Episode 180 - Gunslinger 50 weith guest Tiny Spawny!

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Jessica Spawn, gunslinger. None are of any use. As Terry realizes he has no idea what to do next. Good evening and welcome to the Malibu. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I am your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:49] Speaker B: And I'm your co host, David Williams. And Johnny. It's strawberry season. Have I mentioned that already? But it's strawberry. [00:00:57] Speaker A: No, you haven't. You always mention everything. [00:00:58] Speaker B: It's. It's strawberry season. And once again, I am baffled by how difficult it is to convince people to take and eat strawberries. [00:01:07] Speaker A: So strawberries in some situations are kind of considered kind of sexy, right? Or romantic. [00:01:13] Speaker B: Well, hopefully people. Hopefully people at work don't take it that way. [00:01:17] Speaker A: No, I mean somebody. No, but like in culture, like trying to come for strawberries. Like Valentine's Day. So. David, I don't know if you realize. I think I just realized this is officially respawn nights. This is after dark. I think this is the latest we've ever started recording on an episode. [00:01:33] Speaker B: Probably, probably saying I should go chocolate cover some of these bad boys. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Yeah, get the chocolate cover strawberries going. Get in the Ian Malcolm pose. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Let me go find some candles. [00:01:44] Speaker A: But David, I hope you're okay with this. We're having what I would call a menage trois because we have a guest. [00:01:52] Speaker B: I guess. I guess I'm going to have to be okay with it. [00:01:55] Speaker A: I'm asking for consent, David. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah, you received. [00:01:58] Speaker A: You booked him. You booked him. [00:02:01] Speaker B: I guess that means it's implied consent if I book them. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, no, but it's. It's respawn nights, so who knows what's gonna happen? [00:02:10] Speaker B: We never do. We never do. [00:02:11] Speaker A: But that's why we have someone to help guide us. A Spawn expert collector and our friend. [00:02:19] Speaker B: A sure Spawn, if you. If you will. Like a Sherpa. Only a Spawn Sherpa. That's a little sweaty. [00:02:28] Speaker A: I heard a story from like a few months ago that Sherpers are like got in trouble because they're like leading people down places they couldn't get out of and like making deal with the helicopter pilots had to rescue them. [00:02:40] Speaker B: I mean, that's their job. And they. They have like what, two. Two solid months of work. [00:02:45] Speaker A: And that's it for introduce him. [00:02:47] Speaker B: No, we haven't yet. [00:02:49] Speaker A: It's Tiny Spawn, our Sherpa. [00:02:51] Speaker B: It's Tiny Mark sp. [00:02:54] Speaker C: Tiny. Tiny's here for the. For the sleepover. I brought. I brought my PJs in my, my. My Spider man sleeping bag. [00:03:00] Speaker A: And I definitely watched Spawn of VHS at a sleepover at One point in my life. [00:03:05] Speaker C: Yeah, the. [00:03:05] Speaker A: The 19. Oh yeah. And I remember watching because my friend had HBO in his room and that would have been the first time I saw. We saw watch Spawn, the Animated series. That was the most up thing. Oh yeah, that's probably like anime with that premiere. Like 94, 95. [00:03:20] Speaker C: The animated. [00:03:21] Speaker A: I think. Yeah, I think it's 93. Like it's between 93 and 95. [00:03:25] Speaker B: I think it says 1997. What? [00:03:30] Speaker A: So I was in fifth grade. Really? [00:03:33] Speaker B: Yeah. May 16th, 1997 was the premiere. [00:03:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I have, I have the Steel book, actually. I have several of these. [00:03:43] Speaker B: That was the same year as the movie, huh? [00:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. I remember seeing that late at night. So I guess it was in fourth or fifth grade, depending on what you said. May 97. [00:03:53] Speaker B: Yeah, May 97. [00:03:54] Speaker A: So I was in fifth grade and [00:03:56] Speaker B: it went for two years. [00:03:58] Speaker A: I remember watching at my friend's house because he had issued his room and I thought it was. [00:04:02] Speaker C: The Animated is way, way better than the, than the movie. [00:04:05] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Oh yeah. I mean they're night and day. [00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it's so good. [00:04:10] Speaker C: And when the, like the actual movie from 97, you know, when I was doing my, my research for the. The YouTube video that I did on it, I sat there and watched the director's cut and the regular cut back to back. And there is very, very, very minimal difference. [00:04:26] Speaker A: Like it's a little more gory. Like when he blows up, it's like [00:04:29] Speaker C: there's more explosion on the gore. But I realized, see, I watched the, the theatrical cut first and then I watched the director's cut second. And if you watch a theatrical cut and if you're really paying attention, there's a couple times where instead of reshooting a scene, they just re recorded dialogue over the. The actual, you know, footage. So yeah, John Leguizamo's mouth is a quiet line up with the dialogue that he says there. Like they changed like one word or something. They change it from like fiance to wife or something. But in the scene where at the end of the movie where Jason Wynn comes into the house and he catches Terry on the computer, Terry turns to look at him and he has blood on the side of his face. I'm like, where did that come from? Like he was fine just a second ago. Well, if you watch the director's cut, Jason actually shoots the computer screen and it blows up and Terry kind of turns his face to the side and cuts him. So they didn't edit it. Right. So he has like a Cut for no reason. In the regular movie, if you're really paying attention, I'm like, they're probably like, [00:05:32] Speaker A: kids are gonna shoot their computers. We can't have the same movie. [00:05:34] Speaker C: There's very. There is very little that they actually cut out. But they. And the directors come to like, yeah, this is the way that the director wanted it. And it was so much more. I'm like, they. There was no difference. Like, in today's standards. [00:05:46] Speaker A: The one there was on that Arrow, though. Arrow Deluxe special edition that just came out, which is always on sale on Amazon. If you haven't gotten. [00:05:54] Speaker C: Oh, it's on Amazon. [00:05:54] Speaker A: I know you have it. [00:05:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I bought it. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Arrow sells through Amazon. They do sales on there sometimes, but they do direct sales, too. [00:06:01] Speaker C: I pre ordered it from Arrow Video actually, when it came out, because it [00:06:04] Speaker A: was like, it's awesome. [00:06:06] Speaker C: I. I ended up getting like, two copies. And that's actually what I watched when I sit there and was watching it. So. [00:06:11] Speaker A: But the special features are really good because they show clips like Michael J. Talks about the. Recorded this whole stuff with Wanda because that's the one thing that fails about the movie. They never show him with Wanda. They never show him with him. You one flashback or something. [00:06:24] Speaker C: Because, I mean. And according to, you know, Michael J. White, like, they shot like a whole completely different movie. But by the time they got done with it, because really, the studio. The studio saw the beginning stuff that Mark had. Depay had done, and they're like, oh, my God, this is great. You know, you have full reign over this movie. You can do whatever you want. He goes, oh, okay. So he just basically trashed the beginning of the movie and added in all the effects and CGI and everything and just, I mean, tanked it. That's why Michael Jai White hates the movie because. Yeah. [00:06:57] Speaker A: Well, that you can tell the ending in hell is just, like, made up. [00:07:02] Speaker C: I don't. [00:07:02] Speaker A: Because there's spawns just like doing this in the background. [00:07:05] Speaker C: Yeah, those are all. Those are all like, you know, different shots of Michael Jai White. Like, they just, you know, just moving around, reproduce. But I don't remember and I can't remember where I heard it, but the Malbolia, you know, they didn't use the puppet. [00:07:20] Speaker A: They did a pup. They did a stop motion. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:21] Speaker C: At the very end of the movie, they grabbed a. The. The model for Malbolia is actually an unused CGI version of the werewolf from American Werewolf in London. And they took it and they stretched it out to make it look like Malbolia but they didn't have time to get it rendered or everything, so they just sent it off like, you know, and that it was done. And then they try to say, oh, well, they don't have m. Bolia talk, because, you know, that's him talking through hell. It's like, no, you guys didn't get it done, so shut up. Don't you. Don't give me that. [00:07:53] Speaker A: Yeah, no, there. The trading card has the. [00:07:55] Speaker B: I was about to say, one of [00:07:56] Speaker A: us got the trading card for the movie, which I bought at. I bought at Spawn Hunter's booth at Spawn Con. I got a box of. [00:08:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I. I actually just got those. The movie cards. [00:08:07] Speaker A: And one of the cards has the original Mount Bullshit Puppet. It's what the toy for the movie is based on, too. Yeah, yeah, the toy is based on that. [00:08:15] Speaker B: More puppets. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:17] Speaker C: I don't have. I don't have mouth. [00:08:19] Speaker A: There are puppets in Mandalorian. [00:08:20] Speaker B: There were puppets in the Mandalorian big pipe. Huh? [00:08:24] Speaker A: Those are. Those two robots were Stop motion. [00:08:26] Speaker C: They were. [00:08:26] Speaker A: Phil Tippett. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was super cool. The, like, sentinels from the Mandalorian and Grogu. [00:08:33] Speaker C: Oh, I. I have not seen. Not. Not watching. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah, no one saw it. According to the box office. Everyone saw back rooms. [00:08:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I've heard that the. The Grogu movie is not doing well. [00:08:43] Speaker A: It's not. It's had, like, a big drop. But we're not here to talk about Grogu. No, we're here to talk about. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Surprisingly. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Surprisingly, we don't talk a lot about Grogu. He's fine. Mid Star wars for me. I like Star wars, but Mandalorians like Mid for me. I like the soap opera of the family story. [00:08:59] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:09:00] Speaker A: I like the grandiose, but we haven't mentioned it, Johnny. [00:09:04] Speaker B: But there is fire Y wing representation in the Mandalorian and Grogu. [00:09:09] Speaker A: Okay, great. [00:09:09] Speaker B: There's Y wings all over that. [00:09:11] Speaker A: I remember seeing one B wing, man. [00:09:13] Speaker B: I love a Y wing. [00:09:14] Speaker A: But we're here to discuss the Malbol Jalorian Spawn who's born of the Malbolge. And we are here for Gunslinger 50. Last week or a couple weeks last episode with Mark, we had. [00:09:32] Speaker B: We did King spawn 50 50. And then. [00:09:35] Speaker A: And Todd McFarlane made the choice to make these three a trilogy. So King Swan 50, Gunslinger 50, and Scorch 50 all perform a trilogy with chapters kind out of order, but kind of. [00:09:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:46] Speaker A: And like a classic Todd McFarlane, like, gotcha way. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Like, so you have to have to buy them all to get the full stuff. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah, he saw Pulp Fiction on Pluto TV and was like, here's what I'm going to do. The chapters, all out of order. He's like, you know that the show's on Pluto TV a lot. But no, we're discussing Gunslinger 50, which has very little Gunslinger. That's probably why you had a tough time remembering it, David, because, yeah, there's very little. It doesn't feel like a gunslinger issue for sure. [00:10:10] Speaker B: There's like four pages of Gunslinger, and half of those four pages are him. Him recounting a dream he had. Isn't. Isn't that a dream? Is it a flashback to an actual thing? [00:10:24] Speaker A: He escaped. Yeah, he escaped. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:10:26] Speaker C: But the. Yeah, the Gunslinger 50 was the only one that I went above and beyond and got the, the higher covers. I went with the 1 in 100. So I know those of you on the, on your. On the audio podcast port of this can't see it, but I have the. [00:10:42] Speaker A: We like to talk about the. [00:10:44] Speaker C: The 50 or the. This is the 101 in 100 incentive cover. It's just the virgin variant. And then with my LCs, you know, I, I had to buy. [00:10:55] Speaker B: And that's the. That's the Todd McFarlane. [00:10:57] Speaker A: This is the. [00:10:57] Speaker C: This is the Todd McFarlane. I mean, the COVID A is the trade dress. And then I get the. The virgin variant was the 1 in 100. And then like with my LCS, they treat me very well. I had to buy. I mean, I literally had to buy. I have 90 copies of. Of this book. So, you know, if anybody didn't get one, just let me know. But then I also got both of the. Since I got the one in one. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:11:25] Speaker C: The. The one in 50s. Oh, hell yeah, one in 50s. And the one in 100. And then plenty of. Of copies of all the. That. [00:11:36] Speaker B: That Mark Spears cover is pretty great. [00:11:38] Speaker C: Yeah, it is. [00:11:39] Speaker A: It's awesome. They're all fun. [00:11:41] Speaker C: I don't know where the other one is, but yeah, I have. I have two copies of that and then the one in 100. But yeah, usually I don't go for the higher books, but I mean, when it's gunslinger, I was like, I have to. Yeah. Yeah. [00:11:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's awesome. That's great. [00:11:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:52] Speaker A: And then they're all great covers. [00:11:54] Speaker B: They're good covers. They got that silly Scotty Young cover where he's, like, doing the Yosemite Sam where he's shooting himself off the ground. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah, that's really good. [00:12:04] Speaker B: What in tarnation? [00:12:06] Speaker C: Although I don't know, if they started it with the Gunslinger 50, I'd have to find it. But the blank covers are a dollar more. Yeah, the blank. The blank variants are a dollar more. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Weird. [00:12:21] Speaker C: I think I set them right over here. [00:12:23] Speaker A: That one in 50 by Mark Spears is excellent, though. [00:12:25] Speaker B: It is, it is. It's. Man, I love a Mark Spears cover. And it's got that nice blue colorway. [00:12:33] Speaker C: This one, no, they did not do it for the Gunslinger on this one, but I think it's. No, it was the first time that we noticed it was on the she Spawn Blank. It was a dollar more. And then, like, the next book after that was a dollar more than the other covers. I'm like, why are we paying a dollar more for a blank cover? [00:12:54] Speaker A: What's crazy? You go to any Comic Con in, like, any place, there's these racks of those. [00:12:58] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Like, if you go to, like, a Con, like, there's just racks of blank covers usually. Maybe some of them are particular ones, are rare. I don't know. [00:13:05] Speaker C: Yeah, but I mean, this is just a straight. Like. But I mean, this one doesn't anymore. I'm still, you know, $5, but I'm. It's just a plain blank gunslinger cover. Yeah. [00:13:13] Speaker A: But then I like in the McFarland one, they shooting through his own cape or someone's. He's. They're shooting. [00:13:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shooting through the. [00:13:19] Speaker A: They shot out 50. [00:13:20] Speaker C: Shooting through his duster. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Todd McFarland likes his numbers. [00:13:25] Speaker B: He sure does. [00:13:26] Speaker C: Yeah. He. Well, he. Yeah, he says, you know, if it's a. If it's a milestone, you know, book, there needs to be something that's gonna help to identify it from just like another regular cover. So, you know, people will instantly know that that's the. The milestone cover, so to speak. [00:13:43] Speaker B: So, I mean, it makes sense. It's like a. It's like a mile marker. You always look for those good mile markers. [00:13:50] Speaker A: We mentioned all the names. Do we cover the covers? Do we do it? [00:13:54] Speaker B: We. We kind of. We kind of. We kind of stumbled through a few of them. We didn't talk about, A, the A cover or the B cover. The Puppeteer Lee cover. [00:14:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:14:03] Speaker B: That is just fucking badass. Because it's Puppeteer Lee and it's spooky hobby. [00:14:08] Speaker C: Which was it. Was it, you guys, the last time that it said that the Puppeteer League covers are connecting covers that I didn't notice? [00:14:16] Speaker B: Was it. Was it the Puppeteer Lee or was it the Scotty? [00:14:19] Speaker C: I was told that the Puppeteer Lee covers are also Connecting. But the Scotty. Yeah, the Scotty covers do. But somebody had said that the Puppeteer League covers are connecting also. For the other books, [00:14:32] Speaker B: Gunslinger and Scorched go on either side of Kingspawn, then. Yes, but I don't think they quite. Or is that. No, that's. That's nothing. That's nothing. [00:14:41] Speaker C: No, that's King Spawn's cape. It looks like. I don't have my King Spawn puppeteer Lee in front of me. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't have the. I don't think I have the Puppeteer Lee version of King Spawn. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Huh? [00:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I think. I think I got the Scotty Young version for that one. [00:14:59] Speaker A: They. The covers exemplify the spirit and celebration. See, that's the thing. Here's my great thesis on. This is like, I feel like a 50. It shouldn't be, like, some weird connected plot to, like, other books. Like, it should be a celebration of what the 50 gunslingers have been, which are like crazy adventures with dinosaurs and Linda. Like, none of the regular characters shows up. Can you imagine what the 50th level. Like an episode of this, a TV show, and none of the characters you, like, like, show up st for hobby for five pages. I don't know. That's just my rant on this whole idea of Todd McFarlane's. Like, they don't. They feel so disconnected from what was going on in the comics. It's very jarring. [00:15:37] Speaker C: Yeah. There's nothing in these issues that is, like, continuity based. Like, from the other. The previous 49 issues from either any of them. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:15:45] Speaker B: No, and he. [00:15:46] Speaker A: He keeps referencing the things like he did. He's like. Like, Terry's so mad about Spawn killing wand of, like, they've gotten over this and hung out. Anytime he, like, helps him, like, gets pizza for him. And, like, in the Scorched. Like, I'm just like, he. He reverts back to the things he remembers or that he created and just kind of like the other stuff. But it's like, kind of. It doesn't. It's not offensive, but it's just like, I would rather this have been a celebration of what, the 50. And he wrote all of them. Yeah, he did. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:14] Speaker A: And, like, so it's like the fact that none of the other. Like, why it doesn't show up. Like, Taylor was just made a superhero off screen. [00:16:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, he just shows up. They're. Oh, hey, there you are. I'm like, what? [00:16:25] Speaker B: Like, then we got the hunter. Wait, the. The hunter? [00:16:29] Speaker C: The. [00:16:30] Speaker B: The who? The. The. The elephant guy. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Oh, that's the. That's. He's an old toy. [00:16:36] Speaker B: The Poacher. [00:16:37] Speaker C: The Poacher is from Dark Ages and he's like. [00:16:40] Speaker B: He's like. It's a long. It's a long story. We'll tell you later, right? [00:16:42] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Like he helped him. [00:16:44] Speaker A: He was like this prison or something. [00:16:46] Speaker B: So is it like a. Is it like a Chewbacca, Han Solo life debt thing where the poacher will [00:16:51] Speaker A: always be with Taylor Couldn't exist. [00:16:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I have not read Dark Ages. I know of Poacher, but I have not read that. That old. Yeah, you know, the old series. [00:17:01] Speaker A: So I haven't either. I've read. I've read some of them. I got into some of the spin offs and I was like, there's a [00:17:07] Speaker B: lot of spin offs. Yeah, like, there's a lot of spin [00:17:10] Speaker C: offs as far as the older ones. I mean, I've read the. I've read the Violator one that you guys are trying to give away. I have read that one. [00:17:16] Speaker B: That one is just nuts. [00:17:18] Speaker C: That one is crazy. Like, just crazy nuts. I. I mean, I've read that one, but I've read Spawn United, that one. That'll never get finished. [00:17:28] Speaker B: There's a couple of those, I feel. [00:17:29] Speaker C: Yeah, well, no, like, the Spawn United, they. It won't be finished because it was a book that was being written. It was a. Like an anthology or. I can't. If it was supposed to be like three parts or how many parts. But it was written by all of the original founders of Image Comics, so they're not like, you know, all together anymore. So like they had, you know, all the different characters from the different books in there. So it's something that they can't. They just can't finish. So, yeah, it's. [00:17:54] Speaker B: They said. [00:17:54] Speaker C: I think Todd even said one time, it'll never be finished. Like, they just can't. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I would. I. I feel like this. I feel like there's some. Some long held grudges between a few. [00:18:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there is. That's probably why, you know, it can't be finished. You know, Todd's not going to come out and say, oh, you know, we had a falling out and you know, he's mad at me and you know, he's gonna say we can't finish it. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:14] Speaker A: I remember During Lost Season 2, Damon Lindelof, the creator of Loss, had a Hulk Wolverine miniseries that he never finished. [00:18:23] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:18:24] Speaker A: He like, he like, was like, I got too busy. Sorry. Three issues. It's supposed to be like six and just like. [00:18:29] Speaker C: Okay. [00:18:30] Speaker A: I don't know if he ever went back to it. I don't know. I remember he like, just like, was like, sorry, sorry. [00:18:35] Speaker B: Could you imagine if he did like the original Quantum and Woody? Thing is, when he comes back to it, he pretends that all of that time between the previous issue and the current, the new issue, like actually existed in continuity. [00:18:48] Speaker A: This is like 30 years later. You might do that. [00:18:52] Speaker C: I've never even. You. I say I've never even watched Lost because people said it's one on the rails. [00:18:57] Speaker A: I'm still, I love it the whole time. [00:19:00] Speaker B: I've still only seen 12 episodes. [00:19:03] Speaker A: I love it the whole time. If you really watch it and be a comic book guy, I think you'd like it. It doesn't go off the rails. It stays true to it. Okay. [00:19:10] Speaker C: I'd say I just. Yeah. I just never really, you know, got into it. [00:19:13] Speaker A: That's fun. I mean, it's. I don't like. Is it worth watching now? Oh yeah. It's a fun, pulpy show. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm enjoying it so far. [00:19:19] Speaker A: Nice to have a 42 minute show that's available in streaming. There's no commercials or whatever. [00:19:23] Speaker B: There's a ton of it. So that way you, you know, you don't have to think of something new to watch in a couple of weeks. Yeah, like it'll be there for you. [00:19:31] Speaker A: It was very comic booky, that's for sure. Very influenced by like Stephen King comic books. And we have a comic book in front of us. I feel like I'm dreading getting to it. I don't even want to talk about it. [00:19:42] Speaker B: Do we have that might potentially be inspired by some Stephen King nonsense. Johnny, is it? I don't know. I don't know. You don't remember a demon? Gunslinger is kinda kind of Stephen King. [00:19:55] Speaker A: Oh, well. But he's barely in this issue. See, this is the dichotomy I want to talk about. This is what I've been mentioning is like. And I don't know if I can get over it. Like I. Yeah, I would love to be celebrating 50 episodes. Like, yeah, like Dakota comes back on a raptor at the end. Like something crazy. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Like, you know, and now it's just like building mystery to like reveal something and that'll like change the, like these events. I don't know. It's just frustrating as a gunslinger fan to be like. I wish it was more of a retrospective. [00:20:29] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, honestly, he's not in here much But. And I thought about it when I read it the first time, but there's, like a giant problem that I have with this story, like, once we get into it. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Oh, this? Yeah. Okay. [00:20:42] Speaker B: Only one. [00:20:43] Speaker C: There's a major, major, like, kind of continuity thing that I. I have a problem with. [00:20:48] Speaker A: Like, there's a couple, but there's like a big one. [00:20:52] Speaker C: Like, as far as me and Gunslinger, there's a major problem. And I can't believe I didn't really click when I first read it. Like. Like, you gotta be kidding me. [00:21:00] Speaker A: All right, so we have the credits. Davis is only one. Do you want to alternate? [00:21:07] Speaker B: Sure. [00:21:07] Speaker C: A credit. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Okay, sure. Script plot by Todd McFarlane. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Art by Carlo Barbary and Steven Segovia. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Color by Ivan Nunes. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Lettering by the Tom Father himself, Tom Wozykowski. [00:21:20] Speaker A: We already covered the A through h covers. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Todd McFarlane is the creative director. [00:21:27] Speaker A: Editor in chief is Thomas Healy. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:21:31] Speaker A: And then it has a little special insert. [00:21:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:34] Speaker A: It says chapters one and four, king spawn number 50. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Because I think this is the one I read first. And I was like, what the. What the is that? That was like, do I have to read King Spawn first? [00:21:45] Speaker A: Previously in king spawn 50. [00:21:47] Speaker C: That's. [00:21:48] Speaker A: This is hilarious. It says, previously in gunslinger. Previously in Kingspawn50. So I gotta do it for the. Okay. I gotta do it for the sound effect. Everything, though. Previously in Gunslinger. Previously in king spawn number 50. The mysterious plague Spawn is on the hunt. [00:22:07] Speaker B: I feel like when I do the. When we do the little tag, we should. Yeah, we should start it and then start another one underneath it. [00:22:16] Speaker A: So at the same time, I'm editing this. [00:22:20] Speaker B: That's gonna be. That's gonna be Bowery Alex. Bowery Alley acoustics. Hell yeah. Bowery Aller. [00:22:29] Speaker C: I think I mentioned this last time, but I listen to your guys show so much and so often that I. Once you guys are doing, like, you know, the different parts, I'm expecting the. I'm hearing the music in my head. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's good. That really. That means a lot. [00:22:44] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, it does. It sticks, you know, like it. I expect it. You know, I'm waiting for it. [00:22:48] Speaker B: If you. If you start. If you start saying the same nonsense that we say in, like, your everyday life, you might want to. You might want to take a break. [00:22:55] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:22:55] Speaker B: Too much Johnny and David. I don't even think Johnny and David want that much. Johnny and David. [00:23:01] Speaker C: Right? [00:23:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:02] Speaker C: This is just Johnny and David on camera. This is not Johnny and David in real life. These are just actors. Oh, no, they're playing a part. [00:23:10] Speaker A: Yes. No, it's pretty. Pretty real pretty wrong. [00:23:13] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm just me. [00:23:14] Speaker A: I mean, David works with cannibals, as we know. [00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, an aspiring cannibal, a. Wanted to potentially be a little bit of a cannibal. [00:23:24] Speaker C: Wants to be. [00:23:24] Speaker A: Some guy worked with in a lab, like, asked people if they wanted to eat a human lung with him. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:29] Speaker A: And everyone was like, no, nobody wants, like, an extra one they were going to throw away. [00:23:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it was. It wasn't. It didn't meet the criteria for transplant [00:23:38] Speaker A: and so eat it and fry it up. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Working. Working in research, people try to, you know, what's the word I'm looking for? Try to isolate, like, certain cell types from. From unusable tissues, but nobody. Nobody was prepped to do anything with it, so it was just going to be trashed. [00:24:01] Speaker C: So your first instinct was to eat it. [00:24:04] Speaker B: That was. That was. That was a guy I worked with. He was like, I would like to eat some of this law. [00:24:08] Speaker C: Right. [00:24:08] Speaker B: And what are we. What are we going to have another choice to do? Chance to do this? [00:24:12] Speaker C: Basically was. He sent for a psych ev. That's what I thought proposed. [00:24:18] Speaker B: He. He didn't. He worked in the lab next to mine, so I got to just be like, yeah, whatever. [00:24:23] Speaker C: He just reached over and locked the door. I'm like, okay. [00:24:26] Speaker A: But, like, the thing is, is you don't even hear of people eating pig lungs. And like, we eat every other part of the pig, but, like, it probably doesn't taste very good. [00:24:34] Speaker B: I have. I imagine it would be really neat chewing. Like, you would just chew it and chew it and chew it and chew it. [00:24:43] Speaker A: I don't want to talk about eating lungs anymore, but there's a lot of cannibalism in spawn. Like, people eat people and he gets eaten. [00:24:51] Speaker B: Javi does. [00:24:51] Speaker A: His face gets eaten off his face. [00:24:54] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. [00:24:55] Speaker A: We open on chapter two, which is a continuation of chapter one from Kingsma Fisher, where Terry was under the bridge. [00:25:02] Speaker B: Yeah, the. The secret meeting at midnight under the [00:25:04] Speaker A: Brooklyn and, like, the only empty lot that still exists over there. The coppers will never be here. [00:25:11] Speaker C: Yeah, no, we should. [00:25:13] Speaker B: We should. We should tell. Tell Erica Schultz that we'd like to meet her at a secret rendezvous underneath the Manhattan Bridge or something like that and have her just be like, you want to do what now? [00:25:24] Speaker C: Right. [00:25:25] Speaker A: He tries. So he's. He's calling all his encrypted number friends and no one's picking up. [00:25:30] Speaker C: But, I mean, do we really need to know. It's an encrypted number. [00:25:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:34] Speaker A: It's funny. What's those hot details? [00:25:37] Speaker C: I know. It's like some of that over, like, over explaining like it's an encrypted number. Like, you know, he just didn't, you know, call their number. It's an encrypted number. [00:25:44] Speaker A: And he's like, well, I guess I gotta call Jessica. Which I didn't know they hated each other. What's up with that? [00:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I have no idea. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Like, they weren't. Like. They worked together in scorched and stuff. [00:25:53] Speaker B: Like, was it. Was it when. Was it when Al kissed her that Terry was like, oh, no, no, can't be. Can't be in on this again. [00:26:01] Speaker C: I really didn't get the impression they hate each other. She was just kind of blowing him off. She's like, I'm working the case. Like, I don't have time for this right now. [00:26:06] Speaker A: And it's weird. It's a weird. It's a weird plot device. I'm gonna call her. I was just boring. Like, they're calling each other on cell phones, being like, I don't want to. Terry's whining at me. Yeah. Like, it's just weird because basically she's like, yo, I'm doing something else. He's like, well, no one came to our meeting. Like, they're all gone. She's like, well, you know, who planned it? She's. He's like, what's his name? [00:26:32] Speaker C: So who set it up? Downing. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Yeah, Downing. She's like, he's a flake, basically. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And she's like, why was Mark there? And he was like, but he wasn't. But they're missing. Did you hear me? [00:26:45] Speaker A: They go back and forth about this for 10 minutes. He said on the street. [00:26:50] Speaker B: She. She literally. [00:26:51] Speaker A: She literally. [00:26:53] Speaker B: She answers the phone saying, I'm busy. Make it quick. And they. [00:26:56] Speaker C: Yeah, she got 10 minutes to burn. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Like, it's so like. And he's like, oh, how long were they talking? Like, you just imagine writing this. And like his. His over explainer brain where he's like. It's almost like he's protecting himself from someone online. We'll be like, why? Why didn't they just call each other? Or like, it's like he's like, protecting himself from, like, criticism of, like, plot holes while then making other plot holes. [00:27:21] Speaker C: Right. [00:27:21] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:27:22] Speaker B: It's very interesting. Terry says, like, the smarmiest thing as he hangs up, that you'd be curious. My bad. [00:27:34] Speaker A: I Know, it's so weird. [00:27:35] Speaker B: So sad. [00:27:36] Speaker A: He's. [00:27:36] Speaker B: He's like. He's like a little emo kid. [00:27:38] Speaker C: Yeah, right. It's like he's all butthurt. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Like, here's the first thing. It's just like. Yeah, it's classic Spawn, but if you read the Spawns, this makes no sense. [00:27:46] Speaker B: No. [00:27:47] Speaker A: It goes to Spawn Alley to find Spawn. [00:27:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:51] Speaker A: So there. You didn't go there. [00:27:52] Speaker B: He doesn't go there. Yeah. [00:27:53] Speaker A: He's got, like, five safe houses across the world. [00:27:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:56] Speaker B: Like, also. Also the. Like, in modern day New York City. If. If. Would a chair like this survive in an alley in modern day New York City? It would get. [00:28:07] Speaker A: Someone would take it. Banksy's new piece, it would get. [00:28:11] Speaker B: It would get gentrified so fast, it would become like a. They'd, like, set up a coffee. They'd set up like a coffee shop around it so that way you could come get your coffee and drink it in the demon chair. It heightens. Heightens the cash also. [00:28:23] Speaker A: And he's. He's leaning into the retcon, thinks we'll forget. But he says he meets. It's in a place called Rat City. It was called Rat Alley. [00:28:31] Speaker B: It was our call. Rat Alley. Yeah. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Just to be clear. [00:28:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:34] Speaker C: But they've, like. They totally, like, you know, have just abandoned that whole storyline. Like, And. And I've. I. I mean, I haven't said it a long time, but I miss Bobby. Like, where the hell did Bobby go? They just, like. You don't hear which one? [00:28:47] Speaker B: Bobby? Which. Which one? The b. The. The original Bobby or the Bobby of Bobby and Bootsy? Because the. The Bobby of Bobby and Bootsy. I'm pretty sure he Dr. After Bootsy died. [00:28:56] Speaker C: No, no. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Died. [00:28:57] Speaker A: He didn't wander off. [00:28:59] Speaker B: Oh, he wandered off. [00:29:00] Speaker C: No, it was like in. It was like, I think, like in issue 84. [00:29:05] Speaker B: Okay. We got that far. [00:29:06] Speaker C: Like, Bootsy. Yeah. I'm long. That long ago. But Bootsy, you know, ends up getting, you know, taken back to hell because he broke the coat. Or to heaven because he broke the code or whatever. And he tells Bobby by. And so Bobby's all by himself and he has this little. I think it's a crystal, like, angel or horse or something that his daughter gave him and said, you know, if you ever, you know, are able to come home, whatever. And that's all he has left of his old life. And somebody breaks it. I remember some. I don't remember all the details. When somebody breaks the little figurine or glass statue that he Has. Then he just walks off into the sunset, like. And he's gone. Like, where the. Where the hell is Bobby? Like, we don't. He's gone. He's not dead. He just walked off. I know. Like, I miss. [00:29:49] Speaker A: Like, you just made me. You know, it's funny. You made me really nostalgic for one time when I had Covid and I read, like, the first two Spawn compendiums. [00:29:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Over the course, like, three days, once I got the. Like, the bigger books, I sat down and, like, started reading them. And then, you know, up until I got to the Jim Downing section, but that's a whole other story. But, yeah, I've got there. Oh, yo, it's. Have fun. I mean, I. I didn't care for it. I know some people do. But the whole Jim Downing arc is just, like, a total slog to get through. Like, it is bad. It's like the whole, like, whatever the Star wars movies were, where all they're doing is, like, just about the Senate. Like, it's just hard to get through. [00:30:31] Speaker A: I'm wearing a Phantom Menace shirt currently. Yeah. [00:30:33] Speaker C: Okay. [00:30:34] Speaker B: That's the movie. [00:30:35] Speaker C: It was, like. It's just all about the Senate meetings and stuff. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Like. But I think. I think that that's more of episode two than episode one. [00:30:41] Speaker A: That's episode two. [00:30:43] Speaker C: There's a lot more. [00:30:45] Speaker B: There's a act. There's a lot more in the Senate in episode two, but. [00:30:49] Speaker A: That's. [00:30:49] Speaker C: Right. [00:30:49] Speaker A: And a lot more really stilted dialogue. [00:30:52] Speaker C: Yeah, but. Yeah, but I mean, like, as far as Bobby goes, like, he's got a little bit of that necroplasmic energy in him, because, remember, Spawn saved him, so it's like, he. He was a pivotal character back then. Like, he's just gone. [00:31:06] Speaker A: Like, they also, like, I thought. And the other thing on this whole, like. Like, when you read it in order, you're like, oh, this plot's gonna be about all these Spawn generals. And, like, he's have to leave. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:18] Speaker A: It's never really mentioned again. [00:31:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it just. [00:31:20] Speaker B: It just goes away. [00:31:21] Speaker C: It's just gone. Like, they. They make these characters, and then you just never hear about them, you know, anymore. Or they have these plot, you know, lines, and then they just abandoned them. And they. [00:31:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but they look cool at the moment. [00:31:31] Speaker C: But then, you know, we're wondering. [00:31:33] Speaker A: They kind of. They toned down because, like, I don't know, right about when these issues launched, they're really making a lot more action figures a lot more regularly, I feel like. I mean, they're still coming out but they're a little more selective. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Were you talking about, like, when this. [00:31:46] Speaker A: I mean, Spawn? Like. Oh, okay, specific. Maybe I'm just not as tuned in as I once was. [00:31:51] Speaker B: I. I wonder. [00:31:52] Speaker C: I wonder if they were making. You're right, they were releasing the waves more often. But then, you know, they were doing the waves and then they came out with the 30th anniversary stuff, you know, with the. The Spawn and. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Yes, that was really cool. [00:32:06] Speaker C: And all that line. And then the next thing that we got was the. All the Call of Duty ones. Yeah. And then the most recent ones, which actually I ordered through the McFarland toy store. They just shipped yesterday. I should have them Friday. The three, you know, that are coming out. And then what's coming out? That's the. They redid. Which. It's still not as good as the original Nightmare Spawn figure that we got, 31. But it's better than the anorexic looking thing that we got. [00:32:36] Speaker B: That is. Is that the. Is that the one that. With the wings? Or is there a different one with the wings? [00:32:41] Speaker C: No, no, this nightmare spawned. The original one we got was like all black and looks emaciated. The one that just came out is a little more true to the original one from 31. So we're getting that they have a new articulated Wings of Redemption figure which looks badass. [00:32:58] Speaker B: That's. That's the one I want. [00:33:00] Speaker C: Awesome. And then also in that wave, there is a new Curse of Spawn that has come out that looks pretty good for, you know, today's articulation. It looks really good. So those are the three that we're getting. And then the only other thing that I know of that's going to be coming is McFarlane Choice got the Q fig line. So they're doing the. I know there's a Spawn and a violator in there. Oh, and then, I don't know. [00:33:24] Speaker A: Qf. [00:33:25] Speaker C: Yeah, those are coming for the Q figs. And then we got those constructive fig, which I heard aren't doing very well. Like, people are like, they're either not selling well or people. People are complaining. Like, I saw one post where a guy said that he bought like a whole case hoping to get complete the set, and he got a bunch of doubles and was still missing one to complete the set. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Oh, McFarlane got these. This the Q figure? [00:33:50] Speaker C: Yeah, he got the Q fig line. They announced that at the toy fair, I think whenever that was backer. [00:33:57] Speaker B: So. So this, you know, you mentioning that and just me Googling qfigs really quick because I Didn't know what they are. These look like they could play very, very easily into that Steven Segovia art and main title spot. [00:34:11] Speaker C: Yeah, they're very kind of chibi looking, but not. It's more of a cutting, like an anime feel. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's cute, but it's not chibiso. [00:34:24] Speaker C: Yeah, they do look good. Like, I do think. [00:34:26] Speaker A: How much are they? [00:34:28] Speaker C: I. I don't know what the MSRP is on them, but I did look at a Q fig that was at my LCS and it was like 19. But that was an older one, so I don't know if that was, you know, one of the older ones before McFarlane. I mean, obviously before McFarlane got the line, but I don't know if that's what they retail for. I think they're probably going to be like, it's a 2024. [00:34:49] Speaker A: Maybe. [00:34:50] Speaker B: The Disney and Marvel ones that are currently for sale on Amazon are about 16 to 20 bucks. [00:34:55] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. [00:34:55] Speaker A: Well, the Harry Potter one is $84. 80 on Amazon. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Jesus. [00:35:02] Speaker C: Yeah, no, thanks. But yeah, I don't know when the Q things are supposed to launch. I think maybe, like early summer maybe. But yeah, the. The three that I just mentioned, they should. They should be hitting stores right. Right now. [00:35:13] Speaker A: So Terry's just on the street. So we were talking about. [00:35:18] Speaker B: We were talking about a comic book. [00:35:19] Speaker A: Let's go back into it. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's Terry seeing the. Terry seeing the. The throne that the Unhomed Men originally built for Spawn. [00:35:29] Speaker A: That's a good figure. [00:35:30] Speaker C: That. [00:35:30] Speaker A: That swan that came out on the throne. The deluxe Spawn. [00:35:32] Speaker C: Yep. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I like those weapon packs, too. Got a couple of those. [00:35:37] Speaker C: Of the what? [00:35:38] Speaker A: The weapon packs. Those are. [00:35:39] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I have not bought any of those. Are they worth getting? [00:35:41] Speaker A: I think so. Because you can switch up the weapons, though, and they fit most characters. [00:35:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I've seen them. I just haven't picked them up. You know, as you were saying that, you know, about the throne, you know, is it just going to be sitting there this whole time? Didn't, wasn't, didn't. At one point in one. I think at one point in the story, Spawn was able to, like, cloak it so you couldn't see it. [00:36:00] Speaker A: I think so. [00:36:01] Speaker C: So maybe that's what, you know, why it's still there. And. [00:36:03] Speaker A: And Terry, it's also canonically, I think a dead zone's, like, right by there, too. [00:36:08] Speaker B: Yeah, the alley. The alley itself was a dead zone. [00:36:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Or has a dead zone in it. [00:36:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:15] Speaker C: Which. Yeah, that are all the Dead. I forget, are all the dead zones open now or just. [00:36:21] Speaker A: They're closed, I thought. [00:36:23] Speaker B: They're closed again. [00:36:24] Speaker C: No, they opened. One of them got open because that's. Everybody got their powers back in 3:50. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:32] Speaker C: That's when everybody got the. Some somehow. [00:36:35] Speaker B: But wait, wait, didn't. Didn't they get it? Didn't they get exploded? So, like, everybody got their powers back, but there's only like one or two hidden dead zones for actual, like, trans. [00:36:46] Speaker C: Somehow one got opened and. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Because there was that. Yeah, it was the one that was like a tunnel from Heaven. That's where they. They were. They were moving their. Their army and they did like, that. [00:36:56] Speaker C: Opened up the top somehow. [00:36:58] Speaker B: They did that like espionage. Espionage in heaven mission. [00:37:03] Speaker A: That was cool. [00:37:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that was pretty cool. Because that was. That was Jim Downing, wasn't it? [00:37:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it was Jim Downing with Spawn. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Yes. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Right. I think they snuck into heaven and [00:37:15] Speaker B: then they had to escape. They had to escape through the. The dead zone into Hell because the. That was the only way out. [00:37:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:21] Speaker A: And Spawn, like, fought a creature. Like, dragged him. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we got that one story of the guy who, like, spent all of eternity learning to be a good soldier for heaven. And he dies in the. In the Dead Zone. By the. By the monster. That was a good ass. That was fun. That was fun. Oh, yeah. Because there were the soldiers that got like, stuck in the dead zones. Right, Right. [00:37:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Spawn, he ain't on the throne. And this is where you get the weird detail that he's like, he's the man who killed my wife, technically. And I like, this is where you get the whole narrative, this issue where Terry wants nothing to do with Spawn, which we haven't. He, like, helps out in the Scorch and like, other stuff, like, a lot. And maybe I'm misremembering, maybe this was before he was shot. But I feel like he's been in other stuff, like King Spawn and like, helping out the control room. Like, he babysitted that kid. And like king spawn, like, 46. Whenever the little kid with the serial killer, like. [00:38:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:38:17] Speaker A: He was there helping out that kid. Right. [00:38:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Terry often. I feel like for. For most of the. The time, Terry has been, like, helping Al against his. They've been like, I guess I'll help if I gotta. [00:38:34] Speaker A: It just seems to like, they hate each other. Everyone hates everyone. So mean to each other in this issue. [00:38:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially one Mr. Javier. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Oh, he finally appears in his 50th issue. [00:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And he says he's not here. Says they might be out hunting. Might be out hunting some plague spawn. And Terry's like, wait, you're saying attacking other people? And Javi says, not just hellspawns. That seems like, that seems like a pretty important detail. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Just like, nah, telling us stuff we already know because we've read the issues, hopefully. But it's good for bringing people on board. [00:39:05] Speaker B: For issue 50, you know. Javi recounts the. His own hunting of the health of the plague spawn and his encounter with it, and how his necroplasm bullets didn't do anything to it. Pumped it full of lead. And it's like, it was like shooting a ghost. [00:39:26] Speaker A: He's like, but you're here now. His buddy's body ain't right. He just gotta explain everything. So his body's not right for him. He needs a different type of body. It's also health spawns, but not hobbies. [00:39:41] Speaker B: It's hilarious having Javi explain stuff because Javi is usually just like, I don't know what the going on. I'm just gonna shoot something and see if somebody can help. Javi is the last person who should be explaining anything. [00:39:55] Speaker A: And then to tell him not to go into danger, Javi holds a gun against his head. It's like, if you go after that hellspawn, you're gonna die. And it's like, why are you pointing your gun at him, Javi? [00:40:07] Speaker B: It's because it would be the same as if he pulled this trigger right here, Johnny. So, so he should just ask him to die now so he doesn't die painfully later. He's trying to make a point, Johnny. A salient point. [00:40:21] Speaker A: And so when plague spawn bested having the fight, he took him on a slab. [00:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker A: And then just started eating him. [00:40:28] Speaker B: He, he, he Nick Cage and John Travolta, didn't he? [00:40:33] Speaker A: Well, at the very end, first he starts biting at his ass. [00:40:36] Speaker C: Yeah, this, this is my major problem with this, with this like, story arc or what they're doing right here. Because, okay, so, you know, the, the plague spawn, he's like, oh, the plague spawn, you know, was just ripping me to shreds and tearing me apart. This is not, he's not a hell spawn. He doesn't heal like Al. He doesn't heal like everybody else. He's in. [00:40:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he's also, he also has a low ass necroplasm. He's been up like the last 20 issues. [00:41:06] Speaker C: He does not. There's no way, okay, in the, in the normal storyline, there is no way he would Heal up from this. Especially as fast as, you know, for him to be standing in the alley right now with Terry. [00:41:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:19] Speaker A: He usually has to, like, go to a hospital. [00:41:21] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, they would. They would literally have to put him back together because he's in a dead guy's body. [00:41:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:27] Speaker C: There's no way he would heal from this like that. So I don't understand what they were thinking. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Like, they just really, like. They just really, like, taking his face and tearing it off. Because that was the original introduction to him in this contemporary time, was that little story in Spawn's universe where he wakes up and finds his face. [00:41:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, but. But that was, you know, that was, you know, the gunslinger. That wasn't. [00:41:54] Speaker A: That was Tobias. [00:41:55] Speaker C: Yeah, that wasn't Javi. This is Tobias in a. You know, Javi is a dead man's body. So there's no. [00:42:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:04] Speaker C: Would have healed up from this. So unless you're saying that underneath that mask and everything, he's just all emaciated and his face is ripped off like. [00:42:10] Speaker B: Well, he. [00:42:11] Speaker C: He. [00:42:11] Speaker B: He does. He does hide some gruesome. Some gruesomeness beneath that mask sometimes. Yeah. [00:42:19] Speaker C: Yeah, but he does. I mean, he does have. This body is, like, scarred, you know, bad. Like, really, really bad. But there's. There's no way he would have healed up from that. He would not have came back to this. He would have had to have found another body. [00:42:32] Speaker A: That's weird, David. You thought it was a dream. [00:42:34] Speaker B: I did think it was a dream. [00:42:36] Speaker C: I mean, it's got. [00:42:38] Speaker B: It's got the weird borders that sometimes I'm not sure what the borders mean. [00:42:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I just also. [00:42:43] Speaker A: That's like a perfect end of a nightmare. It rips your face off. [00:42:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:45] Speaker C: The red. The red borders must mean it's a flashback. Like, I guess talking about, you know, the. The part that could have never happened. I just. It doesn't make sense. I. I mean, I thought about it as I was reading it the first time, but then the more I thought about. I'm like, there's no way. This. This. [00:43:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:01] Speaker C: This could not happen, period. [00:43:02] Speaker B: Javi and Javi. Javi recounts having heard a voice calling plague spawn off. And Terry's like, do you know who it was? No. [00:43:13] Speaker C: Yeah, right? No. [00:43:13] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Gonna find out, though. [00:43:15] Speaker C: He didn't have his Hell Spawn color ID on. He didn't know. He couldn't tell. [00:43:21] Speaker A: It was encrypted. [00:43:22] Speaker C: Yeah, right. It was an encrypted voice. He couldn't tell. [00:43:25] Speaker A: Then he just gets an echo. He's like, what about my friends? They're missing. And then nothing. [00:43:29] Speaker B: An echo is the only answer he gets. [00:43:32] Speaker A: And then we get the opening quote, [00:43:35] Speaker B: and then we get a voice. [00:43:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:39] Speaker B: Mr. Oh, what the. Is his name Maimon Mammon. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Maman Mammon. [00:43:45] Speaker B: He's got a. He's got a. He's got a Waluigi mustache, and it's cracking me. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Look at Terry's curl. [00:43:56] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, right? [00:43:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Intense. [00:44:00] Speaker C: It messed up his hair. That's what happened. Yeah. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Or that's like his. His. His expression of. Of instead of having a cape or a. A duster, he's got the hair that. It's like Jessica Priest hair light. [00:44:16] Speaker A: This guy Maimon's Mammon Maumon is saying, yo, I know your friends are. I can take you to him. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah, we just gotta go this way. And he takes them to some ruins. [00:44:27] Speaker C: Yeah, [00:44:30] Speaker B: they get there pretty quick. [00:44:33] Speaker A: Takes them right to hell. Maybe they use that dead zone. [00:44:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. [00:44:37] Speaker A: Well, this is closed. [00:44:39] Speaker B: I mean, Maimon is as good as his word. Maimon. He does take them directly to. To Mark and Jim Downing and Monolith, if you want to consider Monolith a friend. But, [00:44:53] Speaker A: yo, why are you taking me here? I'm human. He's like plague spawn likes to. Or hell likes underestimate humans. I don't. And then, like, Plague, like, he won't detect him because he only detects spawns. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And they walk into this room where Mark and Jim Downing are chained up and, well, I guess Monolith is also chained and he's getting ripped into by plague spawn. And Maimon's like, you should hide yourself before he sees you. [00:45:20] Speaker C: Right. Let's take a weak human down there, you know, in front of this. This killer hellspawn. [00:45:28] Speaker B: And it's at this very moment that Terry makes a pact with himself. I remember just being taken out by this little bit of narration the first time and rereading it again now. It is cracking me up. If you consider this place alive. He's done with this kind of thing. He has three children to take care of. It's time he made them his only priority. [00:45:54] Speaker A: What a great. That's the end of that chat. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Like, I'm pretty sure Terry has been like, I have a family. That's my priority, like, 16 times, right? [00:46:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:06] Speaker B: Like, that's usually. Usually Spawn is like, I need your help. And he's like, I've got kids, dude. [00:46:12] Speaker A: So that's the end of the chapter. And we get the gunslinger bullet skull logo. [00:46:18] Speaker B: You know, what killed the Dinosaurs. The Ice Age. Okay, yeah. Kings. Not king. Spawn. Gunslinger. Spawn. Skull. It's still a badass skull. I like it. They should make some patches. [00:46:33] Speaker C: I do like that. They have done that for, like, each of the issues. Like, they have their own, like, little, you know, logo for each of the titles. [00:46:40] Speaker A: And that's the only appearance Gunslinger makes. It is. Yeah. [00:46:44] Speaker B: In his own book, he said he's a supporting character. In his own book, he's just there [00:46:51] Speaker C: chilling, like, hanging, like. But he's, you know, just hanging out in the alley, like, waiting for Terry to. Because he knew Terry was going to show up. So he's just hanging out by Spawn's throne. [00:47:00] Speaker A: He's like, and my face, really? [00:47:02] Speaker C: Yeah, right? [00:47:02] Speaker A: He's like, that's why. [00:47:05] Speaker C: That's why he wasn't in the issue very much, because he's shredded under that mask. He's like, dude, I gotta go lay down. Just shut up. [00:47:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I gotta lay down. [00:47:11] Speaker B: Maybe it was. [00:47:12] Speaker A: Get some ointment. [00:47:13] Speaker B: Maybe he was hoping to find some of that strawberry ripple that's. And left behind to. [00:47:17] Speaker C: To numb. Right. [00:47:18] Speaker B: To numb himself. [00:47:19] Speaker A: He's got, like, a Korean face mask on. [00:47:27] Speaker B: He's just trying to. He's just trying to rest and relax. Allow himself to heal naturally. [00:47:31] Speaker A: He's like, linda's on her phone on Amazon. He's like, order more. More face masks. I don't know. It's just disappointing that he's barely in it. And, like. Yeah, I understand what he's doing with the connected 50s, which is cute. But, like, get, like. Get, like. Like, I don't know, Stephen King to write it or some. Yeah. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Every big issue, it seems like a first idea that instead of thinking it through and being like, yeah, let's tweak it a little bit. They were like, we don't have time. We just have to go with the first idea. Let's kind of. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Well, it's just. It's exhausting with all these events, because I feel like we just had an event. [00:48:07] Speaker B: We did. [00:48:08] Speaker A: We did, like, right before this with the three. The whole, like, big creature in Ohio. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:13] Speaker A: And it's like, in Seattle, that many of Ohio, everybody knows, surrounded by the ocean. But it just feels like there's too many events. Let these stories, like, reach a natural climax because they're always just, like, waiting until Tom McFarlane comes in. He's like, well, I'm doing an event, so whatever you did. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker A: Or it doesn't matter. [00:48:40] Speaker B: I feel. I feel like there was. There was a nice time after 350 where there wasn't really a big event, and it feels like, like that was successful. [00:48:48] Speaker A: So he's just gonna keep. [00:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it feels like in the last year they've been like, well, we haven't had an event in a while. Let's do a couple of events. And it's. [00:48:54] Speaker C: But you know, honestly though, with that 350 event, I mean, you know, the whole thing with the fighting the giant monster and everybody, you know, coming together to fight it, I thought that was cool. But then once they. Once Todd decided, oh, well, now everybody knows they exist. I don't know, it changed the dynamics of the story. Like, it. Spawn works better. Like in the shadows, like when everybody knows that he's like, there. It's. [00:49:16] Speaker B: It. [00:49:17] Speaker C: It didn't feel the same. [00:49:18] Speaker B: So that's, that's the. What I like about the. The little like, vignette single issue monster of the week King Spawns that we have where it's like, people know of Spawn, but they talk about him kind of like he's Bigfoot. Like, there are people who are like, yeah, he doesn't fucking exist. [00:49:37] Speaker C: What the hell, right? [00:49:38] Speaker B: That's, that's. That's cool as hell. Because then when he shows up, people are like, oh, fuck, he does exist. You know, like, like Santa Claus and the M and Ms. And that classic Christmas commercial they do. [00:49:48] Speaker C: He does exist. [00:49:49] Speaker B: He does exist. [00:49:50] Speaker A: They do. [00:49:53] Speaker C: That last arc, that. What McConville did on King Spawn, that was badass. You know, before Rosenberg took over. Like the whole, you know, going into the house and shutting down the. The. What was it? The, the gateway or whatever. You know, the guy that was, you know, trapped in the house because, you know, of his family. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. That was the, like the house of lost souls or whatever it is that that was. [00:50:16] Speaker C: So. But they only. We only had one issue like that and then Rosenberg took over. So, you know, we lost that. But I, I love that. I was, you know, I would have liked to have seen that continue on. But, you know, we'll see where Rose. [00:50:26] Speaker B: That. That one issue that took place in that dude's brain as he was dying was awesome. [00:50:33] Speaker A: They're a little Twilight Zone episodes. Yeah, they're very fun. [00:50:36] Speaker B: There's something on the way. [00:50:38] Speaker C: It's like sometimes they have like these one off ideas that are just badass and it's like, you know, then you just don't see it again. Then it goes. It goes back to, you know, now. Now we got stories happening at 12:36 and 11:34. And at 9:45, I wouldn't be 10 minutes. [00:50:53] Speaker B: I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the future we went back to see what that full 10 minute conversation on the phone between Terry. [00:51:00] Speaker C: They're gonna milk. [00:51:01] Speaker A: He's like, for 10 minutes? He's like, well, where are my friends? She's like, I don't know. I don't care. Yeah, well, don't hang up, okay? Well, I don't care. [00:51:08] Speaker C: He's like, but could they be at the store? I don't know. Could they be at the movies? I don't know. That's what they were doing. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Yeah, well, what movie. [00:51:14] Speaker B: What movie would Mark and Jim Downing both agree on? What movie would Mark and Jim Downing both agree on? [00:51:21] Speaker A: Fast and Furious. Mark likes it for the irony and the continuity, and Jim likes it for the cars and the babes. [00:51:28] Speaker B: Definitely. Definitely. A later. A later. Fast and the Furious. [00:51:33] Speaker C: I think I quit watching those. [00:51:35] Speaker B: But that. Mark, if you like to just eat some popcorn and shut your brain off [00:51:42] Speaker C: for two hours, you have to like, [00:51:44] Speaker A: what was two and a half hours? I. [00:51:46] Speaker C: Okay, the last. Man, the last one that I actually tried to watch was. And I was kind of still. I was kind of on the outs with those movies anyway. But the one movie where they're in the two cars and they're dragging this giant safe down the street, I'm like, what are. What is it? They ripped us out of a building and we're dragging it down the road. I'm like, okay, I'm done. [00:52:06] Speaker B: There is one where they literally put Roman in a car with a rocket on it and shoot him into space. [00:52:15] Speaker C: Are you serious? [00:52:17] Speaker B: And the best part is Roman. Roman. You know, everybody knows Roman likes to eat candy in these movies. And so when he's in space and there's no gravity, there's like all these candy wrappers just floating around. [00:52:30] Speaker C: I heard that the Diesel's actually trying to get this made into a TV show now or something. Like, just let it. [00:52:34] Speaker A: He wants to make like Young Dom, the tv. [00:52:36] Speaker C: Yeah, just let it go. Like you've milked it to death. Like, over. [00:52:42] Speaker A: So they still make. They make the international money, I think. [00:52:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess. I. You know. Although there's not much good to come. [00:52:50] Speaker A: Well, it's not a new issue, so we don't have to take a break. It's just a chapter. [00:52:54] Speaker C: Yeah, just the end of the chapter [00:52:56] Speaker A: and we're on the chapter two. Chapter two. This is chapter five. [00:53:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Wait, that was chapter three or two? [00:53:04] Speaker B: That was. There was two. [00:53:05] Speaker A: That was two. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Chapter two, I think to read all [00:53:08] Speaker C: three of these, you need to have, like, one of those, you know, boards that they have in the. In the. In the cop movies. Like, you know, with all the red string on it. Tie everything. [00:53:16] Speaker B: What are those called again, Johnny? Didn't you say that they had a name? [00:53:19] Speaker C: I do. I can't order this. [00:53:20] Speaker A: I don't remember. [00:53:21] Speaker B: Oh, it's like somebody. Somebody told me that they have, like, there's a name that they're actually called, and I don't remember what it is. [00:53:28] Speaker C: There is. And I can't remember for the life of me what they're called. I just. It popped into. [00:53:31] Speaker B: If everybody just describes them as the. The board with the pictures of the red strings, and everybody knows what you're talking about. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Charlie Dayboard. [00:53:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:40] Speaker B: Maybe that's what you call. Yeah, that. [00:53:42] Speaker C: That was an awesome episode where he's trying to figure out the whole mail thing. That was freaking awesome. [00:53:47] Speaker A: Yeah. The second part's kind of a little. It's a little quicker. [00:53:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. We start in media Fight. [00:53:53] Speaker A: So the end of chapter three, Spawn was hunting down Plague. [00:53:58] Speaker C: Spawn. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker A: And it found him. [00:54:01] Speaker B: It imitated Jessica Priest. And he was like, you aren't Jessica Priest. You've got weird, weird green eyes. [00:54:08] Speaker A: You don't smell nice. [00:54:12] Speaker B: You say you don't give. Don't give, don't give, don't give. Todd McFarlane. [00:54:17] Speaker A: That weird love thing whenever they kiss. [00:54:19] Speaker B: So weird. [00:54:19] Speaker A: Don't look at my ass. [00:54:21] Speaker B: It's so weird. [00:54:24] Speaker C: I don't think. But Jessica and Al have never done anything. [00:54:28] Speaker A: No. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Which is. Which is part of why it's so weird. [00:54:31] Speaker C: It's the only. Okay. As far as. As far as I can remember, though Spawn. [00:54:37] Speaker B: She did kill him, though. [00:54:38] Speaker C: Yes. Spawn has been with Angela and Nyx. I think that's it. [00:54:43] Speaker A: But didn't they say in a recent ISH issue in the last year or so that like. Like Spawn doesn't know that she killed him? [00:54:52] Speaker B: I don't. I don't remember. [00:54:55] Speaker A: I feel like that was said. [00:54:58] Speaker C: I don't remember. But she. She says it to him. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:55:01] Speaker C: I think she says something like, I killed. I've already killed you once or something. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, probably. [00:55:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Killed you once, and I'll do it again. [00:55:09] Speaker C: Even. Even though it was Chapel, but because of the movie, they couldn't. [00:55:12] Speaker A: Well, it's funny. That's. The legacy of Jessica Priest only exists because of the movie. [00:55:16] Speaker C: Yeah. That is the 100. The reason, the only reason Jess Priest was created because they did not have the rights to use Chapel in the movie. So they're like. So they created Jessica Priest. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:27] Speaker C: And she ended up being the one to kill him. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Could you. Could you imagine. Can we. Could we imagine what Chapel would have looked like in that movie, though? Probably not very good. [00:55:36] Speaker A: I think the choice. I think it's a good idea to change it. Plus, I think after the Neil Gaiman debacle, he wanted to be control of all his main characters. [00:55:43] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:55:44] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I feel a lot of people. There's probably more reaction to that than anything else. [00:55:48] Speaker B: But, I mean, was. [00:55:48] Speaker A: Was. [00:55:49] Speaker B: Was that at the beginning of the. Of the lawsuit? Because that thing drug on for, like, a decade, like. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah, but, like. Yeah, he was probably like that. I want to be in control of my characters. Yeah, but this would be too complicated to, like, introduce the whole world of Chapel in a movie. The name Jessica Priest is a reference to Chapel. [00:56:09] Speaker B: Chapel. [00:56:10] Speaker C: But the. Oh, yeah, I. I guess I never made that connection. [00:56:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:15] Speaker C: That's crazy. [00:56:16] Speaker B: But. [00:56:17] Speaker C: And I know a lot of people, at least at one point, a lot of people were thinking that Spawn ends up ripping Chapel's face off. And he doesn't. He just. He fuses his mask with his face. He does. It's. That's not his skull, you see. That's his mask, like, embedded in his face. Like, he can't. He can. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Yeah, there's confusion. We covered that, David. [00:56:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we did about that. [00:56:39] Speaker A: And it's in the letters, I think, in the back. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I actually, I remember. [00:56:43] Speaker C: I remember talking about it. [00:56:44] Speaker A: We Googled it, or we were. Yeah, we talked about it very early. [00:56:47] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, well, he. No, he. [00:56:48] Speaker A: What did he do to him? [00:56:49] Speaker C: He fused. He. He puts his hand on his face and he fuses the mask to his face. He doesn't rip his face off, so it's just, like, permanently there. Like it. [00:56:58] Speaker A: I remember talking about that, David. Yeah, I don't know how we figured out that that was the thing, but we. We talked about that. [00:57:04] Speaker B: Me either, dude. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Probably episode 15 or 20. [00:57:06] Speaker C: I don't remember if I. If I just figured it out or if. If maybe Todd said in an interview, but somehow I think it was said somewhere. Yeah, it's. It's. It's his mask that's on his face. That's not his actual. [00:57:16] Speaker A: It might be in the letters. I think it might be in the spawning room. [00:57:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was. I think it was a spawning grounds thing because there was. There was a lot of. There was a lot of. There was a lot of settled in the. In the spawning grounds. I Like that Al Simmons fighting Plague Spawn here is like, I gave you your chance. [00:57:35] Speaker A: And then he just kills him. He says, you should have walked away. And then he feels even the slightest tense of remorse, and it pisses him off even more. [00:57:46] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Plague Spawn comes back and just, like, buries its hands and just to Alice chest. [00:57:52] Speaker A: He does, like, the. What is this? What movie? They just like, stick his hands into somebody. [00:57:56] Speaker C: Is that in a movie that's you're thinking of? Oh, it's the Indiana Jones movie. The Temple of Doom sticks his hand in the guy's chest. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Oh, God damn. Yeah. That was, like, the first. That was the first horror movie ever as a kid. [00:58:14] Speaker C: That was crazy. Like, you know, oh, my heart. I'm like, what that. You know. [00:58:19] Speaker A: And, like, the bugs. The bugs freak me out. [00:58:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:21] Speaker A: And monkey brain scenes like Faces of Death for kids. Oh, yeah, look at Eat Monkey brains and snakes. And did you, like. What'd you think of Temple Doom as a kid, David? [00:58:30] Speaker B: Me? I was. [00:58:31] Speaker A: I thought it was the scary one. [00:58:33] Speaker B: I wasn't allowed to. It was the one I wasn't allowed to watch for a really long time. And so it was. It was the one that I wanted to see a lot. Then when I finally got to see it, I was like, what? That's it. That's what everybody was talking about, but I still enjoyed it. You know, it was a Indiana Jones movie. [00:58:48] Speaker A: I saw it way too young. It's gory, man. That shit's up. [00:58:51] Speaker B: It is. It's up as hell. [00:58:53] Speaker A: He holds a beating heart while they burn the guy. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:56] Speaker A: And the heart catches on fire. [00:58:59] Speaker C: David. All right, David, then. Okay. You need a good. You need to get a good. Get a good palate cleanser. And when Johnny brought this up, I. I was like, like, yelling at my. At the podcast, like, when he's talking about Short Circuit 2. [00:59:11] Speaker A: We watched it. [00:59:12] Speaker B: I watched it. It's good. You did? Yes. [00:59:16] Speaker C: Oh, my God. I've seen that movie at least 30 times, and every time, the end makes me cry like a baby. I'm almost 50 years old, and that movie gets me every time. [00:59:25] Speaker B: It's good. It's actually. Actually we talk about it in the. The episode that hasn't come out yet. [00:59:32] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, we should talk about it more because I. That movie was on TV all the time when I was a kid. Like, I don't know what channel, but, like. And, like, I love it. And, like, I went back and I've watched Source look at one, but, like, I think it's. I like it. Better than Source. Circuit One, like, specifically that movie is just, like, so much fun to me. [00:59:49] Speaker C: I love Source, but I mean, it's like the whole, you know, whole thing, like, you know, where he just. You know, he gets beat to hell and, you know, he's. He's still going, and. [00:59:56] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. [00:59:58] Speaker C: Oh, my God, he's laying there dying, and. Oh, it gets me every single time. And he's a robot, but it's like you connect with him. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Like, you feel Michael McKeon rips his silk shirt to save his back. [01:00:08] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. He's like, no, no, Durf. Not your. Not your silk shirt. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's the movie that taught me about pig Latin a little bit, too. Because they do pig Latin? [01:00:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:00:19] Speaker C: But, like, there's actually a guy. He's over in the UK that actually makes, like, little, like, you know, the robots, like, 3D prints. If he puts, like. Oh, yeah, Tight. But they're like. He's like 600 bucks, something like that. But, like, they're. [01:00:38] Speaker B: It's way more expensive than Ben was selling them for. [01:00:40] Speaker C: They have, like. Oh, yeah, they have, like, animatronics in them and. Is it Titanic? What is this? [01:00:46] Speaker B: It was. What was selling them for cost. What was it, like, 25 bucks? Is that what it was? [01:00:51] Speaker C: Titanic Toys is who it is. Yeah. Like, digging in the tunnel with skirt. Like, breaking into the bank. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:58] Speaker C: I just. I just love those. I mean, I love both the movies, but I like the second one just a little bit more. [01:01:03] Speaker B: Well, there's a. This is. This is a. This is a conversation that Wanda and I have a lot. She does not understand the boy and his robot genre of film. And I cannot watch a boy and his robot movie without crying because they're obviously. They're obviously aimed at me like the Iron Giant. Oh, no. [01:01:25] Speaker C: Okay. Have you seen Flood of the Navigator? [01:01:27] Speaker B: I have not seen Flight of the Navigator. [01:01:30] Speaker C: That's a Disney movie. [01:01:31] Speaker B: It's. [01:01:31] Speaker C: It's good. [01:01:32] Speaker B: That's. [01:01:33] Speaker C: That is. That's a really good movie. What other. What, like, what other robot movies are there? [01:01:38] Speaker A: Like, Bicentennial man sounds like. [01:01:41] Speaker C: Okay, yeah, that. That movie was. I. I remember seeing it in theater. I thought that movie was way too long. [01:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, technically. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Technically, my robot's good. [01:01:54] Speaker B: Terminator 2 is technically a boy in his robot. [01:01:58] Speaker C: Right? I mean, you're not. You're not wrong. [01:02:00] Speaker A: That's true. [01:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:00] Speaker A: He gives the thumbs up. [01:02:01] Speaker C: You're not wrong. The brave little. That's not really a. [01:02:05] Speaker B: This is. There's another. [01:02:06] Speaker A: I Love the Brave Little Toaster. I know. David. [01:02:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Got it from the library all the time. [01:02:10] Speaker A: I know you did. Why was that considered a library movie? [01:02:14] Speaker B: It's just a movie they had at the library. I don't know who chose. I don't know who curated my library. [01:02:19] Speaker A: Now they got video games in the library. [01:02:21] Speaker B: Dang. [01:02:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:23] Speaker C: And I cannot remember the last time I was in our public library. [01:02:26] Speaker B: I mean, you should go there. [01:02:27] Speaker C: They're great. It's still there. I used to go all the time. I mean, I. I used to, but I. I don't know. I just don't. I mean, aside from comic books, there's not really much that I read anymore. Like, my favorite author is Dean Koontz and I'm so far behind on his stuff. [01:02:41] Speaker B: You're never gonna get caught up. [01:02:42] Speaker A: No, but if. [01:02:44] Speaker C: If I have one recommendation of, of all the Dean Koon's books that I've ever read, Whispers is the one you should check out. Whispers is awesome. When you find out what the Whispers are. Oh, my God, like, what the title means. Oh, the main character's name is Bruno Fry. I still remember that to this day. It's a great book. If you read anything by Dean Koontz, I recommend Whispers for Stephen King. [01:03:09] Speaker A: I would say Misery is my favorite of his, so I'd recommend Misery. Or if you want to read the nastiest one, Pet Cemetery. Yeah, I don't say the Shining, but I thought the movie is a little more disturbing. The book's little schmaltzy, little family oriented. It's not as creepy. I can't think it has a happy ending. But Pet Cemetery and Misery are like. If you want the nasty Stephen King RePet Cemetery feel a little more heightened, but still pretty nasty. Stephen King re Misery. [01:03:38] Speaker C: That. But that, but I mean, in the movie Pet Cemetery, that was one of the worst things I can remember seeing, like when I was like. Like a kid growing up was when Gage got hit by that semi. [01:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, it's fun. Just stops. [01:03:49] Speaker C: You're like, what? You know, like, wipes out this little [01:03:52] Speaker A: kid in the book in his funeral. The dad's like, grieving so much the. Or like he acts. Someone actually pulls the coffin down his body. Like, oh, Jesus goes down the aisle of the church. That book is nasty. And Stephen King says. He said interviews, like, yeah, I won't ever write anything that mean again. [01:04:10] Speaker C: But I don't know if I've actually read any of his books that have been, you know, adapted into like, I. I know I've Read some of Stephen King's stuff, but I can't think of, like, anything off the top of my head of his that. I've actually. [01:04:22] Speaker A: I read a lot of his cl. I was through the 90s, but, like, I kind of. I. I read what his. Originally. His last novel he said, which was Cell, and that was in, like, 2004. [01:04:37] Speaker C: That's the last time he wrote it. [01:04:38] Speaker A: Or that was his first one back. Or that was his last. He said it was his last one. Right. I can't remember. He said something. It was something like, this is my last. Oh, it was his first one back after he retired. [01:04:49] Speaker B: Oh, was it like. Oh, yeah. [01:04:50] Speaker A: And now he's written like this. He's made, like, an amazing detective character that people love. [01:04:58] Speaker B: There's a. He did, like, a fairy tale a few years ago that's actually really good. I forget what it's called. [01:05:05] Speaker A: I mean, he probably can't break himself of it. He was like, he. Every day he would write, like, you know, 20 pages or something. [01:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:11] Speaker C: I don't know. But when. When it comes to Stephen King, though, like, he's just so wordy. Like. Oh, like, so much like. I mean, kind of like Todd, like, over explaining stuff. Like, I mean, you know, he gives a lot of detail, but that's the one thing I like about Dean Coons. He just gets to the point. Like. But, like, you know, in. But in a Dean Coons book, everybody drives a Honda, everybody has a golden retriever, everybody wears flannel, everybody wears Rockport boots. It's like, all that stuff's the same. So, I mean, there's. [01:05:38] Speaker A: That's hilarious. [01:05:39] Speaker C: Like, I've noticed that, like, in his books, like, all that. All that stuff always comes up the same. [01:05:42] Speaker B: Like. [01:05:44] Speaker C: But still, I mean, I like this. I like his style. I like his. [01:05:47] Speaker A: Okay, I'll check out Dean Coons. [01:05:48] Speaker C: Yeah, he's. He's. He's like Steve. He's like Timu's version of Stephen King. I mean, not that he's bad, but I mean, it's. It's more of a. Simplified. [01:05:57] Speaker A: A little more pro. [01:05:58] Speaker C: A little more pulpy, a little more palatable. Like, easier to, you know, read. It's more. Not so much. You don't have so many, like, descriptors, [01:06:08] Speaker A: folksy diversions, let's call them. [01:06:10] Speaker C: Yeah, he's more direct. Like, gets to the point. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:13] Speaker A: Well, early Stephen King was a little like that. Because Uber's early books are, like, you know, an inch thick. [01:06:17] Speaker C: Maybe that's what it is. He's Just trying to pad out the book. So he. [01:06:19] Speaker A: But his. But his. His new ones are like 2 inches thick. Yeah, every single one of them. [01:06:25] Speaker B: They. They do they. Do they. Do they run, though? [01:06:30] Speaker A: No, he's easy to read. [01:06:31] Speaker C: Yeah, they. [01:06:32] Speaker B: They breeze right on by. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Well, what's not reason on by is this. [01:06:37] Speaker C: Well, I mean, because you're. You're. [01:06:39] Speaker A: It's okay. He's just fighting. [01:06:41] Speaker C: It's all over the place. [01:06:43] Speaker A: So he sticks his hands through him, and then he starts. He slashed his throat. And he gets Wolverine fucking claws. [01:06:49] Speaker B: Yeah, and then Spawn kicks him away. [01:06:54] Speaker A: All the while we're getting info that is like this Spawn. All the other Spawns don't compare to Spawn. He needs Spawn's blood or essence to do whatever he's gonna do. Yeah, no one else compares to Al Simmons. Of course. He's about to kill Spawn. He has him in his grasps, but he doesn't want him depleted, so it just leaves him alone. [01:07:20] Speaker B: And Planes, he's just like. He just like slinks into the shadows at the end. He just looks like. He looks like a Jack O Lantern at the end of the alley there. [01:07:32] Speaker A: And if he realizes. Spawn realizes they merge together, they will be the most powerful Spawn ever created. [01:07:38] Speaker C: I didn't notice that, David. Yeah, he's like. You see his little face on the end of the alley? [01:07:43] Speaker A: Oh, that's kinda cool. [01:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like a reverse of the throwing the jackpot Echo Lantern and Sleepy Hollow. [01:07:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:52] Speaker B: Oh, and then four days later, [01:07:56] Speaker A: it's like, yeah, I'll deal with that. Four days. [01:07:59] Speaker C: Not sometime later. Not, you know, a while later. [01:08:02] Speaker A: Jessica never heard from Terry again. Yeah, Spawn just chilled for four days, and they're like. I guess we should try to figure this out. Would they have, like, baseball tickets for four days? I mean, have you seen a modern baseball game? They're shorter. They're shorter? [01:08:18] Speaker B: Yeah, they're shorter. They're sure they got that pitch clock. [01:08:21] Speaker A: David. I was flipping channels the other night, and they had the Savannah Bananas on espn, too. [01:08:27] Speaker B: Oh, interesting. [01:08:28] Speaker A: But they didn't do anything cool. They're just playing baseball in, like, weird costumes. Like, I expected to do like a backflip at some point, like a dance. But like. Yeah, they're like a. Have you heard of them? They're like. They're like. They're like the Harlem Globetrotters. [01:08:44] Speaker C: But okay, okay. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Like, they sell out stadiums. They do, like, really big shows. And people love them, the kids. [01:08:50] Speaker B: It's. It's a new version of what they used to call Barnstorming baseball. That it's basically, you get to play baseball and be a clown at the same time. [01:08:59] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [01:09:00] Speaker B: But now it's just called Banana Ball because they've become a sensation. Oh, yeah. [01:09:04] Speaker A: Well, they're on TV. [01:09:05] Speaker B: Nice. [01:09:06] Speaker C: I. I just don't want. [01:09:07] Speaker A: Sure Tom McFarlane is aware. [01:09:09] Speaker C: Probably. [01:09:10] Speaker B: Probably. I have a. I have a friend who went to the show that was here last summer and they said it was, like, packed. [01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Never forget that Todd McFarlane's almost more famous to the general public for being the guy that bought all those baseballs. [01:09:25] Speaker B: Forgot that Spend a million dollars. [01:09:27] Speaker A: Who was. What I was talking about. Wait, is he the guy that bought all the baseballs? And I'm like, yes. [01:09:32] Speaker C: Which. And you guys. I'm sure you guys have already covered the issue, but there is one issue where they call that. Out. [01:09:38] Speaker A: Out. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:39] Speaker C: In one of the Spawn comics, because it was Sam and Twitch. They were. They're reading the paper and. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Yes. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Oh. So, yeah, it's in a. [01:09:45] Speaker C: It's an article in the paper. Like that. That crazy guy, that bottle. The. The. That bought that baseball or something. [01:09:50] Speaker A: And this is just like a realistic. [01:09:51] Speaker B: It is. [01:09:52] Speaker C: It's him. It's a picture of Todd in the. In the paper. That's when I noticed it. They were talking. [01:09:57] Speaker A: I kind of like that when cartoons just show, like, a real picture. It's always, like, off. [01:10:00] Speaker C: I don't know. [01:10:01] Speaker A: I feel like Red and Stimpy would do that occasionally. Or like, spongebob, where they just show, like, something. [01:10:05] Speaker C: Yeah, but there's, like, a real picture in the. In the background. [01:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fun. [01:10:10] Speaker B: But so. So sponsoring. Like, I thought you kept track of your team. [01:10:15] Speaker A: So four days later, what did they do? [01:10:18] Speaker B: I don't know. Who knows? Jelly, we gotta. We gotta read chapters three. We gotta read chapter three. That's what we're. That's where we're gonna learn Jessica's. Oh, wait, no, because this is after. Okay, never mind. [01:10:31] Speaker A: This is five. [01:10:32] Speaker B: This is five. Yeah. And four. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Four goes right into new racing canes near Jessica. And she's like, I'm gonna try it out. [01:10:40] Speaker B: It took her four days to get through the line. [01:10:42] Speaker A: She's like, three seasons of ER later. [01:10:47] Speaker B: And so she starts trying to track people. And she's like, I can't track Cherry because we're just tracking necroplasm again. Were we just talking about. About, like, their conceit for how to track people when they could just track fucking necroplasm. [01:11:02] Speaker A: And then, like, Jessica's like. And I don't need a lecture from you. Tell me he was dumb, that I didn't listen to him. I was just being. I thought he was being paranoid. [01:11:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Does Terry like, partake? Does he smoke a lot of weed and get all paranoid? [01:11:16] Speaker B: Mark probably. [01:11:17] Speaker A: No, Terry. [01:11:18] Speaker B: Terry. Oh, Terry. [01:11:19] Speaker A: She thought Terry was being paranoid. [01:11:22] Speaker B: Terry's just paranoid. Would. Wouldn't you be paranoid if your best friend in the whole world died and then came back as is this guy [01:11:30] Speaker A: after you married his wife? Yes, I would be. She's like, well, my tracking doesn't work on him. And. Yeah, it doesn't work on Mark either. Yeah, it feels like every line of dialogue is like. But yeah, I understand that. Let me explain this too. I don't know. Like we always say. It's like it also. It only works on Mark when he's human, not when he's. When he's not human. [01:11:51] Speaker C: And it's like, okay, yeah, it's like we get like the over explaining. [01:11:54] Speaker A: You can't track him. We understand. And she's like, she's tracking Monolith. He wouldn't be down. I feel like Monolith wouldn't be down for that. [01:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I think, I think if he, if he. Well, but they explained it in the, in the, the previous issue we covered about how, how that they've been tracking. They've been tracking them so that way they could track them before the government tracked them. So that way they could keep them safe from the government. Etc. Etc. There's too many, there's too many layers in this and not in the good. [01:12:25] Speaker C: They said they were going to track everybody because they didn't know who they could trust. Who was on there. Yeah. [01:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:12:32] Speaker C: right. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Just like the government. [01:12:34] Speaker B: Just like. [01:12:35] Speaker A: And she's like, yo, they're not the only ones. Missing place. She could track place on this whole time. [01:12:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:42] Speaker A: Oh my God. He dropped off the grid three, three days ago. [01:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:48] Speaker A: So there she was having a good time. [01:12:50] Speaker B: She was, she was. Damn. [01:12:53] Speaker A: She was like, I'll get. I mean, it's like an annoying email. It's like plague, spawn and detect. And she's like, yeah, I'll get there. [01:12:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Next thing you know, it's a week later. Oh, I forgot. [01:13:03] Speaker A: Where's my spawn? He ate Javi. Hit Javi's face. [01:13:08] Speaker B: Dang. [01:13:10] Speaker A: Then we learned that Jessica had a run in with him where it impersonated him. [01:13:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it did the, it did the reverse of what it did to Spawn. And she's. She's. [01:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah, she's like, sadly, she calls Them, the heroes. Like, it's like action figures. It's just funny. Calm. The scorch. [01:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Where the does he go at night, Johnny? Where the does Plague spawn go at night? [01:13:36] Speaker A: And of course, she has to mention and pull out her gun for a fact to be like. Also, Mark doesn't have military training, unlike us. [01:13:46] Speaker B: We were in the military. [01:13:47] Speaker A: US Fellow soldier. Wink, wink. Like, it's like, yeah, he would know that. I, like, she, like, pulls out her gun and is like, I'm a. Like, they're sitting there at the computer. She's like, I can shoot somebody. It's just funny. It's like on. It's like on Solo David, where Darth Maul just is like, thank you, and then turns on his lightsaber and it ends the communication. [01:14:10] Speaker B: You got it. You got to know what they're working with, Johnny. [01:14:13] Speaker A: I guess. And what we're working with is across [01:14:16] Speaker B: the city at Jorge's Coffee, Cafe and Bar, there's some guys drinking. [01:14:22] Speaker A: Honestly, just from what's going on inside and, like, the vibe of it should have been bar and cafe. [01:14:29] Speaker C: It seems a little more like it's [01:14:31] Speaker A: a bar than a cafe or just bar. When I worked at Margaritaville, they explained in training, there's Margaritaville Bar and Grill. And, like, we're a bar first. Okay. The food's a bonus. Where were people coming to drink margarita? I worked at Margaritaville Navy Pier for many years, but that they. It. So Jorge should be bar and cafe, not cafe and bar. [01:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And we got this. This dude. Dude telling a horny wedding story. [01:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah. What with a monkey. He's done this before. He likes to tell, like, half of a joke and not tell the punch line. [01:15:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:17] Speaker A: And then someone interrupts. He's done this a couple times. [01:15:19] Speaker C: But, yeah, I know that, like, everybody's supposed to be shocked, but, like, if you. If you look like the third. The third panel down, why is the guy with the blonde goatee just staring at that guy's beer? [01:15:30] Speaker A: Dude, the guy is drunk. He looks like my friend. He reminds my friend Aaron, like, doing, like, real fun up or something is in that. It's just in that second guy, the guy in the green beanie. Like, he looks at him like, oh, my. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Yeah, but they're. They're all. They're all freaking out because Jessica Priest just showed up in her regular human Jessica Priestness. And she's like, I need to talk to this guy who's telling this terrible joke. [01:16:02] Speaker A: And she just goes. [01:16:04] Speaker B: He says, you ruined us. You ruined a good thing. There, sweetheart. [01:16:07] Speaker A: It was. You wasn't trying to fuck that blonde guy? [01:16:10] Speaker B: I guess so. [01:16:11] Speaker A: Maybe free drink. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Jessica Breach doesn't care. That's not why she's here. [01:16:19] Speaker A: And then she slaps. He says, who the fuck are you? [01:16:23] Speaker B: Yeah, because she says. She says, it's funny that you have the same vices that humans do. And he's like, what are you talking about? [01:16:30] Speaker A: Person? [01:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:34] Speaker A: She slaps her hand on his mouth. [01:16:36] Speaker B: She tells him they talk. I like, I like how this is important information. And it's just. She tells him they talk. And then, and then she's like, you gotta, you gotta. You should probably just slow your roll, buddy. Somebody's gonna hear and know that you're a heaven person. Then I'm a hell person. And the angel calls her weak and tries to strong arm her, but he apparently tells her where plague has been. Plague has been attacking angels as well. [01:17:07] Speaker A: So she pulls out her cell phone. Yeah, I feel like in a superhero comic. She's just like warped a spawn and talk to him in person. It's just so like, she said, I won't get my cell phone. I don't know, it's just weird. Like, it's like, I get it, but like, I feel like when John Lane was writing Scorch, they weren't on the cell phones for most of the issue, you know what I'm saying? John Layman has this issue is people [01:17:30] Speaker C: calling the best run on the Scorched, in my opinion. [01:17:34] Speaker A: Oh yeah. It felt like X Men or something. [01:17:36] Speaker C: Like it was like the book. I mean, honestly, it felt to me like the book died when he was no longer writing it because I didn't realize he wasn't writing. But like, what happened then? I looked at the. [01:17:47] Speaker B: We've. We've talked about that a couple of times. Just being like, what is going on with this book? [01:17:50] Speaker C: O [01:17:53] Speaker A: Edge. [01:17:55] Speaker C: I was like, something is off. And I'm like, oh, it's Lyman. He's not here. [01:17:58] Speaker A: So she calls, she calls. Al is like, who's dressed to go like a funeral. Like, what is Al doing? [01:18:05] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:18:06] Speaker A: He's dressed in all black, just chilling in like a marble room. [01:18:10] Speaker B: He looks like he's. [01:18:13] Speaker A: He also barely looks like Al. [01:18:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he looks like. [01:18:17] Speaker A: I wouldn't immediately see that. That looks like Al Sim. [01:18:21] Speaker B: He looks a little bit like Seal. [01:18:23] Speaker A: He looks a little. Yes, he looks a lot like Seal. He's too shiny. Al, he's got like. He's like a little more like. Yeah, rough beard. Like, I don't Know, you always kind of look like Jamie Foxx in the comic. Ever since they announced that true Jamie Foxx still wants to play Spawn. [01:18:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And so he's like, stop calling it a hymn. Plague Spawn is an it. [01:18:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:44] Speaker A: Don't. Don't miss pronouns. [01:18:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:49] Speaker B: And he's like, I'm gonna send it a beacon so that way it'll come out. And then 10 minutes later, Green Bean lights up the sky for two seconds. [01:18:59] Speaker A: So Jessica Priest just sit outside that bar for 10 minutes, like, smoking a cigarette. What you been doing? [01:19:04] Speaker B: And then she's. She's stunned to see a new reading has popped up on her little tracker doohickey. And it's one of the missing. [01:19:11] Speaker A: Hilarious. Because her tracker doohickey looks like. Like the old. [01:19:15] Speaker C: Like an old. Like a. [01:19:16] Speaker B: Like a Palm Pilot. [01:19:19] Speaker A: Like a garment. I remember when I was, like, in middle school, at some point, my dad was like, you know, worked in business. So one day I got his old Palm Pilot. I was like, this is the coolest thing ever. I used it for, like, a day. [01:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:30] Speaker A: I was like, I'm gonna write a journal on this thing. And, like, I was like, nah, I'm not gonna use that. [01:19:35] Speaker B: Then you had to. You had to, like, learn the weird Alphabet that they had. [01:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:39] Speaker B: Because it wasn't, like, fully sensitive enough for you to just write out the [01:19:43] Speaker A: Nokia classic brick phone with Snake. And that was. [01:19:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that was. That was the jam and T9. [01:19:49] Speaker C: I. I can remember my. My very first cell phone. And it was. It was. It wasn't a Nokia, but it was one of those gray, like, flat phones, and it had the green, like, LED screen on it, like, on top. And I thought that was, like, the coolest thing ever. And it's like, oh, yeah. [01:20:04] Speaker A: You know, I feel like it was in the maze. [01:20:05] Speaker C: I mean, you know, back in the day. I mean, you know, I'm showing my age here, but, you know, that was, like, the first cell phone I ever had. And it's like, you know, you're calling people going, guess where I'm calling you from [01:20:16] Speaker A: that. You know, I didn't get a cell phone until 12th grade, which would have been 2004. I got a cell. [01:20:23] Speaker C: Yeah. My first. You know, my first cell phone was, like, 30 years ago. [01:20:30] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't. [01:20:31] Speaker A: It's almost 30 years ago for me. [01:20:32] Speaker B: I didn't get one until I started driving to school. School, which was my junior year, so 2005. [01:20:40] Speaker A: Okay. [01:20:41] Speaker C: But no, I got. [01:20:42] Speaker A: My first cell phone was. Because my grand. They got my grandma's cell Phone is when they locked you, like a two year contract. [01:20:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:20:48] Speaker A: And she said, I don't want this. I think it's. I think it's demonic. [01:20:51] Speaker C: And I don't want to use it no back. [01:20:54] Speaker A: So they had no one to use it. So, Johnny, do you want things? Everyone else, all my aunts and uncles said cell phone. My brother had a cell phone because he's in college. He has own cell phone. Like, Johnny, do you want to use the cell phone? For two years, I was like, sure. [01:21:07] Speaker C: You know, back when, when I got a cell phone, it was the. The first, like, time I got, like a phone plan you had. You know, you would pay for like, so many minutes a month, but then you got free nights and weekends. So weekends you're watching the clock, you know, waiting for time. Then that's when you're texting and calling everybody. Like, no, no, wait, you know, time's up, time's