Episode 85 - Spawn 17 and King Spawn 29

[00:00:00] Speaker A: I am not here to endorse or deny what anybody does in his or her life. [00:00:04] Speaker B: I could care less. [00:00:04] Speaker A: If you want to be a doctor, a lawyer, or if you want to love men or women, your life is your life. It is not for me to tell you how to live. Todd McFarlane, January 1994. Good evening, and welcome to the Malibulge. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:57] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And, Johnny, I am livid. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Livid. I thought you were tired. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Well, I mean, men can be both, right? [00:01:09] Speaker A: Actually, yeah, the tiredness can make you even more angry. Yeah. [00:01:12] Speaker B: But. But I was this week, X Men 97 dropped on Disney, and. Yeah, they made the X Men woke. How dare they? [00:01:20] Speaker A: They made the X Men woke. They've always been woke. Who said that? The Internet. [00:01:25] Speaker B: Oh, people on the. Yeah, I can't tell if most of it is just people making jokes or how much of it is actual people being like, I can't believe they made the X Men woke. But, I mean, that's kind of what the X Men have always been. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty much. They've always been pretty progressive. [00:01:44] Speaker B: That's kind of the point. What? Marginalized communities? A disbalance in power? An inability to accept that people younger than you or different than you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. [00:02:02] Speaker A: That's funny. Have you watched it yet? [00:02:03] Speaker B: I watched the first episode, and I have a feeling. I'm. I don't know if I've discussed my X Men, my X Men cycle with you, Johnny. [00:02:13] Speaker A: No. [00:02:15] Speaker B: I'll randomly be sitting there and be like, man, I really want to read some fucking X Men. And then I will do a deep dive into one, like, section of X Men and gets. And get so confused and just, you know, like, lost in the X Men sauce. And then by the end of it, be like, I'm never touching another X Men. My brain hurts so bad. And then, like, three or four months later, I'll have a drink. I'll be on the library website, and I'll be like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna reserve, like, 400 X Men books, and it's gonna be great. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I just do it all again. Do it all again. I love. I love X Men. But being in X Men times is a little. It's like, what is going on? [00:02:59] Speaker A: There's a lot of books to keep up. [00:03:01] Speaker B: There's. Oh, boy. There's so much. It's got. They. They're also very typical of that. That nineties bloat that everything had where it's just like, the story is spread across every single title, and there's like, 27 titles, and you gotta read them all. By the time you get back to the one title that's moving the story forward, you've forgotten what happens. And you're like, but Toad's over here messing some shit up. I don't get it, but X Men, excellent. It's good shit. We love it. [00:03:31] Speaker A: My main experience with X Men has always been the tv show and then the movies. I read some of the comics. We had them as a kid, but I was mainly into, like, just the movies and the, like, the toys and stuff. Just the idea of it. [00:03:46] Speaker B: The cartoon was fucking kick ass. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. I like that cartoon a lot. I like that. I like the Spider man cartoon on Fox kids. [00:03:55] Speaker B: I don't think I ever watched the Spider man cartoon. [00:03:57] Speaker A: We used to watch that a lot. I liked that one. [00:03:59] Speaker B: I didn't get into Spider man until much later. I don't know. It just like Spider man didn't exist kind of in my. My brain space. Like, oh, Spider Man's there. And then I just never followed it, which is dumb, because Spider man is very good. There's a reason Spider Man's been around for fucking 60 years. 70 years. 66. [00:04:18] Speaker A: Long time. [00:04:18] Speaker B: 66 is when he came out or something like that. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Long time, boy. You also have been around a long time now, Mister Sponge. Albert Simmons. Us too. Us almost coming up on two years in two months. [00:04:32] Speaker B: Oh, no, I was talking about the fact that we are now technically antiques. [00:04:35] Speaker A: Oh, right. We're antiquities. [00:04:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Spawn has been around for a good long while. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And we're getting the two ends of it here. [00:04:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we are. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Because we're getting a. This is actually really interesting because this is exactly these two issues. I don't know if you realize, David, these came out exactly 30 years apart because this is January 1994. This is January 2024. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Oh, dang. [00:05:00] Speaker A: And what do we planned it? [00:05:02] Speaker B: And what did we plan, Johnny? [00:05:05] Speaker A: We planned two issues of swan from Swans universe as usual. And today we've got a classic. Because we are regarding swan podcast. Yes, welcome in. First time listening. [00:05:17] Speaker B: We got lost in the tangent sauce too early. [00:05:19] Speaker A: We got lost in the tangent sauce too early. But, yeah, we are regarding Spawn, where we do two issues from Spawn's universe. And usually, except when we don't, which sometimes we don't. Last week we didn't. Cause we had a special guest that we really wanted to talk to a lot. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Oh, man, it was super great. It was a great time. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you're listening to this episode and you haven't listened to last week's, listen to last week's, because it's Mark Spears, the COVID artist, and he's amazing and great to talk to, and it's a great episode. [00:05:44] Speaker B: He was a sweetheart. He was so much fun. [00:05:47] Speaker A: But we've got spawn. Hold on, I'm gonna sneeze. Ah. My ring light makes me sneeze sometimes. Maybe not. [00:05:53] Speaker B: That's a. That's a. Like a. Like, a rod and cone thing that you have that, like, some. Some receptors are super sensitive, and that's why a lot of people will sneeze when they look at a light. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Oh, really? Okay. [00:06:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:04] Speaker A: So the two issues we have today are Spawn 17 and King Spawn 29. [00:06:11] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:06:12] Speaker A: One from January 1994, the other from January 2024. [00:06:18] Speaker B: And they're both pretty fantastic. Not gonna lie. I'm very excited. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Pretty different. I was gonna say both written by Todd McFarlane, but they're not. [00:06:27] Speaker B: No, decidedly not. In fact, there's, like, no Todd McFarlane arc in either of these. He's only got one credit, and that's writing. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Wow. [00:06:36] Speaker B: For Kingspawn 29. [00:06:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:06:39] Speaker B: Well, I guess he's got. He's got multiple credits because he's got creative director Spawn created by. Et cetera, et cetera, yada, yada, yada. But creatively, only one credit. Yeah. What you gonna do about it? [00:06:56] Speaker A: What you're gonna do is read some spawn about it. [00:06:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I mean, Johnny, that's my answer to everything. What are you gonna do about it? I read some spawn. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Pretty much these days. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:06] Speaker A: So first up, we've got spawn 17, like we said. This is from January 1994. I was a wee lad. I guess I was in first or second grade. [00:07:18] Speaker B: I was recovering from that non alcoholic eggnog hangover I had around Christmas time. Oh, yeah. [00:07:25] Speaker A: Christmas is always good. [00:07:26] Speaker B: As a kid, maybe just finished bitching and complaining about not being allowed to stay awake all night to see the ball drop on New Year's Eve and then falling asleep anyway, I was allowed. [00:07:39] Speaker A: To stay up pretty much from when I wanted to. Sometimes I fall asleep beforehand, though. [00:07:44] Speaker B: I. I mean, I have a feeling that, knowing myself now, I probably was just a very unpleasant child to be around when I was tired. So I have a feeling that. That led a lot into it. If I woke up around midnight, I was allowed to come out and watch the ball drop, but I wasn't allowed to, like, continuously stay awake because sure. [00:08:03] Speaker A: You know, you get snacks and stuff and just eat snacks and drink soda. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Yeah. When I was starting, when I think when we were. When I was like seven or eight, we started hanging out with a family of one of my sister's friends, and then we'd, like, bounce between their house and our house for New Year's and Super bowl, etcetera. [00:08:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:26] Speaker A: A lot of snacking time. A lot of snacking time in January, man. [00:08:30] Speaker B: It's the time for snacks. [00:08:31] Speaker A: It is the time. And this issue is a snack, as they say. So, yeah, 17. It is a pretty classic grey capullo cover. [00:08:42] Speaker B: I'd almost say that it's a spider man homage for the issue of Spider man, where he's being crushed by all the bricks and pipes in the subway. But it's not quite because this is just al walking through the sewer. Yeah. [00:09:00] Speaker A: And it's got this cool blue color scheme. [00:09:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:03] Speaker A: And there's all these blue, all these rats. There's like, icicles or something hanging. Or there's water. Duh. Water. Not icicles. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Icicles. I mean, it might be cold down there. You never know. Johnny. In the sewer in the winter time, it's January, so it's very likely that they icicled. Yeah. [00:09:20] Speaker A: So it's just like a scary thing you'd see in the sewer would be swan. [00:09:25] Speaker B: The scariest thing you would see in the sewer. I'm not sure about that, Johnny. [00:09:29] Speaker A: No, a scary thing. Not the scariest. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Although, you know, with a little bit of knowledge, I'm going to be a little bit of pedant here, Johnny. Apparently, worldwide, one of the largest issues that waste control individuals have is tomatoes, because everybody needs tomatoes, and tomato seeds will grow fucking everywhere. For instance, I'm growing some tomatoes in my basement right now so I can put them outside when it gets warmer. I dropped a sprouted tomato plant on my floor that had a little bit of dirt clung to it. Right. I dropped it a week ago. That motherfucker is still growing on the floor of my basement. [00:10:11] Speaker A: Damn. Tomatoes. [00:10:12] Speaker B: Damn. So, yeah, like, the waste treatment infrastructure is just clogged with tomato plants just growing randomly. [00:10:21] Speaker A: Wow. [00:10:22] Speaker B: So, I mean, it wouldn't be out of the question to see some tomato plants growing. Growing, you know, or a killer tomato. [00:10:29] Speaker A: That's what the killer tomatoes are among all these rats? [00:10:31] Speaker B: Well, I mean. Well, if you cross a tomato with a rat, that's how you get a killer tomato, right? [00:10:36] Speaker A: I think so, actually. [00:10:37] Speaker B: Were the killer tomatoes like an alien race that just. [00:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah, they were from outer space. They were out of space? Yeah. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:43] Speaker A: I think maybe not. [00:10:45] Speaker B: I don't remember. All I remember is just, like, half the movie is just a static shot of somebody, like, throwing a bucket of tomatoes down the street. And then the next shot is that exact same thing further down the street. [00:11:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know what they were, but I just remember the cartoon show they had in the eighties. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah, and the cartoon, they were definitely aliens because they had, like, mouths and eyes and little bitty arms. [00:11:13] Speaker A: But in the original movie, there's, like, a cute one. [00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it was kind of like the Smurfs only. [00:11:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it was basically like the Smurfs. They got a cute one in the new Godzilla v. Kong coming out. [00:11:25] Speaker B: Oh, a cute baby monkey. [00:11:27] Speaker A: A baby. A baby Kong. I keep seeing the instagram ads for it. Just funny. [00:11:34] Speaker B: So, yeah, I would say where's the baby Godzilla? But we know. [00:11:37] Speaker A: I know. When's godzooky coming? [00:11:39] Speaker B: Where's Manila? [00:11:41] Speaker A: Kazuki? Kazuki was the one on the US animated show. [00:11:45] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Manila's the one on the movies. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah. He's the best. [00:11:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. He does, like, weird dances and stuff. [00:11:51] Speaker B: I like that. I like that one movie where he's just hanging out with this old man and his grandson, and they're just, like, driving around the countryside in a little truck. [00:11:59] Speaker A: He's in the back of the truck. [00:12:01] Speaker B: And they're all just, like, smashed in there together. [00:12:05] Speaker A: That was to be one of the seventies ones. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. I don't remember which one it was. I'll take it. