[00:00:00] Speaker A: The violator has been telling them of a campaign against another Spawn fought nearly 800 years ago. This tale, we are quick to point out, involves two the spawn and the fax.
Good evening and welcome to the Mal Bulls. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast.
I'm your co host, John Fisher.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, it is a beautiful, drizzly, rainy, early spring day. And I'm gonna just take some tea and go bundle up in bed and just go back to sleep. Because that's literally sounds about right. That's literally all a rainy, gloomy spring day is good for, right?
[00:01:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Sitting on the couch watching some stuff or just sleeping or reading.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: Watching some stuff. Like that new universal monsters Pluto tv channel, maybe.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: I was watching it yesterday.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:01:27] Speaker A: They had the Spanish Dracula on, and then they had one of the hammer horror Frankensteins.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Nice. Nice.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: With Peter Cushing.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: Does the Spanish Dracula say, I want to suck your blood?
[00:01:42] Speaker A: No. It is good, though.
It's interesting because it's kind of very similar. It's almost like a remake, but just with different actors and different casts.
Some people prefer it, evidently. I was looking it up last night.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: It would be great if it were like.
What was it? Shadows of the vampire. Is that the movie with Willem Dafoe? Yeah.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: Where's the real vampire?
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Where it's the real vampire. The spanish version is the one with the real vampire. Or is he a real vampire?
[00:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah, they filmed it at night on the same sets as the Bela Lugosi one.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: So it definitely sounds like it would be spookier getting the night shoots.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: Yeah, they shoot at night, so that means it's spooky automatically, right?
[00:02:21] Speaker B: They're working on their night moves as.
Who is that Bob Seeger? Is that. Who says that?
[00:02:27] Speaker A: I think it's Bob Seeger.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Night moves.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: Gotta work on him.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: Well, yeah, sure are.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Gotta work on something.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: We're working on something here, Johnny. What are we working on?
[00:02:39] Speaker A: We're working on bringing you two issues from Spawn's universe.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: And we are back in the classics. The early spawn, Todd McFarlane, still writing and drawing. I almost said writing and directing.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: Not yet.
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Not yet. Maybe soon or maybe not. He said that no one wants him for director. There's an interview, he was like, yeah, it's a little too much to ask for, like, everything. Hollywood doesn't work that way.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: I have a feeling he would be. No, you know, not like a.
I don't think he would be a bad director. I just think he would be difficult to like, actually do what he wants. Like, I have a feeling he would just be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. And everybody on their production would be like, oh, God, just say no to something. Please just say no.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah, you have too many ideas.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: But anyway, speaking of, just say no.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Two issues from Swans universe, and we're back in the classics here. Like I was saying, we're doing spawn number 15.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: All the way back in the far off land of November 1993.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: What were you doing in November 1993, Johnny?
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Oh, I don't know. I was probably getting really excited for Christmas. Cause I was a little kid, and Christmas is, like, a really big deal, I think. I bet I got a bunch of Jurassic park toys that year.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I think that was the year my sister got me the big twelve inch red Ranger action figure from Power Rangers. And she bought it in July and just spent, like, at least once a week from July up until Christmas was like, I already brought your Christmas present, and you don't know what it is.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: That's hilarious. And she kept it that long, huh?
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It's no wonder I have anxiety, Johnny.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Torture you?
But, yeah, it's spawn 15. So it is the second part of myths, but it is the issue where we find out the conclusion of the violator medieval spawn fight that the violators telling our friends in the alley, Spaz, Mark and Clint, the three kids, the three punk kids, the Three Kings. I don't know if they're punks. They're more like. Just like little kids.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: Way too young to be hanging on an alley with a clown.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, they're. They're urban ne'er do wells. They're Latchkey kids.
And then what about our second issue, Johnny? What we cover in second this week.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Second time, we got gunslinger 27, Johnny's favorite number. My favorite number, my birthday.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: Johnny's favorite issue of gunslinger.
[00:05:27] Speaker A: Uh, I don't know about that. It's funny, that's for sure.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: It's.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: It's something.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: It's. It's a nice little. It's nice. A nice little reprieve from, like, the large, like, universe shattering stories going on around it.
[00:05:42] Speaker A: No, it is. It's hilarious, too.
I like. I like Carl. I just like that he's just Carl.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Nothing. Nothing grand.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just like. There's, like, always, like, some day. This was just.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: This is Carl.
I guess that means that someone in Todd McFarlane's life is also named Carl.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: I would guess someone who changes his mind a lot maybe.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: Sounds like a pretty good slate of reading that we had there, Johnny.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it was good. It was fun. Yeah. I sat down, put on the universal monster channel, cracked these issues open yesterday.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. We're immediately taken back by the amount of words.
[00:06:30] Speaker A: We're immediately taken back.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: I was like, oh, my God. Words I don't like to read.
[00:06:35] Speaker B: I've been reading these on the train on the way in, so that way I don't have a crunch on Thursday night. And I'm like, ah, I forgot to read my spawn. And I just feel so weird being, like, dressed up professional businessman pulling out a bag and a very. Especially with the old ones. I've got the. They're all bagged and boarded and just pulling out my bagged and boarded and then it's just the most disgusting thing for people to see me read on the bus. Like, I could see some people just be like, why'd I pull it out, Spawn?
At least the only thing I'm pulling out is spawn. That's.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: That's good. One time, I was reading Spawn at an airport bar, and I got a compliment.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: So nice.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: They were like, oh, I used to love spawn. And I told about the podcast.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: I should have given him a sticker.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: Should have. Should have. I was. I was at an ice cream shop once, and a guy. A guy there was like, I was. I was wearing my violator spawn con shirt, and he was like, ah, the violator. And I was like, yeah. And I just completely spaced because I didn't have any stickers with me, so I didn't even bother mentioning the podcast.
That's okay.
[00:07:41] Speaker A: You can live your life without thinking about the podcast, David. It's okay.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Can I. I don't. I don't know if I'm physically capable.
I tried. I tried to keep it a secret at work just because, you know, you know, work life balance a little bit, but immediately because, like, hey, guys, guys, I got these stickers for this thing I'm doing here. Take it, take it, take it. Take stickers.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: Take a stickers.
Yeah, I mean, if I was reading this on the bus, I definitely. If I didn't know what spawned, definitely give me pause, because issue 15, the COVID is just like, let's jump into it. Skewer. Yeah, yeah, we're jumping in. We're talking about the COVID here. So. Yeah, like I said, november 1993, I was eagerly awaiting super Nintendo games and Jurassic park toys, I imagine. Actually, I don't know when I got my super Nintendo. I'm trying to think. It probably would have been right around then.
It was a present for my dad because my parents were divorced, so he wanted to make us love him.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: I can tell you, when I got my super Nintendo, Johnny never.
Exactly.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: It was the year after my parents got divorced, because my dad was like, hey, I'll get you super Nintendo.
[00:08:49] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: And it worked.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I I believe. I believe it, Johnny.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: It worked.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: It was a. Well, a well.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: I don't know what.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: I was gonna say there, but.
Sorry.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: It's funny because my dad now hates video games, but he bought me most of my video games.
I mean, he doesn't hate him. He just doesn't understand. Like, he's like, I don't get those video games, but, like, he bought me a super Nintendo. He bought me the Nintendo 64.
Oh, what are they doing? How do you hate video games? You're buying your kids all these good video games.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: Do you ever wonder if, Johnny. That maybe it's. There's some. There's some displacement going on, and it's not the video games that he hates.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: It's me.
Oh, my God. Oh, no. I gotta go back into. I gotta call my therapist.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: No, I'm. I'm sure. I'm sure your dad loves you just fine, Johnny.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: Yeah. He just doesn't love Mario.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Well, either that. Either that or he's. He's. He's jealous of the attention you give the video games and not him. And he's just. It might be that I could make beeps and boops.
[00:09:54] Speaker A: I could beep and boop and go.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: I could walk sideways and punch a guy.
I can pop off from. From the side of the screen and go toasty.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: My dad liked to play Mario golf.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Okay?
[00:10:11] Speaker A: That was about it.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: You're saying your dad likes golf?
[00:10:15] Speaker A: He liked defender. He liked defender. The old game defender and joust, if I remember correctly.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: Joust. I don't remember the gameplay of joust, but I remember the, like, trade dressing of the package being immaculate.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: It was like an ostrich on it. Yeah, no, you, like, fly around on this, like ostrich, and you try to, like, stab each other.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: That's how you play it most like a joust. Like the medieval spawn and violator have here.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Very nice.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: Yeah. The COVID we kind of talked about, but it's Todd McFarlane, obviously.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a great.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Very obviously.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: You can tell it's a great cover. It's in. In the history of spawn covers being excellent, like, metal album covers, this one probably takes the cake, because this one could be any range of metal album cover. It could be, like, just a regular old black metal cover. It could be a nerd metal cover. Power metal. It could be, like, a symphonic metal band.
All of them. All of them.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause he's got medieval spawns. Got the violator's head on a skewer.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah. It literally looks like a saxon album cover.
And I like how, you know, since his head has been decapitated, his bug eyes have, like, shorted out, and you could just see the sword going in through his eye holes.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: Like, in the back there. So dope.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Just trying to make it as gross as possible.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: Oh, man. Johnny, I don't know if you know this, but there's this man. His name is Todd McFarlane, and he's a pretty decent artist.
He draws. He draws some pretty neat things. And the armor on medieval spawn is just great. It's got, like, those slats and then the rivets. Oh, boy.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty badass.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: This is a great cover. This is a great cover for a great issue, Johnny, I'm immediately excited. Again, looking at this.
We can't forget to mention that the sword is exuding necroplasmic smoke. And then there's, like, this cool smoke effect filling in that lower left quadrant of the page.
Yes.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Like magical Bamfi smoke that swan tend to use really early on. A lot.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Also, he's got the. He's got his invisible oranges back there behind the. Behind the head. So he's.
He's got that order.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: Look at my power. I have violator's head like a cocktail weenie on a toothpick.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: He's just gonna. He's just gonna eat it off in one bite.
[00:12:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:56] Speaker B: He says, I finished my martini.
Time for my snack.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah, he could put that head in a big old martini glass.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: I can imagine that Malbolgia does that occasionally. He takes. He takes just a group of souls and puts their heads on little things, plucks them off. Yeah, he probably would.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Malbolgia would definitely be a dirty martini drinker.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: So I guess that means Malbolgia belli is canonically now a beer gut, huh? From all those martinis. He's had a tea mini martinis.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: A tea mini martinis.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Fun fact, swapping those syllables like that. It's called a spoonerism, so.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: Spoonerism.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Spoonerism.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: Okay. I didn't know that.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's named after. I think it's named after a guy, but, yeah, they're called spoonerisms. So that way, spoonerism, just in case the more you know, Johnny, the more you know.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: So I'm gonna crack this issue open. And we got our credits here.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
Some might have fine credits indeed.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Like I said, this issue is called myths part two with story and art by our man Todd McFarlane. Letters and editor, Tom Warczykowski.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: Still on it all the way to 350 color by Steve Olaf, Ruben Rood, and olioptics.
It's dedicated to Martin no Dell, who I forgot to look up.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: He. Johnny, he is the creator of the golden age Green Lantern.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: Oh, cool.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: So, yeah, the. He's the guy who decided that the power of will doesn't work on wood.
