller mall too. So that's.
[00:55:12] Speaker A: Yeah, Woodland Hills is always the Holy Grail.
[00:55:16] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus Christ. Well, then, my friends, there's like a new sports. Like, it's a competitor to Bass Pro Shops that's opened up in Woodland Hills Mall.
[00:55:26] Speaker A: Oh, is it the one with like a Ferris wheel in it?
[00:55:28] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah.
[00:55:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard about that.
[00:55:30] Speaker B: It's. It's supposed to be absolutely wild. I wish I could remember what the name of the place is, but. But. So, yeah, we see this guy, and, well, Johnny. Him wear a Spawn mask.
[00:55:40] Speaker A: Yeah. He's dressed like Spawn.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: He's just walking around with his gun.
He's stalking this lady who's hiding.
Very, very tense scene of him walking the aisles and her trying to stay still and quiet and avoid being detected.
But he finds her.
[00:56:00] Speaker A: And there's a KB Toys in the top panel.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
Awesome. Like how they did to chop off everything but the E.
Yeah. So they don't get sued.
But gunman finds her, puts his gun to her head, and she says, please.
And at that moment, a cape and a chain shootout and grab this madman and pull him away.
And we got a nice look.
[00:56:27] Speaker A: You will not get any toys from KB Toys.
[00:56:29] Speaker B: He says, I told you. You have toys at home.
[00:56:33] Speaker A: KB Toys is always insanity.
[00:56:35] Speaker B: It. It very, very poorly organized. It was like.
[00:56:39] Speaker A: It was just like, toys just stuffed everywhere.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: They were like, is that a spot there? Put a toy there. Just put a toy there. Just put another one, like, to the rafters stacked with toys.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: They'd end up. They would end up with a lot of the clearance stuff, too.
[00:56:52] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true.
We'll get this cool shot of Spawn with this guy, like, dangling in front of Spawn's face, wrapped up in these change. And Spawn's spooling up his. His necroplasmic beams. And. And he's like, are you the fucking Wraith?
And the Wraith removes his little mask. Is like, I've always hated that nickname. He's got the wild eyes, these big red eyes.
[00:57:21] Speaker A: And it's like, this man is, like, being possessed by the Wraith.
[00:57:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's like, forget the theatrics. But here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna dig inside this man's head, and you're gonna find an address, and then you're gonna bring the board to that address, and then we'll call it quits.
And Spawn's like, but if I don't. And so the guy's like, turn on the tv. And so Spawn turns on the tv, and there are terrorist attack, terrorist attack, terrorist attack, terrorist attack everywhere, Everywhere. They bomb Sydney Harbor, New Delhi.
I'm going to assume that's an American hospital.
Just everywhere.
And the guy's like, yeah, those are. Those are gonna keep happening, like, every minute that you don't do what I want you to do.
And you can't stop them.
You can't. You can. You can't stop them unless you bring me the boy.
And he's like. Because while we've been talking, a car bomb went off in Beirut. A mass shooting in Reykjavik.
It's not a negotiation, Johnny. He drives a hard bargain.
[00:58:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: And then he, like. Like his.
The head is, like, consumed in necroplasmic flame. And, like, his flesh starts melting off. And it's like the bodies will continue to pile up unless you bring him to me.
So ask yourself, how many lives are you willing to sacrifice to save this boy?
It's like, see you soon. Bye. Bye.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: The head just melts.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: This is.
[00:58:58] Speaker A: Melts off the body of that poor man.
[00:59:01] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we cut to a graveyard, and we've got FBI Agent lynch at his brother's graveside. Ooh. His brother was only 8 years old. Damn.
[00:59:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's right. Because he was one of the.
[00:59:17] Speaker A: He's one of the Wraith.
[00:59:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense.
So it's like, man, I hate being at this grave. My family thought it would be a good thing, but, man, I sure do hate it.
And then Spawn comes up behind him, and Agent lynch is like, what are you doing at my brother's grave?
Spawn says, we're not there. We're in your mind.
You're actually in a coma.
I'm just visiting.
[00:59:41] Speaker A: Yeah, you're recovering from a hospital attack. You're in the hospital recovering from an.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: Attack in the worst hotel room.
And then lynch, like, remembers. He was like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. The fucking everybody. And Spawn's like, no, everything went according to plan. And Agent lynch is like, according to plan?