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Actually, the seventies ones are pretty funny. [00:12:13] Speaker B: Oh, they're great. But yeah. Excellent color. Excellent color on this cover. An excellent cover in general. Greg Capullo doing the good shit, Johnny. [00:12:22] Speaker A: Yep. We pop it open, and we got the image. Comics presents reflections part two. Story is again by Grant Morrison. They're doing their little three issue arc here. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:12:35] Speaker A: And pencils by Gray Capullo we've mentioned. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Inks by Mark Pennington, copy copy editor and letterer Tom Orzyszkowski. [00:12:48] Speaker B: Woohoo. [00:12:49] Speaker A: The hardest working man in showbiz. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Oh, man, he definitely is. [00:12:54] Speaker A: And color by Steve Olaf and La optics. This is a memory of Ross Andrew, did you happen to. [00:13:03] Speaker B: He was, uh, straight from the wikipedia here. Uh, an american comics artist and editor whose career in comics spanned six decades. He's best known for his work on the Amazing Spider Man, Wonder Woman, the Flash, and the Metalman. [00:13:16] Speaker A: And he co created the character the Punisher. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Oh, hey, that was probably from his Spider man run there. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Pretty cool. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Nice. [00:13:25] Speaker A: In memory of him. RIP. [00:13:27] Speaker B: RIP. Sci-Fi.com has an article here saying, remembering Ross Andrew, the most underappreciated Spider man artist. [00:13:34] Speaker A: He passed away in November 1993. So just before this issue, rip. Rest. Yeah. [00:13:42] Speaker B: I feel we should threaten to become a Spider man podcast again, Johnny. [00:13:47] Speaker A: All right. Look at that. Look at that little wallflower. Go to page one of issue one. [00:13:52] Speaker B: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go toss all this spawn of the garbage where it belongs, and I'll see you in a week. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Spider man one. Page one. I'll just start there again. So we start on page one of this comic. [00:14:08] Speaker B: Yes, we do. [00:14:10] Speaker A: And it says, somewhere in time, there's laughter. [00:14:14] Speaker B: I am the male bulgeon. [00:14:15] Speaker A: That's kind of what you look like right now, actually. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Kinda. I just need some horns and some. Yeah, he's got, he's got a. He's got his little orb hand going on there. He's got a visible orb, though, the orb being the earth. [00:14:27] Speaker A: He's got the whole world in his hands. [00:14:29] Speaker B: Uh huh. He's got the whole world. [00:14:32] Speaker A: Sing it. [00:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah. In his hand. Um, that. He's laughing because, you know, uh, if you remember from the last issue, uh, Al just realized that, uh, his body is in his grave, and so he's like, how am I dead, dead and alive all at the same time? And so Mel bull's just having a little fooled. You. [00:14:56] Speaker A: Gotcha. [00:14:57] Speaker B: This guy, it's a certain type of scharden Freude that you take joy from people's existential crises. That's a little cruel. I think Malbolsha needs to attend some therapy sessions and drill down on why he's such a bully. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. He needs to go to deep therapy. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Deep therapy because he's way down there in hell. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Sponsor go together. [00:15:27] Speaker B: It's like couples counseling. Oh, boy. A lot of just sitting there and with crossed arms and pouting and being like, he's a jerk. I'm not talking today. [00:15:37] Speaker A: I'm not talking about Bolger Mount. Bolger picks him up from the graveyard, and he walks him to Simmonstown. Or they poof. To Simmonstown. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Yeah. And Johnny Simmonsville. So, so it does. It has that, that spelled out at the top there on that one page, his hell spawn. Have they said hell spawn in reverse in reference to spawn before this? Or is, um. I can't. I can't remember when. When they reveal that he's spawned because he's a hell spawn. I can't remember if it's very early or way later than it should have been? [00:16:14] Speaker A: I don't know. I think it probably was already been said, but maybe not. [00:16:17] Speaker B: Well, just in case it hasn't already been said. That's. [00:16:19] Speaker A: That's the problem. If we did like the first ten episodes, then did a year break and did other shit and then came back to issue twelve, that's the problem. [00:16:28] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah. A problem or just a fun time? [00:16:32] Speaker A: A fun time, I'd say, yeah, I think we did the issues that the people needed. We were the heroes that people wanted, but not the ones they deserved. We were the ones they deserved. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So which one of us is the Harvey Bullock and which one of us is the commissioner Gordon? [00:16:49] Speaker A: Johnny Harvey Dent? [00:16:51] Speaker B: No. No. [00:16:52] Speaker A: Or Harvey Bullock? Oh, Harvey Bullock, the big guy. Yeah, that's me then. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Cause, you know, Harvey Bullock. You know, kind of. Kind of. Maybe that's, I think, the closest analogy to Sam and twitch and. [00:17:06] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, definitely. Oh, they're very close. Yeah, I didn't think about that. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Yeah, just Sam is definitely just like, I'm gonna take this fat policeman here and I'm gonna give him a different name. [00:17:16] Speaker A: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I love this little. I love this image of him standing in Malbolge's hand. [00:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's kind of hilarious. Kind of lion king y. Like, like he's like, I recognize everything here. This is my life. My God, what is this place? How kind of you to call me God. [00:17:41] Speaker A: So explains to him what we learned last issue, that this is a psychoplasm manifestation of Al Sim's memory that happened over a portal to hell when he died. Yes, as happens, you know, you know, that's like you do. [00:17:55] Speaker B: That's standard stuff. We should know this already. Yeah, I do like how it pulls his memories and then, like, replays specific important memories. So it's kind of like to go back to the Disneyland. [00:18:09] Speaker A: It's like Disneyland. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Yeah. To the analogy that was made in the last one. Um, so there's like little bitty vignettes of very important times in Al Simmons life that just keep playing on repeat. So it's like a. It's a small world, only it's a. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Spawn world of yourself. [00:18:26] Speaker B: And so he, like, sees very specifically, he sees the, uh, the scene of him proposing to Wanda in a little boat and. And Johnny, I was in this post Game of Thrones world. I was very struck by the. When you bent the knee and begged Wanda to marry you. [00:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought of Game of Thrones too. [00:18:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. He bent the knee, huh? And begged and begged. I believe Wanda has the power in that relationship. Yeah, I would not be surprised. Wanda Blake. Very strong willed woman. If you don't do it Wanda's way. Get the fuck out of here. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Yep. [00:19:03] Speaker B: Won't even listen to her grandmother for. [00:19:05] Speaker A: You know, you know, won't change her damn name. [00:19:08] Speaker B: No, she won't. No. Not even to priest, Granny Blake. And there is nothing in the world I wouldn't do, probably to please Granny Blake. [00:19:18] Speaker A: Of course. Oh, wow. And nothing. [00:19:23] Speaker B: We'll see. Terms and conditions may apply. [00:19:26] Speaker A: Terms and conditions may apply. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah. But so Al. Al starts yelling his favorite words. Johnny. [00:19:34] Speaker A: No, his second favorite word besides Wanda. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And we get a. We get a very good close up on the meatball head, sans nose, of Greg Capullo's spawn. And it's. He. He is a horrifying visage, Johnny. And then we follow that. No, into the sky as the sound waves collide with the space station that the angels took over. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yep. And they're up there, and they're sending down their new creation, the anti spawn. [00:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah. They're just, like, beaming them down. Like it's a. Like it's a torpedo. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Yep. Just shoot it right there. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Where are you, you bastard? You took my life. You took my soul. And so Al's just there trying to find out where Malbolgia left, because Malbolgia piffity poofed on by. [00:20:23] Speaker A: He goes away. He's got to go deal with his hair. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Yeah. He's got a blowout scheduled in 20 minutes. [00:20:29] Speaker A: Right. [00:20:30] Speaker B: And then, you know, what we know is to be anti spawn lands. You know, sounds like meteor style. [00:20:39] Speaker A: Spawn's like, what the hell is that? [00:20:40] Speaker B: He's like, it's making my skin go all tingly. His spider senses are spawner senses. [00:20:47] Speaker A: Spawner sense. [00:20:50] Speaker B: And then we get a wonderful, wonderful, full page anti spawn here. I love the belt buckle. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Is the spawn I know with the no spawn symbol. That's the best. Such a great little hilarious touch. No spawns. [00:21:07] Speaker B: No spawns. And, you know, he's got that big purple cape, and he's, like, covered in, like, crackling energy and flames. And he's got. He's got his. His Johnny Stormfist over there. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, and then we cut to Greg Capullo's first run at the pundits. But we only get two of them. [00:21:30] Speaker A: You only get two. We don't get the E. Entertainment reporter. [00:21:33] Speaker B: The CNN lady is looking kinda like she's very bored of what she's talking about. She's like this again. [00:21:43] Speaker A: This Jason wing guy. [00:21:44] Speaker B: He's like, this motherfucker. [00:21:46] Speaker A: And Brock, the shocks, fennel still, you know, rock. The shocking he's on. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Is that 40 other views? [00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah, 40 other views. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Or is that four p. I think it's 40. [00:21:55] Speaker A: I think it's 40. I think it's supposed to be 40. Just very stylized. 40, yeah. [00:22:00] Speaker B: And he's also yelling about Jason Nguyen, and he's like, wife starts yelling about conspiracies with Jason Nguyen being connected to the youngbloods. And, you know, any dirty secrets that he has and now that he's disappeared, are those dirty secrets gonna come out? It's very Jimmy Hoffa right here. Like, we know what he did. We just can't find what happened to him. And then, you know, so Terry's. Terry's watching flipping channels. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he's flipping between. [00:22:28] Speaker B: They immediately start talking about Al Simmons murdered six years ago. And then Wanda walks into the room, and Terry's like, up, up, up. [00:22:35] Speaker A: Flip the channel. That was a skill. That was a skill back in the day to be able to change the remote. If you watch something you're not supposed to be watching. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Not to dox my uncle or anything, but my uncle used to love watching the Dallas Cowboys. And whenever he came home, if the cowboys were on and we were watching something else, you had to quick hit the Uncle Robbie button. You gotta get back to the football game. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Get back to those Dallas Cowboys. [00:23:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:02] Speaker A: I miss the old art of channel surfing. It was always fun. I mean, you get Pluto tv now. You can kind of do it. [00:23:08] Speaker B: You can kind of do it. But the, I mean, the, the digital. The digital has a little bit more lag than the. [00:23:14] Speaker A: It does. It takes a second. [00:23:15] Speaker B: You could. You can't get into a groove as easily with it. [00:23:18] Speaker A: No, not really. [00:23:19] Speaker B: And the, the tempo is. The tempo's a little slower because, I mean, hell, like in toy story, when. When Mister Ham goes over there and he's just like, hold on, guys. [00:23:30] Speaker A: Yep. Okay, I'm going around the horror. I got to keep going. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. It was actually pretty easy to do when you only had seven channels. [00:23:40] Speaker A: That's true. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Seven channels, huh? [00:23:45] Speaker B: Seven channels. Yeah. I remember when we, when we got up in. Oh, boy. That was like, oh, a new channel. Woohoo. [00:23:54] Speaker A: So, yeah, basically, Wanda's like, oh, they talk about al in the news, and it's like, well, yeah, kind of. They're talking about Jason Wynn. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker A: She's like, I don't ever like that guy. [00:24:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's a, it's a very touching little moment here. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:07] Speaker B: And so, like, so she's like. She's like. I mean, that's. That's past. He can't, like, the worst thing he could do to me. He already did. So why are we even bothering with it? And then Terry's just kind of sitting there, like, oops. [00:24:22] Speaker A: Good point. Yeah. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Kind of the. There's. I mean, Terry hasn't overtly lied, but he's like, a lie of omission, maybe of. Well, I mean, he probably is legally sworn to secrecy for a lot of this. It's kind of in a tough position. Terry Fitzgerald. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I love that classic tv. We get a little zooming on. You can feel those. I know those type of buttons. [00:24:50] Speaker B: Like, oh, yeah. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Push down. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know. You know, she's getting the. The staticky face from having to be so close to it. [00:24:58] Speaker A: Yep. [00:24:59] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:24:59] Speaker A: I can just CRT tvs. [00:25:01] Speaker B: I can just feel the texture of those speaker covers. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Oh, yes. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:25:07] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I know exactly what you mean. [00:25:09] Speaker B: Then we cut back to the fight between spawn and anti spawn. [00:25:13] Speaker A: I've come to destroy you, hell Spawn. [00:25:14] Speaker B: He says, and how, you know, neither of them knows who the other one is, right? [00:25:19] Speaker A: They're fighting each other, but they don't even know. Yeah, they're mortal enemies. And they're in this church with some very classic spawn church action. [00:25:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:25:26] Speaker A: He zaps him with, like, a beam through the stained glass window. Awesome. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And so we got. We got Al's. Al's just, like, falling through the air, surrounded by all these little glass shards. It's great. [00:25:41] Speaker A: And then, you know, Al's like, this is where we got married. I can smell the incense and all that, but it's like an old wood. But it's just hell. It's not actually a church. It's just hell. Pretending to be a church. [00:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And then after he falls in, like, all the shadows have little eyes, and they're like, oh, it's him, it's him. Oh, it's him, it's him. [00:25:59] Speaker A: Let's get him. And basically, all the little demons come out of the woodwork. [00:26:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:03] Speaker A: Literally. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Won't the uniform be bonded to his nervous system? Not once we peel them like a WHOOP. [00:26:15] Speaker A: I love little demons. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Like, how grisly they are. They just. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Then, boom, with the opening of the church is anti spawn. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:23] Speaker A: He's mine, Phil. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Do you hear me? [00:26:27] Speaker A: And then he does, like, a double zap fist. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, and he just, like, burns them into, like, crisps. He just barbecues him. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Barbecues all the demons. Yeah, because, you know no one's gonna get his Al Simmons. Because he's the anti spawn, and that's his job. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Stink of burning meat and sulfur. Who is this guy? Never faced so much raw power. What if he's stronger than me? How come I feel like I know him? See how the holy burning light of heaven. Dispels the darkness, Johnny? Now you, hellspawn. I'll make you scream and scream and scream. [00:27:01] Speaker A: It's Billy Kincaid. [00:27:04] Speaker B: Man. [00:27:05] Speaker A: He's back. [00:27:06] Speaker B: He went on know a massive diet and exercise scheme down there in hell. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah, they really zapped it out of him. [00:27:14] Speaker B: Yeah, the whole hell's army boot camp did a number on him. And then we. And then we. We go to the viewing screen for major Vale, who's like, what the. I just got here, and fucking hell's breaking loose. Come on. [00:27:29] Speaker A: Like, quite literally. [00:27:32] Speaker B: He'S like, I'm not. Ugh, look at this guy. He's like, I'm too old for this to be my problem, but it's my problem. Ugh. You guys, you could just tell he's. He's over it. He's like, this program is dumb. [00:27:46] Speaker A: He's pretty good. Like, pretty calmly for, like, proving the existence of demons. I guess he found out about. Demons exist last week. [00:27:53] Speaker B: Yeah, well, but I mean. I mean, he's a. He's a grizzled. He's a grizzled veteran, man. So, you know, he knows how to take things in stride. [00:28:00] Speaker A: He knows he's seen aliens in area 51. [00:28:03] Speaker B: He's more upset about the. The slapdash manner in which the organ or the operation was put together than the, you know, actual demons. Actual demons. Yeah. He says, where's the policy? Come on. So then, you know, we're back to spawn. And anti spawn. Or spawn getting kicked around by anti spawn. A whole bunch. Just like he's getting punted around like a soccer ball. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah, basically, Swan's getting his ass kicked. [00:28:33] Speaker B: And Al's like, ah, shit. If I. If he hits me like that again, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm not gonna survive. So I'm gonna have to shadow blast out of here. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Sbahn's throwing off his butt there too. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Woo. [00:28:48] Speaker A: So nightwing. [00:28:49] Speaker B: So we get the. The first. The first Greg Capullo goopy, shadow blasting. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, the classic. Back when he was younger. And it hurt a lot more. And it's a big deal to trans. To teleport. [00:29:03] Speaker B: He's never gonna believe anything he sees on Star Trek again, Johnny, teleportation hurts. [00:29:07] Speaker A: And you snap into goop. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, a lot of Star Trek stories revolve around weirdnesses in the transport system. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that happens a lot, right? [00:29:20] Speaker B: People get caught in the pattern buffer. Or they can be stored in the pattern buffer to survive an explosion. Explosion. Or it accidentally clones a person. So Commander William Riker gets cloned. So that way, there's William Riker and Thomas Riker. Because his name is William Thomas Riker. And Thomas Riker goes to another ship for a while. Oh, boy. Crazy shit. [00:29:45] Speaker A: Sounds wild. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Star Trek is great, Jamie. But so Al shadow blasts back to his. His home base with the unhomed men, and they're just hanging around the classic, classic garbage can fire. One of the saddest things about moving to the city, Johnny, I have yet to. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Is that cog there against the wall, perhaps? [00:30:06] Speaker B: It looks like cog there. [00:30:08] Speaker A: It does. [00:30:09] Speaker B: It also looks like Johnny Cash there on the ground. [00:30:12] Speaker A: It doesn't like Johnny Cash, but I. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Have yet to see a whole bunch of people. Standing around a burning garbage can. Johnny. Feel. I feel cheated out of the urban experience. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I haven't seen that either. You're right. We should go do it sometime. [00:30:27] Speaker B: We should just find it empty. [00:30:28] Speaker A: It's cold again. It's cold again. We go do it. It's snowing today. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it is actually snowing. It's springtime. [00:30:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:35] Speaker B: You know, Sean. Sean. Spawn shows back up, and he's like, you guys. You guys got to get away. He's gonna follow me. And they're like, hey, it's Spawn. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:45] Speaker B: He's like, go. Get out of here. They're like, hey, get the hell away from me. And then it's too late, because there's a little, like. I like to think that this is a sizzling, popping ball of energy, Johnny. [00:30:59] Speaker A: It's kind of like the time travel thing in Terminator. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of bubble. He doesn't show up naked, though, so. [00:31:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we need a naked buff. Jason Wynn, let's go. [00:31:09] Speaker B: Could you imagine? He was like, my uniform. Hey, that would be a good way for spawn to be like, holy shit. I know that guy, Jason. [00:31:18] Speaker A: Except he's buff now. He used to be a chubby king, and now he's a fit king. [00:31:28] Speaker B: He says, you can't hide. I can track you through space and time to the ends of the earth. There's nowhere to run from death, Johnny. And Tom O is putting in some good work on this death here. [00:31:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I like the cragginess of the word balloon too. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah. We've kind of skipped over how good Tom O has been these last couple of issues. Cause, I mean, it's. Yeah, but Tom O's this one. [00:31:51] Speaker A: You get the. You get the spawn. You get the lettering for the spawn narration. You get the lettering for Spawn's voice. You get the lettering for the demons voices. Is different. Like the balloons on that. [00:32:01] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:32:02] Speaker A: He's really manually serves the story really well. [00:32:05] Speaker B: Jason Wynn has had several different styles of balloons and letters. Like, even just to this point in the comic. So, yeah, it's real good. It's real good. So Jason Wayne, he gets zapped him one more time. [00:32:21] Speaker A: And then he zaps him so hard that his symbiote starts bleeding. [00:32:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's losing consciousness. And I very much like the anti spawn pointing the finger at him. He's like, ah, so Greg Capullo. Good at fingers. Look at that. [00:32:34] Speaker A: Yep. This is before the blood feud mini series, where we find out k seven Letha is a girl. Because he calls his costume. He. [00:32:44] Speaker B: I need to find the blood feud. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I get it. I don't think it's very expensive. [00:32:49] Speaker B: I do like the. So antispawn is very clearly wearing gloves that have, like, the seams that go along. So I like that. That's another thing that's juxtaposed to how spawn is put together. Because he's got obvious glove on. Very regular fingers where spawn has, like, a skin tight glove on. Dah. Get those fingers away from me, please. I don't want those anywhere near my body. Thank you very much. And then, you know, Jason Nguyen blasts him with his face. He blasts a hole through him with his face. He's just. He gives him the old cyclops treatment. [00:33:27] Speaker A: The old Cyclops destroyer, any of those. He just zaps him. Zaps him good. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he does feel good. And then, you know, he's. He's standing above him, you know, given the old villain monologue. And he does a. And he turns his hand into just a spike of light, man. You just pray. [00:33:49] Speaker A: And you get a good view of him about to kill him with the no spawn belt buckle in full view. [00:33:55] Speaker B: Time's up, hellspawn. Oh, man. It's raining and lightninging and pretty dramatic. I like the sort of the physics of the raindrops that Greg Capullo has. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:34:14] Speaker B: There's no way that this is actually what raindrops look like in real life. But I like, I like how stylized they are. They're great. [00:34:21] Speaker A: No, it really sells it. And like, just like the action in these last few pages is excellent. Colors all come together to really tell the story. [00:34:33] Speaker B: I would be very happy if they were to announce another Greg Capullo Grant Morrison miniseries, Johnny in the year of our Lord 2024. Hell, yeah. [00:34:42] Speaker A: That'd be exciting. [00:34:43] Speaker B: It would be very exciting. It would be a little bit more wild, though, because Grant Morrison has started to do things a lot more based in philosophy and kind of being lost in, again, some sauce. [00:35:00] Speaker A: So I can see that fitting well on Spawn. He could be great philosophical. [00:35:05] Speaker B: I mean, that could be literally him standing on a beach for a whole issue. Just like it's spawn. It's the stranger. Only its spawn. [00:35:16] Speaker A: I mean, these Albert Spawn, these king spawns that Todd McFarlane has been writing, like, 29, 28. The one we'll cover today, 30. They were kind of like tone poems about. They're very melancholy tone poems about being alone and being spawned. So I could see that kind of. That kind of reminds me of that. [00:35:33] Speaker B: It's good flavor. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:36] Speaker B: The spawn umbrella is big enough to have all spawns. Yeah. [00:35:41] Speaker A: You can get a really action packed issue like this one here. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Like, we should. We should convince Thomas Healy to do an official spawn podcast and call it all spawns. Considered. [00:35:56] Speaker A: The official spawn podcast. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Look at it. Distribute. Distribute. Distributed by NPR. So I could listen to it in the morning. That would be great. I could be like, I know that guy. [00:36:07] Speaker A: Get Swan on NPR. That's our goal. [00:36:10] Speaker B: Do you ever, like, randomly, you're listening to the radio and you hear somebody that you know in real life, and it's like, ah, I know it's just a local story, but I know them occasionally. Yeah, it's real fun. [00:36:20] Speaker A: Tapped me a few times. [00:36:21] Speaker B: That's. There's no. There's no. To be continued, but we obviously. To be continued. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Obviously, to be better be continued. [00:36:29] Speaker B: It would be funny. This was the last. Something happens, and the timeline has changed, and this becomes the last issue of spawn. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Then he just dies. He'd just be dead. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Rip Albert Simmons again. [00:36:41] Speaker A: We cut. That's the end of the issue there. Leaving on that, we go to the image info, the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Twelve. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Yep. [00:36:52] Speaker A: Basically, he's like, holy shit. You guys send me a lot of letters. When I asked you what kind of spa merchandise you wanted. [00:37:00] Speaker B: He shouts out, guy. Richard White from Aurora, Aurora, Illinois. [00:37:05] Speaker A: I've been to Aurora a few times. [00:37:07] Speaker B: And says, by the way, do you know Wayne Campbell? [00:37:10] Speaker A: That's where they live in Wayne's World. [00:37:14] Speaker B: My name is Wayne Campbell. I live in Aurora, Illinois, which is a suburb of Chicago. Excellent. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been to Aurora a few times. I went out to see some shows. Our friend Bran was in some plays out there. [00:37:28] Speaker B: They were in Bubba Dubadubba. Not Babadook. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Babadook. [00:37:33] Speaker B: I said not Babadook the dude. Not dude, man show. I'm trying to think of the name of one of the shows they were in. [00:37:43] Speaker A: Brigadoon. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Brigadoon. [00:37:45] Speaker A: Brigadoon. That was in a different place, but yes. [00:37:48] Speaker B: Okay. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Brigadoon. They're out there in Aurora. They were in Miss Saigon, les mis, and cats. [00:37:56] Speaker B: Oh, nice, man. Fun story about cats. Co written by cocaine, probably. Oh, boy. Have we told the story on the podcast Johnny of Andrew Lloyd Webber being so upset by the cats movie that he had to buy himself a dog to console himself. [00:38:20] Speaker A: Aw, that movie wasn't that bad. There's some parts that are really bad. [00:38:25] Speaker B: But it was like, what have they done to my baby? I'm sorry. I need a dog. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Well, his cat deleted. He wrote half of the. This is a famous stories. He wrote half of, like, a sequel to fan of the opera that became eventually love never dies. But he had written half of it, and his cat walked across his keyboard and deleted it or something, and so he had to, like, start over. The cat was trying to save us from the awful musical love never dies. So is this sometimes called paint never dries? [00:38:54] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Well, I mean, I only know a couple of people who, who have actually seen it, and they're the big gung ho phantom people, and they very much enjoy it, so I. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:07] Speaker B: I will abstain from making any comments about it because, you know, I trust their judgment. All right. [00:39:14] Speaker A: It might be good. I don't know. Who knows? And we get all the little previews for the other image works, whole bunch of stuff. [00:39:22] Speaker B: Then we get a very cool double page artwork here of spawn fight and violator on a rooftop. [00:39:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I wish I knew who did it. [00:39:31] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. [00:39:32] Speaker A: We have no idea. [00:39:34] Speaker B: But it's real cool. It's real cool. [00:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I like it. It looks like a kind of an animated series look. [00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:40] Speaker A: And then we get to the fabled spawning grounds where everyone writes in and yells at Todd McFarlane. [00:39:47] Speaker B: This. This one is a wild ride, as. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Was all over the place. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Oh, boy. This first one from Jen Ludwig, though, he's. He is, he is not here for the Todd bashing, though. He's like, I don't fucking care if it's late, if it's good, keep doing it. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Well, I like that. I like that when he said, when people go through their comic collections ten or 20 years from now, they're going to pick up your comic and say, my God, these books are just awesome. They're not gonna say, man, this book came out two weeks late. He's right. [00:40:15] Speaker B: Well, they kind of say both, honestly, because everybody's like, and if you'll remember, in these, these first, these first comics, they were delayed. [00:40:23] Speaker A: I heard people do say that that guy did. That guy mentioned it on 350 days ago. I couldn't even do it monthly. [00:40:30] Speaker B: Something like that. Yeah, but, like, every time I see, see, like, a YouTube video where people are examining early spa, they're like, and, you know, they were delayed massively for a while. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:43] Speaker B: And that's, and then, you know, Todd replies with his, we now refer to it as almost monthly, which, to be fair, is something that they've kept with, you know, all the way through because we occasionally get those spawnless weeks and, you know, it just happens. I think it also, their commitment to making the story and putting it out on the story schedule versus making the story adapt to their schedule is just something that image has put together as a company, because, like, saga. Saga will do an arc over nine or ten months, and then they'll take, like, a year off, and then they'll do an arc again. It's, you know, it's, it's frustrating to some people because they're impatient, but I think it's great, you know, you gotta refresh those creative juices, Johnny. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah, you really do. [00:41:37] Speaker B: This next letter. [00:41:38] Speaker A: This next letter is crazy. It's like a manifesto. [00:41:41] Speaker B: It is in all caps. I like the commitment that they retyped it up for this issue and kept the all caps. [00:41:51] Speaker A: I was gonna read the whole thing. [00:41:53] Speaker B: Okay, do it. [00:41:54] Speaker A: I have a few points. I hope I get across to you. One, I think it is the funniest thing in the world that Peter David kicked your sorry butt. Two, you have absolutely no writing talent. Three, spawn sucks. Four, I still think it's funny that David kicked your butt. Five, you are a total jerk, demonstrated by the fact that you try to dominate image's other employees. You're hypocritical, and you just plain act like an ass. Six, thank you for your time. Sincerely, BPS. [00:42:26] Speaker B: And Todd's response is, you know, he has a few points. One, you and most everyone else in the room that day. Good. I'm glad I could bring some joy to people through my defeat. Two, thanks. And by the way, how many books have you sold? Ooh, sad. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Got them. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Three, save yourself the nightmare. Stop buying it. Hell yeah. Four, once again, merry Christmas to you and your family. Five. Yeah, I plead guilty to all those, but my life hasn't suffered that much from it. Six, thank you for your time. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Damn. [00:43:03] Speaker B: Oh, man. Savage retort, Johnny. And then, ps, he's just like, stop reading about me. Yeah. Ps, if beating your head against the wall makes it hurt, stop doing it. Stop reading about Todd and reading spawn, you have the power to change your own destiny. Only you can stop reading about me. That's true. I'd like to see now a smokey bear style PsA of Todd McFarlane going, only you can stop reading about me. [00:43:31] Speaker A: Well, what should be is talking. Only you can let people enjoy things and leave them alone if you don't like them. [00:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Like, I don't know, like, nerds on the Internet, mainly about video games, man. They're just, like, so bad about it sometimes and just, like, so intense about, like, no, this thing is bad, and you can't like it. And I'm gonna go in the communities of it and just tell you why it's bad. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah, they just can't leave it alone. Like, they have. [00:43:54] Speaker A: They can't leave it alone. [00:43:55] Speaker B: Just go away. Yeah, just. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Just, like, I mean, like, I love Diablo four. A lot of nerds hate Diablo four, and they will not all. A lot of the community spaces are taken over by people just hating on the game where I'm just like, I like this game. I'd rather just read nice things about it also. [00:44:11] Speaker B: I mean, not everything is for everybody all the time. If there's a franchise you like, but there is an entry into that franchise you don't like, guess what? How much more franchise is there? How. How many people absolutely love every bit of Star wars that's ever come out? Well, maybe me, because I very much like all Star wars, but I like. [00:44:31] Speaker A: Most all Star wars, but. [00:44:33] Speaker B: But it's. It's. [00:44:34] Speaker A: I actually came around on Rise of Skywalker. I watched it, and I was like, oh, better than I remember. [00:44:38] Speaker B: Nice. It's got that Cenobite iness at the end of it, but it's also like Star Trek. Anybody who's a big Star Trek fan knows that episode to episode, it could be the greatest thing ever put on television, and the next episode could be garbage. Bullshit. That should never have even been thought of, right? And you just have to deal with it. [00:44:59] Speaker A: It's just, like, people that take that think they're fans by just, like, actively trolling. It's just like, boo. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Boo. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Like that. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Like what you like, but don't be a jerk about it. Next letter. [00:45:14] Speaker A: This is a response. That one we read about the christian guy. [00:45:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And, you know, just more christian shit. Just. And the Todd's like, I wasn't looking to turn this letter column into a theological seminar, Craig. So that's. I think this is his way of. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Saying this guy was, like, offended, that. Well, he was offended. What is he. What he's offended by his evangelicalism? He doesn't agree with that conceit and. Yeah, so he's just like a different. He's probably like one of those hippy dippy Episcopalians or universal catholic lights. Yeah, one of those catholic lights. [00:45:49] Speaker B: Oh, no. Oh, Johnny. What if he's. What if he's an anglican? Oh, geez. Oh, no, that's too liberal for my tastes. [00:45:56] Speaker A: No. No way. [00:45:57] Speaker B: No offense. [00:45:58] Speaker A: The next letter. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Some cool Anglicans. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Yeah. The next letter is this kid who traded some sports cards for some fucking comic books one day, like he did in the nineties. You make wheels and deals. And he just got into. [00:46:14] Speaker B: He got into. [00:46:14] Speaker A: He got into spawn. But he has a question why he has to be such a jerk. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:19] Speaker A: He thinks he's an overconfident jerk. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's like. He's like, you say all these things about other people, and I don't like it. And Todd's just like, hey, man, I'm never gonna. I'm just gonna be. Straighten to the point and say what I think. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna tailor my responses to try to please everybody. I'm gonna say what I see. [00:46:41] Speaker A: Also, he says, these are hour long, like, interviews or, like, you know, talk backs at Comic Con. They're taking those controversial quotes out of them. Of course. [00:46:48] Speaker B: Of course. That's. That's how you. That's how you write an article, johnny. [00:46:51] Speaker A: That's how you do it. That's how, you know, you get up the good. [00:46:54] Speaker B: You would not believe the niceties that we have to cut out of this podcast to make it have enough dramatic tension to, I know, carry us through an hour and a half, and then we get the one from which the opening reading was in the response, and a guy congratulating Todd on spawn winning a whole bunch of stuff awards. And then. [00:47:21] Speaker A: Then he does the old switcheroo. [00:47:23] Speaker B: Another. Another reference to the. The religious letter and the spotting grounds of issue 15 and hates the homosexual advertisement from the back of issue ten, which I had to. [00:47:38] Speaker A: An ad for gay comics, right? [00:47:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I had to because I completely forgot about it. I know that we had talked about it at the time, but it's literally an ad for gay comics, and they actually look pretty groovy, I'm not gonna lie. Look at that. [00:47:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:47:52] Speaker B: Andy Mangles from Elfquest, and Jason goes to hell drew one of them. Craig Hamilton from Aquaman. Tony Harris. Nice. Tony Harris did that, that pinup in the back of a couple issues ago. The guy, he's also the guy who did the C three Po bander brothers. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you were talking about that. [00:48:10] Speaker B: Also, he's in some gay comics, and you know, the one, the. The name that everybody should know. Alison Bechdel, you know, creator. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Yes. So this. This letter is objecting to that ad in issue ten about the gay comics, which is what they're called. I'm not calling them gay comics. [00:48:27] Speaker B: No, no. The name is actually gay comics. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Was it comics with an x? [00:48:31] Speaker B: No comic. I see it. [00:48:33] Speaker A: Okay. I didn't know if it was, like, that level of, like, zine type thing or. [00:48:38] Speaker B: No, I. It wouldn't surprise me if at some point it was with an x. But, you know, if you want to get over the. The zine scene, you gotta get that. You gotta spell right. [00:48:50] Speaker A: Todd is very, uh, no shade to. [00:48:52] Speaker B: The zine scene, so. [00:48:54] Speaker A: No shade to the. No shade to the zine scene. This is like a song. Um. Oh, it's insane in the membrane. No shame to the zine. Zine. [00:49:03] Speaker B: No shame to the zine. [00:49:05] Speaker A: No shame. And Todd is a very awesome response to this guy who's mad about the gay comics ad and just, like, look, yeah, this is pretty progressive for 1994. [00:49:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:16] Speaker A: Put out in, like, a bro y comic. You know, that he's cool with. With homosexuality, and he's cool with gay folks. [00:49:24] Speaker B: And another Thomas. Another Thomas. Another Todd McFarlane. PSA. Gays. Okay. [00:49:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Thanks, Todd. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Oh, boy. The early nineties. Johnny Wild time. I'm honestly glad I don't remember it. Then. Then we get, you know, kind of a, this next letter, I was torn by this next letter, Johnny, because it kind of tries to have its cake and eat it too, where it's like, you know, understands that, you know, having an ad for gay comics in the back of spawn isn't going to make you gay and kind of, you know, letting the art be the art itself, but then, like, immediately is like, fucking kids with their. With their video games. Wait, was that this one? Yeah. Kids with their video games, and they're gonna. They're gonna not be part of the real world anymore. And video games are rotting their brains. And I was just like, ah, this. [00:50:28] Speaker A: Guy'S trying to be all philosophical and shit. He's like, look at the film titles such as last Action Hero. And we see these largely life heroes don't exist anymore. [00:50:42] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:50:43] Speaker A: They have no. They have no role models due to the recent increase in video games. [00:50:46] Speaker B: That's hilarious. Computer games are keeping children glued to their computer screens on their own rather than enjoying what the community has to offer them, such as scouting, parks, football, and, of course, hockey. [00:51:02] Speaker A: Everyone got mad at the guy who's the composer on the Mandalorian because he won the Oscar. And in his speech, he said, I'm glad. Thank you, mom, for buying me a keyboard and not video games. And all the nerds got so mad. [00:51:14] Speaker B: Well, I mean, if his mom had bought him video games, maybe he would have been a video game designer. He wouldn't have won an Oscar for it. I do. I do say the thing that I am most incensed about this letter, though. Johnny is, after all, spawner's a much better hero than Sonic the hedgehog. You shut your whore mouth, Peter. Sonic the hedgehog kicks ass. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:51:34] Speaker B: I love Sonic. Sonic. Sonic is emblematic of us adhd people, though. You just gotta go fast. [00:51:42] Speaker A: Just get through it. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Just gotta go fast. Love Sonic. [00:51:45] Speaker A: My nephews love Sonic. He's my younger nephew. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Fucking cool. How do they feel about knuckles? [00:51:50] Speaker A: Love knuckles. Knuckles is badass. They, like, freaked out in the second movie. [00:51:55] Speaker B: I'm excited for that Knuckles series. [00:51:57] Speaker A: They're excited for that. They're excited for. [00:51:59] Speaker B: I'm still amazed that they got Idris Elba to be the voice of knuckles. [00:52:04] Speaker A: I know. Well, so do you hear the rumors? What's shadow? The hedhog is going to be in the new one, but the rumors are Hayden Christensen's gonna play. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Oh, holy shit. He's gonna be the moodiest. The moodiest hedgehog who ever. Moody. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Pretty cool. [00:52:20] Speaker B: That's awesome, man. I like Al's response to this, because in todds, yeah, yeah, I saw the word Al. [00:52:31] Speaker A: But Al and Todd are very much. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Intertwined because Peter mentions the unhomed men, and Al's like, who the hell else is going to see Spawn as a hero? They're just going to immediately dismiss him as a youngblood, as they often do, and just be like, ah, he's just some bully in a cape. Whereas, you know, these guys live with him, and they've taken him in, and that's his family, pretty much. [00:52:56] Speaker A: We get the spawn, the image, fan art. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Yeah, we do a bunch of fun stuff. [00:53:00] Speaker A: You got a bunch of wildcats, Savage dragon, all that good stuff. [00:53:03] Speaker B: Get a nice little clown here. [00:53:06] Speaker A: Get one with spawn fighting Angela. [00:53:08] Speaker B: We get one spawn with glowing green hands and some violator eyes behind him. Pretty cool. [00:53:14] Speaker A: Good stuff. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Savage Dragon number eight. Advertisement the shit hits the fan in issue number eight, Johnny. [00:53:22] Speaker A: The shit hits the fan. Indeed it does. [00:53:26] Speaker B: A blood strike ad, which, if that's not motherfucking Wolverine, that's not, who the fuck is this? [00:53:32] Speaker A: I know this blood strike shit. I'm like, come on, man. That's fucking Wolverine. [00:53:36] Speaker B: That's fucking Wolverine. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Give me a break. Give me a break. We got an advert, wizard magazine. [00:53:44] Speaker B: So wizard magazine, this particular, so it advertises a Todd McFarlane Mark Frank Miller cover that famously has two moons on it. [00:53:58] Speaker A: Really? [00:53:59] Speaker B: And recently on one of those shit, what's it called? Comics. Kayfabe Ed Piscor had asked him about it, and apparently Frank Miller was just like, frank Miller got to go first on the page and did a moon. And Todd was like, but I want to draw a moon, so I want to draw a moon. So that's the story about why the COVID of Wizard 32 has two moons. [00:54:27] Speaker A: Nice. That's funny. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Pretty great. Pretty great. Sin City, a dame to kill for. Advertisement man. Then the back is the spawn Batman Miller McFarlane. March 94 Image comics. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Oh, I gotta see these two moons. This is a crazy looking cover. There are two moons. What the fuck? That's hilarious. It's a crazy ass cover on Wizard 32. [00:54:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. You can see what he's talking about with know, Frank Miller got to go first. So he chose, he chose the other. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Spot to put the moon the good. [00:55:03] Speaker B: He just, like, took up the good real estate, and so Todd had to go around him. Yeah, hilarious. [00:55:10] Speaker A: That's funny. And then you get on the back, you get this still the ad for the Batman spawn mashup in March 94. [00:55:19] Speaker B: Batman spawn mashup. Nice. It's girl talk before girl talk. [00:55:24] Speaker A: What you saw Mashup, whatever. Team up, crossover team up. You know what I meant? [00:55:30] Speaker B: I mean, they should make a spawn Batman mashup. I mean, somebody's probably, somebody's probably done that on the Instagram. We should look for it. [00:55:37] Speaker A: Spawn is already a spawn Batman mashup. He's got a clown villain already. Come on. They both got clown villains. [00:55:43] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:55:45] Speaker A: Got cop friends. [00:55:46] Speaker B: Yeah, they're both lonely. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:50] Speaker B: They both have a man who stays back and sits in the chair. Yeah, they both have. [00:55:56] Speaker A: Except Spawn didn't have a butler. That's what we learned in Batman. That spawn Batman 2022. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:56:03] Speaker A: Or 23. 23. 20. [00:56:06] Speaker B: No, it was 22. It was 22. [00:56:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it was 22. Spawn Batman 22. Because he was like, you have a butler? I live in an alley, motherfucker. [00:56:15] Speaker B: Yeah. What spot 17, Johnny Spawn 17. [00:56:20] Speaker A: Looking clean. All right, next up for our second issue today, we have got King Spawn 29. There's a lot of twos and nines on the COVID because it's 29 and it's 299. [00:56:48] Speaker B: Uh huh. [00:56:49] Speaker A: 29. 299. 29. 299. 299. [00:56:54] Speaker B: Kingspawn 299. And it cost $29, right? [00:56:58] Speaker A: No. One day maybe, maybe. [00:57:02] Speaker B: I don't know. You've got. You've got cover price. You can see what it is. [00:57:05] Speaker A: It's for $3. I guarantee you almost every single one of these modern spawns stays exactly at $3. [00:57:12] Speaker B: So it's kind of like Nintendo games, where they never. They never go lower than what they started as. [00:57:19] Speaker A: Exactly. Or higher. Nintendo games go higher sometimes. [00:57:24] Speaker B: Oh, mister Woo woo. [00:57:24] Speaker A: Mister Woo woo. [00:57:25] Speaker B: Did you get stuck? This is Mister Rufus. He doesn't know where the fuck he is, and he gets stuck all the time. He can't see, he can't hear. He can't really smell, but he fucking loves to eat. [00:57:36] Speaker A: That's good. Yeah, he's a good doggy. [00:57:38] Speaker B: King spawn 29. [00:57:41] Speaker A: 29. And worth it all the time. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. So we got to cover these covers. Johnny, what cover do you have? [00:57:49] Speaker A: I have the a cover, b cover right here. The Javi Fernandez. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Ooh, nice. I have the a cover, the sabatini. [00:57:56] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:57:58] Speaker B: I probably should have gotten that Fernandez cover. [00:58:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty cool. [00:58:02] Speaker B: Oh, why did I not pick that one up? [00:58:04] Speaker A: I don't know. He is, like, ripping out the violators. Look at. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Ripping out the violators heart or brain or something, man. [00:58:11] Speaker B: I'm a dummy. What the fuck was I thinking? Oh, this Sabatini cover is still pretty cool. He's got, like, his crown of thorns that are just like. [00:58:19] Speaker A: No, that's pretty cool. [00:58:20] Speaker B: Oh, I think this is. I think this. I think this is exactly why I picked this one up, Johnny. [00:58:24] Speaker A: Oh, because he's holding an invisible orange. [00:58:26] Speaker B: He's got his invisible oranges going on. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Gotta have it. No, this. This v cover, he's, like, killed a violator or fleabiac and is, like, ripping its brain, like, out of its head. [00:58:38] Speaker B: Nice. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Pretty intense. [00:58:41] Speaker B: So he's very much doing a. So it's basically Vinny and the. The last part of that. That violator miniseries where he gets his brain. Shut up. [00:58:51] Speaker A: Pretty much. Yeah. [00:58:52] Speaker B: Nice. [00:58:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all sinewy and gross and, like, just, like, blah. [00:58:57] Speaker B: It's awesome. Blah, blah, though. And it's Javi Fernandez. So, you know, it's gonna be, like, goopy. [00:59:01] Speaker A: Very goopy. Very goopy. [00:59:04] Speaker B: So let's crack this bad boy open, Johnny. All right, we got the credits here. We got script plot by Todd McFarlane, art by Javier Fernandez. You love to see it. Covers or color by Ivan Nunez, and world design doing the lettering. We covered the covers. Creative director Todd McFarlane. Editor in chief, Thomas Healy. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Whoo. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Nice. [00:59:26] Speaker A: So previously in King Spawn. Spawn is approaching the end of his deadly journey through the forbidden lands of hell itself. [00:59:37] Speaker B: The forbidden lands. [00:59:38] Speaker A: So this is from January 2024. It's leading up to 350. It's that little thing we talked about where they kind of squiggied. Yeah, the timelines, but made it meet up. So, like, basically, in King Spawn, if you were to read King Spawn, he got down through hell by talking to the oracle lady and went down through. [00:59:58] Speaker B: Like, the fucking old ass librarian. [01:00:00] Speaker A: The old ass librarian that sent him through the portal. That basically sent him through, like, a trial by fire of his own life. [01:00:06] Speaker B: Doesn't she literally shush him at one point? [01:00:09] Speaker A: I think she does. [01:00:09] Speaker B: I think she does. That's probably. [01:00:11] Speaker A: That's what they do. They shush you. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:13] Speaker A: So the librarian does. [01:00:14] Speaker B: Yeah, but in main title, spawn, he literally just, like, wanders, like, the scorched floor, fly away. And then he just, like, wanders to a staircase in the white, and he. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Sees Wanda, and he's like, oh, I'm. [01:00:25] Speaker B: Going over that way. [01:00:26] Speaker A: But this tells the story. Whichever way he meets up with Wanda, this is where you start to get the story of how. What they do here. So anyway, yeah, so it opens on Spawn's face, cut up into six different frames. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Nine. So it's like the classic nine panel. Six. I can't. I can't. It's like the classic nine panel comic book page, only it's all one. Just one image of Spahn's face. [01:00:55] Speaker A: Pretty cool. [01:00:56] Speaker B: It was supposed to be a simple shortcut, a way to save time. Instead, it's been a pathway that's done everything to try and slow him down. [01:01:04] Speaker A: And this is just. Spawn is unstoppable force, this issue. He's just, like, force of nature. [01:01:09] Speaker B: He's just, like, wandering through. It starts off with that. His symbiote starts trying to disobey him and starts going crazy. So. So the first page is just Spawn's face, and he's gritting his teeth. And then we open it, and it's a two page spread. And, like, the chains and the capes are going everywhere, and he's like, ah. [01:01:26] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, super badass. It's the Javi Fernandez art. It's just, like, epic. [01:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's. And then, like, the bottom is just, like, little panels of, like, the chains going, like, the little skulls are trying to leave his. His collar and his, you know, his belt buckle region. And then he has to. He has to, like, I'm your master. And, like, will it back to him, man. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like when my body does things I don't want it to do since I'm old. I'm your master. [01:01:59] Speaker B: It's like, what's his face in parks and rec, where he's like, stop pooping. But luckily, the costume obeys Johnny for now. But only for now. Only for now. But, yeah. So spawn is, he starts. He's got his uniform under control, and he starts hiking again through the wastelands of hell. And there's a nice little callback to the last issue about the barrage of threats and all of the. The weight he was previously dragging the. [01:02:38] Speaker A: 50 ton carcass he was carrying. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So he's not got that. So his burden's lifted a little, but it's not really. No relief has been given to him because, you know, he's in hell. He'd like to stop and rest for a minute. Johnny, let me tell you, that sounds pretty nice to me, honestly. Let's take a quick fiverr. I'll, uh, just. Just. [01:03:00] Speaker A: No. Like, the vines in this issue, I pull you back into the podcast. You must continue to podcast. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but he can't. Hell, won't let him. Johnny, you're hell. You won't let me? [01:03:09] Speaker A: No, you won't. No napping. I suck you back in. [01:03:12] Speaker B: Yeah, these. These vines just attack his head and just, like, pull him under, and it's like, ah, it's very, oh, there's some franchise that we talk about a lot where there's this happens. Somebody gets pulled under something. [01:03:27] Speaker A: The mummy. [01:03:29] Speaker B: I think it might be the mummy. Yeah, it is the mummy, because he gets pulled under the sand and then. And then, like, somebody comes by and is like, huh? And then leaves, and then the next thing you know is, aha. [01:03:43] Speaker A: Ah, I guess. Is it maybe Boba Fett? Is it Boba Fett where he climbs out of the sarlacc? [01:03:52] Speaker B: Well, that's not in, like, the same. The same thing. [01:03:57] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:03:58] Speaker B: Or it's. [01:03:59] Speaker A: Yeah, we get sucked under. [01:04:00] Speaker B: It's like a. It's like a quicksand pit. Okay, what is it? What fucking is it? If you happen to know what the hell it is I'm thinking of, please email us at regarding spawnpodmail.com. [01:04:11] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:04:12] Speaker B: We're gonna look at that email, and we're gonna be like, what the fuck does this mean? But please let us know. I'd like to, because it's obviously somebody diving into quicksand to save somebody, and they've, like, tied a vine around their waist. Oh, oh, oh. It's the princess bride. [01:04:31] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [01:04:32] Speaker B: Because then an R O U s comes over and looks at the sand pit and is like. And then wanders away. And then. And then the dread prior pops back out. Okay, never mind. Please rescind. No, send us an email. Just tell us that it was the princess bride. We'll be happy. Yeah. [01:04:50] Speaker A: These vines suck him under into the sunken place from. Get out. [01:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he's just. His body is still up there, just like, crying, drinking, drinking tea. [01:05:01] Speaker A: No, but he gets sucked down underneath the ground. It's like this big, dark, crazy thing of vines. [01:05:08] Speaker B: And then you think all is lost. Yeah, and it says. It says it has no qualm killing one of its own. Unless the thing it wants to kill fights back. And then Al Simmons just scowls out of the ground, you know, a la, you know, dread pirate Roberts with princess what's her face? Or is she a princess? [01:05:28] Speaker A: Or the bride and kill Bill. She punches her way out of the ground. [01:05:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, with the. [01:05:34] Speaker A: Yep. [01:05:35] Speaker B: With the two inch punch. Is that what it's called, the three inch punch? [01:05:38] Speaker A: Something like that, yeah. [01:05:40] Speaker B: Spawn realizes why things keep attacking him, and it's because the glowing green of his eyes, that light, is bringing things to him. So. So now not only does he have to just wander tirelessly through hell, but now he has to do it blindfolded. Johnny, can you imagine? I don't even think I could walk around my house blindfolded, folded, and not kill myself. I would fall down the stairs or, like, trip over a dog or something. [01:06:09] Speaker A: He's like Neo at the end of the matrix. [01:06:11] Speaker B: Here, show them. You embrace navigating. [01:06:14] Speaker A: That's like a. That's like a. It's like a trope, right? Like the hero going. The blind. The blind hero. [01:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, kind of. Because it's, you know, the. Having to compensate for the loss of an easy thing. You know, they're having to do it the harder way, and then yet they somehow are almost even better. With. With their handicap. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Yes. Neo is blinded in. [01:06:37] Speaker B: It's overcoming an obstacle or something like that, right? [01:06:41] Speaker A: In the original draft, the duel of the face draft of Rise of Skywalker, Rey is blinded in the third act, but she gets her sight back as she dies, and they bring her back like Harry Potter. But that was just in the draft, one that was never made. Do you know it was called that? Did you know that? [01:07:01] Speaker B: No, I didn't know that. [01:07:02] Speaker A: The original Colin Trevorrow's draft, which you can find online, it's actually a pretty good screenplay for episode nine, was called Duel of the Fates was the name of the movie. [01:07:11] Speaker B: Oh, you had me read that once, and I remember it being very interesting. There was lot more. There was a lot more lightsaber fiddlin in it. Like, not lightsaber fighting, but, like, fiddlin. [01:07:23] Speaker A: A lot of lightsaber fiddlin. [01:07:25] Speaker B: I remember that. I remember being like, oh, that would have been fucking awesome. [01:07:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it seemed pretty cool. It was a good script. But, yeah, he goes blind, and he is walking, and he gets this. He gets to this part in the path where there's this giant wolf, but, like, behind him, there's a whole bunch of insects. Insects? Yeah, the insects have started to gather, and this. [01:07:46] Speaker B: And then this wolf that blocks his path that he can't see. You know, it's got glowing eyes, it's got smoke coming out of its mouth. It starts charging him, Johnny. And, well, the next thing you know, the insects are like our king to our king. [01:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah, the insects want him as the king, which is great. These are the ice shrimp, maybe. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. [01:08:06] Speaker A: Maybe there's some ice shrimp in there. Yeah, these insects are like we wait for do savior. So we're gonna kill you, wolf. [01:08:11] Speaker B: I mean, we kind of. We kind of skipped over the fact that, like, Al Simmons could. He could, like, sense that these. This group was amassing behind him, and he was just waiting for it to attack, but it never did. It just followed him around. [01:08:25] Speaker A: They save him from the wolf man thing. [01:08:28] Speaker B: They just absolutely devour him. And I like this one panel that's just got this one that's flying. Flying away with an eyeball in its hands. [01:08:33] Speaker A: I think that's the eye shrimp. It's the eye shrimp. [01:08:36] Speaker B: Oh, man. [01:08:38] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a. It's fucking a little weird. Hell bug flying away with the eyeball. [01:08:41] Speaker B: It's hilarious. [01:08:43] Speaker A: This thing looks like the bear from annihilation. [01:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. You know, Al just. You know, he's like, okay, well, I guess I'll keep walking. And then another group of masses, and it's a whole bunch of bats. And he's like, oh, no, these bats are gonna stop me. But he doesn't realize that, you know, if you can't see anything and you feel a whole bunch of bats just, like, swooping down by your face, you're gonna be like. [01:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah, you gonna. That's good. The leatheriness of the wings. That's gotta be a win. [01:09:10] Speaker B: Yeah, they're trying. They're trying to grab his. Grab him and gave him the heebie jeebies. David, Wanda was hit by a bat in the Sarah Tian center at Oklahoma State once. [01:09:21] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:09:22] Speaker B: In the face. So somebody bought her a little Halloween decoration that was, like, bat crossing or something like that as a thing to defend herself with. [01:09:31] Speaker A: Oh, hilarious. [01:09:32] Speaker B: So Wanda does not like bats. [01:09:34] Speaker A: I bet not. I get hit in the face of the bat. I wouldn't be a fan either. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Yeah, but so they're. They're trying to save him. Like, they're trying to grab hold of him so he doesn't fall off this cliff. But since Al's freaking out, he like, just like, he. Like Tom Cruise. In the most recent mission impossibles, it just right off the edge there. [01:09:55] Speaker A: This goes right off the cliff. [01:09:57] Speaker B: No motorcycle, though, said, yeah. [01:09:59] Speaker A: What happened to those? I've asked before, but was there a net to catch the motorcycle? They just explode? [01:10:04] Speaker B: I don't know. Well, we pondered, but we haven't come up with an answer yet. [01:10:09] Speaker A: If I ever meet Tom Cruise that's gonna ask, what happened? All the motorcycles do. They just fall and explode? [01:10:14] Speaker B: He's gonna be like. That's your question? Actually, he would probably come up with a very good. A decent ambulance. [01:10:19] Speaker A: If you get very serious, be like, John, we took very much care to catch every single motorcycle. Like, you know, you get super intense about it and be like, we caught every single one. [01:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:30] Speaker A: There's no waste of motorcycles, but, yeah, spawn gets wasted with these bats, but they're helping him. [01:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And so trying to save him, he falls. He falls off the edge of this cliff and just, like, booms right into the ground. [01:10:43] Speaker A: And it's just like he loses his bandana. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Falls off because he descends nearly a quarter mile. Johnny, could you imagine hitting the ground after falling a quarter of a mile? I think you would be goop. [01:10:58] Speaker A: I'd be goop. But Spawn is just kind of hurt. [01:11:02] Speaker B: Yeah, he's been broken, Johnny. And he just kind of, like, passes out. And then we get a shadowy figure that approaches from the distance. [01:11:15] Speaker A: And it's Wanda. [01:11:16] Speaker B: It's Wanda. You've earned your moment of peace, sweetheart. It's my turn to help. And she just, like, picks him up like a baby. And, you know, we learned Terry would be very. [01:11:27] Speaker A: If I was Terry, I'd be pissed off. She gives a little kiss on the cheek. [01:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:32] Speaker A: Picks him up like a baby. [01:11:33] Speaker B: Well, kiss on the forehead. Kiss on the forehead there. [01:11:35] Speaker A: Oh, kiss on the forehead. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Okay. [01:11:37] Speaker A: Yeah. It's hard to tell that the spawn knows. [01:11:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And here's where we learned that, you know, every. Every health spawn with a symbiote weighs over 600 pounds, and Wanda's just carrying him like he's a loaf of bread. [01:11:52] Speaker A: Yep. Just picks him right up. That's those heaven powers. [01:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And so we get a nice little panels of, like, different environs in hell. And then just like, wanda, just, like, across them all, walking through it. Yeah, it's great. Great. Little. Just that. That mid action shot of her walking. Like she's got her back arched. She's just got. Man, Javi Fernandez, he does a great job of the movement, even in still shots. [01:12:26] Speaker A: And these landscapes are hella cool, too. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah, they are. There's like a waterfall that goes up or some shit. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like some crazy sand waterfall that goes. Yeah, it's wild. [01:12:37] Speaker B: And then after a while. After a while, even though Wanda is proven herself very capable here, you know, even she gets tired. And then she's. She's sitting there and she's like, can't fall asleep. Can't fall asleep. Who will protect us if I fall asleep? And then she succumbs to her sleep, and then as she falls asleep, Spahn covers her in his cape like a blanket and stands watch. [01:13:05] Speaker A: His chains are, like, protecting her. Wow, man. Kind of a good analogy for a relationship. Sometimes you gotta carry. Sometimes you gotta be the carried one. And sometimes you gotta carry. And sometimes you gotta be the sleepy one. And sometimes you gotta be the one that's doing stuff. [01:13:21] Speaker B: For a very sputty metaphor here, Johnny. Sometimes you gotta know when to hold them and know when to fall. [01:13:28] Speaker A: That's true. [01:13:31] Speaker B: Being a gambler is the exact same thing as being in a long term relationship, Johnny. You learned it here first. [01:13:39] Speaker A: It's the exact same. No, it's just. It's touching. [01:13:43] Speaker B: It's a give and take. It's a partnership. A little tit for tat. [01:13:47] Speaker A: There's a sadness to all this. Cause we know they won't be together. And the sadness of the whole Wanda and Swan thing. [01:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Also, it took him being in, like, the deepest, darkest, most remote part of hell again, for him to see her. [01:14:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:02] Speaker B: So. [01:14:02] Speaker A: Which sucks. [01:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah. But I know this touching little. Then we get a spawning grounds. Presents fan art. Oh, there's some good fan art here, Johnny. [01:14:14] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. This really cool stuff. The model one is really awesome. [01:14:18] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [01:14:19] Speaker A: And I love, like, the. I like this Sergeant Cermenko. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That one's super awesome. It looks. It's very much like a. It looks like it was designed for a shirt because it's got. That's. I would wear a shirt with that on it. The one in the upper middle. The hero icar 367. [01:14:43] Speaker A: Yes. [01:14:44] Speaker B: I like how it looks like he found the motor head chains because. Cause the chains are shooting, but the skulls are on the end of them. [01:14:51] Speaker A: Yeah, those are cool. [01:14:52] Speaker B: It definitely looks super awesome. [01:14:54] Speaker A: More Jordan Noir there. [01:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah, more Jordan Noir. Who we know. It's art by Martin. Hey, all our friends are on here. It's art by Martin is one of the winners. Recipients, yes. Winners of sponuary. So shout out to him again, just cause, you know, long running friend of the show. Uh, we can't tag him, but we can talk about him. [01:15:17] Speaker A: It's true. [01:15:18] Speaker B: Uh, this one in the very middle is very, very spooky because it's just, like, skeletal spawn. [01:15:24] Speaker A: He's got little green orbs, though. [01:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, indeed. Uh, this one in the middle, on the bottom, uh, he's got super awesome nineties pistol there. Yeah, yeah. [01:15:34] Speaker A: Always fun. [01:15:35] Speaker B: Some real good fan art. Need more sponsor universe, Johnny. [01:15:38] Speaker A: Don't miss these ongoing titles. And we get ads for the January 2024 titles. [01:15:43] Speaker B: This. This page is soon going to be so just ridiculously hard to navigate because everything. [01:15:49] Speaker A: I know. How many. How many titles gonna have on it? Oh, my God. [01:15:52] Speaker B: Like, they'll have to say either the titles or have, like, small thumbnails of the books. Not both. I'll be interested to see how they change this page to keep up with all the ongoing stuff. Yeah. [01:16:03] Speaker A: Or if they'll do, like, a separate ad for, like, the miniseries. I'm not sure. We'll see. [01:16:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Who knows? Monstrous ad there as it has been. And then the who we presume is ninja Spawn on the ad. [01:16:16] Speaker A: I don't think it's ninja Spawn, though. [01:16:17] Speaker B: I don't think it is either. [01:16:19] Speaker A: Who is it? [01:16:20] Speaker B: Cause ninja Spawn has, like, rags on his head. [01:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I have no idea. [01:16:24] Speaker B: I don't know. Okay. [01:16:26] Speaker A: I'll find out before next one. [01:16:27] Speaker B: Okay. He won't be there for the next one. [01:16:31] Speaker A: He won't be there of course, he'll be gone with our luck. [01:16:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's spawn number or king Spawn number 29. Johnny. It's pretty good. [01:16:39] Speaker A: King Spawn 29. Good time. [01:16:42] Speaker B: And, you know, we come to one of the best parts of the show, Johnny. Yeah, we got some puppies here that we gotta rate. [01:16:52] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies. [01:16:53] Speaker B: Time to rate the puppies. [01:16:56] Speaker A: So, yeah, we got two issues of spawn. First up was 17, continuing that Grant Capullo, Grant Morrison. Little run here that we got in the nineties. I mean, what can I say? It starts with malbolgia and ends with anti spawn. It's got everything. [01:17:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:13] Speaker A: The only thing it's missing is some Sam and twitch action. Really? [01:17:15] Speaker B: For real? They've been suspiciously absent during this little arc, but, I mean, it would be kind of hard to shoe horn them in since they're. [01:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it's true. We do miss them, though. No, I think this issue is a lot of fun. Just a great fight. It's great to, like, have, like, a new enemy for spawn. I'm sure at the time it was super exciting, because he really only had the violator. [01:17:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:36] Speaker A: And, like, this was just another, like, new enemy. It's like the anti spawn has arrived. [01:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:43] Speaker A: Really good action. Great. Capullo is a worthy successor, of course, to Todd McFarlane, obviously. But I'm sure at this point, he's getting a lot of shit to be like, oh, he's taking this book over, and he did a great job with it. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Oh, he did a fantastic job. [01:17:56] Speaker A: So, yeah, I love it. Um, propulsive action, great dialogue. [01:18:03] Speaker B: Great. [01:18:03] Speaker A: Like, inner monologue with spawn. [01:18:05] Speaker B: Uh huh. [01:18:06] Speaker A: I'm gonna give it. I'm going to give it five. No spawn belt buckles. [01:18:13] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. This is your brain on spawn, Joni. [01:18:16] Speaker A: This is your brain on anti spawn. [01:18:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I agree with everything you've said. It's just, this is a great book. This is. This is a great little arc. I'm gonna be sad to see it go, but, you know, Greg Capullo will keep going on. I know that getting into the twenties and the thirties there, we've got some great. Some great stuff to look forward to. But right now, it's great. I am also gonna give it five. I'm gonna give it five. Mal Bolges holding the world in his hands. [01:18:43] Speaker A: He got the whole world in his hands. That Malbolsha sure does. Just like my heart. [01:18:50] Speaker B: Your heart's. [01:18:50] Speaker A: The heart belongs. My heart belongs to Mal bullsia. [01:18:53] Speaker B: You left your heart in the Malbols, Johnny. [01:18:56] Speaker A: I left my heart in the Mal bulge. [01:18:59] Speaker B: Then we got king spawn number 29, Johnny. And it is. [01:19:04] Speaker A: Speaking of that, I'm gonna say it on mic because I can hold myself to it. I'm gonna start doing the Malbolge Monday again, and I'm gonna do it every week. [01:19:10] Speaker B: Okay, awesome. [01:19:11] Speaker A: You don't believe me? [01:19:12] Speaker B: No, I do believe you. [01:19:13] Speaker A: I'm gonna start it Monday. I'm saying it on Mike. [01:19:16] Speaker B: It's just that that means that I also have to get back to my quick reviews. I know. [01:19:19] Speaker A: We gotta. We're getting lazy, David. [01:19:21] Speaker B: Johnny, we gotta stop being lazy. We got shit to do. We got. We gotta do this shit. [01:19:27] Speaker A: We gotta do this shit. We gotta. We gotta review Kingspawn 29. We gotta give it a score. [01:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we do. [01:19:31] Speaker A: So, like, this is like one of those spawn tone poems that the Todd MacFarlane did on the Todd McFarther. Todd McFather. This is one of those, like, tone poem issues that the Todd father's been doing for, like, the last kind of bridging king spawn to getting to the throne. [01:19:50] Speaker B: He's in his Allen Ginsburg era, is what you're saying. [01:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah, because they're just like. Each one's like. Like kind of this little, like, mythical tale, like almost biblical, like. There's the one where he's carrying the 50 ton creature. There's the one. There's this one where he goes blind. He goes, zatu ichi, and then he gets picked up by his wife, and she carries him, and then he protects her. All this grand myth making kind of allegory to it. [01:20:15] Speaker B: It's almost a stations of the cross style or deal. [01:20:18] Speaker A: It's very much like a suffering. Yes. Stage of the cross. Good way to put it. [01:20:22] Speaker B: Reminds me of that station of the spas. [01:20:25] Speaker A: What a good catholic you are. [01:20:27] Speaker B: I don't know how to shoehorn spawn into that. It could be the sposhes. [01:20:31] Speaker A: Stations of the cross. In Catholic. It's Catholicism, right? [01:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:20:34] Speaker A: It's not just an episcopal thing. Okay. [01:20:35] Speaker B: No, yeah, they got it. They got it in. [01:20:37] Speaker A: Yeah. We ripped that off from you. [01:20:40] Speaker B: You owe us money. Wait, what? [01:20:45] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's like this little tone poem. I liked it. Not exactly what I come to king spawn for. I'm excited to get back into more of the street level kind of like. [01:20:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:20:56] Speaker A: Stuff. I mean, these. These were cool. I liked. I liked the Todd. What the Todd. Todd McFarland did with him. The Todd. The Todd McFarlane. Oh, my God. I'm just stumbling over my tods today. [01:21:08] Speaker B: You better make sure there's no tods between you and work on your way out or you're gonna be falling on your facewalk. [01:21:15] Speaker A: I would give this issue four hell bug revolutionaries. Cause the hell bugs want King Swan on the throne. So I'm gonna give it four hell bug revolutionary hell bugs. [01:21:26] Speaker B: Nice. Are you gonna give a specifically any specific revolutionary hair bugs or just the. [01:21:33] Speaker A: Ice shrimp that's flying away with the eyeball? [01:21:35] Speaker B: Okay, awesome. [01:21:36] Speaker A: Four ice shrimp flying away with the eyeball. [01:21:39] Speaker B: Nice. I agree with you. I think the tone poeminess, the kind of here's a portrayal of the suffering Al Simmons is going through is dope. The art is fucking incredible. But it is also very much. It doesn't scream king spawn to me. [01:22:01] Speaker A: Right. So that's kind of how I felt about it. [01:22:03] Speaker B: But it is still really good. And I'm gonna give it four annihilation bears screaming in. [01:22:10] Speaker A: Screaming at Natalie Boardman. [01:22:11] Speaker B: Who would. Who would it. Whose voice would it. Oh, I guess it's whoever. It kills last's voice, right? [01:22:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Well. Cause they're like whoever became a part of it, right? Cause they're like melding in with it. Yeah. Creepy fucking people. [01:22:24] Speaker B: People on the Internet don't think that bear was scary. Those people don't know what scary is. [01:22:29] Speaker A: Yeah, they really don't. Everyone I talked to thought it was scary. [01:22:31] Speaker B: That movie. That movie scared that poop out of me. [01:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah, annihilation was good. [01:22:36] Speaker B: I enjoyed it. [01:22:37] Speaker A: He's got a new movie coming out, Alex Garland. He's got Civil War, a 24 movie about a modern civil war. Let's go. [01:22:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure it's really, really uplifting. I'm sure it's. I'm sure it's the most escapist fantasy we've ever seen, Johnny. [01:22:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I know. Oh, boy. Well, speaking of escapist fantasies, one of my favorite things to do when I'm feeling down is a little retail therapy. [01:23:06] Speaker B: Ooh. Yeah. [01:23:07] Speaker A: And there was something we bought quite a bit ago. [01:23:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:23:11] Speaker A: A lot coming up on a year or maybe more or I don't know when we got them, but it was a while ago. [01:23:16] Speaker B: It was some time. [01:23:17] Speaker A: But we have a couple of things to open on. A special edition of Todd's Toy tock. [01:23:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we got the good old fashioned double Todds toy talk going on. [01:23:39] Speaker A: It's the double Tod's toy, Todd. Cause we each got the toy and what we got for you. I feel like I'm Tommy farl on instagram. What we got for you is we got two figures you get a comic book, you get it all together. It looks nice. You get your two action figures here? Yeah, we're doing. We got the page punchers. Yeah, we