His power, it's willpower to create constructs, but it doesn't work on wood for a while.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: So he couldn't do anything with Wood.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: So he couldn't do anything with Wood.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: So you just, like, fighting with a pirate ship?
[00:14:56] Speaker B: Just like. Just like doctor who. His. His. His sonic screwdriver doesn't work on wood. The original. The original Green Lantern was able to be fended off by wood.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Okay. Wood and yellow.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: Huh? Wood and yellow. Yeah, I think yellow came later.
Yellow came later. Okay.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Which you gotta chase around the Green Lantern with, like, a wooden stick painted yellow.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: So a spawn at the end of issue 15 would be a very, very, very good villain for golden age Green Lantern, is what I'm saying.
He's. He's got, like, the. The series one action figure, uh, wood plank with a nail in it.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: Oh, right, the wood plank.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: He'd be the shadow of the Green Lantern.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah, he would.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: I don't know much about Green Lantern.
[00:15:43] Speaker B: It's. It's. It's a mythos, Johnny. Oh, boy. It is.
It's got, like, X Men levels of backstory and relationship flip flops. It's. It's insane.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: It's. It's some fun stuff if you like space beat em ups.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: I feel like there'll be a movie soon. There has to be, because they're restarting the DCU, and he's such a big part of it.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Are you just.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: Maybe it's just too weird to be on its own.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Are you forgetting that there was a movie?
[00:16:15] Speaker A: Yeah. It was Ryan Reynolds, right?
[00:16:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. Ryan Riddle, who played Sinestro. The guy who played Sinestro did better than he needed to do.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Mark Strong.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those things where it's. It's hard to condense it down into just a movie. Because it works better in the long form format of comics. I think they will always have trouble doing him and Hawkman. They did. They did. Reasonable. Getting Hawkman on the screen in Black Adam. But Hawkman's got baggage, so.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: Hawkman has baggage.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: He has baggage. He has, like, thousands of lives within him.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:16:55] Speaker B: So, yeah, Hawkman is very inscrutably complicated. But what's. What's not inscrutably complicated is our little clown friend Johnny the violin.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: Yep. He's not. He just likes to lie.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: He just loves talking to stuff in alleys.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: He likes talking to stuff in alleys. That's all he wants to do. If you're in an alley. The clown wants to talk.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: He's just walking down the street, and he sees an alley with something in it. He's like, hold on a second.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: I need to talk to you real quick.
[00:17:24] Speaker B: Let me tell you about our lord and savior myself. So, yeah, we start off as mentioned with this wall of text. Like, literally a wall of text, Johnny. It's right there on a wall.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: It's kind of recapping where we're at with the violator right now. He's lost his powers. Yeah, because he failed to get Spawn's goat.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: We get, like, the actual size of the violator, don't we? I'm pretty sure I read in this issue that he is three foot nine. But I can't remember where they put that down. But I do like how it refers to our rotund violator, the world class idiot.
Nothing's more dangerous than a powerful idiot, Johnny. He's a good foil for our spawns.
[00:18:15] Speaker A: Yes.
He's talking to Clint, Mark, and spaz, three citizens of the streets.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: Their passports just says streets.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: I'm on the streets, man.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Start off with some excellent, excellent Tom Orzakowski work here, Johnny.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: You heard me.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I completely flame broiled the little booger.
Such good dialogue writing. Or, like, lettering throughout.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: Just, like, so many different stuff to do for this. Cause he had, like, the scrolls, the violator dialogue, the spawn dialogue, the medieval spawn dialogue.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: But, like, just the different ways that Tom o accents different parts of what the clown is saying. And he does it in a slightly different way each time.
It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. It's impossible to not be able to read it exactly as the clown was saying it.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: No, it really does. The way the size of the words really, like, keeps you on pace with. And, like, gives you really good reading of the dialogue.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: How he, like, italicizes, like, the middle of a word. To put emphasis on it. It's real good.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
But he's telling these kids the story, as we did last issue, of where he fights smidevil spawn, and he's embellishing a bit. Or lying straight up smedievil mon.
Medieval mon. That's a smootherism.
But he.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: They aren't buying it. They.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: They're buying it. The easy happened was he. He burned it with fire breath, and he was gone.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: He has paid the money, and they're still not buying it. Yeah.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: He gave him, like, fucking, like, $20 each to watch this.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And then an extra five.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: That's nineties money too.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, man. You know how many comic books you could buy with that, Johnny?
[00:20:14] Speaker A: $20. In the nineties.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: In the nineties, yeah.
[00:20:18] Speaker A: You could buy ten issues of spawn.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. And then complain about it being too pricey. But then you could still buy ten issues of spawn today and be like, hell, yeah. This is, like, four issues of something else.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Yeah, seriously.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: But. But so these. These citizens of the streets are looking kind of bored and being, you know, they're. They're.
They're. They're not buying. They're not buying what the clown is selling. And he's like, but wait, there's more.
He's like, well, he wasn't. He wasn't the. I flame broiled him, but I still had the evil witch to deal with, and so.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Right. And this is confirmation that she is indeed the boyfriend, not actually the mother. And we knew that. But, like. Like you said, he's. He's calling her the witch mother just to, like, help his story along.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Make much sense if she was just some artistic maiden. Yeah, because she's calling her the evil.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: Witch who's gonna root against the artistic maiden. The bad guy, that's who.
Yeah, but we get. Oh, boy, Johnny. We get the longest jaw. Look at how long that thing is.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. You put a canoe in there.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: It's like when they make those ludicrously large sandwiches on the Internet, and they take, like, the four foot long french loaf, and they cut it open. It's like, the bottom of the four foot long french loaf. Yeah.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Nice big sandwich.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: He put a whole, like, party sub in that thing.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: He wouldn't even have to chew the party sub. It would just go.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: He's like, lay it in his mouth and swallow.
I saw a penguin that goes. I saw an Instagram reel about a penguin who goes to the fish market on his own.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: Oh, hell, yeah.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: Like, he's a pet penguin. He goes to the backpack and with money, and they give him a fish. And that sucker just ate that whole fucking fish straight down.
Big ass fish. This little ass penguin.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: It's like that dog that saw people buying snacks with money, and he picks up some leaves and was like, here, I would like to buy a snack.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't remember where it is, but, yeah, they have a pet penguin who goes to the fish market.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: Man, that's awesome. I would love to have a pet penguin. Those guys, those are cool. I got to meet a penguin at the Brookfield Zoo.
His name was. His name was Pedro. He was awesome.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: What was he? Was he nice? He let you touch him or.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He. So he mostly hung around, you know, the vet or the zoo employees, because, you know, they're the ones who knows them. But, like, he would, like, flittle and water underneath our seats and just be like.
And then as he passed, you would be like, ah, pat your back. And he'd be like.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: That'S funny.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: It was pretty cool.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: I've never been around a penguin that close.
Yeah, little Pedro the penguin at Brookfield Zoo.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: They've got opportunities to meet penguins.
Yeah. So the violators threatening lady. I don't even think we get a name for her.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: No, they never give her a name.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: And she's begging for her life. And she says, for the love of God.
And violator says, your God is my enemy, so beg all you want. I hope he's listening.
And then we get a, like, we pull back from his face being, like, right in front of her face. And as we pull back, we see that he's got to, like, hunch down and kind of, like, get on one knee to get on her level because he's so, so tall and spindly. He's so fleabyacky.
Fleabiacki. Sounds like a flavor of beef jerky, Johnny.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Yeah, give it some fleabiacki.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: Give me some of that fleebiacy.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: It says be, like, green and, like, pussy.
Gross and, like, covered in slime.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Sounds like something.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Then the violator, like, takes his nail, like, claws along medieval swans. Girlfriend's, like, cheek here.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And classic, classic kinda horror fashion there.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: Yes.
And he looks like he's gonna, like. He's, like, looking at the blood. He's like, oh, yeah, look at this. I'm cutting her up.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then the next thing we know, that finger is flying through the air san's hand.
But something was wrong. I couldn't quite put my finger on it. But this was all going down far too easily, Johnny.
And then, bam. We get into a two page spread.
Where it's in the foreground is the violator's hand, minus finger. And then just beyond it is John of York in his full, crispy, crispy York. Crispy of York glory. There. He's like, moldy, crispy of York.
How dare you touch my maiden. Oh, boy. Possessive mud.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: Problematic.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Uh huh.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: Let the maiden make up her own damn decision. Swan.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So he teleported out of his. His armor right before it got BBQ'd.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: It was like chillin in a tree or some shit.
[00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah, this is. This is his grand reveal and his. His full glory. The thing I don't. He's. He's like, holding on to the.
The blade of his sword and bleeding on it, and it's like, ah. What ah.
What are you doing there? What are you doing there? Medieval.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: You don't have to do that.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: No.
What do you like? I guess maybe he. Since we know that it is a necroplastic, necroplasmic ly forged sword. Jesus, say that five times fast. Maybe he's charging it. Like, it takes his necroplasm blood to.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Did he just, like, jerk off the sword before he gets it going?
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Could you imagine how terrifying it would be to see a fucking medieval knight just sitting there? Like.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: There'S a video game franchise called no more heroes, and it was on the Wii, and you have, like, a lightsaber, and to charge it, you had to shake the Wii.
It's an adult game. Like, it was supposed to be a joke, but, like, you had to sit there and go to charge your Wii vote or to charge your lightsaber Johnny.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: Imagine if they had made leisure suit Larry for the Wii. I'm pretty sure that's all the game would be.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: God, what is the. What is the title of the newest leisure shoot Larry game is like, what the fuck? What is it called?
[00:27:00] Speaker B: They're still making leisure suit Larry. Movies. Games. A leisure suit Larry movie.
Can you imagine? Wet dreams don't dry?
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Yes, those wet dreams don't dry. That's what it's called. And there's a sequel called Wet Dreams Dry twice.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
Oh, boy. Okay, let's look at, look. Let's look at all these box office busts.
Magna cum laude.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Passionate Patty does a little undercover work.
Oh, there's like a whole passionate patty miniseries.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: I feel like Legion Sullivan games were just for, like, your horny uncle.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah, they were like the cast offs from the Monkey island games. Like, you guys need to stop cutting up. Go. Go make this.
Go make this.
I've never, I've never played it. I only saw it in, like, the, the Sierra catalog.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: It was like, what is this?
[00:28:05] Speaker A: I ordered this year catalog.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: So weird. Can you imagine if, like, a single game developer nowadays put out a catalog every, every month? That would be wild.
[00:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that would be wild. Usually they make, like, one game every five years.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: Now, if that boy.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: Okay, we, Jared, made a lot of games.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: We gotta. We gotta get off leisure suit Larry. We're gonna find ourselves on the wrong side of the Internet, Johnny.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: We are. We get to find ourselves in the dark web.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: But John of York is, is saying to the violator, how dare you use. How dare you hide behind a woman or violate a woman, violator? And has your creator become such a coward? And the violator says he's your creator too.
And then the maiden is just like, what the fuck happened?
[00:28:56] Speaker A: She's like, my prince looks. My prince is like a fucking meatball.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And so there's just a massive fight between violator and medieval here. And, Johnny, a parallel with the next book. Violator picks up a tree from the ground and just bats. Bats medieval spawn with it.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it is a parallel.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: I guess that's just the thing tollfather likes to do.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: Dude, can you imagine how much strength it would take to fucking rip out a tree and swing it at somebody, though?