[01:00:00] Speaker A: You killed half the people I work with.
[01:00:02] Speaker B: I worked with those people. They had lives. They had families.
Spawn says, there's always a cost to war.
War.
Those were real people, innocent people.
And Spawn says, we got what we needed. We're dealing with the Wraith. We can't. We can't. We can't. Well, we can't be beaten around the bush.
And Agent lynch is just like, I thought you were a hero, but you're a butcher.
And Spawn's like, just try to rest, Lynch. Very soon, this will all be over.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: And he's got the boy with him. Is he gonna take the boy to the dress?
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Hey, he's got the boy with him. I mean, he's in a. He's in a. Like, a wicked wood Johnny. I wonder if he's going to see our old pal the steward.
[01:00:50] Speaker A: He's not.
[01:00:51] Speaker B: He's not. He's not. He's not gonna. He's.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: I read the next issue last night, so.
[01:00:55] Speaker B: Oh, no. He doesn't. He doesn't appeal to Green World. Dang. No, no. Sorry, Stuart.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: Sorry to burst your bubble.
[01:01:01] Speaker B: It's very creepy. Final, Final, final image in this issue, Johnny.
[01:01:05] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:01:06] Speaker B: We get the. The Kingspawn crown.
[01:01:12] Speaker A: There it is.
[01:01:12] Speaker B: And, man, so good. Then we get another Spawn. And Grounds presents Johnny. Nice. Some more fan art.
And this time, it is fan art of Al Simmons. Like this. This one that looks kind of like the.
The original. A little bit like the original Clone Wars.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that one's cool.
I like the one with all the graffiti.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good one.
This one that's got the.
It's got the shoelace. Got the shoelace face.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: Gotta love it. Gotta have it.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: It's good art. It's good art.
Need more Sponge Universe, Johnny.
[01:01:50] Speaker A: Always.
[01:01:51] Speaker B: All right, well, don't miss these ongoing titles and. Hey, we read that one.
Yeah, we did the Core four. Good.
Then we get the Image Classic set.
The classic Image Classic set, if you will.
[01:02:08] Speaker A: Yes. And then we get the best toy advertisement.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: The best toy advertisement ever.
[01:02:14] Speaker A: Because when somebody once told me the world's gonna roll, me.
And it's Shrek.
[01:02:19] Speaker B: It's Shrek and Shrek.
[01:02:21] Speaker A: It's a statue of Shrek, and it's that horny dragon.
[01:02:26] Speaker B: They. They set these sightlight these eyelines up intentionally.
[01:02:30] Speaker A: It looks like Shrek's trying to fuck the dragon. Yeah, that's Donkey's wife, Shrek.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[01:02:43] Speaker A: That dragon's pretty cute, though.
[01:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I imagine.
[01:02:49] Speaker A: I can see why Donkey loves her.
[01:02:51] Speaker B: And that's. That's kingspawn44, Johnny.
[01:02:55] Speaker A: That's it. Ending with a Shrek, ending with a shriek.
[01:02:59] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, we might have ended with a Shrek, but this little one right here, as I was talking before the podcast started, we got a new dog. Her name's Moonpie.
And I would rate her to be a pretty good dog.
She's still settling in, but she's a Yorkie, so she's gonna be insane. And we're just waiting for that insanity to show.
I don't know if you know this about Yorkies, Johnny, but every yerky is insane in its own very specific way.
[01:03:28] Speaker A: I didn't know that.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: It's. It's magical. They're.
They're so fucking weird. But I'd rate her a very good girl. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a long way to say Johnny is I think it's time to rate the puppies.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies.
So first up today we had scorch 40 big revelations. I love this issue. I thought it was cool to brought all that stuff back from Eddie's past and Spawn lore with his dad and everything. I liked the reveal of Eddie's Redeemer. I like. We finally know who Redeemer is. That was set up in King Spawn in the back of King Spawn one.
[01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:04:11] Speaker A: So you know, four years ago.
[01:04:15] Speaker B: Dang.
[01:04:16] Speaker A: But now we know the identity of Redeemer and it's Eddie.
[01:04:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Just, just imagine how, how, how disappointing it would have been to have had that been told when they were at the bar.
[01:04:27] Speaker A: Yeah. By the way, I'm Eddie.
