Episode 79 - Spawn 12 and King Spawn 28

[00:00:00] Speaker A: If you are aggravated the comic books you buy, that's your own damn fault. And as for us being pompous, at least we have the guts to sing our names through our creations and opinions. [00:00:08] Speaker B: Tod McFarland, July 1993. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Good evening and welcome to the Malbols. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:54] Speaker C: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, I was just trying to work up the nerve to just have my first on mic noise today be a big old burp. And then I chickened out. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Well, I mean, that would be fitting with this issue for part of it. [00:01:13] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:01:15] Speaker C: A wild time is about to occur, Johnny. [00:01:18] Speaker A: This is a wild issue. [00:01:19] Speaker B: There's like eight fairly big segments of things that happen. [00:01:24] Speaker A: Not like eight, but like six. It's a wild ride. [00:01:27] Speaker C: It's exactly how I described that time that I discovered soap operas, where it's. [00:01:31] Speaker B: A little slice of everybody. [00:01:33] Speaker C: So you get like a page or two of everybody in the. [00:01:39] Speaker A: I mean, I guess since we're talking. [00:01:40] Speaker C: About it, just jump right into it. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Welcome to regarding Spawn. [00:01:45] Speaker B: This week, we're talking about two issues. [00:01:47] Speaker A: From Spawn's universe, as we want to do, except when we don't. But this time we are. So you get two for the price of one. [00:01:55] Speaker B: One of them is a big hefty. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Tome because this is very exciting. We're back to the classic. Yeah, back to the little over a year ago. We jumped around a bit. We did. [00:02:08] Speaker C: Yeah, we went back to the most recent, jumping on point to get everybody caught up for the issue 300 and 301 record breaking run. [00:02:20] Speaker A: We also caught up with all those other three main new titles. We started like, kind of halfway through them. So, yeah, now we're back to the classic Spawn. So welcome. If this is your first episode, you're jumping in because you excited. We're talking about a classic. [00:02:33] Speaker B: This has an iconic cover as well. [00:02:36] Speaker C: It absolutely does. So iconic that you'll notice it is actually in our logo. [00:02:42] Speaker B: Oh, it is. [00:02:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. You used it. [00:02:44] Speaker B: So our logo is not canon anymore. Long way of saying we're at Spawn. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Issue twelve. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Yes, we are titled Flashback part one. [00:02:55] Speaker A: This is back when they had titles. Remember that weird time when we'd see the behind the scenes title on the image website? [00:03:01] Speaker C: That was in the comic book. What are you talking about? [00:03:07] Speaker A: What is. That's so great. We forgot to ask Thomas again. [00:03:10] Speaker C: Yeah, we did. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Damn it. Next time, Chang gang, I'm going to. [00:03:13] Speaker C: Laugh if it comes out that it's just one of Mike Mitchell's. It's just Mike Mitchell's friends from changing. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Or he has, like, no idea because it was before his time. It's just like something. [00:03:22] Speaker B: The. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Changing. [00:03:26] Speaker C: It was probably one of those. It was probably like he just sat down right before lunch one day, and he's like, hold on a second. We got to name this miniseries changing. Okay, sandwich time. [00:03:34] Speaker A: It was like, let's do a couple more drafts. [00:03:38] Speaker C: But he wrote it on a napkin, and then he got, like, his italian beef dripped all over it, and it smeared it, and he was like, no title. [00:03:47] Speaker A: No title. Yeah, the first issue up, spawn number twelve, all the way back from July 1993. [00:03:53] Speaker C: Second issue, back when I was just a five years old boy. [00:03:56] Speaker B: It's five years. [00:03:58] Speaker A: I was seven. [00:04:00] Speaker B: Nice. [00:04:01] Speaker A: So I actually saw Jurassic park in theaters. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Wow. [00:04:03] Speaker A: When I was seven. That was crazy, man. [00:04:05] Speaker C: I didn't see it until it came out of video. [00:04:09] Speaker A: Mom, you're taking me to Jurassic park. [00:04:11] Speaker B: No wonder I fucking cuss and do. [00:04:13] Speaker A: Drugs all the goddamn time. [00:04:16] Speaker B: It's your fault. [00:04:18] Speaker A: I'm sorry, mom. I love you. [00:04:19] Speaker B: I'm just kidding. [00:04:21] Speaker C: Our second issue for the day is king Spawn number 28, which. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Woo. [00:04:27] Speaker C: It's actually pretty smooth sailing for a contemporary king spawn. They've been pretty heavy of late, but this is cool. [00:04:34] Speaker A: It's a fun little short story, kind of. [00:04:37] Speaker C: It breezes. [00:04:38] Speaker B: It clips along, does. [00:04:40] Speaker A: So we get two Todd fathers. [00:04:41] Speaker C: Yeah, double Todd father. It's been a while for that. [00:04:44] Speaker B: It has been. [00:04:47] Speaker C: I was actually talking to my mom a couple of days ago, and she was like, I noticed that my name comes up on the podcast a lot. And she was like, honestly, the reason I didn't let you watch a lot of things is because you had nightmares. Sorry, mom. I'm a little scaredy boy. And I guess I got over it a little bit. [00:05:07] Speaker B: I would get scared, but I guess I would just give the first dozen. [00:05:13] Speaker C: Times I watched Jurassic park or so there was the, okay, it's time for you to hide your face. And I'd be like, smash my face into the. [00:05:24] Speaker A: Do that with Ghostbusters. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:05:28] Speaker A: I would be too scared to watch. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Parts of Ghostbusters for sure, but I. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Would watch parts of it, and I would, like, go hide and come back. [00:05:34] Speaker B: My mom always talked about it. [00:05:37] Speaker C: It was the same way with Raiders of the Lost Ark. My dad would send to be out of the living room, but there's, like, one angle where you could see, like, half the tv. So I'd be, like, trying to watch the old Nazi dissolve into a whole bunch of. [00:05:50] Speaker B: No, last Crusade. [00:05:51] Speaker C: Not raiders of the Lost Ark. [00:05:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:05:54] Speaker C: Both of them have Nazis getting to come up. [00:05:57] Speaker A: I don't even know if Donovan's technically a Nazi. He's more of an entrepreneur American. [00:06:03] Speaker C: Yeah, but he had the swastika pin. [00:06:07] Speaker B: That gets at the end, right, doesn't he? [00:06:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess he. He's an American. That becomes a, though. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, he's a. [00:06:16] Speaker C: Actually, I think the last Crusade was the first Indiana Jones movie I saw. And it was, like, the only Indiana Jones movie I knew about. Until one day I was like, what is this? [00:06:25] Speaker B: How have I not seen this for Raiders? Mine was definitely Raiders. I just remember we love that movie. That's crazy. [00:06:33] Speaker A: It's crazy how violent that is for a kids movie. Not a kids movie, but a PG movie. [00:06:39] Speaker C: Pre PG 13 rating. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Right. [00:06:42] Speaker A: It was like, well, it's not r, definitely. But it still looks a lot better. [00:06:46] Speaker C: Than a lot of r rated movies nowadays, though. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:49] Speaker A: Oh, God. It would definitely be r if it was released today with a head exploding like that. [00:06:54] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. I was watching that new Godzilla Bai Kong trailer, and there's a scene where there's just like, a wall of fire. [00:07:06] Speaker B: And I was like, that looks so. [00:07:08] Speaker C: Much better than spawn 1997. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Yeah, fire is good. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Fire is good. Fire is good. [00:07:14] Speaker C: Peter Jackson did a good job on that Balrog. [00:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:17] Speaker C: Hasn't had. [00:07:17] Speaker A: That was kind of how they cracked it. [00:07:19] Speaker B: It was doing a lot of those movies. [00:07:21] Speaker A: The prequel trilogy and the Lord of the Rings. Really pushed a lot of that technology. And Spawn, unfortunately, came out before that. Yeah, but this did come out contemporary with Jurassic park. So we're talking issue twelve. And they do talk about Jurassic park about seven times. [00:07:37] Speaker C: Almost as much as Johnny does in a regular episode of regarding Spawn. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Yeah, almost as much. [00:07:43] Speaker A: But we always start with the covers. And we said it's an iconic cover. It's one of the colons on our logo. If you look in close on the. [00:07:51] Speaker B: Re part, that's Colon's the punctuation, not. [00:07:55] Speaker C: Colon, the body part. Get your mind. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Come on. But it's the spawn logo. The orb as it's. [00:08:04] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's with half chapel's face or chapel signal and spawn shot. Kind of a spoiler. Yeah. [00:08:13] Speaker A: I mean, put it together. [00:08:14] Speaker C: It's a spoiler for the next episode. Next issue. Jesus Brain got me very messed up calling these issues episodes. [00:08:22] Speaker A: I call them episodes too. [00:08:23] Speaker C: It's tough. I can't get over it. [00:08:25] Speaker B: I didn't have a problem with it for a while. [00:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah. But it's the classic spawn logo. It's a dollar 95. You got spawn and the image logo looking sad. I love that. [00:08:37] Speaker C: Yeah, it's great. [00:08:38] Speaker B: It's great, Spawn. [00:08:39] Speaker C: It's a great cover. It's a great, classic cover. [00:08:41] Speaker B: It's perfect. [00:08:41] Speaker C: It's a perfect cover. [00:08:42] Speaker B: All right. [00:08:43] Speaker C: And that's issue twelve, Johnny. [00:08:44] Speaker A: That's it. No, it's home. Like you said on the chat, it's a Tome issue. Boy, Tom going on here. [00:08:51] Speaker B: Tom O fucking worked overtime on this. [00:08:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, he had to have been burning the midnight oil. He probably had to get a prearranged funding from the Todd father to get carpal tunnel surgery after this, boy. [00:09:07] Speaker A: Yeah, because this is when he's hand lettering it, right? [00:09:10] Speaker B: Yeah, because Tom O said that. [00:09:13] Speaker C: Or not. Tom O. Thomas Healy said that was somewhere around, like, 95, 96, right? [00:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:17] Speaker B: That they started doing. Yeah. Wow, man. [00:09:22] Speaker C: Oh, boy. My hand hurts already just looking at this first. Gotta. We gotta crack this bad boy open, Johnny. [00:09:30] Speaker A: We're cracking. It is like I said, it's called flashback. We've got the credits here. Story and art by Todd McFarlane, letters and editor. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Oh, he's the editor, too? [00:09:42] Speaker A: Okay, nice. Tom Orchakowski didn't know that. [00:09:44] Speaker B: That's cool. [00:09:46] Speaker C: I'm sure that means that he was allowed to say, I'm not going to write that too. I'm going to cut it out. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Or he was just like, hey, you want to be the editor, Tom? We need an editor. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Probably. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Color by Steve Olif and Ruben rude. That's a cool name. [00:10:05] Speaker C: That is a good name. [00:10:07] Speaker B: That makes me want to open a. [00:10:08] Speaker C: Sandwich spot with a rude Ruben that has, like, spicy thousand island or something like that. Or, like, kimchi instead of sauerkraut. [00:10:17] Speaker B: Would that work? That could work. Johnny, we're going to have to open. [00:10:19] Speaker C: A sandwich spot and just make experimental sandwiches. [00:10:23] Speaker A: We'll be open name after spawn characters overkill. [00:10:27] Speaker C: Spawn cafe. If you're slovenly and covered in crumbs, your meal is free. You got to look like Sam Burke or the clown. [00:10:37] Speaker A: If you come in with no belt and your pants undone, they stay up. [00:10:40] Speaker C: Pants don't button for free. You don't pay a bill. [00:10:43] Speaker B: You don't pay a bill. [00:10:46] Speaker C: It's like a disgusting version of the heart attack cafe in Vegas. [00:10:49] Speaker A: This issue is dedicated to Sheldorf. [00:10:52] Speaker C: I don't know who Sheldorf is. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Did you look it up? [00:10:54] Speaker C: American comic book enthusiast and founder of San Diego Comic Con International. [00:10:58] Speaker B: He didn't die. [00:10:59] Speaker A: He wasn't dead when this was made, though. [00:11:00] Speaker C: Yeah, no, because he only died in 2009, so. Yeah, I guess it's just, I mean. [00:11:05] Speaker B: They talk a lot about. [00:11:06] Speaker C: In the back matter, they talk a lot about comic conventions. [00:11:09] Speaker A: So this is dedicated to Sheldorf, who is the creator of San Diego Comic Con, which. That's pretty monumental. [00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's now the. To say the least. It is the premier comic con in America. Yeah. [00:11:22] Speaker A: Like, hollywood goes there. Everyone goes there. [00:11:23] Speaker C: Everybody goes there. Taco Bell goes there and makes a concept restaurant, like, from Demolition man. Demolition man, yeah, a fancy taco Bell. They did that a few years ago. [00:11:33] Speaker B: That's awesome. Yeah. [00:11:35] Speaker A: I will take you to Taco Bell. [00:11:39] Speaker B: That's a good movie. [00:11:40] Speaker C: That's a good movie. [00:11:41] Speaker A: I like demolition man. I liked it as a kid because they had boobs in it just for, like, a second. [00:11:46] Speaker B: Yeah, lots of foul language. [00:11:48] Speaker A: Yeah, because he's got to yell the thing. [00:11:50] Speaker C: Also, Wesley Snipes. Wesley Snipes was just great. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Oh, he was badass in it. It was. What's his name? [00:11:57] Speaker A: Marcus Phoenix. [00:11:58] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:11:58] Speaker C: We should probably watch it again. [00:12:00] Speaker B: We should do it. [00:12:00] Speaker A: We have to watch it. [00:12:02] Speaker C: We should start spawn adjacent. [00:12:03] Speaker A: That's totally spawned. [00:12:04] Speaker C: Yeah, we should start a twitch, Samuel. A twitch channel and do watch alongs. [00:12:09] Speaker B: On Monday nights or something like that. We could do that. That'd be fun. [00:12:12] Speaker A: I haven't watched a lot of mystery science theaters, so I've been getting practice in. [00:12:15] Speaker C: I've been watching a lot of Tom Cruise movies. [00:12:17] Speaker B: Hey, there you go. [00:12:19] Speaker A: That's not. Did you watch collateral yet? [00:12:21] Speaker C: I watched collateral back in high school. I haven't seen it. I liked it when I watched it the first time, though. [00:12:26] Speaker B: It's really good. I remember it being one of my favorites. [00:12:29] Speaker C: I just watched the firm for the. [00:12:30] Speaker B: First time, and that was pretty excellent. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good. [00:12:35] Speaker C: I like when Tom Cruise is just, like, nominally the good guy. Like, he's still an asshole, but he's less of an asshole than everybody else around. Cause it's his Persona now is he's kind of just like, the good guy, hands down. But, like, in the firm, he's like. [00:12:54] Speaker B: I still just want money. [00:12:55] Speaker C: I'm a lawyer who wants money. [00:12:57] Speaker A: That's why I love him. [00:12:58] Speaker B: People in collateral. [00:13:00] Speaker A: Because he's like, a murdering wolf. He looks like a wolf, and he's just, like, crazy. He uses that energy just to be, like, a bad guy. And he works really cool. Also, he's good in Tropic Thunder. [00:13:10] Speaker C: I haven't seen Tropic Thunder yet. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Oh, you got to watch Tropic Thunder. [00:13:13] Speaker B: I need to get on that. Also. Collateral. [00:13:16] Speaker C: Spawn adjacent. It's got our boy Albert Simmons in it. [00:13:19] Speaker B: Jamie Foxx. That's right. Good actor. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Good actor. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Going to be spawn the once in future spawn. [00:13:28] Speaker A: And then they get the credits for oleoptics, which is the coloring software they. [00:13:32] Speaker C: Use, I think I do like how the oleoptics has a little squiggly signature on the COVID Right underneath the Todd father's name. It just says oleo. [00:13:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:13:44] Speaker B: So that. [00:13:45] Speaker A: There we go. [00:13:45] Speaker C: Creative director of development is Terry Fitzgerald, who gets bashed in this issue pretty heavily. [00:13:52] Speaker A: He does. [00:13:53] Speaker C: Al Simmons is not here for Terry Fitzgerald in issue twelve of Spawn. [00:13:57] Speaker A: He's pissy at him. [00:13:59] Speaker C: Graphics coordinator is Julius Simmons. [00:14:02] Speaker B: There you go. So it opens. [00:14:06] Speaker C: Let's get into it, Jody. [00:14:07] Speaker A: Here we go. We start with spawn issue twelve, baby. [00:14:11] Speaker C: A beautiful moon. Look at that. [00:14:13] Speaker B: That's a great moon. It's a good moon. [00:14:15] Speaker C: That's the moon. I imagine when I'm at Denny's and I'm about to order moons over my hammy. [00:14:19] Speaker A: I just imagine it when. That's the moon that the Mactonites hang out in front of. But he is the moon out in front of the moon. [00:14:27] Speaker B: I don't know, Johnny. [00:14:29] Speaker C: It's a mystical. It's a mystical space. The Mac tonight universe. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah. There weren't any good, like, mascot commercials at the Super bowl this year. [00:14:39] Speaker B: No, there weren't no Mac tonights or. But, you know, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? I don't know. [00:14:48] Speaker A: Watch the other commercials. Watch the Deadpool trailer. [00:14:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:53] Speaker C: The commercials are now just an excuse to have a celebrity in a commercial. [00:14:57] Speaker B: And I don't care about that. [00:15:00] Speaker A: I want it to be used to do that. They used to do that shit in Japan. Keep that shit in Japan. Don't do it over here. They used to be too embarrassed to do big commercials. Now they don't care. [00:15:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:10] Speaker A: Celebrities love hawking shit now. [00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:15] Speaker A: But you remember, like, in the early 2000s, be like, here's some crazy commercials that Arnold Schwarzenegger did in Japan. [00:15:22] Speaker C: That's like half of the point of lost in translation. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. [00:15:26] Speaker A: That's true. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:26] Speaker A: Because that's totally right. [00:15:28] Speaker B: That's also kind of the, I mean. [00:15:31] Speaker C: Back before, Americans were like, oh, shit, japanese baseball is great. That's basically the whole point of Mr. Baseball, where Tom Selleck is a retired baseball guy and goes over to Japan. [00:15:41] Speaker B: To keep playing baseball. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Did you know Japan likes baseball? [00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:46] Speaker C: I mean, Japan is fucking great at baseball. [00:15:49] Speaker A: Wanda's been watching that show Tokyo Vice on HBO. It's pretty good. [00:15:53] Speaker C: I've heard it's pretty good. [00:15:54] Speaker A: I've caught a couple episodes. I always taunt her because cancel Elgor's in it. [00:16:00] Speaker C: I didn't even know it existed until somebody posted a announcement for season two. And I was like, oh, what's. [00:16:08] Speaker A: Cool? [00:16:08] Speaker B: I got to get on noir. Nice. Yeah. [00:16:11] Speaker A: So to get on it, we open up with the moon, and we get this cool spawn's cape going crazy, just like in Super bowl. What's her name's Cape? Was that Alicia Keys? Alicia Keys, yeah. [00:16:22] Speaker C: I thought that exact same thing. [00:16:23] Speaker A: And then I was like, spawn. [00:16:24] Speaker C: Reddit was immediately like, alicia Keys is spawn. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And Wanda thought it was funny when I was like, it's spawn, so at least she gets the spawn jokes. [00:16:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's good. [00:16:35] Speaker C: Wanda wasn't there for me to make. [00:16:37] Speaker B: The joke to her. So sad. [00:16:40] Speaker C: I just had to make it to the dogs. And they don't give a shit. [00:16:44] Speaker A: They don't give a shit. [00:16:44] Speaker C: They're like, does he have chicken? [00:16:46] Speaker B: If he doesn't have chicken, I don't care. [00:16:50] Speaker A: This opening giant monologue here was actually, I can't not hear it in the top father's voice, because on, like, the second or third episode of the animated series, he adapts part of this because he definitely says the thing about he had the right wiring. I remember that. So I think he says part of. [00:17:07] Speaker B: This because he talks about love and. [00:17:11] Speaker A: Stuff in his little intros to the. [00:17:13] Speaker B: Animated series, the well tooled machinery. [00:17:16] Speaker A: But it's kind of a reset after all the zaniness of the other issues of all the different authors. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of just like, back to. [00:17:23] Speaker C: It brings us back, Johnny, to the. [00:17:25] Speaker B: Very first issue titled questions, where we. [00:17:29] Speaker C: Just got questions on questions here, Johnny. [00:17:32] Speaker B: So this first page, beautiful cape, beautiful. [00:17:35] Speaker C: Moon, just resetting, making sure we know where Spawn is. Spawn does things out of love. He killed out of love. That's the thing that allows Melbolgia to get him by the shortened janglies. Shortened janglies, shortened curlies. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Shorten something. [00:17:53] Speaker C: I mean, it's meatbally now. [00:17:55] Speaker B: So meatball. [00:18:00] Speaker C: Oh, we went blue a little early. [00:18:02] Speaker A: And I already called out my mother. It's awful. [00:18:06] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:18:07] Speaker C: We're going to have to have her call, like, live and be like, you boys, you got to stop with those jokes. [00:18:12] Speaker A: Stop cursing. [00:18:15] Speaker C: Get rid of that bathroom humor. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Well, she needs to talk to Tod father then, because he's got some bathroom humor in this issue. Naughty. [00:18:24] Speaker C: Yeah, but before we get there, we get this beautiful two page spread of spawn just crouching on the top of. [00:18:31] Speaker B: That church like he does with the. [00:18:35] Speaker C: Cool little bat at the top who's just like. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Yeah, his bat friend. [00:18:41] Speaker B: That's just great. [00:18:42] Speaker A: Like the angle on the cross. Tom McFarland's obviously had a lot of practice doing this kind of imagery in Spider man. Yeah, he just nails it. [00:18:51] Speaker C: And the fact that all the focus is up here, so that way the buildings can be super tall. [00:18:58] Speaker B: It's real cool. [00:18:59] Speaker A: And he's just kind of monologuing. Kind of just. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Recapping. Honestly, he's recapping the first like eleven issues. Kind of basically what this is. [00:19:08] Speaker C: So he's still pretty amnesiatic. Amnesia. [00:19:12] Speaker B: He still has amnesia because he went. [00:19:14] Speaker A: To purgatory after angels. He just kind of tries to explain that because remember, he just disappears. [00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:19] Speaker A: And then he's in the Dave Simms one, right? [00:19:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:22] Speaker C: He comes back because he touches. What was it? The ribbon or the emblem? [00:19:28] Speaker A: The spear. [00:19:29] Speaker C: The spear. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. And then cog's like, let's get out. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Let's get out of here. Yeah. And then he ends up in Dave Sim world. And then he comes back and does Frank Miller world. [00:19:43] Speaker B: And now he's back. Now he's back. [00:19:49] Speaker C: So he occasionally gets flashbacks of his memories of his first time on earth. [00:19:56] Speaker B: As the tod father. Just. [00:20:00] Speaker C: He's back. He's back. Among his newfound friends, Johnny New York's homeless. He's still trying to figure out what his powers are, how to control his symbiote there. And he finds himself on top of this church again. He's like, this is the third time I've been on this church. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Why am I coming to this church? Yeah. [00:20:19] Speaker C: So he's still just kind of trying. [00:20:21] Speaker B: To work through it. And then he's like, maybe this because. [00:20:25] Speaker C: This is where I got married. [00:20:27] Speaker B: And so then he has a little. [00:20:28] Speaker C: Flashback to his wedding. He doesn't remember the wedding, he just remembers Wanda. [00:20:34] Speaker B: So it's all very sweet there. Yes. [00:20:40] Speaker A: We got the intro of Granny Blake. [00:20:42] Speaker C: Yeah, this is Granny Blake. Granny Blake's first thing is like, out, make her take your last name. That's so funny. [00:20:50] Speaker A: That's exactly what Granny, my granny Blake is like. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Wanted to take my name and Granny refuses to believe it. [00:20:59] Speaker C: Yeah. And then Granny's like, yeah, but what about the children? You got to give them some hyphenated, silly names. Think about the children. And I was like, we'll just make them shorten Blake Simmons to bs, little bs and big bs. [00:21:14] Speaker B: Well, we have two. [00:21:18] Speaker C: Oh, Al's such a charmer. When he wasn't out killing people or getting shot for the president, he was wooing the old ladies there, Johnny. [00:21:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they love him. [00:21:30] Speaker C: I bet he and DJ slider bite would have, like. It would be like the dueling pianos of talking to older people, of doing stand up comedy for your grandma. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Who would be better? I don't know. [00:21:43] Speaker C: We might have to do a side by side comparison. [00:21:46] Speaker B: Then we get, oh, boy. [00:21:50] Speaker C: Suave as hell. Mr. Terry Fitzgerald there. [00:21:53] Speaker A: I know. Look at that. [00:21:54] Speaker C: Look at him. Look at him. And then he's like, how dare he? He was my best friend, and she was my wife. Why did he marry her? [00:22:03] Speaker A: And Spawn's like, I can't deal with this. [00:22:05] Speaker B: I need some help. [00:22:06] Speaker A: I think I know how to get one. [00:22:08] Speaker B: Get some. [00:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah, and look at that no spawn nose. Yeah, it's like it's missing. [00:22:14] Speaker B: It's a good profile. It's a good profile. [00:22:18] Speaker C: But we have to wait a minute while he gets his help, because we cut to Jason Wynn sitting in one. [00:22:26] Speaker A: Of our many story threads of, like, six or seven. [00:22:29] Speaker C: Yeah, so many. [00:22:31] Speaker A: It's like he's, like, holding this all back as he's letting the other writers do their stuff for those four issues. And I was like, okay, I got to get everybody back in. [00:22:38] Speaker C: It's like. It's like I got to write it down before I forget about it. So that way, we don't forget to do it. [00:22:42] Speaker B: I know that. It's like the. [00:22:44] Speaker C: Did I actually do that, or did I just think about doing it right. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Or did I have a dream about doing it? [00:22:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. [00:22:51] Speaker C: Doing stuff is crazy, Johnny. [00:22:53] Speaker B: How do we do it? [00:22:54] Speaker A: I don't know. How do we do things? [00:22:56] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Speaking of doing things, we got Jason Wynn in the CIA, in his office in D. C. And this is picking up a thread that they had left off on where Terry had been getting some files. Yeah, they looking into Al's death and some other things. [00:23:13] Speaker C: They jump into it much more specifically and earlier in the television series, but here, it's still taking a slow run. [00:23:24] Speaker B: That's right. [00:23:25] Speaker A: They do. In the tv show. [00:23:26] Speaker B: That's right. [00:23:28] Speaker C: Because they got cool early 90s computer action going on. [00:23:31] Speaker B: Johnny, don't copy flat top hair with. [00:23:34] Speaker A: Like, the curl that all these people have. Like, that guy has it. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:37] Speaker C: It's like a pseudo pompador. It's like the tod. Father wanted to draw a mullet, but he didn't want to do the long hair in the back, so he just shaved it. This CIA lackey is telling Jason Wynn that Terry Fitzgerald's their number one suspect for the person who's doing some hijinks within the CIA sites. [00:23:57] Speaker B: But as we know, it was most. [00:23:59] Speaker C: Likely Al Simmons because he went to the CIA weapons depot and took all them guns. It's no fair to Terry that Al's actions are blowing back on him, but, I mean, it's not the first time, and it won't be the last. [00:24:14] Speaker B: That's true. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Spawn doesn't care because he hates Terry right now. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Fucking Wanda. [00:24:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:22] Speaker A: Not to be so crude, because he's in love with. I mean, that's not what bugs him. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what bugs him? Yes. It also bugs him that he is sterile. [00:24:34] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I was going to say that's what's bugging him is that he couldn't give Wanda the child she wanted. Right. And it obviously entwined with sex. Their bedroom. Them and him and Wanda's bedroom is what he's like. That's my bedroom. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Exactly. He can't get in the. [00:25:00] Speaker B: Up or. [00:25:01] Speaker C: Cooking up some kakamimi scheme to trap Terry in his wrongdoings. [00:25:06] Speaker B: And then we cut to Al getting help, and he gets help by dressing. [00:25:12] Speaker C: Up in incognitus mode with the image hat and going. [00:25:18] Speaker A: Image hat? The grand tradition of the image hat that carries on to hobby and gunslinger. [00:25:23] Speaker B: These days. [00:25:24] Speaker C: Between the two of them, I would. [00:25:25] Speaker B: Rather have the blue one, but they. [00:25:28] Speaker A: Don'T make the blue too certain connotation to a red hat these days. [00:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:33] Speaker C: Also, I just like blue better. [00:25:35] Speaker A: I don't have a blue hat. I'd take a blue hat. I got a red spawn hat or a maroon. [00:25:39] Speaker B: I have one blue hat. I have one blue hat. [00:25:43] Speaker C: One blue hat. It's my baseball hat that I wear to baseball games. So it is just, like, gross. With sweat. [00:25:50] Speaker A: Beer sweat. [00:25:51] Speaker C: Probably need a new blue hat. But, yeah. Al shows up to Granny Blake's. [00:25:57] Speaker B: She's just sitting on the porch, chilling. Chilling. And Alice, just like, hey, guess what? [00:26:06] Speaker C: There is an afterlife. I should have paid attention to you. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Heaven. Hell's real. [00:26:10] Speaker C: You're going to heaven. Congratulations. It's just. No, you didn't just come by to tell me I'm coming to heaven. You have more important things than that, don't you? [00:26:20] Speaker A: Well, I also love that she was like, I'll see you there. And he was like, no, you won't, actually. [00:26:25] Speaker B: You won't fucking love Granny Blade. [00:26:29] Speaker A: She's like, I won't be there with you. Sorry, Granny. [00:26:31] Speaker C: Like, how, after all that's out of the way. She's like, don't worry, don't worry. She didn't take her new husband's last name either. So you're good there. [00:26:42] Speaker A: Of course she's going to mention that. [00:26:44] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [00:26:47] Speaker C: You've talked to old people? [00:26:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:26:50] Speaker C: They get on one track and they don't want to leave it until they decided they're done with it. [00:26:57] Speaker A: I love this incognito spawn, too. [00:26:59] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:27:00] Speaker A: With the green eyes. It's really good. [00:27:01] Speaker C: There's the green eyes. He's in jeans and like, a Nehru jacket. Yeah, it's such a big jacket. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Look at that. [00:27:08] Speaker C: Makes you wonder if this is clothes he borrowed from the unhomed men or if he was able to turn the costume into it. [00:27:16] Speaker B: I don't think he has that much. [00:27:18] Speaker C: Power over it right now. [00:27:19] Speaker B: He borrowed it. [00:27:20] Speaker A: He was, like, naked in the alley. That means. It means he stripped down. [00:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess he just took it with Bobby. [00:27:28] Speaker C: I'm having, like, physical sensation flashbacks of this chair that Granny Blake is sitting in. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking. [00:27:37] Speaker C: Those get so nasty because they stay outside all the time and it's like. [00:27:41] Speaker A: They stick to you. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:43] Speaker C: And you fall through the slats. [00:27:44] Speaker A: It's like they're so uncomfortable and it. [00:27:47] Speaker C: Takes, like, no time for them to become unbalanced. So you're just like man folding outdoors chairs. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Stuck. [00:27:57] Speaker C: Jenny, hot take outdoor chair is bad. [00:28:02] Speaker A: You don't like an anirondack chair? [00:28:03] Speaker C: Oh, no, an anirondack chair is good, but like most, most of the affordable options. [00:28:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:11] Speaker C: The problem with an anirondack chair is you gotta have a sizable enough porch. [00:28:14] Speaker B: To put it on. That's true. [00:28:17] Speaker C: It can't be out in the rain and stuff. [00:28:18] Speaker A: And does she does still love you as he's walking away. [00:28:23] Speaker C: That answers one question that spawn has. But then we get, oh, man, Johnny. [00:28:29] Speaker B: We get another page with so many words on it. [00:28:32] Speaker A: So many words. Tomo's hands are to fall off. [00:28:36] Speaker C: We got the pundits going on. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Old Brock. [00:28:41] Speaker C: The shock is on Viacom six now members comments. [00:28:45] Speaker B: So he's not even like part of the team. [00:28:49] Speaker C: He's just like. It's like a PBS station that has. Donors can occasionally put their comments on air. That's what he's reading, the donor comments. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Oh, Brock see, people. Yeah. [00:29:06] Speaker C: Actually, he actually makes a very good point. Like, if you're going to be in gangs, teens are probably going to be in gangs. That's fine. But if you're going to violence each other. At least use fisticuffs. Don't use guns and shit. [00:29:19] Speaker A: Also, I just realized they're using the real channels here. [00:29:22] Speaker B: Oh, holy crap. [00:29:23] Speaker A: CNN, E. Entertainment. Like, those are the real channels. [00:29:27] Speaker B: Do they always do that? [00:29:29] Speaker A: No, they definitely stopped doing that. I don't know if they always do. [00:29:34] Speaker B: I wonder. [00:29:35] Speaker C: I wonder if it's because of you. [00:29:38] Speaker A: Just want to fuck around and find out if they said anything. [00:29:39] Speaker C: I wonder if it's because of what this last paragraph says where it's, the joke has to change his name to Badrock because of a Hannah Barbera suit. [00:29:51] Speaker B: I wonder. [00:29:52] Speaker A: Oh, and they sing the Flintstones later. [00:29:54] Speaker C: I get. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:57] Speaker C: I can't believe you spoiled that part of the episode, Johnny. [00:30:01] Speaker B: How dare you. [00:30:02] Speaker A: Cut it out. [00:30:02] Speaker C: Bleep it. [00:30:05] Speaker A: I didn't get it that they're, like, taunting. I think that's probably why it has CNN and E and all that. They're probably, like, taunting them. [00:30:11] Speaker C: Yeah, probably. I would imagine young Tod McFarlane was maybe a little more vindictive than he is now. A little more of a stinker. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Yeah, but the CNN lady's just kind of talking about the general mafia stuff. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Brock. The shock is just like, yelling about teen violence, teen violence and about all that. [00:30:36] Speaker A: And then the E. Guy entertainment. They're going to make a movie out of Al Simmons. Clint Eastwood to. [00:30:42] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:43] Speaker A: That means you probably sing a song in the end credits about Al Simmons. You'd be like, al Simmons was a man who took a bullet. [00:30:51] Speaker B: But that's totally why. [00:30:54] Speaker A: I mean, they mentioned it, but in the light of fire, I could see an Al Simmons story where he takes a bullet for the president. It's like an early 90s thriller. Like 100%. [00:31:00] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Young Denzel could play him. [00:31:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:31:04] Speaker B: That would have been like, I took a bullet. [00:31:08] Speaker C: King Kong really ain't got nothing on him because I guess King Kong took a couple of bullets, but not for the president. [00:31:14] Speaker B: For the Empire State Building. Yeah. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Not for the president. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:18] Speaker A: Not even the tallest building anymore. [00:31:20] Speaker B: No. How dare. [00:31:23] Speaker A: We go from the pundits. [00:31:25] Speaker B: From the pundits to, from the pundits to the police. Yep. [00:31:32] Speaker A: And we get kind of a little interlude where they're talking about being in trouble for the. Billy Kincaid ended up in their. [00:31:42] Speaker C: Is. Sam is real upset and twitch isn't making it any better. Twitch is the background, like, well, actually. [00:31:52] Speaker A: This is Tom O working overtime here as crap. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Because Sam is a passionate man. [00:32:01] Speaker C: Johnny, you got to make sure that that passion comes through in his letters. He's like, what does he think, that we dragged Kincaid's bloody body up the side of the building? Yes, sir, he does. [00:32:13] Speaker A: It's exactly what he thinks. [00:32:16] Speaker C: Don't forget the ice cream scoop. Like, Sam's. Sam's just generalizing to get his anger across. And switch is like, don't forget the details. The details matter. I like the old trope of he's so angry, he's got his mouth open and the cigarettes just hanging in the air waiting for. [00:32:41] Speaker A: He's, like, floating as he's talking. [00:32:46] Speaker B: That's a great. That close up on Sandman, he's like. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Looks like he's like a chiseled out of stone. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy. [00:32:55] Speaker C: Love seeing our boys. I love seeing our boys. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:59] Speaker A: I love this last. This last panel. He's all, like, joyful and big smiles. [00:33:04] Speaker C: He's just super sarcastic. That it is, sir. I especially live for these sarcastic mood shifts of yours. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker A: Bitching at each other. [00:33:17] Speaker B: Like this middle switch here. [00:33:22] Speaker C: It looks like he's about to suggest they go on a boys trip to Atlantic City or something like that. He's like, hey, we both don't have jobs right now. I don't want to go home to seven kids. Let's go move somebody at the casino. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Let's do it. Yeah. So that's our third thread of the issue here. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Third or fourth. And then we get another cut again. [00:33:48] Speaker A: Another one. We're just kind of picking up where everyone kind of reintroducing everybody after the guest artist series, basically, is what it's doing. [00:33:56] Speaker C: Get. We get Wanda walking Cyan home from daycare with. [00:34:01] Speaker A: When I think of Wanda and Cyan in the comics, this is what I think. [00:34:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:06] Speaker B: Is what I always remember. Yeah. [00:34:09] Speaker C: Little tiny. [00:34:11] Speaker B: It's not. It's not Spaz Johnny. I know Shayna. Yeah. [00:34:17] Speaker A: This was Spaz in the movie. We never knew her name. She was just a little dog who went chicken rolled around on the floor. [00:34:26] Speaker C: Yeah. We got the scruffy meatball dog that they saved from the ASPCA. Johnny just walking around behind him. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Yeah. That she got from Ross Perot or whatever. Remember that? [00:34:38] Speaker C: Yeah. With his big old ears. [00:34:40] Speaker B: His big old ears. [00:34:43] Speaker C: And Cyan says no instead of yes. So when she means yes, she says no. I guess because she can't say yes. [00:34:53] Speaker B: She says yes. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Chess. She's singing about chess the musical. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah, she wants me to sing one night in Bangkok. Siam cyan. [00:35:04] Speaker A: Young girl who loves chess. Bet you never thought you'd learn about chess the musical on a spawn podcast. [00:35:15] Speaker C: One walk with Shayna and she don't get no juice. [00:35:19] Speaker B: That juice. [00:35:19] Speaker A: No juice for Shayna. [00:35:21] Speaker B: It's Cyan juice. [00:35:24] Speaker C: No juice. [00:35:26] Speaker A: She's got a pooh bear. [00:35:30] Speaker C: They stopped for Cyan to drink her juice. And doing just regular things like, here's your juice. [00:35:37] Speaker B: Don't spill it. [00:35:38] Speaker C: Shane is in the background. [00:35:39] Speaker B: Just arf. [00:35:42] Speaker A: What's the juice? [00:35:44] Speaker C: Give her the juice. Give her the juice. [00:35:46] Speaker B: And then we get. [00:35:49] Speaker C: Terry comes up and he's like, I'm. [00:35:50] Speaker B: Going to get you. [00:35:51] Speaker C: I'm going to get you. And Cyan's all, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. He throws her up in the air. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Look at that. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Look at how super high. Oh, my God. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Oh, man, that would be fun. [00:36:03] Speaker C: She probably weighs like six pounds there, Johnny. You know, Cyan's like, it's home. Let's go home. [00:36:10] Speaker B: And then we get here. [00:36:13] Speaker C: My action is ground to a halt because I've got a poster. [00:36:16] Speaker B: You also have the poster, Johnny. [00:36:17] Speaker C: Oh, I guess we forgot to mention we're reading the floppies this time, guys. [00:36:20] Speaker A: Oh, we didn't even mention. Yeah, we beat you up the floppy. I actually found this. I have, like, three copies of this issue. [00:36:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I have two copies of this issue. [00:36:28] Speaker A: It's a pretty common issue, I think. [00:36:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:32] Speaker C: It'S a blood wolf poster by Rob Liefeld. [00:36:35] Speaker A: By Rob Liefeld. [00:36:36] Speaker C: And that's all we need to say about that. It's got a cool 90s gun, but. [00:36:40] Speaker A: He has got some hair and, like, no feet. [00:36:45] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:36:46] Speaker C: I mean, if you like Rob Liefeld. [00:36:48] Speaker B: You should probably get this poster. [00:36:50] Speaker A: He's got pouches on his vest. [00:36:52] Speaker C: Yes, he does. So many lines on his chest there. His musculature is wild. I'm excited for this one. The next issue, there's a Walter Simonson one. [00:37:04] Speaker B: I don't know if I have 613, though. I don't know. I have to look. [00:37:08] Speaker C: I do have 13. [00:37:09] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. What's it look like? [00:37:13] Speaker A: Show it to me. Show me the COVID because I want to know if I have it. [00:37:15] Speaker C: Oh, the COVID Yeah. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Because I'll recognize it by the COVID if I have it or not. [00:37:21] Speaker B: Twelve. Yeah, I have that. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. That's a crazy cover. [00:37:24] Speaker C: So this is the COVID that was on the back of the violator miniseries. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:29] Speaker A: Hey, we're doing perfect. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we're doing good. [00:37:31] Speaker A: It's all right. Around the same time. [00:37:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:35] Speaker C: So Cyan, Terry and Wanda and Shayna all walk home. [00:37:40] Speaker A: She wants to watch her Winnie the Pooh tape. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Yeah, she does. [00:37:43] Speaker A: Winnie the Pooh has kind of had a moment in the. [00:37:46] Speaker C: Remember watching a lot of Winnie the Pooh. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah, they had the new adventures. And there was one called Pooh's Corner. When I was a little kid, there. [00:37:53] Speaker C: Were a couple of movies that came out, too. [00:37:54] Speaker A: You got to have the Pooh. [00:37:55] Speaker B: One was what? There was one where, like, Piglet gets. [00:38:00] Speaker C: Lost or something like that. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Piglet's big movie. [00:38:02] Speaker C: Then there was one where there was, like, the introduction of Tigger to the group. [00:38:07] Speaker B: The Tigger movie. Yeah. T I. [00:38:12] Speaker C: There's a couple of goons darken their doorstep there, like, actually darkening. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:38:18] Speaker A: Literally. [00:38:18] Speaker C: Literally. And Terry's like, why don't you guys go in here? I'll talk to these guys. [00:38:25] Speaker A: And they're just doing the classic. Like, you have a lovely family, Mr. Fitzgerald. Be pity if anything happened to them. [00:38:32] Speaker C: It's such a classic threat, but I can't see it. I can't read it as anything other than the meme now where it's like, that's a nice cookie you got there. Be a shame if someone were to eat it. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:44] Speaker C: So they get classic threatened and then immediately afterwards. Has Fitzgerald been properly advised? [00:38:53] Speaker B: They're like, yes, sir. [00:38:55] Speaker C: We gave him the threat, sir. [00:38:57] Speaker A: And they're going to have around the clock surveillance on him. And I love how you just see Jason Wyn's teeth. [00:39:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like Eskimo Joe. [00:39:06] Speaker C: They voted on whether they should change the name or not. And Oklahoma was like, no, don't change the name. So we still got insensitive name Joe in Stillwater, Oklahoma. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Get the t shirts while you can. [00:39:22] Speaker C: And the rest of. I mean, around this time, it would have been a big shirt to have. [00:39:26] Speaker B: In the early ninety s. Oh, yeah, I had many. [00:39:30] Speaker C: And then all of the other restaurants are even worse. Oh, boy. The iconography on those is pretty rough. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Mexico. Joe. [00:39:40] Speaker C: Joe's, Josephi's. There was Stillwater Bay. Is that what it was? [00:39:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but that was just a seagull. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that one wasn't bad. No, that was fine. But then, yeah, like Johnny said, they're. [00:39:53] Speaker C: Singing the Flintstones and they get the little. [00:39:55] Speaker B: Copyright. Hannah Barbera. [00:39:58] Speaker C: Godfather doing a little stinker business and tomo doing a lot of it. Overtime. Just on this page right here. [00:40:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:40:07] Speaker A: I love that spawn yells Wilma. [00:40:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:10] Speaker B: And then drinks. He's just getting drunk with the unhomed men. [00:40:14] Speaker C: The guys are like, ribbing spawn, like, what happened? Where'd you go last night? Did you get laid? I like how he stops to burp in the middle of laughing. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Is that what it is? [00:40:27] Speaker C: Yeah, it's har har. Burp har. [00:40:30] Speaker B: Oh, that. [00:40:32] Speaker A: I'm talking about the panel below. What is that? [00:40:34] Speaker C: The next one. Hold on. In the origins collection, where they reprint. [00:40:40] Speaker B: It, he goes, I don't know if you can see that. Oh, hick. Hick. [00:40:48] Speaker A: Yeah, because mine's all weird. [00:40:52] Speaker C: Yeah, mine is, too. [00:40:54] Speaker B: It looks like a shirt pocket. [00:40:56] Speaker A: Shirt pocket. [00:40:57] Speaker B: Or like a bag. Yeah, something went on with the printing. There's this. [00:41:05] Speaker C: We get our first. [00:41:06] Speaker A: He calls Dino a pussy, which is just like, come on, man. He's just a dinosaur dog. What's the big deal? [00:41:10] Speaker C: I mean, he's funny. I like Dino. But it's also our first mention of Jurassic park in the issue. The kids told me that Jurassic Park's a for real dinosaur. One of the other unholmed men is like, that movie can't be all that. None of us have seen it. [00:41:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they're talking about boys. [00:41:31] Speaker C: Let me tell you what's awesome. It's not giant lizards. It's Bobby over there. The heck with Jurassic park. Have you guys smelled his jurassic farts? [00:41:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I'm thinking about the unhoused folks going into a movie. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Reminds me of one time where I. [00:41:50] Speaker A: Was at the movie theater seeing hereditary. [00:41:53] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:54] Speaker A: And a person who's obviously unhoused was, like, carrying all their bags and stuff and movie hopping, which is good idea. Why not? [00:42:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I do. [00:42:04] Speaker A: But they walked in. It took them, like, five minutes to walk, find their seat, set all their stuff down, sat down, and looked at the screen. And at that moment is when Tony Collette cuts her own head off. [00:42:17] Speaker C: All right. [00:42:17] Speaker B: And she grossed herself. [00:42:18] Speaker A: And then he immediately stood up, grabbed all his back. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Of the movie. [00:42:27] Speaker A: I know, but he was just like, no, not watching this. [00:42:30] Speaker C: I thought you were going to say it was the telephone pole. [00:42:34] Speaker A: No, it was very close to the end of the movie. But he was just like. It was just hilarious because he got all settled in, saw that, and was just like, got up and left and had to pick up, like, three bags. It was hilarious. [00:42:45] Speaker B: I was like, that's so funny. [00:42:46] Speaker C: Poor dude. He just wanted to be inside in the air conditioning, not see. [00:42:50] Speaker A: I know it was a hot summer day. [00:42:52] Speaker C: Not see one of Australia's finest actors. [00:42:56] Speaker B: Mute their own head off of the fucking wire. [00:42:59] Speaker A: Yeah, they're talking about the Jurassic park and the jurassic farts. What do you think of Jurassic Park, David? [00:43:03] Speaker C: What do I think of Jurassic Park? I think it is a good movie. [00:43:08] Speaker B: I think it's a good movie. [00:43:09] Speaker A: It's one of the best adventure movies of all time. [00:43:12] Speaker C: It's great. It's fucking spared no expense. [00:43:15] Speaker A: Great characters, great costume design, great sets, great special effects. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Yeah, those dinosaurs hold up. They're real good. Yeah, characters too. [00:43:26] Speaker A: The characters. Just iconic. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:27] Speaker A: And each have their look. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah. That lawyer getting eaten off the toilet is primo. [00:43:32] Speaker A: Rafters are terrifying. [00:43:34] Speaker B: Life finds a way. I actually didn't like Ian Malcolm the. [00:43:42] Speaker C: First few times I watched Jurassic park. And then I was pissed that the lost world revolved around him and then eventually was like, no, I fucking love Ian Malcolm. [00:43:51] Speaker A: I love Ian Malcolm. It is weird. The lost world revolves around him, but that was a book decision. [00:43:56] Speaker B: That was a Michael Crichton. [00:43:58] Speaker A: And he's never done anything wrong. [00:43:59] Speaker C: No, never. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Absolutely not. We love him. Rip. [00:44:03] Speaker C: And then I like how they laugh, and then there's a silent panel, and then one of them burps, and then they all start laughing again. [00:44:11] Speaker A: There's, like, burping and farting. [00:44:13] Speaker C: As a five year old, if I had just had this page, I would have fucking devoured it over and over. [00:44:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:44:20] Speaker B: Like, mom, favorite fart joke. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Fart. [00:44:27] Speaker C: Garab has to walk away and take. [00:44:29] Speaker B: A little tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle. [00:44:31] Speaker A: She does. [00:44:32] Speaker B: Yes. [00:44:32] Speaker C: And then they're like, hey, garb, come back and tell us a story when you're done there. And it's like, okay. [00:44:39] Speaker B: And he finds Al's mask on the. [00:44:42] Speaker C: Way, and he's like, oh, what's this? Oh, look at me. I'm a hero now. I want to suck your blood. [00:44:48] Speaker A: She's acting all. [00:44:51] Speaker B: It's. [00:44:51] Speaker C: It's funny because he says, I want to suck your blood, and then burps immediately. Could you imagine having a vampire, like, corner you in the alley and be like, I want to suck your blood. Burp. Sorry, Charlie. I think I barfed on your head. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:45:11] Speaker B: It's just hilarious. [00:45:12] Speaker A: It's just like, so, yeah, this 90s gross out humor. [00:45:17] Speaker C: Yeah. This picture of Garab's face right here is wonderful. It's like the mad magazine rendition of spawn. [00:45:27] Speaker A: He does look like a mad magazine spawn. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:45:31] Speaker C: But then the costume starts thinking that he's an intruder because, well, he is. [00:45:35] Speaker B: And Al's like, no, no, don't do it. [00:45:38] Speaker A: And it's trying to suffocate. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And so Al gets over there and. [00:45:43] Speaker C: Rips the mask off his face, and he's like, garab, are you okay? And he says, yeah, don't worry. [00:45:47] Speaker B: I'll be okay. Don't worry. [00:45:48] Speaker C: I gotta tell you, not being able to breathe like that. Well, is almost bad as being around one of them jurassic farts. [00:45:57] Speaker A: Got him. [00:46:00] Speaker C: That Garab, always a kidder. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Even when a mask tries to kill him, he'll tell a fart. [00:46:07] Speaker B: That's. [00:46:08] Speaker C: That's the kind of people we need. [00:46:09] Speaker B: In the world, Johnny. [00:46:11] Speaker C: Near death experience. Let's make a fart joke. Not only a fart joke, but a callback fart joke to, like, 20 minutes early. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Yeah, with a sweaty pun. [00:46:24] Speaker B: Poor Bobby. Poor Bobby. [00:46:26] Speaker C: Is this Bobby Bootsy and Bobby Bobby or. I think it must Bobby, because weren't there. [00:46:32] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Bobbies. I think so. [00:46:35] Speaker A: I don't know. We'll find out. We'll be on that journey. [00:46:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:38] Speaker A: I don't know when they solidify the bootsy Bobby thing. I mean, I know it's in the next few. It's in the next, like, ten issues or so. [00:46:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:44] Speaker A: If I remember correctly. [00:46:45] Speaker B: Because Bobby, it's like, 30 or something. [00:46:50] Speaker C: Bootsy disappears sometime in the late twenty s. Yeah. Oh, boy. I'm already devastated. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:57] Speaker A: Because we went back and found it. Because it was the parliament of Green. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker C: I'm already devastated. Yeah, it was that issue. Oh, boy. It was like 37 or something. [00:47:04] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. [00:47:09] Speaker C: Well, I mean, then there'll be nobody to smell his jurassic farts. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Johnny. [00:47:13] Speaker C: And then he's just stuck smelling his own farts. And that's no fun. [00:47:17] Speaker A: Fat bastard said everyone likes their own brand. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:47:21] Speaker C: It's comforting. It lets you know that everything's all right. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Right. [00:47:25] Speaker C: Because if you don't smell correctly, it's like, what is wrong? I need to go see the doctor. [00:47:31] Speaker A: No, that's true. [00:47:33] Speaker B: That's true. [00:47:35] Speaker C: I used to work in a gastroenterology department. Literally, they talk about it all the time. That the reason you look at your poop before you flush it is so. [00:47:44] Speaker B: That way you know if something's wrong or not. Yeah. [00:47:47] Speaker C: You're hardwired to do that to make sure everything's okay. [00:47:49] Speaker B: It's not just because you're a gross. [00:47:51] Speaker C: Twelve year old boy, mom. [00:47:53] Speaker B: No, it's part of your biology. [00:47:57] Speaker C: One of my bosses actually had a book called what your poo is trying to tell you. And he would always just, like, wave it around during lab meeting. He'd be like, you got to read. [00:48:06] Speaker B: This book, you guys. [00:48:08] Speaker A: He's trying to tell you stuff. Your poo is. [00:48:14] Speaker C: Al decides to go all moody and emo and is like, leave me alone, you guys. [00:48:20] Speaker B: I need to be by myself. [00:48:22] Speaker A: And then because he gets, like, drunk bubbles. [00:48:25] Speaker C: Yeah, he gets drunk bubbles. But it's actually. [00:48:27] Speaker B: His memory is coming back. [00:48:29] Speaker A: And it's not the alcohol. [00:48:30] Speaker C: It's not the alcohol. And it's a whole bunch of random connections of things that he's seen before. And it's, like, not what it would absolutely mean. It's, like, two steps removed from what that visual means. Like, the coffin with the flag on it isn't about his funeral or his death. It's about America killing him. And the skull isn't just because he was dead Reaper, but the person who killed him. [00:48:58] Speaker B: And it's makeup. [00:48:59] Speaker C: And there's the dramatic lightning across the steeple. And closer to the steeple on the steeple. And the church isn't because that's where he got married. [00:49:09] Speaker B: It's the name of the person who killed him. The chapel. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Yeah, this is. It's just, like, I don't know. [00:49:15] Speaker B: This is funny. [00:49:17] Speaker C: This last splash page is amazing. [00:49:19] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's so cool. [00:49:20] Speaker C: He's got these crazy green glowing eyes. And he's doing as he wants to do, just yelling. [00:49:26] Speaker B: No. Really loud. [00:49:27] Speaker C: A lot of early Spawn is just wandering around yelling. [00:49:30] Speaker A: No, but, like, it's got Chappell there with a giant knife. It's just Chapel. Spawn's, like, eyes are just shooting. It's just, like, pretty iconic. [00:49:38] Speaker C: Chapel's also got a big gun and a massive bandolier. [00:49:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:49:42] Speaker C: He's also got badass. [00:49:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:44] Speaker A: And there we go. The first killer of Al Simmons has been revealed. [00:49:48] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. [00:49:49] Speaker A: The first of many. Well, first of two. [00:49:51] Speaker C: First of two, at least. [00:49:52] Speaker B: At least so far. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Can you imagine how sweaty would be to try to get Chappell in the movie? [00:49:56] Speaker C: Pretty sweaty. Pretty sweaty. Because I also think, wasn't he a co creation with Rob Liefeld? [00:50:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that was the other reason they didn't want to have to explain it. And originally her name was, like, Jessica Chappell. There's some fan art or not fan art, some concept art that was on the spawn archive of which she had, like, the skull thing a little more and kind of looked like Chappell. [00:50:17] Speaker C: That would be pretty cool. [00:50:18] Speaker B: But the reason she's named priest is. [00:50:19] Speaker A: To keep the church theme. [00:50:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it fits with the spawn theme pretty well. Oh, yeah. [00:50:26] Speaker C: We get the spawning ground. [00:50:28] Speaker A: The spawning ground. [00:50:29] Speaker C: I wonder if that Po box is still active or if they've just all gone directly to email. [00:50:33] Speaker B: Now. [00:50:34] Speaker A: This spawning ground has more text. Than probably the whole year of all spawn comics now put together. [00:50:38] Speaker C: Oh, jeez. And it's just letters from people. There's a nice mix of letters. There's people being like, issue ten. I saw what you did there. [00:50:49] Speaker B: It spoke to me. [00:50:50] Speaker C: There's issue ten. Garbage. You're garbage. Why are you garbage? And the response to that is what. [00:50:58] Speaker B: Johnny read at the beginning there. Such a. [00:51:01] Speaker C: Such a mean letter. Good lord. [00:51:04] Speaker A: Yeah, there's one really mean one. [00:51:07] Speaker C: There's a guy who was like, I saw spawn on the rack. I was like, what's that? But then my friend was like, this is hella good. And he was like, I got to. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Go back and get him. [00:51:17] Speaker C: So that's good. I don't know if Troy went ever ended up doing anything for image, but. [00:51:25] Speaker B: We should probably look into that. Yeah. Then. [00:51:33] Speaker C: Somebody being know, thank you for image. I don't like everything image puts out. Some of it's actually kind of garbage, but the stuff that I like is very good. [00:51:41] Speaker B: So thank you for it. [00:51:42] Speaker C: Doesn't matter if some of it's garbage or not. [00:51:45] Speaker B: Thank you for doing it. Which I thought was. [00:51:49] Speaker C: A well balanced letter there. This last one is a dude who was like, I felt personally attacked by issue ten because I buy the big two books. I'm not going to apologize for it. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Yeah, he made it really sad to see Superman locked up. He was like, I can't believe it. [00:52:12] Speaker C: I keep adding to the violator's green dress. [00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah, this guy was just, like, guilt ridden. [00:52:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a good back and forth. [00:52:22] Speaker A: A lot of good letters. Like I said before, it's just interesting. [00:52:24] Speaker B: To see how much more verbose I. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Guess you would say people were. [00:52:31] Speaker B: Is that the right word? [00:52:32] Speaker C: Yeah. The act of having to send in the letter, they're like, I got to make this worthwhile. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Well, they also think about it more. They're not just firing off a comment. It's like they're thinking about it and thinking about what the response could be. [00:52:42] Speaker B: And writing a pre response to their. [00:52:45] Speaker A: Response and trying to have some points and stuff. [00:52:48] Speaker B: And it's just interesting to see the. [00:52:50] Speaker A: Lost art of letter writing. [00:52:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, you should just start writing letters. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Write a letter. [00:52:55] Speaker C: Send us an email and we'll give you a po box and you can. [00:52:59] Speaker B: Send us a letter. [00:53:00] Speaker A: Or just send us an email and read it on air. [00:53:02] Speaker C: Either one. [00:53:03] Speaker B: That's true. That's true. [00:53:05] Speaker C: I always have to have at least one person that I write letters regularly. [00:53:08] Speaker B: To because I like writing letters. [00:53:11] Speaker C: Maybe I should write one to Thomas Healy. [00:53:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we should. [00:53:14] Speaker C: We get two blah blah blahs in the second one. They're. We know. We know we missed a month. So we got you two. [00:53:22] Speaker B: There's. [00:53:22] Speaker C: One of them is we're doing a spawn Batman crossover. [00:53:26] Speaker B: So that was exciting. Then the second announced that, and then. [00:53:30] Speaker A: There'S talk about the seven spot stops of the spawn tour, 93. That sounds pretty cool. [00:53:34] Speaker B: It does sound pretty cool. [00:53:37] Speaker C: And then the next one is more. [00:53:40] Speaker B: Stuff about Comic Con. [00:53:41] Speaker A: They came to Chicago Comic Con, David. [00:53:43] Speaker C: Yeah, they did. [00:53:43] Speaker A: July 3 and fourth. [00:53:45] Speaker B: Man, if only I had known in. [00:53:48] Speaker A: 1993 when we weren't in Chicago. [00:53:50] Speaker B: Definitely not. [00:53:51] Speaker C: I don't even think I knew Chicago existed when I was five. [00:53:55] Speaker B: Probably not then. [00:53:58] Speaker C: Terry Fitzgerald's like, what, you haven't seen jurassic park yet? Go see it. [00:54:01] Speaker B: It's good run. Yeah. So, yeah, that's what we got there. That's what we got there. We got some image, fan art. Got some good stuff. Got some good stuff. [00:54:11] Speaker A: I like the Savage dragon spawn. [00:54:13] Speaker B: You want fan art? [00:54:15] Speaker C: We got a pretty good Angela on the backside there. We got a laughing spawn. [00:54:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. He's just laughing. [00:54:23] Speaker C: Advertisement for plastic cases to put your comic books in. [00:54:27] Speaker A: Call a sealer. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:29] Speaker A: Do you have a sealer? Todd does lots of them. [00:54:32] Speaker B: And listen to this quote I care about. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Cool. I don't care if it preserves the comic. I don't care. It keeps the comic mint. When you hang these frames, your wall, your favorite comics inside, they look cool. [00:54:41] Speaker B: And that's the most important thing. [00:54:43] Speaker A: He's not wrong. [00:54:44] Speaker C: That's great. No, yeah, he's not wrong at all. [00:54:46] Speaker A: What a crazy time to think that this was crazy. How intense the ceiling industry, how intense it is. Like the CGC and all that stuff. This is funny that this was like, back in the day. [00:54:58] Speaker B: I don't know. When did that start? [00:55:01] Speaker C: It would have been around this time, really. [00:55:03] Speaker B: A lot of the takeoff of comic. [00:55:07] Speaker C: Collections for an investment and speculations was. [00:55:11] Speaker B: Around the early ninety s. Right. [00:55:13] Speaker A: Mr. Cosmic to bust. [00:55:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:17] Speaker C: Especially with the big, with image starting. A lot of people were like, these are going to be worth a lot of money these days. And the big reboot of X Men. [00:55:28] Speaker B: Yes. [00:55:29] Speaker C: Because people were starting to realize that those number one issues from the. Were pulling big bucks, and they were like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. In 20 years, these are going to be worth a million dollars. But then they printed so many of. [00:55:41] Speaker B: Them that you can get three or. [00:55:43] Speaker C: Four of them for $5. [00:55:45] Speaker B: Right. And that's like the 90s Star wars figures. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Everyone also bought them expecting them to be worth money. [00:55:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:51] Speaker A: And it's like, well, if you do. [00:55:52] Speaker B: That, that's not what's going to be worth money? Yeah. [00:55:55] Speaker C: It's the stuff that's hard to get a hold of. That nobody wanted. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Stuff you don't suspect. [00:55:59] Speaker C: It's the stuff nobody wanted the first. [00:56:01] Speaker B: Time around that makes the money. Right. [00:56:04] Speaker A: The stuff that no one thought was valuable will become valuable. [00:56:07] Speaker C: We get a wizard advertisement on the back with wildcats. Look at all those wild cats. [00:56:12] Speaker B: There they are. They're spartan and grifter and. [00:56:15] Speaker A: What's her name? [00:56:17] Speaker B: And maul. Maul. Yeah. [00:56:21] Speaker C: One of them's the computer lady. What's computer lady's name? Lady Tron. Lady Tron, I think it is. There's their boss hiding behind. [00:56:30] Speaker A: I think it is Lady Tron. [00:56:31] Speaker B: Nice. Maybe I'm wrong. [00:56:34] Speaker C: Their boss is hiding behind the mortal Kombat. [00:56:37] Speaker B: It's definitely Lady Tron cage there. [00:56:40] Speaker C: Their short boss. So short. [00:56:43] Speaker B: So short. It's pretty cool that you could have. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Won a mortal Kombat cabinet. [00:56:47] Speaker C: That would have been awesome. [00:56:49] Speaker A: That would have given my mom a pause. [00:56:50] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I wasn't allowed to play mortal Kombat. [00:56:52] Speaker A: Either, because, you know, we played at my cousin's house down in the basement. Yeah. [00:56:58] Speaker B: But I don't think we were allowed to rent it. [00:57:01] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I was specifically told I wasn't allowed to play it when I went to the skating rink. [00:57:08] Speaker A: No mortal Kombat. [00:57:09] Speaker B: No mortal Kombat. And then, of course you did. [00:57:14] Speaker C: I mostly ended up just watching people play it because, Johnny, I was bad at video games. It wasn't worth my quarters. I could be getting sticky hands instead. [00:57:23] Speaker A: Right. [00:57:23] Speaker B: Way more fun. [00:57:25] Speaker C: That's spawn number twelve, Johnny. [00:57:27] Speaker A: Spawn number twelve. Back to the classics. [00:57:29] Speaker B: That was a hoot, man. [00:57:30] Speaker C: That was a full and a half issue. [00:57:33] Speaker A: More than a hoot and a half. [00:57:34] Speaker B: As two hoots and a hog, hog, hog, two hawks and two hoots. Who can't wait. [00:57:43] Speaker C: What did I just say? I don't know what I said. [00:57:47] Speaker B: I don't know either. [00:57:48] Speaker A: But I liked it. [00:58:03] Speaker B: All right, well, we've gone from the classic twelve to a modern Kingspawn 28. [00:58:10] Speaker C: Yes, we do. [00:58:11] Speaker B: We kept. Same writer. Same writer. [00:58:18] Speaker C: This is a fun time, Johnny, because we get to see the progression of. [00:58:21] Speaker B: The toddfather's writing and, yeah, issue twelve. [00:58:25] Speaker C: Was definitely, like, unfettered toddfather. I have a feeling that editorial services provided by Tom O on issue twelve were light. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Seems like it. Yeah. Everything's in there. [00:58:39] Speaker C: But this one is lean and mean and achilles. [00:58:44] Speaker A: That's what I kind of liked about twelve, is just it had all different parts. If it was more a modern comic. They wouldn't have that salmon twitch scene in there. Yeah, they would probably just cut that out. [00:58:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:53] Speaker C: But also, comics have changed so much. Where we've got so much to keep us occupied every month. That we want to fit the comic. [00:59:02] Speaker B: In instead of Chew on it. Whereas chew on it. [00:59:05] Speaker C: Like, if you're waiting a month for a comic book. You could have read twelve a couple of times. And it fills up those dead spaces. [00:59:13] Speaker B: At the end of the day. Right, because tv used to stop at midnight. What the hell are we supposed to do? [00:59:19] Speaker C: Yeah, we ain't got 24 hours news, actually, I guess 24 hours news had just started. [00:59:24] Speaker B: But we ain't got no TikTok. [00:59:26] Speaker C: We ain't got no phones to look at on the train. [00:59:28] Speaker A: So this spawn is from November 2023. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Just a little bit ago. [00:59:34] Speaker A: And it's following up Spawn's trip into hell. [00:59:37] Speaker B: Yes. It's still there. He's still in hell. [00:59:41] Speaker A: He's going through the underbelly. But we got to talk about the COVID first. [00:59:45] Speaker B: Covers I've got. Which cover do I have? What do you got? [00:59:49] Speaker C: I have the Z Carlos cover. [00:59:51] Speaker B: Cover a. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Okay, that's what I got. [00:59:54] Speaker C: It's a graffiti style spawn. [00:59:56] Speaker A: My spawn stuff. David. My spawn stuff's gone out of just. I need to go organize some things. I keep forgetting to find the. Because I have this other cover, but I forget to go find it. I have a pile of stuff I need to put in bags and boards. [01:00:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's gone crazy. [01:00:09] Speaker A: It's getting out of David. [01:00:11] Speaker C: Oh, it's. It's like the Malbols in there. [01:00:14] Speaker A: No, I think I'm going to do is I'm going to go to. I just saw that Chicago comics buys comics. So if I could take some. I don't want not spawn, but non spawn comics. And take some to see if they would buy any. And then have some more room for my spawn. [01:00:28] Speaker B: Because Spawn's just growing. Yeah, a lot of it. [01:00:33] Speaker A: So we got to look up the B cover then. [01:00:35] Speaker B: Because I did not be ring it. [01:00:38] Speaker C: Oh, it's pretty dope. [01:00:40] Speaker B: It's Toledondo Toledano. And it's Spawn at the end of. [01:00:45] Speaker C: A hallway that's red and just covered in chains. [01:00:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:00:50] Speaker A: That is awesome. [01:00:51] Speaker B: Man, I wish I had gotten that cover. Shit, I'm a dumb. It's a dope. [01:00:56] Speaker A: I just like the neonness. Well, we didn't even talk about COVID a. Really? [01:00:59] Speaker B: Jesus. Oh, my God. [01:01:01] Speaker C: It's very good. So it's spawn in an alleyway in front of a wall. That's been graffiti. And then there's, like, Z Carlos. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Isn't he doing Rat City? [01:01:10] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah, totally. [01:01:13] Speaker A: So that's awesome. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:14] Speaker C: And there's, like, a broken Neon light. [01:01:17] Speaker B: That is a crown that just is. [01:01:21] Speaker C: Perfectly centered above Spawn's head. Almost like it's an accident. [01:01:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:25] Speaker C: And he's dripping necroplasm everywhere. [01:01:29] Speaker B: It's good. I like. [01:01:31] Speaker A: He's got his scruffy. Yeah, his back of his head is, like, scruffy. [01:01:36] Speaker C: Yeah, and the top of his cape is scruffy, too. And, like, his arms is scruffy. [01:01:42] Speaker B: He's just a scruffy dude. Scruffy, Spawn. Yeah, we're here for it. [01:01:47] Speaker C: But the B cover is also pretty dope. It's very. A horror movie poster. [01:01:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:01:52] Speaker A: Looks like something from, like, beyond the red door. [01:01:55] Speaker C: Or, like a hellraiser sequel. [01:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah, just like a red hallway with Spawn. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Like we said before. Spawn. Scary dude. [01:02:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Spawn's coming for you down a hallway like that. Pretty scary. [01:02:08] Speaker C: In case you've ever forgotten, reread issue five. [01:02:10] Speaker B: He's a scary guy. He's a scary guy. He'll stick popsicles in you. [01:02:15] Speaker C: Don't forget about the ice cream scoop. Don't forget it. [01:02:21] Speaker A: Crack this cover open. [01:02:22] Speaker C: Yes. [01:02:23] Speaker A: We got the credits. So just like last time, we got script flop. We got script flop. [01:02:30] Speaker C: We got flip flops worn by flip flop. [01:02:34] Speaker A: It didn't flip flop. It's still Tod McFarland. No flipping and no flopping. [01:02:37] Speaker B: No flipping. No flopping. [01:02:38] Speaker A: Art by Javi Fernandez. [01:02:40] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. [01:02:40] Speaker A: Doing amazing work as always. [01:02:42] Speaker B: So fucking good. Yeah. [01:02:44] Speaker A: Love all the monsters and stuff in this. [01:02:47] Speaker B: The depth to it and, like, the. [01:02:50] Speaker A: Size of the things. [01:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:52] Speaker A: Color by Ivan Nunes. Lettering by Amworld Design. [01:02:57] Speaker C: Given Tom O's wrist still hurts from doing issue twelve. [01:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah, after twelve. I got to take a break. [01:03:04] Speaker C: He's taking a 30 year break. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah. No, we know he didn't. [01:03:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:09] Speaker A: That man never takes a break. He needs to take a break. [01:03:11] Speaker C: No, he does. He should get a four day weekend. [01:03:14] Speaker A: He should go to Jurassic park. [01:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he should. [01:03:16] Speaker A: He should spare no fun vacation. [01:03:20] Speaker C: He's going to be the new version of the Jimmy Buffett. Being like, save the margaritas. [01:03:26] Speaker A: Saving the margaritas. [01:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Rip Jimmy. Yeah. [01:03:32] Speaker C: I hope that cheeseburger you got is everything you dreamed of. [01:03:35] Speaker B: He's in paradise. [01:03:37] Speaker A: Creative directors Todd McFarlane and Thomas Healy, friend of the show, is editor in chief. [01:03:44] Speaker C: We should start. Start calling him. So not only editor in chief, but chief of the Spawnberts. Yeah. [01:03:52] Speaker A: I sent Spawnvert to Wanda. And I had to sweatily explain. I wasn't talking about a pervert. [01:04:00] Speaker C: But. [01:04:00] Speaker B: I mean, we also accept either. [01:04:06] Speaker C: I've had to use the bonk sound effect enough times on both of us. [01:04:10] Speaker B: That it could be either one. Yeah. [01:04:13] Speaker A: So previously in King Spawn. Spawn continues his dangerous journey. Through the underbelly of hell. There it is. [01:04:23] Speaker B: It's right on the tin, Johnny. [01:04:25] Speaker C: That's exactly what happened. [01:04:26] Speaker A: You get Spawn. It opens on Spawn. [01:04:28] Speaker B: This is a cool, self contained little, like. [01:04:32] Speaker A: It's like a short story or like a parable. I don't know. I just really liked this issue, having this common theme, which we'll get to. I guess we should get past this part, because it reveals what's going on. But Spawn's carrying something with his change. Not sure what. [01:04:43] Speaker C: Yeah, there's the five panels. [01:04:49] Speaker B: And it's got him moving. [01:04:52] Speaker C: And then him resetting. And then him moving, and then him resetting. And then just like the chains obviously moving. [01:04:59] Speaker B: So it's a slow pull reset. [01:05:03] Speaker C: Pull reset that Spawn's going. So you can feel the effort that Spawn is putting into this. [01:05:09] Speaker B: It is Javi Fernandez does good work, Johnny. Oh, yeah. [01:05:13] Speaker C: He's making me feel tired just watching Spawn do all this manual labor. [01:05:18] Speaker A: He needs his peloton coach telling him what to do. [01:05:20] Speaker C: It's basically all internal monologue, this issue. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a little bit of dialogue, but mainly it's just internal monologue. [01:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:28] Speaker C: So he's talking about. He doesn't care about how he's so determined and focused on what he needs to do that. He doesn't care how long it takes. It doesn't care how much effort it takes to do it. He's just in the middle of it, Johnny. He knows what task he has to. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Do, and he's in the middle of it. He's not trying to hurry up and. [01:05:49] Speaker C: Get to the end. [01:05:50] Speaker B: He just knows that he's got to do it. Do it. He's going to do it. [01:05:55] Speaker C: This issue is very much the old adage, if you're in hell, if you find that you're in hell, you keep. [01:06:03] Speaker B: Going, because that's the only way to get out. And that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. [01:06:08] Speaker A: And we turn that page, and we get this beautiful, giant two page spread. Yeah, we see what is. He is huffing and heaving and pulling. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:15] Speaker C: And it's the old, what did we decide it was last time? [01:06:19] Speaker B: Crap. It was the telepathic, psychic. Telepathic. Because it wasn't squid? Yeah. [01:06:26] Speaker C: It's not the psychic ice cream. [01:06:28] Speaker A: This isn't the same guy either. [01:06:30] Speaker B: I don't think it's not. No, he wasn't that big. Maybe it is. I don't know. [01:06:37] Speaker C: I assumed it was, but, I mean, it wasn't. [01:06:39] Speaker A: I assumed it wasn't. [01:06:40] Speaker C: Anyways, he's a big, beefy fella that's. [01:06:44] Speaker B: Got tentacles and lots of eyes, and. [01:06:48] Speaker C: Spawn's just dragging him with his chains. [01:06:50] Speaker B: He says he knew it wasn't going. [01:06:51] Speaker C: To be easy, but he's got to do it. [01:06:53] Speaker B: Man knows what he's got to do. [01:06:55] Speaker A: It might be the same guy. It was just drawn. It's drawn by two different artists. [01:06:58] Speaker C: And then Spawn's thinking about, like, oh, the guy said something about this spot up here that I have to do stuff. I got to go through the cleansing bush. I like the idea of the cleansing bush. Just like parasitic vines, just being like, ah, swallow your soul. [01:07:16] Speaker B: But I'm a plant, Spawn. [01:07:18] Speaker C: So Spawn keeps dragging this big beastly guy through it, and he's like, I give the plants a little bit, but then I stop. [01:07:26] Speaker B: But then once you throw a little. [01:07:27] Speaker A: Bit of blood, it attracts other sharks in the water. [01:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:30] Speaker C: And so we got this flying guy with glowing red eyes coming at him, and we learned that field lord is. [01:07:37] Speaker B: What Spawn is dragging there and is. [01:07:40] Speaker C: Like, you're not supposed to kill that guy. [01:07:42] Speaker A: And Spawn's like, no one's ever killed their kind. [01:07:44] Speaker C: It's like, well, I just did. [01:07:46] Speaker B: So what you got to do about, huh? [01:07:48] Speaker C: Basically. And then this guy gives a bezorped to Al, and he's, ah, he falls to the ground, and he gets bezorped again. And this guy's like, you killed a field lord. That means you're too dangerous to continue living. And then Al's like, yeah, well, you know what? I might be human, but the symbiotes part vampire, so. [01:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah, lest you forget. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Yeah, just, we got to do that soon. [01:08:27] Speaker A: We're going to do that. [01:08:27] Speaker B: The blood feud. Oh, yeah. [01:08:29] Speaker A: Miniseries by Alan Morris. I think that's where the vampire stuff becomes a part. [01:08:33] Speaker C: Yeah, we should definitely do that. [01:08:34] Speaker B: Maybe after, like, I'll look ahead at. [01:08:37] Speaker A: Compendium one and find a good pause point. [01:08:39] Speaker B: Yeah, or we can just find out. [01:08:42] Speaker A: Where it is in the run. [01:08:43] Speaker C: Yeah, that's probably the easiest. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Maybe do that. [01:08:46] Speaker C: Johnny, you think we should put some effort into the show? What are you talking about? [01:08:50] Speaker A: We put plenty of effort into the show. [01:08:52] Speaker B: Shows. [01:08:53] Speaker A: Just a lot of effort. [01:08:54] Speaker B: Guys, it's fun to make a show and promote effort. [01:08:58] Speaker A: It's fun, but. [01:08:59] Speaker C: It's fun, but it is work. [01:09:02] Speaker A: It is work you do have to do. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:05] Speaker C: Spawn tears this dude's neck out, and it's just, like, covered in blood. Javi Fernandez. Good artist. [01:09:13] Speaker B: Johnny. Hot take. [01:09:15] Speaker A: Hot take. [01:09:16] Speaker C: How many times do you think I can get away with saying how good of an artist Javi Fernandez is? [01:09:19] Speaker A: This episode, how many pages is this? [01:09:23] Speaker B: Know a couple, two tree. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Couple, two tree. [01:09:27] Speaker C: And then. And then the next page, we get spawn not only dragging the field lord, but also dragging this dude. It's like, now I got another guy. [01:09:35] Speaker B: I got to drag. [01:09:36] Speaker C: Has he already said something about everything? [01:09:37] Speaker B: Eating? No, that's later. [01:09:40] Speaker C: So Spawn's dragging these two bodies behind. [01:09:42] Speaker B: Him, and he's just keeping on. [01:09:45] Speaker C: He's keeping on trucking. Like Arkhrum said, keep on trucking. [01:09:51] Speaker A: He's like a force of nature in this book, just moving forward like a glacier. [01:09:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:56] Speaker C: And then after a little bit, he comes across an army of what look like reanimated suits of armor. [01:10:05] Speaker A: They're like Elden ring or dark souls villains. [01:10:10] Speaker C: Yeah, they look like Sauron at the beginning of Lord of the Rings. When isyodor's heir cuts off his ring. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Throw it, cast it into the fire, destroy it. [01:10:25] Speaker A: So the reason he drags their leader is just to show that the guy that he killed is their leader. He just drags and drops him off. [01:10:31] Speaker B: To be like, look, I killed him. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Don't fuck with me. [01:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:35] Speaker C: As he says, you cut off the head, and the snake dies. And he's like, hey, look, this is the best of you, and I defeated him. [01:10:42] Speaker B: So if you want to attack me. [01:10:45] Speaker C: Go ahead, but it's not going to. [01:10:46] Speaker B: End well for you. [01:10:47] Speaker A: The heart, Osborne. You attack the heart. [01:10:51] Speaker C: And like Moses in the sea, they got. [01:10:59] Speaker B: They got Charlton Heston. [01:11:02] Speaker C: Yeah. They got Charlton Heston out there to be like. [01:11:04] Speaker A: Or Val Kilmer. [01:11:06] Speaker C: Val Kilmer played Moses, Prince of Egypt. [01:11:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:11:09] Speaker C: Prince of Egypt is a fucking great movie. [01:11:13] Speaker B: That was Val Kilmer. Holy shit. Good old Val. It's a great fucking movie, though. It's great. It's great. I saw that. [01:11:21] Speaker A: That was the first movie I ever saw at the AMC 20 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. [01:11:25] Speaker B: Nice. [01:11:26] Speaker C: That was going to catholic school. That was, like, the number one movie that they would do for movie day because it was religious, but it doesn't matter. [01:11:34] Speaker B: It was a great movie. [01:11:35] Speaker A: It was still. [01:11:37] Speaker C: Yeah, they canonically. It's how the Sphinx lost its nose. Roses and ramses were goofing around. [01:11:46] Speaker B: Or was that a. No? [01:11:48] Speaker A: That was. [01:11:49] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Was it Prince of Egypt? [01:11:51] Speaker C: I think it was Prince of Egypt. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:52] Speaker C: Because then they get scolded by King Ramses iI. [01:11:55] Speaker B: 1St, 2nd, whoever it was. Whatever. For knocking that nose. Yeah. [01:12:01] Speaker C: Because they're goofing around while people are building stuff. [01:12:05] Speaker B: Good movie. Okay, good movie. [01:12:07] Speaker C: Have you heard the story of while they were doing Prince of Egypt? If you did a bad job, you. [01:12:12] Speaker B: Got relegated to the other movie. [01:12:16] Speaker C: And the other movie was Shrek. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:12:19] Speaker C: Shrek was just filled with all the people who didn't give a shit enough about Prince of Egypt to be uptight all the time. [01:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:27] Speaker A: Shrek was kind of a dumping. Like, it was long in development and. [01:12:32] Speaker B: They had to restart it because Chris. [01:12:33] Speaker A: Farley had started recording some of the lines. It was originally going to be traditionally animated. Then it was CG had a whole history of trying to get made. [01:12:41] Speaker C: And they actually, Mike Myers, like, rerecorded his stuff because he was like, actually, he should be scottish. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Let me re. [01:12:49] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. He rerecorded the whole thing because he was like, he should be scottish. [01:12:52] Speaker B: Yeah, donkey. Good movie. Shrek's a good movie. Yeah, I like Shrek. I enjoy it. I enjoy it a lot. Somebody once told me, somebody touching my spaghetti. [01:13:07] Speaker C: Oh, boy. [01:13:08] Speaker A: Johnny, the world ain't going to roll spawn. [01:13:10] Speaker B: No, it's not. [01:13:11] Speaker C: He's going to roll right over it. He's going to go to this. [01:13:14] Speaker A: He's going to roll right over it. [01:13:15] Speaker C: He's going to go to this pond that's just filled with faces saying, go back. [01:13:20] Speaker A: The river of souls. I like the little line where he's like, everything in hell has to be given a grandiose name. Yeah, everything's like the river of souls. The watcher of the Keep or something like that. [01:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it's great. [01:13:34] Speaker C: And he's like, which he's trying to ask for directions, and they're just like, no one knows where that is. It's like, well, I guess I'll go this way. [01:13:45] Speaker A: Go this way. Be afraid of giant shadows. [01:13:46] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [01:13:47] Speaker C: So then he's on a spiky mountainside. Look at all these little spiky spikes. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Looks a little icy. [01:13:54] Speaker C: Yeah. And they're grabbing at some ice. [01:13:58] Speaker B: Oh, if we're lucky. [01:14:00] Speaker C: Ice shrimps is bugs, Joni. Ice shrimp is bugs. And if you imagine it's hard to drag this field. Lord, I imagine that this velcro like terrain makes it even harder. [01:14:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it makes it even harder. Right. [01:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Around these spikes, it's just ripping him up. [01:14:19] Speaker C: And then he's like, I'm hoping that something's going to notice this. [01:14:24] Speaker B: And it does, Johnny. [01:14:25] Speaker C: This giant shadow that everything's warned him about, it shows up, and it's a psychic eye shrimp. [01:14:32] Speaker B: Oh, close. No, it's not. [01:14:35] Speaker A: It's the Cloverfield monster. [01:14:37] Speaker C: It's got a absolutely fucked up mouth, if nothing. [01:14:41] Speaker A: I know. It's, like, melting. It's like, oh, man, it's fucked up. He's been through some shit. [01:14:45] Speaker B: It looks like it took, like, a. [01:14:47] Speaker C: Baseball bat to the jaw a couple. [01:14:49] Speaker B: Of times, but, Johnny, I don't know. [01:14:54] Speaker C: If I've said this before, but Javi Fernandez, good artist. [01:14:56] Speaker B: Look at this shit. Holy. [01:15:00] Speaker C: They should put this out as a poster. [01:15:02] Speaker B: It really should. [01:15:05] Speaker A: It's like a metal album. [01:15:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:09] Speaker C: I like how he put a couple. [01:15:11] Speaker B: Of classic McFarlane bats in the background. Yep. Just classics. [01:15:16] Speaker A: Just such a great sense of scale. [01:15:17] Speaker B: And so much going on. It's awesome. [01:15:20] Speaker C: Yeah, a massive sense of scale. [01:15:24] Speaker B: Just like, so good. And then it's like the good, the. [01:15:31] Speaker C: Bad, and the ugly where they're staring at each other. [01:15:33] Speaker B: They're doing about ready to fight. And then as this beast lunges towards. [01:15:41] Speaker C: Al, he just flings the field Lord. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Flings right at all six tons of him. [01:15:47] Speaker C: All six tons. And this big beast just looks at. [01:15:52] Speaker B: It and it's, oh, thanks for the food. [01:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah, he's like, all right. [01:15:57] Speaker B: He's like, my Uber eats is here. [01:15:59] Speaker A: He's like, all right, cool. I didn't have to pay for it. [01:16:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:02] Speaker C: And Al says that he said it earlier. I don't remember where he said it. We skipped over it. But everything in hell feeds off of. [01:16:09] Speaker B: And, you know, this thing's feeding off of this. And so Al's like, well, damn, now. [01:16:15] Speaker C: I'm free to go. [01:16:15] Speaker B: I don't have to worry about it. [01:16:18] Speaker C: So he doesn't have to drag this field lord behind him. But he does have many miles before he sleeps, Johnny. [01:16:25] Speaker A: Oh, many miles. It's like the end of Lord of the Rings. The two towers. Once there was light. That song at the end. [01:16:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Golem song, I believe it's called Gollum. [01:16:41] Speaker A: We get the king Spawn logo. We get some fan art. [01:16:45] Speaker C: We do get some fan art. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Look at this. Someone that I know. Yeah. [01:16:49] Speaker A: Or I met at Spawncon. [01:16:51] Speaker B: I saw their panel. [01:16:53] Speaker A: They're a toy designer and artist, Enrico Bota. [01:17:01] Speaker C: He does a nice little spindly spawn. [01:17:02] Speaker B: Enrico does? Yes. [01:17:04] Speaker A: And I got one of his posters. [01:17:07] Speaker B: I'll throw up a picture of it. [01:17:11] Speaker A: On this episode. [01:17:13] Speaker C: We got a good friend of ours, beard in a mullet with a. They didn't draw that. That's a drawing that they picked up at a convention. [01:17:23] Speaker B: But pretty badass. So it's a badass hobby. [01:17:26] Speaker C: There's a nice big, beefy owl at the top there. [01:17:29] Speaker B: There's a pretty good overt kill. There's a black panther spawn, which is pretty dope. [01:17:40] Speaker C: The very middle one looks like spawn as Eddie from 7th son of a 7th son. The Iron Maiden album that has. [01:17:49] Speaker B: Can I play with madness on it? [01:17:50] Speaker C: And it's just the top half of Eddie. And he's, like, juggling his intestines. [01:17:54] Speaker B: It's wild. [01:17:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Great. [01:17:56] Speaker C: There's a nice, cartoony Jessica. There's a real good classic Al. [01:18:01] Speaker B: And then there's a meatball head spawn. [01:18:03] Speaker A: On a spawn con print. [01:18:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Super dope. [01:18:08] Speaker C: Lots of good fan art. [01:18:09] Speaker A: We should follow that person, too. [01:18:10] Speaker B: Yeah, we should. [01:18:13] Speaker C: Johnny, do you need more spawns? [01:18:14] Speaker B: Universe? [01:18:15] Speaker A: Always. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Oh, good. Well, they got it. No. So just in case you didn't know, it's there. The image classics there. Yep, yep, yep. [01:18:24] Speaker C: Monstrous. Is that back page? [01:18:27] Speaker A: Did you drew a duck as spawn? The spoose is a spawn goose. You gotta look this up. [01:18:33] Speaker C: Waffles is a bunny. [01:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:35] Speaker A: Look at waffles as a bunny. [01:18:36] Speaker B: And there's the spoose. It's the spawn moose. [01:18:41] Speaker A: It's like the fourth or fifth one. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Down from the top, there's a chicken. [01:18:46] Speaker C: There's a chicken. Gunslinger. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Gunslinger. Chicken. Yeah. These are awesome. I love the spoof, though. The small goose is amazing. [01:18:54] Speaker B: The spooce. Man, this fucking rocks. [01:18:58] Speaker C: Is it Godzilla with a cowboy. [01:19:04] Speaker B: Spoose? [01:19:04] Speaker A: He looks so mad, that goose. That's hilarious. [01:19:07] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:19:08] Speaker A: This guy's awesome. We should give them a shout out, too. [01:19:11] Speaker B: They are pretty great. [01:19:12] Speaker A: Do a double shout out. Triple shout out. [01:19:14] Speaker B: A million shout out. [01:19:16] Speaker A: We should probably just add everyone on these now. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Yeah, we should. But we can do that off air. [01:19:21] Speaker A: I never knew I needed that. [01:19:23] Speaker C: That's even better than the spruce goose. [01:19:25] Speaker B: That's King Spawn number 28, Johnny. Good shit. [01:19:28] Speaker A: That's King Spawn 28. Some good shit. [01:19:31] Speaker B: That's some good spawn. [01:19:33] Speaker A: King spawn shit. [01:19:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good. It's good, Johnny. [01:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:39] Speaker C: We got to figure out just how good it is. [01:19:41] Speaker A: Just how good it is. [01:19:43] Speaker B: How good it is. [01:19:43] Speaker C: We got to rate these puppies, don't we? [01:19:45] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies. So, first up today, we had our trip back to the classics of spawn. All the way to 1993 in the time of Jurassic park and Jurassic farts and burps. [01:20:02] Speaker C: And burps and flintstones copyright law and vaguely menacing gangster G men. [01:20:12] Speaker A: I just love this issue. Just a lot going on. But there's a lot of classic spawn stuff. I know there's issues coming up that I like more. So I'm not going to give it a perfect five. So I'm going to give it a 4.5. I'm going to give it a 4.5. [01:20:30] Speaker C: Jurassic farts, man, that's some pretty fart. [01:20:34] Speaker A: Fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart. [01:20:39] Speaker C: I agree, Johnny. This is great. If they were doing like they used to do with albums, this would be like greatest hits, volume one of Spawn. Yeah, it's great to see the todfather doing a whole issue drawing, because we miss seeing the tod father drawing a whole issue. But, you know. [01:21:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. As his friend Rob Liefeld says. [01:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:05] Speaker C: Oh, man. Sexy Terry is. [01:21:09] Speaker A: Smooth Terry. [01:21:10] Speaker C: Always down for a sexy terry. [01:21:15] Speaker B: Granny Blake is off Granny Blake. [01:21:18] Speaker C: We get some good pundit action. [01:21:20] Speaker A: We get Sam and twitch. [01:21:23] Speaker C: We get the Jason Nguyen, the meatball dog. [01:21:27] Speaker A: We get party in the alley. [01:21:30] Speaker C: Oh, man, I miss the unhomed men hijinks. [01:21:34] Speaker B: It's kind of dumb. [01:21:39] Speaker C: It would be very hard to shoehorn it into a contemporary spawn issue, but. [01:21:44] Speaker B: It'S just so much fun. [01:21:45] Speaker A: Yeah, Daisy, like King Spawn one day just ends up in the alley and just starts farting. [01:21:50] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like his Batcave. He doesn't have billions