That's.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: It would take a lot.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: That's a strong boy. That's a strong boy. So, yeah, the violator and spawner fighting, fighting. And we get close ups of lady's eyes, and she's just, like, appalled at what she's seeing. There's the fight itself and the contestants themselves in the fight. She's just like, what?
What is this?
[00:30:01] Speaker A: Yeah, you just found out your boyfriend you thought was just a magical dude in spawn armor is all burnt up.
[00:30:07] Speaker B: Is all burnt up. And is, uh, you know, just showing no quarter to this beast.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: That shows, like, you know, in the medieval times. Yeah, you got to get married. You ain't get naked with your maiden before marriage.
[00:30:21] Speaker B: This is. This was before even the ankle was scandalous. This was like any.
Even the face was scandalous at this point.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Anything.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: Uh huh.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Then you get a really good, like, close up of a violator hand.
[00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Knocking the sword at a.
Knocking the sword out of spawn's hand.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: Medieval spawn's hand. He's got a gnarly mouth. It's like.
Yeah, the burnt. Or, like, the stretched flesh in the mouth is gross.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: It's very toxy.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: Yes, he does look very toxy.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: My prince, what have you become?
[00:31:05] Speaker B: And then, you know, they're fighting. They're fighting. And medieval spawns. Like, what kind of monster would eat the hearts of children? And then violator shows just what kind of a monster he is by saying they're not as good as adults. I mean, I just ate them. Cause they were there. And it's like. That makes it even worse, dude.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: Child's organs aren't nearly as ripe. Oh, boy.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:31:27] Speaker A: Gotta eat the adults. Yeah, that's the opposite with the vampires saying, yeah, not that they want to eat kids, but I just remember the movie on what we do in the shadows.
He was like. They were like, why are you so obsessed with virgins? He's like, I mean, if you're gonna have a sandwich, wouldn't you rather someone hadn't fucked at first?
[00:31:46] Speaker B: True, true, true.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: Which is funny.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Uh huh. And, you know, we get some of that violators xenophobia about earth people.
I serve the master and the darkness.
It'll be my pleasure to tell him that I, a native of hell, is far better qualified than some earthborn beginner.
Just like, he's a broken record, Johnny. He's just like, hell people.
[00:32:13] Speaker A: Hell people's is best house people's number ones.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: I bet. I bet that means his favorite mayonnaise is Hellman's.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: Yes. I bet it is.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: It's not Merrill, I never thought about that. You got miracle whip, like, from heaven, and you got Hellman's.
[00:32:30] Speaker B: But Hellman's is also known as best foods west of the Rockies.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: Oh, really?
[00:32:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: I didn't know that.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: It says so right on the label.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Oh, there you go.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: So. So violator will go to Mount Belgium, and it says, bring out the Hellmans and bring out the best.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Oh, I love advertising jingles. Johnny, they need to bring them back. This. This just using a song that was popular two to three years ago as your. Your advertising music is bullshit.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. I like it.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: Give me an original composition that sounds like every other original composition that that company has made and 14 other companies have made for the past 30 years, but, yeah, so. So violator blasts medieval spawn with some fire again. And while he's getting kookerized the second time, the.
The costume is wrapping up the violator. It's the cape, and the chains are tying him up a la the maiden to the tree there. Yeah. Pretty badass. There's this nice, big panel showing both of the victims, both of the captains.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: I like how the violin looks like he's naked and trying to hide his. He's like, oh, my.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Look at me.
Yeah, yeah. His cape and chains, they're alive. Oh, man, this.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: This is a lot to take in for this poor maiden, man.
[00:34:01] Speaker B: This little artist lady is gonna have some wild paintings to paint when she gets out of here.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: Yeah, she's got crispy medieval spawn. She's got a cloak attacking a demon.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess we skipped over that part accidentally, but medieval spawn was chastising violator for attacking an artist who creates joy and beauty in the world.
[00:34:26] Speaker A: Looks like Todd McFarlane's a little high on himself. These artists are so fucking great.
[00:34:30] Speaker B: I was about to say. You feel a little metatextualness going on there, Johnny?
[00:34:34] Speaker A: A little bit.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: Maybe the artist doth protest too much. Yeah. So medieval spawn here reveals about his necroplasmically forged sword and how he hates to have to use his power. But he knows that it will be good to use this power to send the violator back to hell. And he chops his head off.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: You got the spinal cord sticking out.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's real good. It's real fun.
There's green blood going everywhere, and it's got, like, those anime, anime lines showing that the head is, like, flying through the air.
[00:35:12] Speaker A: I love how, oh, my God, I just.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: I love how much, like, saliva is just shooting everywhere when the violator has his mouth open.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Is this his head? But for some reason, I was reading his h is head, and I was like, why does it say h is head?
[00:35:25] Speaker B: H is head.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: His head.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: This is, this is a. This is gonna be repurposed into the abcs of spawn, Johnny.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I was like, are they doing abcs here? H is head.
A is Albert.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: B is Batman.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: He's blank.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: C. C is cat in the alley that violator talks to.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: D is disruptor.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: E is.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: We could do the whole thing.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Geez, I don't know. I don't know. An e? Fuck.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: An e for spawn. Yeah, I don't know.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: If you could think of something in the spawns universe that starts with e, please email
[email protected].
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Yeah, if you think of an e, if you think of an e character.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: I guess we should probably move on from that now. Yeah.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: I was like, oh, it's gonna be really. We're gonna do the whole Alphabet. Then we get the e and we're stuck.
[00:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah, well, all of them. Everything starts with a v, Johnny. That's the problem.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: It's true. Most characters do six of them at least.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: And then, so, you know, decapitated violator, medieval spawn there slowly powering down lady. Lady is freaking the fuck out. Oh, boy, Johnny.
Yeah, I don't blame her. I do not blame her at all. And she. So he cuts her coats, her tie, cuts her ties, and she just runs away and is like, ah, no, please help this.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: Oh, she's got some crazy shoulder pads. I think we mentioned it last time.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: Oh, those are some crazy shoulder pads. Those look like pillows. Like, for, if you're just sitting there and you get bored, you can just go, cashew. Cashew.
And then medieval sponsor said, who's like, don't leave me, I suppose.
I beg you. And then he cries. And then another little bit of metatextualism, Johnny. His tears fall on the border of the panel and start dripping down to everything else.
Excellent. I loved that little bit so much.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a cool panel with the tears. And then like the scroll of the dragon.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So. And this is the violator saying that this is the. This is where dragon lore comes from. Here. Look at that. And that's a cool ass dragon, Johnny.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of like the violator, but not.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's like, I don't know why they colored me green, but, hey, that's showbiz.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: That's showbiz, baby.
[00:37:56] Speaker B: And then actually, you know, the violator says something true here. Cause he says that his boss was pleased with his work. And Mel Bol's just like, you know, you did a good job. You proved to me that this spawn is fucking good. You removed the one thing that keeps him from. From fully committing to the spawn. And, you know, it's a nice little Malbolge, you hear with his, with his hair and his jaw. And the violator in a little bitty green bubble. And he's like, it's a great. It's a great page.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: He's got his. He's got his goatee going on.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's so good.
And then we cut back to the alley, and the violator's just like, well, there you have it, boys.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: They're already walking away.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: And is like, after all the cash I laid out, why, I oughta.
And then he gets the classic hit in the face with a. With a newspaper.
[00:38:54] Speaker A: Oh, yes. The classic.
[00:38:56] Speaker B: Classic.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: I wish that would happen to me. I get hit in the face of the newspaper to find out something like really dramatic, shattering. Yeah. Oh, what?
[00:39:04] Speaker B: Absolutely. And he's reading a news story that, that it then references for details of the violator's visit to Tony Twist's office. See the violator's own mini series coming in 1994. So nice, nice, nice. We already. We just read that we already know what he's upset about. So I like.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: We know how that meeting ends with him getting thrown into the damn water.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: I like how this one headline in the New York Times says, petey kills Toddy. Ouch. And there's. That's a picture of Peter David, which is obviously a reference to that advertisement for a conversation between Peter David and Todd McFarlane. So I guess the consensus is that Peter David won that debate.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: That's why it's in the newspaper, which.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: Is why it's in the newspaper.
And so we. We focus in on Albert Simmons sleeping on some garbage, and he gets. He gets, you know, kicked away from his nice little garbage patch by, like, beefy Jim downing is the best way to describe this man. He's. He's protecting the garbage can of a restaurant from the unhomen.
[00:40:23] Speaker A: Yeah, he's, like, protecting the back alley. It's like, what are you doing, dude?
[00:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah, like, what the hell?
I don't get it. I don't get it.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: Also, like, spawns get up in this. He's got, like, a shirt and pants on.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's actually, Johnny, it looks very much like the shirt and pants that Doctor Alan Grant wears in Jurassic park, except for Grant had khakis instead of green pants, but, yes.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: So basically, they're worth. Yes. They're both blue shirts. Good call, David.
[00:40:55] Speaker B: Hey, I'm looking for. I see connections everywhere, Johnny. It's all connected.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: I was gonna say ash. Cause it's all, like, ripped up.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And I. But ash. Ash has darker, darker pants than Alan Grant does.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: It's true.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: And is also significantly more ripped than Alan Grant.
Sure.
[00:41:16] Speaker A: Alan Grant's got mind muscles, though.
[00:41:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
He's got. He's got. He's got the muscles that count, Johnny. Oh, boy.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: He's got the muscles up here, not the muscles here.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: Easy. Easy to get lost in those eyes, but, yeah, so. So Al just, like, lets himself get beat up until he just has enough, and it's like, ah, I'm gonna punch you.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: He also grows a nose in between the two pages. They have a trouble determining the nose.
[00:41:44] Speaker B: This nose continuity.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: Yeah, well, like, it's, like, on the previous page, it's all smooth.
[00:41:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they don't show it.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: For a lot of it. It's like he. Like, he doesn't know what to do. So he hides it a lot of time.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: I wonder if, like, after a couple of versions, they.
He's like, but I need the nose. So that way, you know that this is a face. The face. And not just, eh. So I won. I don't know. Maybe we could ask the Todd father one of these days. Yeah.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: What's the deal with Swansea?
[00:42:15] Speaker B: What's the deal with Spawn's nose?
[00:42:18] Speaker A: Because, John New York definitely doesn't have one.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he definitely doesn't.
I like how Spawn refers to this bouncer guy as tubby, which, yeah, it's.
[00:42:27] Speaker A: Like, this guy's not tubby at all.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: If he's tubby, there's no hope for us, Johnny.
[00:42:32] Speaker A: Oh, God.
Yeah, this guy's tubby. He's, like, ripped.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: So Spawn gets his piece of wood with a nail in it. And, you know, threatens this guy and has him, you know, is like, I need you to make like a tree. Get out of here.
And now he's. He's talking about how he needs to send out a message that this is Spawn's territory. He's marking his turf, Johnny. He's gonna go over to the edge of the aisle, and he's just gonna pee on every corner. So everybody knows that it's him.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: I like, he took off all his clothes too.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:11] Speaker A: He's like, this is my alley. I'm gonna take off all my fucking clothes.
[00:43:14] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's like, this is my place. I don't have to wear pants here.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't have to wear pants.
So I wonder if this came before the action figure. That's why he has the board.
[00:43:23] Speaker B: I don't know.
I mean, it certainly seems. Seems likely that that's why they had the board action figure, because they could be like, oh, yeah. It's it's it's here.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: It's in the comics. It's got a board.