[01:04:31] Speaker B: Aw.
[01:04:32] Speaker A: But yeah. So pretty cool.
I love seeing Scovia's art displays. Well the action.
And he's just been killing it this whole time on Scorch.
[01:04:47] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: Thought it was a great story and excited to see where it goes next.
I would give it 4.5. 4.5 KISS jackets.
[01:05:00] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You can only wear one at once, Johnny. Well, I guess you can wear. I guess you can wear all of them.
[01:05:05] Speaker A: You wear four and a half.
[01:05:07] Speaker B: As long as they're not the same size and they bunch up.
[01:05:09] Speaker A: One of them's got a half.
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
I mean, I agree. This book has just been incredible. Continues to be incredible.
And this, this is an in betweener issue.
And it just shows how strong of a writer John Layman is that it doesn't feel like an in between issue. Even though we know that it is because it's an ending happened previously and now we've got starting and there's like.
There's a lot of things brewing. There's a lot of like. What's gonna happen next? Are we gonna follow this, this Father Kilgore bit? How much is that gonna interact with dead Officer Frank?
Two. Two Eddies.
Both alike in dignity.
Will they get along? Probably not. I wouldn't get along with my. Myself. I'm pretty sure.
[01:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think I would either.
[01:06:06] Speaker B: So there's a. There's a whole lot of. There's a whole lot of seeds set and it's going to be exciting to see which ones take off.
I am going to give it four S shaped snake shaped S's.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: That you brand on children in an. Brand on children after taking out of a burning barrel in an alley.
[01:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. After. After lying to them about them not giving me my money.
I gotta have, I gotta fill My time with something, Johnny. I might as well be branding children who don't bring me all the money for the drugs that I gave them. Yeah, well, what else am I supposed to do with my day?
But no, just absolutely fantastic.
And the I. I. Because it's an in betweener, I don't feel I can give it above 4 because I want to reserve that for the inevitable. This arc is going to be absolutely insane, and I need somewhere to go up from.
Yeah, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. I can feel it.
[01:07:06] Speaker A: So next up, we had kingspawn44, and it was continuing this Wraith storyline.
But if this is indeed. I like the street level.
I like what King Spawn's becoming.
These little mini arcs and, like, mysteries and stuff.
It's pretty cool. Yeah, Yildir Sinar.
Love his art.
Yeah. It's just a really fun, like, Spawn story.
It's tackling some of those big issues that, like, the original King Spawn did with, like, his shooting and, like, things like that. It's like being a little darker than mainline Spawn, which I think kind of the point of King Spawn.
[01:07:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:07:52] Speaker A: I'm gonna give it four KB toys.
[01:07:56] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[01:07:56] Speaker A: It's a lot of toys.
[01:07:58] Speaker B: So that's a lot of. That's a lot of cable, man. Could you imagine?
Where would you put all of them if you had four KB toys worth of toys?
[01:08:05] Speaker A: I don't know.
[01:08:06] Speaker B: Oh, man.
You'd have to basically turn into Santa Claus and start giving them away.
[01:08:10] Speaker A: I have, like, three boxes of toys in my closet right now, and I have as much as like, one corner of a KB toys.
[01:08:19] Speaker B: It's. It's Johnny Toys. There we go.
[01:08:23] Speaker A: I do want that new toy, that Lilith action figure.
[01:08:29] Speaker B: It's. Oh, my goodness. It is incredible. The.
What they've been able to do with the wings.
[01:08:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it's.
[01:08:36] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
I mean, you could always hang it from your ceiling, right?
That's. That won't be scary at all, right?
[01:08:44] Speaker A: No.
[01:08:46] Speaker B: You'Ll be able to go to sleep, no problem.
[01:08:48] Speaker A: No problem at all.
[01:08:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I agree. Johnny.
The.
While I was reading it, the only thing I could think to compare this to is.
So he's a bit of a jerk. Chuck Dixon, the. A bit of a. Bit of a nasty man. But the.
The Nightwing solo series that he wrote in the early 90s feels very much like this. Like, it's street level person going around doing stuff, and all of the bad guys are everywhere. Like, there's not one central arc where this bad Guy shows up, you just see this bad guy, then he goes. Goes away. It's like all the bad guys all the time. And it's just like the. Our hero is floating around between all of these different villains that he has to take care of all the time. I like that for Spawn. I like that Spawn can't just spend a whole lot of time brooding on one. Well, he. He spent some time brooding on the Wraith, but there's so many other threats to what he's doing that he. He's just gotta keep moving or else he's gonna get behind.
