RE:Spawn Episode 67 - Spawns 323 and Gunslinger Spawn 24

[00:00:00] Speaker A: He transforms back to his natural state, saying nothing as the glint of his bowie knife catches the moonlight. He is not planning on wasting any of his time with this low level. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Punk, so he's going to make this quicker. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Good evening, and welcome to the Malbolge. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:55] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, it's not so lonely in the Spawn recording booth today. [00:01:06] Speaker A: Oh, no, you got a guest. [00:01:08] Speaker B: I have a guest. I have a guest right here. I have a guest. Revealed at the end of our last episode. [00:01:15] Speaker A: Watching over you. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Yeah. So at the end of the last episode, for those that may have skipped it, we opened some Spawn trading cards. And I just have a member of Spawn's Universe watching over me. [00:01:28] Speaker A: Very important and very specifically spawn the movie trading cards. [00:01:32] Speaker B: Yes, spawn the movie trading cards. [00:01:35] Speaker A: And why is that important for this particular character? [00:01:38] Speaker B: Why is that important indeed? Well, Johnny, if you'll remember, I talked about one particular person who had one particular aspect, and it's Terry Fitzgerald. It's DB. Sweeney's terry Fitzgerald, or as we call him on the show, White Terry. [00:01:54] Speaker A: White Terry. [00:01:56] Speaker B: He's watching over me, making sure that I'm not doing anything wrong. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Hey, I wouldn't want the wrath of White Terry. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Actually, the more I look at it, the more unsettled I am, because when they took the picture, his eyes are, like, just off center, staring just to the left of me. And it's eerie. I might have to abandon this mid record, but I'm sticking. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Cover it up, put a blanket over it. [00:02:27] Speaker B: I don't want to do anything embarrassing in the sight of our Lord. White Terry. [00:02:33] Speaker A: I thought you'd have that Jessica Priest one watching over you. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Johnny, the audio to that would be unsubmittable for other people's listening. Be like it would just be me being boobs, boob, boobs. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Much like a lot like the early episodes of the show yeah. [00:02:58] Speaker B: Where I could only say the word Spawn. Now I would be only able to say the word boobs. I would be like a Pokemon. Boobies, boobies, boobies. [00:03:07] Speaker A: You're going to get canceled. Here comes a bonk. A bonk. Incoming. Bonk. [00:03:14] Speaker B: I needed that. I needed that. Thank you very much. There you go. [00:03:18] Speaker A: Well, welcome, everyone. Welcome to Regarding Spawn, where each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's Universe. Spawn's Universe with a not white Terry. Usually, unless we cover the movie, which we will one day, I guess it's like a big looming it's like the doughboys and McDonald's. I imagine we'll cover it leading up to the new movie. [00:03:44] Speaker B: I hope it's not like the doughboys, McDonald's, where they vowed that that will be their final episode. [00:03:51] Speaker A: No, we don't want to do that. [00:03:52] Speaker B: No, just that if we vow to have it be our last episode, that's going to be a very long time before we get there be a very. [00:04:00] Speaker A: Long time before we cover it. [00:04:02] Speaker B: And then potentially could never cover it. [00:04:03] Speaker A: No, we'll probably cover the movie leading up to the new movie, I would imagine. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Oh, that johnny that would be a. [00:04:09] Speaker A: That should be the bit leading up to the movie. We have four episodes about the movie with a different guest each time. [00:04:15] Speaker B: That would be great because it's really. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Easy to get people to guess about a movie. You can just watch a movie. [00:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:20] Speaker A: We'll talk about spawn the movie. It's spawn the Movie Month. [00:04:25] Speaker B: If only it were in. Hopefully it has an October release, so it could be Spontember for September. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Spontimber? [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:33] Speaker A: If it's July, it'd just be Spawn. Spawn, lie, spoon, spoo. I bet it's a fall or a March release. It might take that sweet March spot that a lot of adult comic book movies used to take, like 300 and V for Vendetta. [00:04:58] Speaker B: It's so far away from award season that you don't have to worry about what's the word I'm looking for? The prestige sort of dramas taking away any action. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Right? [00:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:12] Speaker A: But no, this isn't about Spawn the movie. We're about two issues from Spawn's Universe yet. It isn't yet. That's a teaser. But today we have two issues. We have a mainline Spawn issue, 323. We're filling in that gap between the kind of reboot jumping on point of 297 going up until when we started the show here, which was somewhere in the what? [00:05:37] Speaker B: Two thirty s. I could tell you precisely where it was. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Precisely where it was. [00:05:42] Speaker B: We started doing it 333 30. [00:05:48] Speaker A: So we got just a few more. Wow. So, yeah, we're going from 297 to 330. So we're filling in that gap, bring you up to date, then we're going to go do some other fun stuff. But that's our first issue. It's Spawn 323 all the way back from October 2021. So this was born in Spooky season. [00:06:12] Speaker B: It's got Spooky season written all over it. [00:06:14] Speaker A: Johnny it does. Especially with one of the covers that I have, which we'll get to, which. [00:06:18] Speaker B: Is probably the COVID I have as well. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Interesting. But before we get too far ahead of ourselves, the second issue we'll be covering today is Gunslinger 24, which is monumental because it is Bret Booth's, as of now, his final issue of Gunslinger, he's switching over to mainline Swan. [00:06:38] Speaker B: Monumental for many reasons other than that, too. [00:06:41] Speaker A: Holy crap. [00:06:44] Speaker B: This issue is like the seed for they're like, here's a whole bunch of stuff for you, tod father. Go with it. [00:06:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Wild. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a it's real interesting. With a really unexpected and gruesome ending for Brett Booth, if that is indeed his final panel of Gunslinger. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Although, in all honesty, it looks like he had fun with so oh, yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker A: As much fun as you can have with it. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Yeah. But we can discuss that when we get there. [00:07:15] Speaker A: We'll get there. We'll get there. I'm putting the cart before the horse. I'm putting the Gunslinger before the spawn. [00:07:20] Speaker B: David. [00:07:23] Speaker A: You can't do spawn first. [00:07:25] Speaker B: No. [00:07:26] Speaker A: So we were talking about how it was came in October 2021, Spooky season. I was buying Spawn at this point. This is when I was, like, into it. Into it. This is probably about the time I started texting you being like, hey, this is Spawn Guy, eh? [00:07:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So this is probably like a month or two before I actually started picking it up. But it was one that there was still on the shelf, so I was able to pick it up. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. But it was around that have my reading copy. Here is a really awesome Spawn cover where it's by Bjorn Barons. [00:08:03] Speaker B: That's the one I have as well. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Well, there's two different ones, sort of by Bjorn Barons. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:08:09] Speaker A: So I have one with spawn and some wolves. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the one I have. [00:08:14] Speaker A: Okay, well, there's another one, I believe. Is that what I want? Pure imperiums? Yeah, it is. [00:08:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. This is what we talked about last week. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah, this is why I was saying it'd be good for Spooky season, but yeah, the one I have is Spawn. The one that I'm reading is spawn, like, in the middle of a field, like maybe icy field. And he's raised some wolves. Zombies? Wolves. Like the zombie bear in Annihilation? [00:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. That thing freaked me the fuck out. [00:08:45] Speaker A: It's scary. [00:08:47] Speaker B: I talked to so many people who were like, yeah, that was fucking dumb. And it was like, what are you talking about? [00:08:53] Speaker A: Really? Everyone I knew thought it was fucking terrible. [00:08:54] Speaker B: That was one of the most frightening things I have ever witnessed in the. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Way it breathed and stuff. Yeah. I'd imagine these wolves would breathe a similar way to that bear on Annihilation. The Zombie. He's he's bottom up. They're in a boneyard. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Speaking of the bear from Annihilation, Johnny, the puggy is going off, and we'll be all over this half of the recording. [00:09:20] Speaker A: All right? [00:09:20] Speaker B: So if you hear silence that pug. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Silence that pug. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Where were we? Oh, yeah, the bear in Annihilation. Yeah. [00:09:38] Speaker A: And he's raised these wolves. He's like he's in the Misfit song. Dig up her bones. Dig up her bones. Shout out to the spawn fiend. [00:09:52] Speaker B: Yeah, all the original Fiends who were probably I have a feeling that being a fiend very naturally lent to being a Spawn fan when it dropped in. [00:10:04] Speaker A: The early, you know yeah, well, the guy who's saying dig up her bones wasn't an original fiend. That's the guy that replaced not Dan Danzig. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:16] Speaker A: Michael Graves, I believe his name is. [00:10:19] Speaker B: That's cool. That's like graves. Get it? Yeah. Johnny I don't get it. You'll have to explain it to that's. Basically that's basically the story of Tom Healy going from comic book store guy to editor in chief of all spawn titles. [00:10:36] Speaker A: You just go from being some guy to singing the misfits? [00:10:39] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. That'd be pretty dope, though. [00:10:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Great. Bjorn barons cover. Love the wolves. [00:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:47] Speaker A: In a boneyard. But there's another Bjorn Baron's cover for 323. And it's clown. Clown, baby clown at a house where there is hilariously. A Captain America, Batman and Wonder Woman trick or treating. And there's a little chibi spawn to the right. I see it. He's like a squash. Yeah. Rag doll. Or is he made out of gourds? [00:11:24] Speaker B: He's got little button eyes, so I think he's a rag doll. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, he's a rag doll. Spawn doll. He got some skulls, but yeah, it's the clown sitting on a porch. And Captain America, Batman and Wonder Woman are trick or treating and Clowns holding a human heart and a potato heart. [00:11:42] Speaker B: No, it's a human heart eyeball with an eyeball attached to it for some reason and a brain with little cocktail swords in it. [00:11:55] Speaker A: Delicious. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:56] Speaker A: And it's classic Clown with his striped. [00:11:59] Speaker B: Shirt and button, his belly just sticking out. [00:12:03] Speaker A: His belly just sticking all the way out. [00:12:07] Speaker B: A little warning demon sign with a picture of the violator on it, the base of the stairs. [00:12:13] Speaker A: I don't think these kids are going to want these brains or these hearts. I don't know. [00:12:17] Speaker B: That Batman sure seems ready to take it off his hands, though. [00:12:22] Speaker A: Yeah, he's eager. He's like, Give me that eyeball. Yeah, it's amazing variant cover I got. It also has a sign pointing to him that says the king. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Which sounds like a dis at Spawn. What, the clown the real king? Yeah. [00:12:43] Speaker B: Never. [00:12:44] Speaker A: How could he do it? [00:12:46] Speaker B: How dare he? [00:12:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it's another October spooky cover. And then there's a third cover, a Tod McFarlane cover. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Think that's what it says? It's Spawn impaled from the back with a sword. And it's got some cool it's basically black and white, except for the red parts of Spawn's cape and the green necroplasm. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Okay, what kind of just a yeah. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Just just a sword and some white light in the good. It's good. I like it. [00:13:17] Speaker A: We like the Tod father. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't like it more than the Bjorn barons cover, but it is a solid cover. [00:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah, bjorn barons did a double whammy on this one, man. [00:13:27] Speaker B: He did ABB. [00:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's because he is double b. Yeah. [00:13:31] Speaker B: BB a barons bombardment is what he did. Double whammy. Double barberry. Not barber. Barberry barons. I'm getting my double Bjorn barons. [00:13:43] Speaker A: What? You got your bees mixed up, buddy? [00:13:46] Speaker B: My Bee Artists on Spawn. Mixed up, Johnny. [00:13:49] Speaker A: You sure are. [00:13:51] Speaker B: I think we need to clarify who is who from this credits page. [00:13:56] Speaker A: Let's do it. So we got kind of a new flipping the script. Looks like a little baton pass here a little bit. Because you got Tod McFarland on script plot on this issue. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. And Rory McConville pulling up some rory? [00:14:17] Speaker A: So Maury McConville is the one that takes over. [00:14:24] Speaker B: Though, even though both of them are credited. The Toddfather definitely did more work in this book because as far as plot goes, there's a little bit of plot, and most of it is talking back and forth. [00:14:37] Speaker A: A lot of script. [00:14:39] Speaker B: A lot of script. [00:14:42] Speaker A: We got Carlo Barberry and Thomas Natchlick doing art. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Doing a couple of Thomas Nashlick does. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Pages 18 to 20. Tom orchachowski on lettering. And we got two colorists as well. We got J. David Ramos doing the colors for Carlo Barberi. And then nico kautsis. Sorry if I butcher that. Doing pages 18 to 20. [00:15:07] Speaker B: That's the colorist I mean, Johnny, I don't speak no Greek, so you probably did it better than I did. Than I could have. [00:15:15] Speaker A: All right. Hey, it's all Greek to me. [00:15:19] Speaker B: Hey, we covered the covers. And what wonderful covers they are. [00:15:23] Speaker A: The Wonderful Covers of Bjorn. [00:15:27] Speaker B: We're off to see the covers. [00:15:29] Speaker A: We're off to see the covers. The Wonderful Covers Of Born bjorn. [00:15:37] Speaker B: And Tod father's, the Creative director, Thomas Healy's. The editor. He's not editor in chieft yet because I guess only course number one is. [00:15:47] Speaker A: Where he becomes it. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So all four ongoing titles aren't currently ongoing at this point. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Sad. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:57] Speaker A: We're anticipating the scorch, and we get a nice little ad for it at the back of this issue. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Yeah, like a double ad. They talk about it in the spotting grounds, but we're getting ahead of ourselves, Johnny. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God. All right, so previously in Spawn a blackout still encompasses the small town of Montrose after Spawn's battle with a vampire turned kidnapper. But now he sees even more company lurking in the dark. [00:16:27] Speaker B: I don't understand why vampire turned kidnapper needed to be in quotation marks. Like, he's literally a vampire who kidnaps people. [00:16:39] Speaker A: It's what he is. [00:16:40] Speaker B: That's what he is. [00:16:44] Speaker A: Oh, boy. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Wonderful. We start off, Johnny, we're back at that cabin in the woods. Cabin in the woods. Yeah. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Is that a song? [00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's from that terrible Evil Dead, the musical. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Oh, right, great. [00:17:03] Speaker B: Yeah, that exists. I'd go to it. I'd pay to be in the splash zone. That would be fun. [00:17:11] Speaker A: I'd see it. I don't know. Whatever. [00:17:15] Speaker B: It happens. [00:17:16] Speaker A: Fuck it. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Fuck it. [00:17:18] Speaker A: The music's not very good. [00:17:20] Speaker B: No, the writing for the music is not like the writing of the lyrics is not very good. [00:17:25] Speaker A: That's what I mean. [00:17:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:27] Speaker A: I just remember the song. What the fuck was that? [00:17:30] Speaker B: What the fuck was that? Your sister has turned into a zombie. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Yes, that's exactly that's terrible. [00:17:41] Speaker B: It does have the immortal line, bitch just ripped my pre. Ripped abercrombie in it, though. Johnny and that's some golden lyricism if I've ever heard. [00:17:53] Speaker A: I forgot they said it in my contemporary, too, so it bugs me. Abercrombie. [00:18:01] Speaker B: It definitely takes the inherent misogynism misogyny of budget horror and makes it just, like, plain text in the lyrics, and it makes me sad. They could be a little nicer to the ladies in that show. But that's not what we're here for. No rant from David's today. We ain't got time for that. [00:18:26] Speaker A: This isn't Movie, the musical podcast. [00:18:28] Speaker B: Ain't nobody got time for that. [00:18:32] Speaker A: Is that another one for that fucking. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Was? Oh, hold on. I'm going to have to fucking look it up. [00:18:39] Speaker A: This is our music podcast where David sings songs and I ask what they are. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it was Jennifer Lewis and Brandy just, like, filming themselves in one of their okay. And it's they're singing. I don't want nobody fucking with me in these streets. [00:19:00] Speaker A: Okay? [00:19:02] Speaker B: It's absolutely fucking wonderful. If you haven't seen it, I'm going to have to click on a link and send it to you. It's only like 45 seconds long. So you should probably go ahead and watch it, like right now? [00:19:17] Speaker A: Right now? [00:19:19] Speaker B: You can watch it later. But I just sent it to you. It's absolutely wonderful. [00:19:24] Speaker A: All right, I'll watch it later. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Okay. We could watch it on the podcast. We could just put the audio no. Okay. Shit. What were we doing? Oh, we opened out a cabin in the woods. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Johnny cabin in the woods. Oh, no, we're doing it again. [00:19:42] Speaker B: We're stuck in a wood, johnny this one is produced, written and directed by Whedon, my favorite. Great. [00:19:50] Speaker A: Speaking of being mean to women. [00:19:55] Speaker B: Did we cancel ourselves yet? [00:19:57] Speaker A: Johnny, you were talking about boobs. Now we're talking about Joss Whedon. [00:20:00] Speaker B: I think it's done all right. Like us, subscribe to us, leave us, know all that good stuff. We might not be back ever again. The podcast police are going to get into johnny I think this is a classic. We just don't want to get into the issue because I think it is too. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Let's just go to the second page. [00:20:21] Speaker B: All right. [00:20:21] Speaker A: There's a fucking cabin of the woods. It's dark. There's a shitload of text explaining that it's dark. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's so dark, it's mysteriously and magically dark. And like, the power company has spent a week trying to be like, we don't know why it's dark. [00:20:39] Speaker A: Also, Spawn's been hanging out at this place for fucking ever. [00:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:43] Speaker A: He was there for five days. Tortured the guy last week from Monday to Friday. And now he's still there a week later. [00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like his new vacation home. He's decided to take some time, some time just for himself. And he's hanging out at this fucking creepy vampire kidnapped, torture, rape cabin. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Then some fucking freak I could think of down. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:09] Speaker A: I don't know. He's got like a red clothes. He's like trying to be gunslinger or some shit. Yeah, he's got a red coat and some chains. But he's a vampire called Rebirth. [00:21:21] Speaker B: Rebirth. The tom father. Forgot a little colon there between the re and the birth. Johnny, we're going to have to oh. [00:21:30] Speaker A: Right, because that's respawn. [00:21:32] Speaker B: We're going to have to tell him a thing or two. [00:21:36] Speaker A: He's, like, the leader of this little gang of vampires, I guess. [00:21:39] Speaker B: You got Indiana Jones vampire, you got 80s punk vampire. [00:21:45] Speaker A: You've got a guy John Constantine. [00:21:48] Speaker B: You got random lady vampire. You got, like, high school jock vampire, a whole bunch. You just got the whole gamut, like all those sort of background characters. We got them. [00:22:06] Speaker A: So he's like, wait outside. I'm going to get spawn. [00:22:09] Speaker B: Although it is good to know that they gave the punk with the Mohawk, they gave him black laces on his boots instead of red laces. So he might be a vampire, but at least he ain't no Nazi. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Red laces means you're a Nazi. [00:22:23] Speaker B: Yeah. If you ever see anybody in punk get up with their big black boots and they've got red laces, they're more likely than not to be Nazis. [00:22:34] Speaker A: I didn't know that. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Did you ever see Green Room with sir? [00:22:38] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, I see green room. Yeah, I saw it, but I don't remember everything about it because it's the. [00:22:43] Speaker B: White power skinhead bar. And when he's like, we got to call in all the people, red laces only. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? [00:22:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Well, yeah. This guy's, like me, only tells everyone to wait outside. They grumble with dissatisfaction. [00:23:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Can I say, Johnny, that the grille of that Chevy truck is done really well? [00:23:08] Speaker A: It is. That truck's drawn very well. [00:23:11] Speaker B: I have a certain appreciation for somebody who can draw the Chevy Chevron and have it look close to what it's supposed to be, because I went through a Chevy phase when I was, like, seven or eight, and I could never get that goddamn thing to look right. Deceptively hard when you're a child who don't know nothing about drawing. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Hey, man, I can't draw shit. The thing I can draw is a card. [00:23:40] Speaker B: That'S good every year. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Magic of the Gathering, every year for. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Her birthday, I give Wanda a birthday card that has a Chihuahua that I draw in it, because the joke was that I'd promised to give her Chihuahua for her birthday every year, and hand drawn cartoons of Chihuahuas counts as giving her a Chihuahua, and they look like rats. Just straight up rats. It's hilarious. [00:24:07] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:24:08] Speaker B: She's always excited to see what new form of rat like Chihuahua I give her. [00:24:16] Speaker A: It's like the urban legend. Yeah, you bring the rat home from Mexico and the sewer rat that thinks the Chihuahua oh, man, I was watching Pluto TV, and they had urban legend Bloody Mary on. Oh, man, she was hilarious. It was so funny. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Pluto TV is great. [00:24:33] Speaker A: This girl it was like, killing people through urban legends, obviously. [00:24:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:37] Speaker A: And so it was the one with the spider and the pimple where she popped a pimple and a million spiders came. [00:24:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:44] Speaker A: And then she got killed by the spiders. [00:24:47] Speaker B: I like, how many different versions of that there is? There's the spider egg as a pimple. There's the eating Taco Bell that had a spider egg sack in it and the egg Zack, implants itself in your throat. Of course, I guess those are the only two I know. I guess there's swallowing the spider and then just like, the spiders coming out of your mouth. [00:25:09] Speaker A: There'S a whole bunch of spiders and mouth shit. They say you eat a bunch of spiders when you're sleeping. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fine. Spiders are fucking cool. Stop being so scared of them, everybody. Jeez. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Yeah. What's the deal? [00:25:21] Speaker B: I don't know. Although so shortly after Wanda and I bought our house and moved in, my parents came up to when you buy a house, your parents come by and they either do a housewarming with you or they help you get some stuff straight. And since our house was a short sale and it was empty for a couple of years, we had a lot of work to do. So my parents brought a whole bunch of tools up with them that they just didn't need. One of them was a shovel that my father had spray painted red, because he says everybody needs a little red shovel. Tangentially, everybody on my fucking block has one red shovel. I don't understand it. It's apparently a thing that you need a red shovel. But anyway, okay, so he spray painted the shovel red, and it was up here. And then one day I saw a black widow spider crawling out of it, and there was spray paint on its web. So my dad literally spray painted a black widow into this shovel and then brought it up to me from Oklahoma. [00:26:28] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:26:30] Speaker B: So I don't know if we normally had black widows before, but I guess now we probably do have black widows up here over on the west side of. [00:26:42] Speaker A: I mean, I guess that's why we're scared of spiders, because a lot of them are poisonous. So probably, like, ancestrally. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Yeah, but most of the super poisonous ones, like, you have to seek out in order for them to get to you. [00:26:55] Speaker A: Okay, you're right. [00:26:57] Speaker B: But they do have lots of legs. They are really hairy. They got lots of eyes. There's a lot of good reasons to be scared of spiders. [00:27:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:05] Speaker B: They're just creepy, but they're really cool. [00:27:08] Speaker A: Give me the heebie GB's talking about spiders. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what else gives me the heebie GB's, Johnny? This empty room that Rebirth is walking through. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but then he walks into, like, a cartoon where there's, like, a brick wall. [00:27:21] Speaker B: He's trying to get to the basement. Is that how you're going to the basement? [00:27:25] Speaker A: Spawn has, like, created a brick wall. [00:27:27] Speaker B: With cheap parlor tricks. You're better than that. He even calls it out in the text. Come on, Spawn, you're better than that. And Spawn reveals himself to indeed be better than that, because he just shadow. [00:27:43] Speaker A: Blasts in behind him, has a big gun. He's got shotgun. [00:27:48] Speaker B: He's got the shotgun with the shells that would kill spawn in it from above the fireplace, though this might be I don't know if it's been reloaded or not, because the last time we saw the shotgun, it was. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Time. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know if this is supposed to be a bluff or an actual he could shoot him. [00:28:13] Speaker A: I'm sure he had time to reload it. David. He's been there for, like, weeks. Remember? [00:28:17] Speaker B: He's been there for two weeks setting up intricate jigsaw puzzles. How much time do you have left for reloading the shotgun after that? [00:28:24] Speaker A: I don't know. That's true. Takes a while to create all those spike walls for that guy to crawl through. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Then he had to shadow blast the lady to a social worker and all that. He had a lot of cleaning up. [00:28:39] Speaker A: Exhausted. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:42] Speaker A: That's probably why he stayed in the cabin so long. He just took a nap. [00:28:45] Speaker B: He fell asleep on the couch and then woke up and was like, wait, how long was I down? [00:28:50] Speaker A: How many days has it been? [00:28:52] Speaker B: I've accidentally done that. I've taken the day off work to take a dog to the vet at three in the afternoon, and at, like, 11:00, been like, yeah, I could take a nap. And then I didn't wake up until five, and I was like, Wait, what the shit? [00:29:07] Speaker A: How did I oh, no, that happens. Yeah, that's happened to Spawn. He took a nap here and now this guy's coming after him. [00:29:16] Speaker B: Yeah, he must have just waken him up, because Al Simmons is being kind of smarmy here. [00:29:26] Speaker A: I don't even know what they're talking about. They're just, like, talking about everything and nothing at once. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Yeah, because Rebirth is like, I'm here because I want to survive. I want to outsmart our enemies. And Al's like, and just who are our enemies? And then Rebirth says I'm sensing sarcasm in your voice. Then Al Simmons turns into a seven year old and goes, you think? It's like, for half a second we're transported to an episode of Full House and then immediately back to the cabin. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Of the you think, cut it out. [00:30:15] Speaker B: And then Rebirth is just it's very hard to recall the thread of the conversation, but basically Rebirth is laying down like, the vampires. The vampires have a loose association with Heaven, though. Heaven really hates the fact that they're largely based from Hell, because there's that historical hellness to the vampires. Yes, they have loose associations with Hell, but Hell hates how vampires all started as mortal beings, so they're technically more of an Earth team than a Hell team. And that obviously vampires. And the spawns should all be pretty closely related because basically they're related due to the vampire technology inherent in the symbiote. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Symbiote, yes. [00:31:19] Speaker B: That's basically what Rebirth says. And Al's just like no, don't care. [00:31:25] Speaker A: I don't care. [00:31:26] Speaker B: And then apparently the vampireness allows Rebirth to just completely nullify the symbiote. So that's frightening that the vampires can control the symbiote, even though Al Simmons has got it. Woo. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that is a little and then we want that. [00:31:49] Speaker B: And then this is actually kind of a fucked up part. So while Al Simmons is incapacitated on the floor, and Rebirth starts to recount how the darkness, the ongoing darkness, has given all of his vampire friends and buddies and comrades the ability to just chow the fuck down on this small town. And that can't be very good for Al's psyche, because he literally magically absorbed all this energy and light to save one human's life. And here he is, accidentally, inadvertently leading to the entire destruction of a whole ass town. That's pretty fucked up. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think he would care. I don't think he cares because he cares more about the saving the person was a byproduct. He cared more about destroying that vampire and torturing him. He's selfish sometimes, a little bit. He would go, you think I care? Those people are collateral damage in a war. [00:32:49] Speaker B: He'd probably say, as he has a couple of times recently, I don't give a shit. [00:32:54] Speaker A: I don't give a shit. [00:32:58] Speaker B: And apparently, it wasn't just the townsfolk from this one town who got et by the vampires, the outside camera crews that kept trying to get a news story out of the weird, mystical darkness. They also met a terrible we got this cameraman just getting attacked from behind, and I like that his camera is tossed from his hands. It's real fun. [00:33:30] Speaker A: Just flying in the air. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Lying. [00:33:32] Speaker A: So then Rebirth uses his super vampire strength to pick up Spawn by the cape and throw him against the wall. [00:33:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:39] Speaker A: And then he does something really dickish and just picks up a sofa with his pinky be like, look at me. [00:33:45] Speaker B: I can pick up a sofa just to snap off one of the wood legs so he can use it as a steak. But then he starts trying to be like, I need you to give me the dead zones. The dead zones, give me the dead zones. Give to me. Give me the dead zones. Keeps trying to broker deals, and Al Simmons isn't the deal making type. Nope. Well, he's willing to make deals, but only deals that he proposes. He never accepts anybody else's deal. [00:34:15] Speaker A: Usually not. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Al gets the stake right to the heart for refusing to accept Rebirth's deal. We get a nice little cartoony arg. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Just screaming. Pulls back to the cabin and shows everyone surrounding it. [00:34:33] Speaker B: It's pretty fun. That's pretty fun. And then, well, we get some James Bond villain monologuing kind of where he spends more time explaining that he's going to kill Spawn than actually killing him. And he tosses the fireplace fireplace poker right into Spawn's chest. [00:34:56] Speaker A: So he's double skewered. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's know, if you're not going to join me, I have to kill you. And I think you'd agree that I have to kill. You right. And then Al Simmons does another show of force by being like, you think you got me down? I'm something different than I was. I might not be at my full strength, but I have power enough. He starts to shake the earth, Johnny. He's an earth mover. [00:35:26] Speaker A: He's moving. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Shaker. [00:35:29] Speaker A: And evidently this cabin was built on a graveyard. [00:35:33] Speaker B: Graveyard, yeah. Either that or it's going to say either that or it's. As you pointed out earlier, maybe the remains from the vampire's snack. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that's obviously what it is. I'm just trying to be a jerk. Build on a graveyard. [00:35:53] Speaker B: I didn't think of that, Johnny. I was just like, where the fuck do all these bodies come from? You're the one that put logic in this. I was just like, it's some spooky stuff. [00:36:03] Speaker A: He could bury them a little farther apart, though. Yeah, you'd think he'd bury them, spread it out a little bit. They're pretty densely concentrated. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe it's like the old on the north side where they've moved the cemeteries like three or four times. But they keep forgetting a lot of the so anytime they do construction on the north side of Chicago, they have to have somebody there, I think, from the health department or the county examiner's office. So that way if they hit a body, they can be logged and taken to whatever. The office that deals with missing bodies is. Very exciting. Yeah. I lost my momentum, Johnny. [00:37:00] Speaker A: I lost my train of thought. I was listening to that story that was really interesting. I was like, oh, I didn't know that. [00:37:04] Speaker B: Yeah, there's actually in Lincoln Park, the park there's plaques that say, oh, hey, yeah, this actually used to be a cemetery before it was a park. You're probably walking over tons and tons of bodies that nobody knows are there. It's fun. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Hope you don't get haunted. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Just don't build a chicken shack on top of it. [00:37:25] Speaker A: You don't want to do that. [00:37:27] Speaker B: Have we talked before about poultry? [00:37:29] Speaker A: You talk about poultry guys? [00:37:30] Speaker B: Poultry guys? [00:37:35] Speaker A: Yeah, you talked about poultry guys like three times. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Have you seen it yet? [00:37:41] Speaker A: No. [00:37:42] Speaker B: You got it's awful. But it's a trauma film, so it's enjoyably awful. [00:37:50] Speaker A: All right, I'll check it out. I like those kind of movies. So fucking that'd be hilarious. To spawn, raise an army of chickens to come pick these guys. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Could you imagine? He just travels through America's heartland raising the bodies of dead animals or the carcasses of animals, like slaughtered for meat. And that's just the army he uses to attack the world. [00:38:19] Speaker A: I mean, he does raise animals on that Bjorn Baron's cover. [00:38:22] Speaker B: He just walks through Grant Park where the slaughterhouses used to be, and just has, like an army of pigs, hog butcher to the world, Johnny. [00:38:34] Speaker A: No, he doesn't have pigs. He doesn't have chickens. He has zombies. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got zombies and they all. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Come surround all these guys. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:42] Speaker A: And rebirth is just like it's like, no. [00:38:47] Speaker B: What? [00:38:47] Speaker A: No, I didn't want this to happen. But he can't lose the confidence of his tribe, so he has to stay strong. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:56] Speaker A: And then we get some classic toddfather. Talking about a boss. [00:38:58] Speaker B: Yeah, talking about a boss. Our leader attack now. Yeah. Al just kicks the shit out of Rebirth is what starts happening here. He's hitting him with the chains. He's kicking him in the just it's just not holding back. Not holding. Then and then we get into the Thomas Natchick of it. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Drop the then Carlo Marbiri drops his pencil, and then Thomas Natchlick picks it up. [00:39:29] Speaker B: He goes, you're looking for this? [00:39:33] Speaker A: Well, I'm going to draw it now, motherfucker. I wonder why they do that. Do you think someone just ran out of time? [00:39:40] Speaker B: Sometimes it's because they ran out of time. Sometimes. I'm sure it might be a way to especially because Thomas snatchlick starts getting further into. So I guess I should preface this with I don't know for sure, but I bet it has something to do with kind of time obviously has an element in it, but it also might be just a way for them to recruit somebody and get them going on something. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Sure. [00:40:10] Speaker B: I don't know if you're required to I'm sure company to company, it's different, but there might be, like, a minimum number of pages that they need from somebody in order to contract them for more work. And it might just be a couple of pages here, a couple of pages there, a couple of pages somewhere else helps fulfill that part of the agreement. [00:40:33] Speaker A: Okay. [00:40:34] Speaker B: But I have a feeling it might also be that Tod McFarland's like, hey, if we put this guy here and then we'd be like, hey, remember how cool that fucking art was in that? That guy's going to be doing a whole fucking thing. [00:40:46] Speaker A: His art fits great for these zombies. They look great. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they look great. Thomas Natchlick's Spawn work is beautiful. Very excited for more of it. [00:40:58] Speaker A: Same and twitch, right? [00:41:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Is it Sam and Twitch? Or is it no home here? No, no home. Here is Jonathan Lampian. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah, correct. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:08] Speaker A: Come on, David. We covered it in the respawn, like, three respawn con year one, like three times. [00:41:15] Speaker B: We've covered it three times. And then also also excellent work from Thomas Natchlick here. Spawn has decapitated Rebirth and just like, tosses the head at the vampires. Oh, boy. [00:41:27] Speaker A: He's got like a yeah, just rips it right off. [00:41:31] Speaker B: Just right then. And then the zombies all descend on Rebirth's body. [00:41:36] Speaker A: They just rip it to shreds. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Spawn doesn't know how to use the mail system, and he's like, okay, I don't know how to get this head to your boss. Will you somebody take it with you? Also, this letter that I've prepared, I couldn't find a stamp, so could you take this message to him? Find your boss. [00:41:56] Speaker A: The message is he wants to meet him alone, face to face. Gotta meet that boss. [00:42:01] Speaker B: Speaking of message delivery, do you think the gunslinger doesn't quite understand USPS in this time he's found himself in since he came from Pony Express times? [00:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. [00:42:13] Speaker B: I don't understand the USPS privatized messenger couriers as they were. [00:42:19] Speaker A: I mean, he'd just be dumbfounded by all the stuff you can order on Amazon. Probably. [00:42:22] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. I'd like to see his take on the accuracy of the Cowboyness of Woody in the Toy Story films I got. [00:42:34] Speaker A: On Amazon because they bought a bunch of cat toys for Barbie. Yeah, I guess it thought I had other animals. It started recommending you hats for ducks. Like, the pictures were like ducks wearing these little top hats. You can buy them. I guess you also put them on cats, but in the pictures they use ducks. I was like, why the fuck is Amazon recommending these duck hats? [00:42:55] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, they want you to go to the park and start capturing ducks and putting hats on them. [00:43:01] Speaker A: I guess some weird shit on there. I also looked up because I was considering trying to get a costume together for Sponcon and going as Sam, but I didn't have the time. I was looking up plastic donuts. So it recommends me a lot of fake plastic donuts now in like a like I didn't buy it. So it's like, oh, he must really need this fake plastic. [00:43:24] Speaker B: You need to you need to find whoever makes those wax foods for the fronts of Chinese restaurants. [00:43:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:32] Speaker B: That's what you need. The ones that have the whole fish on them. Because that's some quality work. That's the kind of fake donut you want. [00:43:42] Speaker A: Looks so nice you could taste it. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Yeah, you know what doesn't look so nice? [00:43:46] Speaker A: You could taste it, johnny rebirth's body. [00:43:50] Speaker B: Rebirth's body. Post zombie zombie. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Uh, he looks like the guy in Day of the Daddish where he gets his guts. He's like choke on him. [00:44:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, man. It is brutal. It is brutal. And then Sean I've been pronouncing the name of this comic book for so long. For so long. Johnny. It's just sean. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It's not Spawn. [00:44:19] Speaker B: It's. Sean the PA just sounds like or the P just sounds like an H. [00:44:23] Speaker A: So sean yeah, like Sean the sheep. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Sean the sheep. Somebody should do some art of Sean the Sheep dressed up as Spawn. That would be so cute. [00:44:34] Speaker A: Have it say Sean. Yeah, that'd be pretty good. That'd be pretty awesome. Maybe. Probably for just you. [00:44:40] Speaker B: And and then and then they could dress Wallace up as the clown and he could be like the cheese kitty. The cheese. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Just eating cheese instead of hot dogs all the time. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:44:57] Speaker A: I love issue ends with surprisingly tender moment from Spawn. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Yes, it does. Spawn shadow blasts into the compound and just stumbles over to the wall and collapses. And it's just like he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Johnny yeah, I feel you, smannie. [00:45:24] Speaker B: Yeah. How long can he keep this pace up? Johnny that last panel is just a. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Whole entire mood just collapse there, sitting there looking sad. [00:45:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:33] Speaker A: And then his power level almost says almost circles. It's 1331. [00:45:44] Speaker B: How dare they? How dare they? Yeah. [00:45:46] Speaker A: They could have made it say Leet. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty good. Spawning Ground Presents the Breakdown We got questions and answers. There is so much in this first message. So many questions. So many questions, which is actually remarked upon in the response. Okay, there's a lot to unpack here, but basically they're like, looking forward to the Scorched, like what you're doing. They love salmon twitch. They love she spawn, all that good stuff. They love haunt. And yeah, as those of us who read Scorched and have been reading Scorched know she Spawns, sham and fucking Sammy Twitch haven't been in Scorched. Damn it. She spawn and Haunt at least are in Scorched. Sammy Twitch, they are way back. [00:46:35] Speaker A: Maybe they'll come in one day. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Man, it's real good. I do like how quick this next one is. I just wanted to say that Spawner is an amazing character. The response, I agree. Then we got the best cover in the world, kingspawn Number One by Puppeteer Lee. [00:46:57] Speaker A: One of the best. [00:46:58] Speaker B: Yeah, real good. Real good. We get some kudos on keeping the price point at 299 and also a little comment on the COVID upgrade, which is excellent. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Always nice. We love those fancy new covers. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they're good. They're good. [00:47:13] Speaker A: The cardstock is good. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Somebody asks if they'll bring Cyan back. [00:47:17] Speaker A: And, well, we know that a couple of years later that they yeah, eventually. [00:47:23] Speaker B: Then what seems like a perennial question, but always fun to ask. Somebody asks if all the books are done digitally now or there's still pencil and ink going on. And literally the answer is just it depends on who's drawing it. Yeah. And then we get a really good just like, pencils from Javi Fernandez from Kingspawn two one that I remember talking about distinctly because of the in the background of the sound of the machine gun going off. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's where they shoot at. [00:48:02] Speaker B: The yeah, that's those crazy kids would have been brainwashed into wanting to see the face of Billy Kincaid in their visors while they're doing the deed. [00:48:18] Speaker A: You got to see him. [00:48:21] Speaker B: So fucking creepy. Oh, God. Fucking goddamn Billy Kincaid is. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Just like. [00:48:31] Speaker B: He'S just like the fucking worst. But he's a great character, but he's just like. [00:48:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Boy, I bet that early King Swan. [00:48:42] Speaker B: I bet for certain writers, I bet they kind of want to get into the headspace of their characters so that way they can kind of feel that they're writing closer to the spirit of the character. I bet when they have to get in the headspace for Billy Kincaid, they're just not good for a week or so after they're just like they take like six showers a day and still feel dirty. They're just like. [00:49:11] Speaker A: We might get more of him in no home here. We'll see. Yeah, we're following one of his victims. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Boy, what a fucking creep. Image Classics ad after that ad for the Scorched number one coming out in December 2021. And that's spawn 323. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Johnny that's it. [00:49:28] Speaker B: That's it. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Good spooky issue for Spooky season of 2021. [00:49:34] Speaker B: As if we didn't have enough to think that was spooky at that time. [00:49:39] Speaker A: It's even more spooky. [00:49:40] Speaker B: Even more spooky. [00:50:03] Speaker A: Next up we have Gunslinger number 24. Like I said, the final and ultimate Bret Booth on this maybe not final, but on this run of Gunslinger, his unbroken 24 issue run. Yeah, this is it, baby. [00:50:23] Speaker B: This is the end of the marathon. He liked the original marathon participant dropped dead immediately after finishing the last line of this book. [00:50:35] Speaker A: Don't put that out there. [00:50:37] Speaker B: No, he didn't. [00:50:40] Speaker A: Maybe just took a nice he just took a nice nap. [00:50:42] Speaker B: That's what I think about marathons is why would you want to do something that canonically killed the demigod who first did it? [00:50:53] Speaker A: Because then he can prove you're better. No, he finished this issue of Gunslinger and went, I'm going to take a nap. And this is when took a nap? [00:51:00] Speaker B: Yeah, he took an Al Simmons nap and woke up four days later and was like, where am I? [00:51:08] Speaker A: No, he got woken up by the Todd father shaking him. He's like, guess what, you got to draw Spawn now. He's like, no, I thought I was out. He's like, no, you're going to draw a main title. [00:51:19] Speaker B: And it wasn't a phone call from the Todd father. He broke into Bret Booth's studio. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he was shaking, physically shaking him. [00:51:27] Speaker B: He's like, come on, come on. [00:51:31] Speaker A: You got to do the main title now, Brett. [00:51:34] Speaker B: There's no time for sleep. I don't sleep, but look at me. I can imagine that the Todd father doesn't sleep. Either that or like his dreams. He basically does work in his dreams and he's just like constantly moving around. If I were Wanda, I would be like, Todd, Todd, I love you, but you got to sleep on the couch. You can't be spawning in the bed. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Yeah, probably just constantly just talking and spewing out ideas. With sleep. [00:52:05] Speaker B: He just has like a tape recorder next to his on his pillow so that way he doesn't miss any of his good ideas. Oh, shit. Write that down. That's all the recording is it's? Just write that down. Write that down. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Well, we got to start with the covers here. We got two awesome covers. [00:52:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I've got cover a the Mike Diodato Jr. Cover. And it's real nice though. I feel like a dummy for it taking me so long to figure out what was going on. So on this Mike Diodato Jr. Cover, it's just got Hoppy tall hat, wielding his revolvers kind of aiming him just off center there. And I was like, if he's wearing gloves, why can you see his knuckles and his fingernails? Until I realized he's got gloves with the fingers cut off of him. I was like, what is going on here? He's wearing gloves. He's wearing fingerless gloves. That's what happened. [00:53:09] Speaker A: Oh, Javi wearing fingerless gloves. [00:53:13] Speaker B: I'm sure he doesn't have can you imagine Hellspawn having fingerprints? Like, what would it look like? Would it just be like instead of the loops and worlds we're used to, it's just like a small representation of their face. So like spawn leaves. Little spawn symbols. Javi leaves his now new little bandit face. She Spawn. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Maybe Mike Theodato Jr. Is just obsessed with fingernails because there's that weird king Spawn when he did Spawn's holding his hands up, and it has fingernails. [00:53:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe he's just showing off because I know fingers are a hard thing to get right. [00:53:50] Speaker A: Yeah. He's just showing off. Everyone says hands are the hardest thing to draw. He's just like, look at you. I can draw hands a lottie. Do. [00:53:58] Speaker B: He's like, no problem. He says it's a piece of cake. A piece of crumb cake. No problem. [00:54:04] Speaker A: Then we've got a B cover here. B covers by Kale New. I think that's how you pronounce it. Forgive me if I'm pronouncing it wrong. And it's Javi, like, bent down on the ground holding a gun at some guy who's also laying down, I imagine, who's holding his hand up in the foreground. [00:54:25] Speaker B: If this were on social media, it would say, POV, you're about to get unalived by Javi. Yeah. [00:54:31] Speaker A: POV, you're about to get shot, and he's about to shoot a guy. And he's got a really awesome collar in this, and his hat is ridiculously tall. [00:54:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it's real good. [00:54:41] Speaker A: It's a good hobby. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Good hobby. [00:54:44] Speaker A: Pop that sucker open. We got the credits here, and we got script plot by Todd McFarland, art by Bret Booth. Thank you for your as we know, could play a little bit of taps. It's the last Bret Booth inkers. El Delso Corona. Good inks colors by Ivan Nunes. Good colors lettering. You know him? I know him. Tom Wojciowski. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Good lettering. Except for one error that I'll point out when we get there. Wow. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Shots fired. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Shots fired. Take that, Tomo. [00:55:28] Speaker A: We already covered the did. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Sure did. [00:55:31] Speaker A: And we've got creative directors Tom McFarlane and Thomas Healy is editor in chief. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:55:38] Speaker A: Previously in Gunslinger gunslinger and Dakota barely make it out alive from their battle with clown. And Dakota gives Javi a gift as thanks. Yeah, I don't remember if we mentioned this issue is from September 2023. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So not too long ago. [00:55:56] Speaker A: Not too long ago at all. [00:55:57] Speaker B: Gunslingtober. [00:55:59] Speaker A: So, yeah, last issue was kind of the denouncement, the end of the fight. Is that how you say that word? [00:56:04] Speaker B: The de? No, ma. [00:56:05] Speaker A: Is that how you say it? [00:56:06] Speaker B: Well, since it's French, you can give it a little extra on the De. No, ma. If you don't have people speaking it at you and you were to just learn it from reading Denument would be what you'd knew exactly. I knew exactly what you meant, so it was fine. [00:56:26] Speaker A: Okay. That's all language is for getting across what you mean. No, but it was the end of the fight with clown. And she gave him the little dinosaur that she says got a special trick and that he and Taylor went on their merry way. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:39] Speaker A: And that was what happened last issue. [00:56:41] Speaker B: They're off to see the wizards, Johnny. [00:56:43] Speaker A: They're off to see the lizard. [00:56:45] Speaker B: The lizard. They're off to see the king lizard and the lizard wizard. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Deja. Deja. That's a Jimmy Buffett song. Off to see the lizard. Off to see the lizard. We're singing a lot on this episode. [00:56:56] Speaker B: Hey, Johnny, it's wanda literally told me to shut up while I was singing earlier, so I gotta put it somewhere. I tried singing some Jackie Wilson to her and she wasn't having it. [00:57:08] Speaker A: I was singing Taylor Swift. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Nice. [00:57:10] Speaker A: And my Wanda was also not having it. [00:57:14] Speaker B: I like how that just kind of like came together perfectly. We didn't plan on it, but yet. [00:57:19] Speaker A: But yet it happened. [00:57:20] Speaker B: It happened. Speaking of happening, what's happening here, Johnny? [00:57:24] Speaker A: Taylor's waking up in darkness. He's in the void. [00:57:28] Speaker B: He doesn't know why it comes or where it hides when it's not there. Either way, Taylor's never had control over it. This is fucking cool. This is fucking cool. Because we all know Taylor to be a doofus, but he's got a deep pain within him. [00:57:42] Speaker A: He's got some kind of serious shit going on here. [00:57:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And we go like we zoom in on Taylor and then we zoom in on his eye. And then we go inside of his pupil. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Inside his brain. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we see. So this issue has like four or five two page spreads in it, which is obviously like a hey, man, this is your last work on this issue or this series. Go for just just go big. Go big, then go home. Taylor as an angel at the end of the first the, he's just figured out the box puzzle and pinhead's. There like haha infinite pleasures. [00:58:20] Speaker A: He has a million chains sticking out of him. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Like they're exactly the hellraiser chains too. They got the hooks on them and everything. [00:58:27] Speaker A: No, I know. It's exactly what I thought. [00:58:29] Speaker B: It's great. It's great. And so we learned that he's half angel, half mortal, and that his dad's a fucking jerk and could have been like, hey, dude, this is going to happen to you. His dad didn't give him the talk. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Yeah. He didn't say, you're going to go through angel puberty. [00:58:47] Speaker B: Yeah. You're going to start sprouting feathers in places that you never had feathers before. And don't worry, it's natural. It happens to everyone who's happy that's. [00:59:01] Speaker A: Like, exactly what happens in X Men Three at the beginning when Angel's, like, kid, like, filing off his wings. [00:59:09] Speaker B: Remember that? [00:59:10] Speaker A: His dad walks in on him. He's a little kid. He's got wings. Love x Men three. [00:59:17] Speaker B: I vaguely I think I've all I. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Was just completing your sentence. You said you love X Men Three. It's your favorite movie of all time. [00:59:24] Speaker B: It's the best one. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:59:26] Speaker B: Because, Johnny, it was the newest one of that series. So obviously it has to be the best one. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Sure. Right at the time, yeah. I thought it was the worst one at the time. [00:59:36] Speaker B: My allegiance will always be to the first one because I've seen that one like 20 times. [00:59:39] Speaker A: I like the X two a lot. [00:59:41] Speaker B: I don't remember much about X Two. [00:59:43] Speaker A: I don't know how well they've aged. Who knows? [00:59:46] Speaker B: I mean, I can tell you now, I saw some clips not too long ago and that CGI did not age well. [00:59:55] Speaker A: All I know is that Brian Singer is a real cool dude. [00:59:57] Speaker B: I'm glad he's directed the best the best. Apparently. Disgusting. Disgusting. I could tell you probably that the argument for allowing people to live just because they're people and that's a good thing, probably is still more relevant than it needs to be. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Oh, an X Men. [01:00:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:20] Speaker A: No, I'm sure. Like, X Two, compared to movies these days are probably like a fucking Ingmar Bergman film. [01:00:30] Speaker B: Why is it so slow and moody? [01:00:33] Speaker A: Seriously. I mean, compared to, like a you know, these days, it's so much like the climaxes of the X Men movies were like, two people, like, punching each the scope. [01:00:43] Speaker B: The scope that they've had. Everything needs to have a certain level of scale. And it's real weird. Like, for on Godzilla Day, they were showing the 1998 Godzilla on Pluto TV. Nice. And it's weird how intimate it feels even though it's supposed to be a big monster attacking New York City. It's very weird. It's so small and cozy. Where now it would be big and vast distances. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's like a cast of many characters. I don't know. [01:01:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:18] Speaker A: 90S movies, man. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Some of them good. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Pretty good. I like that Godzilla movie. All right. I know you like it. [01:01:27] Speaker B: I've seen it so many times. Oh, boy. It was fun just being like, oh, hey, that's where that thing that I always say comes right from Godzilla. Yeah, I love that. The main love story in it is a lady who knew a guy in college and she sees him on TV and is like, oh, hey, look, he's on TV. Maybe I should try to hook up with him. What? That doesn't happen. That doesn't happen, John. [01:01:57] Speaker A: It might. [01:01:58] Speaker B: Nobody watches TV anymore. [01:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Live at least. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Well, just Pluto TV. Live. I also discovered that on Hulu, if you search for cinemax, you don't have to pay for it. But they have a whole bunch of cinemax live channels that just constantly show movies. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [01:02:15] Speaker A: I love the live channel. [01:02:16] Speaker B: What they got on the cinemax channels? [01:02:19] Speaker A: Let's see. I was watching I have Blair Witch Three was on the other day. I watched the end of that. [01:02:24] Speaker B: I didn't even know there was a Blair Witch Three. [01:02:26] Speaker A: The Reboot. The Reboot. [01:02:27] Speaker B: Okay. [01:02:29] Speaker A: I called Blair Witch. Just Blair Witch. [01:02:31] Speaker B: Okay. [01:02:32] Speaker A: Which is Blair Witch Three. Yeah, it's a good movie. It is a good movie. Gone girls on. So I watched like, 45 minutes of that. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Nice. [01:02:43] Speaker A: We watched Some Final Destination. [01:02:45] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [01:02:47] Speaker A: A good one. That movie is hilarious. [01:02:50] Speaker B: The first one. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Yes, it was the first one, man. [01:02:53] Speaker B: I love every once in a while on the Internet, there's a picture of a heavily loaded down truck with stuff not correctly tied down, and it's like, now I know this fool never watched Final Destination, and it shows. Speaking of Taylor, Tara Taylor wakes up in a cold sweat. You ever wake up in a cold sweat? No. You never talk about it. You never talk about you never talk about it. [01:03:30] Speaker A: He screams, no more pain. [01:03:32] Speaker B: And yeah, hobby's like, hey, man. Hey, stop. Hey, it's okay. Just relax. And then Taylor's like, chill out, buddy. He's like, Wait, where are the little dinosaurs? Just like, they need to get it like a little emotional support dinosaur vest. Because that's what's happening here. [01:03:54] Speaker A: He does need that. [01:03:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Taylor notices that Javi is javi apparently got the haunt treatment at one point. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I got a lot of scars. [01:04:03] Speaker B: Yeah, scars on maybe that's maybe how he got these scars is why he made it. So that way he had to magically lock his knives inside his hat because he didn't do that initially. And somebody took his hat from him and stabbed him all up. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Yes. That's why they're fused to his hat. That'll be in deadly tales of the gunslinger. [01:04:30] Speaker B: For sure. It'll be great. Mind your own business, boy. Don't need your pity. That's great. And the Taylor's. Like, where are we? And Javi was like, you said you needed to stop. We just stopped, and was like, well, we didn't go to a hotel or anything. And he's like, you just said you wanted to stop, and he was like, okay, awesome. Great. Thanks. [01:04:52] Speaker A: Great. Just sleeping on a tree. And he's AW. The dinosaur is being nice to him. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. It's giving him kisses. Look at that. Look at that. Now, for anybody who's ever had a ever had a dog, you know for a fact that that dinosaur would be trying to stick its tongue right up his nose. It would just be like, oh, yeah. I don't know why dogs want to lick your mouth and your nose so much, but they do all the time. [01:05:21] Speaker A: It's real weird because they love you. [01:05:24] Speaker B: Yeah. They want to steal your breath. Yeah. [01:05:30] Speaker A: Like a cat used to do. [01:05:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Javi's like, hey, while you were out, I taught this little dinosaur thing or two. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Watch this. [01:05:40] Speaker B: He was like, watch this. She fits perfectly in my pocket. It's like he's a salesman. Being like and it just goes right in here. No bulge. It doesn't show on the outside. [01:05:51] Speaker A: Just perfectly in the pocket. [01:05:53] Speaker B: And he's like, I just pull her out then watch the shark on my enemy's faces. And he transforms. And the dinosaur just like starts vibrating and glowing and turns into a noble steed. That's quite a noble steed. [01:06:07] Speaker A: Noble steed with a big sword dildo on its head. [01:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a hellish force of nature, Joni. Yeah. Look at this thing. It's amazing. And it's got no lips, so all of its teeth are bared and its legs are on fire. [01:06:22] Speaker A: It's saddle horns like a big skull. Yeah. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Javi better hope he doesn't ever lean too far forward or else he's going to get a couple more on his stomach. [01:06:32] Speaker A: It's like a spiky skull is the saddle horn. [01:06:35] Speaker B: He doesn't have any stirrups though. [01:06:37] Speaker A: He doesn't need stirrups. [01:06:40] Speaker B: His legs is going to get tired. Yeah. [01:06:43] Speaker A: Holding on to it like that. Yeah. [01:06:46] Speaker B: Oh, man. Yeah. Part of this fun two page spread. Another two page spread for Mr. Brett Booth. Yep. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Get to show off the horse. [01:06:53] Speaker B: I'm wondering if they're going to do another GameStop exclusive gunslinger with Horse and have it be this one. They should do that every time they want to do a new gunslinger. They also do a new gunslinger with a new horse. That would be dope. [01:07:11] Speaker A: This reminds me of a McFarlane figure I had back in the day. I had the Headless Horseman from Sleepy Hollow. It was a great fucking figure. [01:07:18] Speaker B: Nice. [01:07:19] Speaker A: It was a horse and the horseman could sit on the horse. It was great, man. Wish I still had that. [01:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that would be great, man. Todd McFarland Toys makes some pretty decent toys, johnny yeah. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Especially at that time, around 99, 2000. [01:07:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. So we got that reveal of the new horse and then he just like he rides away and Taylor's like, wait, where are you going? Like, it started off as a look at this cool thing I learned, taylor and then he's like, okay, bye bye, bye. [01:08:01] Speaker A: Yeah, bye bye. See you. [01:08:03] Speaker B: He's like, well, I'm already on the horse. Might as well. And then he rides 2 hours to go see fuck what's his name? [01:08:12] Speaker A: WEA. [01:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Waya. And Javi's just like, that boy ain't right. And then it flashes back to Taylor going, that's my purse. I don't know you. [01:08:32] Speaker A: Weya says he's got some poison in him from his bloodline. [01:08:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Javi's. Like I know. That's why I'm here. I'm telling you about it so you could deal with it. I got other shit to do. [01:08:42] Speaker A: You're the great shaman, the medicine man. [01:08:45] Speaker B: He's like, no. He's like, fuck. Fuck that. I taught you to be better than that. And Javi's like I'm. Not better than sickness. And there's a sickness in Javi, too, which we know because he absorbed those angel wings that he put on himself. [01:09:00] Speaker A: Yes, he's got a little bit of heaven in there. [01:09:02] Speaker B: You got some heaven in my hell guy. He got some hell guy. Javi. And we are having a little bitty a little spat, which I assume would probably be just a normal conversation between Javi and anyone trying to learn him anything. Javi seems like a terrible student. [01:09:25] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:09:26] Speaker B: He just wants to argue the whole yeah, argue. Just shut up and open your ears a little bit, Javi. Jesus. Then we flash to a bar somewhere else. Got a very elegant lady talking to one of her friends who she set up on a blind date, and oh, boy. Oh, boy. It's terrible. [01:09:48] Speaker A: The guy showed up. He was wearing platinum stripes. [01:09:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And it just gets worse from there. Just gets worse from there. He invited his buddies to come along on his date, and it's like, what the fuck? What the fuck? [01:10:04] Speaker A: What the fuck's wrong with this guy? [01:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah, what a jerk. She goes to freshen herself up a little bit after after her meal, and she comes back to her table, and there's a hooded man sitting there. [01:10:16] Speaker A: A hoodie. [01:10:17] Speaker B: A hoodie man. His name is Thomas, and he's a no, no, her boyfriend's name is Thomas. This guy's a jerk face. He's telling her that she's got to get her boyfriend to do some stuff for them or else something bad's probably gonna happen to her. You know, we learned that she has a child and has no money. So Mr. Hoodie man pushes over a thing and he says, go on. Pawn stars, they'll give you nowhere near what it's worth. [01:10:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like a necklace, like a silver necklace thing. [01:10:53] Speaker B: It's like an angel. I am assuming it's probably supposed to be St. Michael. [01:10:58] Speaker A: Okay. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Like a St. Michael pendant for protection. Or St. Christopher. St. Michael. St. Michael. St. Christopher. [01:11:06] Speaker A: Like I always say, you're the biblical scholar. [01:11:08] Speaker B: Yeah, because St. Michael's the one who fought the dragon, right? St. George. St. George. St. Michael fighting the St. George, but that's where Michael became the protector. So, yeah, if it is a st pendant, it's St. Michael. Because St. Michael is for protection. [01:11:26] Speaker A: Okay, well, might be St. Michael a. [01:11:30] Speaker B: Long way to say that I was right the first time, and I shouldn't have gone any further trying to add details that I didn't know about. And he's like, we need your boyfriend to be in by Friday. And then this guy leaves the restaurant, and he comes out to his car. The tires are slashed, and our boy Javi's just standing there with a knife. [01:11:51] Speaker A: I wonder who crazed. Yeah, he looks awesome. [01:11:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And this hoodie dude's just know. He's like, I'm an important man. You're a dead man. I'm an important man. And Javi's just like, oh, word. [01:12:06] Speaker A: Then we get the throw you into the car. [01:12:09] Speaker B: Then we get the opening reading. And the quickness that Javi takes to this guy is he immediately cuts off two of this guy's fingers. And then is like he's like, hey, you guys never give me the answers that I want the first couple of questions I ask. So I figured you're just going to lie to me twice. So I cut off two of your fingers if you don't want to lose anymore. [01:12:30] Speaker A: Might as well talk. [01:12:32] Speaker B: Might as well talk. And this guy's scared know? Javi's no nonsense. Javi asks him if he came through the time rip with Casey Winston. This guy did. And then he asks several more questions that we don't see the last of which, uh, I'm told you've got something that belongs to me. I want it back. And what's this thing that belongs to him? Who knows? [01:12:57] Speaker A: I don't know. What could it be? [01:13:00] Speaker B: What could it be? And then we flashed back to did we get her name? I don't know Sharon. We flash back to apartment. She's back home with her boyfriend Thomas. And he's just, hey, hey, babe, I'm gone. I'm out of here. And she's like, what? No. What? And he's like, nah, man, nah. Nah, man. Nah, man. I thought I was gonna be good, a good father, unlike my father. But turns out I'm a piece of shit like him too. So I'm out of here. And this actually brings up the Tomo issue that I had. And it's the panel right before the bottom one where it says that Sharon is saying and what pisses me off most is your baby needs stability in his life. Stability I was going to give you, unlike his deadbeat dad. Sharon doesn't say that. That's obviously Thomas. Oh, yeah. Because Sharon responds in the next one. You can still do that, thomas, please. [01:13:55] Speaker A: Okay, that makes sense because I got kind of confused by this part. [01:13:58] Speaker B: And I was they just they just put the little arrow in the wrong area. It should have been facing up. But it's it's forgivable it's fine. Yeah, but so this dude just leaves like a jerk because he's a and that's how he leaves. [01:14:18] Speaker A: Then the baby starts crying. [01:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Sharon is like tossed into just turmoil. Her baby starts crying. So she's like, we're going to go take care of this little dude. And then Javi's there and he says. [01:14:31] Speaker A: He'S turn on the lights and there's a gunslinger in your baby's room. That'd be fucking terrifying. [01:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And he says, leave the lights off. Are you turning those lights off? I don't know. [01:14:39] Speaker A: I'd turn them off and leave. [01:14:41] Speaker B: I do like that the little fascinator over the bed is just all little dinosaurs. [01:14:47] Speaker A: Yes. You get a lot of little dinosaur references. [01:14:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Also also fun to think how long has this been? Since Taylor woke up. So gunslinger literally just left him in the middle of the woods to go do a whole bunch of yeah. [01:15:02] Speaker A: Yeah, he did. He was like, I'm gonna go. [01:15:05] Speaker B: Goodbye. I'm told he needs a doctor, the baby. She says, yes. He also needs a mother that's alive. And Javi's like, yeah, okay, that's got give me that necklace. [01:15:19] Speaker A: Go give me that necklace you got earlier. [01:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So she comes back with the necklace. He checks the back to confirm it's authentic. It says Amy. My sweet is Amy's. This was the item in question that Javi asked about as the last question for the dude. And then Javi says, they tested him with their drugs, didn't they? Referring to the baby? And then we get to see why he asks that question. [01:15:44] Speaker A: And baby's real messed up. [01:15:47] Speaker B: Real messed up. It's kind of like baby two face baby is what it is. Because it looks yeah, basically, baby has been burned. And isn't the cutest little dinosaur onesie. [01:15:59] Speaker A: That is a really cute onesie. [01:16:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's surrounded by just stacks of Benjamins. So Javi once again being like, I don't understand money here. Just have some money. [01:16:09] Speaker A: So he helps have some money here's, like, $10,000. [01:16:12] Speaker B: And then she begins to cry along with the baby. [01:16:15] Speaker A: That's how Brett Booth ends his run is a deformed baby. [01:16:18] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty wild. [01:16:21] Speaker A: Pretty wild. I was like, okay. But I turned to the page as. [01:16:25] Speaker B: Soon as it happened. I was like, Johnny. Johnny. Holy crap. The way this issue ends yeah. It ends with a bang. [01:16:33] Speaker A: Ends with a bang. Top father was on something. He was on his wavelength. [01:16:36] Speaker B: He was on a tear. [01:16:37] Speaker A: He was on a tear. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Then we get some Spawning Grounds presents the SDCC 2023 roundup. Some more pictures of the todd father with people. The picture of the todd father with a baby, which I don't know if. [01:16:52] Speaker A: It'S the best image for this issue. [01:16:56] Speaker B: I don't know. He's sure having a good time with it. [01:16:59] Speaker A: He's with a laker baby, I bet. [01:17:02] Speaker B: The Todd father seems like one of those people who always takes time out of his if he's ever anywhere and he runs into a baby, he always takes time out to interact with the so. So I bet if you're ever at any sort of convention or anything and you've got a baby with you, he's like, get that baby the fuck up here. I want to talk to this baby. I could see it. [01:17:24] Speaker A: I could see it. [01:17:25] Speaker B: I could see it. [01:17:26] Speaker A: And you got Jonathan Glapian doing some sketching. And then Tod McFarland Davis des Malchin hanging out. [01:17:33] Speaker B: And Janesha Adams Ginyard, who I'm going is one of the oh, I forget how to pronounce. Is she? Because she's got a picture of I'm assuming that's herself from the Black Panther. She's one of the guardians of the Black Panther. [01:17:53] Speaker A: Oh, of course. I didn't even realize that's what the picture was. Okay. [01:17:57] Speaker B: Yeah, she's an actor. Yeah, got it. Shit, I forget how they're pronounced. I don't remember Dolora Mazingale, real estate agent? The Dora milaje. There we go. I was putting the L in the wrong word. Dora Milaje. [01:18:14] Speaker A: Dora Milaje. Got it. One of those. [01:18:19] Speaker B: Are the warrior women from. [01:18:24] Speaker A: I didn't originally see what the picture was. [01:18:27] Speaker B: Me, either. I didn't recognize it until right before I said something. And then butchered the. [01:18:35] Speaker A: David Dasmalchen's there because he's doing that samurai versus Knights nice. For Tod. McFarland Productions. [01:18:43] Speaker B: He's got that Dope Tiger shirt. [01:18:45] Speaker A: Still dope tiger shirt. [01:18:49] Speaker B: Do you need more Spawns Universe, Johnny? [01:18:52] Speaker A: Always. [01:18:53] Speaker B: All right, well, then don't miss these ongoing titles. All of them. Ongoing. [01:18:58] Speaker A: Got a whole bunch of previews for the October issues. [01:19:02] Speaker B: Sure do. That good. Segur cover. Yeah. [01:19:07] Speaker A: You were complaining there weren't enough monkey covers. There's plenty. [01:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's not that there aren't enough monkey covers. It's that there's no monkey covers on issues that monkey appear. [01:19:18] Speaker A: Yes. It never happens. [01:19:22] Speaker B: It's usually on a mostly monkeyless issue. The Image Classics ad that we've been having for a while. And McFarland Toys. That's Gunslinger 24. Johnny. [01:19:32] Speaker A: 24 leaves you wanting more. [01:19:33] Speaker B: Yes, it does. Yes, it does. And, well, that brings us to the part of the show, Johnny, where we finish the issues and then got some puppies to rate. So it's time to rate the puppies. [01:19:49] Speaker A: It's time to rate them. [01:19:55] Speaker B: You pay emotions. [01:20:00] Speaker A: So, first up, we had Spawn 323. Kind of like a little side story where this guy shows up and fucks a Spawn and he raises some zombies, kills them. I don't know. It's not terrible. It's just not my favorite issue of Spawn. It's a little muddled. Like, just the back and forth dialogue with him. This guy this guy Rebirth shows up and is immediately dead by the end of the issue. Yeah, his name might imply that maybe he'll be reborn, but he's kind of. [01:20:38] Speaker B: Like every character in Aliens versus Predator, the sequel that they're just introduced to be killed. [01:20:45] Speaker A: Right. You talk about alien versus Predator requiem? [01:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Whatever the second one was, I thought they were clever and tried to do Alien versus Predator for the first one, and then Aliens versus Predator for the. [01:20:57] Speaker A: Second one because no AVPR because it was rated R Requiem. But I don't know, it wasn't my favorite issue. Just kind of a little muddled. It's just got some, like, muddled. But john I don't know. [01:21:14] Speaker B: The first one is Alien versus Predator, and the second one is Aliens versus Predator Requiem. [01:21:21] Speaker A: Okay, well, there you go. [01:21:22] Speaker B: They did keep with the okay. Sorry. Good to know that was important enough to derail you from your rating of these puppies. [01:21:35] Speaker A: I mean, the art's cool. I don't know. I'm going to give it 2.5. I'm going to give it 2.5 Zombie Chickens. 