of dollars and fancy computer machines to sit around in and a butler to bring him dinner. He's just got these guys and an alley. So it was a lot of reading. I was very tired at the end of it. Johnny, it's not something you should read. [01:22:11] Speaker B: At the end of the day. [01:22:12] Speaker C: Absolutely not. [01:22:13] Speaker A: No. [01:22:15] Speaker C: I fucking loved it. It was such a good time. [01:22:19] Speaker B: I'm going to give it four tinkle. [01:22:21] Speaker C: Tinkles, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle. [01:22:25] Speaker A: Because I know it did take me two sittings to read because I was like, I'll read this real quick before work. And I got, like, halfway through and was like, oh, shit, I'm only halfway through. [01:22:33] Speaker C: Yeah. I can only imagine the script that Todd McFarland put out for this. It was probably like that big. [01:22:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:22:45] Speaker C: Oh, boy. Thick like an actual book. [01:22:48] Speaker B: It's great for tinkle, tinkles. [01:22:50] Speaker A: And our second issue was King Swan 28, also by the Todd father. [01:22:53] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. [01:22:54] Speaker A: At least writing wise arts by Javi Fernandez. [01:22:56] Speaker C: But this script had to be, like. [01:22:59] Speaker A: Very small, very tiny. It's the two extremes here you have the giant, like tons of words, and. [01:23:05] Speaker B: Then this one's very man. [01:23:07] Speaker A: A few words, but they reflect spawn. [01:23:10] Speaker B: At that time and where he's mentally at because he's established now and doesn't. [01:23:16] Speaker A: Have time to fuck around. In spawn twelve, he still doesn't know how to use his powers correctly. He doesn't know the suit all that well. And in 28, it's interesting juxtaposition to see him as like the most confident. He doesn't even say a fucking word in this issue. He's just so confident that I'm going to carry this dude, get past this dude, and get into hell. [01:23:35] Speaker C: Yeah, he just does glowers. That's all the words he needs is a good stare. [01:23:41] Speaker B: Yeah, but I thought this one was really cool. [01:23:43] Speaker A: I like the sense of scale from Javi Fernandez and it was just a fun little short story. I'm going to give it four cleansing bushes. [01:23:54] Speaker C: Man, I could use a cleansing bush right around now. You know how sometimes it's just like you shower but the soap doesn't feel enough? [01:24:04] Speaker B: You feel like you got to get through a couple of layers of skin? Yeah, I could do with a nice. [01:24:10] Speaker C: Cleansing books exfoliation from a cleansing bush right now. [01:24:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Who couldn't? [01:24:15] Speaker C: Who wouldn't want coming out of this dry air? It's just like, oh yeah, I agree with you for the reserved sort of writing from the Todd father. [01:24:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that was the other thing. [01:24:33] Speaker A: It was very reserved. [01:24:34] Speaker C: Yeah. So Javi Fernandez's art is the exact opposite of so in this issue, Tod McFarlane's the minimalist and Javi Fernandez is the maximalist. There's a lot resting on Javi Fernandez's shoulders in this and he does not disappoint. The Todd father's writing is great in this. This is a good example that I would throw at people to be like the Tod father is a good writer. [01:25:01] Speaker B: This is not his first thing. [01:25:03] Speaker C: It's just so good. It's well paced. The effort that Al is having to go through is just so clear. [01:25:13] Speaker B: And it's a good little story, like you said. Yeah, I liked a lot. [01:25:18] Speaker C: I liked a lot. [01:25:19] Speaker B: I'm going to give it four of. [01:25:22] Speaker C: These animated suits of armor. Watching Al leave their leaderboard. [01:25:31] Speaker A: Alden ring enemies. [01:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah, because they're all very imposing, but. [01:25:35] Speaker C: They'Re just like not even trying to. [01:25:40] Speaker A: He killed their boss, David. He cut off the head of, if. [01:25:42] Speaker B: You cut off the head, you kill everybody. Yeah, or whatever. [01:25:48] Speaker C: You cut off the head of the. [01:25:49] Speaker B: Snake, you cut off the head of. [01:25:50] Speaker A: The snake and the rest of the. [01:25:51] Speaker B: Snake is just a body. Yeah. [01:25:55] Speaker C: It's about to become some shoes. [01:25:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:58] Speaker B: Good. Thanks. Shoe. [01:25:59] Speaker C: It's a good one. It's a good one. I like those. [01:26:01] Speaker B: I like those a lot, Johnny. They were real good. [01:26:04] Speaker A: Well, what's really good about 28 is we had a lot of people we could shout out. [01:26:07] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. [01:26:09] Speaker A: Let's do a double shout out. [01:26:10] Speaker B: Let's do it. Okay, we're going to give a shout. [01:26:12] Speaker A: Out to enrico boda. [01:26:15] Speaker B: And waffles is a bunny. [01:26:18] Speaker C: Is a bunny. [01:26:19] Speaker B: Yes. [01:26:20] Speaker A: So make sure to give them a follow up. On these spawning grounds. [01:26:23] Speaker C: Both two very good options. [01:26:25] Speaker A: Very talented. Kind of whimsical. I actually asked him a question, his panel, after I got his poster. I was like, what? I just said, I really appreciated the whimsy of it. And he said, thanks. And he does think spawn does have. While it doesn't have it all the time. There is, like, a sense of whimsy to spawn. [01:26:41] Speaker B: And you just got to look for it. [01:26:42] Speaker A: And it does have some of that. It was just a fun little conversation. [01:26:47] Speaker C: The whimsy usually shows up in the form of jurassic farts. [01:26:51] Speaker B: Right. [01:26:52] Speaker A: But sometimes you can get it in a spawn. [01:26:55] Speaker C: Speaking of whimsy, that waffles is a bunny artist. [01:26:58] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:26:59] Speaker C: So whimsical. So whimsical. [01:27:01] Speaker B: It's great. It's spoof. [01:27:02] Speaker A: The spawn goose. You got to go online and check out the spoose. [01:27:05] Speaker B: Got to do it. Got to do it. Give the spoof some love. [01:27:10] Speaker C: Also, while you're giving people some love. [01:27:11] Speaker B: Johnny, we need to let the people. [01:27:13] Speaker C: Know that Brian does our music. Brian underscore voyals. Underscore 27. [01:27:18] Speaker B: He's great at it. It's beautiful music. I love listening to it. And we hope you do, too. [01:27:23] Speaker A: And also, while you're there, make sure to give us a follow. Regarding spawn pod. We're posting fun stuff about the episodes pickups. We'll be doing some live stuff from challengers next week. [01:27:37] Speaker C: This is going to come out, like, two weeks after that. [01:27:40] Speaker A: Never mind. But we will. [01:27:45] Speaker C: Yeah, we will. Absolutely. We're making short videos about things we like. I've been a little behind on my quick recaps. [01:27:52] Speaker A: Me, too. [01:27:53] Speaker C: Of stuff. But it's been a busy, busy couple of months, y'all. [01:27:58] Speaker A: We've both been very busy. [01:27:59] Speaker C: We're putting effort into this. Where we think it's best suited. And we'll get to the miscellaneous as we go along. We love doing this, so it's not. [01:28:11] Speaker B: Going away anytime soon. Oh, no, not at all. [01:28:14] Speaker A: Sometimes if we fall down the social media stuff, it's just because we have lives. Not in the way of, like, you're a nerd. We have lives to get in the way sometimes. I definitely don't have a life. [01:28:26] Speaker B: I don't have a life either. [01:28:28] Speaker C: I like to have a job. [01:28:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:31] Speaker C: I like to come home and not have to put on pants again for. [01:28:34] Speaker B: A couple of days if I can. [01:28:36] Speaker A: That's the best goal. [01:28:37] Speaker C: It's amazing. [01:28:38] Speaker B: It's amazing. [01:28:40] Speaker C: If you want to reach out to us, do some chitchatting, maybe send us a letter. Allah spawning grounds like the old spawning ground 93 log thing. Johnny will read your message on the air, even if it's mean. [01:28:57] Speaker B: Even if it's mean. [01:28:58] Speaker C: If that is what is keeping you from writing a letter, you can always put, please don't read this on air. Yeah, of course. [01:29:04] Speaker B: That's fine. [01:29:06] Speaker C: We don't want to make you not. [01:29:07] Speaker B: Do things because of something we're doing. [01:29:12] Speaker C: Please write us a letter. If you don't want us to read it on air, say, don't read it on air. [01:29:16] Speaker B: That's fine. We can do that. But that's regarding [email protected]. Send us letters. [01:29:23] Speaker C: Send us your address and we'll send you some stickers. [01:29:25] Speaker A: And I always like to ask a question to spur some emails, but I'm just wondering, where were you in 1993? Were you watching Jurassic park? Were you a baby? Were you a teenager? Just curious, like, what were you up to around the time this issue came out? So let us know. [01:29:42] Speaker B: What were you doing, David? [01:29:45] Speaker C: What is that? Is that kindergarten? [01:29:46] Speaker A: What were you doing when you were 519 93? [01:29:54] Speaker C: A story about David is a terrible child. That would have probably been when I was in kindergarten. And there was one day where it was show and tell, and our show and tell was, you got to bring something. And then everything sat on a table, and everybody was allowed to play with everybody else's toy throughout the day. And one of my best friends had. [01:30:15] Speaker B: One of those transforming turtles, right? [01:30:18] Speaker C: The ones that go from a regular turtle to a ninja turtle. And I couldn't get it to work, so I threw it on the ground and was not allowed to touch the show and tell table for the rest of the year. [01:30:30] Speaker B: Damn, I was a turd. I was a turd of a child. [01:30:35] Speaker A: You're a turtle turd. [01:30:36] Speaker C: That was also the year where it was the first time I saw my dad without a beard. And he came to pick me up, and I was like, I'm not getting in the car with you. That might be my dad's car, but I was told never to go home with strangers, and he was very upset. [01:30:49] Speaker A: Oh, no. [01:30:50] Speaker C: Get in this car. And I was like, I don't know who you are. [01:30:57] Speaker A: Hilarious. I was obsessed with Jurassic Park. [01:31:02] Speaker C: I think that makes that track. [01:31:04] Speaker A: I had a lot of the toys. That's what I was doing in 93. [01:31:07] Speaker B: Nice. [01:31:08] Speaker C: I remember I got some of the dino damage action figures for the lost world. So the lost world is when I got into it, because that was one of the first movies I remember seeing in theater. [01:31:19] Speaker B: Well, yeah, let us know. [01:31:21] Speaker A: Well, we got to read some more spawn next week. [01:31:24] Speaker C: Oh, do we have to? [01:31:28] Speaker A: We get to. That's what I mean. [01:31:32] Speaker C: No, it's fine, Johnny. I'm just being a stinker. [01:31:35] Speaker A: We're back on these classics, so we get the part two of this, revealing of Chappell as the first canon killer of Al Simmons. And then they kill Canon and make it Jessica priest, which we all know I'm for. I'm for it. [01:31:50] Speaker C: We're pro Jessica priest. [01:31:51] Speaker A: Pro priest. [01:31:53] Speaker C: Be careful where you say that. [01:31:55] Speaker A: We're pro priest. That's a long way of saying next week is Spawn. Issue 13 is our classic. [01:32:03] Speaker B: Yes. [01:32:04] Speaker A: And then we get a modern classic for our modern issue, because we get scorched 24 by John Layman, which is excellent stuff. [01:32:11] Speaker C: Speaking of Jessica Priest. [01:32:14] Speaker B: Yeah? [01:32:15] Speaker A: Is that the one with the bar. [01:32:16] Speaker B: Or is the one after the bar is the one with the bar? [01:32:19] Speaker C: I think this is the one with the bar. [01:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. [01:32:20] Speaker A: This is a good one. [01:32:22] Speaker B: Speaking of Jessica Priest, this is one that we've talked. [01:32:26] Speaker C: We've been teasing for a while because. [01:32:28] Speaker B: It'S fucking good shit, y'all. It's fucking shit. [01:32:31] Speaker A: We read it the other night. It's awesome. [01:32:32] Speaker B: Nice. [01:32:33] Speaker A: I read the two previous. [01:32:36] Speaker B: Before the new scorch just to nice, keep myself acquainted. [01:32:39] Speaker A: But, yeah, a lot of fun stuff going on. [01:32:41] Speaker B: Scorched right now and can't wait to check it out. Yeah, it's going to be great. So read. Read some spawn. Spawn 330, read some spawn. [01:32:51] Speaker C: Spawn 13, scorch 24, come back. [01:32:53] Speaker B: Listen to us talk of it in a week. I mean, we'll do it. Yeah. So just. [01:32:58] Speaker C: If you have any questions while you're reading the issues, send us questions about them. It'll be a couple of episodes after that, we answer it. [01:33:05] Speaker B: But tell us. [01:33:08] Speaker C: Tell us about how awesome John Layman's run is on Spicorch so far. [01:33:11] Speaker B: It's fucking great. [01:33:12] Speaker C: So don't forget to like us subscribe to know, tell your friends and family about us. If you get a sticker, you can hand them out to random people on. [01:33:20] Speaker B: The street and be like, if you. [01:33:22] Speaker C: Enjoy what we're doing, let more people know. [01:33:24] Speaker B: Because, I mean, if any of you. [01:33:27] Speaker C: Get even a quarter of the amount of enjoyment from this show that I get from it when I listen back. [01:33:32] Speaker B: To it, you're having a good time, then. You're having a good. [01:33:35] Speaker C: Like, every time I'm having to do the editing, I'm like, johnny cracked up. It's like, I can't wait to hear it. [01:33:43] Speaker B: That's what we want to hear. Yeah. Awesome. [01:33:49] Speaker C: We got our books to read for next week, Johnny. [01:33:51] Speaker B: We got our friends that we've shouted out. I can't think of anything else to say, johnny, except for may the scorched be with you. [01:34:01] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:34:02] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. You bet. [01:34:04] Speaker A: Good thing we're not recording together. So I'm about to unleash a jurassic fart of my own. [01:34:08] Speaker C: Maybe crack that door first so you don't accidentally suffocate yourself. [01:34:12] Speaker A: Oh, this thing's 65 million years in the making. Gotta love a fart joke.