And also this yield eraser sonara art is choice.
It is so good.
I love this book. This is a great book.
It's.
I am excited about King Spawn weeks again, Johnny.
[01:10:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:10:20] Speaker B: Feels bad. It feels bad having to say that, but yeah, this is incredible. The Wraith is a fucking badass antagonist and yeah, there'll be some fallout with Terry and everything. I agree.
I am going to give it four magically appearing pizzas.
[01:10:49] Speaker A: Ah. Nothing as nice as a magically appearing pizza, you know?
[01:10:53] Speaker B: You know how. How if I could just make pizza magically appear, I could solve so many problems.
[01:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:11:01] Speaker B: It's it that I think that might have to be my answer for the next time anybody asks what superhero or superpower I would want magically appearing pizzas.
[01:11:13] Speaker A: It's pizza time.
[01:11:14] Speaker B: It's pizza o' clock, baby.
[01:11:15] Speaker A: As Spider man says, it's pizza time.
Hey, you just stole that guy's pizza.
[01:11:25] Speaker B: That's from the first one, right?
[01:11:26] Speaker A: Second one.
[01:11:27] Speaker B: Second one. Okay.
[01:11:29] Speaker A: Yeah. It starts. He's a pizza delivery driver.
That second Spider man's so good.
[01:11:35] Speaker B: It's a. It's.
It's very good, Doc Ock. It's very good.
Alfred Molina just is dialed in. Is the craziest man.
[01:11:46] Speaker A: Yeah, he's awesome. We love.
[01:11:49] Speaker B: They don't make them like they like that anymore, do they?
[01:11:52] Speaker A: No, not really.
It was pretty self contained.
I mean, that's. I don't know. Like that's the. Used to do sequels, you know.
[01:12:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the self contained.
[01:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:12:06] Speaker B: You know what?
[01:12:08] Speaker A: I had little teases like Harry was like going to go bad and like, you know, there's threads left. But it was still like a complete experience.
[01:12:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
And also Chicago is in it.
[01:12:23] Speaker A: Is it.
[01:12:24] Speaker B: The elevated trains were filmed in Chicago.
[01:12:26] Speaker A: That's in the first one.
[01:12:27] Speaker B: That's in the first.
[01:12:28] Speaker A: No, that's in the second one. You're right.
[01:12:29] Speaker B: Oh, wait. Yeah.
You're right.
[01:12:33] Speaker A: You're right. Sorry.
[01:12:35] Speaker B: I was gonna correct you I mean.
I mean, you definitely know more about a Raimi than I do.
[01:12:42] Speaker A: I used to be. I mean, I still am, but I was like, obsessed with Sam Raimi in high school.
[01:12:46] Speaker B: I mean, for good reason. He's a funny man.
[01:12:48] Speaker A: He's a good man. Good director.
He's a great director. He's my friend.
[01:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah, we're gonna have him on the podcast next week. Yeah, I. I wish. I wish that would happen.
[01:13:01] Speaker A: I wish you could direct it. He would be great for a violator movie.
[01:13:04] Speaker B: You think, you think he. You think he's on Instagram? We can just reach out to him.
[01:13:07] Speaker A: Probably not.
[01:13:08] Speaker B: I mean, well, Bruce Campbell, probably. Bruce Campbell is. We could probably reach out to Bruce Campbell, be like, hey, Bruce, you get.
[01:13:14] Speaker A: A Sam Raimi, please?
[01:13:15] Speaker B: Or, or. Or we should start off with. With asking him to be on the podcast. Could you imagine if we got fucking Bruce Campbell on this goddamn podcast? Johnny, that would be so incredible.
[01:13:27] Speaker A: This Bond guy around and I'm like, who does this jamoke think he is?
[01:13:39] Speaker B: We'd have to. We'd have to find an issue that has someone with a nice prominent chin, so that way he'd have something to talk about.
[01:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure he's.
[01:13:46] Speaker B: I don't.
[01:13:46] Speaker A: I don't know.