[00:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
And then we end on, I'd call it an epilogue, even though it doesn't say epilogue of just basically an epilogue. A late night, a late night phone call to Terry Fitzgerald from the goons.
And they're, they're, you know, revealing that they have surveillance on him and Wanda and sai.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they kind of play their hand pretty heavy. It's like, you guys could have kept this little secret or something.
But they show their hand.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: I mean, and then we get some classic Todd father. Exact times, it'll be nearly 20 minutes before Terry moves, another 40 before he stops sweating.
[00:44:12] Speaker A: Next issue, Grant Morrison and Greg Capullo.
[00:44:15] Speaker B: As somebody who sweats pretty profusely for any manner of reasons. Johnny, I wish that I could stop sweating after 40 minutes, but it just keeps coming. It don't stop.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: Imagine you got a phone call like that. You never stop.
[00:44:34] Speaker B: Oh, boy. No. Every time the phone rang after that, I'd be like, ah, please don't.
But, yeah, next issue, Grant Morrison and Greg Capullo, as you said, very excited for those episodes, issues, things.
I remember them being a hoot.
[00:44:52] Speaker A: Yes. Is it the anti spawn stuff?
[00:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the anti spawn stuff.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I thought.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it is fun.
[00:44:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: Well, we'll finally get to open that action figure.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Sure will. Very excited for it. Then we got a blah blah blah.
[00:45:08] Speaker A: Blah blah blah ten.
[00:45:11] Speaker B: It's the announcement of spawn Batman crossover. And that, for those of you who.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: Don'T know, blah blah blah is the name of the, like, oh, yeah. Image news.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: Image news. Yeah. He refers to it as an e ticket ride, which, you know, isn't something they do anymore. But at Disneyland, there used to be tiers of rides where you could get, you know, so many tickets for each tier, and e's were the, the top ones, so.
[00:45:40] Speaker A: Oh, really?
[00:45:40] Speaker B: Yeah, but now, now it's just, you know, you don't have to buy tickets individually, so it's, it's, it's a, it's old vernacular.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: Yeah, use the fastpass.
[00:45:55] Speaker B: Yeah, you can use, you can use the fastpass to hold your spot in line, but you don't have to buy individual tickets. You just buy admission to the, the parks, and all of the rides are free within that admission.
[00:46:04] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but it used to be you paid for admission and then you bought so many tickets, and then you got to trade those tickets in for rides.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't realize that. Okay. Yeah, it must have changed at some point in the nineties, huh?
I'm assuming so sometime between 93 and.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: Now, sometime I'm sure somebody out there is probably furiously being like, it was this year.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: This was the year they got rid of the tickets at Disney World.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: If you, if you know, if you want to send us knowledge about Disneyland and Disney world items, please, please email
[email protected] and tell us why the haunted mansion is the best ride ever. And if you disagree with that, I'm sorry, you're wrong.
[00:46:51] Speaker A: Hey, that's just the facts. You're just laying out facts.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: We can't do anything but tell you what is true.
We're not here for the spin. We're the CNN lady. We're not brock the shack.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: Yeah, the Crn lady crn.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Ah. We had to take a bounce back and forth.
[00:47:10] Speaker A: It has, it could be CNN.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
Then we get some really cool, really cool posters. I like this, this purple spawn versus violator one. It's super great. The spawn jumping out of a window is pretty cool too. And then we come to the spawning grounds. Johnny.
[00:47:30] Speaker A: Oh, boy. The old school spawning grounds where people just yell at Todd McFarlane with giant letters.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. Well, this, uh, this first one is, is positive. The, the first one is a dude being like, yeah. I was like, eh, what? Eh, whatever, spawn. Eh, whatever. But then my little brother was like, you gotta read this. And I am now hooked. So, um, that's fun. That's fun about a guy who, you know, he didn't know who Frank Miller, Neil Gaiman, or at all. He doesn't mention Alan Moore by name, so I wonder if that means he knew Alan Moore beforehand. But, you know, yeah, those issues introduced this guy to all, to all those other comics that he didn't know about. That's really cool.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Yes. I mean, that's just awesome to be like, you read Spawn, heard about Frank Miller, went into your comic shop, and they just hand you dark knight and, yeah.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: And Batman year one.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: That'd be pretty cool.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, you know, he's talking about how he, he heard a story of a kid that was sitting with him at one of the signing tables that, that apparently some people were mistreating. And Todd was like, hey, kid, don't have to worry about them yelling at you for anything. You're gonna sit with me while we sign this stuff?
That would be awesome.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: That's pretty cool.
[00:48:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: So these letters are mostly positive.
[00:48:56] Speaker B: I do like how he says he doesn't give a shit if he pisses off people that he works with, but he definitely doesn't want to piss off the fans because he's like, that's my livelihood. Why would I be mean to the people who buy my work? That doesn't make any sense. And, you know, among other things, the Todd father is a businessman, and, you know, he knows where his money's coming from.
[00:49:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:49:21] Speaker B: It's, it's not from the people who works with. It's from the people who buy his books.
[00:49:27] Speaker A: Like this. The second gentleman here in the second letter that's buying the book is a evangelical Christian.
[00:49:33] Speaker B: Oh, geez.
[00:49:34] Speaker A: Which seems like a kind of a contradictory thing to be a spawn fan.
[00:49:39] Speaker B: Well, I don't know, John.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: There's that scholar that you know, there's.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: There's Dan McClellan, the biblical scholar, who likes to.
He makes videos on Instagram about, you know, dispelling, you know, common misinterpretations of things or common, you know, flawed arguments that people have, that they use when they talk about the Bible. And he's like, this is. Here's the facts. He's. He's a big, here's the facts guy. And he, like, 30% of the time is wearing a spawn shirt. And I'm like, this guy. This guy gets it. This guy gets it.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: This guy is basically, like, confused about how he's just like, why didn't you follow the rules of my religion topic, Robin, to make this character, don't, you know, you have to accept Jesus in your life? And, like, he would, like, it's very.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: There's lots of finger waving, but also, like, I could work with you, but also, how dare you? But we.
It's. It's a letter. And then, you know, the toddfather we grew up.
[00:50:52] Speaker A: I mean, we grew up in the Atlanta via evangelicals, David.
[00:50:55] Speaker B: So this. I'm pretty sure I have heard this entire letter spoken by numerous people about basically every fucking thing that anybody wants to enjoy multiple times in my life. So I'm not gonna lie. I sighed and rolled my eyes so many times during this because it's just like, how many times have I heard this exact same argument?
[00:51:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
And people, you believe whatever you want, but, like, just don't try to push other people. And also, like, realize that other people aren't gonna believe what you believe.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: And don't get.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: Don't be surprised by that. They won't be satisfied until you renounce.
Renounce your understanding of everything and just say, okay, yeah, you're right. I'm gonna do everything you want me to do.
That's just the way it is.
The toddfather's answer is very magnanimous. Um, and I do believe Johnny, we should probably scan this and sit at the ready on Reddit when people are like, what's the Todd? Father's religion or religious views? We should probably just, bam, there. He says it. Oh, yeah.
[00:52:10] Speaker A: People ask that all the time.
[00:52:11] Speaker B: All the time.
[00:52:14] Speaker A: All right, well, now we have the answer.
[00:52:15] Speaker B: Now we have the answer. It also has that if I could do that and the whole world would agree with every one of my assertions, then my name would be God and not Todd.
It gets a lot of mileage out of that.
Yeah.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: Okay. He says that all the time.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: Well, I mean, it's a good distinction to make, Johnny, because he is Todd, not God.
[00:52:37] Speaker A: He's not God. He's Todd. I missed that because I remember saying that.
[00:52:41] Speaker B: But then somebody's apparently used to spell. They used to sell spawn at Walmart. And that's wild. That's wild.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: That's why they wouldn't do that. Walmart, like, censors everything. I'm surprised they did.
[00:52:54] Speaker B: You can buy the. The compendiums from walmart.com. But. But, yeah, like, if you had to go to Walmart to buy a. To buy a CD in the nineties, you. Yeah, you were desperate and couldn't find it anywhere else because you knew it was going to be the censored version.
[00:53:12] Speaker A: Yep. And the.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: That just means Hastings didn't have it there.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: Would they rename movies all the time or, like, make them have different titles? If they have, like. Like, there's a recent shutter movie called Satanic Panic. I think they're just called panic at Walmart.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: Oh, man. But what.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: And then I know that they, like, they made him change the title of Zack and Mary make a porno, which is called Zach and Mary.
[00:53:37] Speaker B: Geez.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: But they won't sell them. And you have to change it because you have to be able to sell Walmart so much money.
[00:53:42] Speaker B: Yeah, but they do have that bitchin, like, $5 DVD bin that's always chaotic.
But it's like. It's like a, like a friggin treasure hunt. And it's just like this was in here.
[00:53:55] Speaker A: Fuck yeah, I'm getting that.
[00:53:58] Speaker B: Man.
My dad couldn't pass that bin without buying at least one.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, my dad loved that.
[00:54:06] Speaker B: That's where he got all his westerns.
[00:54:08] Speaker A: This is where dad got a bunch of, like, weird Michael Keaton comedies from the eighties.
[00:54:13] Speaker B: That's where I found Jim Carrey's first film.
It's called Copper Mountain, and it's like 54 minutes long. And it's literally an advertisement for the resort Copper Mountain in Colorado. And half of it is just.
Half of it is just like a stationary camera view of a local band playing at an open mic night at one of the bars.
And then the other half of it is just Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey ing around.
[00:54:44] Speaker A: And they released it as one of those cheap DVD's.
[00:54:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's hilarious.
It's only like 54 minutes long, but it feels like it takes a week.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: It's not a full feature that it can't be nominated for oscars and shit.
[00:55:00] Speaker B: No, no. It came out in like, 1983, too.
It's incredible. It's an incredible artifact.
[00:55:08] Speaker A: Copper Mountain. Okay.
[00:55:10] Speaker B: I never knew then, Johnny, another thematic tie in here. This last letter we got. Could you imagine if instead of video games, your dad had tried to bribe you and your brother with spawn? Oh, yeah.
[00:55:26] Speaker A: This is thematic. It's about a divorce. Maybe that's why I was thinking about that.
[00:55:29] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: Is this my dad?
[00:55:32] Speaker B: Are you Kurt Jacobson from Anchorage, Alaska?
[00:55:35] Speaker A: My two children and myself. I mean, the nineties were popular. Time to get divorced. I'll tell you what.
[00:55:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:41] Speaker A: Eighties and nineties.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: I mean, it happens. It happens.
[00:55:46] Speaker A: Yeah. But you could, like, if you're a dad, you could, like, go listen to Jimmy Buffett on a boat and just be, like, an eighties dad and listen to, like, Phil Collins.
[00:55:55] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Yeah. Most of. Most of my friends.
Most of my friends had divorced parents. I never. I never really thought anything of it. It was just like, wait, which. Which house are we going today? We go to your mom's house or your dad's house.
[00:56:10] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I know. It's just. It's, um.
[00:56:12] Speaker B: They were usually only, like, three blocks away, but, you know, you had to know which one you were going to or else you'd show up at the wrong one and be like, is it. Isn't. Isn't Jeff here? No. Oh, okay. Okay. I'll go to the other one.
Condolences to anybody who. Who is going through anything.
[00:56:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:32] Speaker B: We don't want to make light of the situation, but, you know, it's. It's part of life. It's one of those sad things that we got to deal with, you know?
