RE:Spawn Episode 65 - Spawn 321 and Scorched 21

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, gang, it's me, your co host, John Fisher. In the DIY World of our Homebrew podcast, we've kind of run into some trials and tribulations. You may remember the old bad audio from the early days, and now we think we've gotten a lot better. But we ran into something that's a little OD this week. David's audio or his microphone, ended up picking up radio signals from God Knows where. We think it might be a livery service that's around his neighborhood. But you will hear some radio chatter starting about 30 minutes into the episode, lasting for, like, 1020 minutes. And it comes back at the end. There's really nothing we could do about it to get rid of it. We're going to do everything we can so it doesn't happen again. Just really kind of freaky that there's this weird radio chatter that you'll hear and just wanted to apologize for that and hope you can enjoy the episode despite the audio interference from some weird radio signal coming from beyond space and time. Anyway, on with the spawn. If it's a fight you want, then rise. Face the wrath of this she spawn. Good evening, and welcome to the Malbol. This is regarding Spawn, the World's best Spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:01:43] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, I'm sorry. [00:01:49] Speaker A: Don't be sorry. [00:01:51] Speaker B: You know why I'm sorry? [00:01:53] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:01:54] Speaker B: Because I just watched Spider man across the Spider Verse last night, and this is now a Spider man podcast. [00:02:03] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:02:10] Speaker B: Johnny. There's not enough spawn to cover, so we're going to have to jump ship to something that has many more issues of comic book to cover. [00:02:18] Speaker A: Oh, God. Try to cover Spiderman. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Jesus. But, yeah, anyway, good movie. Good movie. Real fun. If I might. Slight spoiler. And by slight spoiler, I mean not spoiler at all. But at one point, Miles Morales and Gwen Stacy are talking to each other, and then Miles parents comes up. And do you know what fake name Miles gives his parents for Gwen Simmons? He calls her Wanda. [00:02:57] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:02:58] Speaker B: And I am wondering if that is not an intentional fake name because of all of the contributions of one Mr. Tod McFarland to Spiderman in the 80s. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Could be. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Could be. Either that, or the writers of the show or the movie were just hella fans of us two years before we started recording. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that's probably it. [00:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah, that's got to be it. That's going to be my own personal view on the matter, and nobody can tell me otherwise, because for those movies, everything is chosen so specifically that they can't just have come up with Wanda with no sort of something. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Everything's like an Easter egg. Know reference to something in those movies. [00:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm going to believe that it is for Wanda McFarlane. And congratulations and good work. [00:04:01] Speaker A: What about. What if it's for Wanda Fitzgerald? [00:04:04] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Sorry. Wanda Blake. What if it's for. [00:04:06] Speaker B: Who knows? Who knows? But we're getting off topic, Johnny. So first, Peter Parker, bitten by radioactive Spider, gets the proportional strength and powers of a spider. He's a little nerdy kid who turns into a big buff dude. [00:04:23] Speaker A: You're like Spiderman One. Let me just crack this. Spiderman number one. [00:04:27] Speaker B: Even though he's a superhero, he's still a teenager. And nothing ever goes right for him. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Hilarity ensues. [00:04:37] Speaker B: But anyway, welcome to this. So now we kill Spiderman. Spiderman's dead. He's finito. We give him the Uncle Ben treatment. We're here to talk about some spawn. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Johnny, by Spider Man. We're talking about Spawner Man. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Spawner Man. [00:04:57] Speaker A: Spider Spawner Man. [00:04:59] Speaker B: Imagine there'll be a spider spawn. Maybe sometime soon. [00:05:03] Speaker A: There could be a spider spawn. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Could be interesting. [00:05:06] Speaker A: But, yeah, we are regarding Spawn respawn. And each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Hell, yeah, we do. [00:05:14] Speaker A: Except when we don't. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:05:18] Speaker A: Which we haven't a couple of times. Recently, we did an interview. We did a recap of Spawncon. There's been a couple little non traditional, non tradition episodes. [00:05:27] Speaker B: We've breathe. Don't you start with the abreves, Johnny. [00:05:32] Speaker A: I'm not a breathing anything but tradition. I love a breathing tradition. It's a. [00:05:43] Speaker B: What? [00:05:44] Speaker A: You know? [00:05:44] Speaker B: What's tradition, Johnny? Traditions. Those are tradition. [00:05:53] Speaker A: BUt no, this week we're reading a mainline spawn and a scorched. Our more classic issue is 321. All the way back from August 2021. The same month that King Spawn launched, actually, and then scorched 20. We got 20 ones all over the place. [00:06:09] Speaker B: We got 321 and Scorch 21, Johnny. I got a king and a two just sitting here, and I need you to hit me. [00:06:18] Speaker A: Hit you? Bam. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Damn it. It's a ten. [00:06:23] Speaker A: Oh, no. You busted. You got to get 21. Well, I just got 21 because I got this issue 21 right in front of me. [00:06:30] Speaker B: 21 issues of 21. Nice. [00:06:32] Speaker A: Or do you have 221 issues of Spawn? [00:06:35] Speaker B: One of them is a ten, and one of them is an ace. And you want to make it a little evidence that have a 21, because you are weird. Like that what? Blackjack. [00:06:44] Speaker A: What? Creepier Blackjack card. The only thing I ever won, the only game of chance I've won at was blackjack. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Nice. [00:06:53] Speaker A: I won, like, a couple hundred bucks on a cruise ship one time. [00:06:55] Speaker B: Nice. [00:06:56] Speaker A: By playing Jack Blackjack. [00:06:57] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure I won $2 on a slot machine once. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Nice. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Every once in a while, I have to go to the corner store, and if I ever have two extra ones in my pocket after I go to the corner store, I always buy a couple of dollar scratchers. I think Wanda and I have basically broken even for all of the ones because usually one of our tickets is a winner, and it's for a dollar. [00:07:25] Speaker A: Right? That's how it always goes. [00:07:27] Speaker B: And so if you buy two of them and one of them is a dollar, basically that one was. Yeah. So I guess we always. You know what math, you always lose a dollar. Always lose a know. You know what kind of math I hate, Johnny? Time math. Time math fucking kills me. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Time math, time, math. You better be doing some time math today because it's daylight savings time the day of this record. [00:07:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, it's the end of daylight savings time. [00:07:58] Speaker A: End of Daylight savings times. What is it called, then? [00:08:01] Speaker B: It's just standard time. Standard time, but measuring the course of days at work. Not to bring the tone of this podcast to something boring like work, but at work, we have courses for studies that are based on day number whatever. And so day Number zero is the day that we start something with a patient, and then day one would be the day after and so on and so forth. And it seems like it should be easy enough to do the counting, but it's so hard to do the counting. But, Johnny, we got these books. We got to cover them. [00:08:41] Speaker A: Yes, 321. And we got to cover the covers. [00:08:44] Speaker B: We got to cover the covers. [00:08:46] Speaker A: We got an iconic cover on this one right here. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I've seen this artwork before somewhere. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Where could I have seen it? [00:08:53] Speaker B: I mean, it was on a box. [00:08:56] Speaker A: That's right. It was on a box for the action figure of medieval Spawn. [00:09:02] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Absolutely. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Might even say this is, like, what the figure is based off almost. [00:09:07] Speaker B: Yes. I wouldn't even say almost. I would say exactly. But unfortunately, that box didn't have this full scope of what is in this image, Johnny, because let me tell you, this image is pretty fucking brutal. [00:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah. There's, like, a bunch of decapitated people that Swan has killed or medieval swan has killed. There's a guy just, like, stepping on his jawbone. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. The decapitated body in front that you mentioned. But then there's, like, bodies behind him that are just, like, on fire. [00:09:43] Speaker A: Oh, God. I didn't even see those. [00:09:44] Speaker B: And that sword is just red with blood. Or the axe is just red with blood. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:50] Speaker B: And medieval's just got blood all over his armor. Did we mention that it was Bjorn Barons? [00:09:56] Speaker A: No, it's Bjorn Barron. [00:09:58] Speaker B: It's motherfucking Bjorn Barons drawing medieval spawn on the COVID of this issue of Spawn. And it is fucking dope. It's great. If you don't like this image, maybe Spawn just isn't for you, I guess. And that's fine. More spawn for us. [00:10:16] Speaker A: More spawn for us. Yeah, it's just badass and pretty iconic. [00:10:24] Speaker B: Is that the only copy of this issue you have, Johnny? [00:10:28] Speaker A: No, I actually have another copy. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Ooh. [00:10:31] Speaker A: I have the TOd McFarlane cover. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Which is spawn. Like, zapping a skull. Yeah, he's got crazy looking. [00:10:41] Speaker B: He's got orb hands, and his orb hands are putting an orb around a skull. It's pretty great. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Why? [00:10:48] Speaker B: I don't know. It's after Zafino, so it's whatever Zafino was doiNg. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Oh, okay. So there was another cover. Yeah, like Magneto or something doing guess. Oh, no, that's just a guess. I don't know if it's necessarily Magneto after Zafino. All right? He's just picking up what he's throwing down. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:10] Speaker A: And there's a third cover that I don't have, but it's by Matt. [00:11:14] Speaker B: Nice. Nice. Yeah, I've got it here at the back of my edition. [00:11:19] Speaker A: It's just really nice. Dark, brooding spawn. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just a spawn with his cape and his chains whipping around him and then just a whole bunch of bats flying around him. And he's standing on a whole bunch of skeletons and stuff. The pug is. [00:11:34] Speaker A: There's also Bjorn Baron's virgin cover, an all natural owl cover. [00:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it's in the back here, too. And it's great. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Evidently worth $87. [00:11:44] Speaker B: I mean, it's free. 99 on Hoopla. [00:11:48] Speaker A: I think the actual comic was. It was a one to 50 variant. [00:11:51] Speaker B: Oh, jeez. Yeah, they should make a poster out of that. It should be a poster. It should really be a poster. Yeah. I got to go grab this pug. She's howling. Okay, so, yeah, man, it would be great to have that $80 spawn issue, but it would be even better if they made a poster out of it. They should make posters out of every Brian Baron's cover. Shit, dude. [00:12:18] Speaker A: I mean, I can see that. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Be wonderful. [00:12:24] Speaker A: He needs to come to sponkon year two so I can buy a print. [00:12:27] Speaker B: That would be awesome. [00:12:30] Speaker A: He probably lives like. He's probably like. I don't know if he lives in. [00:12:33] Speaker B: The US or in. I think he lives in Europe, in one of the Scandinavian countries. [00:12:41] Speaker A: But, yeah, those are the three covers. Four covers, I guess, if you count the all natural cover. And when we pop it open, it's time for them credits. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it's got that nice little. When you open it up like a soda. We got Tod McFarland doing the script plot. Johnny, can you believe? [00:13:03] Speaker A: Can I can. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Me too. We got what appears to be a couple of different stories in here. Because for art, there's Carlo Barberry. And then Thomas Natchlick is credited for medieval spawn story. So got a backup story in this one, Johnny. The Tom father himself showing up for his day job on this one, lettering Orzinkowski. Oh, man. So good. So good. J. David Ramos doing the colors, and then Andrew Dalhouse doing the medieval spawn story colors. We done covered the covers. The Todd father is the creative director, and then Thomas Healy's the editor. So soon to be editor in chief. [00:13:48] Speaker A: This previously on Spawn. Cracks me up. [00:13:50] Speaker B: All right, I'll read it. Okay. Please, Rick. [00:13:54] Speaker A: Previously in Spawn. A vicious battle between Spawn, Cygor, and a long forgotten enemy, Soul Crusher. It spills from the docks into the bay and ends up with a starting conclusion in the shadows of a derelict warehouse. It just makes it sound like the warehouse is going to be important in this issue. [00:14:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. I'm surprised they didn't include. And Psycho got punched into space. [00:14:19] Speaker A: Yeah, Soul Crusher. Also, why is he long forgotten enemy? I thought he was a new character. Are we wrong again? [00:14:26] Speaker B: We must be. I don't know. Do you want me to Google real quick? Soul Crusher? Yeah, Google Soul Crusher. He's the man, the man with that weird old goop. And by Goop, I mean gas. Apparently there's a white zombie album called Soul Crusher that it wants to tell me about. Why does the Wiki not tell me where he first appeared? Oh, his first appearance is issue 297. Okay, wait, no. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Long forgotten what? [00:15:02] Speaker B: It says. He made a cameo appearance. His first appearance was Spawn 270. [00:15:10] Speaker A: Okay, so he's a long forgotten enemy. We're wrong again. [00:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, interesting. Yeah, now we know. [00:15:18] Speaker A: Wild 270. [00:15:19] Speaker B: That's like a February 2017, Johnny. [00:15:23] Speaker A: Wow. [00:15:25] Speaker B: So, like, just before either of us fully got into the weeklies of Spawn. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Sad. [00:15:33] Speaker B: Yeah. What? Dummy. [00:15:34] Speaker A: We'll get there eventually. [00:15:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we will. All right. So we open up. Opening up. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Not on a derelict warehouse, which I assumed we would because of that recap. [00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah. But it is somewhere unknown, and it looks kind of derelict there. That barn. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Swans at his secret base, where he keeps everyone trapped. And he's, like, calling a little meeting. Yeah, with Jessica. And. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Where'S. He says, I called everybody, and I only see you two. I know there's another person here. Yeah. [00:16:08] Speaker A: Where's his medieval? [00:16:09] Speaker B: Where's Medieval? And then from here, we just have three pages of Al being a jerk work. [00:16:16] Speaker A: Yeah, basically. [00:16:20] Speaker B: Him blaming them for people being able to come and go from his secret barn, warehouse place in the middle of nowhere. That's kind of just all this is. He's just a jerk about it. He's like, I gave you the keys and told you not to share the keys with anybody. And yet we got people coming, and we got people going, and we got somebody not showing up. Where is medieval? And then Mark's like, I haven't seen. [00:16:50] Speaker A: Him in a few hours. Not me. [00:16:55] Speaker B: And then he gives them the DJ Jazzy Jeff treatment and says, get out of here. He only stops just before throwing them out, like Uncle Phil would. [00:17:10] Speaker A: I love that. Jessica says, maybe he's in the bathroom. For all we know, he's taking a giant. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Guy. He eats nothing but meat. It takes him forever. Just calm your tits, is what she says. [00:17:25] Speaker A: He eats dragon meat from medieval times. [00:17:28] Speaker B: He doesn't eat any fiber. But Al gives him an eviction notice. And then Jessica's like, what the fuck are you on? She says, we're doing what you're asking, and we've sacrificed a fucking lot. And now you just want to kick us out? She's pointing at him. She's like, you. She's giving him the Uncle Sam treatment here. That's pointing right at it. Right at him. And then Mark's like, hey, I got this. I got this. And starts talking back to Al. It's always fun when Mark talks back to Al. It never ends well for Mark when he talks back to Al. But it always ends up with Al just getting angry at him and then storming away. [00:18:19] Speaker A: This is a wordy. [00:18:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yeah. [00:18:23] Speaker A: You guys are fighting. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Spawn reminds us again that the people that they're fighting against killed both Wanda and Susan. So we can't forget that Mark's girlfriend was killed. And then he stomps with that. Spawn spins and walks away, shaking the floor with every stride he makes. I bet whenever he puts the right foot down that it shakes more than the left foot. [00:18:50] Speaker A: Of course, it's like, boom. Like a little dainty step. [00:18:55] Speaker B: Boom. [00:18:58] Speaker A: So he's just, like, huffing and puffing away. [00:19:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that. This panel is set up so it's got spawn stomping away from Mark and Jessica. And then there's just big ass gun in the foreground. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Yep. Just a crazy. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Like, somebody saw this panel and was like, you know what this panel needs? Just a big ass gun. No reason. And Carlo was like, I got you. I got you. [00:19:26] Speaker A: I got you covered. [00:19:28] Speaker B: It's a great gun. And then Spawn stomps away to his room so he can read the Invisibles by Grant Morrison, which, he's a moody teenager, and he says, this Grant Morrison, this Grant Morrison, gets me in the troubles I'm going through. And so he's listening to some fucking the cure real loud. [00:19:50] Speaker A: No, David, it's the file from the guy. It's the file. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah. It's the file of the pre published proofs of Invisibles by Grant Morrison. No, about all this. [00:20:06] Speaker A: The file from Giovanni's basement. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah. The questionable businessman. And also questionably good guy, because he kills people who are killing children, villages. Yeah, but then he's a vampire. He's ambiguous. He's ambiguous on a scale of good to bad. Spawn didn't like him, though, so he cascavamontiatoed him up in a wall there. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Put him in a wall, and took his files a couple of issues ago. [00:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And Jessica and Mark are like, that boy ain't right. [00:20:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:50] Speaker B: And then we cut from there to broody Spawn on a roof, watching a dude get in a truck. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Who could this guy be? [00:21:01] Speaker B: I don't know, but Spawn follows his home. Follows him home. I like how the truck is driving. So presumably this truck is driving 30, 40 miles an hour at least. And then just like every once in a while, he passes Spawn, which just means Spawn. Shadow blasts to just before him on the road. [00:21:20] Speaker A: Right. He just keeps going, like, right in front of him just to watch him pass. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Quite interesting. Quite interesting. And so this guy drives to a cabin in the woods. Yeah. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Then just falls asleep looking very evil dead. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:35] Speaker A: And these are the bugs. The bugs are Spawn's powers. They don't come out of soul Crusher. We were wrong. [00:21:41] Speaker B: These bugs are different than the soul crusher bugs, thougH, Johnny. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Really? Well, maybe. In 270, it explicitly explains the soul Crusher is full of bugs. [00:21:50] Speaker B: We got. What is this guy's name? Is this guy's name Paul? Feel like his name is Paul? Yeah, his name is. So Paul's. Paul's drunk on the. Drunk in his chair. And it's like, whoa. Must have dozed Paul. Paul gets choke slammed right back into his chair after he wakes up. And these bugs, specifically in the text of this is Al Simmons knows what Paul is afraid of, so he's making. These are like necroplasm bugs crawling up Paul's arms. So that way it's like an interrogation. Spawn. Spawn knows that this guy doesn't like bugs, probably because they're hidden from the light of God and are filled with evil. Don't you remember? That's how Spawn can increase his necroplasm, because eat bugs and other things that crawl beneath the earth because they're not exposed to the light of God and therefore are 100% evil. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Okay, I forgot that bugs are evil in the Spawns universe. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:00] Speaker A: Well, he'd be happy then, because they're all dying. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Then, you know, Spawn starts asking about the files again. Jesus Christ. He's just, he's just like, the files, these files. These files. Boy, these bad guys are all writing down all their nefarious deeds. Don't write your bad deeds down. Jesus. That's a surefire way to get caught. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Especially if you've got file hounds to call it invisibles. Probably not the best idea. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he's. No, he's like Tom O. He says, I don't live this life. I was just hired for a job. And then he's like, I put him in a Pittsburgh safety deposit box. And then this guy thinks that he's going to get one over on old Albert Simmons by sickening his dogs after him. And we got a couple spawn, his. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Friend to the animal. [00:24:02] Speaker B: Yeah, a couple of Doberman pinchers attack him from behind. I like how all three of the faces, both dogs and Al Simmons, basically look the exact same, only they do because Al Simmons doesn't have a long ass nose. He's kind of like the pug version of the Great. It's great. And then there's like a little. A short stRuggle, and Al's like, you're sending your dogs. That's your play with the classic question form of the Togfathers. I don't fear your pets because I control them like I control you. And then the Dobermans go from just a couple of good boys, just a. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Couple of good boys, a couple of good doggies. And then we find out Paul's been a very bad doggie. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Yeah, a very bad man. He's been holding a lady hostage. And then we get a little spawn, comes closer to her. And she's. No, no, please do whatever you want to me, but don't touch my baby. And he does a little bit of cyan work here. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Yep. He touches her and sees her. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Is this a power that spawn has long had? [00:25:20] Speaker A: I don't know. Maybe. It's just. I don't know when it was, because. [00:25:25] Speaker B: I don't know either. [00:25:28] Speaker A: He basically just touches her and gets all of her memories. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And they're not good. We get sad Spawn face here. [00:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah, this is rough. [00:25:38] Speaker B: So basically, 16 year old. What's her name? Do they tell us her name? I don't even think she has a name, does she? So basically, 16 year old girl. Gets classically pulled up. In one of those windowless vans that. [00:25:58] Speaker A: The evil van, right. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And then just the worst things happen to her. And this guy's. Paul's doing very bad things to her. [00:26:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a little rough. [00:26:14] Speaker B: At some point during his domination over her, she has a baby, and that makes him not a happy man, that she keeps her baby. And Al says he's so sorry. And he sadly remembers something similar in his own life. Not as nefarious, but still not a good thing when not a good thing. Al Simmons slapped Wanda, which I am surprised by. This recently came up in one of the new books. I didn't know that Al Simmons had ever raised a hand toward Wanda. But here we learn, if we haven't covered it already, that Al Simmons, in fact, did raise a hand against Wanda. And it is fucking brutal. [00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So this was something introduced. I think it's somewhere between, like, 150 and when he dies. Or when he dies the first time, because I haven't gotten to it yet, but it was evidently not greatly received by a lot of spawn fans. [00:27:24] Speaker B: I can see why. Jesus Christ. [00:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. It's really rough. And it's like, I know people make mistakes. And Al Simmons is a soldier who has, like, PTSD probably, but it's just like, oh, man. It makes it like. It puts a whole new tint to his kind of obsession with Wanda. [00:27:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:52] Speaker A: And maybe that's what they want. It makes you. Them not want to. You don't want them together. [00:27:57] Speaker B: It's wild, too, because it shows that Al Simmons isn't only just now becoming kind of an asshole. He's maybe always been a little bit of an asshole. [00:28:06] Speaker A: Yeah, he's always been. And like he says in the newest King Spawn, where they mentioned the assault, or where he raises a hand to Wanda again, he calls himself, I'm a monster. And I always have been. [00:28:21] Speaker B: It's very interesting. Very interesting. Yeah. [00:28:25] Speaker A: I don't know. It'll be interesting to see where that goes in King Spawn. But, Spawn, why'd you do it? [00:28:32] Speaker B: Well, I mean, they discuss reasons for why he thought it was an acceptable course of action in that newest King spawn that we'll cover when we get to it. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Right. His mother was abused. Heavy stuff for Swan. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like real issues. [00:28:52] Speaker A: Well, especially with issues in this issue. [00:28:55] Speaker B: It used to be sort of an acceptable thing to show in your family drama, where just occasionally you'd get a slaps, and for some reason, people thought that was okay. And it's like, wait, what? No. What? No. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:29:13] Speaker B: No, you get people like Sean Connery, like, in interviews, being like, yeah, occasionally a slaps is needed. And it's like, what the. What? Do you not remember that during an interview, Sean Connery said something along the lines of, know, maybe a little hit is what you need to keep people in line. And it's like, wait, what? [00:29:37] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Sean. [00:29:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:42] Speaker A: He'S dead, right? [00:29:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he's dead. [00:29:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:29:45] Speaker B: I love speaking ill of the dead. [00:29:47] Speaker A: And then, yeah, ill of the dead. [00:29:49] Speaker B: To wash this taste out of our mouth. You've got on the other end of the spectrum, sir. Patrick Stewart's mom was abused by his father. And so Patrick Stewart has literally spent his entire career advocating for victims of domestic abuse and trying to stop it from being something that happens to begin with. Be a Patrick Stewart. Don't be a Sean Connery. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Yeah. If you're going to pick someone with a fun accent to be. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Be a Captain Jean Luc Picard, not a James Bond. Hell, even be a Locutus of Borg, because Locudis at least wants to make everything good for all things, at least from the Borg sense of good for all things. And he doesn't just want to sleep around with a whole bunch of floozies like your. There's only. There's only two women that Jean Luc Picard wants to fool around with. One of them is Dr. Beverly Crusher, and the other is, oh, she's a treasure hunter. She's basically the Star Trek version of Indiana Jones. What is her name? [00:31:11] Speaker A: And Katherine Picard is in love with. [00:31:13] Speaker B: He's in. He's hella in love with her. And she shows up every once in a while, and then he has moral quandaries about her, basically robbing graves. And he's like, I'm fascinated by the collection and the knowledge that you get from this, but I don't agree with it. But also, you're really hot, and I love you, but I don't agree with your morals. It's great. It's great. Let's see what her name is, because I know some Star Trek fan is going to Vash. Her name is Vash. Horny. Captain Picard. Al Simmons, having to basically stew in his own reprehensibleness in light of this. More reprehensible. [00:32:06] Speaker A: This guy even says he's still more fucked up. He's like, why don't you have a go at her? [00:32:10] Speaker B: Yeah, like, what the fuck? Oh, I guess her name is Melissa, he says, because she's a good girl. Ain't that right, Melissa? [00:32:19] Speaker A: Spawn's just, like, can't take it anymore. [00:32:21] Speaker B: With those words. Johnny Spawn realizes he's not losing his mind. He's losing control. [00:32:28] Speaker A: And the louder he screams, the darker it gets, which is terrifying. [00:32:32] Speaker B: And he just, like, sucks all of the light out of. He sucks the light out of the room. He sucks the light out of the basement. Then he sucks the light out of the house. And then he sucks the light out of the entire county. Johnny, he causes a blackout. He's like Clark Griswold in a Christmas vacation. Turning on his house, where it just sucks all of the energy from Chicago into that one little house. Yes, the blackness is upon them. Johnny, 1816, one 8116 for Spawn's power meter. Yes. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Moving on up a little bit. Usually that's the end of the issue, but not this time, baby. [00:33:13] Speaker B: We get this dope. Thomas Natchlick. Art. One particular thing that is immediately apparent between Carlo Barberry's art and Thomas Natchlick's is market the computer. In Carlo Barberry's art market the computer, everything is sleek and clean. And the big room size computer with all the monitors is, like, built in. And it's all one piece. Thomas Natchlick. It's literally, like, there's computer pieces on carts next to little tables, next to filing cabinets. There's a fucking fire extinguisher there. There's old ass computers lined up against the wall. And it's great. My father worked in it, and I have been in these rooms more times than I can count. And it's wonderful for the authenticity. Nothing against Carla Barberi's super cool comic book computer room, but this just hits me right in the spots that it's supposed to hit you. The fire extinguisher cracks me up. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Feels a little more realistic. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And there's, like, junk on the desk. There's, like, the coffee cup. There's the cup full of pins. And Mark's. Mark's still doing work, even though he's been served with the eviction notice. And Spawn comes in and is like, what are you doing? Get the hell out of here. What are you doing? And Mark's like, I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. [00:34:53] Speaker A: My shit. Leave me alone. Spawn. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, grow up. You wanted to be here. I have a question for you, Johnny. Yeah. So in the first narration panel of this, it says, still stewing from their prior conversation, asterisk. Do you have an asterisk anywhere on this page that says what they're referring? Because, I mean, obviously it's from the previous story. And I don't know if they had intended this to be in a different issue. And we're going to put, like, C issue 321, but then decided at the end of this one and got rid of the footnote, but not the asterisk. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Interesting. I could see that. That's probably what happened. [00:35:37] Speaker B: Probably. I like Thomas Natchlick Spawn. He looks like an actual person would in a spawn suit. It's great. [00:35:44] Speaker A: No, he does. I like his spawn a lot too. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Is that how you've spun it in your head? Wow, that's impressive. We get more Todd Father opening, opening with questions. [00:35:57] Speaker A: And Mark's just like, fuck this. I'm trying to get yelled at by Spawn. Says he quits. [00:36:01] Speaker B: So here. Here's a file. Do your own dirty work from now on. I quit. And so he's in his. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Gets a nice, cool little bedroom, packing. [00:36:09] Speaker B: His suitcase, and he's leaving Spawncon. Yeah. He opens his closet, and he's like, what the heck is this medieval helmet doing in here? He says, the heck? [00:36:22] Speaker A: This helmet's following me around. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's like, oh, I'm going to pack everything up, and then I'm going to take this helmet back. So he packs stuff up, takes the helmet back to the lab, just, like, sets it on the autopsy table there, and it just, like, turns back and goes back to his room. And when he gets back to his room, the helmet's just waiting for him on his bed. [00:36:46] Speaker A: What the. [00:36:47] Speaker B: The. No way. He says, no way. And says, how is this happening? And he picks the helmet up again, presumably, I would think, to take it back to the lab. And then it just takes over him and makes him put it on. [00:37:02] Speaker A: The moment he touches it, Mark Rosen ceases to exist. [00:37:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So he's putting the helmet on, and then he's into medieval. I also like Thomas Snatchlick's medieval because obviously, a man this big isn't going to be real slender in the tummy area. Not that he's going to be a fat man, but people of his size and his strength. Don't have, like, the super spelt ripple six pack abs. They got a little layer of cushion on top of him. And he looks like an actual big muscleman in this. And it is great. [00:37:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. For body shapes. Naturalistic body shapes. Medieval disappears. And then minutes pass. Then, feeling guilty, Spawn comes to apologize to mArk. [00:37:57] Speaker A: I like how Spawn comes back to apologize. [00:38:00] Speaker B: He does this every once in a while. He was like, god damn it, I was being an asshole, wasn't I? Fuck. And he's just like, I gotta fuck. I gotta apologize now. And then he comes and he says, mark, what you doing? [00:38:17] Speaker A: And he's gone. [00:38:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the end of the issue. Then we smash cut to the spawning grounds. Spawning grounds presents the breakdown. And this time it's the secret history of medieval Spawn. Johnny, weren't we just asking for something? Like, were. Yes, I do. Yes. And, well, we ask the Todd Father provides. It's great. So Sir John of York, a knight to King Henry II, was slain and sent to hell. After a bargain with Malbolgia. He is returned to Earth in the demon's service as a Hellspawn knight. Desperate to redeem his soul, he attempts to protect the innocent, defend the sacred, and rise to nobility once again. So luckily, Johnny, it seems as if we haven't missed any of medieval Spawn's backstory. [00:39:10] Speaker A: No, we really haven't. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Because it starts with issue nine. With medieval stumbling across Angela right before he gets killed. [00:39:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I like how it says he was killed by a beautiful but deadly agent of heaven. Can't really say Angela. [00:39:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And then it cuts to him being held in the lightroom underneath the Vatican. And the Pope comes down and is like, the Pope. And then it cuts from the Pope to. [00:39:47] Speaker A: They're keeping tracks of all his mission that we covered. [00:39:50] Speaker B: So Sir John of York is killed, becomes a hellspawn. Hellspawn is killed. He's killed the second time by Angela. Then he comes back, he's killed a third time by Spawn in that little, bitty, tiny town. And then he's resurrected within the body of Rosen. So. [00:40:11] Speaker A: But then it ends with, who is medieval Spawn? [00:40:14] Speaker B: Yeah. A very good question that hopefully we get answered. [00:40:18] Speaker A: Right, because it still hasn't been answered. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe that's what that Liam Sharp book is going to do. Yeah, I could see that. Then we have the image classics. We got the gunslinger coming. October 2021. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Gunslinger is coming. [00:40:38] Speaker B: That's Spawn 321, Johnny. [00:40:41] Speaker A: That's SpAwn 321. A kind of heavy issue of spawn, boy. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Yeah, rereading. I usually do my rereading, like, right before I go to bed. So that way it's fresh in my mind when I wake up for our records and who. Boy, what a terrible time to have sat down to this. I was like, I'm going to see some hell guys just do some beat them ups. And that was not the beat them ups I was hoping for, to say the least. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Not at all. Yeah, kind of somber issue, but in a lot of yelling, a lot of fighting, man. Hey, but they can't all be joyful. [00:41:21] Speaker B: No. Pretty solid issue, though. I wouldn't say I enjoyed it, but solid and good. Solid and goodbye. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Next up, we got Scorched 21 flex, not Spawn 321. Scorched 21. [00:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Which means we win. What did we win, Johnny? What was the pot up to? [00:42:05] Speaker A: Crazy. We went a crazy. The pot was up to one crazy issue. Scorched. I don't know. I kind of love this issue. It's just wild. [00:42:15] Speaker B: It's not a bad issue. But it also has the same problem where this is the worst thing to read. Like, when you're trying to go down to bed, it's just like, what the fuck? You got to have your faculties about you a little bit to get this one to not just be like, say what? So what do we got here, Johnny? We got scorch number 21. [00:42:40] Speaker A: We got Scorch 21. [00:42:42] Speaker B: What you got on the front of yours? [00:42:44] Speaker A: I've got the Fede Melee cover. I do too, which is spawn like. Yeah, watercolors that coming down some mines of Moria steps into. [00:42:56] Speaker B: That. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Looks like he's in some kind of dungeon. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's literally like Moria posts that battle because there's definitely, like a whole bunch of dead things. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Yep. [00:43:10] Speaker B: Man. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Yeah, Swan's just, like, walking down this pathway. Pretty cool. [00:43:17] Speaker B: He's on the stairway to hell. [00:43:21] Speaker A: He's on the stairway to hell. And it has a B cover, which is by Francesco Mattina. And it's our boy haunt. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Mr. No knives himself. [00:43:40] Speaker A: Mr. No knives around here. He's like, haunting out, shooting strings. [00:43:47] Speaker B: It's a, he kind of looks like he's swamp thing. Just like growing a whole bunch of vines out of him. It's great. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I need to read Haunt to figure out exactly what his powers are. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Yeah, you should just don't announce that you're going to buy it off of whatever or else it'll go. [00:44:08] Speaker A: I know you can't get it. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Can't get it. Oh, nice. [00:44:13] Speaker A: Volume two. I can get volume one. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah, inside this. Inside this. Johnny, we're going to crack open this book. Crack open this book. And it goes Greek script plot crack by Sean Lewis. Tod McFarland with his additional script. I couldn't put my finger on the additional script this time, but got art, I guess we got Dexter soy doing the art this time. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I really like the art. [00:44:43] Speaker B: It's real good. And then something that I wish that they had done for many previous issues, it says that the reporters page is done by Carlo Barberry. So I don't know if this is just something they're starting or if this means that this is the first time that the reporter's page hasn't been done specifically by the listed. [00:45:06] Speaker A: So usually there's different and done by the listed artist. I think probably is like, they didn't realize he probably finished it. And Tod was like, I want to put in a pundit. And they're like, oh shit, we don't have it. And he's like, well, just use this. [00:45:23] Speaker B: Still. I like, I like that if they do this going forward, I'm going to. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Be very happy because he calls out the reporters page. I mean, how can you not love it? [00:45:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great. It's the best page. In fact, it's the only page we should be reading. We got Ulysses, Ariola over again, doing the colors and world design, doing the covers or the designs, the lettering and world lettering something and world lettering, doing the designs. We covered the covers. Creative directors Todd McFarland and editor in chief is Thomas Healy. Johnny, can you believe it? [00:45:59] Speaker A: I can believe it. Previously enscorched, Spawn's forces gather to attack the Saints. Meanwhile, she, Spawn returns to the dead with a new purpose. [00:46:11] Speaker B: So how many, you would know better than I because your Wanda is better at this than mine. How many men do you need to make a football team? Because if Spawn's going to attack the Saints, he's going to be going against the New Orleans SaintS, right? So he needs all those guys with helmets and pads. If Spawns played football, would they wear pads and helmets or would they just be out in there? [00:46:40] Speaker A: I think they do it for the aesthetics. I think they wear the. [00:46:45] Speaker B: Their helmets just look like their regular heads. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Obviously we need eleven people to make a football team, okay? [00:46:53] Speaker B: Obviously they would need to make their spikes, retract for at least during play. [00:47:02] Speaker A: That's what they do is they put little round tips on the edge of their spikes. [00:47:07] Speaker B: Or it's like when you're in youth soccer and you also play baseball, instead of having to buy two sets of cleats, you just cut that toe cleat off of your baseball cleats and you're good to go. Yeah. [00:47:22] Speaker A: That's ingenious. [00:47:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So all this to say about football, Johnny. So as of this record, yesterday was the last in conference Bedlam football game between Oklahoma State and Oklahoma University. And God damn it, Johnny, the Pokes fucking pulled it out. They won by three. Hell yeah. They didn't win the entire four years I was there. But when it usually, usually even when it counts, they don't do it. But they did it this year, Johnny. Hell yeah. [00:47:56] Speaker A: And it was in Stillwater. They were going to mention that for hundreds of years. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's going to be. [00:48:03] Speaker A: It'll be like a legendary OSU story that everyone knows. [00:48:06] Speaker B: They definitely called all of the advertising people in overnight to say, this is going to be the first line in any advertising material we have from now on. It'll be the first thing you learn in freshman orientation. [00:48:22] Speaker A: I mean, basically, yeah. [00:48:25] Speaker B: It will now be on whatever. The current president's headstone will be president for the last and best final bedlam or whatever. But very exciting, very exciting for those who are in the know. [00:48:41] Speaker A: So we open up. [00:48:42] Speaker B: Yes, on Bedlam, on. [00:48:45] Speaker A: But see, David, he wasn't fighting the Saints. He wasn't playing. [00:48:47] Speaker B: He wasn't playing football team. [00:48:49] Speaker A: He was fighting the real Saints, I guess. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:53] Speaker A: Or people that use the Saints stuff. [00:48:55] Speaker B: So he is basically the nun trying to get Saint relics so that way he can be more powerful and escape from hell. That's what that was about, right? [00:49:08] Speaker A: The Nun two? I don't know. You tell me. [00:49:11] Speaker B: I think that's what it was about. [00:49:12] Speaker A: You liked it better than I did. [00:49:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I think I have lower expectation for nun stories than you two because the nun works best when she's not the main focus of the story. It's just an unfortunate part. [00:49:31] Speaker A: I liked it. [00:49:31] Speaker B: I don't know, it was fine. But it was what I wanted from a nun movie. So what I want from a Nun movie is a really fucking cool reveal of the nun. That's all I need. And that magazine stand scene where it reveals the nun just made the movie for me, so that's cool. [00:49:52] Speaker A: I can see that. [00:49:52] Speaker B: That's all I needed from a Nun movie. [00:49:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, then you should be very happy. [00:49:58] Speaker B: Yeah. That means the next conjuring film better have a really fucking good nun appearance. Or I'm going to be upset. [00:50:09] Speaker A: Better be second to none. Maybe it'll be the time they fight werewolves and they'll have to do that. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. Hopefully. [00:50:20] Speaker A: We can only hope because they had to fight werewolves. IRL, evidently, according to them, not fight werewolves, but, like, deal with werewolves. [00:50:28] Speaker B: Oh, the Warrens love them. We also love Jessica Priest's family. [00:50:34] Speaker A: So does she. She's giving them hugs. She's telling her mom. She's apologizing to her mom. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Yeah, for Jessica so loved her family that she was crucified, died, and was buried, and then Rose again to come say hey, come say hello. Yeah, she apologizes to her mom, and her mom's like, the shit is this? I guess this is probably the Todd Father's additional scripts. Are you a fairy princess? No, you are. [00:51:06] Speaker A: They start playing up that her daughter is going to be special somehow in this issue. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:12] Speaker A: So we'll see down the road. [00:51:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And she says that she knows that if she were to have stayed dead, that Al Simmons promised to guard her. And she's like, if he needs to, I know he'll keep him safe, or keep her safe, but not in the safest safe way. Like, she'll still be alive, but she won't be undamaged. Yeah. [00:51:39] Speaker A: Wouldn't really trust spawn to keep my child. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Like, maybe for, like, a quick hour so I can go to the grocery store and buy some food or something. But sure. Not for an extended period of time. No. [00:51:53] Speaker A: That's a dangerous no. [00:51:55] Speaker B: And then while she's talking to her daughter, she gets crept up on by Gaia and heap. [00:52:03] Speaker A: I love this. I love turning the page and seeing all the. [00:52:05] Speaker B: And Simon Kingslayer. [00:52:08] Speaker A: Seeing all the green world people just popping in. I love that. I was like, hell, yeah. There they are. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great. And her basically being like, I can't take advice from you. You're a child. And he's like, so what? [00:52:20] Speaker A: Maybe you're right. [00:52:21] Speaker B: That's cool. So there's an alliance between Jessica Priest and Greenworld because that's what brought her. Then we. [00:52:29] Speaker A: Right, so it appears that Gaia brought her back after she was killed. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we cut to the remaining scorch. Just reading through the files. More files. [00:52:41] Speaker A: Chilling. More files. Dude, you got to get the files. [00:52:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we got Redeemer at the helm. He's tippity typeity, tippity typiting. It seems like they would have wanted somebody who was a human first and not an angel to have tippity tappity tipped. [00:52:57] Speaker A: But, hey, he used to be that kid. [00:52:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I guess he did. Yeah, true. Fine. The files, they all seem to be about ancient relics and saints. And then Redeemer is like, they must all want the same thing. And Al's like, they want power. Power over humanity itself. Just ask him. Show yourself, coward. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Everyone turns around, and it's our boy. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Mandarin Spawn, just, like, hanging out, creeping up. [00:53:29] Speaker A: He's like, look, we got to work together because I got someone you guys got to talk to. [00:53:37] Speaker B: Yeah, like the surprise face that monolith makes. Are you out of your mind? [00:53:45] Speaker A: He looks crazy. [00:53:48] Speaker B: Who sent you? And then Al says, who sent you? And then the sender makes himself known. He says, I did. And it's our. [00:53:58] Speaker A: It's Urzin. Boom, boom, boom. Green World's here. They were over here. Now there's Urzin. [00:54:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And then the planet Eater is planning to take this planet. Okay? That's what they do. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Rewrite history. Yeah, it's like, we knew that. [00:54:13] Speaker B: And then he talks to Spawn, and Spawn's like, okay, so what skin do you have in this game? And he's like, well, if this world dies, I die. And so he's like, okay, well, then let's keep you alive. And then I was like, what's the play? How do we get to them? And Urzen says, we break Earth open. It just turns into, like, a fucking issue of the Hulk. Now they're just, like, smashing the, like, punching the ground. [00:54:42] Speaker A: I love it. They're just punching the ground to shake the whole world. [00:54:46] Speaker B: They're destroying the sand, the attention of the Saiyans. Yeah, they're destroying the Golden Gate Bridge. They're making volcanoes explode. They're cracking some sort of walkway to some set of big old doors. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Well, that's later. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:08] Speaker A: That'S where they are. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:10] Speaker A: So it's actually the doors to the bone Church of Sarahvo. How do I pronounce that? [00:55:20] Speaker B: Sarajevo. [00:55:22] Speaker A: Sarajevo. The Bone Church of Sarajevo. Is it A-J-I bet it's a real church. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:31] Speaker A: Is that churches made of bones? [00:55:33] Speaker B: I guess so. I mean, it doesn't look like it looks more like it's made of rock, but, yeah. It brings us to Senator Terminus and the world eaters. And Senator Terminus is just sitting in his chair like a Dr. Doom would, soliloquizing about stuff, being like, this world sucks. They kill all the saints we sent them. This world sucks. [00:55:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Also, like, what are you doing, Senator, when are you going to be on the Senate floor, dude? [00:56:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Shouldn't you be, like, co signing bills and just. He's just on sabbatical. He's just like, I'm going on sabbatical again. And so he's like, they killed all our saints. So we stole back all of the saints stuff that they stole from the saints that we sent, and we're going to kill them with all these saint weapons. [00:56:21] Speaker A: We got all the Saint weapons. Okay. [00:56:23] Speaker B: Boils down to, I like how over the course of this, he goes from having the crazy viny tentacle arm to just having a regular arm again. [00:56:35] Speaker A: He's just sitting there and he's like, I'm going to make my arm go crazy for a. [00:56:39] Speaker B: He's like, the Justice League has these. We're going to kill all these people. So I guess it makes them the Anti Justice League. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Makes them the Mean saints. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Then we got the pundits talking about basically all the shit that happened due to spawn and urizen punching the ground over. Punching the ground, talking about the CRN ladies, talking about how. Talking to scientists about what could be happening, the info Buz guys talking about how he spoke to somebody in the military and that it might not just all be climate, but it could be climate. And then Brock the shock fennel actually being right again, for not the right reasons. But it's definitely the mysterious costume madman who calls himself Spawn. That's literally who's been doing. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Yeah, he's punching the grind. He's punching it. [00:57:38] Speaker B: So I hate that he's right. But he's fucking right. [00:57:41] Speaker A: He's right. And the info buz guy's just like, I don't know. Maybe there's some nuclear tests going on. We don't really know. [00:57:49] Speaker B: Yeah, but Brock's correct. [00:57:51] Speaker A: It is spawn. [00:57:52] Speaker B: I do like how Brock signs off and what's the deal with all these damn lights? It's like he turns into a Seinfeld bit. What's the deal with those damn lights? So that's fun. Love a pundit space. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Those lights are what we call all out war, David. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Yes, they are, Johnny. [00:58:10] Speaker A: I see the lights flying around, everyone fighting all the time. [00:58:13] Speaker B: Every time I visit Oklahoma, I step outside and I look at the sky and I see all the stars, and I say, you see all those lights? It's all that. Yeah, we got the scorched fighting Senator Terminus and his saints, I guess, is what they're calling him. His saintly crew, the two saint crew. They're just fighting. They're just fighting. And they're fighting. And they capu. And then when they smash and they're talking about how good versus evil is played out across this universe billions of times. And it's mostly because of greed. Because greed is the most detestable of the sins. It's existed forever. [00:58:56] Speaker A: Is it out of the. It's the grossest one in seven. Is that what you mean? [00:59:03] Speaker B: No, because through the course of these spawn issues, every time that the sins come up, it's always greed is the worst of the sins. [00:59:14] Speaker A: No, the worst of the sins is lust. HavE you seen the movie seven? [00:59:19] Speaker B: I have seen the movie seven, but I don't remember was lust. [00:59:22] Speaker A: I'm just teasing. I've tried to make a joke. [00:59:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that you tried to make a joke, but I haven't seen the movie seven recently enough to remember what disgusting thing. [00:59:31] Speaker A: I just watched it. [00:59:32] Speaker B: David, tell me what he did to lust. Because I forgot. Didn't he, like, inject lust? [00:59:37] Speaker A: He holds a gun to a guy's head, puts it in his mouth, and makes him put on a strap on with a knife on the end and have sex with a sex worker. [00:59:45] Speaker B: That's fucked up. [00:59:47] Speaker A: They don't show it, they describe it. [00:59:52] Speaker B: That's what Kevin Spacey does in his regular free time, though, right? Fuck that guy. [00:59:59] Speaker A: Got him. Yeah. No, and greed in seven is the one the guy has to. He does the Merchant of Venice, where he has to cut off a pound of flesh. He goes to the love handles that kills him. [01:00:12] Speaker B: The only one I remember is gluttony. [01:00:16] Speaker A: Yeah, the guy that ate himself to. [01:00:18] Speaker B: Death, that gets force fed Spaghetti sauce. And then I know there's the. What's in the box? What's in the box? I'll tell you what's in the box, Johnny. A whole bunch of Spawn comics. But speaking of twist endings, we have here ourselves a twist, because the Finch man, while not sold 100% on his twists as a M. Night Shyamalan, is still tends to have a twist in his movies. Right? [01:00:56] Speaker A: And then a lot of them are twisty. [01:00:58] Speaker B: And then here's the twist in this one. Spawn's got Senator Terminus dead to rights, and then he gets double crossed by Urizin. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Yeah. What the fuck? [01:01:09] Speaker B: What the fuck? Erazin says that the planet Eaters have promised to give him life after the planet. And then immediately, Senator Hermes is like, okay, I'm going to mix the hell blood with my saints, and it'll make them super powerful. And then you know what fucker is in. [01:01:32] Speaker A: I don't need you. I'm going to blind you with the spear of Longinus. [01:01:35] Speaker B: Yeah. So these saints get turned into Blood beasts, and they're real spooky guys. Real spooky characters. [01:01:46] Speaker A: Like Diablo characters. [01:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah. And they're overwhelming the hell team. They're fourth down and ten, Johnny. The hell team. And the saints look like they're ready to just trample over them. And then what happens? The glorious umpire comes out and says, hey, you guys are fuckers. You know what this fuckery needs? It needs a she spawn. [01:02:18] Speaker A: He needs a she spawn to come. [01:02:20] Speaker B: And so. So Gaia has returned her from the dead. They're still infected with the disease brought by these intruders because Gaia is angry, angry at those who left this woman in a grave, caring even less for this woman's daughter becoming an orphan. So Mother Gaia is pissed both as basically the earth and as a mother. And she says, us mothers got to stick together, and I'm going to bring you back. Breaks up this whole sausage fest of boys fighting over the. It's a whole bunch of little boys fighting for the hill. And Guy is like, up. Sends the she spawn in, and then we get the opening reading is the very last line of the book, Joni. [01:03:11] Speaker A: To fight you want. Then rise. Face the wrath of the she spawn. And she's coming down like Jesus returning or descending into heaven. The opposite. [01:03:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Descending from heaven. [01:03:24] Speaker A: What's going to happen next year when the Rapture happens? Because we're at the end of the world. [01:03:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:30] Speaker A: We're all going to be sitting there, and the Rapture is going to happen. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Going to get raptured. And then we got scorched skull there. We got some spotting grounds here, Johnny. The SDCC 23 23 roundup. [01:03:46] Speaker A: Yes. [01:03:47] Speaker B: Some cool shit. Got pictures of the Todd father and a picture of the toddfather. Then another picture of the toddfather. Then the toddfather again. Then the todfather is one of his own toys. [01:03:58] Speaker A: Yep. [01:04:01] Speaker B: And we got also Steven Segovia, Donogu, J. Scott Campbell's in there. Jason, Sean Alexander. Looking a little less frightening than I would have expected him to. [01:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Considering his spooky very. [01:04:17] Speaker B: He's a very good looking man, Johnny. That means that all that grotesquery lives in his brain and. Whoo. Don't want to be wandering through that brain. [01:04:29] Speaker A: I like the Tod McFarlane in the action figure box. [01:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fun. He's also signing a denim jacket that somebody painted a spawn on. It's fucking dope. I wish he had told us who made that. Oh, we can shout out their Instagram, but unfortunately, especially because you see on the left arm, it's got, like, the spiky bands on it. So it's like a half of an spawn costume. That's so dope. [01:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I can see that. [01:05:00] Speaker B: They should make long sleeve spawn shirts and put that shit on there, God damn it. [01:05:05] Speaker A: I think there is a spawn hoodie you can buy. [01:05:08] Speaker B: Going to have to look into it. And then we get the rest of the books ads, the image classics ads, McFarland's dragons taking up the rear space there. [01:05:19] Speaker A: Look at that dragon. [01:05:21] Speaker B: That's Scorch 21, Johnny. [01:05:24] Speaker A: That is Scorch 21. A wild, wacky issue. [01:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah, wild, wild. And, Johnny, I do believe that there are a couple of puppies in issue 321 that we need to rate. Good dogs. Both. There are, there are two dogs, bad owner, good dogs. [01:05:42] Speaker A: Well, they're bad dogs, but they turn good. Yeah, it's time to rate the puppies. So. Yeah, first up we have that 321 featuring the two dogs. That's all I remember about two dogs in it. [01:06:02] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:06:03] Speaker A: This is a heavy issue. [01:06:06] Speaker B: This is a hard one to rate for me, Johnny. It starts off with some wild Todd fatherness that I would consider just maybe the Todd father could have used somebody saying, hey, maybe cut that down a little bit. Hey, cut that down a little bit. And then goes immediately wild, yelling immediately into the heaviest shit in the galaxy. So it's like pure black matter there. Dark matter. Dark matter is what it's called. Then cuts to a fun little goof. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Them up with the helmet following him around. [01:06:50] Speaker B: Mark being haunted by. It's like Mark Rosen in the Haunted outfit or the haunted. [01:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just like, boop. Hello. I can't get away from. [01:07:02] Speaker B: Tone. [01:07:02] Speaker A: The tone contains multitudes. [01:07:04] Speaker B: Tone is wild. I'm going to have to give this a pure middle of the road. Pure middle of the road. What's the thing that I'm going to give it? I'm going to give it three pre published proofs of Grant Morrison's invisibles because it's a good issue, but also a bad issue, but also a very emotionally disturbing issue. So it's just got to be right in the middle. Just right in the middle. [01:07:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I was also going to give it three, but I'm going to give it three derelict warehouses from the previously on yeah, because when are we going to find out about the warehouse? [01:07:51] Speaker B: I mean, is Cygor still there? [01:07:55] Speaker A: What's going on? What were they building at the warehouse? What were they storing there? What wares? [01:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah, what wares are they housing, you say? [01:08:04] Speaker A: Yes. [01:08:05] Speaker B: So there's a series called Grumble. That's about a man, he's like a magic thief, and at one point he accidentally turns himself into, or, no, he gets turned into a pug as a punishment. And within this series, there's a warehouse. Not a warehouse like a house that holds wares, but like a warehouse in the terms of, like a werewolf. So it's this guy that's always a guy, except for during the full moon, he turns into a house. People pay him lots of money to store stuff in him when he's a house, but they can only access it on the full moon. So the rest of the time he's just a guy. [01:09:02] Speaker A: That's interesting. [01:09:02] Speaker B: Comics are amazing, you guys. Comics fucking rule. [01:09:06] Speaker A: Warehouse. [01:09:07] Speaker B: Warehouse. But so then rating Scorch 21. Johnny, I want to hear your thoughts on Scorch 21. [01:09:16] Speaker A: I thought it was wild. I love just like all these reveal after reveal. Like, you turn the page. Boom. Greenworld's there. [01:09:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:25] Speaker A: Boom. Medieval or Mandarin Spawn's there. Boom. Uruzan's there. Boom. Terminus. [01:09:32] Speaker B: Boom. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Boom. Boom. Boom. It's just like so much going on. And I wasn't the biggest fan of the early Terminus stuff. It was just so Gonzo and crazy. Yeah, I love it. And like a wild issue. [01:09:48] Speaker B: I'm going. [01:09:48] Speaker A: To give it Four Saints weapons. [01:09:51] Speaker B: Nice. Which four weapons? [01:09:55] Speaker A: I'm going to give it the mace or the ball and chamber. That's called a flay. What is that called? [01:10:02] Speaker B: I think that's a mace. Because if it weren't a ball with Spikes on it, it would be a flail. [01:10:11] Speaker A: Okay, give it the mace, the sword, the bow and the spear. [01:10:19] Speaker B: Don't they actually spell out what they have at one point? [01:10:23] Speaker A: Yeah, they say it. I think we missed. [01:10:26] Speaker B: You're, you're taking the Spear of Longinus, the Boa of St. Sebastian, the shield of St. Peter. But it doesn't say what the flail is or the, the. Yeah. [01:10:37] Speaker A: What kind of saints using a man. [01:10:40] Speaker B: Well, that's, that's cheap. You gotta think of who's the saint that you could put the mace on. [01:10:46] Speaker A: George. [01:10:47] Speaker B: George. Okay. St. George versus the Dragon. [01:10:50] Speaker A: He killed the dragon with a mace. [01:10:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy, that would be wild. [01:10:54] Speaker A: I love how St. George killed the dragon. It's probably just like a guy went and killed a big snake or like. [01:11:01] Speaker B: He was on a long voyage and saw a Komodo dragon and was like, the fuck is that thing? Let's kill it. [01:11:08] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:11:10] Speaker B: I'm also going to give it four, I'm going to give it these four blood beasts because they're pretty dope each of them is changed in one very specific way. It's kind of wild. I'd like to see. They're very much like different masters of the universe figures in this, where each difference, you know, has a specific advantage that it gives them. But there's no time to get into what that advantage is because, spoiler alert, they don't last very long. But I do like that each of them has a different design once they've been mixed with the hell blood. [01:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah. There's one with no mouth. There's one with four eyes. [01:11:58] Speaker B: There's the one with, like. [01:11:59] Speaker A: I'm not talking glasses. [01:12:00] Speaker B: Yeah, there's the one with the spikies all over