[01:13:47] Speaker B: I don't know about these chinless fellows.
[01:13:49] Speaker A: He's just endless stories, so he'd have plenty to talk about.
[01:13:52] Speaker B: That would be great. That would be great. It would fill in all of our dead air.
[01:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Speaking of filling dead air, while you're doom scrolling, give yourself a little bit of a nice oasis of friendship within the Spawnmunity, Johnny.
[01:14:06] Speaker A: Yes. Within the Spawn Instagram community.
[01:14:10] Speaker B: It's a lovely oasis from the nonsense that is floating around.
[01:14:14] Speaker A: Absolutely. And this week we wanted to highlight someone who's featured in the Scorched.
[01:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:14:20] Speaker A: And it's a Jessica Prigg art by Mark Marvita. And it's at Mark Marvita.
[01:14:27] Speaker B: That's M A R K, M A R V I D A.
And for the fan art page, it is the middle picture on the top of Jessica Priest, like jumping into action.
It's. It's very dynamic. It's very dynamic.
[01:14:46] Speaker A: He's got a badass, like, Reaper, Medieval Spawn, Haunt Spawn.
Got some Overwatch characters.
[01:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:14:58] Speaker A: Grifter from Wildcats.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
Grifter has to be so much fun to draw.
[01:15:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:15:06] Speaker B: You know, he's got some Spider Man, 2099, all kinds of cool stuff. He's got Blue Beetle. Hell yeah. He's got hawkman. He's got Dr. Fate.
He's got fucking. What's his name from the X Men. Oh, who is that? I don't remember his name. Oh, Mr. Sinister. It says right there, Mr. Sinister.
It's a good ass. Mr. Sinister.
Yeah, it's a good time. Give him a follow.
Like his stuff.
[01:15:32] Speaker A: Please do.
[01:15:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:15:35] Speaker A: While you're over on Instagram, make sure to give us a follow. We are regarding spawn Pod.
Regarding Swan Pod.
And then you could also send us an email at. Regarding spawnpodmail.com.
[01:15:47] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:15:48] Speaker A: And this week, my question for an email would be, what do you think of KB Toys?
Did you used to buy a lot of spawn figures there? Was it a good spot to get toys?
Was it a bad spot to get toys? I used to love it because they'd have shit on clearance. I got like Waterworld figures there for like a dollar each.
I got like the fucking jet ski, like two of them for like $2 each.
[01:16:12] Speaker B: A move, a movie that shouldn't have been. Action figure.
[01:16:17] Speaker A: Waterworld.
That's fine.
[01:16:21] Speaker B: Oh, I loved Water World, though. Oh, man. I, I, I tried to make myself a machine that turned pee into water and it did not work.
[01:16:29] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
I just like the action.
[01:16:37] Speaker B: Oh, man.
I will tell you right now, Johnny, I never got a single spawn figure from KB Toys because that was the section of the aisle my mom wanted me to stay away from.
[01:16:47] Speaker A: The evil spawn toys.
[01:16:48] Speaker B: Evil spawn toys. And usually, usually we, we usually didn't buy, we only bought toys at KB Toys for a special occasion. Much like Toys R Us. Yes, the regular, the regular quotidian everyday toys.
[01:17:04] Speaker A: We got that at Walmart, Walmart or Target. Yeah, yeah.
[01:17:08] Speaker B: But it was, it had to be. It had to be a special occasion. Like, it was usually my.
I remember very clearly getting some birthday Jurassic park figures from KB Toys.
[01:17:21] Speaker A: Hell yeah. I remember getting some Jurassic park figures.
[01:17:22] Speaker B: From KB Toys too, because I got the, I got the set that had the V from, from the Lost World, that had the car with the seat that, that goes out so you could shoot. And then the, the, the Friar Tuck dinosaur with the, you pushed a button and its head went and you could ram.
[01:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[01:17:41] Speaker B: I remember getting that.
[01:17:42] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:17:43] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. I also think I got a Dino Damage something or other.
[01:17:47] Speaker A: That is a Pachycephalosaurus.
[01:17:49] Speaker B: Pachycephalosaurus. The Friar Tech.
The problem with the Dino Damage toys is you always ended up losing the bit that comes out. So it was just like perma. Dino damage.
[01:18:01] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like your whole herd's like, bleeding out.