[00:56:41] Speaker A: It is.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: But. But I think. I think you turned out pretty, pretty swell, Johnny.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: Oh, thank you.
I try.
[00:56:51] Speaker B: I like how there's a little note from the, from Todd here.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: It's like, stop writing nice letters.
[00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, please write something genuine and maybe, like, a little nasty or a little controversial. So I wonder if this is why he doesn't read the comments, Johnny, because he's just like, oh, boy, I've read so many of these letters.
[00:57:10] Speaker A: He'll print almost anything as long as it's got an opinion.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
Then we got some image fan art. We got some. There's some great fan art in this one, too.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: I like that one. That's like spawn next to the moon.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: That's very good. It's a good blend of styles, too.
Lots of image characters that, I don't know who they are. Yes.
[00:57:30] Speaker A: Tons of image characters who have no idea who they are.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: There's a wildcats ensemble, though, with a short boss I like how short, boss. So short that the lady who's standing next to him is on her knees, but she's still taller than him.
[00:57:45] Speaker A: I believe his name's Marlo.
[00:57:47] Speaker B: Marlo. Okay, wait, isn't Marlo the one that's the little kid that, like, hulks out?
[00:57:54] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: Who's that one?
[00:57:56] Speaker A: I don't remember. I don't remember.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Wildcats is fun, but I can't remember their ding ding names. I have a hard time with names as it is, and for some reason, their names just, like, skip over my brain.
[00:58:07] Speaker A: Spartan, grifter, Ladytron.
[00:58:12] Speaker B: Some.
[00:58:13] Speaker A: No, Marlowe's definitely the boss.
[00:58:15] Speaker B: Mall.
Who, as he gets bigger, gets dumber.
Who's the rip claw? Is that the dude with the. Is it Rip Claw or zip claw in another.
[00:58:26] Speaker A: I don't know. Rip Claw? I'm not sure.
[00:58:29] Speaker B: I don't know. We're gonna have to. We're gonna have to do a spin off podcast where we read all the Wildcats jokes.
[00:58:36] Speaker A: They've been around a while, and they've jumped around, so.
[00:58:39] Speaker B: Yeah. There's advertisement for what all the spawn teams have won at the Wizard Fan awards in 1993, so it's pretty cool.
[00:58:50] Speaker A: They won a bunch.
[00:58:51] Speaker B: We won a bunch. Favorite letter. Tom O. Hell yeah.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: Favorite ongoing title.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: There's advertisement for profit.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: Did this. Favorite single story. Spawn ten.
Wait, wait, what? Another Dave Sim one?
[00:59:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. Yeah. Not that. Not the best of them, but, you know, I would best.
Well, it's. It's probably.
[00:59:19] Speaker A: It's the most I can see at the time.
[00:59:20] Speaker B: Why?
[00:59:20] Speaker A: It's, like, revolutionary. Everyone's, like, obsessed with it. I think we said that probably on the episode. I can see at the time, but, like, nowadays it just comes off as a little.
[00:59:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:59:31] Speaker B: Yeah, a little.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: He's like, hey, you're rich. You can go watch a hockey game.
[00:59:34] Speaker B: Who gives a shit?
[00:59:35] Speaker A: It's like, what?
[00:59:36] Speaker B: Yeah, the. The not ending that it has.
[00:59:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And they all walk off together.
[00:59:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Profit. Advertisement. Advertisement for Miller McFarlane, Spawn Batman, coming March 94, and Johnny, the best fucking advertisement we have seen this entire time.
[00:59:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. This is awesome. I couldn't wait to get to it. Spawn spogs, the hottest collectible of 1993, baby. Spawn spogs?
[01:00:06] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Fucking pogs.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: Pogs. And if you don't know pogs, if you're a younger listener, yeah.
[01:00:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I've actually had.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: I feel like ralsa Speedus doesn't know about fucking pop pogs.
[01:00:19] Speaker B: I have had.
[01:00:20] Speaker A: He's younger.
[01:00:20] Speaker B: I have had to explain pogs to all of my technicians at work. Me too.
[01:00:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:27] Speaker B: They're like, what?
And you do what with them? Well, you just throw shit at them. And then what? Well, if they flip over, you get to keep them. It's kind of like Jack's, only less skill involved.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: You slam it, man.
[01:00:43] Speaker B: Pogs were.
Pogs were the shit. And, like, you had the, like, some, some people had, like, the actual. The actual rollout. Slammer. Slammer mats.
I just carried around an extra mouse pad because my dad was an it guy and had just, like, stacks of mouse pads sitting around. So I was like, I would use this as my slammer mat.
[01:01:04] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[01:01:06] Speaker B: Oh, man. Yeah.
[01:01:07] Speaker A: So pogs are melt caps is what they're called, but they're. They're basically milk caps that were from the milk in Hawaii or I think somewhere is where they started.
[01:01:17] Speaker B: I think. I think it used to be a lot of the dairy because it's for the reusable milk bottles. They would have a little cardboard, a little round cardboard seal, and then they would wax around it, and that's how those bottles were closed. And then, you know, if you wanted a toy to play with back in the day, you know, like the frisbee used to be a pie plate, they would take the little cardboard seals after the milk was done, and they would basically play jacks with those. And that's where pogs came from.
[01:01:50] Speaker A: And they started printing them and putting.
[01:01:51] Speaker B: Stuff on, and then they started making them actual collectibles. So they were the, they were the Pokemon cards before Pokemon cards. Like, like, they were getting banned from schools, and kids were getting in trouble for stealing each other's. And there were fights and. Oh, boy.
[01:02:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I remember them being pogs. Big deal.
[01:02:11] Speaker B: Big damn deal.
A big damn deal.
Metal pogs. I want to get some of these spogs, Johnny.
[01:02:20] Speaker A: I would love to see some spogs.
[01:02:22] Speaker B: They got them. They got them on eBay.
[01:02:25] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:02:27] Speaker B: Spogs. And the back has a wizard advertisement, which is a whole bunch of automatopoeias. And it says, we speak the language, which.
Hilarious. I love this ad.
[01:02:43] Speaker A: Oh, it's got all the comic book sayings.
[01:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's spawn 15, Johnny.
[01:02:51] Speaker A: That's spawn 15. Sorry, I'm going to deep dive on spogs here.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: Don't do it, Johnny. Don't do it. We've still got another episode or another issue to do.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: No, I'm just looking at. Oh, they got Byron TM. They got. They got the CRM lady.
They got the boss. They got Cyan. Oh, my God. This is awesome.
[01:03:10] Speaker B: Oh, boy. As. As much as I just liked issue eleven, I fucking.
I think about Byron TM every other day a lot.
[01:03:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I think about it a lot, too. I didn't hate that issue. It was just a little, like, that's.
[01:03:26] Speaker B: That kind of nonsense is bury up my alley. I wish I had liked the. The issue better.
[01:03:30] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I like this issue a lot. I'll say that.
[01:03:34] Speaker B: Me too. Me too. Issue 15.
[01:03:44] Speaker A: It's time to talk, Carl, baby. Yeah, it's time to talk about Carl. Forget ready?
[01:03:53] Speaker B: Forget talking turkey. We're. We're chatting, Carl.
[01:03:57] Speaker A: We're caulking. We're calling. Carl call.
We're crowing about Carl.
[01:04:06] Speaker B: Crow.
Oh, man.
[01:04:09] Speaker A: So next up with Carl here, we got issue 27 of Gunslinger.
[01:04:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
[01:04:17] Speaker A: It's hard to believe that we're almost. We're past 80 episodes. It's also hard to believe that we've covered 27 issues of Gunslinger on this. This show.
[01:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah, it's.
[01:04:25] Speaker A: It's hard to remember such a fresh comic to me.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. But it's, like, almost three years old.
[01:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. It's still good. It's still fun. I'm loving it, as they say.
[01:04:38] Speaker A: Oh, the new one was cool. The new one was great.
[01:04:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So. So breaking the magic again. This. This week is the first two issues to come out. After spawn 350, it was king spawn 30 and Gunslinger 29. And good. Jumping on points. If you've made it this far without reading a single spawn because you were waiting for a good jump on en point, I mean, it seems pretty good. Just dive right in. Just dive right in. The water is clear. You can see there's no obstructions. Just boo. Just boo.
[01:05:12] Speaker A: Carlo Barberi.
[01:05:13] Speaker B: Carlo Barberi is very good. Oh, he makes. He makes Javi such a beefy boy.
[01:05:18] Speaker A: Oh, sorry, Uncle Spawn. Yeah, yeah, he makes it so beefy.
[01:05:21] Speaker B: Yeah, so beefy.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: No, it's a really cool issue. I liked it. I'm excited to see what happens with. With Javi and his new friend.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
Taylor's been replaced.
[01:05:32] Speaker A: Taylor's been replaced.
[01:05:34] Speaker B: It's gonna be. It's gonna be a fun bunny cop. I can't wait for. There's definitely gonna be an I'm too old for this shit, isn't there?
[01:05:41] Speaker A: I feel like it's like Obi Wan says to hello in episode one was like, why do I sense you picked up another pathetic life form?
[01:05:55] Speaker B: He's like me who just keeps bringing home defective dogs.
[01:06:00] Speaker A: Yeah, he brought home. Jar Jar Binks and Anakin Skywalker.
[01:06:03] Speaker B: So. Jar Jar Binks. Oh, man. I can't stop thinking about whis. Are going home being, like, the most inappropriate thing to fucking say at that moment. Yeah.
[01:06:14] Speaker A: You're going home to fight a war, dude.
[01:06:18] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: Logan's already getting excited about episode two. Episode for Star Wars Day. Yeah, we were talking about it yesterday.
[01:06:27] Speaker B: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a good time. If you don't like spawn but you like Star wars, come listen to us compare spawn and Star wars on our annual Star wars episode.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:06:36] Speaker B: Dropping Star Wars Day.
[01:06:39] Speaker A: I think they definitely make fun of Star wars around the issues of 1999, like, whenever the episode one's coming out.
[01:06:45] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, ProB.
[01:06:46] Speaker A: They definitely make fun of the merchandising and stuff.
[01:06:48] Speaker B: I would be surprised if they didn't. Yeah, I definitely haven't gotten that far, but, I mean, it's.
It's. It would have been low hanging fruit at the time, but it would have also been fruit that if you didn't touch, you were an idiot.
[01:07:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. That shit was fucking everywhere.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: It was. It was an absolute phenomenon. It was, uh, fair to say that it revived cinema, Johnny, for at least a decade.
[01:07:16] Speaker A: It brought about the. I mean, it was definitely the thing that brought about those, like, stadium seat houses and remember how revolution.
[01:07:27] Speaker B: Remember how shitty movie theaters used to be? I know. Oh, boy.
I've worked at one of them. Yeah.
[01:07:34] Speaker A: There's someone tall sitting in front of you. You can't see anything.
[01:07:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And they had. They, like, just packed the room full of chairs. So, like, there was a row that was three inches away from the fucking square.
[01:07:46] Speaker A: Yeah, there's just that one row. You're just like, what the hell?
[01:07:48] Speaker B: That's. That's how I saw the midnight showing of episode three, Rise of the Sith. Johnny.
[01:07:54] Speaker A: Revenge of the third.
[01:07:55] Speaker B: Revenge. Revenge of the third.
[01:07:58] Speaker A: Revenge of the third.
[01:08:01] Speaker B: But enough about Star wars. We're talking of 27, Johnny.