up. You know, Or. [01:21:25] Speaker B: Or when they came out with a free cell to sell. So if you called somebody else's cell phone, you could get a free call. [01:21:31] Speaker C: But [01:21:33] Speaker A: I had Singular. [01:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:34] Speaker A: So I started with Singular. That was bought by AT T, but Singular and AT and T. Early AT and T. And I think still it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, it was. Yeah. In between the same network. It was all free. [01:21:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I remember, like, Muskogee was a very singular town. And when people would move in, they would be like, what the. What the is with everybody having Singular here? And it's like, that's the only thing we get. [01:21:59] Speaker A: I'm singular guy. I. I was a singular guy. I signed up for my first cell phone my freshman year of college because girls were asking to text me. I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. I have a landline in my dorm room. I was like, I need a cell phone. So I went on singular.com and it was one of the first early things that got, like, in the mail, too. Like, something I ordered online. I remember the first book I ever ordered online would have been 2004. And I got Dark Tower 7 from Amazon. [01:22:26] Speaker B: I think the first book I ever ordered online, $20 cheaper than no Wool, was a book for my. One of my classes, because one of my teachers was like, don't go to the bookstore. Don't go to the bookstore. Just buy them online. That's what I did. Yeah, but you could use. You could use. You could just put it on your. You could just put it on your bursar bill. But so Jessica Priest takes 12 minutes to find Jim Downing. And when she finds him, he's 12 minutes. It says 12 minutes later. [01:22:56] Speaker A: God damn it. He was like, I've already used 10 twice this issue. What's. He goes. I go, it's like George Lucas is like, I don't want to see anything. Too much time. But it can't do 10 again. What about 12? And why does the need to say that? [01:23:12] Speaker C: I wonder if Todd does that in real life. He's like, all right, I'll be done. Like 12 minutes. [01:23:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll be there at 11.5. [01:23:18] Speaker C: I'll be there in four days. Just. [01:23:19] Speaker A: Just. [01:23:20] Speaker C: Just hang tight. [01:23:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:23:21] Speaker B: And Jim Downing just says, he's cutting us. Caprice is like, are you okay? Jim's just like, no, the black thing, it has. It has them, you know, Jim Downing can't really remember much, and Jessica Priest is trying to get answers out of him. She's like, you think they. You think. I think they got Terry. You think they have Terry? He's just like, I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know, dude. [01:23:44] Speaker A: He has Spawn, and he wants to drain him. [01:23:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:23:47] Speaker A: Which sounds like something from Only Spawns, right? [01:23:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I want to drain you. [01:23:55] Speaker B: Then we. We cut back to that place where Maimon took Terry, where Jim Downing and Mark were chained up, and Monolith was being attacked by plague Spawn. And there's nobody chained up anymore, but there is, like, a. Left behind. Terry got raptured with his. His wallet conveniently flopped out of his pocket and shows his driver's license. So we know that that is Terry's. Terry's clothing. [01:24:25] Speaker C: It's so hot in hell that Terry just had to strip. That's what happened. [01:24:28] Speaker A: He's like, yeah, that's what I was thinking. [01:24:30] Speaker B: Either that. Either that or this is actually that hotel from the witches. And he got turned into a mouse, [01:24:37] Speaker A: but he, like, crawls out of the clothes. [01:24:39] Speaker B: He crawls out of the clothes. That movie scared the out of. [01:24:42] Speaker C: Of me. [01:24:43] Speaker B: That was also. That was also a library movie. But, yeah, the. The transformation scene where all the. All the witches gather in the conference room and tear off their disguises and then turn all the children into mice and then step on them. Oh, what? [01:24:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they step on them. [01:24:59] Speaker B: They're there. They're there to kill and eat the children after they've been turned into mice. Oh, it's. It's. It's up. [01:25:07] Speaker A: Damn. [01:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:09] Speaker A: Well, so we get Terry's driver license number. [01:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:14] Speaker A: And then Spawn's just in the alley, brooding. And he's like. [01:25:17] Speaker B: He said. He said he intended to send his [01:25:19] Speaker A: beacon, so he, like, shot a big thing out of his chest. [01:25:24] Speaker C: You said we get Terry's driver's license number? It's 01234-5678. [01:25:30] Speaker A: Oh, God. [01:25:31] Speaker C: That's literally what it says. ID 01234-5678. [01:25:35] Speaker B: Terry Fitzgerald. [01:25:37] Speaker C: Okay. [01:25:37] Speaker B: All right. [01:25:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Then sends a beacon. Sorry, I said it pointed out. [01:25:41] Speaker B: And then. [01:25:41] Speaker A: And then now occupation over his name. Is this occupation or documents over his name? [01:25:49] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:25:51] Speaker C: But then below his name, it says. It looks like it says something. Appliance. [01:25:56] Speaker A: He's an appliance guy. [01:25:59] Speaker B: He likes. He likes his washers and dryers. And so Spawn is just waiting in the alley after ascending his beacon until he's no longer alone in the shadows. And then Plaguespawn speaks, says, it's time, Al, for you to get punished. And Spawn's like, so you speak. And it says, with some new help from your friend Terry, you'll never want to see him again. Or if you ever want to see him again, you'll do exactly what I say. And then we get some bloviating about what happens next. It's posture, it's physicality, both changed. This is the same creature that slithered on the fringes, only showing itself when it needed something. This is something different, something dark. And then they read the final chapters in the scorch number 50. Nothing will be the same again. [01:26:51] Speaker C: But, I mean, basically, they've just given the whole thing away, like, right here. So why, oh, why do we need to read the. You know, the other one to see what's going on? Because they basically just told us right there. Yeah. [01:27:03] Speaker A: Explicitly. [01:27:04] Speaker C: Not. Not. They didn't. Not so many words. [01:27:06] Speaker A: And he didn't tell us how many minutes had passed. [01:27:08] Speaker C: Oh, but hey, while. While we've been recording this, I thought I. I had a thought. Maybe the reason that we get all these time stamps is because, you know, as Todd's writing the story, he gets called away for one reason or other. And then he looks at the clock when he's back to ride, he's like, oh, okay, so it's. [01:27:26] Speaker B: I wonder. I wonder what. What called him away for four days, right. [01:27:30] Speaker C: Or 2012. You know, the 12 minutes or 10 minutes or, you know, he happened to look at the clock at 11. Actually. Actually exactly 11:37. He had to put that in there, like. [01:27:39] Speaker A: But I mean, that's probably true because you guys honestly think. Do you think Todd McFarland does second drafts. [01:27:45] Speaker C: No, he. He said. He said, like, many, many times that, like, he has an idea of what the issue is going to be about, and then he just sits down and writes it right before it's time to go a print. [01:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:58] Speaker A: And the old George Lucas. [01:28:01] Speaker C: But then he's also. He. He has said one time before that whenever we get an issue that has way more art than dialogue is, he didn't have time to write it. So he fills it out with, you know, the art and the dialogue's peppered in. And he. He'd done that on one of the early issues of. I know he did that on one of the early issues of Sam and Twitch when he was writing it, because there was, like, maybe three lines of dialogue in the whole issue. The rest of it was just told through the, you know, the panels, which, I mean, was fine. We got the gist of it, but it was actually a better read because we could make our own interpretation. And he wasn't over explaining everything. [01:28:34] Speaker A: The best modern thing he's written is probably that first arc of Salmon Twitch. [01:28:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:39] Speaker A: Because that was just him. That's pretty. It was pretty good. It was restrained, although. [01:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:44] Speaker C: And I. I don't honestly think so, but. And I'm gonna have to go back and look so I can, you know, actually remember. But I think it was like, gunslinger, issue 38, because, you know, he's written all of them. After I got done reading, I'm like, there is no way Todd wrote this. Like, I mean, honestly, like, the. The issue, the way that it was written, it. I mean, I wasn't gonna sit there and solve like a baby, but it, like, it made me, like, tear up a little bit. I'm like, this isn't Todd's writing. Like, who wrote this? Like, yeah, there wasn't over explaining. There wasn't everything. Like, you could just tell something was different. Like, I don't know. Yeah, somebody else wrote it. [01:29:20] Speaker A: You have the right cup of coffee that day. [01:29:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, it was just completely out of character for Todd. Like, his writing style. It was like. And then, you know, the next very next issue went back to the very same thing. So. [01:29:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. [01:29:31] Speaker C: Yeah, it was like. You know, when you read something, you're like, that's not their style. That's not their vibe. Like, I literally said, there's no way Todd wrote this. But, I mean, he very well could have. You know, he was, like, in the zone or something that day. But it was a very, very good episode. [01:29:47] Speaker B: Johnny. Mark, you need more spawns. Universe always. Don't miss. Don't miss the ongoing titles. Don't do it. [01:29:55] Speaker A: Those great covers. They're great. [01:29:57] Speaker B: They're so good. And then we get the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. [01:30:04] Speaker C: Oh, they made paper. [01:30:06] Speaker B: Yeah. They're making TMNT page punchers, which. [01:30:10] Speaker C: Fun fact, whenever Tata said, like, as far as the toy lines go, whenever he gets a new IP or whenever he gets new license, that's how he starts. They start out with making the page punches before they actually go into making a production of, like, any actual figures. So that's. [01:30:26] Speaker B: I mean, they're probably. They're probably cheaper to produce. [01:30:28] Speaker C: Yeah, but it's. No, it has something to do with, like, the licensing or when he gets the contract. Like, he starts out making them first and then goes on to make, like, the actual. The, you know, the toy lines. [01:30:37] Speaker A: That's cool. David Arrow Videos releasing a box set. Oh, the original three of the trilogy. Yeah. [01:30:44] Speaker B: Hell, yeah, you. Were you a Turtles man at all, Mark? [01:30:48] Speaker C: I. I loved the Turtles growing up. I mean, I. I had some of the. The. The toys, but not the third one. Not the third movie. And I don't know why. Like, I can't remember if it was a licensing thing or what. For whatever reason, they didn't have Rocksteady and Bebop. They had the two. [01:31:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. They had all the. The babies. [01:31:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:31:09] Speaker A: Toca and Razar. [01:31:10] Speaker C: Yeah, that's it. But like, we expected. [01:31:12] Speaker A: I love the second one. I was a kid. It's ridiculous when you watch it. Oh, the first one's just still pretty good. [01:31:17] Speaker B: It's a good movie. [01:31:18] Speaker C: And the first one was, like, ahead of its time. It was a. That was a great movie. [01:31:22] Speaker A: That was. That was the most successful independent movie of all time until the Blair Witch Project. [01:31:27] Speaker C: Oh, God, that movie. That. That. The Blair Witch Party. The whole movie is like, josh, Josh, Josh, where's the map? Where's the map? We're dead. Like, that's the whole movie. That's it. [01:31:35] Speaker B: It's good. But it's good, though. It's good. I. I didn't watch it until I was in college, and it scared the. Out of. [01:31:41] Speaker C: Yeah, but that. That movie pissed so many people off because, you know, they tried to. They tried to market it as, like, a real documentary, and the actors had to, like, stay, like, hidden or whatever until the movie actually came. I was like, ah, guess what it was. It's all fake. [01:31:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I fell for it. I was in, like, seventh grade. I thought it was real. It was crazy. That's the issue. [01:32:03] Speaker B: That's the issue. That's the issue. And I'm sure. I'm sure you could hear them in the background there, the dogs going in [01:32:10] Speaker C: every once in a while. They've been, you know, letting us know what they liked and what they didn't like. [01:32:14] Speaker B: They. They're saying, it's time to rate that puppy. So we gotta. We gotta rate this. We gotta rate this puppy. [01:32:19] Speaker A: It feels like two issues, but it is just one. [01:32:21] Speaker B: It is just. It is just one. It's a. It's a fat boy. It's a five dollar fat boy way. [01:32:26] Speaker A: That's what they used to call me in middle school, the $5 fat boy. [01:32:31] Speaker B: The $5 fat boy is the five for five burgers at Brahms, right? [01:32:36] Speaker A: Or at Arby's. [01:32:37] Speaker B: Or at Arby's. Yeah. [01:32:38] Speaker C: You guys keep talking about BR. [01:32:40] Speaker A: They still have the 5 for 555 at Brahms, but it's the small burger. It's not the normal. [01:32:45] Speaker B: That's still. Still five burgers. Still five burgers. [01:32:49] Speaker A: Who's the guy that eats all the burgers? Wimpy. [01:32:51] Speaker B: Wimpy. That he'll gladly. [01:32:54] Speaker C: Tuesday. [01:32:55] Speaker A: Yeah, Tuesday. [01:32:56] Speaker C: Tuesday for a hamburger today. Oh, I would gladly pay you Tuesday for hamburger today. [01:33:01] Speaker A: Well, I'm gonna pay you a puppy for rating this puppy because it's time to rate the puppy. So first up, only up, we had gunslinger 50. Oh, my gosh. [01:33:14] Speaker C: That's a. [01:33:15] Speaker B: That's. Yeah. [01:33:15] Speaker A: That. [01:33:15] Speaker B: That does not sound like a good review. [01:33:17] Speaker C: No, it does not. [01:33:20] Speaker A: I mean, we've talked about it. I. I feel like I wish it could have been a celebration of what Gunslinger has been. Because one thing I want to talk about, I was saying for the end is like, what a journey it's been from that kind of relaunch of Spawn into, like. And I feel like none of these new series, us becoming fans getting into it again, like, and I'm speaking for myself and I know David and probably you too, Mark. Like, if they didn't have that hard push with King Spawn number one, Dunslinger Number one, and Scorcher one, I wouldn't have gotten into Spawn because, like. Or, like, back into it. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, that was a big. A big catalyst point, I feel like. And I'm just disappointed that this isn't a celebration of, like, this should be like, Linda's, like, hanging off a railroad track and Javi's gonna save her, but he's dying. But then Dakota runs in on a raptor, and Taylor's there And, like, I don't know, like, it just didn't. Like, there was such a vibe going with Gunslinger. And, like. Like, it just. It makes it cheap when, like, I know that's the nature of comics, but when they can just interrupt the story that's been going for, like, 47 issues or 48 or 49, you know, and then just be like, well, he just shows up for a couple scenes in his 50th issue. Yeah, it is real sad, but it's okay. It's like I said, it's another event. So it's all kind of samey, like, people getting together. There's a lot of cell phone talk in this issue. It's just. It's not my favorite. I'm gonna give it 2.5 cell phones. [01:34:54] Speaker B: All right. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. [01:34:57] Speaker A: Out of five. [01:34:58] Speaker C: Pretty good one. [01:34:58] Speaker B: It's a good one. Would you like to go second or last? Mark? [01:35:04] Speaker C: I will go second. Even though Johnny took my. Took my rating, I was gonna go with the cell phones, but. Yeah. [01:35:12] Speaker A: What's this issue is about? [01:35:14] Speaker B: Johnny has a bad habit of stealing. What? You were gonna. [01:35:16] Speaker C: No, no, he's. No, he's fine. [01:35:18] Speaker A: But all they need to do is, like, if. If Maimon just, like, blew up, like, AT T's network, they'd all be. [01:35:24] Speaker B: Yeah, they would. It would be like every contemporary horror movie where they have to find some way to make the. The electronics network. [01:35:32] Speaker A: I mean, that's. It's. It's. It's true. It's bad for storytelling. [01:35:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it sure is. [01:35:40] Speaker C: I do kind of have to. I do have to, you know, kind of side with Johnny. Like, you know, these should have all been. You know, they're each own separate stories. And, you know, the way that they try to tie these together, it just. It is kind of a mess. But, you know, but just onto what Johnny was saying, like, you know, the. The introduction of all these. The hard push for all these new series that came out, and it got you guys back into Spawn. Like, what, me. What got me back in was, you know, I. I've said before that I lost my collection. I got it back. And then I started looking into Spawn, and I saw that it was coming up on issue 300. I'm like, wow, this is still going. So that's what. That's what got me, you know, reinvested. And, you know, when Todd said, you know, if you read 297, 298, and 299, that'll get you caught up to 300. And then you can take off from there. So that's when, that's when I jumped back on board. And you know, then. So that was before all of these new titles came out. And I was like, so excited, like, for Gunslinger, like, you know, that he was gonna have his own book. And then to get all the way up to issue, you know, 50. And you know, like you've said, he's barely in the book. Like, this is not, it's not even a gunslinger book. [01:36:57] Speaker A: No. [01:36:58] Speaker C: And then, you know, now that I've revisited it, like the whole, the whole plot point of him getting torn to shreds just doesn't make sense at all. It doesn't fit, period. [01:37:10] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I just have such fond memories of those big fat staple in it. First of King Spawn number one, Gunslinger number one, and Scorch number one. And I feel like it should have been more the vein of that. [01:37:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:37:25] Speaker A: So just this like, crossover event that feels like mid level main title Spawn. [01:37:31] Speaker C: Yeah, I, I think they, I think Todd could have done a better job as a, at a crossover event if he would have just stuck to each story but had a way to just kind of thread them together just a little, not do this grand spread, especially where he's, he's skipping back and forth because he honestly ends up ruining the, the, the story by, you know, jumping around like he does, because. [01:37:53] Speaker A: But it's not even that grand. It's people like walking around, talking on cell phones, waiting for 10 minutes and [01:37:59] Speaker C: play Spawn just like, you know, ripping everybody's chest open. So I, I would say if I, if I give it a rating, I would have to say it's gonna be, I, I, I'll be a little more lean. I'll give it three and a half guns to Terry's forehead. [01:38:14] Speaker B: Dang. [01:38:15] Speaker A: That's what he gets. Don't go mess with that demon or I'll shoot you. [01:38:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:38:19] Speaker C: It's like you're gonna, you're gonna die. Either way, either I'm gonna shoot you or he's gonna tear you apart. Make you make your pick. Make a choice. But yeah, yeah, this was as far as the three titles go. To not have your titular character in there is just kind of a miss, like, barely in there. [01:38:36] Speaker A: It just feels generic to these other events. There's a threat, Spawn's looking for him. Then a new character emerges at the end is usually what happens. [01:38:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:47] Speaker A: You know, and it's like, we've done this a few times. [01:38:50] Speaker B: Yeah, true. I mean, we've done it more than A few times, especially recently. So I really don't have anything to add on top of what you guys have said because then it would just be. [01:39:03] Speaker A: I feel bad but. But even the art's kind of unremarkable because not a lot of fun, memorable stuff happens. [01:39:11] Speaker B: Like the coolest. [01:39:11] Speaker A: The coolest people like ignoring each other. It's like. [01:39:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:14] Speaker A: Missed warnings and like cell phones. Like, it's just the coolest. [01:39:19] Speaker B: The coolest part definitely is the hobby. Getting his base ripped off. [01:39:23] Speaker A: But it doesn't make any sense. [01:39:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it two Terry's wallets because there are. You do see Terry. Yeah, two Terry's wallets. [01:39:34] Speaker A: And every man needs two wallets when you take the sporting events and one you carry daily. [01:39:41] Speaker B: So. Yeah. Well that is. That is that puppy rated gunslinger number 50. [01:39:47] Speaker C: One thing I did notice though is Segovia's art in the. You know, in this book isn't as manga. [01:39:55] Speaker A: He's definitely making a choice with that new spawner. [01:39:59] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely is. [01:40:01] Speaker C: This is sort of manga esque but not like in 376. [01:40:07] Speaker B: He's. He's. He's had some flirts with it. He flirts with it from time to time but definitely not as. Not as much as the spawn that came out today. [01:40:16] Speaker C: I. I just don't see. I don't know. [01:40:19] Speaker A: I just like maybe he's watching Astro Boy on Pluto tv maybe. [01:40:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Like I don't know. [01:40:26] Speaker A: Or Speed Racer. [01:40:27] Speaker C: It just seems so like contradictory to you know, to the type of story that it is like that book. [01:40:33] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:40:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:34] Speaker C: And I'm, you know, I'm not bashing manga. I'm just. It doesn't. [01:40:38] Speaker A: No. I don't love. David's seen more anime and manga than I have. [01:40:43] Speaker B: I think probably I haven't really read much manga. [01:40:47] Speaker A: I haven't either. [01:40:48] Speaker B: It took me. It took me a very long time to be like, hey, actually I do like anime. And so, you know, I got that baggage to work through, I guess. [01:40:56] Speaker C: I. I've seen the only anime that I've actually. Or yeah. That I've actually seen. What was the. Oh, solo leveling. [01:41:06] Speaker B: I don't. I don't know that one. [01:41:07] Speaker A: I've never heard of it. [01:41:08] Speaker C: Oh, it's. It's decent. [01:41:10] Speaker B: It's. [01:41:10] Speaker C: It's. It's. I mean pretty. I mean I, I don't have any other anime to compare it to but these. It's about these. In this world. These people, they. They all have like different rankings of like, like the fighting style that they have and they have to go into these portals to close it to, to fight these bad guys or whatever. And this guy is like a low tier, like, hero, but ends up, like ranking up and being like the top dog, like the best. [01:41:38] Speaker B: That sounds pretty awesome. That sounds pretty awesome. [01:41:40] Speaker C: Yeah, it's on. I'm sure it's on currency roll, but there's that. There are manga, there are books out. [01:41:45] Speaker A: Okay. Which I've, I've watched Speed Racer I watched as a kid. [01:41:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah? Yeah. [01:41:52] Speaker A: It's Space Ghost between Space Ghost episodes. And I watched, I mean, when I was. I watched the first two seasons of Pokemon when it was coming to America. [01:42:04] Speaker B: I want to be the best. [01:42:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Song rule. Name that Pokemon Diglett. But I don't love. I, I know. I, I, My love of Pokemon is not carried on. I don't really, I don't care about Pokemon now. I never liked the games. They're not that good, I think. And I like Nintendo games. Like, I have a Switch too. But, like, I'm just, I get to save a lot of money every year [01:42:33] Speaker C: because I don't care about Pokemon because all the scalpers are, like, getting them all and buying them up and then trying to resell. [01:42:38] Speaker A: Well, I just never, I never, I like the world of the first season. I could get like 150 once they were on. Beyond that, I grew up a little bit. I was like, I'm good, you know, and like. But the original run and when it was a fad when I was in, like, seventh grade was really fun. And then I've watched as far as anime series, Pokemon, Speed Racer. I mean, I've seen like, Ghibli movies and stuff, like other anime movies, but series, I think. Oh, Loop on the third. I watched a lot of Loop on the third. [01:43:06] Speaker B: Oh, that's, that's on. That's on a, that's on Pluto TV a lot too. [01:43:09] Speaker A: Oh, David. It was so funny because they did it like a modern translation. So it's like this, like, 80s 90s anime. But, like, in one episode on, because he showed on Adult Swim on Cartoon Network, he was like, oh, you remind me of George W. Bush. And I was like, what? They have these, like, modern references in there. It was so funny. But Lu on the third's fun. And then that's it. What anime series have you watched, David? [01:43:41] Speaker B: We don't, we don't, we don't. We don't need to go into all the ones I've watched. [01:43:45] Speaker A: Okay. [01:43:46] Speaker B: Okay. I've watched I've watched. I've watched a fair number of them, so. [01:43:49] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Okay. Well, that'll be. [01:43:51] Speaker C: Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong. [01:43:53] Speaker A: I didn't know. I said no. [01:43:55] Speaker B: Yeah, once. Yeah, it's good. Anime's good. Anyway's good as hell. Watch some Neon Genesis Evangeli. [01:44:06] Speaker A: I've heard that's good. That's like. It's Godfather. [01:44:09] Speaker B: It's wild as hell. [01:44:12] Speaker A: David, have you seen the Dark Knight? [01:44:16] Speaker B: It's a. It's a little indie film. [01:44:18] Speaker A: I feel like that's the equivalent of, like, movies, like, saying, have you seen Neon Genesis? [01:44:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Or. Or Cowboy Bebop? Cowboy Bebop was the first thing I saw. [01:44:27] Speaker A: I've seen the movie theaters and haven't seen the series. [01:44:32] Speaker B: Nice. [01:44:34] Speaker A: It was fun. That's Spawn, baby. [01:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah, we normally. We normally shout out to the Spawn community, and obviously we're going to default to Mark again. [01:44:44] Speaker A: Mark, is there anything Spawning. [01:44:47] Speaker B: Tell anybody about anything [01:44:51] Speaker C: other than it's really late? No. [01:44:54] Speaker A: Yeah. No, [01:44:58] Speaker C: nothing. Nothing comes to mind. [01:45:02] Speaker A: Okay. [01:45:02] Speaker C: I. No, I'm drawing a blank. [01:45:07] Speaker B: No, no, no more. You still. You still. You got your video channel? [01:45:11] Speaker C: Yeah. No, no. Yeah. I mean, yes. I'm. I'm like, okay, if we're gonna go there. Yeah, yeah. I've got. So far, I've gotten. I'm up to 140 followers over on YouTube. [01:45:22] Speaker A: Nice. [01:45:23] Speaker C: I've got 15 episodes under my belt. [01:45:26] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:45:27] Speaker C: This weekend, the. So, yeah, I mean, what I do is I. I'm a glutton for punishment. I. I sat down on Sunday. I record, edit, and post all the same day. I'm thinking about, you know, spreading that out a little, but. Because some days there's technical difficulties. But I know this. This weekend I'm going to be covering. You know, back in 2022, they had the 30th anniversary of Spawn, so they lent him out to a bunch of covers, and I have them all. So you're gonna get used to watching me, you know, go through all the covers. Like I said, you know, I recently, you know, watched the movie and then. I don't know. I. I eventually, I do. I do want to. Which I told you guys before the show that I had sat down and painstakingly tried to. Like, I am not a computer person at all. The fact that I even got a YouTube channel going, you know, by myself in the first place is a. A feat in of itself. But I'm looking into being able to do streaming so that I can do, like, interviews and. And have people on I want to have, like, you know, artists like Jeff Monk on there. [01:46:32] Speaker B: Nice. [01:46:33] Speaker C: I've had. I've had a few people reach out to ask me about. About being on the show. So I just, I. I mean, I just try to spread the love, you know, for Spawn and, you know, share and hopefully, you know, bring other people in or showing something. Show them something that they, you know, don't have or hadn't seen before. And I'm still always posting over on Instagram, always shouting, you guys out on YouTube. [01:46:59] Speaker A: We appreciate it. [01:47:00] Speaker B: I do. [01:47:01] Speaker C: Yeah. You and David. [01:47:04] Speaker A: Yes. [01:47:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:47:05] Speaker A: The best. [01:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:06] Speaker A: With the two pillars of the swan. Immunity. [01:47:08] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I. I really. I mean, I love, you know, that's why I thought about, you know, like, moving, like, moving my show, like, to posting on, like, Wednesday nights. That way, you know, you guys are ending the week. Spawnography is starting the week, and then I'm, you know, kind of in the middle, so it's all spread out. But I mean, they're all pre recorded, so you can, you know, have plenty of content throughout the week if you get. [01:47:31] Speaker A: If you get ahead of your own schedule. Which is the artist. [01:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:36] Speaker C: Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, no, I, you know, it's. I try to stick to, you know, posting at the same time and, And. And things like that, but it's like, some days, you know, it's hard. I mean, there's, you know, recording difficulties or your computer's wanting to lag, and you're sitting there trying to get it to upload and. And it's like, you know, the struggles and, you know, that we go through. [01:47:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we know. [01:47:55] Speaker C: It's like, I. I don't. I. I'm not the one. I. I've told people that I kind of do, like, the. I do kind of have, like, the Todd mentality. It's like, I don't. I have an idea what I want to do for each episode, but. But I can't sit down and write a script. I can't sit down and write out what I say. So there's a lot of ums and odds and, you know, it's not perfect, but, you know, I'd rather it be, you know, authentic than sit there and try to dial it in and make it, you know, this. [01:48:21] Speaker A: This, like, hey, guess what else isn't perfect but is authentic. [01:48:25] Speaker B: What's that? [01:48:25] Speaker A: Spawn. [01:48:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:26] Speaker C: All right. [01:48:27] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:48:28] Speaker A: And next week we will be reading not specifically Spawn, But Spawn's universe, two of our favorites, Sam and Twitch 21 and Rat City 2121, Blackjack Baby, don't forget to. [01:48:43] Speaker B: You know. While you're Following Mark on YouTube and Instagram, follow us ever at. Regarding Spawnpod. While you're on the Internet, look up Lonnie Bones. He does our music. Just Google Lonnie Bones music. He's excellent. He's wonderful. Don't forget to, like, subscribe, follow, share with your friends and families, neighbors, co workers, people you've met on the Internet. Enemies, all that stuff. [01:49:09] Speaker A: Priests. [01:49:09] Speaker B: Priests mention us during confession. Make sure the big guy. The big guy upstairs can hear us. Yeah, directly. [01:49:19] Speaker C: And then we have one more of these to get through. [01:49:22] Speaker A: One more. Well, I'll mark back in the next few weeks, and we'll finish up this 50 extravaganza. [01:49:29] Speaker B: 50, 50. 50. A little 50. 50, 50 on that. [01:49:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's getting a little late. Spawn After Dark. [01:49:37] Speaker B: After Dark. And instead of getting wild and crazy, I think it's just getting sleepier and sleepier. [01:49:43] Speaker A: Yes. So you know what you have to do, David. [01:49:46] Speaker B: So I think I have to say good night and good luck. And may the scorched be with you. [01:49:52] Speaker C: And to you as well. [01:49:53] Speaker A: Good night and with you. [01:49:56] Speaker B: That's. That's the news. [01:49:57] Speaker A: We will not go quietly into the night. Good night and good luck. That feels so profound. [01:50:04] Speaker B: It wasn't. Yeah. [01:50:05] Speaker C: I was expecting you. Well, sorry, Johnny. I've run into things to say. I was. I was waiting for that. You didn't. You didn't. [01:50:10] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I was pushing him towards it. [01:50:13] Speaker B: That requires my brain working. [01:50:16] Speaker C: Right. [01:50:16] Speaker B: It's regarding Spawn nights, so, you know, you never know what you're gonna get. [01:50:19] Speaker C: Hey, there's. [01:50:20] Speaker A: There. [01:50:20] Speaker C: There's. There's. There's key points that I look forward to in the show. And you. You failed me. You let me down. [01:50:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like. It's like the times I try to steal the intro from Johnny, and I just fail at it so bad. [01:50:34] Speaker A: Well, guess what never fails? That music, baby. Hit it, Lonnie Bones. Shit. I just realized we didn't do the intro either. [01:50:48] Speaker B: We. [01:50:48] Speaker A: We are respawn. Regarding Spawn Reach. We bring you two issues from Spawns. You ever accept when we don't? This week is no different. Except it is. You only have one issue, and then we tell you what the issues are. I can't believe I left that out. I'm so sorry, Mark. [01:51:12] Speaker B: Sam.