[01:18:07] Speaker B: An absolutely amazing marketing scheme, though.
[01:18:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And the feel, real skin. And the. The branding look for the mark of Jurassic Park.
[01:18:17] Speaker B: Capey toys. Pretty good.
I miss it.
[01:18:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
Sad, sad. But we got reminded. We got. We got to go to the mall and see one in Kingspawn.
[01:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:28] Speaker A: So hit us up on Gmail. We'll have more episodes of the show. Yeah, we're gonna do more. We're ready to do more.
[01:18:34] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: But what are we gonna read for this next episode, David?
[01:18:40] Speaker B: I don't know. That requires some thinking. Let me think about it.
Um, I'm seeing a howdy.
[01:18:48] Speaker A: A howdy.
[01:18:49] Speaker B: Seeing some dusty boots.
[01:18:53] Speaker A: Are you seeing a tall hat, perhaps?
[01:18:55] Speaker B: Ooh, I am seeing a pair of saloon doors that all you can see above it is the tall hat.
[01:19:01] Speaker A: That means it's gonna be a gunslinger episode.
[01:19:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then those saloon doors open and the whole saloon goes quiet. The peony stops and the gunslinger steps.
[01:19:14] Speaker A: Toward the bar, and he goes. Next week on Respawn, they're gonna be reading Deadly Tales 5 and Gunslinger Number 42.
[01:19:25] Speaker B: Absolutely. And then they give him a whiskey.
[01:19:28] Speaker A: Then they give him a whiskey.
That sounds fun. What's a podcast? This is the Old West.
[01:19:34] Speaker B: And then the piano starts back up again. And then all the other ruffians are playing their poker game.
[01:19:40] Speaker A: They go back to their drinks.
[01:19:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
A tumbleweed blows by outside.
[01:19:46] Speaker A: Cool. So, yeah, we'll have a double gunslinger. Deadly Tales of gunslinger number five and gunslinger number 42.
[01:19:54] Speaker B: Hell yeah. It's time for some root and toot. Double wielding.
[01:19:58] Speaker A: Yep. Pew, pew.
[01:20:00] Speaker B: Pew, pew. Excellent. Well, man, if you like us, please follow us on Instagram. As previously said, subscribe to us anywhere you get your podcasts, rate us.
It helps bring new, new listeners.
If you know anybody who likes Spawn or understands Cats the musical jokes, send them our way. We'd love to wear love to brighten their days.
[01:20:30] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:20:31] Speaker B: Absolutely.
I was. Oh, I was listening to something earlier this week, Johnny, and there was a choice Dark Tower reference just, like, put right in.
Now. I think it was another podcast, but it was a reference to. And then the fourth one will be a Wizard in Glass, where they go back in time. And I was like, ha.
Half blame the train is a pain, Johnny, Even though that's from the wastelands.
[01:20:57] Speaker A: That's from the wastelands.
[01:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. That's why I said, even though it's. But I mean, I guess they do technically start wizarding glass on Blaine the train.
[01:21:05] Speaker A: Yes. And they break his brain.
[01:21:07] Speaker B: Yeah, they break his brain. And then. And then while they're. While they're resting, after that is Roland's story of wizard and Glass.
[01:21:15] Speaker A: Right.
[01:21:16] Speaker B: I like how every time there's a new story in the Dark Tower series, now, it is. It is that. It's just at the camp. It always starts off with. At the campfire, Roland tells them a story of something else.
[01:21:28] Speaker A: Right.
[01:21:30] Speaker B: Winch through the Keyhole was pretty good. If you ever. Did you ever read that?
[01:21:33] Speaker A: No.
[01:21:34] Speaker B: Oh, it was pretty great.
It's basically Jake. Jake befriends a tiger.
Pretty cool. Like, I actually think the tiger was like an escape. Like a mutated escaped tiger from a merry go round. Like, it gained sentience and became a predator.
Like, it should have been interesting. It's very interesting.
I need to reread the Dark.
[01:21:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been in a Stephen King mood since reading Misery, so, I mean, it's.
[01:22:05] Speaker B: It feels so easy to just be like, ah, Stephen King. Bah. Stephen King rocks.
[01:22:10] Speaker A: Dude, he does.
[01:22:11] Speaker B: I mean, he's popular for a reason. Because he is very good.