[01:08:05] Speaker A: Yes, we are.
[01:08:06] Speaker B: And it's a very. It's a very. It looks like a very galaxy's edge setting here for this cover that. I have this cover a by Sabatini. Right.
[01:08:17] Speaker A: It does.
[01:08:17] Speaker B: It looks like that rundown western vibe that is very, very the smugglers area of Star wars land.
But it.
[01:08:27] Speaker A: Yes, it's.
Batuu is the name of the planet Batuu.
[01:08:31] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:08:33] Speaker A: But when you go to Galaxy's edge.
[01:08:34] Speaker B: It'S got Javi having, like, the wind is whipping around his. His jacket, and it's, like, revealing his bandoliers. And his rifle on his. Or his revolver on his hip, and he's like, swinging his lever action rifle around and he's going to shoot somebody and it's going to be great. Look at this.
[01:09:00] Speaker A: It's epic, mate.
[01:09:03] Speaker B: Epic. What cover you got, Johnny? I just said I've got the. The COVID a by Sabatini.
[01:09:09] Speaker A: I got the COVID b by Toledano.
[01:09:12] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:09:13] Speaker A: And it's.
There it is. Gunslinger carrying a coffin, dragging it through the desert, his coats billowing.
[01:09:22] Speaker B: That's very. That's very.
That's very. The box from wraiths of the broken land.
[01:09:32] Speaker A: Yes. Where they're carrying around the box that.
[01:09:34] Speaker B: They occasionally have to drain.
[01:09:37] Speaker A: They have to drain and pour food down into.
[01:09:39] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
It's a fucked up book. It's a fucked up book, Johnny.
[01:09:46] Speaker A: It is a fucked up book.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: Fucked up book.
But, yeah, so shall we. Shall we crack into this? So we crack into this fucked up book, Johnny.
[01:09:54] Speaker A: Let's crack it open.
[01:09:55] Speaker B: We got the credits here. Script plot by our man Todd McFarlane. Art by Dexter soy. This is his 4th, 3rd outing. Second or 3rd? 2nd or third.
Colors by Ivan Nunez, lettering by Tom O. The man we done covered the covers. Creative director is Tom McFarlane, and editor in chief is Thomas Healy.
And indeed, previously in Gunslinger. Gunslinger exacts his revenge on a foe from the past, meanwhile, getting hunted from someone in the future. So, uh, Johnny, he's a man at a time who's getting it from both directions. The past and the future.
[01:10:35] Speaker A: He's just getting. He's getting time crimed.
[01:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So for. For Javi, the present is not a gift.
[01:10:44] Speaker A: No. The present is a scary place to be.
[01:10:48] Speaker B: Yeah. It's kind of terrible for him.
[01:10:50] Speaker A: It's dangerous. So this picks up exactly where that last cliffhanger left off on the last issue, where he's blown off the motorcycle and someone says, get up, cowboy. You and I got unfinished business. Yeah, that was it.
[01:11:01] Speaker B: Yeah. But now, uh, now we get to see it from the other way. So we get to see who's a calling him out, and it's this shadowy figure in, like, cyberpunk cowboy vibes with a literal cannon.
[01:11:16] Speaker A: A hand cannon. Yeah.
[01:11:19] Speaker B: And he says, it's been quite some time since we spoke last.
And it says, for one of them, it's been over 160 years.
[01:11:26] Speaker A: And then he just kicks away his motorcycle.
[01:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah, well, we need this piece of junk.
And then Javi's like, do I know you?
[01:11:35] Speaker A: And he looks at me, and he goes, Carl.
[01:11:38] Speaker B: Carl.
It's like the one dude from Groundhog's day. The guy who notices him on the street.
[01:11:47] Speaker A: Oh, Ned Ryerson.
[01:11:49] Speaker B: Ned.
[01:11:49] Speaker A: Phil.
Bill. Not Phil Collins.
[01:11:54] Speaker B: Phil Collins.
[01:11:59] Speaker A: Ned Ryerson.
[01:12:02] Speaker B: I love that guy. I forget the actor's name, but I love everything he's in. He's a good. He's a good actor.
[01:12:07] Speaker A: He's always good.
[01:12:08] Speaker B: He's a good actor.
He's one of the masters of whip. Bald early. So he hasn't aged since, like, the late eighties, right?
[01:12:17] Speaker A: He's really the same. It's a Patrick much like Carl hasn't aged for a long time on this issue.
[01:12:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So I like how he's got his little cigar that he's chomping on.
And Javi is like, was that you who shot me off my motorcycle?
Like, man standing there threatening him with a smoking cannon.
Who else? Who else have he also.
[01:12:45] Speaker A: I like music. Yeah, it was. I didn't recognize you at first. That means he just shot. He's just shooting random people off of motorcycles.
[01:12:53] Speaker B: But he's, he's a bench, so he hands him. He hands him back his, his gun that he dropped.
[01:12:58] Speaker A: So that is good.
[01:13:01] Speaker B: And it's like I didn't recognize you because I've never seen you on anything but a horse.
And, you know, Javi's just like, why are you. Why are you here? Carl's like, that's a, that's a little rude, don't you think? How he's like. Like shooting someone off a motorcycle.
[01:13:17] Speaker A: You're moving fast. What, was I supposed to not shoot you?
[01:13:21] Speaker B: I have a feeling that's how I would be if I was ever in a. In a world where I had to shoot people all the time. Any friendly fire that came from me, I would be like, I fucking. I don't know what I'm doing. Just sorry about it. I can only apologize so much for shooting you.
[01:13:38] Speaker A: God, I love they're having this conversation just in the middle of the highway, too.
[01:13:43] Speaker B: There's just, like, people hanging out the windows of their car being like, what are you doing?
[01:13:47] Speaker A: What the hell's going on out there?
[01:13:49] Speaker B: Causing what they would call in Chicago a gaper's delay.
[01:13:53] Speaker A: Really?
A gaper's delight?
Is that what you said?
[01:13:58] Speaker B: Gaper's delay? So that's.
[01:14:00] Speaker A: Oh, gaper's delay. I think it's a gaper's delay.
[01:14:03] Speaker B: No, gaper's delay. It's the. The traffic that is formed from people going slower around an accident than they absolutely have to. And so it's.
Yeah, they're rubber. Rubber necking, some people call it.
[01:14:18] Speaker A: Rubber neck trafficking. Yeah.
[01:14:22] Speaker B: And Carl's like, he won't be needing this motorcycle. And he shoots it so.
[01:14:31] Speaker A: This explodes.
[01:14:33] Speaker B: He's like, let's get out of here. And Javi's like, I got something. And Carl's like, no, no, no. We're gonna do this. And then they shadow blast out of there.
Just cool as a cucumber.
I do like that. He puts up the hand. He's like, this is the 21st century. We have better ways.
[01:14:50] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: I do like the restraint and not talking about how many times Javi has to throw up here after shadow blasting.
[01:15:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I was looking for it then.
[01:15:02] Speaker B: You know, it's like, what's. I do like how this shadow scene where Javi says 1864, that hat is so tall. Oh, yeah, there's some good tall hat in this issue.
Dexter soy. He knows to do the tall hat. I like the contrast between their hat sizes, too.
[01:15:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Carl's a little taller still, though.
[01:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
Talking about the last time they saw each other was 1864, Javi says was hunting down cliff Truman. Remember him? And then, Johnny, what is this that Carl says?
[01:15:42] Speaker A: He says the rancher just outside Tulsa.
[01:15:44] Speaker B: What Oklahoma mentioned?
[01:15:46] Speaker A: Oklahoma. Tulsa. I grew up in Tulsa, so I.
[01:15:49] Speaker B: Grew up outside of Tulsa.
[01:15:51] Speaker A: We love Tulsa.
[01:15:52] Speaker B: So it's almost. I'd like to say. I'd like to say that we made this happen. If it weren't for us talking about Tulsa all the time on this show, they would have chosen some other western.
[01:16:03] Speaker A: Yeah, there is. Maybe Tommy Farley does listen to the show, because we do talk about Tulsa a lot.
[01:16:07] Speaker B: Now.
[01:16:07] Speaker A: There's Tulsa and Swan.
[01:16:08] Speaker B: I am now going to obsessively be like, they put this in here because we said something in there.
He does.
[01:16:15] Speaker A: In the newest issue, someone calls him a. Ask how he thinks he's a Tarantino character.
[01:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:21] Speaker A: So I was wondering. I talk about Tarantino quite a bit.
[01:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, and. Yeah. Hey, Johnny. There you go.
This is a conspiracy I can get behind. We need to get. We need to get Brock the shock on this to break the news to the world.
We get a flashback of how Carl and Javi met. And it starts off with a bear.
[01:16:44] Speaker A: A big old bear.
[01:16:47] Speaker B: And Carl. Carl fucking misses the bear.
We can tell that he has not missed bears in the past because he is literally wearing a bear pelt, but this one he doesn't get. And so he decides that he's gonna search for the bear and try to take him down. And while he does that, he stumbles across a confederate camp here, Johnny.
And while he's while he's doing some reconnaissance, one of the guys sneaks up behind him and has him dead to rights, as they say.
[01:17:21] Speaker A: What does that mean, I wonder? Dead to rights?
[01:17:23] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, I know. I know what's being.
I don't. I don't know. Yeah, but. So then we cut to Carl's in the camp. He's been beat up, and they're. They're still questioning him. They're like, I don't. He's like, I was hunting. I didn't know you were here. I just stumbled across you, and they're like, I don't believe you. Tell me the truth. And then they whip him, and they whip him, and they whip him. And then while they're whipping him and then being like, I'm gonna drag him behind my horse, one of them gets shupped right in the. Right in the neck with a knife.
And here we have Javi. Gunslinger, Spawn.
Classic.
[01:18:06] Speaker A: Gunslinger.
[01:18:06] Speaker B: Classic. Classic. Classic. Classic, indeed.
[01:18:11] Speaker A: Not with the new bandana.
[01:18:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And Carl's like, you know, I was. I was out of it. So I didn't see what you did to them, but I've seen you fight since then, and I could. I could. I could guess what you did, and I know that they were. They were definitely outmatched.
So this one guy just gets shot so full of lead, man.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: Then we get a hobby. Nose.
[01:18:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
He does the little blowing off the barrel.
[01:18:43] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:18:44] Speaker B: Then the guy on the horse with the whip comes after him, and Javi does the ha, gets the whip wrapped around his wrists, and pulls the guy off the horse. And then, you know, he's standing over the guy, and he's like, I hear.
[01:18:59] Speaker A: You'Re just a ghost. And he goes, I am?
[01:19:02] Speaker B: And he's like, and I need you. I need you to go tell the people that you saw the ghost. Here's three days of water. Goodbye.
And so he helps carl up onto a horse, and then right off into the sunset. Then, you know, he says, you didn't speak another word till we got to the next town. You never did talk much. Guess that's just your way. Uh huh.
[01:19:24] Speaker A: And Carl offers him a smoke.
[01:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Which, you know, obviously, is that. That Javi doesn't recognize it for what it is. It's obviously like the. You want this before I kill you, you want a last second break? And Javi's like, no, I'm good. I make my own.
And Javi's actually able to do some math here. So you've been around since 1864. How that'd make you over 150 years old.
[01:19:54] Speaker A: They say something's got strange over time. Let's just say that.
[01:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, you know, he asks about Amy. Carl asks about Amy. And then as Javi is answering, he just kind of, like, wanders away, and.