got the spawn and anti spawn page puncher action figures. We figured it'd be a perfect episode to open them up on Mike. Yeah, because we got the anti spawn. [01:24:07] Speaker B: First off, Johnny, I'm a little upset that the belt buckle isn't the no spawn symbol, but. [01:24:12] Speaker A: Oh, it's just a cross. Oh, my God. Send it back. [01:24:15] Speaker B: But it does have the flowing purple cape, so I'm still here for it. [01:24:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's the classic anti spawn colors, so. [01:24:22] Speaker B: Pretty cool. Yeah, indeed. Well, Johnny, these guys have been waiting to escape for, like you said, almost a year. We should probably just bust right into it. [01:24:31] Speaker A: Let's bust right into it. All right. These are the page punchers, if you're not familiar. That's the line. That's just, like, the smaller scale action figures. [01:24:37] Speaker B: Uh huh. Three inches. I do believe they are. [01:24:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So we're popping it open here. And a lot of tape. [01:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:47] Speaker A: Where did you get yours? I got mine on GameStop, I think. [01:24:49] Speaker B: I think I got mine from target. Calm target, that. [01:24:54] Speaker A: Calm target. Calm target. [01:24:58] Speaker B: It's got, like, this. [01:24:59] Speaker A: It's got, like. [01:25:01] Speaker B: It's got this, like, resealable clamshell. [01:25:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it does. You, like, put it all back if you want. [01:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:07] Speaker A: So let's see. What is this comic it came with? Is this issue one? Looks like issue one. [01:25:11] Speaker B: It looks like issue one. Let's see. [01:25:14] Speaker A: But did they, like, switch it up? [01:25:16] Speaker B: It is. You want issue one? Let's see what kind of back matter it's got. [01:25:22] Speaker A: Just watch your ads and stuff for the dragons and different figures. That's cool. [01:25:26] Speaker B: Shop McFarland, toy story.com. 15% off entire purchase. Use this code. Nice. [01:25:34] Speaker A: Nice. Yeah. So you get the first issue of spawn. [01:25:38] Speaker B: Reprinted, McFarland's dragons. Nice. [01:25:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that's pretty cool. And then to the main event. [01:25:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna get this Alcanto first. They come out so easy. They're not tied in there or nothing. [01:25:57] Speaker A: Oh, man, look at this little spawn. Look at this little spawn he's got. [01:26:02] Speaker B: And specifically here, the thing that I am. I am very excited about is that his small right foot spawn. Yep. I was holding off on my first spawn. Al Simmons spawn action figure purchase. To get a small right foot spawn. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Here you go. [01:26:19] Speaker B: Here. Here we go. And then we got Jason Nguyen antispawn here. Oh, boy. [01:26:24] Speaker A: Pop him out. Oh, yeah, I got that purple cape. [01:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got. That his little head can move around. They've got. They've got few points of articulation, but that's fine, Johnny. I kind of wish we had opened these earlier. So that way, as we were talking about their fight, we could have been like. [01:26:46] Speaker A: And he went, bam. He went, bam. He was wrong. [01:26:49] Speaker B: And he hit spawn like this. Zah. And Spawn went. [01:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah, these are awesome. They're so cool. They're so little. [01:26:58] Speaker B: They're so great. Limited pose ability, but, hey, that's. [01:27:03] Speaker A: That's okay. [01:27:04] Speaker B: And now. Now you have absolutely no reason to not play with them, because, I mean, nothing's really gonna fall off of them. [01:27:12] Speaker A: You can put it back in the clamshell if you want. Yeah, it's like a clamshell package. You just pack them back in there if you wanted to. [01:27:19] Speaker B: Yeah. They're super cool little guys. They're very detailed for being so small. [01:27:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:24] Speaker B: Like. Like Al Simmons. His legs. Like, you can see all the. All the muscle fibers in his. And his legs now. [01:27:35] Speaker A: They always get in the detail. [01:27:37] Speaker B: You can see all his ribs, his pouches. And this is. This is, you know, this is canonical Johnny, that the becoming anti spawn got rid of the Steven Seagal belly on Jason Wynn. [01:27:52] Speaker A: So it is cool. [01:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:27:57] Speaker A: And, like, they got these. They got the gunslinger page punchers with. They've got. With Auger. They've got a Jessica priest one now with freak, I think. [01:28:08] Speaker B: Don't they have another one too? I thought there was. Yeah. [01:28:11] Speaker A: Isn't there another one? [01:28:12] Speaker B: I think there's another one. [01:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Because there's one with curse or free or haunt. [01:28:18] Speaker B: No. [01:28:18] Speaker A: Haunt. No. I don't remember. [01:28:21] Speaker B: We could look it up, but I'm too lazy. I've got toys to play with, Johnny. I can't be looking up on the Internet. So that's. That's Todd's toy tech. [01:28:30] Speaker A: Hey, and if you want to. You want to look some stuff up on the Internet, why don't you look up some friends? [01:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Hell, yeah. [01:28:36] Speaker A: Each week, we like to give a shout out to someone in the sponstagram community. And this week, we wanted to give a shout out to one of the folks who was featured in the spawning ground of Kingspawn 29. [01:28:48] Speaker B: Yes, we do. [01:28:49] Speaker A: And that is Sergeant Cermenko. I will put the link in the episode description and in the Instagram post for the episode. But he's got. He's the one that did the spawn thing that kind of looks like a t shirt or would be perfect to be a t shirt. And he's got a lot of really cool stuff. Like, just a couple spawn things, but just, like Toxie, Michael Myers, the Predator, Hellboy, Chucky. Just all the favorite things. [01:29:14] Speaker B: Yep. Yep, indeed. So good. [01:29:17] Speaker A: And they're all kind of, like, metal esque. Like, they all look like they'd be, like, on a metal poster for a metal band, kind of. [01:29:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Or just a shit ton of shit ton of t shirts. [01:29:28] Speaker A: Yep. She says it's on a badass t shirts. He's got a couple swan things. That's pretty cool. Yeah, this was Star wars cal kestis right there. Give that a like. Sweet. [01:29:40] Speaker B: Now. [01:29:40] Speaker A: Pretty cool. [01:29:41] Speaker B: It's got a vampirella there. [01:29:43] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:29:44] Speaker B: Vampy's awesome. I like that. [01:29:46] Speaker A: Yeah, but David likes that one. [01:29:47] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Bonk. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Cool. Pretty great stuff. [01:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:52] Speaker A: Give him a follow. Sergeant Cermenko on Instagram. While you're on Instagram, make sure to give us a follow. We are regarding spawn podcast. Always posting fun stuff. I just swore I'm gonna post more Malbulch Mondays, so get ready for that. [01:30:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Hell yeah. [01:30:06] Speaker A: Hell yeah. David's gonna be posting more of those episode review, the issue reviews. [01:30:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I've been lazy. I'm sorry. [01:30:12] Speaker A: That's okay. It's not lazy. It's just we got stuff going on. You know, it comes in waves. [01:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:17] Speaker A: You know, it comes in ways. We do what we can, and we am what we am. I am what I am, and I do what I can. [01:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah. We're now gonna be a Popeye podcast, so we're gonna do nothing but watch the Robert Altman Popeye starring Robin Williams over and over again. No, I turned that on on Pluto tv when my mom and my sister were up here, and Wanda spent the whole time just being like, oh, God, what? Why? And then my sister and I just laughed at it while my mom was like, isn't there something we can do? Isn't there, like, some chore we can do? Why are we sitting down? Can't we clean something? [01:30:58] Speaker A: Can we do anything? No, you watch Popeye. [01:31:01] Speaker B: It was great. Also, while you're over on Instagram, don't forget that one of the reasons we sound so good is because we got that Brian Voyles. Music. Brian Voyles, 27. The maestro of the Mal bulge. [01:31:14] Speaker A: The maestro of the Malboulge. Also, if you want to hit us up besides instagram, you can hit us [email protected]. Dot. If you send it okay to print or okay to read, we will read your letter on air. [01:31:25] Speaker B: Indeed. Indeed. [01:31:26] Speaker A: And if you send us your address, we'll send you some stickers. [01:31:28] Speaker B: We will do that. We've got a lot of stickers to give away. [01:31:31] Speaker A: Each week, I like to ask a question to kind of spur some thoughts. This week, I wanted to ask, what is your favorite of the page punchers? [01:31:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:39] Speaker A: Is it the one we can't think of? Is it gunslinger? [01:31:42] Speaker B: It's gonna be great. [01:31:43] Speaker A: Is it Jessica priest? Is it the one we just opened? [01:31:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:47] Speaker A: With the anti spawn? [01:31:48] Speaker B: I could tell you for a fact that my favorite is the one we just opened. [01:31:52] Speaker A: I know you've been excited about this for a while. I don't know. I really like the spawn. I think this might be my favorite. I think I like the classic spawn a little better than the gunslinger, but they're both good. I just don't. I don't know. Auger, he burned brightly. He was out too quick. I don't know much about augur. [01:32:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember being very excited when we got it, because I was like, man, we have to hold onto those until we get to that grant Morrison anti spawn run, and then just. We're here, and being like, man, that's just, like, so far away. It was. We made it. What a long, strange trip it's been, Johnny. [01:32:21] Speaker A: Indeed it has been. [01:32:22] Speaker B: Speaking of making it, Johnny, and speaking of long, strange trips, we're going to need y'all to make a long, strange trip to Chicago. [01:32:30] Speaker A: That's true. [01:32:30] Speaker B: For c two. E two. We are. We're going to be there. We're going to do a live show. We're going to be going over. Spawn kills everyone. The original one shot from 2016. Our show is officially Friday, April 26, at 515. I would tell you the room number, but the room number is subject to change. So just keep an eye on the little schedule there. And, hey, come see us. We'd love to have you. [01:32:55] Speaker A: Absolutely, absolutely. And what we'd also love to have is another episode. [01:33:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:00] Speaker A: So that means that we got to read some more spawn, I believe. [01:33:03] Speaker B: But, Johnny, don't you remember that 17 was the last issue of Spawn ever produced? Oh, yeah. [01:33:08] Speaker A: He just died at the hands of anti spawn, and that was it. [01:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, we got nothing to read, so we're gonna have to do Spider man, so. Okay, we're gonna. Spider man. [01:33:16] Speaker A: Amazing Spiderman number one. Where's that little wallflower? Peter Parker. That's how it starts. No, no, there is more spawn. We're doing spawn 18. [01:33:26] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:33:27] Speaker A: The final of this three parter from part three of Grant Morrison. [01:33:32] Speaker B: It's gonna be. [01:33:33] Speaker A: And then we've got another issue, which is gunslinger 28. [01:33:38] Speaker B: Whoo. Yeah, indeed. We're gonna. We're gonna find out. [01:33:41] Speaker A: Find us some more Carl stuff. [01:33:43] Speaker B: We're gonna see what happens to Carl. [01:33:46] Speaker A: We're gonna see what happens to fucking Carl. That piece of shit. [01:33:49] Speaker B: What a jerk. Oh, boy. [01:33:53] Speaker A: So that'll triple agent. [01:33:54] Speaker B: That'll be. That'll be a real fun time. Looking forward to it, Johnny. Looking forward to reading the books. Looking forward to talking about the books. Looking forward to listen to us talk about the books. For QC or editing, whichever one I'm doing that week. This is gonna be a fun time. [01:34:11] Speaker A: Absolutely, man. [01:34:12] Speaker B: Don't forget to like us. Subscribe us. Tell your friends and family about us. I mean, we love doing the show, and we hope that you get some joy out of it too. If you don't like hearing me laugh, I'm sorry, but it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. [01:34:27] Speaker A: This is love to hear you laugh, dude. [01:34:29] Speaker B: This is joyful stuff. Spawn is joy. Spawn is love. Spawn is fun. You know? [01:34:35] Speaker A: Spawn is life. [01:34:36] Speaker B: Yes. Or anti life. Maybe we'll hold the philosophy for another. We'll have a. That's what we should do. We should do a Peter David v. Todd McFarlane style philosophy debate over what aspect of sports is most important. The love, the fun, the life. You know? We'll get there. We'll get there. But I think. I think I have just talked myself into a corner, Johnny. And that means I ain't got nothing else to say. But may the scorched be with you. [01:35:10] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:35:12] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:35:13] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. Spawn is good. Spawn is great. It's time to eat, motherfucker. [01:35:19] Speaker B: Amen, Ra.