He's very good. Maybe we could get Stephen King on this podcast.
[01:22:21] Speaker A: Well, the problem with this Spawn guy is he's dead.
And what's dead is dead.
Oh, it sounds something like that.
[01:22:38] Speaker B: All right. I don't know. I don't know.
Either that or. Yeah, I. I can imagine. We can get the Todd father and Stephen King and they could just talk about baseball.
[01:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah, they both love baseball.
[01:22:50] Speaker B: Baseball and classic rec.
It's all you need. It's all you need. You know what, Johnny? You know what else?
[01:22:57] Speaker A: All you need is Lonnie Bones.
[01:23:00] Speaker B: We've. Oh, yeah. Lonnie Bones is all you need.
Lonnie Bones is all you need.
[01:23:05] Speaker A: Lonnie Bones does our music. Look for them wherever you get music. Lonnie Bones. Lonnie with a. Yeah.
[01:23:12] Speaker B: He's not Canadian, so he doesn't have the ie. Yeah, Not. Not that I. I don't think he would mind being Canadian. It's just that he isn't Canadian.
[01:23:20] Speaker A: Right.
[01:23:20] Speaker B: It's not like he's got animosity toward the Northerners.
Okay, well, on that note, Johnny, I think I've run out of things to say, so. I had nothing to say, Johnny, but may the Scorch be with you.
[01:23:35] Speaker A: Honestly? With you, David?
[01:23:36] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[01:23:37] Speaker A: Hell yeah.
[01:23:39] Speaker B: Could you imagine if we got fucking any of those people on this show? Bruce Campbell or Sam Raimi or Todd McFarlane.
[01:23:47] Speaker A: Why are you talking about this? We're never gonna have them on the show. Maybe Todd McFarlane, but, like, I don't know about Sam fucking Raimi.
[01:23:54] Speaker B: I'm saying imagine it just like that would be wild.
[01:23:57] Speaker A: It'd be weird to make them read Spawn, that's for sure.
[01:24:00] Speaker B: It sure would. Well, but I mean, maybe if. If Sam Raimi does the spawn, could you imagine the same Raimi spawn movie? Oh, boy.
[01:24:06] Speaker A: You should do a Violator movie.
[01:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah, he should do a Violator. It would be better at the Violator. That is true.
And then who would Bruce Campbell be in the Violator of Verse?
Would he just be. Would he just be like some guy who's that.
[01:24:21] Speaker A: That, like, army guy that's chasing after of.
[01:24:25] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[01:24:27] Speaker A: In the original Violator series, the admonisher.
[01:24:32] Speaker B: The admonisher. He's gonna. He's gonna give him a. A stern tongue lashing.
[01:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. He'd be the admonisher.
[01:24:38] Speaker B: That would be. That would be a beautiful Bruce Campbell character.
[01:24:41] Speaker A: That'd be perfect.
[01:24:42] Speaker B: Hell yeah. We should write them. You think they take solicitations, say, hey, please write this.
[01:24:48] Speaker A: I know they can't get a Spawn movie off the ground, but how about a Violator move movie?
[01:24:52] Speaker B: Yeah, they could get John Leguizamo to recap his. Himself as the guy.
[01:24:57] Speaker A: Who else would play? Yeah, of course. Who else could no one complain like you can. No one's going to.
[01:25:08] Speaker B: I mean, he only speaks the truth. Johnny Moulin Rouge, he's the magical sitar who only speaks the truth.
[01:25:16] Speaker A: You are beautiful.
[01:25:18] Speaker B: You are ugly.
[01:25:20] Speaker A: And you are.
And they cut him off because he's talking about, dude, the Duke.
[01:25:27] Speaker B: Oh, man. Could you imagine if we got Baz Luhrmann on this?
[01:25:30] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:25:31] Speaker B: Could you imagine? He could give us. He could give us some pointers for our.
Like, your energy is being wasted here. Yeah, you gotta do this.
[01:25:41] Speaker A: Man.
[01:25:42] Speaker B: That would be fun. Could you imagine this? This part podcast edited, like a Baz Lurman film.
[01:25:48] Speaker A: Shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo. We'd just be going all over the place, which we kind of do so maybe make sense.
[01:25:53] Speaker B: We just. We just need to add the right sound effects, man. Baz Lurman needs to make a new movie.