[01:20:07] Speaker A: Like, fucking first he turns into a robot man.
[01:20:11] Speaker B: Robot robots out. Yeah. And then he says, yep, strange things happened along the way. And he goes over and he picks up a tree, and he.
[01:20:21] Speaker A: He does the violator classic. Picks up a tree.
[01:20:24] Speaker B: He. He thooms it down onto Javi, just.
[01:20:29] Speaker A: Like, smacks him with the tree.
Big ass tree. We aren't kids anymore.
[01:20:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:37] Speaker A: I will say in the flashback, neither of them really look like kids.
[01:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah, no, they definitely look like full grown men. And then as the dust clears, we've got Javi just, like, stuck in the dirt and Carl standing over him with his super futuristic gun and says, and now I know who the real enemy is. And we get a. To be continued.
[01:20:59] Speaker A: Dun dun dun.
[01:21:02] Speaker B: Got a necrometer of 1197.
Much better than the end of the Gunslinger episode that came out this week. Boy, oh, boy.
[01:21:12] Speaker A: Oh, 29. Yeah, everybody's low now.
[01:21:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:21:17] Speaker A: Gets a little even playing field for Javi.
[01:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of what the whole issue is about. We got some spawning grounds. We get Carlos saying that he likes to read the. He likes to imagine the characters in a certain voice. Voice. And obviously, the classic. Al Simmons is Keith David. Keith David is Al Simmons.
And he imagines that Oscar Isaac is who Javi is.
And Thomas Healy says, I wouldn't have thought about it at first, but now that you mentioned it, I can see it, technically hear it, but, yeah, I.
[01:21:54] Speaker A: Think he'd be a good hobby, boys.
[01:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he'd be a good hobby.
He could just be happy. That would be good.
[01:22:01] Speaker A: He could be him.
[01:22:03] Speaker B: We got this guy Brian saying he loves Spahn and that Dexter soy has been doing some great work. And Dexter soy is doing some good work, Johnny. Yeah.
[01:22:14] Speaker A: And Thomas says, don't worry, we'll keep him around for a long time.
[01:22:18] Speaker B: Then this dude named Alexander sent in some artwork that he liked of Gunslinger. And it's dope. It's real dope.
[01:22:26] Speaker A: It's got a big old gun.
[01:22:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:22:28] Speaker A: It's gunslinger stained glass.
[01:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's like a stained glass that's like.
There's, like a demon face underneath it.
[01:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:22:39] Speaker B: There's so much detail in this. It is great.
Yeah, pretty awesome. Need more sponsor universe, Johnny.
[01:22:50] Speaker A: Always.
[01:22:50] Speaker B: Well, they got it. They got it in spades.
Then there's a monstrous ad.
The augur gunslinger page. Punchers is the toy ad on the back.
That's gunslinger number 27, Johnny.
[01:23:05] Speaker A: One of my favorite numbers. My birthday and a fine issue of Gunslinger.
[01:23:09] Speaker B: Very fine, very fine, very fine.
[01:23:11] Speaker A: But in what ways is it fine? Are there pros and cons? That's what we must get into, because, David, as you know, it is time to rate the puppies.
So these two puppies we had today, we got spa number 15 1st up. Wow, wow, wow.
What do you think about spawn 15, David?
[01:23:34] Speaker B: Johnny. Johnny. I made up a little song to describe how I feel about spawn 15. I forgot how the melody went already, but I'm going to try to recreate it here.
It's a hoot and a holler and a dog without a collar. And if you say you hate it, then you owe me a dollar.
So it's a hoot and a holler.
[01:23:55] Speaker A: Dog without a collar.
[01:23:56] Speaker B: There's a dog without a collar. And if you don't like it, you owe me a dollar. So it's an excellent, excellent issue of spawn. It is so much fun.
Just some classic, classic, classic stuff. I'm gonna give it. Johnny, there's. I. We've already talked about it at length.
I loved it. I just loved it. I'm gonna give it five little violators and a little green bubble. It's just. It's just excellent. It's excellent. It's an excellent piece of old classic spawn. And it's fun. I had so much fun reading it. I had so much fun going over it.
[01:24:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I like this issue a lot. Art's great. I mean, Todd McFarlane, batten on all cylinders. Of course. It's a great story with the unreliable narrator of the violator.
I mean, I don't know. I liked it a lot. It's great.
For some reason. I want to give it a four, though. I don't know why. I don't want to give it a five. It just feels like a four to me.
[01:24:58] Speaker B: Johnny, that is one fifth of $1. So you owe me twenty cents. I owe you $0.20.
No, no. The ratings are purely subjective, Johnny.
[01:25:09] Speaker A: So, yeah, I don't know if it's. Cause I'm usually not a big medieval guy. I don't know what. But it's just a four out for me.
You know, you get medieval spawn story. You get spawn sleeping in an alley, uses a board on some guy. What's not the love?
[01:25:22] Speaker B: What's not the love? So that was pretty quick. Gunslinger 27. Johnny, what you think about Gunslinger 27? Oh, I forgot to say. What? Four.
[01:25:31] Speaker A: I'm giving it. I'm giving it four.
I'm gonna give it four.
Burt. Boogers.
[01:25:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:25:40] Speaker A: You flame boiled a little burger. Flame broiled booger.
[01:25:43] Speaker B: From boogersling.
[01:25:45] Speaker A: From burger sling.
That's hilarious. And next up we have Gunslinger 27.
[01:25:51] Speaker B: Yes, indeed.
[01:25:52] Speaker A: A little fun little romp in the woods with Carl. Yeah, Carl, meet Carl.
[01:25:59] Speaker B: I mean, with friends like Carl, who needs enemies? Yeah.
[01:26:04] Speaker A: Seriously.
[01:26:05] Speaker B: Seriously.
[01:26:05] Speaker A: This Carl guy can't make up his mind. He shoots gunslinger off a bike. He didn't know it was him. So either he's just going around randomly shooting fast people, or he's lying. Yeah, and he lies to him, and he becomes a robot, and he hits him with a tree.
[01:26:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it's spoiler alert. We don't really get very long to interrogate what he actually.
[01:26:24] Speaker A: He goes back and forth again in the next issue. He just keeps flip flopping. Yeah, he's like that guy on. Oh, my God. He's like. He's like the vast Ray Winstone on Indiana Jones. The kingdom of the crystal skull.
I haven't put in a cricket sound here.
[01:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah, come on.
[01:26:42] Speaker A: King of the crystal skull. I just watched. It's on Pluto tv, like, every ten minutes now.
[01:26:45] Speaker B: Sorry, sorry. The. The Indiana Jones that sticks in my head most is last crusade and fucking sala, whereas, like, sala, I said, no horses. That's five horses. Like, for my brother in law.
[01:26:58] Speaker A: No, there's a guy, he's kind of like the solid, but his name is Mac, and he's like a double agent, but he switches double agents, like, four times without the movie. That's what Carl's like.
[01:27:08] Speaker B: Carl. Oh, Carl. So what are you. What are you gonna. What are you gonna rate? What's he gonna rate, mister Carl here.
[01:27:15] Speaker A: I'm gonna give this issue three beautiful bears.
[01:27:19] Speaker B: They are quite a beautiful bear. Look at that.
[01:27:21] Speaker A: It's a beautiful bear. And we get three out of five. I mean, I like it. I like Carl. It's pretty funny.
[01:27:27] Speaker B: I like.
[01:27:28] Speaker A: It's just a slight issue. Yeah, it's kind of spinning its wheels before 350 happens. I feel like. Yeah, but it's just one other. One of those things where, like, it's another one of those gunslingers where the Todd father introduces a villain who's there for, like, two issues, and he dies. It's happened quite a few times.
[01:27:47] Speaker B: Yeah, but, I mean, that's. That kind of fits with the. The fun little spaghetti western style of the. Of the book.
[01:27:54] Speaker A: Like, yeah, he's going around killing all these people. That's, like, the whole point.
[01:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:27:58] Speaker A: I'm not complaining.
[01:27:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I I do like how, how bootylicious this bear is as it's running away.
It's very bootylicious. I agree with you, Johnny. I am gonna give it three. Hold on now there. Gestures.
[01:28:13] Speaker A: Hold on now there.
[01:28:15] Speaker B: Uh, it's perfectly serviceable for some entertainment.
Carl's kind of a jerk. Dexter, soy's art is great.
[01:28:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. The art's great.
[01:28:25] Speaker B: It's, I mean, it's not earth shattering. It's not the first gunslinger I would throw at somebody.
It's not something that I would be like, you know, you can just, you can just, you can just skip that one. I'll, I've read it for you. You don't need to worry about it. It's, it's good. It's good.
[01:28:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, that's all, that's all a solid issue.
[01:28:44] Speaker B: That's all it needs to be, is good. And I enjoyed reading it, so. You know what else I enjoy, Johnny?
[01:28:51] Speaker A: What else do you enjoy, David?
[01:28:53] Speaker B: I enjoy informing listeners of people that they might get along with on Instagram.
[01:29:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that, too, because we can get along with a lot of good people on Instagram.
[01:29:06] Speaker B: There's a lot of good, well, I don't, I don't know if I've said it in a while, but there's a, there's a great spawn community. Everybody is so positive in this community.
[01:29:15] Speaker A: It's, everyone loves so good.
[01:29:18] Speaker B: It's so good. It's so good. But this week, this week, we're always.
[01:29:21] Speaker A: Gonna, way better than the fucking Reddit.
[01:29:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Reddit is the most Eisley cantina of fandoms. Yes, that's, that's just what it is. That's just what it is. But this week we've got collectibles from the crypt. That's collectibles. Underscore, from, underscore the underscore crypt. And they are over on Instagram doing some real bitchin figure, action figure photography. They've got, you know, mostly horror and spawn related, and they've got some of the gnarliest nineties McFarlane toys that they've taken photos of. And it is, they're posed beautifully. They've got great lighting. There's a king Ghidorah, too. So you got your three headed dragons going on. Three headed dragons from Venus.
Actually, no, they're not from Venus. They just attacked Venus first. That's right. Great issues of spawn that they've collected. That's real fun.
They got a nice slabbed Malibu sun issue of Spawn there. Spawn number 13.
[01:30:35] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[01:30:37] Speaker B: So it was, I guess, like an anthology comic book that Malibu was putting out in the early nineties that has the first official color printed appearance of spawn. So.
[01:30:51] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[01:30:53] Speaker B: So that means cover price would have a little key next to it.
[01:30:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:30:58] Speaker B: And they got some. Some great Cygor pictures here going on.
[01:31:02] Speaker A: A lot of cool action figures. Some american werewolf and London guys, Leatherface.
[01:31:10] Speaker B: The great Redeemer, action figure that they've got. They've actually got, like, an action flying shot, which is pretty great. I bet that one.
I bet that one was a. A bitch to get, right.
Yeah.
[01:31:25] Speaker A: Fruit could follow the mighty morphin Power Rangers. Pig eating a person.
[01:31:30] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:31:32] Speaker A: They got zombie or, sorry, Frankenstein. Raphael. That's pretty cool.
[01:31:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:31:38] Speaker A: Give him a follow.
[01:31:39] Speaker B: Do it, do it. Collectibles from the crypt. Some more. Some more good stuff is Brian. Brian. He does our music. Our music is real good stuff. That's Brian Voylescor 27 over on Instagram.
He's the man.