2.5 Zombie Chickens. [01:21:47] Speaker B: Nice. Well, Johnny, I agree with you. The art in this issue is absolutely excellent. The story really doesn't go anywhere. [01:21:57] Speaker A: Right. [01:21:58] Speaker B: But let's just say it's not like issue seven bad. The first fight with overt kill. [01:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:08] Speaker B: So it's not terrible. I'm going to say my rating for this is right on the COVID I'm giving it three zombie puppies. Three puppies. Wolf puppies. [01:22:17] Speaker A: Nice. [01:22:18] Speaker B: Right in the middle. [01:22:18] Speaker A: Kind of zombie puppies. My favorite part of the issue is definitely the Bjorn Barron's trickortreat cover. [01:22:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I wouldn't say it's because I mean, back when you had 24 episodes, a season of television shows, that all had like twelve seasons, right? You had a lot of just like unnecessary or kind of like filler episodes. [01:22:39] Speaker A: And I want to feel so far. [01:22:41] Speaker B: To declare this as a filler issue, right. Because it is actually laying groundwork. It's just stuff that they got to get out there to make future stories make sense. So it's like you're climbing stairs and you get to the break between floors and you guys got to take a breather. This is like a breather issue. Yeah. [01:23:11] Speaker A: There you go. [01:23:12] Speaker B: Three zombie wolf puppies. [01:23:14] Speaker A: Our second issue was Gunslinger 24. Brett Booth's blast for the moment, kind of just Gunslinger establishing his new horse, setting up some stuff with Taylor. [01:23:25] Speaker B: The most important establishing is the new horse. [01:23:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, kind of you get the horse, you get Taylor, you get Gunslinger's back on the trail of the people who have wronged him and you get a really kind of crazy gotcha ending there. [01:23:41] Speaker B: Yeah, for real. [01:23:42] Speaker A: But I'm going to give it four dinosaur onesies. [01:23:48] Speaker B: That's a good I'm going to give this Johnny. I'm going to give this five pocket dinosaurs. [01:23:54] Speaker A: Wow. [01:23:55] Speaker B: Because, well, I'm always a little biased when it comes to Gunslinger books, so I always want to rate them higher because I just fucking love it. But Bret Booth was a blast on this book. I need to send him off with a fitting rating. Mean, literally, the art in this book is spectacular. It's just fun to look at. Story is pretty good. It's also kind of a breather issue, but it's much more to the point and kind of focused. It reads much better than 323. So I wouldn't say it's perfect, but I'm giving it the perfect score because it was a good ride. [01:24:40] Speaker A: Yeah. There you go. Thank you, Brett Booth. [01:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you very much, sir. [01:24:45] Speaker A: While we're thanking Bret Booth yeah, maybe you can thank him on Instagram. [01:24:49] Speaker B: Yeah, you could do that. Is he on Instagram? We should look that up real quick. [01:24:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Bret Booth comic art, I think is what his tag is. [01:24:55] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah, we should definitely thank him. We should all send him emails being like or DMs being like, thank you. Thank you for thank you drawing the Gunslinger. [01:25:05] Speaker A: We appreciate it. [01:25:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:08] Speaker A: We'll see you in spawn. [01:25:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it'll be real good. Real good. [01:25:14] Speaker A: But while you're on Instagram, we always like to give a shout out to someone every week. And David, I believe you had someone special in mind. [01:25:22] Speaker B: Yes, I do. I wanted to shout out one digital Kronos. That's all. One word digital kronos. Kronos spelled cronos. And they got a lot of really cool custom painted McFarland figures. Spawn and beyond. He's got like a whole platoon of doom guys that he's painted to be different. It's real cool. It's real cool. He also posts non spawn things that are very much things that Johnny and I both love, particularly pictures of dogs and Star Wars stuff. [01:26:04] Speaker A: What else do you need? [01:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah, what else is there, Johnny? There's nothing else in the world. [01:26:08] Speaker A: Dogs spawn star wars stuff. [01:26:10] Speaker B: He also has some pretty dope. Not really. I never got bit by the Gundam bug, but I can they're cool that people like them. [01:26:21] Speaker A: Yeah, they're awesome. Yeah, I love a Gundam. They're just so flexible and they have really cool accessories. I thought so. [01:26:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Digital kronos. Give them a follow. It's real cool. [01:26:32] Speaker A: While you're over there, be sure to give us a follow. We are regarding Spawn Pod on Instagram. [01:26:37] Speaker B: Yes, we are. [01:26:37] Speaker A: We're posting pictures from the episodes that were relevant, pickups, things like that. So make sure to get us a follow while you're there. Also, we've got Brian Voyals does our music. That's Brian underscore voyals underscore 27. [01:26:52] Speaker B: Hell. Yeah, it is. [01:26:53] Speaker A: Give him a follow as well. And also make sure to like, rate review, subscribe anywhere you can get podcasts. We really do are counting on word of mouth and grassroots campaign to get the word of spawn out. [01:27:09] Speaker B: Mean it's a it's spreading like hellfire. If hellfire spreads real, you know, that's fine. It's still getting there. It's still getting there, Johnny. [01:27:19] Speaker A: It's spreading. David, don't be so negative. [01:27:22] Speaker B: I said it's spreading like hellfire. It's just it's on Earth, and hellfire is naturally not going to be as robust in not its natural environment. But it's still getting out. I'm trying to be I'm trying to be positive, but as mentioned last week, I'm still feeling pretty good, so I got to self deprecate a little bit or else I feel right. [01:27:49] Speaker A: So what are we going to read for next week, David? [01:27:51] Speaker B: What are we going to read for next week? We are going to read a couple of issues from sponsor Universe. Can you believe it? [01:27:58] Speaker A: I can't. [01:28:00] Speaker B: So we're going to have a classic book and a not so classic book. Classic book is going to be spawn 324. Finishing up that loop. Our not so classic book is going to be king Spawn 26. The second of the todd father pinned king spawn issues and who budy. [01:28:19] Speaker A: It's a lot. [01:28:21] Speaker B: I might accidentally be conflating it with King Spawn 27. Never mind. [01:28:25] Speaker A: You are. But there's a lot in this one. [01:28:29] Speaker B: This todfather arc on King spawn has got a lot of stuff in it. [01:28:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it gets real serious in 27. [01:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah. It's good, though. It's good, though. We're here for it. [01:28:40] Speaker A: We're here for it always. [01:28:42] Speaker B: Yeah. So speaking of being here for it, we are also here for you in the form of electronic mail. [01:28:51] Speaker A: Email. Drop us a line. [01:28:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So if you ever want to talk to us, send us an email regarding [email protected]. We've got this thing right now where well, this thing right now, being Johnny, has promised to read any email you send us in. If you send us an email, Johnny reads it online. You get a sticker. We'll send you a sticker in the mail because we got stickers. [01:29:13] Speaker A: That dog sounds like he's real excited about the sticker. [01:29:17] Speaker B: The snoring pug in my lap. [01:29:20] Speaker A: Is that what it is? A snoring pug? [01:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah, she's asleep. It's the only way to keep her from fucking howling. Sorry about all the grumbly rumbly rumbly there, guys, but it's either this or. [01:29:36] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll choose the grumbly rumblies. [01:29:42] Speaker B: I wish there were a way to not have either of them, but yet keep the pug here, but there's not. So yeah, we make do. [01:29:50] Speaker A: We make do. [01:29:51] Speaker B: We make do. [01:29:52] Speaker A: So, yeah, hit us up on email and we'll send you sticker. [01:29:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:56] Speaker A: I always like to ask a prompt to get those juices flowing. [01:30:00] Speaker B: Yeah, you do. [01:30:00] Speaker A: And today I wanted to ask, inspired by my favorite aspect of 323, the trick or treat cover. I know it's a little bit past Halloween, but did you guys have any good Halloween costumes this year? Do you see any good ones? Do you see any Spawn costumes? Just let us know if you have some Halloween costumes you saw this year that you like. [01:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw a grand total of zero Halloween costumes. [01:30:25] Speaker A: I really didn't see that many either. I was at Spawn con and then I came back and I had to work. [01:30:30] Speaker B: It also snowed on Halloween in Chicago, so that kind of put a damage, though. The one thing I did see, because it was right in front of my face, one of my coworkers had their daughter at work and they were going to take them to a mall near work to go trick or treating. Inside there this child dressed up as Cardinal Copia from Ghosts, and it was absolutely dope. They put on like the little fake mustache and everything. I loved it. [01:30:59] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:31:00] Speaker B: So good. [01:31:01] Speaker A: Gotta love ghost. Gotta love copia. That little rat man. [01:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:10] Speaker A: I didn't really see that many this year, but hopefully somebody did and they. [01:31:13] Speaker B: Can tell us about yeah, yeah, please do. [01:31:15] Speaker A: I can live vicariously through that's. [01:31:18] Speaker B: The best that's the best way to live, Johnny. You ain't got to do nothing. You get all the excitement with none of the boring walking between. [01:31:26] Speaker A: Right, exactly. [01:31:28] Speaker B: That is the modern world. Well, Johnny, I got some grumbles to deal with. I got some grumbles on my own to make because I'm going to go have a nap that I forget who I am for a couple of hours and then wake up still not knowing who I am. [01:31:43] Speaker A: Or you might fall asleep, wake up seven days later surrounded by vampires in a cabin in the woods. [01:31:48] Speaker B: That might happen, too. I'll report back. So I think that leaves me just to say, johnny, may the scorched be with you. [01:31:57] Speaker A: And also with. [01:32:04] Speaker B: Johnny. Johnny, I'm going to go to sleep under the watchful gaze of White Terry Fitzgerald, and I hope that he does not invade Be. This is this is my new dream catcher. It's going to be Terry Fitzgerald. Scares away all the nightmares. [01:32:23] Speaker A: White Terry Fitzgerald. Now, that's the nightmare. [01:32:27] Speaker B: Don't you say that about me, Johnny. Maybe maybe for good dreams, I should put Jessica Priest on top of my go. I'm going to go tape this Jessica. [01:32:36] Speaker A: Some kind of dream. I'm not going to say which. [01:32:38] Speaker B: I'm going to go tape this Jessica Priest card to the ceiling above my bed so it can be the last thing I see at night. The first thing I see in the. [01:32:48] Speaker A: All right, well, I'll see you in court. Divorce court. [01:32:50] Speaker B: So please, please attend my funeral when Wanda kills me. Johnny, I bequeathed to you all my spawn stuff. [01:32:58] Speaker A: Yes. That's all I wanted. [01:33:03] Speaker B: Goodbye forever. [01:33:05] Speaker A: Good night, David. [01:33:07] Speaker B: SA. No puggy, no cry. No puggy, no cry.