[01:25:59] Speaker A: Yeah, he's working on something. I can't remember what it is now.
[01:26:01] Speaker B: Cuz the. The last one he made was the. Was Elvis. Right.
[01:26:04] Speaker A: It takes him like four or five years or longer to make each movie.
[01:26:07] Speaker B: So, I mean, I can see why.
I can see why I need to watch Strictly Ballroom. Not Strictly Ballroom.
[01:26:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:26:17] Speaker B: Is it Strictly Ballroom?
[01:26:18] Speaker A: This first movie? Yeah.
[01:26:19] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah, Yeah, I need to watch that. I never have right now.
[01:26:24] Speaker A: Oh, that's what it is.
He's working on Something about the life of Joan of Arc.
[01:26:29] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. He's got.
Hell yeah.
[01:26:35] Speaker A: That's wild. That's gonna be wild.
[01:26:37] Speaker B: That's gonna be so calling it now, best movie of the year.
[01:26:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna be insane. Like all our visions and stuff. Like I can imagine.
[01:26:45] Speaker B: Even if it's bad, it's gonna be an absolute feast.
[01:26:48] Speaker A: I don't think he's made a bad movie.
[01:26:49] Speaker B: I don't, I don't think. Well, I haven't seen all of them, but I don't. I don't think any of them are bad. I could see why some people wouldn't like them.
[01:26:56] Speaker A: Oh yeah, of course. But they're just not in your face. I've seen all of them, David.
[01:27:02] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:27:02] Speaker A: Even Australia.
[01:27:04] Speaker B: I haven't seen Australia.
[01:27:05] Speaker A: It's pretty good.
[01:27:07] Speaker B: It's got.
That's got a Jackman. That's real big, right?
[01:27:11] Speaker A: Hugh Jackman.
[01:27:12] Speaker B: A Hugh Jackman and Hugh Jackman.
[01:27:15] Speaker A: Nicole Kidman.
[01:27:16] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
[01:27:17] Speaker A: And David Wenham is the villain.
[01:27:19] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
[01:27:21] Speaker A: You know him?
Faramir.
[01:27:23] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, nice. But he can't be bad guy. He's a bad guy, I guess. Is he a good bad guy?
[01:27:32] Speaker A: He's a good. He makes plays a good bad guy.
[01:27:34] Speaker B: But he's not bad guy. Hell yeah. Okay. I should. The, the problem is I feel like I'd have to block off an entire week because isn't it like three and a half hours long?
[01:27:41] Speaker A: It's long, yeah. It's like trying to be like Gone with the Wind or something.
[01:27:44] Speaker B: Here I am wondering how I'm gonna fit in a 87 minute movie at any given time.
[01:27:52] Speaker A: They did make it into. They edited it into a miniseries.
[01:27:55] Speaker B: Oh, so it's. So it's the same. It's the same footage, just edited.
[01:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Far away down. See how they call it.
[01:28:00] Speaker B: Okay. I thought it was when I saw it, I thought it was a series based off of the movie.
[01:28:07] Speaker A: No, it's. It's the same people. It's, it's just, it's just they added more content and edited into like a miniseries type format, which is nice. Intriguing.
They also did that with the Hateful Eight.
[01:28:21] Speaker B: Interesting.
[01:28:21] Speaker A: They added like a three part series.
[01:28:24] Speaker B: Interesting.
Hmm. Well, they should have made it eight parts.
[01:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah, they have all.
[01:28:32] Speaker B: Hateful Eight lost the. They lost the, they lost the narrative there, didn't they?
[01:28:36] Speaker A: Sure did.
[01:28:38] Speaker B: Uh huh.
So did we, so I think we did too.
Oh boy.
[01:28:45] Speaker A: Well, David, you owe me some strawberries, so.
[01:28:48] Speaker B: Oh yeah, Yeah. I better go get to picking them.
[01:28:50] Speaker A: Yeah, get to work. I want my strawberries. And then you got to drive all the way across town to give them to me?
[01:28:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, they're. They're best same day, so that's the way it's got to be.
[01:29:01] Speaker A: Get your ass in gear, all right?
[01:29:03] Speaker B: Yes, sir.
Strawberries.
[01:29:14] Speaker A: Sam.
[01:29:40] Speaker B: Sa.