Episode 96

July 19, 2024

01:28:28

Episode 96 - Spawn 23 and Scorched 28

Episode 96 - Spawn 23 and Scorched 28
RE:Spawn
Episode 96 - Spawn 23 and Scorched 28

Jul 19 2024 | 01:28:28

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The Malebolge beckens you to c'mon in and have a good time!

This week the boys are talkin' a lot about our good buddy, Overtkill! So Much Overkill! First, TOdd McFarlane brings you a talk of Overtkill beatin' up on Terry Fitzgerald! How rude! Then, Jon Layman and Stephen Segovia follow that classic up with a tale about Jason Wynn doing nepharious things with a beaten and battered Signor Rocca!

Gerard is a cool guy we like on insta, and he's got some dope art in the Spawning Grounds of Scorched 28! Be sure to spread some love his way! (https://www.instagram.com/antigurt/)

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May the Scorched be with you!

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Crap. That means the rest of his story is probably true. Twitch. Which means there just may be a multi agency manhunt going on. Just my luck, sir. Yeah. Yeah. [00:00:11] Speaker B: I'm thinking we can't afford that much time. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Good evening and welcome to the Mal bulge. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best spawn podcast. I am your co host, Jon Fisher. [00:00:53] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And, Johnny, it looks like we've got a couple of co hosts there on your shirt, too, of the alien variety. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Oh, I'm wearing an et shirt. I got et and Elliot. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:01:07] Speaker A: I laughed there. Cause I. Oh, go ahead. [00:01:09] Speaker B: I was about to say. Nothing says summer like, Et. Go. [00:01:12] Speaker A: No, it's good. Well, speaking of ET, I watched it when I had Covid, like, two times ago. And guess what? I just had Covid for my third time. So that's why I didn't, like, scream good evening. Cause I didn't wanna. My throat's a little raw still from coughing and stuff. [00:01:26] Speaker B: So could you imagine that you just turn on a podcast, and the intro starts, and then it's just somebody hacking for four minutes? [00:01:34] Speaker A: That's what it usually is on this. [00:01:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Because we. We don't. We don't believe in editing. We gotta leave it all in there for Fidel. [00:01:40] Speaker A: Oh, no. We're just hacks. That's what I meant. I got confused. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Oh, man. That's a. That's what happens. The english language. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Don't tell anyone. Yeah, don't tell anyone we're hacks. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Who's gonna. Who's gonna. Somebody's gonna be like, what? They aren't spawn experts. They aren't in the pocket of big Spawn. Come on, Joey. We're in the pocket of. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Oh, we're in the pocket of big spawn. I wish we were. Yeah. [00:02:04] Speaker B: I mean, I could have a big spawn action figure in my pocket, but that's not. That's not the same thing. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Speaking of big spawn. Well, that was so cool. That King Spawny messaged us and showed us that. That Thomas Healy put the spawn logo over that retirement center. [00:02:21] Speaker B: Nice. Nice. Yeah. [00:02:22] Speaker A: Cause the retirement center makes it pretty funny. Cause it's like spawns. He said. It's like spawns going to malvulsion. [00:02:27] Speaker B: This is in reference to those. Those photos of the cosplay photo shoot in the back of. Was it a king spawn? [00:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it was the back of a king spawn. And we had 30 or 31. [00:02:38] Speaker B: We had been like, we think that's. We think that's. We think that's that's. That's our buddy. And turns out, yes, it was him and the original photo. Much less, much less spawn flavored. [00:02:52] Speaker A: Yes, it was a much bigger improvement. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Although the equal amounts of green goop. Cause old people are all. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Cause it's a retirement center covered in green goo. No, I was covered in green goop the last few days, so I just sat around and watched a bunch of movies. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Did you watch anything about green goop? Did you watch flubber? [00:03:14] Speaker A: There's a lot of green goop in Kong. Xdev, Godzilla x Kong. The new empire. [00:03:19] Speaker B: I need to watch that. I need to get up on the american Godzilla since 2016. Cause the last american Godzilla I saw was the Bryan Cranston one. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Oh, really? You haven't seen Godzilla versus Kong? [00:03:33] Speaker B: Mm mm. No. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Those two are good. Just watch those two. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Okay. Just the Godzilla Kong crossovers. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah. You can watch king of monsters too. It's pretty good. [00:03:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:03:42] Speaker A: But I think those two are, like. They kind of are very much in the spirit of some of the old ones with the zaniness. You'll really like this new one. [00:03:52] Speaker B: Nice. Nice. [00:03:52] Speaker A: I don't want to spoil anything. Yeah, but you would like it. I think you should watch at least those two. And then if you want to venture further into it, you can skip skull island. You can skip king of the monsters. Really? [00:04:04] Speaker B: We'll see. We'll see. Maybe one of these days I'll get. I'll get. But I'll need a Godzilla fix that Pluto tv will only be showing rebirth of Mothra two and three. And I'll be like, ah. I need not Mothra right now. [00:04:18] Speaker A: Are those ones from the nineties? [00:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah, those are the ones with the kids. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that one's. You remember the end of one where it sucks up all the kids? Have you seen that one? It, like, sucks them into the sky. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Doesn't it, like, suck them out of a building first too? Like, they go flying down a high hallway. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah. The first time earlier in the movie. Yeah, they get sucked up a couple times, man. There's also a part in that where, like, I think it was Ghidorah. Isn't he in that one? And, like, king Ghidorah eats a t rex and it feels like it's like a big. I don't know what year it was made, but it feels like it's a fuck you to Jurassic Park. [00:04:53] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know. [00:04:55] Speaker A: They're definitely made in the nineties. [00:04:56] Speaker B: I honestly haven't sat down to watch all of the rebirth of mothras. They're just, like, out in the background, and I'll look over every once in a while. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I watched a good part of that one one time, and then I've, like. It was on actually, the other day when I was. I put on. [00:05:09] Speaker B: They're on all the time, Jenny. That's the beauty. [00:05:11] Speaker A: That's why I like to read to the Godzilla channel. [00:05:13] Speaker B: That's the beauty of it. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Well, what were you reading? We're speaking of beautiful things. If we're speaking of beautiful things, what was I reading? [00:05:21] Speaker B: Yeah, what were you reading? What beautiful things were you reading? [00:05:23] Speaker A: I was reading some spawns. [00:05:24] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:05:26] Speaker A: Which is what we're doing here today. We got two issues to spawn for you. A classic. We're back to our regular format. A classic and a new one. We were a little bit behind, so we caught up a little bit on some of the new ones. But now we're only a few months behind, which is where we like it. [00:05:39] Speaker B: We will probably end up behind again, just the way we probably have to. [00:05:43] Speaker A: Do another catch up. It's fun to do the catch ups. [00:05:45] Speaker B: The last two weeks have seen us get, what, eight spawnt issues in the last two weeks? Or am I conflating the last three weeks? [00:05:54] Speaker A: I didn't know. I think you're right, because I didn't pick up my books yet last week because I was sick with COVID But it was like, a lot of swan. [00:06:01] Speaker B: Oh, man. This. There's a lot. There's a lot. I guess that means I better get to cover in it. [00:06:08] Speaker A: I know. I wish I would have had those, man. I couldn't read those. But I'll get them tomorrow because I'm allowed to go back into the world tomorrow with a mask. Of course. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Mask. Yes. Nice. Excellent. Excellent. So you can. You can go back with the mask and you can spend your. Speaking of green goop. The mask. [00:06:25] Speaker A: The mask. I'm gonna wear the mask. [00:06:28] Speaker B: You're gonna wear the mask and you're just gonna be, like, smoking and you're gonna scarier. [00:06:34] Speaker A: Like dark horse mask. Like, from the comics, he was, like, scarier and more violent. [00:06:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, those nineties dark horse comics. Just so dark. Like. Yeah, like Grindel. Anything. Fucking grindel. Isn't that. I think there was actually a mask crossover with Mars attacks once. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Really? I know they ended up crossing over the mask a lot. Yeah, but he never crossed over with Spawn. Another man in a mask that uses green goop a lot. [00:07:03] Speaker B: It would. It would go perfect for him just going, hey, buddy, you're smoking. [00:07:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause he is. He's straight out of hell. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:12] Speaker A: No, we're reading two issues from Spawn's universe. We gotta get. We gotta let him know what we're reading. David, we keep almost getting to it. [00:07:17] Speaker B: We can't just sit here and rehash nineties pop culture. Come on. [00:07:22] Speaker A: That's what we do. But no, we're reading Spawn 23 all the way back from. Speaking of nineties pop culture of August 1994. So almost exactly 20 years ago. Man. [00:07:34] Speaker B: I wonder. Wow, man. [00:07:36] Speaker A: 30 years ago. Not 20. I said 20, Johnny. 30. Yeah, I know. [00:07:43] Speaker B: We. It's hard to think. I saw. I saw somebody post on the Internet today. There's absolutely no way this is the same sun we used to run around under as kids. And it makes me wonder if it was as hot in August of 1994 as it is nowadays. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Probably nothing. [00:08:01] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:08:01] Speaker A: I guess only there was a database of infinite knowledge. We could find that out. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Hey, that's my line. [00:08:07] Speaker A: So we're reading spawn 23, and then we're also reading scorched 28 from April 2024. And they actually have some similarities. There's some shared characters. [00:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah. When I was going through it again, I was like, oh, hey, look at this. Look at this. [00:08:22] Speaker A: This is great synergy. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:27] Speaker A: Jason wins still. Or people are still sending overkill after people. And Jason wins still around. [00:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, man. [00:08:33] Speaker A: As much as things change, they say the same. [00:08:35] Speaker B: That's. I think that's the. That's the old saw, isn't it? The more things change. Oh, sorry. Speaking of hacking. Oh, it's me that's doing it. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Uh oh. Did I give you Covid over the mic? [00:08:50] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, no. Steady. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Don't worry, mom. We're not in the same room. I'm where I should be. I'm just alone in a closet, like you should be when you have Covid. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Oh, man. Um, sadly, yes. Yes, you should. You should become a recluse when you have Covid. [00:09:09] Speaker A: So, David, I'm lucky enough to have a floppy of this issue 23 that we're covering first. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Nice. I am also lucky enough to. To have a floppy of issue 23 that. We're excited. [00:09:21] Speaker A: I got mine, actually, I think I have two copies. Cause I accidentally bought a second one. Because I didn't think. I thought I didn't have it. But I got mine at both vintage stock and Tulsa when I was on vacation there for, as the sticker said on the sleeve, 399. And then I think I got another copy accidentally at Comic Con this year. C two, e, two. I always call it Comic Con. C, two, e, two. [00:09:45] Speaker B: It is a comic con. So you're never. But, yeah. If we got any pedants. If there are any pedants out there on the Internet, Johnny, we gotta watch ourselves. [00:09:55] Speaker A: I know. C, two, e, two. I bought more of them. [00:09:58] Speaker B: I mean, I think we actually got called out for that during the live show where the lady was like, what? You changed the name of the show? Yeah, I was just gonna digital this. Cause I have the. It was in that humble bundle that I got way back when. But then I decided to hit up the back. The back issue bins at my comic shop and decided to buy all of the three and four dollar back issues of spawn to help fuel my free little library giveaways. And this just happened to be a three dollar issue of spawn. Oh, no, it was a dollar four issue. I lied. [00:10:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:35] Speaker B: So, hell, yeah. [00:10:37] Speaker A: So that's a great advantage, because that means we get to cover all the back matter and the letters. And I don't just have to describe. [00:10:42] Speaker B: It to you in reference to a conversation we had with somebody else not too long ago. I'm tempted to just make a scan of all the letter pages and sort of put them together as a. As a gift for this particular individual. And just be like, here you go. All the letter pages. Yeah, that would be great. [00:11:02] Speaker A: They are. They are interesting. It takes just as long to read those as it does the entire comic. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Sometimes longer, sometimes longer. [00:11:10] Speaker A: But we always start with the covers. So here we have 23, and we've got a cover by Todd McFarlane. [00:11:16] Speaker B: Hmm. And it is. It's a badass. It's a badass cover. This is. This just like. It's the epitome of spawn cover, Johnny. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yep. It's spawn making, like, a Dracula type pose. Kind of. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:32] Speaker A: He's got his shoelace in his meatball. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Head, and his eyes are glowing in multiple different directions. It's just good. It's just good. He's got an invisible orange in one hand. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, he looks like a dracula. [00:11:48] Speaker B: He's got impossible cape and chain action going on everywhere. [00:11:54] Speaker A: But as we know from reading blood feud, he's not a vampire. Yeah, not full vampire. [00:12:00] Speaker B: Full vampire. [00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it's a great cover. And there is the only alternate cover for this, according to cover price. Also of note, we got a great deal. Cause it says it's worth $5. [00:12:10] Speaker B: Woo. Man. We're both making up, like, bandits. [00:12:15] Speaker A: But there's a newsstand copy that has, like. That's a little different. That has the ISBN code on it. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Okay. That has, like, the. [00:12:22] Speaker A: Yeah. So this is the comic book store copy. And then there's a newsstand copy of. That's the only alternate cover. [00:12:27] Speaker B: So direct edition. I think they typically refer to it as. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Yes. Direct. Direct. You're right. [00:12:32] Speaker B: That used to confuse the shit out of me. I would be like, what is going on with this? But, you know, it makes sense now. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I get it. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Distribution used to be different. You used to be able to go to the grocery store and beg your mom to pick up this hell comic while you're waiting to pay for Cheerios and shit. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah, they had it at, like, walgreens and shit. That's where I get a lot of my Star wars comics. [00:12:53] Speaker B: We had, we went to homeland in Oklahoma, was the grocery store. We had Homeland. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Oh, Homeland. We had a homeland. They're comics there, too. [00:13:00] Speaker B: And they always had, they always had a. One of those little spinning displays filled with the dark horse Star wars comics. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Yep. Those were popular. Those were indeed. Star wars is big. In the nineties. It came back. [00:13:14] Speaker B: Hey, guess what? Everything old is new again, always. [00:13:19] Speaker A: So, yeah, those are your two covers. It says Quinnipe on the COVID as well. I'm assuming that's Quinn supply from all the optics that probably do the colors for this cover, I'm assuming. [00:13:28] Speaker B: I would say that's a safe assumption. [00:13:30] Speaker A: But again, it's just an assumption. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Unless it's Quinn, as in Doctor medicine will old timey. That would make more sense on a gunslinger spawn, but, you know, she's the. [00:13:43] Speaker A: One that sutured him up. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Maybe. How awesome would it be if in that deadly tales of the gunslinger, we got a gunslinger spawned Doctor Quinn medicine woman crossover? [00:13:54] Speaker A: Wasn't that, like, a vaguely christian show? [00:13:58] Speaker B: That's part of what would make it so excellent. [00:14:02] Speaker A: Do it. [00:14:03] Speaker B: I think it was, like, half a step less christian than 7th heaven, but still very overt. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I consider even Walker, Texas Ranger a vaguely christian show, man. [00:14:14] Speaker B: Nineties. The way nineties pop culture captured, you know, things in the zeitgeist. It's kind of. Kind of crazy. [00:14:23] Speaker A: So we got the credits here. Crack it open. It's the hunt part three, story and art by Todd McFarlane. Special thanks to Greg Capullo, copy editor and letters, Tom Orczykowski. Color, Steve Olaf, and all the optics dedicated to the memory of Don Thompson. This is actually a little call out in the letters to him. [00:14:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I was about to say there's a little who this guy is. That's, that's nice. I wish they had done that for, like, all of them. For everyone that has a dedication to be like, this is. This is who this person is. [00:15:00] Speaker A: But we don't really know what he did. It doesn't say, but he was a true fan. Every sense of the word. [00:15:07] Speaker B: I guess. I guess he was. [00:15:09] Speaker A: He probably worked in the offices or distribution or something, I imagine. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm assuming he was just, like, part of the administration aspect that got the stuff going. [00:15:19] Speaker A: He was like a Superfan. [00:15:20] Speaker B: He, like, did, like, oh, so he was just. Just a fan. Just. Just a fan. [00:15:25] Speaker A: He wrote the comic book. Book and, like, oh, yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker B: Oh, shit. All right, so basically, he walked so that way we could talk about running on the Internet. [00:15:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. He was, like a superfan that ran a bunch of fanzines and just kept the hype alive. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. That's so what you're, what I'm hearing is that the spawn community has always been way more wholesome than it ever had any rights to be. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah, sounds like it. [00:15:53] Speaker B: Spawn community fucking rocks, Johnny. I don't know if we've discussed that in a while, Johnny. I like that this issue starts with a dramatis personae. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Yes. It just has, like, a wall of all your people with headshots and just, like, explains who they are. It's like a restart. [00:16:12] Speaker B: It's wonderful. It's like a play, so that way you can cast all of the characters without having to read through it to write down who all they are. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah, but it highlights Jason wins spawn. In my version, it highlights Tony Twist. [00:16:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So since I read this first, in the digital version, it does actually say whatever his name was. And then, like, knowing that the name was changed, if you. You have to, like, look everywhere that twist is. And you can notice, like, a subtle shift in the lettering for where they had to place it. So I would say it's almost. It's unnoticeable if you don't know to look for it. But if you know to look for it, you can see it. Yeah, but you could definitely see that, like, the names that they chose had to fit the. Fit the space available, right? [00:17:02] Speaker A: Yeah. This highlights Jason Nguyen. Yeah, basically what someone, I just said spawn, tony Twist, wanda Blake, Sam Burke, and twitch Williams. And it just gives you a little paragraph on each of them. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Sam looks so fucking pissed right there. He kind of looks a little bit like Ursula. [00:17:19] Speaker A: He does. [00:17:22] Speaker B: He's gonna start singing to us about your poor unfortunate souls. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's interesting they did that, I guess. Cause it's, like, kind of a convoluted thing. What's going on now. Yeah, but that's kind of cool. They do that also. [00:17:33] Speaker B: This is what, like, rounding out the second year of comics. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Every once in a while, just be like, hey, just in case you only jumped on recently because of, like, Grant Morrison or whatnot, here's kind of the lay of the land. [00:17:49] Speaker A: And also, back in the day, they didn't have as many ways to get access to them. So, like, if you miss it, you just missed it. [00:17:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Like that guy in the letter says, like, I love spawn, except for issues two through eight, I don't have. [00:17:59] Speaker B: And now it's like, well, why don't you just go get them? But then it was like you had to physically find somebody who had them. How did we exist in the world before technology, Johnny? [00:18:09] Speaker A: I know. We were probably a lot happier. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Probably. [00:18:11] Speaker A: Cause you didn't have the weight of everything. You had to read. You just read what was in front of you. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And you didn't waste time trying to find a movie to watch on one of six streaming services until you fall asleep without having watched anything. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Right. Cause you went to the video store and you think you wanna spend all night there. So you had to make a decision and you, like, had to watch it. So it was like, now it's like, well, I don't have to make a decision. I could look as long as I want. [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah. And then you also had the competition with other movie people where it's like, if this is the only one they have left, so if I don't get it, it's taken off the table for me. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:18:47] Speaker B: But, yeah, so after we get introduced to all the players, we just go right back into the action where we left off in the previous issue. Johnny. [00:18:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Overkills looming over. Very scared looking Terry. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Oh, man, I would be scared, too. Look at this. Look at this guy. He's a beast. [00:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Basically, everyone's descending upon poor terry. The CIA, the mafia, the FBI, the police. The police spawn. Yeah, everybody. [00:19:13] Speaker B: They are. They all have determined that he is the root of their problems. [00:19:17] Speaker A: He's got a five star wanted level on GTA. [00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. And each of these people have their own special way of dealing with annoyances. Jenny. [00:19:27] Speaker A: Yes. And the mafia sent overt kill. Overt kill. Overt kill. Don't say overkill. He gets pissed. [00:19:35] Speaker B: We have to say overkill. [00:19:38] Speaker A: Oh, no, hush. He's gonna hear you. [00:19:42] Speaker B: I'd believe he has super hearing. He's absolutely frightening in this two page spread. Johnny. I can't stop. I can't stop looking at him. [00:19:49] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. Tom McFarlane's really good at that kind of menacing in the shadows face. He uses it a lot. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Without, like, grim. With that grin. Yeah, a grim grin. [00:19:58] Speaker B: He's a grim grinning guy. [00:20:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:04] Speaker B: And so Terry's. Terry's down there, you know, trying to defend himself with just a little. Just a little semi automatic pistol peashooter. Yeah. And then overt kill. Says, if you want to be a hero, then act like it. I came to destroy a man, not some cowering dog. [00:20:22] Speaker A: Cause they've told him that this is the guy who beat him last time in issue seven, our favorite issue, they talk about poopy buttholes and farts and runny poop. [00:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah. That's just how they've changed sort of his wiring and his brains to make him think that Terry Fitzgerald is Spawndez. [00:20:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:20:44] Speaker B: He's just. He's just slapping Terry around. Look at this. This. [00:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I don't know how he survives this. [00:20:50] Speaker B: Like, this smet in the spook. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Spook, yeah. Good. Shout out to Tom o there. [00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And we do get a c issues six and seven with the scatological stylings of overt kill. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Yes. [00:21:08] Speaker B: And then we got one of the denizens of Ratt alley getting scared out of her, like, her little hiding space behind a dumpster. And she's just like, I gotta find Al. [00:21:21] Speaker A: You gotta tell Al. [00:21:24] Speaker B: And then we cut to not far. [00:21:27] Speaker A: Away, how pathetic you've become. Who's this? Kylo Ren. He says, look how old you've become. I mean, there's more like, look how old you've become. I can't do it. Look how old. You got that electronic singe to it. [00:21:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Look how old you've become. Depending on who edits this episode, there might be a little drop. So that way we have an actual. [00:21:54] Speaker A: There you go. It depends. I'm lazy with the drops. [00:21:58] Speaker B: I should probably not do as many as I do. But sometimes. Sometimes we say something and I can't move past it in the episode until I've found exactly what I'm looking for, which is probably why it takes me, you know, a whole week to do it. [00:22:14] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. Damn. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, this is. This is my creative outlet. I gotta. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Keeps me sane if. If I could be considered sane. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Well, I hope you edit this episode, because I love hearing Kylo Ren talk. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Let me tell you, Star wars quotes the easiest fucking thing to find on YouTube. Oh, yeah. It's when I say something stupid about, like, some misremembered thing from Star Trek in the nineties and an episode nobody liked. That's the hard shit to find, Boyden. Yeah, we got, uh, Sam and Twitch talking to spawn, and Twitch has, speaking. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Of hard to find, they've been looking for him. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:00] Speaker A: And he's. He's basically like, yo, I don't care. [00:23:05] Speaker B: He's like, I got. I got shit to do. Uh, you guys, I'm just gonna go do that. And Sam's like, the fuck you are. [00:23:11] Speaker A: He calls him a friggin freak. [00:23:13] Speaker B: Friggin freak. Then we get, no, you listen. That you is really great, Tomo. Just pulling it out. [00:23:20] Speaker A: I love how he's yelling at them. And in that, he goes, and I can't find my weapons in this garbage. Cause remember last time? That's how the cliffhanger was. He was looking for his gun. He can't find it. [00:23:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he was like, where is it? I thought I put it under this pile of rotting apple cores. No, it's under this one. It's under the dirty diapers. Oh, no. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Oh, no. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Then he just starts walking away and twitch like, what do you think? Sam says? Ain't no way he's walking away from us now. And then they shoot him. Spahn comes back with the most devastating insult that Todd McFarlane can think up. Johnny. [00:24:00] Speaker A: Go screw yourself, fat man. [00:24:05] Speaker B: He's looking for his cannons, Johnny. He's looking for his cannons. See? Issue seven cannons. His. His futuristic military weapons. [00:24:15] Speaker A: And then the denizen of rat alley runs over her. We find her name's Emily. And she's like, al, it's happening. The big, shiny guy, as big as a house, and he's beat the shadow of some guy. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:29] Speaker A: And Al's like, uh oh, damn it. [00:24:31] Speaker B: No spawn bolts. [00:24:34] Speaker A: So twitch is like, all right, I'm gonna shoot him. And it just. You get some tactics. Talk about twitch. Even the movement of the cape and the erratic movement of spawn, he can hit him right in the kneecap. [00:24:45] Speaker B: It's like we're playing the witcher, and we've taken one of those, whatever potions they are, and it's like everything is kind of what happened in here. [00:24:55] Speaker A: Everything slows down, right? [00:24:57] Speaker B: That happens in that, right? I've never played. [00:24:59] Speaker A: I never played the witcher. Makes me think of vats and fallout in the game. Fallout, you can, like, freeze time and aim at specific parts of the body. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:25:07] Speaker A: And, like, they'll usually explode fantastically. So, like, it kind of reminds me of that. [00:25:12] Speaker B: I should have just gone for the low hanging fruit of bullet time. Matrix reference that we both know something about, instead of trying to come up with something that I have no idea about. [00:25:25] Speaker A: But bullet time. This isn't exactly bullet time. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Well, there's a bullet being shut. [00:25:30] Speaker A: I know, but you know what I mean. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:25:32] Speaker A: It's definitely more like vats from fallout. People will know what I'm talking about. Even though you're video game illiterate. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, what are you gonna do about it, huh? [00:25:41] Speaker A: From what I know, you know the grunts from Halo. I think that's it. [00:25:45] Speaker B: He's everywhere. Halo, Tetris, metal slug. [00:25:53] Speaker A: The first Smash brothers. You've talked about that before. [00:25:55] Speaker B: The first Smash brothers. No, it was Smash bros. Wii. Is that the first one? Okay, wasn't the one on 64? [00:26:03] Speaker A: There's 64 GameCube and then Wii. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Mario Kart six or Mario Kart Wii. Got really nice. Got really good at that. [00:26:12] Speaker A: That's a good game. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that's okay. The first shareware level of Duke Nukem. The original play. [00:26:21] Speaker A: That a lot, huh? [00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:25] Speaker A: I knew that a naked woman was. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, Johnny. We had the one level. Of course. We knew everything about it. Actually, I think my sister showed me where the naked woman was, so. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think she's in a. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Bikini, but, I mean, I might as well. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Might as. Yeah, at that time, might as well be a naked woman. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Yeah. But. But anyway, back to the topic at hand. The twitch just blows out Spahn's kneecap. [00:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Boom. [00:26:52] Speaker B: With a perfectly placed shot, and then. [00:26:57] Speaker A: Kneecap in the gut. Those are the two most painful places to be. [00:26:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:00] Speaker A: And Sam's, according to the reservoir dogs. [00:27:02] Speaker B: Sam's like, twitch. I thought. I thought you. And Twitch says, I did. I did. [00:27:08] Speaker A: I did shoot him. [00:27:08] Speaker B: I love. I love the added little ridges on the I did bubble. It's pretty great. Tomo is doing good work. Sam says, jeez, this is getting nuts. He's, uh. He's gonna go hang out with Michael Keaton. And you want to get nuts? [00:27:28] Speaker A: Let's get nuts. [00:27:28] Speaker B: Let's get nuts. [00:27:30] Speaker A: I heard. Where'd I hear this? I think it was on a podcast. It was on blank check, but his name's actually. His name was Michael Douglas. [00:27:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, I heard that. But, you know, to get a sag. [00:27:40] Speaker A: He had to pick his name. [00:27:41] Speaker B: You have to have a name nobody else has. [00:27:45] Speaker A: Right. [00:27:45] Speaker B: And he chose it because of Buster and Diane. Mm hmm. Little ditty about Buster and Diane. [00:27:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause I just watched perfect blue, and then I listened to the episode on it. [00:27:58] Speaker B: Oh, nice. I've never seen perfect blue. [00:28:01] Speaker A: You'll listen to a blank check. You haven't seen the movie of. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Most episodes of blank check. I listened to. I've never seen the movie of and have no intention of seeing the movie. But it's a good hang. [00:28:13] Speaker A: No, it is a good hang. I can see that. I've listened to ones where I haven't seen the movie before, but it depends. [00:28:17] Speaker B: I listen to, like, three or four movie podcasts that I really don't intend on watching the movies. But if I do, then I'll skip that episode and come back to it after. [00:28:27] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. Yeah. Perfect Blue was fucked up. [00:28:34] Speaker B: I believe it. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Highly recommended, though. And we get a perfect shot of Granny Blake here next. Because remember, they were over at Granny Blake's last issue, so they're still there. [00:28:48] Speaker B: And Cyan, Granny Blake and Wanda were out at the park, which is why Terry couldn't get a hold of him on the phone. [00:28:56] Speaker A: But they're back, they're chilling, and she tells her that Al came to visit her, and she's like, uh, what? [00:29:05] Speaker B: Granny? How. How could al come to, uh. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Sounds a little. To Wanda. She's like, oh, my God, she's getting. She's. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah, she's. She's got a little cuckoo bananas. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah, she should run for president. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Oh, too close, Johnny. Too close. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Too close to home. [00:29:22] Speaker B: Too close to home. But fuck, yeah. I'd vote Granny Blake for president. [00:29:26] Speaker A: I would vote for Granny Blakes. You should run for president. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Shit. Yeah. Then, uh, you know, the phone's going off, and Granny Blakes is like, hey, could you get that for me, dear? And Wanda answers it, and it's her neighbor just being like, shit. The fuck this shit? [00:29:41] Speaker A: The two dead people on your lawn. [00:29:44] Speaker B: The police said to the phone call. [00:29:45] Speaker A: No one wants to get. The phone call no one wants to get. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we smash cut from that to high window office of Jason Nguyen. [00:29:54] Speaker A: Classic. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Classic. And he's just sitting in the. Sitting in the blue light, basking and thinking, brooding. And then they. They cook up a scheme to make sure that none of the neighbors talk. [00:30:10] Speaker A: Yeah, you got to get to the neighbors now. [00:30:14] Speaker B: And then across town, we're at another tall windowed boss office at the top. [00:30:19] Speaker A: Yes. They have this. They have very similar tastes in offices. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Yes, they do. It's Tony twists. Tony twists. Vito Gravano. [00:30:29] Speaker A: Vito Gravano. [00:30:30] Speaker B: That's his other name. [00:30:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:31] Speaker B: And he's. He's ripping. He's ripping his guys a new one because he's like, I told you not to fucking kill anybody. That's not what you were there for. [00:30:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that classic. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he doesn't need that kind of attention. The cartel's already busting his balls. He's got enough of problems already, Johnny. And for that, you got to see violator miniseries issue number three. [00:30:53] Speaker A: We know about those problems. [00:30:54] Speaker B: We know about those problems that. Oh, boy. [00:30:58] Speaker A: Some wacky hijinks. [00:31:01] Speaker B: The wackiest. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Then we go back. So he's like, all right, so you go take care of this shit. [00:31:06] Speaker B: Right back. Right back where we started the issue, Johnny, with Terry Fitzgerald getting his ass handed to him by overt kill. [00:31:13] Speaker A: Yeah, no, like, that's a painful panel. He just cacks into the. [00:31:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:17] Speaker A: Dumpster. [00:31:18] Speaker B: He's already got. He's already got the bloody nose, the ripped lip, the big old goose egg on his forehead. Yeah, it's also got a little bit of a. Because Tony Vito Gravano twist, saying, I hope Terry Fitzgerald was dumb enough to rush right over for that little business meeting. Yeah, that says he was. He was. [00:31:42] Speaker A: And overkill says he wants to. He could crush his bones into fine powder without splitting your body open, which is. Yeah, pretty fucked up. [00:31:51] Speaker B: That's. Jesus. Could you imagine? I couldn't imagine. Ugh. That would hurt so bad. [00:31:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And then he's about to slam him like he's about to hulk slam him like he does to Loki. [00:32:01] Speaker B: It's like he's got. He's got his OJ, the slammer slammer, and a nice, big, fresh stack of pogs, and he's about to wham. Right down on it. [00:32:10] Speaker A: You had an OJ slammer? [00:32:12] Speaker B: I didn't have an OJ slammer, but I did. I did see a. An Instagram reel a couple days ago about the five best slammers ever. And number one was the OJ. The slammer slammer. [00:32:26] Speaker A: That's the most nineties thing I've ever heard of. [00:32:27] Speaker B: Oh, man. But anyway, why is he. [00:32:30] Speaker A: He's about to slam him, but then, boom. Spawn comes in. [00:32:34] Speaker B: A dead shadow becomes a crimson blur. Its movements are quick, deliberate moving with specific intent that snatches Terry's battered body and touches down 20ft away, knee deep in garbage. Specific numbers, Todd father. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Various very specific numbers. The Todd father loves them. [00:32:52] Speaker B: I'm surprised he didn't say in two and a half feet of garbage, but he just says, knee deep. I like how overt kill is just. [00:32:59] Speaker A: Like, hey, hey, you took my guy. [00:33:02] Speaker B: I was gonna smash that into a fine powder. And, you know, spawn puts Terry down and Terry and is like, stay and Terry's like, no, I gotta save him. We gotta save him, dad. I gotta save him. [00:33:18] Speaker A: So he rushes overkill. Cause Terry's just. He loves his family. [00:33:23] Speaker B: He loves his family. Yes, he does. Overtkill starts powering up, and his little eyepiece is going. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Speaking of Godzilla versus Kong or Godzilla x Kong. There's a pink godzilla that powers up a lot. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:33:38] Speaker A: I like the pink Godzilla. There's a nice aesthetic choice. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Oh, nice. I mean, any, any Godzilla is a good aesthetic choice, if you ask me. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Yes. So he shoots it. He shoots at his laser eye. He charges it up and then spawns cape. Just like. That's it. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:55] Speaker A: It's the first time it's ever used its. Its sentience to save another person besides Al. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Or besides its host specifically. [00:34:04] Speaker A: Besides host. [00:34:07] Speaker B: And then, Johnny, we get perhaps called out because of what's coming up later in the issue. Al grabs a two by four. I know it's gotta be. [00:34:19] Speaker A: It's the toys. [00:34:20] Speaker B: It's. I'm hoping there's a nail we can't see in it. But Al grabs a two by four and slaps overt kill on the face with it. [00:34:29] Speaker A: They're like, the toy's gonna come with a two x four. He's gotta use a two x four, like, ten times. We gotta make it his thing. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, as you know, Spahn is just like, hitting overt kill with this two x four. Sam and Twitch come up and, you know, they're just like, in media fight. Like, literally, in media fight. And they're like, what's. What's happening? [00:34:55] Speaker A: That's where we get the opening quote. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Then we get the opening quote. Yep, yep, yep. [00:34:59] Speaker A: They decide to shoot. [00:35:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:00] Speaker A: And it just pings off. [00:35:01] Speaker B: It just pings. And overt kills. You know, these bullets he just got hit with? You know, nothing. He pays them no nevermind. And he's just telling spawn, time to pop that zit. You call ahead. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Always with a good humor there, overkill. First you're comparing him to poop, now you're comparing him to a pimple. [00:35:21] Speaker B: Hey, zit. [00:35:22] Speaker A: That was a popular nineties thing. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Yeah, zit. Zitz. [00:35:25] Speaker A: You got zits, dog. [00:35:27] Speaker B: And then again, we cut back across town, and Wanda is jumping out of a tag, or a tag. A taxi. [00:35:34] Speaker A: A tag, a tag. [00:35:36] Speaker B: I don't even know what the fuck's going on there, Johnny. And there's a whole bunch of reporters. There's like, a gaggle of reporters outside her house. And they're like, Miss Blake. Miss Blake and the taxi. Driver's like, hey, lady, my fair. [00:35:49] Speaker A: And everyone's just yelling stuff at her. FBI traitor. [00:35:51] Speaker B: Murderer fled the scene. And then a police officer comes up and is like, hey, I'm gonna. I'm gonna need you to come down to the station. And he's just like, there's no sign of your husband. We put it on an APB for her arrest. And then she's like, no, not Terry. Not my terry. It can't be. [00:36:11] Speaker A: So she begs the neighbors to help her. [00:36:15] Speaker B: She's like, you gotta. You gotta know something. You gotta know something. And then I. We learn what Jason Nguyen and his goons did to ensure their silence. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Yeah, the couple are illegal immigrants. One of the guys has. Didn't pay his taxes for three years. Yeah, which doesn't seem that bad unless you had a shitload of taxes. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:36] Speaker A: You know, you resume paying them. So the IR's isn't that mad at. [00:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah, come on. [00:36:42] Speaker A: There's got to be some kind of debt forgiveness program. He can get in. He should. He shouldn't have been that scared. [00:36:46] Speaker B: What's the statute of limitations for not having a fade tax? [00:36:50] Speaker A: I don't know. Who fucking knows? It probably just depends on how much your taxes are. Because if they owe you money, they're probably like, yeah, please don't file. [00:36:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. Then another lady had a. Had a secret child who lives not too far away, but she can't go see him or. No, he got arrested. [00:37:15] Speaker A: Yeah, she's got arrested. [00:37:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:18] Speaker A: And she's been promised his freedom, so. [00:37:22] Speaker B: She'S got a plea deal for it. And then. [00:37:25] Speaker A: So they bought off all the neighbors. [00:37:27] Speaker B: Bought off all the neighbors. And then Wanda just sinks to her knees and starts crying and we. Good? How many words are necessary on this page? Are all of those words necessary? [00:37:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's the real classic toddfather wall of text. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Oh, boy. And then, like, on this same page with this, you know, heart rending visage of Wanda Blake, just distraught, it just cuts immediately back to more action. [00:37:59] Speaker A: Yeah, Terry's just back running at him. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Terry tackles a dumpster right into overt kill's butt. Knocks him over. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yep. What? [00:38:15] Speaker B: And then. And then overt killed hit Terry with spawn. He's just holding on to his foot. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Holding on like a chicken leg. [00:38:28] Speaker B: And, you know. [00:38:29] Speaker A: And twitch is taking aim. And Sam's like, your guns useless. He's like, I got an idea, sir. [00:38:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And so while. While overt kills, just splooching and cracking and smiting. Sam, er, spawn. And Terry, he's just slowly taken aim. Twitches, and he says, bingo. And blams. And shoots a bullet right into overtkill's ear. The one spot of his body that's not heavily. Heavily armored. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Damn. Yeah, that would hurt. [00:39:03] Speaker B: And, uh, he didn't know what to expect. He was hoping it was going to be some big. Some big, uh, seismic disruption versus. [00:39:11] Speaker A: But all it did was create his comic book spin off. [00:39:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it just. It just, uh, reverted him back to his original programming to go beat up youngbloods into bad rock. [00:39:22] Speaker A: So, see, youngblood number one. [00:39:25] Speaker B: Is that number one? I thought it was seven. Seven. [00:39:27] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I'm getting old. David. I can't read. [00:39:29] Speaker B: Oh, man. You got it. You gotta put in your reading glasses. [00:39:32] Speaker A: I guess so. [00:39:34] Speaker B: My reading glasses just happen to be my regular glasses. [00:39:37] Speaker A: Well, la dee da. [00:39:38] Speaker B: And then we go out on Sam and Twitch just standing over the bodies of Terry Fitzgerald and spawn, just looking down at him. [00:39:49] Speaker A: What a bloody mess. [00:39:51] Speaker B: Twitch says, quite literally. [00:39:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And they're just bloodied. And down the ground. Sam's got a fantastic gut. [00:39:58] Speaker B: Yeah. It's amazing sticking out. He's got his little cigarette, his little curvy cigarette. I like how all of his cigarettes are curvy. [00:40:10] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that's the issue. But then there's, like, ten more pages, though. [00:40:16] Speaker B: There's so many pages here. We get the blah, blah, blah. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Basically, it's Terry Fitzgerald complaining about hockey and then just being kind of a dick about toys. Yeah, it's that nineties, like, edgy talk. It's just like, okay, okay. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And he references an old Billy Crystal movie, running scared, which, if you remember, Johnny, was filmed in Chicago. The final sequence. The final sequence takes place in the. What is currently being dismantled. Jesse Thompson. Jesse Thompson Thompson Center. I don't think it's just the spaceship building. If you want to see Chicago, Chicago in the mid eighties in both its grandeur and its dilapidation. Watch running scared. It's good. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Okay, I'll check it out. [00:41:09] Speaker B: It's, you know, it's an eighties buddy cop movie. So the thing that I find hilarious about that movie specifically is at one point, they're like, we gotta go to the ghetto. And then the location they used for the ghetto was the fucking Brewster building where they filmed fucking child's play. [00:41:33] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:41:34] Speaker B: And it's like, ain't no, ain't no way. That's the fucking ghetto, dude. But also, you could see a building I used to live in, in the background. [00:41:41] Speaker A: So there you go. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Very good. Very good. Very exciting. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Yeah. He's like. He just blabs on about the toys. [00:41:51] Speaker B: He shuts fire. He's talking about Marvel's. Marvel's puny toys. Is this where he did it? [00:42:05] Speaker A: He's bigger than the five inch mutant figure on the market today. [00:42:08] Speaker B: Yeah, no, but he's also referencing the financial hardships that Marvel was going through. [00:42:15] Speaker A: They do it a couple times. And they do the letters too, I. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Think, which led to them selling off the rights to a lot of the logos, which is why Stephen King had what was the Punisher skull. [00:42:30] Speaker A: In Dark Tower. He had Doctor doom. [00:42:32] Speaker B: He had Doctor doom because there was one movie that they based off of one of his books that had a logo on the front of a semi truck. Ghost Rider. [00:42:44] Speaker A: No, it had the green Goblin. [00:42:46] Speaker B: All right. Okay, okay. That's what it was. Yeah, but, yeah, so Stephen King got to hold on to some Marvel logos for a little bit, which is pretty great. [00:42:55] Speaker A: And then we get an ad for the toys. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Toys with, this is for series one with Al Simmons in his banail two x four. [00:43:03] Speaker A: There's a two x four. And you get a violator bendy and you get a medieval spawn of. [00:43:08] Speaker B: From Todd Toys. [00:43:10] Speaker A: They're just really excited about these fucking toys. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they are. [00:43:15] Speaker A: I mean, I remember they were a big deal. [00:43:17] Speaker B: Still are. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Still are. Then we get the absolute tome of the spawning grounds. [00:43:24] Speaker B: It's pretty wild. [00:43:28] Speaker A: First you get the dedication to Don Thompson, like we talked about, the super fan, and then we get some super fans writing in or super. Not fans. [00:43:39] Speaker B: A mix. A mix. [00:43:40] Speaker A: I'd say the first guy's just really mad about that out of order printing. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well, he's not. So he's not mad about the out of order printing as much as he is with Todd McFarlane being like, I'm not going to bore you with the details of this story. And he's like, please bore me with these details. And then I wish he had just not bored us with the details. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Yeah, they're pretty boring. [00:43:59] Speaker B: It really doesn't matter. But it's just like he said that he just wanted to prove that late issues or issues being produced out of order isn't what caused the comics industry slump of the mid nineties. And he's like, look, we put out a book every month. There were no production delays on at least having a book out every month. The industry's still going in the crapper. So. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that was just the comic crash, baby. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it happens. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:30] Speaker B: A whole bunch of specific numbers in there. So I bet the Todd father enjoyed writing that letter. [00:44:36] Speaker A: Then a guy from Milestone media calls him out for not naming them when the guy asks for some more diverse characters, which is cool. [00:44:45] Speaker B: The one thing that I don't like about Todd McFarlane's response to this is specifically, the milestone comics were black created comics. Specifically Todd McFarland says, john, thanks for your friendly reminder. And you're right. You people at milestone are doing a solid job. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Oh, no, Todd. [00:45:08] Speaker B: No. No, you people. Come on. Todd. [00:45:13] Speaker A: Father, he didn't know what he was. [00:45:15] Speaker B: Doing, and it was. It was the nineties. Yeah, but still, this one's a mad. [00:45:21] Speaker A: That spawns, like, he can't be a household name. He doesn't stand for anything. He doesn't have. Like, you know, I don't know. Yeah, he's not someone to be, aspired to be. But Todd's father says, wait, he's only. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Been around for two years. And also, if I gave you all of the answers now, why would you keep reading? [00:45:45] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:45:46] Speaker B: But he also does mention. Is this the first mention of the counter being a countdown counter for the necroplasm meter? [00:45:54] Speaker A: Probably not. [00:45:55] Speaker B: I don't know. This next one was my favorite one, Johnny. Cause it's somebody complaining about the violator mini series being too violent. [00:46:07] Speaker A: It's called violator. It's written in, like, bloody font. Like, what more do they want to be like, stay away if you don't want violence. [00:46:13] Speaker B: I flipped page after page to find bloody corpses, heads with gunshot wounds, and rapid displays of murder after bloody murder, to know holds barred, a pointless plot. What the. I wonder. He should have specifically said about, like, that one guy who, four panels after a gun, gets thrown off of the balcony of a mall, gets just stuck in his head. [00:46:37] Speaker A: So violent. [00:46:38] Speaker B: So violent. But that was. That was literally the point. That was. I'm pretty sure it even said mature readers on the front of it. I can't remember. I could look it up by right now. [00:46:47] Speaker A: I don't think it did, but I. [00:46:48] Speaker B: Think that's specifically what people wanted from the violator miniseries. [00:46:51] Speaker A: It's called the violator blood. [00:46:54] Speaker B: It was great. [00:46:54] Speaker A: What the hell else do you want? Yeah, I wonder what Alan Moore would say to this guy. Tell him to jog on, mate. [00:47:01] Speaker B: Fucking diabolical. [00:47:03] Speaker A: And then there's a guy who says, like, I stood. I stand for you in my comic shop. [00:47:08] Speaker B: Yeah, he's defending. Defending the toddfather and the spawn. [00:47:14] Speaker A: You know, I love how here he says, does that mean I'll do 400 issues of Spawn? I don't know. It's looking like he probably will. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I mean, since he's not writing main title now, it would have to be 400. [00:47:28] Speaker A: What does it mean? I'll do. But. You know what I mean. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but there's well over 400 issues in Spawn's universe. [00:47:37] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm talking about, like, just main spawn. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah, well, we're gonna see that in, like, the next four years, right? [00:47:43] Speaker A: I know. We'll see in our lifetimes. And you'll hear about it here first. [00:47:46] Speaker B: Or after. [00:47:48] Speaker A: Or after, depending on how caught up. [00:47:49] Speaker B: We'll talk about it eventually. Yep. That's real exciting. And then we get a couple of pinups. We got boof. Boof. [00:47:59] Speaker A: Everyone's favorite character, boof. [00:48:01] Speaker B: We got a real cool looking spawn. I'm pretty sure John Betty's done a spawn pinup in the back before. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Okay, that's pretty cool. [00:48:10] Speaker B: He's got, like, 1200 abs. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Yes. And, like, twinkling green magic sparkles. [00:48:17] Speaker B: We got violator fan art. [00:48:20] Speaker A: I think this is the same one that was in one of the violators. I'm pretty sure. [00:48:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. Just not in color for some reason. An advertisement for the Savage dragon sculpture. [00:48:32] Speaker A: The Savage dragon sculpture. [00:48:35] Speaker B: You know them, you love them. You want to own one of them. [00:48:38] Speaker A: How much is it? $150. Wow. [00:48:40] Speaker B: $150 plus 6.25% sales tax in Texas. And $6.95 shipping and handling per sculpture. An advertisement for booth number three, Johnny then Wildcat adventures on the back comic. A comic of the Wildcats television show. [00:48:59] Speaker A: So that's worth $317 today. $150. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Dang, man, that's steep. That's steep for a sculpture of an action of a comic book person. [00:49:10] Speaker A: It's probably not. This is expensive. Yeah, but I don't know. Cause I don't have them. I just buy the very affordable action figures. Yeah, I got Jessica priest here with me. [00:49:20] Speaker B: I got. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Cause she's here. [00:49:21] Speaker B: I got redeemer. Redeemer minus one hand. But he still protects the podcast. Every time I record. [00:49:27] Speaker A: What happened to his hand? [00:49:29] Speaker B: I dropped him onto a carpeted floor. [00:49:33] Speaker A: And it disappeared. And then it broke. [00:49:35] Speaker B: It was the one of the. Like. It just. It just snapped off. [00:49:42] Speaker A: Damn. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:43] Speaker A: Sorry, Radima. [00:49:44] Speaker B: I guess. I guess it just literally fell in the exact wrong position. Yeah, but I still got his hand and I still got his sword. So, you know, we can. I can recreate scenes from evil dead two with it. [00:50:00] Speaker A: Absolutely. Well, that's Spawn 23. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:50:15] Speaker A: So next up, we got scorch 28. My Jessica priest action figure, guiding us to the scorch. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Oh, and my redeemer action figure. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Losing his hand. [00:50:25] Speaker B: Losing his hand in service of the scorched. [00:50:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So we've talked about this cover for a bit here. At least. The first cover, the a cover should. [00:50:37] Speaker B: Come as no surprise. That is the COVID I got the Jonathan Clappian cover. That is a very excellent stylized version of Ravenspawn. That's very good. [00:50:50] Speaker A: Yes, John, he has, like, there's, like, telephone lines in the background or something, and there's, like, ravens just chilling on him. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got. He's got, like, snaggledy sharp teeth and his little glowing green eyes. It's just fucking great. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it makes me excited for no home here, for sure. And then there's a bee cover, which is haunt like, on a shipping container. [00:51:15] Speaker B: That's. It's either a shipping container or on the back of a truck. [00:51:20] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:51:21] Speaker B: It's kind of weird it's a truck because you can definitely see the tail lights at the bottom there. So it's like, on the back of a truck. On a truck that honestly looks like it's driving through the streets of a city. [00:51:35] Speaker A: It has blood on it. [00:51:37] Speaker B: And there's also, again, birds. Probably raven crows. [00:51:43] Speaker A: Probably ravens. Ooh. Yeah. [00:51:46] Speaker B: It's real nice. It's real. [00:51:47] Speaker A: It's nice. And that's by Francesco Tomaselli. [00:51:52] Speaker B: But I will say it's no, it's no Jonathan Clapian. Yeah. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Yeah. That's definitely the one to get. [00:51:58] Speaker B: Yeah, indeed. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Oh, scary, scary. I can't imagine a whole book with his interiors is gonna be like this movie. [00:52:05] Speaker B: It's probably gonna give me nightmares, honestly. [00:52:08] Speaker A: I know it's gonna be nightmares. [00:52:11] Speaker B: Wanda's gonna make me stop reading spawn because it wakes me up in the middle of the night screaming. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Hopefully not. Oh, my God. Like, I do have no home here. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Oh, no. So why don't we crack open this bad boy and look at these credits and give credits for creditor do, Johnny. [00:52:31] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:52:32] Speaker B: As has been for the past couple of issues. Script plat by John Layman with additional script by Todd McFarlane. Art by Stephen Segovia and Jesus. I love the Steven Segovia art. Colors by Ulysses Arriola and Robert Nugent. Lettering by andworld Design covered the covers. Creative director, Todd McFarlane, editor in chief, Thomas Healy. And then we got previously in the scorched. After the loss of their powers, the scorched have decided to stay. Stay in the fight. [00:53:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. Sure. Yeah. [00:53:11] Speaker A: You can say that happened. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Yeah. You could have said that happened, like, three issues ago. [00:53:17] Speaker A: It's so funny to think about. Cause remember, like, in, like, the two early 300s, when obviously Todd McFarlane was writing them or was before Thomas Healy was on? It was just. They were, like, paragraphs. [00:53:26] Speaker B: It was just wild. [00:53:28] Speaker A: This had nothing to do with the previous issue. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember that. That was. That was one of our main conceits of the show is, okay, we don't. We know that the previously zon don't actually pay attention to anything, but they've gotten. They've gotten much better. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Yes. And this tells you what you need to know. [00:53:43] Speaker B: This issue does start with a sort of dramatis personae, but only for one character. [00:53:51] Speaker A: He looks a little like Leo DiCaprio here. [00:53:53] Speaker B: It's a meet Jason Wynn. It's like the. It's like Jason Wynn is the contestant on a dating show. And it is like, this is Jason Wynna. [00:54:00] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty much. [00:54:02] Speaker B: This is his story, man. Remember when dating shows used to actually be fun instead of just fucking creepy? [00:54:11] Speaker A: I don't know. I was never a big dating show guy. [00:54:13] Speaker B: My sister and I used to watch the dating game all the time. It was fun. And then I remember very clearly once she told me if I ever grew up to be one of those people who had to go on a dating show to find somebody to date that she was going to, she was gonna be very disappointed in me. I was like, okay, okay, I won't do that. So I had to promise her that I wouldn't be one of those dating show people. [00:54:42] Speaker A: I more like the more modern ones. Well, not modern, but like, the early 2000 ones, like blind Date and fifth wheel. [00:54:48] Speaker B: Those were fun. Oh, man. Fifth wheel was a little mean, though. [00:54:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it was. [00:54:56] Speaker B: Cause they all start the night in the fucking rv, and then, like, people get kicked out of the rv as it goes. [00:55:04] Speaker A: That's next. [00:55:05] Speaker B: Oh, okay. That was also. Jesus. [00:55:08] Speaker A: Next was mean. Hell yeah, man. Next. [00:55:13] Speaker B: The things we do for entertainment. [00:55:14] Speaker A: So, yes, Jason Nguyen on a dating show, in a nice blue suit, smoking a cigar. [00:55:20] Speaker B: He's looking quite spilt there. Yeah, but, you know, so it's just. [00:55:25] Speaker A: He'S got a scar on his eye, which he got when he was disruptor, I think. Right. [00:55:31] Speaker B: Did he have it before he was disruptor? [00:55:34] Speaker A: He got it. I think Spawn gave it to him. [00:55:36] Speaker B: While he was disruptor, because I thought he already had it before he was disruptor, because maybe he did, because I just. I'm pretty sure I remember that one issue of early king Spawn where it's got, like, maggots coming out of the eye hole. [00:55:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I might be misrepresenting when he takes his mask off. Yeah, you're right. [00:55:55] Speaker B: To reveal that he is Jason Wayne. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it must have happened earlier. [00:56:00] Speaker B: Who knows? [00:56:01] Speaker A: But he's got his eye scar. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:02] Speaker A: He's smoking a cigar. [00:56:04] Speaker B: And he's back. He's back as the head of the agency. [00:56:09] Speaker A: Yep. [00:56:10] Speaker B: And, you know, he has plenty of enemies. He has plenty of plans. [00:56:18] Speaker A: And one of the plans involves our friend from the previous issue 30 years ago. Yeah, overt kill. [00:56:25] Speaker B: And he's just hanging upside down with no arms and no legs, yelling at Jason Nguyen. [00:56:33] Speaker A: He died in hell when they were going to hell. And I like that he can just, like, wave it away. But he's scooped up by the agency after a recent defeat. [00:56:40] Speaker B: Yeah, well. Cause he's not hell being. So. Even if he was dead, he whisked away. [00:56:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:56:47] Speaker B: He's. [00:56:48] Speaker A: I'm just saying, that's. It's just a funny way to, you know, he's not dead. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it's. He's the scavengers. He's the scavengers, Johnny. He's. He's literally. He probably paid some jawas for because, you know, the jawas scooped in and. [00:57:01] Speaker A: Found the jawas of hell. [00:57:02] Speaker B: Yeah, they take anything that's not nailed down and some things that are. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Yeah, they're probably are like, jawa, like creatures in hell. I imagine there's enough, like, debris from the war and stuff. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Jawas are the fucking crackheads of the Star wars universe genre. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Oh my God, I love Jawas. I will not take this. [00:57:17] Speaker B: I love Jawas, but they just take shit. There's like, here's some shit. I'm gonna take it. It's like, what are you doing? That's not your shit to take. [00:57:27] Speaker A: I'm gonna sell it. [00:57:29] Speaker B: They're gonna trade it for some eggs. Sukkah. Apparently Sukkah in Polish means bitch. [00:57:36] Speaker A: So that episode of the Mandalorian holds up real well. [00:57:42] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:57:43] Speaker A: No, it's Jason Wynn. He's got overt kill torso upside down, scooped up after a recent defeat, and. [00:57:53] Speaker B: I totally forgot what overt Kill's original name was. So when Jason Wynn refers to him as Mister Roka here, I was like, mo raka. Who? Mo ra? [00:58:03] Speaker A: Yeah, mo raka from the daily show. [00:58:08] Speaker B: From my mother's recipes or whatever it is that he does from. From the contestant on the fucking. Wait, wait, don't tell me that guy. [00:58:19] Speaker A: No, mister Rocca. [00:58:21] Speaker B: So he. Jason Nguyen leaves overkill hanging in his little hangar. Quite literally leaves him hanging and he exits the room, and Charlotte Lynn is there saying, it's time for your 11:00. And boy, Johnny, I hope his 11:00 is a fighting. A fighting lunch with some ninjas. [00:58:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I hope so. He loves that. [00:58:43] Speaker B: And Charlotte Lynn is like, I don't. What is. What is that thing? And Jason Wynn's like that. You don't got to worry about that. That's classified. [00:58:51] Speaker A: It's just a female specimen of a haunt. We have a haunt? [00:58:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, no, I was referring to. [00:58:57] Speaker A: She passed to something else. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Yeah, she doesn't know what. [00:59:00] Speaker A: Talking about overkill. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Yeah, but. So the 11:00 is that he goes into a room with a female haunt in it. [00:59:06] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry, I jumped ahead. [00:59:07] Speaker B: No, and I like. I like how these guys are all dressed up like little a minions from the. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Yeah, they're like minions. Banana. [00:59:14] Speaker B: Banana king Bob. Um, and. [00:59:18] Speaker A: And we love the minions here. [00:59:20] Speaker B: Hey, I unironically do love the minions. Those guys are. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Those guys are fucking great. They're hilarious. [00:59:27] Speaker A: They just rip off with the raving rabbids. There's a video game, the raving rabbids, and they were the same. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Do you not remember? You yourself literally said I was video game illiterate not 45 minutes ago. [00:59:40] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [00:59:41] Speaker B: You're right. [00:59:42] Speaker A: Well, anyway, look up raving rabbids minions. They stole the minions from the raving rabbids from the Wii game. I'll die on that hill. [00:59:49] Speaker B: I mean, you probably aren't wrong, is the thing. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but then they are dressed like minions, and they're kind of looking at this female haunt, which they just casually drop, like, oh, yeah, we got a female haunt. It's like, whoa. [00:59:59] Speaker B: But that's about as much. That's about as much thought as Jason Wynn gives to it. He's like, I don't. I honestly don't fucking care. We're just gonna use her to try to try to mess with the scorch. [01:00:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he wants Jessica priest. [01:00:12] Speaker B: Jessica Priest is the one that he wants. Then somebody comes by and gives him a folder for Operation Mousetrap. [01:00:20] Speaker A: Top secret, classified. [01:00:24] Speaker B: And he's talking. He's basically just his ultimate plan that he lays out here is to get Jessica priest back into the agency because he was like, she was a good fucking agent. I need her again. [01:00:34] Speaker A: Yeah, she's a good killer. She killed Al Simmons. [01:00:38] Speaker B: Yes, she sure did. And bishop, although not under orders. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Bishop. [01:00:44] Speaker B: Bishop. Yeah. And this bishop. [01:00:47] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Okay. I was like, did I miss something? [01:00:52] Speaker B: She had a crossover episode. She's the one. She's the one who gave. Oh, wait. Oh, shit. That was cable. But she's the one who gave. Who gave cable? The mutant virus. [01:01:08] Speaker A: How's bishop related to cable? They're both in the future. [01:01:11] Speaker B: I think Bishop hated cable for a while because cable didn't get rounded up like all the rest of the mutants and branded with the big m, which is why Bishop has a big m. But, yeah, they're both in the future. Then we get some pundits. Some good pundits. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Have we ever. Have we seen. [01:01:32] Speaker B: I do. I do not think. I don't. [01:01:34] Speaker A: Have we seen Steven Segovia's pundits before? [01:01:36] Speaker B: I don't think we've seen Steven Segovia's pundits before. I think this is our first scorched pundits. [01:01:42] Speaker A: I think so, too. [01:01:44] Speaker B: I might have to go. [01:01:44] Speaker A: That is so. I just don't remember. But I don't remember. I remember we would have commented on it before. I don't remember. Like, any time there's a new pundit, and I definitely don't feel like I've seen these before. [01:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I definitely don't feel like I've seen these either. [01:01:59] Speaker A: The CRN lady, they're all talking about the scorch and how they basically, they're, they're saying that they were terrorists attacking these peacekeeping institutions. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. And spinning it. The info news guy with his, he's. [01:02:16] Speaker A: Got, like, a handlebar mustache. [01:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah. With his fucking Hulk Hogan stache. [01:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah. He was like, hulk Hogan. [01:02:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Talking about she spawn. [01:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:28] Speaker B: And then our boy brock, the shock. Just, you know, I have to, I have to. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Scowling. [01:02:36] Speaker B: I have to say one, one thing that I don't like about this particular page is that they chose to have words emphasized in blue and purple on a black background. And they don't pop very well. [01:02:47] Speaker A: They really don't. [01:02:48] Speaker B: But, but the rest of them. But, you know, it's good. [01:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, talks about beret wearing frog eaters. [01:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah. He's talking about how these superpower weirdos are a worldwide menace. They're a menace. And they should prepare to fight and prepare to win. [01:03:11] Speaker A: Galaka just throws France under the bus. You don't give a shit. [01:03:13] Speaker B: I mean, yeah. Could you imagine this man ever giving a shit? I wonder if that, I wonder if that might be a subtle, a subtle jab at Alex Frog. Alex Jones and his, their turn of. The frog's gay. [01:03:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I was wondering, too, he said, frog turn of. The freaking frog's gay. My favorite thing of his recently that I've seen going around on Instagram is him recounting the prequel's plot. It's hilarious. [01:03:38] Speaker B: I think I might have actually seen that at one point. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I can send it to you. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Ridiculous. [01:03:44] Speaker A: He's like, Senator Palpatine, senator from Naboo. Small, peaceful planet. And he just goes on and on, talks about the trade Federation. [01:03:53] Speaker B: I remember a while ago, somebody trying to convince me that Alex Jones, before he got his own television show, was a very good, actual fair and balanced reporter, and that they thought that him getting his own show is what made him crazy. And I was like, what are you talking. What are you talking about? They were like, he did good work before he got his own show. And I was like, what are you talking about? I do like that. We then flip the page, and we see that Mark is watching all of these pundits at once, along with some footage of the Paris encounter with the scorched in the agency. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Is this you at home, David? You say you always have multiple things going on. [01:04:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, basically, pretty much, yeah. I'm nowhere near as collected or with it as Mark is, but, yeah, basically, if I could have one of those eighties Marvel superhero wall of computer monitors, I would totally. [01:04:59] Speaker A: You would? [01:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:02] Speaker B: And so Mark's, you know, being the man in the chair for a mission that the scorched are currently on, he says, we have to stop being so public. And Jessica Priest, like, they're just doing. They're just doing what they're supposed to do. Don't. Don't worry about it. [01:05:17] Speaker A: They're doing news. They're doing news. [01:05:18] Speaker B: It's classic. Classic. Classic counterintelligence. And then, you know, we learn a little bit about, uh, you know, is it Kilgore's? [01:05:32] Speaker A: Kilgore used to work for the agencies. This might be. This might be from haunt. This must be from the Haunt series. [01:05:37] Speaker B: This agency must be, um. But I wouldn't know. [01:05:40] Speaker A: Cause they can't get haunt number two anymore. Three or four. Even though I used to see him every day at myopic. [01:05:46] Speaker B: Should have. You should have done it, Johnny. You gave. You gave away your secret, and now. And now somebody. Somebody else is enjoying them instead of you. But. But so Mark's. Mark's been trying to follow up on the agency information that haunt gave him. He's like, I can't find the agency anywhere with all this stuff. And, you know, the access codes aren't even active anymore. So he says the only sign of anything related to the agency is in that building. But be warned, it'll have the info we need, but it'll be heavily guarded. Jessica's like, ah, no problem. She's like, what's heavily guarded to us? So Jessica and haunt take out these guards at this building in rapid fashion. And then haunt just, like, cuts their way in. [01:06:37] Speaker A: Yep. [01:06:38] Speaker B: And then redeemers at the outside, just like removing electrical equipment to make the building's power go down and. [01:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah, just like cutting up the transformer. Zoom. [01:06:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:54] Speaker A: Scrack. [01:06:55] Speaker B: The backup power kicks in in 20 seconds. And, you know, the scorched move in total silence. And just dispatch all of the guards there in front of him. [01:07:05] Speaker A: Yep. They just kill everybody. Han's like, slicing and dicing. [01:07:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Jessica Priest. [01:07:12] Speaker A: Priest has got this knife where she's just, like, stabbing people in the throat. [01:07:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Redeemer's just, like, baseballing people's heads off. [01:07:19] Speaker A: Decapitating dudes. Yeah, yeah. They said it took 20 seconds. It only took them 14. [01:07:26] Speaker B: Yeah, 14 seconds. That's all it took. Then when the power comes back on, the alarm is tripped. And so they've got three minutes to clear out before reinforcements arrive. [01:07:37] Speaker A: She's gonna download the agency's intel. So they got the. Got the intel, but then, boom, they don't even need the intel because they find out who gave the orders on them. Because Jason Wynn pops up. He does a little zoom call action. That's the best review of the issues. You get a few pages. He's just like, at his house. [01:07:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:07:56] Speaker A: He's like, on the toilet. [01:07:57] Speaker B: Yeah, Viet. And Jessica's like, when? And he's like, or you could call me boss. [01:08:05] Speaker A: What? [01:08:06] Speaker B: What? A job offer? What? A job offer. Like, yeah, no, not. Yeah, no, yeah. Fuck no. And it's like, you do realize I'm not giving you any choice in this? And she says, you know what? Blam. It shoots the screen. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Shoots the screen. Then we see him on his toilet at home. Yeah, I guess he's in his office. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah, he's in his office. Johnny. [01:08:24] Speaker A: It's just funny that, like, this whole dramatic scene, he's just on a laptop. [01:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I was about to say, johnny, he could be one of those people that gets power from being public about doing private things. That could just be a super fancy bathroom for all you know. So maybe he is on the toilet. They start blowing up the. Blowing up the control room. The scorch stew. [01:08:47] Speaker A: No, they. [01:08:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the agency blows it up. Um. [01:08:52] Speaker A: And you said she spent too much time around Al Simmons. They're both too headstrong for their own good. [01:08:58] Speaker B: Charlotte Lynn's like the we're getting, we're getting security camera feed from the building. The explosion, it didn't kill them. I just gooped them up and made. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Them egg, and it made a hot bubble and cocooned them. [01:09:13] Speaker B: And Jason Wynn's like, yeah, I didn't expect him to die. What are you talking about? [01:09:17] Speaker A: But now she'll be really pissed off. [01:09:19] Speaker B: At me, so she'll come at me. She'll come at me, bro. [01:09:23] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:09:24] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [01:09:25] Speaker A: That's what he wants. [01:09:27] Speaker B: He's like, we don't have to go after the scorched anymore. They'll just come right to us. It was his plan all along. And his plan involved a new, a new kind of, kind of force, if you will. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Yes. He's found a better use for overt kill. [01:09:47] Speaker B: Hmm. [01:09:49] Speaker A: It's like an army of overt killers. [01:09:51] Speaker B: Overt killers? Yeah, they're just, like, fucking. [01:09:56] Speaker A: There's a whole bunch of overt. [01:09:57] Speaker B: A bunch of them, yeah, there's, like, pieces. Pieces of overt kill just, like, synchronized to other people's bodies. Technomeshed pieces of overt kill into other flesh. [01:10:08] Speaker A: Technomeshed with flesh. [01:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm really sad that they didn't bring that up again, because we love that Turner phrase. They cover that. He was a miracle of modern cybernetics. Technologies fused with flesh. Just put techno meshed. I would have been like, yay. Woo. Technomeshed. Yeah. So just like, he's taken little bits of overt kill and implanted them into some of his guys, and now he's got, you know, just a whole bunch of these guys. Wild. Then we get the spawns or the scorched skeleton issue. [01:10:48] Speaker A: Score. Skull to end the issue. And we get, and we got spawning grounds. Fan art. [01:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good one too. It's Jessica Priest. Heavy. I like it pretty much. [01:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's scorched Jessica Priest featured. I really like the stained glass one at the bottom. [01:11:06] Speaker B: That's a really good one. I like the one next to it where it's Jessica Priest taking selfies with spawn. And he's just like, stop. Stop that. Stop that. And they've got ice cream. Hell yeah. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Now these are all pretty good. [01:11:21] Speaker B: They're really good. There's that classic one on the top right of Jessica Priest on a motorcycle with just the most ridiculous guns. [01:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah, just the most ridiculous guns and chains all over everything. [01:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah. You need more spawns universe, Johnny. [01:11:36] Speaker A: Always. [01:11:38] Speaker B: Always. Yep. Man, when you, when you can get back to the shop, you're gonna, you're gonna be in for some spawns universe. [01:11:47] Speaker A: Johnny, I will be out there so. [01:11:49] Speaker B: Much universe, we get the image classics ad that we're used to, Warhammer. [01:11:56] Speaker A: And then a different toy ad than normal. [01:11:58] Speaker B: The Warhammer 40K toys. [01:12:00] Speaker A: We've had it a couple times, but you don't get it that often. There they are, those space Nazis. [01:12:08] Speaker B: Space Nazis, aren't they basically? Yeah. Space marines. [01:12:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:16] Speaker A: That's another excellent run on scorch. Another excellent issue from John Layman and Steven Segovia. [01:12:22] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. And, well, Johnny, we've done with. We've done with the issues today. And since those issues involved overt kill, um, we have to remember that when we rate the puppies today, that, uh, we need to not bring up that one of the dogs pooped on me earlier. Um, so we gotta remove that from the rating. So we're not rating the dog who pooped on me earlier, but we're gonna rate some puppies. [01:12:53] Speaker A: I'm sorry you got pooped on by a dog today. [01:12:55] Speaker B: It was. Oh, it was. It was disgusting. It was terrible. And it was gross. And so we're not rating him. We cannot rate that man because he will get a very low score. [01:13:09] Speaker A: Yes, evidently. [01:13:10] Speaker B: Very low score. [01:13:12] Speaker A: But it's time to rate the other puppies, which are the issues. So it's time to rate the puppies. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Overtkill likes talking about poop, which is why I thought that was appropriate. Right, right. [01:13:25] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. I just people that the context of, like, do you have dogs and they poop on you? [01:13:32] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So. So, yes, I have old dogs, and they are often incontinent. And sometimes I am collateral damage. [01:13:41] Speaker A: It happens. [01:13:42] Speaker B: I guess. I guess. I guess we have to start acting like every episode could be somebody's first episode. They don't know that I'm a crazy Mandev who lives surrounded by these little beasts. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that's. If we're gonna go that deep on it, we have to. [01:13:55] Speaker B: Yeah, we have to. But you know what we gotta go deep in, Johnny, is we gotta go deep into the rates that we were doing. [01:14:01] Speaker A: Yes. So Spawn 23 was our first issue up. A classic early issue of Spawn. Just kind of a similar format where it's going through, like, three or four different threads. I liked it. Cause the Sam and twitch action. I'm not the biggest overkill fan. I mean, he's all right, but, like, it was just fun. Like, out of having Terry and peril and having Sam and twitch there. Just like all your favorite folks are there, like, active in the story. So that was pretty cool. Art's great. I mean, Todd McFarlane knows what he's doing when it comes to spawn. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Hard. Hard to beat it. Honestly. [01:14:35] Speaker A: Hard to beat it. Spawn looks great, and all the other characters look awesome. And Sam and Twitch are hilarious, but I'm going to give it 4.5 bullets to the kneecap. [01:14:46] Speaker B: Nice. [01:14:48] Speaker A: Bam. Right on there. I don't. Yeah, it's not like a perfect five is, like the grandest issue of spawn, but it's. It's fun, and it keeps the story going. It has some Todd father traits that just make you chuckle, like the walls of text and the exact times and things like that. We're just like, oh, there he is. Yeah, but it's charming. [01:15:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. The art is incredible. It's very good. It's a feast for the eyes. There's. There is just so much going on in this. It's a four. It's a four part little arc. This. This clear. This jumps all around easily could have been cut into two additional parts, so it could have been a five part arc. It's like six pounds of sausage shoved in a one pound casing, Johnny. It's a little overstuffed. So while overt, stuffed overta stuff. So while I do like that we get the Sam and twitch, that it's all of the threads coming together for this story. It is just kind of a lot. It's not like I don't sit down to reread it and be like, oh, woof. I remember all the stuff I have to go through, but it's just. It's just a lot. It's just. [01:16:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:05] Speaker B: So I don't know if it's just because I'm feeling a little down or a little pooped on. I'm gonna give it three taxi drivers yelling for their fares. Because the art is amazing. The story is great. But it's just. It's just so much thick. It could be pared down with no loss of fidelity at all. [01:16:28] Speaker A: Lay it on thick for me, baby. [01:16:33] Speaker B: But no. [01:16:33] Speaker A: Thick and messy. Yeah, no, I can see that. For sure. It works for me, though. I don't know. Maybe because I'm a Covid brain. [01:16:40] Speaker B: That happens. I mean, you know, still love it. It's still great. Three is a perfect. Three is a perfect, perfectly fine score. But absolutely gotta. Gotta get that average weighted down a little bit because it's. We have a little stacked. [01:16:56] Speaker A: It is a little stacked. And speaking of stack, go to the other stack and get your scorched out because we're rating scorched number 28 a infiltration mission into the agency, followed by reveal. With some more overt kill, we get an overkill of overkill. [01:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:16] Speaker A: It's like these two issues. [01:17:17] Speaker B: It's kind of like the. What were they called? The little tiny, the little tiny demons that had the clown faces. [01:17:30] Speaker A: The minions? [01:17:31] Speaker B: Were they called minions? [01:17:32] Speaker A: No, they were called something else. [01:17:35] Speaker B: Why were they called. I remember there was a very specific name. It's kind of like a whole bunch of those only overkills. [01:17:44] Speaker A: Terrors or something like that. [01:17:46] Speaker B: How is it terrors? [01:17:48] Speaker A: I do like, I remember Mark Spears called him his goonies, which I thought was funny. His little goonies. But, yeah, scores. 