[01:31:52] Speaker A: Indeed. Make sure to give him a follow.
[01:31:54] Speaker B: Tell him. Tell him we sent you.
[01:31:56] Speaker A: Tell him we sent you.
While you're over there, make sure to give us a follow. We are regarding spawnpod on Instagram. We're posting our pickups. We're posting stuff about the episodes, fun events going on. All kinds of things.
[01:32:11] Speaker B: Yep.
We're doing that. Tell us. Tell us we sent you.
[01:32:16] Speaker A: Tell us we sent you. Yeah, give us a. Give us a follow there if you aren't following us already.
[01:32:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:32:21] Speaker A: And if you aren't subscribed, rated, or reviewed the podcast, do that as well.
[01:32:26] Speaker B: Please do. Yes, please do. Please tell. Tell your friends, your family, your coworkers. Go to the roof of a building and yell at people below you on the street. Hey, you there? Hey, you.
Listen to respawn?
[01:32:39] Speaker A: Listen to respawn.
Maybe you know about Albert Simmons. We need to go be an evangelical for Spawn. We got the evangelical in the back of this issue.
[01:32:48] Speaker B: We need to print.
[01:32:48] Speaker A: Must be an evangelical for Al Simmons.
[01:32:51] Speaker B: We need to print off a shit ton of spawn confetti and. And do a ticker tape parade with spawn confetti.
[01:32:58] Speaker A: Just respond.
[01:32:59] Speaker B: Just. Just for spawn and for us. So it'll be spawn in general. And regarding spawn confetti, I like it. And then, like, every time we enter a room, just be like.
[01:33:11] Speaker A: People would love that.
I feel like people would really like that.
[01:33:16] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. Because confetti. Confetti is very easy to clean up.
[01:33:21] Speaker A: Yeah. If it had glitter, in it too. That'd be great.
[01:33:25] Speaker B: Hey, a hate listen is a listen, Johnny.
It's true. If you're not on Instagram and you still want to reach out to us for any reason, you can always send us an emailguardingspawnpodmail.com dot. You know, send us questions that we can answer. Send us a story about spawn that speaks to why you love it so much. You know? If you want us to share photos of your spawn stuff on Instagram because you don't have an Instagram, do that. That'd be great. Just let us know. Reach out. If you send us a letter and don't tell us not to read it, Johnny will read it on the air. And if you send us your address, we'll send you some stickers.
[01:34:02] Speaker A: Sounds good to me.
[01:34:03] Speaker B: Yeah, sounds good to me. I want some stickers. I have a shit ton of stickers, and I still want more stickers, but I want to give those stickers away first.
[01:34:11] Speaker A: Yeah, well, each week I like to ask a question to probe or inspire anyone that wants to send an email.
[01:34:19] Speaker B: You do indeed.
[01:34:20] Speaker A: And I want to know if you have any carls in your life. Do you have anyone named Carl? Do you have anyone named Carl that is important to you?
If you have an important Carl in your life, hit us up, but don't hit us with a tree.
[01:34:35] Speaker B: I would say the most important Carl I have in my life, Johnny, is Carl's junior.
[01:34:41] Speaker A: Oh, I thought you were gonna say Eric Carle, author of the Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar.
[01:34:45] Speaker B: Those western bacon cheeseburgers were amazing.
As an Oklahoma state student, you got them for a dollar with your student id.
[01:34:56] Speaker A: Damn, that is a good deal.
[01:34:58] Speaker B: That is a great deal, man. Also known as Hardee's. Occasionally, in other places, I've got a.
[01:35:05] Speaker A: Co worker named Carl who's a good guy. So nice. That's the Carl I know.
[01:35:08] Speaker B: Nice.
All right.
[01:35:10] Speaker A: Never hit me with a tree or shoot me off a motorcycle.
[01:35:14] Speaker B: Well, that's good to know. That's. And in this crazy world we live in, Johnny, it's good to know who won't shoot you off a motorcycle or hit you.
[01:35:21] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:35:22] Speaker B: While we're on the topic, Johnny, rip to a legends. Carl Weathers gone way too soon.
[01:35:30] Speaker A: Rip, rip. We were on the topic of him.
[01:35:34] Speaker B: No, we're just talking about Carl's.
[01:35:36] Speaker A: Oh, Carl's, right. I was like, why did you mention Carl Weathers? Carl? Yeah, your favorite carls. It doesn't have to be a Carl, you know. It could be any Carl.
[01:35:42] Speaker B: Yeah, any Carl you can even just send us, you can even just send us a message that says, rip Carl Weathers and your address, and we'll send you a sticker.
[01:35:50] Speaker A: Or you just say Carl. Or you send us an email. Just says Carl.
[01:35:53] Speaker B: Carl.
That would be great. That would be great. Well, Johnny, you know what else would be great?
Coming back and doing this next week.
[01:36:05] Speaker A: I agree.
[01:36:05] Speaker B: You agree? I agree. Yeah, we are in agreement. That means we need to debate what we're going to read. I say we should read wildcats and talk wildcats next week.
[01:36:18] Speaker A: No, I'm going to veto that because there's too much spawn, David. There's just too much spawn. There's more every day. More every week, at least.
[01:36:25] Speaker B: Not too much spawn. Just so much spawn.
[01:36:28] Speaker A: So much. Not too much. Not too much. There's never too much. There's just a lot of spawn to cover. We can't be covering wildcats, at least not yet.
[01:36:35] Speaker B: Not until the spawn wildcats crossover.
[01:36:37] Speaker A: Exactly.
So actually going on to what. Something we've been looking forward to for a while. To spawn 16, which, as we said at the end of this issue is the Grant Morrison Greg Capullo.
[01:36:49] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. And that's going to be getting into that. That's going to be spawn 16. Good old classic. Good old. The first. The first Greg Capullo issue of Spawn.
Start of an era, Johnny. Start of an era.
[01:37:05] Speaker A: It is. It is because he doesn't get off it. Because he. Because Todd says there's going to be, like, a few issues, but he just stays on it. Right.
[01:37:11] Speaker B: I have a feeling that Greg Capullo's like, I'm. I'm drawing this. I'm drawing this until I'm done. If you want to stop me before then, you got to beat me in an arm wrestling contest.
[01:37:22] Speaker A: I'm doing this all the way.
[01:37:26] Speaker B: And Todd seems like the kind of person who would know. No, I'm good. I like my wrist not broken. Thank you very much.
[01:37:36] Speaker A: I don't want it to happen like the fly, where just, like, the bone pops out.
[01:37:40] Speaker B: Although I would put Tom o against Greg Capullo as a fair arm wrestle because, you know, he's got to have beefy.
[01:37:48] Speaker A: Oh, he has those lettering muscles. Yeah.
You know, it's got to be intense.
[01:37:53] Speaker B: Definitely. And then for our, for our more modern issue, Johnny, we're gonna be reading. What are we gonna be reading? We're gonna be reading spawn 349. That's what we're gonna be reading.
[01:38:05] Speaker A: On that throne. Road to the throne. On that third road.
[01:38:08] Speaker B: On the throne. On the road again.
[01:38:12] Speaker A: To the throne again.
[01:38:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. Oh, man.
It's fun to pick up the pieces, and it's fun to, you know, knowing where it ends up. We like to review it. You don't know if anything is foreshadowing until after you know, the results and then go back to it, and then you can be like, ah, that's foreshadowing. Because the first time you're reading it, it's not foreshadowing that, you know, it's just the story. You can only identify it as foreshadowing after. Right. You know, I just got way in the weeds, Johnny. Like, I was golfing. I got stuck in the sand pit and need to be. Need to be. I need some help getting out of this, Johnny.
[01:38:54] Speaker A: I'm gonna pull you out.
[01:38:56] Speaker B: You're gonna pull me out?
Speaking of. Speaking of pulling me out, Johnny, I think I'm actually gonna pull you in.
[01:39:05] Speaker A: Okay?
[01:39:07] Speaker B: I'm gonna pull you in, and I'm gonna pull you into McCormick place.
[01:39:11] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. Cause we got respawned live. Our first live fucking episode, baby. At c two e two. And we're going on April 26, Friday at 05:00 p.m. Be there. We'll see you there.
[01:39:28] Speaker B: And then for all those sponverts and all those yet to be sponverts, we're gonna pull you into the world of spawn. We're gonna. We're gonna make you love Al Simmons as much as we do.
[01:39:39] Speaker A: So we're doing a live show at c two e two.
[01:39:41] Speaker B: Come by. Come by and see us. It'll be. It'll be a real good time.
[01:39:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it'd be a great time. Or if you have anyone you know in Chicago that goes to c two e two, let them know. Hey, you should check out respawn.
[01:39:50] Speaker B: As far as. Since we're talking about, you know, what we're reading for next week, we should let you know that we are going to cover at the live show. Spawn kills everyone. Number one. The one shot from 2016.
It's convention themed. We'll be at a convention.
[01:40:05] Speaker A: This gives what's not to love.
[01:40:07] Speaker B: This will give you, like, five or six weeks to read it.
[01:40:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Plenty of time.
[01:40:12] Speaker B: It'll be. It'll be a good time. But, yeah, for next week, that is spawn 16, spawn 349, and double spawn. Double spawn. I love a double spawn week.
And Johnny, Johnny, Johnny.
I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna be a very good time. Both next week and c two e two.
[01:40:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:40:34] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I think. I think that leaves me with nothing else to say. But may the scorched be with you.
[01:40:43] Speaker A: And also with you.
[01:40:45] Speaker B: Yes, indeed.
[01:40:46] Speaker A: Oh, that reminds me. I went to a Star wars car tournament this week.
[01:40:49] Speaker B: Oh, nice. How was that?
[01:40:51] Speaker A: It was good.
[01:40:51] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:40:52] Speaker A: It was a new car game coming out, so they did, like, a pre release. So I was playing that.
[01:40:55] Speaker B: Oh, hell, yeah. Hell, yeah.
Was it held in a hive of.
Of a dank hive of file?
[01:41:04] Speaker A: It wasn't that dank. Everyone smelled good. It was fine. It was at the dice dojo way up north.
[01:41:09] Speaker B: Okay, so it wasn't held at the most size of the cantina?
[01:41:12] Speaker A: No, it was not. It was held in a very respect. There were people playing Lorcana. There were people playing magic.
[01:41:18] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:41:18] Speaker A: People playing Star wars nice.
[01:41:20] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:41:21] Speaker A: It was very nice and very fun.
[01:41:23] Speaker B: And then there was a rumble between the groups over nerd supremacy.
[01:41:26] Speaker A: Afterwards, we ran out of tables. We had to fight over the tables. So we were playing magic cards versus Star wars cards, and it was really confusing because the rules don't match. We were trying to make a match up, and it was just wild.
[01:41:39] Speaker B: So you. You belted one hand to each other, and then you were trying to stab each other with your own respective trading cards, trying to. First blood wins.
[01:41:49] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:41:50] Speaker B: That's. So that's why you're all cut up with paper cuts.
[01:41:54] Speaker A: It's sad. If I wish people more people would have used protective sleeves. It would have been a lot less painful.
[01:41:58] Speaker B: Also would have not ruined so many cards.
[01:42:04] Speaker A: I know. They're all covered in blood.
Sorry for the Star wars thing.
[01:42:43] Speaker B: No, I fucking love it, Johnny. I fucking love it.
[01:42:46] Speaker A: Had to get it in.
[01:42:47] Speaker B: Had to.