his forearms. There's the one in the back that is just like, all shoulders and neck. [01:12:08] Speaker A: He's like super tall and big. [01:12:11] Speaker B: So that's those puppies rated, Johnny. [01:12:14] Speaker A: Hell, yeah, we rated them. We did it. [01:12:15] Speaker B: We did some good books. Some good books. I like looking at things that look good, Johnny. And do you know something that looks good? [01:12:29] Speaker A: Either more spawn or someone on the Internet. [01:12:32] Speaker B: It's definitely someone on the Internet. [01:12:34] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Who looks good? [01:12:36] Speaker B: Who looks good? So I'm looking at him right now. You know him. You met him. It's punk G. Met him at Punk G. 42 homes of the Spawn museum. Just to blow up their spot a little bit. They just came off a spawn con, right. They're saying that they're now having to help their Wanda at another single IP convention. And he is at a my little pony convention holding it down. And I'm not going to lie, it looks fucking awesome. The thematic whiplash of being at a spawn convention one weekend and then the next weekend being at a My little pony convention. That's wild. That's wild. [01:13:24] Speaker A: But, yeah, it is wild. They probably pretty fun. [01:13:27] Speaker B: Have a whole bunch of shit. And it's really cool. And not to be too self serving, but they do have a contest going on in which one of the prizes, Johnny, I recognize one of the prizes that they're giving out. It's a little response sticker. [01:13:52] Speaker A: That's cool. [01:13:53] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:13:57] Speaker A: We did it. [01:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I like having stickers. [01:14:00] Speaker A: I do like having stickers. It's fun. [01:14:02] Speaker B: I like giving away stickers. We're going to have to buy a shit ton more stickers, Johnny. I am much too generous with the stickers. [01:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah. I gave everyone a swan, Hong Kong. They would take one. I gave them like two. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I passed them out to everybody at work. Maybe I shouldn't pass them out at work, but no, fuck it. I did it. I passed them out at work. We're occasionally slapping them around town. They're going to get covered over with brown paint. But that's fine. They're still out there. [01:14:30] Speaker A: That's fine. Then we'll just put another one up. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Yeah. While you're over at Instagram entering that contest from punk G 42, trying to get a sticker from us, you should visit Brian Voyals at Brian Underscore. Voyals underscore 27. He does our music. Thank you very much for the music, Brian. It kicks ass. Also, we're over there. We're showing our books, our stuff, our faces, our know everything. Our cats. I don't think we've gotten very much Barbie yet, but she'll be there. [01:15:05] Speaker A: One and a half. [01:15:08] Speaker B: That's fine. We're regarding spawn pod, then. Also, if you have any questions or anything you want to just have any questions or anything, want to ask know things, write us a message that we can read on air. Because if you send us an email, Johnny said that he would read it. That's regarding [email protected]. And Johnny, I know you usually ask a question for people to use as a prompt to send us an email because we like getting emails from you all. [01:15:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:47] Speaker B: Since we're talking about these stickers that we're excited about and we're excited about giving stickers away, what would you feel about turning them into an incentive? Say, I like that. Hey, hey. If you send us an email and Johnny reads it on air, we're going to send you a sticker. [01:16:09] Speaker A: I like that. [01:16:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's real nice. [01:16:11] Speaker A: Yeah. We'll either reach out if you send us an email and we'll get your address and we'll send you some. Or just put your address in the email and we'll send you some stickers. [01:16:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And this goes for anything that you send us email wise, we'll draw them. [01:16:26] Speaker A: You just write an email that says, give me the stickers. [01:16:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's lazy. We're not going to. [01:16:32] Speaker A: Okay, you can. I'll read it on air. I'll say, give me the stickers. [01:16:37] Speaker B: We should have some editorial oversight on that. And there should be less, I don't. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Know, like a minimum word count. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Or like actual discussion. I don't know. We'll figure out how we're going to gatekeep this as it goes on. So I guess if Johnny says it's okay and he reads it and he. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Says that someone writes, give me the stickers, I think that's hilarious. [01:16:59] Speaker B: Well, I think it would work for the first, like, the first, give me the stickers email we get. We can probably get the stickers, too. So then it'll be a mad dash. It'll literally be the first one that crosses our desk. And then the rest of y'all will just get consolation prizes. [01:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta work. [01:17:17] Speaker B: And then that reading off will just be Johnny saying, and from name, give me the spawn stickers. And from name, give me the spawn stickers. [01:17:26] Speaker A: But no, the whole episode of me saying that. [01:17:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So if you send us an email, we're going to give you a spawn sticker. And that'll be fun. So, hell, yeah, get some stickers. Send us some emails. [01:17:38] Speaker A: I love. [01:17:38] Speaker B: Nice. Nice. Okay, and, Johnny, do you like doing this? [01:17:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:47] Speaker B: Do you want to do this again? [01:17:49] Speaker A: Let's do it again next week. [01:17:50] Speaker B: Well, then we're going to have to read ourselves some more ding dang books because we can't cover these two again. That's too emotionally distressing. [01:17:59] Speaker A: ThaT would be too emotionally distressing. [01:18:01] Speaker B: So we're going to have to choose some more books. We're going to have to roll the dice. We're going to have to spin this roulette reel and figure out what we're going to read for the next episode, Johnny. [01:18:12] Speaker A: Okay. I think I know you think you know. [01:18:14] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah. We're going to read the next line of the classics, so. Spawn 322, easy. [01:18:20] Speaker B: That was an easy one, Johnny. Even a dog. [01:18:23] Speaker A: Then we're going to be reading 345 of the more modern. [01:18:26] Speaker B: What? Oh, my God. You got it right on the button, Johnny. Right on the button. It's a double main title. I love a double title week. [01:18:35] Speaker A: Bam, bam. Doing two issues of main title Spawn next time. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Double barberry, too, man. [01:18:44] Speaker A: Double barberry. Unless, like, someone, we decide to do a weird interview or anything random that we have been doing the last two weeks. [01:18:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know where I feel. [01:18:52] Speaker A: Like it's like, this is what we're doing next week. Then it always changes. [01:18:55] Speaker B: Yeah, you know what, Johnny? It happens. [01:18:59] Speaker A: It happens. [01:19:01] Speaker B: Somebody's going to hear this episode, and they're going to be like, oh, they're turning into a Spiderman podcast. Hell, yeah. I'll read Spiderman one for next week. Why don't you just hedge your bets and read the first appearance of Spiderman for next week, too, just in case we cover it. I don't know what that is, so I'll have to actually look into it. Wait, it's like amazing fantasy, isn't it? So, yeah, amazing fantasy. Read Amazing fantasy number 15 for next week. It will only count if you open your highest graded slabbed copy of Amazing Fantasy 15 to read Spiderman. If you're not opening that to read it, don't even bother coming back, Joni. We're here to lessen the value of collectibles through them being used for reading. [01:19:48] Speaker A: That's what we want to do. [01:19:50] Speaker B: Do read that. Just in case I follow up on my threats to be all Spiderman all the time. We got books we're going to read for next week. We got friends that we want you to follow and love and be cool with on the Instagrams because Instagram is actually pretty dope, especially the sponge community there. We've got an email address. You've got marching orders to go out and like and subscribe and tell your friends and family. It's pretty cool. We got the books we're going to read for next week. You know what, Johnny? I think that means? [01:20:27] Speaker A: What? [01:20:28] Speaker B: That I have nothing to say. I have nothing else to say to you, good sir. But may the scorched be with you. [01:20:36] Speaker A: And also with you, good sir. [01:20:40] Speaker B: Yes, splendid. Splendid. [01:20:42] Speaker A: All right, so pull up your copy of Amazing Fantasy 15. And it starts off with everyone just sitting around. You see? They're like making fun of Peter Parker. Everyone's like, look at that bookworm. Wouldn't you know, from a cha cha. From a waltz. This is the real first page reading. [01:21:05] Speaker B: I wouldn't know a cha cha from a waltz, would I? No, I wouldn't know a cha cha cha. [01:21:08] Speaker A: Hey, gang, we need one more guy for the dance. How about Peter Parker over there? [01:21:12] Speaker B: Are you kidding? [01:21:13] Speaker A: That bookworm wouldn't know a cha cha from a waltz. Peter Parker? He's midtown size only. Professional wallflower.