28. It's a romp. Action filled. I don't know. The Jason wind reveals kind of been milked a little bit, I feel like. And it's like, it reveals it again to Jessica. So it's like, okay, okay. Yeah, we know. We know. Yeah. But I do like that he's zooming in from his office when they're in, like, this big climactic moment. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah, he's no dummy. He knows to not be right up in the. [01:18:20] Speaker A: He knows not to mess. Yeah. It's fun to see the scorch work together. Uh, the corps members here. Um, so I'm going to give it. [01:18:29] Speaker B: Four. [01:18:32] Speaker A: Four, um, handlebar mustaches on the middle. Pundit. [01:18:36] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:18:39] Speaker A: Segovia's arts, always clean and exciting. So, like, that's always good. It was just a lesser of the John layman's for me. I can't get. They can't all be five. [01:18:47] Speaker B: Yep. [01:18:47] Speaker A: I mean, it is kind of an in between issue. [01:18:49] Speaker B: It is. It is a very in between issue, but it's, it keeps, it keeps its pep up a little bit. I'm gonna, I'm gonna agree with the four. I'm gonna give it four, four screens that that mark is watching. It's, it's. [01:19:08] Speaker A: I mean, I would change my score. I'm gonna give it four frog eating, beret wearing, french. [01:19:15] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. That's a great rating. And, yeah, it's, I mean, it's good. It's good. It's, it's not incredible like the John Layman's have been so far, but it is still very good. And, yeah, it's, you know, it's building. It's building. You know, we're gonna have a couple of dips in excitement as you go. Just. That's the nature of the beast. [01:19:40] Speaker A: Nature of the beast. It does have an excellent cover. [01:19:43] Speaker B: Amazing cover. And, you know, it's very. The ruthlessness of Jason Nguyen is laid out very plainly and very cleanly here. Whereas if the toddfather had written this return of Jason Wynn, he would have spent two and a half issues saying the exact same things with 800 more words. [01:20:05] Speaker A: Sure. [01:20:05] Speaker B: So the story story economy is still unbeatable. [01:20:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:14] Speaker B: But, yeah. Good couple of issues. [01:20:18] Speaker A: Puppies rated no poopy. [01:20:19] Speaker B: Nope. Not. Not currently. [01:20:21] Speaker A: What else is not poopy? Is some of this swan community. I shouldn't say that. [01:20:28] Speaker B: Well, no, but you said. You said they're not poopy, so. Yeah, that's. [01:20:31] Speaker A: They're not poopy. They're not poopy is that spawn community on Instagram, which we love. [01:20:35] Speaker B: It's amazing. [01:20:37] Speaker A: We're always lucky to have all these artists in the back that we get to see in the fan art of these modern spawns. And I wanted to highlight one today that really spoke to me. It isn't girt. And he did the spawn stained glass. [01:20:56] Speaker B: Yes, he did. [01:20:57] Speaker A: And I believe he did for the spondy challenge. I don't know. Hopefully. I don't know if he, like, got in Orlando. Uh oh. He didn't win anything, but that's okay. He did great. Yeah, I think they're all awesome. [01:21:08] Speaker B: He's got. He's got an owl, a clown, a gunslinger. All of them in stained glass form. [01:21:17] Speaker A: So definitely be sure to give him a follow and check him out. [01:21:21] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:21:22] Speaker A: I just. That one really spoke to me. The stained glass. [01:21:26] Speaker B: He's got a little papas. Johnny. He's got a little papa. [01:21:28] Speaker A: Oh, he's got ghosts too. We love that. [01:21:30] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. He's got all the papas. [01:21:33] Speaker A: Oh, I saw that movie. It was great. [01:21:35] Speaker B: Nice. I need to go. I need to go see that. [01:21:39] Speaker A: I don't know if it'll stream somewhere. Probably will. So you always check it out. [01:21:43] Speaker B: I know. They. They added extra dates because wanda into ghost. That. Doubtful. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Doubtful. [01:21:51] Speaker B: Done. Done tried that. It didn't. It didn't take. [01:21:54] Speaker A: Okay, well, he tried. [01:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah. But, yeah. You know who else isn't poopy? [01:22:02] Speaker A: If you listen to ghosts on Apple music or Spotify while you're over there, make sure to type in Lonnie Bones, who does our music. [01:22:07] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Yes. It's the same. Same music. Just. [01:22:13] Speaker A: Yeah, Brian just had a little change of artists identities. [01:22:17] Speaker B: He's got all the stuff up there. I mean, it's. It's happened before. We know. Princess went to the symbol, right? [01:22:24] Speaker A: Yes. [01:22:25] Speaker B: Right. So now we've got Brian to Lonnie Bones. Only you can pronounce Lonnie Bones. And not the simple. We don't have to call the artist formerly known as Brian. Yeah. Lonnie Bones. Welcome, Lonnie Bones. It's excellent. It's excellent music. [01:22:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:42] Speaker B: Fucking love it. [01:22:43] Speaker A: So check out their single now on Spotify and iTunes, but they do our music as well, so. And then while you're over there, while you're on the computer or on your phone. Why would you be on the computer? You're on your phone. While you're over there, make sure to go to Instagram and give us a follow. Yes, we are. Regarding swan pond on Instagram. [01:23:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So go to Instagram, look up Auntie Girt, then go to Spotify or Apple Music, look up Lonnie bones. Then go back to Instagram and look up us. [01:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Play the Lonnie bones music while you're looking at Instagram regarding spot. Yeah, okay. Sorry. It's the first time we had to do the Lonnie Bones thing. We'll have to reverse the order or something. [01:23:24] Speaker B: We'll get there eventually. [01:23:26] Speaker A: We'll get there. We just say at the end. We'll say at the end from now on. I got it. We'll do it next time. [01:23:31] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, sounds good to me. [01:23:32] Speaker A: See, you're seeing some behind the scenes peaks. [01:23:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's great. [01:23:36] Speaker A: It's great. Yeah. Give us a follow on Instagram. We got all that good stuff. [01:23:40] Speaker B: Yeah, think, go back to think. Go after you. After you like us on Instagram, go back to Apple Music, but go to Apple Podcasts and like us and review us and rate us there or anywhere else that you do that. [01:23:53] Speaker A: Anywhere you get podcasts, give us a rate, review, subscribe. [01:23:56] Speaker B: That really helps us. [01:23:57] Speaker A: If you want us to give us a more in depth conversation, you can always send us an [email protected]. [01:24:04] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:24:05] Speaker A: And every week, we like to ask a question to spur your creative juices. Creative juices. You could say, cut out that. Pause. Creative juices. And this week, I'd like to say, because I remember the second time I had Covid, or maybe the first, I read a lot of spawn. So do you have any experience, like, has anyone like marathon spawn comics when they had Covid or when they were sick? I'm just curious if that's something that anyone's done or what do you do when you're sick? Is there something you do? Do you read a lot of comics? You watch a lot of tv? You watch a lot of movies? Like I do, you know, just curious. [01:24:42] Speaker B: I basically sleep and have something on the tv. And I'm sick. I can't focus on anything. So just, like, background noise and, you know, my pillow and blanket. And that's me for three days, pretty much. [01:24:58] Speaker A: That's exactly what I do. I just put on movies I've seen before. Cause I know I'm gonna fall asleep for, like, 20 minutes every hour. [01:25:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:04] Speaker A: So I try to watch something new, and I'm just, like. And fall asleep. So usually I watch stuff I've seen before. [01:25:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Although the first time I ever watched an american tale. The first one was when I was sick. And I didn't even know that there was a first one. Because I only knew of five o goes west. So there you go. Yeah. [01:25:22] Speaker A: Hey, and to bring it all back to the beginning. I watched et one time when I had Covid. And I'm wearing an et shirt right now. [01:25:27] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Well, you know what, Johnny? I'm definitely not sick of this. So we need to find something to read to do this again sometime in the future. What do you say? [01:25:40] Speaker A: So I say yes. Even though I'll be better and have to go to work. And I won't have all the spawn time to read. Because I won't have Covid. I'll still find time to do it. And what we're going to read for next week. Is spawn number 24. And spawn number 353. [01:25:55] Speaker B: 353, yeah. Nice. I guess because I didn't have my note up. So I'm glad that I don't either. [01:26:02] Speaker A: I thought you. [01:26:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it's 353. Good. [01:26:05] Speaker A: Okay, good. So, yeah. Spawn 24 and spawn 353. [01:26:09] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:26:11] Speaker A: Two spawns both, like and dignity. [01:26:13] Speaker B: Two spawn tastes that spawn great together. [01:26:16] Speaker A: Yes. You got your classic spawn and my modern spawn mixed together. [01:26:20] Speaker B: You got your. Your modern spawn. I'm a classic spawn. Spawned. [01:26:24] Speaker A: Whoops. But it's all spawned. [01:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:27] Speaker A: And it's all gravy. And it's all good gravy. [01:26:30] Speaker B: It's all good. Good gravy. It is very good, man. Now I want some gravy. We gotta stop doing this show. Actually, I think I just get hungry in the act of doing the show. So, yeah, regardless of. Regardless of time. I think I'm gonna be hungry when we finish. No matter what. It's. It's now a pavlovian response. I finish, and I'm like. Like, I want a snack. [01:26:52] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:26:53] Speaker B: But so. So I guess in order for me to get to that good gravy, Johnny, I gotta make this the last thing I say. And be may the scorch be with you. [01:27:00] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:27:02] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:27:03] Speaker A: Hell yeah. [01:27:03] Speaker B: Hell yeah. What kind of gravy do you like? You like a brown gravy? You like cream gravy? [01:27:07] Speaker A: It depends on what I'm getting, I guess. Like, if I'm getting, like, a chicken fried steak, I like that you gotta have cream gravy. Yeah, of course. But I like them both, man. [01:27:14] Speaker B: I miss. I miss an Oklahoma. You can always get a side of gravy to dip, like your fries or your chicken strips in, and that just doesn't exist up here. Like, I just want the side of dipping gravy. [01:27:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Cause, like, every restaurant doesn't have gravy like they do in Oklahoma. [01:27:32] Speaker B: Tsk, tsk. Sad day. Sad day. [01:27:34] Speaker A: They gotta get on the gravy train. Yeah.
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