RE:Star Wars - Episode 2 - Attack Of The Clones - With Logan Branam

[00:00:00] Speaker A: These caminos, are they friendly? [00:00:02] Speaker B: That depends. [00:00:04] Speaker A: And on what decks, on how well. [00:00:07] Speaker B: Your manners are and how big your pocketbook is. Good morning, and welcome to the cantina. This is regarding Star wars, the world's 10,000,000th Star wars podcast. I am your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:58] Speaker C: And I have your co host, David Williams. [00:01:01] Speaker B: And because last year. Oh, go for it. [00:01:04] Speaker A: And I'm a guest, Logan Branham. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Returning guest, Logan Branham. That's right. You got to escalate with these things. So last year, you said me and David talk about episode one for Star Wars Day. Now we're bringing in Logan, friend of the pod. It's probably your, like, what, fourth time. [00:01:19] Speaker A: On third or fourth? [00:01:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I think fourth. [00:01:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's. I think it's fourth. [00:01:26] Speaker B: You're the quadrilogy club. [00:01:28] Speaker A: What episode? [00:01:30] Speaker B: Episode four. [00:01:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:32] Speaker A: You're. [00:01:32] Speaker C: You're a new Hope. You're our new Hope. [00:01:34] Speaker B: Hey, would rather watch that movie. I mean, whatever. I don't know. This movie is fun. It's just like, oh, man. [00:01:44] Speaker A: There's, like, a lot of fun parts to it, but there's definitely, like, I say, like, this is the movie. Like, despite the problems that I feel like the first one has and, like, some little, like, nitpicky stuff, it's still mostly, like, a pretty tight, nice, like, Star wars movie, the phantom menace. But, like, this is the one where I'm like, oh, man. Like, this one feels, like. Is the one that takes it off the rails to just set it in the direction that the equal trilogy just, like, has to kind of follow at that point, you know? [00:02:14] Speaker B: Well, it's when they. You can really. You really tell that this is one of the first movies shot on digital. And that's what I meant by, like, I'd rather watch episode four, because this is not, like the people. Like, it's just not well lit. It's just a weird kind of looking movie. Like, it doesn't look. [00:02:30] Speaker A: It looks like they're walking through a cartoon a lot. [00:02:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And, like, they're just, like, bright, like, fluorescent lighting on them. Like, everyone looks kind of weird. Like, you see the makeup and, like, the wigs look bad. [00:02:41] Speaker C: I was gonna say I didn't know. [00:02:42] Speaker B: How to shoot stuff on digital yet. [00:02:44] Speaker C: I was gonna say about two thirds of the way through, I was like, you know what? If you just think of it as a cartoon, it's. It's a pretty good cartoon. It's a great cartoon. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, this is a cartoon. It's like. It's a reverse Roger rabbit. [00:02:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:59] Speaker C: So what we're, what we're talking about today is we were talking to episode two, something about the clones. So I went to Disney Fly, typed in Clones, episode two. And Johnny, man, I love to meet in Plo Clune or. Yeah, Plo Koon. [00:03:16] Speaker A: So you'd never, you'd never watched this one before? [00:03:19] Speaker B: No. You said you watched the Clone wars episode too. [00:03:21] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's what we're watching, right? [00:03:23] Speaker B: No, you didn't? [00:03:24] Speaker C: No, we're watching Star wars, episode two actually. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Is Flo Koon really in the second. [00:03:30] Speaker C: Episode of Clone wars? The introduction to him and how he found Ahsoka. And it ends with, with general grievous getting I've disappointed at you from Count Dooku. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Does he have an orange lightsaber in that lockoon in the Clone wars? [00:03:47] Speaker B: No, I think they just have. He does. [00:03:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Let me double check. [00:03:52] Speaker B: Because he had that in, he had. [00:03:54] Speaker A: An, in Jedi power battles and I. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Was back in episode two and like, everything's just green and blue and purple and that's it. [00:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah, because I feel like they, that was like a big deal. George Lucas was like, I feel like Samuel L. Jackson talked about that in an interview. He was like, no, they're only blue or a green or red. And he was like, no, I want mine to be purple. And that was like the only difference that they made. [00:04:16] Speaker B: They're like, okay, sure. [00:04:20] Speaker A: Which, like, you know, one of the coolest looking lightsabers, certainly. [00:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pluto just has a blue one. [00:04:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm looking at it here now. [00:04:29] Speaker B: It was orange Jedi power battles, but they got, that was like before they established in episode two different colors. Yes, it's when they established there's only green and blue, it hadn't been established. This movie, it's like, it didn't have to be only green and blue. We only just seen green and blue so far. Yeah, basically like says it's just greeted blue and red. [00:04:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's all you see for sure. I mean, until. Yeah, that's like definitely not a thing now. Because like everything the cuz of, what do you call it? The new, the video games it are considered canon. Yeah, with calc estis. So there's multiple colors in that. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So, no, they'll be, they'll be great. Ray broke that. She's got that orange yellow saber. [00:05:16] Speaker A: Yeah, that they definitely. God damn it. That makes me so mad still, that fucking thing that they don't give her a whole new lightsaber. For the entire third movie, they're just like, no, we'll just, like, use the same one that you broke. Yeah, it's. It'll. It's totally cool. Never mind that. Like, that's part of, like, a Jedi's training, is a builder on lightsaber, and you could have a cool connection that you use the staff at the beginning of your fucking introduction. So, like, it would make sense that you have a double bladed lightsaber. I'm like, no, no, she just has that broken one. She, like, fixed it. It's cool. But it's the same otherwise. Like. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. That was because they had footage of Carrie Fisher holding that lightsaber. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I'm sure, but it's like, you can't you edit a different lightsaber into that footage? I'm just like, what? Or just like. Yeah, or just literally just kill her off. This is a different movie. We're not even talking about that movie right now. [00:06:09] Speaker B: Yeah, we got eight more years. Seven more years. So we're talking about episode nine. [00:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Dude, I gotta. I gotta wait. I gotta come back for that one, because I got a lot of thoughts. [00:06:16] Speaker C: I think we're still gonna be talking about episode two by then, guys. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:20] Speaker B: I was playing Halo Bran last night, and Bran said that they call the Rise of Skywalker episode. So in seven years, they'll be a guest on Star Wars Day. [00:06:28] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Seven years later. But, yes, it's Star Wars Day. And every year it's Star Wars Day. We take off our spawn and our chains and our capes and we exit the Mal bulge and we go into the Millennium Falcon and we fly into space. We put on our Jedi robes or our flight suits or whatever you want to wear. [00:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Why? Because we want to. [00:06:51] Speaker C: Or your bandolier, if you're. If you're a wookiee. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Or your bandolier. Yeah. [00:06:56] Speaker A: Just. [00:06:56] Speaker B: Just nothing but a bandolier. They're naked. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Just. [00:06:58] Speaker C: Just hanging in the breeze. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Ass out. [00:07:01] Speaker C: It's got to be wonderful, actually. [00:07:03] Speaker B: And last year, if you recall, we did Star Wars Episode one for our first. [00:07:08] Speaker C: Because it's the first one. [00:07:11] Speaker B: It's the first one they ever made. [00:07:12] Speaker C: It's the first one. [00:07:14] Speaker A: That's right. [00:07:14] Speaker B: It's the first one. So it must be the first one they made. Right. [00:07:18] Speaker A: It only makes sense. [00:07:20] Speaker B: And now we're going on to episode two, Attack of the Clones. And, I mean, I guess we always kind of start with the credits. So this is written and directed by George Lucas with a script I can do it all from memory. David. Script by Jonathan Hales and George Lucas. Story by George Lucas. Produced by Rick McCollum and starring many actors that we will talk about, but mainly Hayden Christensen, Natalie Porbian, Ewan McGregor and Christopher Lee, Frank Oz, all those people. Ian McDermott, a whole bunch of actors. [00:07:58] Speaker C: What would you say the plot of this movie is, Johnny? [00:08:02] Speaker B: The plot of this movie? [00:08:04] Speaker C: Do we want, like. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Like a sentence or two? [00:08:08] Speaker A: It's pretty much just setting up. It's, like, literally the. The impetus of, like, the lore of the Clone wars, basically. It's just, like, it just, like, essentially establishes how the Clone wars started, establishes that Anakin and Padme, like, are. Got a romance together. And then other than that, like, it's not a lot of, like, important, important things that really happen. I guess it sets up Boba Fett's character as an introduction, as, like, the origin story, but, like, I would say. [00:08:42] Speaker B: It'S about Anakin and Padme falling in love against the backdrop of political unrest in the galaxy. [00:08:52] Speaker C: Yeah, I would. I would think of it in terms of General Kenobi gets to be a detective. It's like a. It's like a gumshoe store, dude. [00:09:00] Speaker A: If only. If only, dude. That's like, the thing starts that way. It's. If they would have just kept it that way and just, like, had it be, like, a true, like, Jedi's being detectives on Coruscant. Like, it's a planet. That's a city. Yeah. Like, that's. There's so many places you could go on that you could go, okay. It doesn't mean, you know, it doesn't have to be like, oh, the dooku's on an entirely different place. Or, like, whatever. We're, like, use it in a way. It kind of hits into that same, like, it gets into, like, the bouncy viewpoint stuff of kind of what some of the newer ones fell into that makes it be, like, it, like, interrupts the flow or it makes it feel disconnected from each other a little bit. I feel like. [00:09:50] Speaker C: Are you talking about the fact that the Jedi can leap salt or jump tall buildings in a single leap? [00:09:56] Speaker A: I mean, they could definitely have done a lot of that, but no, I'm just like, you know, it's like the thing where in the. In the fucking. To go in the last Jedi, where they're, like, the whole movie, they're doing this, like, great deal of, like, a Chase. There's, like, building, and then at one point, they just, like, allow characters to leave this heightened space chase completely undetected. And then rejoin it before it's ever over, before they even ever get to a different planet, while they go to an entirely different planet. I'm like, this is nonsense. Like, that's, like, such a, like, face killer. And I just feel like, I'm like, man, that's. That's the thing with, like, you can kind of also tell with that, like, jumping around when they get to the love story bit and it starts, like, you can kind of tell that George Lucas doesn't. I don't know. It's like he doesn't know how to, like, write more than one kind of love story. It feels like a little bit because it's. It's just so heightened and rushed. When they get to Naboo and it's like the first scene that they have together alone, he just kisses her, like, the first scene, and it's like, oh, my bad. And then they do the romance build. It's so weird to me because it's like they have the kiss first, and then it's like, oh, my bad. And then you see all the scenes of them actually getting to know each other and actually, like, hanging out and doing. I'm just like, I don't know, the pace and everything of it feels so weird. She. [00:11:20] Speaker B: He just was. He had to do it. [00:11:23] Speaker A: He's got the force. [00:11:25] Speaker C: Especially so soon after she said that. When he looks at her like that, it feels creepy. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. I was like, God, it feels so weird. When I was rewatching, I was like, man, I forgot how, like, kind of cringe this love story part of this movie is like, yeah. [00:11:43] Speaker B: So it was released on May, I don't know, probably 17th or 18th. It was released in May 2002. Supposed first post 911, Star wars, if you think about it. [00:11:57] Speaker C: I was the freshman in high school. [00:11:59] Speaker B: I was a sophomore. It was the end of my sophomore year of high school. I remember I went and saw it immediately after school with a van full of kids, my friends. And then we went and saw it again. Immediately after it ended, we went and saw it again. I got double shot. Yeah. And I got in fucking trouble because I was supposed to go home. My mom was super pissed. [00:12:17] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:12:18] Speaker B: I was like, fuck it, we're going again. We just went the second time. It was a hype time for movies. Oh, yeah, dude, just like Spider man had come out. [00:12:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it was just. [00:12:29] Speaker B: It was just like, big time for big blockbuster movies. We're back. [00:12:32] Speaker C: I actually worked at a movie theater at that time. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Which one? [00:12:35] Speaker C: I worked at the. I worked at the cheap the cheap movie theater in my town and the nice theater got. Got episode two. I had to work every day for the first week of. Of this movie, so I had to wait until the second week to go see it. And by then, by that point, everybody who was just like, yoda, just fucking Yoda, just Yoda going ape at the end. So, yeah, that was. [00:13:00] Speaker A: I remember that was the huge, big conversational moment about this movie. It felt like. Was like, oh, you get to see Yoda actually fight for that. That was, like, everywhere right after. Yeah. [00:13:13] Speaker B: People were fucking pumped. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Yeah, dude. So I remember my dad hated it because he was a fan of the original. He was like, I don't get it. He's, like, just jumping around all crazy everywhere. I remember laughing that my dad was. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Like, I don't know. [00:13:25] Speaker A: I don't like it. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Like, I don't know where I come down. I think it's cool. I think it works. [00:13:30] Speaker A: It works. [00:13:31] Speaker B: But they overused it in episode three, definitely. [00:13:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:13:34] Speaker B: He's like, everybody. He's just like. [00:13:36] Speaker A: He's just like Pat. He's, like, just jumping from head to head. [00:13:39] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like an action hero. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is, I think, definitely he should have used more. I mean, they do actually, in this one of his battle scene, show quite a bit of him using, like, more of the force in battle. And I feel like that should have been the definite, like, big priority from, like, yoda as a perspective of character, because he's supposed to be, like, you know, a Jedi counselor. He's supposed to be more, like, force oriented than, like, lightsaber combat and stuff like that. So it would have been cooler to just see more of that specifically kind of stuff. [00:14:13] Speaker C: But, I mean, he had also been. [00:14:15] Speaker A: Like, what if he just could just, like, levitate his lightsaber around and he just, like, fought with his lightsaber, like, floating through the air or something? That would be cool. [00:14:22] Speaker B: I mean, that's the, like, the what ifs of the lightsaber you think about. [00:14:26] Speaker C: Sounds like this sounds like you should watch yourself some clone wars, Logan. Oh, yeah, you get the. You get the. You basically get the. The getting ready montage for anakin. That's what it is. The whole series is the getting ready montage. He's running up the caps. He's, uh, punching the stakes. [00:14:46] Speaker A: He's see, like, I tried to watch some of the clone wars, but it was like, kind of. I don't. Honestly, for me, it's like, a real weird beef of mine is like, sometimes if I. I'll watch, like, the style. It's like, the style of the animation bothers me, and I don't know why. I just, like, kind of hate the animation style. And I was, like, trying to watch. [00:15:08] Speaker C: It, and, like, some of it was. [00:15:10] Speaker A: Cool, but it was, like, too much. Yeah, it was just, like, too much. Like, I don't know, dialogue of things combined in that style that I was like, oh, God, this, like, bugs me. I don't know. I was just like, I don't know. It annoyed me. [00:15:24] Speaker C: It's. It's great to exercise bike. It keeps you. Keeps you distressed. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:15:31] Speaker B: All right, so here it goes. It opens with. Let's just go through it. Let's do it. [00:15:36] Speaker C: All right. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Opening crawl. [00:15:38] Speaker C: Are you gonna read this from memory, Johnny? [00:15:40] Speaker B: No. [00:15:40] Speaker C: Okay. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Do you want me to read it? It's a pretty boring opening crawl. There's unrest in the galactic senate. Several thousand solar systems have declared their intentions to lead the republic. The separatist movement under the leadership of the mysterious Count Dooku has made it difficult for the limited number of Jedi knights to maintain peace and order in the galaxy. Semiramidala, the former queen of Naboo, is returning to the galactic senate to vote on the critical issue of creating an army of the republic that's in clap caps to assist the overwhelmed Jedi. [00:16:13] Speaker C: But this whole movie, I just keep thinking of, if Acab means all cops, unfortunately, that means Jedi because Jedi are the Peacekeepers. This is supposed to be a cop movie, Johnny. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, they're like a buddy cop at the beginning. [00:16:30] Speaker A: It really should have been. That's the thing, is that whole bit at the beginning is so cool when they're just like, oh, hey, we're assigned to guard the senator, who's like, come here, and been attacked because, like, first scene is like her transport getting exploded and, like, her decoy getting killed, essentially. And they're like, we got to figure it out. And it's just like a cool, like. Exactly. You say it's like, oh, hey, buddy cops. Except this one guy's definitely got a boner for her. [00:16:56] Speaker C: One of them. One of them plays by the rules, and the other one's a while. Yeah, yeah, I love a buddy cop. [00:17:02] Speaker A: What? That's. That's. It's true. [00:17:04] Speaker C: That's also kind of what clone wars is, so. But that's between Anakin and Ahsoka. [00:17:10] Speaker B: You get the cool, opaque shot where it, like, pans up as opposed to down, and, like, it does, like, the upside down ship, which is pretty cool. It's, like, going through the fog. It's mysterious. I like the beginning of this. But then you get to like, the moment that the ship blows up and they start moving around. It's just so obvious they're on a fucking green screen because no one can move more than, like, 2ft. [00:17:32] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Yeah. [00:17:33] Speaker B: She runs, she goes like, like 2ft. [00:17:35] Speaker A: It's. Yeah, once you notice that, you just. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Notice no one ever moves, like, barely so much. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:43] Speaker B: And like, even on this first scene of the landing platform, he's like, I guess I was right. There was no danger at all. And it blows up. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:49] Speaker B: And then it's just like, oh, doormain. It's just so, like, you could tell they're on a tiny stage, you know? [00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:17:56] Speaker B: There's an assassination attempt on Padme. And basically from there we cut to the Jedi count. Jedi's are sitting there talking to fucking Palpatine. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Palpatine. Yeah. [00:18:08] Speaker B: He's like, oh, yeah, what do you think is gonna be war? And they're all our favorite scene where they're like, he's a political idealist. Not a murderer. [00:18:16] Speaker A: Not a murderer. [00:18:18] Speaker B: Count Duke is leading separatists. Everyone's like, nah, nah, nah. It can't be. [00:18:22] Speaker A: No, but he's, you know, he couldn't be behind this targeting of a person of his opposition. He's a Jedi, or he was. He's still a good dude. That's the part that's like, I want to know. I'm like, what was the actual, like when. How did Dooku's leaving of the Jedi council go down? Like, was he just like, hey, cool. I'm going to just like, I don't want to be a Jedi anymore. But, like, you know, it's nothing personal and it's nothing sith related, certainly. It's like, it's like, why was he just like, you know, I just don't want to do it anymore? And they're like, yeah, yeah, cool, okay. And then they just assumed that he was just, like, being a good guy with knowledge of Jedi order and abilities out in the world just like, free from them, and that's all chill. Like. And especially because they know he's the leader of the separatist movement, which, like, the goal of the separatists is to, like, you know, bring about the downfall of the Republican, but they're still just like, no, no, he's a chill guy. He's. He couldn't make. Couldn't be him, couldn't be. [00:19:28] Speaker B: There's two answers. There's two answers because there's the old canon and there's the new canon. Old canon. There's a. There's a group, like, when he's looking at that bust in the library coming up here in episode two, it's a bust of Count Dooku, and there's a deleted scene, I think, some of the novel, and maybe in the comic book, he asked her about him. He asked a librarian about him. And there's this group of Jedi called the lost 20 that left the order after the. They thought that, like, the Jedi didn't do enough after Qui Gon Jinn's death to try to find the Sith, and they all left. [00:20:01] Speaker A: So it was right after Qui gon. [00:20:04] Speaker B: And then. So that's the old reason. But the new kid reason is he left before Qui gon died, because he just wanted to be, like, a pathfinder, like his own, do his own thing. [00:20:13] Speaker C: Okay. But I like the original one better. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah, the original. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah, the original one's very way cooler. [00:20:19] Speaker C: Yeah, that was literally gonna be. [00:20:21] Speaker A: And it makes sense with. [00:20:22] Speaker C: Was that, like, he was a professor. [00:20:24] Speaker A: It's like, an actual motive based on, like, his, you know, his padawan being killed. And, like, because that's the thing that's, like, always teased and always talked about as, like, you know, anger leads to hate and hate. So, like, it's like, a impetus for a turn to the dark side is usually, like, rooted in anger. So the fact that he would be angry about the death of his padawan and, like, at the council for not doing enough of it is, like, an actual motivation rather than, like, no, I just want to go and, like, look at stuff, and then, oh, yeah, I hate the Republic now. Like, it's like, what? [00:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So that was the original answer. [00:21:02] Speaker C: He just went on a gap year in Europe, and that's what he did. [00:21:06] Speaker B: But, yeah, I've read some of the books around. I read one Obi wan book. It was, like, a prequel, and Dooku's definitely left already, but that's in the new canon. [00:21:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:21:15] Speaker B: But, yeah, originally it was in the movie that they talk about it, but there's a deleted scene on Disney, even when they almost mention it. But it was in, like, the. Just the other material. Like, I think the comic book and definitely the novelization, I think, but. So Padme busts in on this meeting and is like, yo, someone's trying to kill me. And that's when they're all like, no, no, no way, no way, no way. It can't be him. [00:21:35] Speaker A: No, no, not him, not him. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Do you remember in the trailer they showed that shot of Yoda, where he, like, looks at the camera and looks really concerned and. Yeah, looks really good. This is the first CG Yoda because he was a. He was a puppet in episode one originally. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Still in episode one. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah, they've. They've done over that now. If you watch it on Disney. Plus CGoda in episode one, which. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Really. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I prefer the puppet, man. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Now. The puppets. So much cooler, dude. Anytime you can get away with doing practical effects, it's so much cooler. It just comes across so much better. I just like, ah. [00:22:08] Speaker B: And he, like, looked a little different. He had, like, hair. [00:22:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like they went back to puppet Yoda for the, uh, his, uh, force ghost scenes in the newest. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah, last Jedi. [00:22:17] Speaker A: He's a puppet. Yeah, yeah, the last Jedi. He's a puppet. [00:22:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. This is CG Yoda, another Jedi. Think it could be count Dooku. They actually suggested is some disgruntled spice miners on one of the moons of Naboo. So. [00:22:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Where they. Or they say it's. They're like, what's his name? Head of the trade federation. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Oh, Viceroy Gunray. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Gunray. They're like, where they're basically like, what's his deal? And, you know, like, it could be him. You know, still trying for this, you know, beef from the first one. You're like, hey, remember when he was, like, illegally blockading your planet? But he's also still a member of the senate? Like, funny part. They're like, yeah, we definitely thought this thing and said this thing he was doing was illegal and definitely had a battle and blew up his whole shit. But no, he's still cool with, like, senate terms. Like, he's still one of the senate. [00:23:11] Speaker B: Like, yeah, see? Oh, Bibble gets pissed about later. [00:23:13] Speaker C: Also, the only, like, actual puppet outfit. You can tell they are one of the few actual masks for the monsters. Monster masks. They're not really monsters. They're just jerks. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Yeah, they. That's a. And then it's in that meeting that they. Or, wait, do they. They don't assign Anakin and Obi wan in that meeting. It cuts from that meeting to the Jedi council chamber. [00:23:40] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it cuts to them in that they're in the elevator, and they're about to go CPAb. May. [00:23:45] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Actually, yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: It's. [00:23:48] Speaker B: It's. It's actually Palpatine's idea. He's like, how about an old friend, like, Master Kenobi. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Master Kenobi. [00:23:56] Speaker B: So they sent him in there. They're on the elevator. He's all sweating. He's all nervous to see Padme. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker B: They mentioned that they came back from a border dispute on Anzion. There was a tie in novel about that that I read. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Okay, so that's the one where he. Is that the one where he falls into the nest of gundars. [00:24:12] Speaker B: Gundarks, yeah. I don't know if it happened to that book. I don't remember. I read it, though. It wasn't very good. [00:24:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:20] Speaker B: A lot of those old Star wars books can be hit or miss. [00:24:23] Speaker A: It's, like, a little bit cheesy, the dialogue in that scene. I remember watching it this past time back and I. And thinking, like, oh, man, this, like, dialogue's a little cheesy. [00:24:34] Speaker B: My friend Rachel was telling me that you, McGregor, was, like, drunk for, like, all this curse on shit you, like, said. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Really? [00:24:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I was drunk, man. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. It, like, kind of shows them, like, palling around because, like, you know, Obi Wan does say he's, like, his friend, and you're really. You get that a little bit in episode three with a little more. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Well, that's. Yeah, it feels more like that's. That's, like, the thing that I feel like is the problem with him being the character of Anakin being so young in the first movie. Like, if they would have started him off at 16 already, it would have made more sense for, like, all the comments of him being too old and like this and that. And it would have made more sense to the comments of, like, the original. In the new hope, when Obi Wan is talking to about Anakin as, like, he was his, like, great friend and, like, it was like brothers, you know? Like, it's just like, the age gap difference in them makes that seem like, a weirder, like, relationship. It makes it seem much more, like, strictly a master apprentice type feel. I feel like in the second one, it makes it feel much more to me, like, that vibe rather than they're like, just. They're also friends. [00:25:46] Speaker B: You gotta watch the Clone wars there. [00:25:48] Speaker C: So you're saying. [00:25:49] Speaker A: I guess. Yeah. [00:25:51] Speaker C: So you're saying it's just about as weird as pad or as. Yeah, as Padme saying, I always think of you as that child on Naboo. [00:26:01] Speaker A: That little boy on the boo. [00:26:02] Speaker B: Little boy tatooine. [00:26:04] Speaker A: A little boy on tattooing. Yeah, well, it's. Yeah, that's. That's the other part. It would make their romance so much more, like, believable and so much more, like, you know, a thing that you would feel like is a seed planted maybe in the first movie if they would have been, like, the same age when that movie started. Because she's supposed to be a young queen. Like, she's supposed to be like, 1617 or something in that 14 movie. 14, really? [00:26:33] Speaker B: Oh, God, I need nine and nine and 14. [00:26:36] Speaker A: See, like, that's absurd. Like that. It's like, you just. It's so weird that he did that. It's like you should have just had them both be, like, six kids starring. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Movies was fucking popular. Home alone, one of the biggest movies ever. That movie, blank check. [00:26:54] Speaker A: It. [00:26:55] Speaker B: You know, it's popular. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Doesn't. Narratively, it doesn't make sense. It work as much. [00:27:00] Speaker C: It worked on this guy to go see a movie, a Star wars movie with somebody his age in it. [00:27:05] Speaker A: I mean, I don't dispute it. I think the Phantom Menace is my favorite of the prequels. I watch it all the time. Like, I love the Phantom menace. Qui Gon Jinn is my favorite jet period. Like, and I just, like, think. I think he's the best Jedi of, like, using, you know, what it means to be a Jedi in your own way and, like, doing good with it. I feel like Qui Gon Jinn's, like, the head of that. I love his shit. It's just, like, tragic to me. That's why I am really excited about. I read the other day Obi Wan or Ewan McGregor said he thought he would be Obi Wan again, and I'm like, please, I want more of that season because I want, like, force ghost qui Gon Jinn to, like, be in it. [00:27:44] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, that would be fun. Well, then you talk, and she does call a little boy from Tatooine, but we're skipping over the most important part of this scene. [00:27:51] Speaker C: Okay. [00:27:51] Speaker B: Yeah, the jar jar. You see Jar jar? [00:27:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:54] Speaker B: Jar Jar comes out, and he plays this theme. They don't give a fuck. After episode one, you think they would, like, hide him, but they're like, nope, here comes jar jar, bitch. [00:28:03] Speaker A: He has a big consequential moment in this. [00:28:06] Speaker B: It's so funny, this initial scene, because he goes like, lookie, looky, there's a Jedi here. This is like, so jar jar. Like, he doesn't dial it back at all. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Yeah, torso is like, no, he just, like, goes, yeah, hey, a good. [00:28:20] Speaker C: A good double digit number of Clone wars episodes revolve around Jar Jar frat falling his way through a diplomatic mission. [00:28:29] Speaker B: And somehow clone wars are good. [00:28:32] Speaker C: Yeah, they're fun. I like the filler episodes. That's the. The good thing about having those early seasons be 20 episodes each because then they had to put filler in. Yeah, and the filler is some of my favorite shit because that's what the droid episodes are. Maybe I need to just comes out being important, like, right off the bat. [00:28:52] Speaker A: He's just, I like, binge enough stuff anyway. I should just watch them. Like, I love Star wars, but I've just been like, ah, but the animation, I hate it. And so, I don't know, I male just. [00:29:05] Speaker B: Looks so weird in the scene. Everyone looks orange. I was thinking about the digital photography they're not good at. Like, yeah, I'm just looking at it here. I. The reason I'm keeping track of it, I'm just scrolling through it on my phone on Disney. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Nice. Oh, shit, I should do that as well. [00:29:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just a good way to. [00:29:22] Speaker B: Keep track of it. But yeah, they come back and he's like, oh, I love you. I love her. I've seen her every day. Jar Jar, I believe he says. And Jar Jar's like, it's just so funny. Asked her like, how she's doing and jar jar, like, she's a happy. [00:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that's so funny. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Love Jar Jar. [00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah, Jar Jar is good. And it's annoying that, like, you know, I mean, he got as much shit as he did get. Like, mostly I feel like, you know, I mean, especially, like, given the things you read afterwards is like, that was very damaging to that, like, actor himself. Like, it was really hard to, like, see all that negative shit right off the bat, you know? Like, it just feels really brutal when it's like, dude, that guy's like, you know, hired to do a role and then he probably was like, if any of any, like, you know, the general stories about George Lucas's directing style are correct. Like, he was probably, like, just encouraged to do bigger and more like, yeah, do it again kind of stuff, you know? [00:30:25] Speaker B: Like, I was watching some of the special features they have on Disney plus. And like, he's literally like, oh, it's the second take. It was perfect. I'm like, come on, man. I got a weekly podcast and I do three takes. [00:30:37] Speaker C: He gave. He gave it the old Tyler Perry. [00:30:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Little does anyone know, we record each episode three times and we pick the best episode. [00:30:44] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, of course. So you gotta do. [00:30:46] Speaker B: It's our third attempt at this episode, right? [00:30:49] Speaker A: This is the third take right now. [00:30:51] Speaker C: Johnny won't let me leave. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Speaking of takes, I remember that's the thing about this movie, is like, it just. And we'll get into it with, like, the mystery stuff. Like, it starts. It has moments of good, but, like, it just feels so much like a first draft. [00:31:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:03] Speaker B: Like, it feels like a. Really wrote it in a notebook. I know he did. He, like, wrote it by hand with pencil in a notebook, like, two weeks before they started fucking filming. I swear to God. And then, like, they brought on Jonathan hales to help, like, script doctor it. And there's a lot of reshoots, a lot of structuring during the making of it. But it just feels like a first draft because, like, the. It starts out. [00:31:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:24] Speaker B: So the mystery starts unraveling. You know, they're gonna watch her and decide, you'll see who's attacking her, and then it cuts. [00:31:30] Speaker A: Yeah. They're gonna just keep an eye. [00:31:31] Speaker B: The bounty hunters, which is cool. You get Zam Wessel and Boba Fett. [00:31:36] Speaker A: Zam Wessel, Boba fett or Django fett. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Janga Fett. Oh, my God, you're right. It's crazy. That Django Fett ship is named Boba Fett starship. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Isn't that weird in the production photos and stuff? [00:31:51] Speaker B: No, it was called slave one. No, Disney doesn't want anymore. Did you know this? They changed the name? [00:31:58] Speaker A: No, what? [00:31:59] Speaker B: It's called Boba Fett starship. [00:32:00] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Like, I mean, I spray because it was a fire spray. It was a fire spray gunship. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah, but so they call it Boba Fett's fire spray. Like, the card in the new card game is called fetch. [00:32:13] Speaker C: Fire spray, fit, spit. [00:32:15] Speaker A: I mean, like, I guess that's fine if they just use fat, but the fact, if you're calling it, like, boba fetts, when it's like the first, like, just dad's shit first, like, all right. Like, you know. Yeah, it is a cool, scary. [00:32:30] Speaker B: Like, I, Django fat probably was a slaver. You know, he probably sold people. You know, he's a bad. [00:32:36] Speaker A: He's definitely not a good dude. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Like, hundreds of thousands of himself. [00:32:42] Speaker B: That's true. [00:32:43] Speaker A: That's true. [00:32:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:44] Speaker A: I mean, that's true. That's the big thing about this movie, too, is like, it totally does not get into the consideration of, like, clones as people at all. [00:32:58] Speaker C: Everybody. Everybody. In this reprehensible things. Everybody. But also, yes, it's absolutely the clone wars. And each clone has. Each clone has a personality, and you fucking love them, and then they die and it's like, ah. And some of the generals are like their fodder, but, like, plo Koon, he's he believes that every being has a purpose. [00:33:23] Speaker B: I do think little morals, like, in the Star wars galaxy and, like, there's definitely no morals. Like, Obi Wan's not like, oh, my God, the humanity. How dare they make this? [00:33:31] Speaker A: Like, when he gets to Kamino and, like, investigates it, he's like, mmm, yes. Impressive. [00:33:36] Speaker C: Like, he's just like. [00:33:37] Speaker A: He was like, glosses over. Like, it's like, no big deal. Yes. The clone army. Sure. Like, it's like, what? You know? Yeah. [00:33:44] Speaker B: You think they'd be like, horrific. Like, oh, the implications. There's so many fetuses. There's so many fucking fetuses. [00:33:49] Speaker A: When you see the shot of them just, like, babies in the pods, just, like, sitting there, it's like this. Natch. Next batch is almost ready. It's like. [00:34:01] Speaker B: But, yeah. So the bounty hunters meet up and they're like, oh, we gotta kill her. [00:34:08] Speaker C: Yeah. And they exchange. They exchange some worms. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Sam has the great line of cool. I blew up the ship, but she used a decoy. She was pissed. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:18] Speaker B: He gives her the worms. He's like, there could be no mistakes. These are. [00:34:21] Speaker A: These, like, real weird centipedes. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Like, they call that cluhoons or something. Clohoons. I remember because I used to play the card game back in the day, and they had a car, an older. [00:34:32] Speaker A: Car, supposed to, like, bite her and sting her, which is like, it feels like a weird assassination tool. That's, like, not really. You just, like, assume when it. That's a very cool shot, though, when, like, the droid shows up, and it just doesn't. It just parts the, like, the window and puts the thing through, which is. It also doesn't make sense because later, when they show that shot, there's just a circle hole in the window rather than, like, the square that it shows the thing, like, the circle or whatever. [00:35:04] Speaker C: The circle hole also shows up after Obi Wan Kenobi has jumped through it and has presumably been replaced. [00:35:11] Speaker A: That's true. Yeah. But it's just like, these things that are like. Yeah, I guess they just, like, seek out, uh, you know, living things and bite them, I guess. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Like classic. Like, film noir. Yeah, like, yeah, like adventure, adventures, assassination. And your George Luce loves that. [00:35:31] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:35:32] Speaker C: Like, how they're. They're just. But they're not tall enough to. To trigger our two's sensors. [00:35:39] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just like, but that's such a dope scene, though. When Obi Wan just, like, goes for it. You just like, see, he's just like. You're just like, oh, wow, it's, it's so surprising. They come in, like, pop out and he kills, and he kills. The Anakin jumps in and kills the, the centipedes. But then you're just like, oh, what are they going to do? What's the next move? And Obi Wan just goes for, I'm gonna jump through a window, scratch onto this flying drone. You know, it's just very cool. And, like, just a crazy response, you know? [00:36:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty badass. It's a fun chasing. Yeah, you get a. [00:36:17] Speaker A: So cool. [00:36:17] Speaker B: You get a dub. [00:36:19] Speaker C: Obiwan is a terrible, terrible, terrible passenger. Jesus Christ. I wouldn't want to run. I wouldn't want him riding with me. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Only he just movie. He's just really is actually in this biz at the early business in, in Coruscant. Like, when they're doing. And he's like, chastising Anakin. You do you get to see the Doug that me and my brother definitely thought we were just like, oh, it's subulba. When we first watched kids, Bruce, like, oh, he's, I guess, retired with his, like, winnings from all the racing game to Coruscant now, and, you know, is just flying around. [00:36:59] Speaker B: He gets to say Jedi pudu. Pretty cool. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty cool. [00:37:03] Speaker B: No, I like this chase scene. I like Zam's like speeders, like a wailing guitar. [00:37:09] Speaker A: It's super cool looking. With the two front spires. Yeah. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, they're both cool. I like the, the one he picks and Anakin picks. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Everything kind of reminds me of the fifth element. Taxi. Bruce Willis has to. It feels like there's inspiration. [00:37:28] Speaker C: I was wondering if Coruscant was based on New York City from the fifth element. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Which movie was first element? [00:37:36] Speaker C: It was 97. [00:37:37] Speaker A: Death element. Yeah, 97, that's right. Yeah. [00:37:43] Speaker B: You know, the city as a. There's definitely some fifth element to it. And you get to see some of the underworld stuff. [00:37:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Like the city stacked on top of the city. Stacked on top of the city. It's fun. It's got, like, multiple. Multiple lanes of traffic. [00:38:00] Speaker A: They have sort of a callback to, like, the power coupling moment. Yeah, they just literally fly through it. Like, he's like, nah, no worries. When he sees her because she shoots it to be a hindrance to them, and then it basically does nothing. Like, she shoots it to create this electrical barrier, and they just fly through it, like, no worries. [00:38:23] Speaker B: It's like they were like, oh, man. This power coupling gags would be. That's to be the joke of the series every. [00:38:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:33] Speaker B: Like, sniper vision. [00:38:35] Speaker A: It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's very cool. [00:38:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Little triangle like site. That's pretty cool. [00:38:40] Speaker C: Yeah. With, like, the. They all have to line up. [00:38:44] Speaker B: It's like a week. Shoots. Shoots him out of there. And then Obi wan, like, free falls, and Anakin catches him. [00:38:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker B: He'S a big dick. [00:38:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I'd be like. I'd be like, I don't want to fly with you. I wouldn't want to fly with him. [00:39:02] Speaker A: So it's a cool cantina that they end up going into finally, because, like, then, you know, they're just flying in. Obi. Or then Anakin just jumps out of nowhere. Just like. He's like, yeah, cool. We're in the right spot. I do like that they show the. A lot of the, like, basically force fall slowing ability stuff in this one. You kind of get it with there. You get it later with Windu in the arena. And I always thought that was, like, kind of a cool Jedi ability. Uh, sometimes when he kills the Tusken. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Raiders, he jumps off the cliff and, like. [00:39:38] Speaker A: Yeah, when he falls down. Yeah. When he first goes down. Which is also a thing that I always was, like, in the third movie, I was like, you're telling me Windu can't survive that? Like, I don't think he just died outright from getting electrified. And he can Jedi fall and stuff. So I was always like, come on, let's bring Mace Windu back in some kind of novel. [00:40:00] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, this one did bring him back in a tv show if they did. [00:40:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:06] Speaker A: Yeah. They could definitely bring him into the calc estus stuff. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:10] Speaker A: If he was alive still. That would be very cool. [00:40:14] Speaker C: Yeah, this bar is pretty. [00:40:15] Speaker A: He's just got two robot hands. [00:40:17] Speaker B: He should have been. [00:40:19] Speaker C: It's real groovy. [00:40:20] Speaker B: He should have been the max maxed out part. And fucking Force Awakens. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Truly should have an old man's way. [00:40:27] Speaker B: With an eye patch. [00:40:28] Speaker A: Yeah. But that. The cantina that they go in is dope. And, like, another. Just like, kind of. [00:40:33] Speaker B: It's kind of like a sports bar. [00:40:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it's get that noir feel. Exactly, though. It just tight. It's like the rush hour two scene where they go into the karaoke bar. It's like. It's kind of like that kind of vibe. It's like we're going through here. [00:40:46] Speaker C: It's very. It's very quarks bar, which also came in the nineties. So, you know, that's Star Trek. That's Star Trek. That's Star Trek deep space nine. [00:40:56] Speaker B: I thought so. Okay. [00:40:57] Speaker C: But yeah, it's very. It's very like every kind of bar puts together all at the same time and somehow it works and everybody loves it. Yeah, go to that bar. [00:41:07] Speaker B: I like to watch it like some kind of weird. They're watching some kind of droid football in the background. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the guy from fucking the Matrix trying to sell death sticks. [00:41:19] Speaker B: Want to know that character's name? [00:41:20] Speaker C: Yes. [00:41:21] Speaker A: What is the character's name? [00:41:22] Speaker B: Elon Sleazebagano. [00:41:25] Speaker A: Elon sleazbagano? [00:41:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:30] Speaker A: That's fucking hilarious. [00:41:31] Speaker B: Unfortunately, it's el a n, not el o n, but it's Elon sleazebag on him. [00:41:37] Speaker A: That's hilarious. Yeah, I know. It's the guy that plays like mouse in the matrix. I'm pretty sure. [00:41:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it is in the first matrix. [00:41:47] Speaker A: In the first matrix. [00:41:49] Speaker B: Yeah, he tried some. What are deathsticks? Cigarettes. [00:41:54] Speaker C: According to. [00:41:55] Speaker A: Deathsticks gotta be cigarettes. [00:41:57] Speaker C: According to the parental guidance at the beginning of on Disney plus, it says tobacco use, so that's the only thing I could think of that would be tobacco. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Or it's like some kind of, like, thigh stick kind of thing. That's like, you know, some old seventies weed reference that George locust would know. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Like, you don't want to sell me death sticks. [00:42:21] Speaker A: I don't want to sell you death sticks. [00:42:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, uh. [00:42:25] Speaker A: I want to go home and rethink my life. [00:42:26] Speaker B: It's pretty funny. [00:42:28] Speaker C: The assassin. The assassin gets. Gets assassinated, and they find the little. [00:42:32] Speaker A: It's very Mos Eisley throwback. Obi Wan, with, like, the. Just like the lopping of the arm in the cantina as well. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He says the wolf. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:41] Speaker C: It's a tried and true method. Remove hands first, ask questions. [00:42:45] Speaker A: Remove hands, interrogate. [00:42:47] Speaker B: I always love the line where he's like, where are you going, master? He's like, to get a drink. [00:42:54] Speaker A: Which would have been great if he just, like, literally did just sit down more. It was just like, more of like, ah, fuck, man. This is annoying. All right, let me grab a drink real quick. [00:43:03] Speaker B: It's annoying. [00:43:04] Speaker A: Sort it. [00:43:05] Speaker C: Yeah. So they make him this. Johnny, if this is a buddy cop movie between Obi Wan and Anakin, as much as we want it to be, who's Sam and who's twitch? [00:43:18] Speaker B: I mean. Oh, man, I don't know. They're pretty different. It's Dexter Jetster is Sam, and Obi Wan is twitch. Yeah, Obi Wan's twitch. I don't think they're very sam and twitchy. Yeah, it's hard to lay them on there. Yeah, Anakin's got his, like, fucking leather Jedi robe. He thinks he's, like, so cool. Yeah, it is pretty cool. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he definitely is going for, like, that's the other thing is, like, it's not like, you know, when you see all the other Jedi, there's not, like, a variety, much variety of rows that you see. Like, they're generally all, like, cloth. They're whatever. And then he's like, you see this dude here is, like, he's wearing, like, a lot of black leather, but he's totally cool. Like, we don't need to worry about that. Probably, like, you know, especially in episode. [00:44:12] Speaker B: Three, he's, like, basically fucking. [00:44:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:15] Speaker B: Vader at that point. I mean, I guess they all have different colors. They have different styles. [00:44:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:44:21] Speaker B: He gets his first assignment. Palpatine's all excited for him. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Yeah, so they. Yeah, they get her. She's like, they're trying to get the info out of her, and then she gets killed by Jango Fett, and then he just sort of, like, flies off. [00:44:33] Speaker B: That's the funniest part, is he first of all hired a bounty hunter. Hired a bounty hunter. And then he also. The assassin gets assassinated. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah, he was just still playing. He was, like, the guy who was actually the more competent assassin doesn't just, like, take care of it from the beginning. He's like, I'll just get it. I'll get this other girl. Like, she's fine. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Is George Lucas said Asaj Ventress or. No, Aurora Singh. Aura Singh was going to be in episode two. So obviously, like, the Sam Wessel part was gonna be her, because she just. They showed episode one, like, watching the Padres RSA, and like, yeah. Why wasn't she in episode two? What are they doing? But she wasn't the quiet. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Why did they switch that out? I don't know. Maybe because they wanted. When did they know they were going to start doing the Clone wars as a show? Because it originally started as, like, the five minute thing on Cartoon Network a. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Couple years after episode three. [00:45:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:34] Speaker A: So maybe, I don't know if it would have been a thinking ahead enough of a process of, like, he just didn't want her to die. [00:45:41] Speaker C: October 3, 2008. So six years after attack of the club. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So, yeah, it was quite a while. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah, like, three years after that one. [00:45:50] Speaker C: Yeah, three years after that one. Yeah, that one. [00:45:52] Speaker B: What is it called? Revenge of the Sith, rise of the third. What we're doing next year. [00:45:58] Speaker A: Rise of the three revenge. So. [00:46:00] Speaker B: Yeah, then we still one of the. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Coolest lightsaber fights ever in the revenge of the sith, for sure. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Oh, it's fun. [00:46:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:07] Speaker A: And then we get a fun fight. [00:46:08] Speaker C: We get the padme feeling really iced out by Anakin while they're alone. It's a little. [00:46:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he's being creepy. [00:46:17] Speaker A: Yeah, he's just being creepy, dude. That's the thing about it. So that's, like, the thing that I'm like, dude, you could have done such a cool job with, like, a romance story in this if you didn't. Like, it's just written so goddamn creepy, man. Like, it's just weird. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it is weird. [00:46:33] Speaker C: He's not. He's not. He's not yet looking weird. He's not yet old and craggled enough for this to be. To be play. He could do. He's too much of a boy, so it comes out. Comes off. [00:46:44] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's just like. And it's like, oh, I've just been thinking about you for years, and now I'm like, I don't know. It just seems so. [00:46:53] Speaker C: If they were older, if they were much older, it would be not as creepy. [00:46:57] Speaker A: Well, I'm like, if you both the same age. Yeah. And you were, like, kind of, you know, had some adventures together. You're like, oh, cool. We have this sort of connection. We haven't seen each other in a couple years, but now we're thrown back into a scenario together. And you, like, had the, like, you just had a little bit of, oh, yeah, there's some interest. There's some, like, kind of butterfly type moments. And obviously he's been thinking about her and whatever. And you could have had, like, reciprocation in that, rather than it seeming like he has been thinking about her constantly in an obsessive way, and she's barely thought of him at all, you know? And then the first scene that they have together alone when they're like, you know, on naboo back, he was like, kisses her. And then she just, like, kisses him back. Like, it's. Yeah, she's into it, too. When there's been zero build to that or zero feels in that direction. It's just so weird, man. Especially for the. The entrance into this series, which is supposed to be the building of their relationship backstory, it was like, you should have just thought of this as your own mini fucking rom.com or something. And you have, like, a good meet cute and stuff, like, worked out, and it just feels so strange. [00:48:15] Speaker B: Well, he's going for the. He's obviously. He kept calling it that. George Lucas is trying to make a Titanic. He's like, that was really George Lucas, for better or worse. He follows trends. And, like, I mean, being in episode. [00:48:27] Speaker C: One, I'm looking at. Looking at Titanic right now, Johnny. A big ship with three stacks on the back. Hell, yeah. It's a Titanic. [00:48:34] Speaker B: It's Titanic. But he's like. He wanted this tragic love story, and it just, like, by making it. I don't know, it just is, like. Has this air of tragic news over. Because we know how it's gonna happen, but it makes it kind of, like, dramatically inert. [00:48:46] Speaker C: Yeah, it really does. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:48] Speaker C: But, you know, it's not dramatically inert, Johnny. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Dexter Jetster. [00:48:51] Speaker C: Dexter Jetster. [00:48:53] Speaker B: Because we're right there. That's the next scene. [00:48:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:57] Speaker B: And we got Dexter there, baby. And he's a diner cook, and he works in a 1950s diner, and he's my friend. [00:49:03] Speaker C: And, uh, Obi wan gets his. [00:49:06] Speaker A: What? [00:49:07] Speaker C: What's he getting? Is it coffee? Is it like a coffee shake? [00:49:10] Speaker B: Get some jawa juice. Doesn't he? [00:49:12] Speaker A: He's just getting some jawa juice. [00:49:14] Speaker B: Yeah, give me some jawa juice, honey. [00:49:16] Speaker A: Well, then he. Is it. Is it before that scene or after that scene that he goes to the archive? [00:49:24] Speaker B: It's after the scene. He goes to the archives because it's after that scene. [00:49:26] Speaker A: Yeah. The cloners. Damn good ones too. Yeah. [00:49:32] Speaker C: Their conversation was, like. The conversation, like, repeated itself. Like, they could have gotten away with, like, half of the back and forth because they repeated themselves. Do you ever notice that? [00:49:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like. This is a first draft, David. [00:49:48] Speaker C: Yeah. He's like. [00:49:49] Speaker A: He's. Is that guy the same alien race as Simon Pegg's character in the force awakens? [00:49:58] Speaker B: No, no. [00:50:00] Speaker A: Different one. Okay. I was trying to think. I was trying to remember if they were similar. [00:50:05] Speaker B: You mean uncar, plutt? [00:50:08] Speaker A: Uncar, plut. No, it's not one quarter portion. [00:50:12] Speaker B: No, Dexter gives all the portions away. He's very. He's. [00:50:16] Speaker A: Yeah, he's nice. [00:50:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Everyone loves Dex. He is. I don't know what species he is. I can look it up. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Goes to the archives, which is a cool, like, it's the first time you actually get to see the Jedi archives, which are, like, pretty wild and all just a bunch of hollow, you know, records and things like that. But then you get a classic following that. That's kind of cool, because you hear about is if they're. You don't hear about Sifo Diaz, until he actually gets to the cloner planet, Kamino. He's looking for the planet, and it's just been erased from the archives. And then he goes. You get a cool scene with, like, Yoda teaching the younglings and just being like, a real socratic method guy, you know, just asking questions. And then this kid shows up. Obi Wan, that seems so funny because it's like he comes to this conclusion of like, oh, yeah, maybe it was just a race. And you don't ever think of that before. It's like this. He's like, oh, yeah, no worries. Let's consider maybe this, uh, that old. [00:51:25] Speaker C: Lady says that if it wasn't in there, if it's not in there, it doesn't exist. [00:51:28] Speaker A: That's true. It doesn't exist. [00:51:29] Speaker B: She's a mean old lady. [00:51:31] Speaker C: Yes, she is. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Dexter Jetster is a besselisk. [00:51:35] Speaker A: A besselisk. [00:51:36] Speaker C: That's his. A bestselisk. And then, uh, r is, uh, waiting on Padme and Anakin while they're on the space bus. And the cookie cookie droids admonishes him, says, ain't no droids. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Get out of here. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Also a beef of mine that I picked up while watching this movie. But this is, I guess, jumping ahead a little bit is when they get finally to Tatooine and you see Owen Lars and his wife and interacting in a place that c three po is just, like, living. And then you just, like, have that thought that in fucking a new hope, he just doesn't recognize c three po at all. Like, he's just like, he. Whatever. The droid's mind can be white, but he just shows no reaction at all. He's like, whatever. [00:52:23] Speaker B: Or are you a protocol droid? [00:52:24] Speaker A: He's like, I'm like, motherfucker. You know this guy. [00:52:27] Speaker C: My internal processing took it as that was the experience, because you notice he's like, dingy and silver in this, but then in a new hope, he's bronzed. [00:52:38] Speaker A: He's gold plated gold. [00:52:40] Speaker C: And then that might be, like, the inciting incident for why he thinks that Han Solo doesn't recognize him with his red arm. And the Force awakens because he had already experienced that being a different color. His owner thought that he was the. [00:52:58] Speaker A: He can really throw people off. So. [00:53:01] Speaker C: So as much as I'm loath to say it, I think c three po was right about to say, it's me, c three po. [00:53:10] Speaker A: Don't you recognize me? [00:53:11] Speaker B: Even with the red arm? A good bit. That's a good bit. In the Force awakens with the red arm. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah, because. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Yeah, because, like, droids are janky all over the place. I would imagine that people get them confused all the time. Cause not all of them are as sassy as r. Who should have kept the red arm, you know, not to get. Not to get too blue too quick. Johnny. Bluer than a. Than a lightsaber here. But you know that they had to wipe our two. Probably because he probably witnessed things that he did not want to witness while. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Yeah, what's the thing? Yeah, what's the protocol on that? Do you think they're like, no, this. Hey, power down over there. Don't worry about. Don't record her. Keep track of anything you're gonna see. [00:53:58] Speaker C: But I also. I also need to be up and available because I might need to get an emergency message, and people will send it to you. [00:54:08] Speaker A: That whole bit. The whole thing about, like, when they go to. Although I will say, like, that shot and really any, like, wide shots of naboo are just, like, some of the coolest looking foot, like, planet footage of anything. It's one of those things where I was like, man, if I lived in that world and knew Naboo was a place and I was a Jedi or something, I'd be thinking, like, cool, I'm going to make my, you know, temple on Naboo there or something. Because that place is just awesome. The wildlife and the world of it just looks so cool. [00:54:40] Speaker C: The place. The place that they actually stay. Like that fucking lake house. I mean. God damn. [00:54:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:46] Speaker C: Also, she said that they would swim to that island every day. Jesus fucking Christ. That island is really fucking far away. If you get the way back in a day. Holy crap. [00:54:59] Speaker A: You know, also, you have to think, too, from the first movie when they're going through the oceans of Naboo, there's crazy ass creatures in that. There's, like, crazy, like, fish creatures and just giant things the size of submarines gonna eat your ass and stuff. And they're just swimming in it. Yeah, no worries. It's fine. [00:55:19] Speaker C: There's always, you know, watch out. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Uh, so, yeah, they get to Naboo. They kiss like we talked about. I do like that they have like, Naboo. I guess first they go to the first. You see CEO Bibble. Who's the badass? Like, like, uh, assistant guy. [00:55:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:36] Speaker B: He has a cool name. His name's Seal Bibble. It sounds like baby talk. [00:55:40] Speaker A: You know, the guy with the beer. [00:55:41] Speaker B: Yeah. See, old. [00:55:46] Speaker A: You must contact me. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, oh, the trade viceroy still is the leader of the trade federation. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:54] Speaker B: And where were the chancellor's ambassadors? Yeah, we meet the new queen. I guess. Naboo loves like, young girl queens. [00:56:01] Speaker C: Yeah. We learned that the queens have two conserved two terms and then they have to step down. [00:56:10] Speaker B: They almost amended their constitution to give her another. [00:56:12] Speaker C: I was about to say they almost pulled. They always pull the one of those. [00:56:17] Speaker A: That's true. [00:56:19] Speaker C: It kind of, kind of echoes. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Who's the dictator now? [00:56:22] Speaker C: Later. Yeah, kind of later when you know a certain. A certain papa pal teen loves a certain democracy. [00:56:31] Speaker A: Poppy, pal. [00:56:33] Speaker C: Papa, papa pal. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah. That's a. It's like, it is truly like a thing. You're like, is it just. Is it a naboo thing where there always is just a queen? Like, it's just all. They always just like a. Yet elect some, like, fucking 13 year old person and then abide by all their decisions. They're like, yeah, it's cool. [00:56:51] Speaker B: Yeah, why not? [00:56:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:52] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:56:53] Speaker C: You know what they say. [00:56:54] Speaker A: How do you even get up for election at that age of thing is like, wait, what? Where. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Who's the next person from the mouth of babes? You're right. [00:57:02] Speaker C: Yoda. Yoda. Yoda literally said that in the classroom. [00:57:06] Speaker B: That's right. [00:57:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, he did. [00:57:09] Speaker B: So they're making out, or about to make out. They're arguing on Tatooine. And we cut back to Obi Wan. This is still where the mystery is cooking. I'm still on board. I'm like, what's going on? [00:57:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, he's really going. He's doing. He's found Camino. He's gone there alone, which is just fucking water world. When he gets there, it's just an entire water planet, which is pretty wild. [00:57:31] Speaker B: It's like the opposite of Cloud city. [00:57:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just like a spire. [00:57:37] Speaker C: It's also white in the middle of the water. If these are the native species of kamino, you'd think that they would have built something under the water instead of over the water where it could get damaged. Right. [00:57:51] Speaker A: Well, I wonder if it's like, it's just the top that you're seeing is what's there, and the rest of it is under the water. And the top is just like how they interact with the people that essentially are their customers because they're the cloners of the world. [00:58:07] Speaker C: The galaxy has some tunnels because that's a. That's something in bad batch. Because the bad batch live on Camino. And I think. I think there's tunnels, but I think the majority of it is above water. [00:58:21] Speaker A: Oh, really? Yeah. [00:58:23] Speaker C: Wild. Because, like, they've got windows and shit fucking everywhere. Looks out on the rain. Because they spend a lot of time staring out the windows at the rain. See? [00:58:31] Speaker A: See, it does rain a lot. It seems like, watch the clone wars. [00:58:35] Speaker C: And the bad batch. Clone wars in the bad batch. [00:58:39] Speaker A: I might as well do it. I'm gonna probably end up just doing it. But it's, like, a cool enough city. It does kind of have just, like, a very. It does lend itself to that, like, noir feel of just, like, gumshoe walking in the rain. Gotta figure out, you know, what's going on. The big city. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. [00:58:59] Speaker C: But it. [00:59:00] Speaker A: But it is very strange. When we were, like, just talking about earlier, like, the. The fact that there is zero mention of the nature of clones as their own entities or own, you know, beings. It's just totally. Obi Wan is just pretty well cool with the fact he doesn't, like, seem to show any reaction. He's very much. I mean, that could also just be, like, you know, putting on a face of, like, you're here as this detective. You don't want to give anything away to this guy that you're, like, on a mission from the Jedi. That, because he. He does, like, essentially just straight play along with the fact of when he gets there, the guy is, oh, you must be sent by Master Sifo Diaz. And he's just like, oh, yeah, totally. What's the deal with Master Diaz did here? You know? Which is very cool. I was look, I did look up a whole deal on that guy after I watched it the last time, because I was just. The only time I'd ever heard his name was in this movie, you know, pretty stupid. [01:00:04] Speaker B: It should have been sidious. [01:00:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. I'm just like, man, if you. You're gonna do this whole thing where Count Dooku is your, like, sort of big bad of the movie until you kind of block. Blow that in the. I mean, I guess they show him a little bit in the end, but, like, mostly in the third one is where it's fully revealed. But it's. It does feel weird that you don't just make the guy who started this clone army, uh, Darth sidious or so originally, straight up, say it's Count Dooku. And then you'd be like, well, wait a minute. Why is Count Dooku doing this clone army? And it could just be like he was trying to just really make the biggest army possible. He's out here getting clones. He's getting, you know, droids. Like, he just amassing a massive, massive army, you know? [01:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, so originally in the script, it was Sid o dias, is what they said. But there was a typo. I'm not kidding. I'm not making this up. And George liked it, so they kept it as Sifo Dias. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Yes. [01:01:09] Speaker C: Hey. [01:01:10] Speaker A: Oh, man. [01:01:10] Speaker C: That's a great reason. This field that Anakin and Padme are sitting in is actually a really nice field. It's a little jarring how nice and actual fieldy this field is. [01:01:21] Speaker A: Well, but that's the thing is, like, there. That's the thing that annoys me about it, is because there's set pieces that when you see them, you're like, oh, man, this could be, like, a really good. Like, this part in the field is probably the height, for me, of the romantic, like, actual building. Yeah. I just think it's, like, the actual best part of the romance situation is they're like, oh, you're actually showing them on, like, a day. And they're, like, basically just, like, in this thing. They're having fun. They're joking around. He's doing, like, youthful, like, shenanigans with, like, the creatures and stuff. You're like, oh, he's not just like a, you know, a mindless Jedi thing, you know, being or anything. It's not just, like, lonely. The code and da da da da. You can see, like, you know, a person there. [01:02:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:02:11] Speaker A: And it's, like, actually good. But it's so weirdly misplaced. It seems, like, in the flow of how they set it up. [01:02:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it cuts to him, like, surfing on the back of this cow type being. What are they called? [01:02:29] Speaker A: It just looks like it's like a cow tick or something. Like, it looks like a tick kind of, because it just has, like, the giant, like, bulbous body, which is, like, it's very back heavy. Like, the back body. A bit of it goes up so high and fat. And it's got these, like, tiny, tiny legs and head on, like a tick out. [01:02:49] Speaker C: This Natalie Portman doing her best Julie Andrews. And the sound of music is pretty great, not gonna lie. [01:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's another. [01:02:57] Speaker C: That's another plot of the movie, though, Logan, is the. The destruction of Padme's clothes. She starts off with way more, way more clothing, and she gets a little bit less each time you see her. What the heck, dude? [01:03:10] Speaker A: The classic naboo attire. [01:03:13] Speaker C: Yeah, naboo. Athleisure wear at the end. [01:03:18] Speaker A: Athleisure. Where. Yeah, so they have the field scene with the giant chick creatures. Oh, and then it goes back to. It goes back to Kamino. And that's where Obi Wan gets to see Boba Fett and Django fetch. Yeah. Okay. He sees the armor, and then he's like, oh, yeah, totally. Not the guy that I definitely saw until that girl earlier. [01:03:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:45] Speaker A: Not going to give anything away. This whole bit is very cool of. [01:03:48] Speaker C: Like, you can see, especially, I want to know the back because of the window. Django Fett's apartment has the. [01:03:54] Speaker A: I want to know the back story, too. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I want to know the backstory, too, of, like, how did Jango Fett become, you know, how did he end up on Camino being the donor for DNA for this? All the clones that the. And is, is the rest of the product production on Camino, all clones of Django fed as well, or just the ones for the Republic army that Sifo Diaz created? Like, do they create other clone armies? Like, is this the image that you see of just, like, the babies in the pods and then the. The older clones getting raised and, like, getting trained and eating their meals and stuff? I'm like, is that all their clones, or is that just one section of the facility? And the cloners are actually, you know, they clone, like, different alien races for those armies and whatever, and it's all some kind of thing, or is it just all Django Fett blind, never see. [01:05:00] Speaker C: Any other clones ever? Yeah, I guess. I guess they only produce one kind at a time because, I mean, they couldn't have. [01:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:09] Speaker C: They couldn't have become cloners of the. Of the. The galaxy without previously, what is it, 10,000 or something? [01:05:18] Speaker A: So something like given a number. So they had to have done something like 10,000. [01:05:22] Speaker C: But I guess they only produce one model at a time. [01:05:25] Speaker A: Okay. [01:05:26] Speaker C: And this is actually the last. The last, you know. [01:05:31] Speaker A: Like, the Mandalorian. Is Jango Fett supposed to be straight up a Mandalorian? [01:05:37] Speaker B: No, he talks about that in Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett. He's not a Mandalorian. He ended up with the armor somehow. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Yeah. His dad just had it. Well, that's. I remember he said he inherited by. Right from his father, but I didn't remember if he. His dad was a Mandalorian at some point or anything. [01:05:54] Speaker B: He was not. [01:05:54] Speaker A: He was not. Okay. [01:05:56] Speaker B: He was not. Well, then we get the sexy scene where Padme's, where he feeds. [01:06:02] Speaker C: He feature this pear. He cuts the pear. [01:06:05] Speaker A: Oh, he forced. [01:06:07] Speaker C: Why would you cut a pair that way. Why would you. Why would you cut a pair that way? [01:06:12] Speaker A: Just straight across the top. No, in, you know, concern. Yeah. And then she. That's another thing I was talking about the clearly, uh, you know, digital method of this. You can. It's like, a very obvious that she bites nothing. And that's so weird. It's just like, it doesn't line up great. It's just like, oh, man. Okay. Like, you can just see her as an actress. They're just being like, okay, I'm just gonna mime a bite to nothing and trust that they're gonna be okay. They're. [01:06:46] Speaker C: Natalie Portman is amazing in this. [01:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah, she's working hard. She definitely is. Like, with what she has, it's definitely. It's just one of those things I feel like would be brutal as an actor in terms of, like, you're just sitting there on a green screen and you're acting at, like, tennis balls and shit just, like, half the time in one take. [01:07:07] Speaker B: Like, George looks like. [01:07:08] Speaker A: Yeah. She's like, cool, good. It's like, okay. Like, what? [01:07:13] Speaker B: But yes, either by the fire. And she's like, you can't. We can't do this. I'm a senator and you're a Jedi. [01:07:20] Speaker C: Yeah. Think of the scandal. [01:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And then it's like, immediate. Well, it's like, immediate short flash back to Kamino, and then it goes to Obi Wan giving them a message to, like, window and Yoda about this. Like, hey, there's this army here that's been building. None of you know anything about it. Like, that's why I'm like, this. Jedi Master Saif Odias was very, uh, stealthy in his thing, you know? I mean, he was just like, no one knew none of these. That's, like, a definite trend for the Jedi masters in the prequels is a general just like, zero knowledge, zero awareness, despite being supposedly, you know, a crew of people that are in tune with their senses and in tune with the force and stuff that's going on when it comes, like, issues, there's totally clueless, like, so dumb about it. It's just like, oh, man. It's such a. Such a trend when you're like, these are the guys. These are the best guys that are in this order right now. You're telling me. [01:08:30] Speaker B: Well, this hilarious of the scene, they're like. They're like, hmm, maybe we should let the Senate know. Our ability to use the force is diminished. And Yoda's like, no, no, no. Maybe we should let him know. [01:08:39] Speaker A: Maybe we don't do that. Like, yeah, he gets the dream of, like, his mom being prisoner and stuff. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:50] Speaker A: Wakes up all in a sweat. Sad about it. [01:08:55] Speaker B: I remember people giggling on opening night when he was sitting there naked. [01:08:59] Speaker A: Really? [01:09:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. Cuz it's. [01:09:03] Speaker B: It could be sexual. Shirtless, man. [01:09:07] Speaker A: People can't handle it. Shirtless, dude. And then it has the flash to where you have a sort of skirt. This scene was funny when I watched it back. The fight, I guess you would say, with Obi Wan and jFet, when, like, fucking Boba Fett gets on the. The guns and you see him shooting the guns of this starship at Obi Wan, and it's exploding. The. The effects looks like it's exploding all around him. And you can just see, like we were talking about earlier, like, the amount of space that you can move. And you see it looks like you and McGregor just like, ah, he's like, kind of jumping, like, no distance as this, like, exploding, you know, stuff is put around him. [01:09:47] Speaker B: He's just like, ah, like, it looks. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Like he's just sort of like falling over a foot or something, you know? It was so funny when I was. [01:09:55] Speaker B: Watching it, then he got. Kicks him out of the air. [01:09:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, he jumps, kicks him out of the air. They have that cool bit where he's attached to the tether and like, sliding down the. The slick surface within the rain. [01:10:09] Speaker B: That's pretty cool. [01:10:10] Speaker A: Fucks up his jetpack. You see, like, the missile fire from the jetpack for the first time. I remember thinking that was really cool in the theaters. [01:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it was cool. Like the django fat. Like, we were all hyped for it. Hit all the different. [01:10:22] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, everybody was into it. [01:10:23] Speaker B: Everyone loved Django Fett. He's a cool name. I like Tamir Morrison's great. [01:10:28] Speaker C: He's great. [01:10:30] Speaker A: He's all immediate. [01:10:32] Speaker C: Yeah, he's Captain Rex. [01:10:34] Speaker A: He. Does he do the voices in the clone war for them as well? [01:10:38] Speaker B: No, I think. [01:10:39] Speaker A: No, he doesn't. [01:10:40] Speaker B: There's a guy that does the Clone wars one. I can't remember his name. [01:10:42] Speaker C: Okay, but it's based off of tomorrow. Morris. [01:10:45] Speaker B: Yes, it sounds like him. Yeah. [01:10:47] Speaker A: Okay. [01:10:48] Speaker B: It's the same accent, but he just didn't do. He's unlike all the video games and stuff, though. Yeah, he does it as often as he can. Yeah. So they're fighting in the rain. Django gets away, but Obi Wan gets the old tracking device on him. Yeah, classic, classic. It's like the opposite. [01:11:03] Speaker C: I just read a Batman, a couple days ago, where he puts a tracker on a rat that somebody is calling toward them. He tracks the violin trackers. Classic. Classic detective. [01:11:15] Speaker A: It's like a big Star wars thing, too. Like, they're detective stuff. That shit no longer appears on our scopes. [01:11:21] Speaker B: It's like, classic. [01:11:22] Speaker A: Did you. Did you put the tracking device on board? Like, it's always a thing that they have established, you know, as a typical tactic, and then it does the cut immediately where, like, Anakin and may have just decided to go to Naboo, you know, and he's like, yeah, sorry, Tatooine. They decided to go to Tatooine from Naboo. And then you get to see Watto. [01:11:50] Speaker C: They've got the most fucking metropolis ass spaceship in the world. [01:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. They just come in on this, like, shiny. Like, it just looks like it's reflecting everything. [01:12:02] Speaker C: It's like the most. [01:12:03] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll keep a low profile. [01:12:06] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Shiny ass ship. [01:12:08] Speaker A: They're. [01:12:08] Speaker C: They're the only people in this. This taxi in this whole town. How did that not call attention? [01:12:13] Speaker A: I think nobody's just like, that's the thing is, like, any sort of, like, underground syndicate or anything. Why? Like, no other ship looks like that and shows up. Every underground group is going to be like, what's the deal with this? We got to find out immediately, you know? [01:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I like waddles hat. [01:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah, Watto does have a cool hat. [01:12:33] Speaker B: Metal hat. [01:12:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like, it's like a world war one trench helmet. [01:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a, you know, he's pretty impressive. Anakin. [01:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah, he's definitely, like, recognizes him after a point. [01:12:45] Speaker C: He see better days. [01:12:47] Speaker B: He's a little shaggy. [01:12:48] Speaker A: Yeah, he does look like he's, you know, lived a pretty hard life. [01:12:52] Speaker C: He doesn't, uh, he doesn't. He's not all the time. [01:12:54] Speaker A: He's prosperous. Another thing is, in this scene, they're just like, definitely, uh, you know, Anakin is, like, fairly chill enough anyway, about the fact of, like, oh, yeah, I just sold your mom. [01:13:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:07] Speaker A: And stuff. But it's chill because I sold it to a good guy. Like, he was a good guy. Yeah. [01:13:11] Speaker B: That's the thing. I wanted Klee glars buyer as a slave user as a slave and fall. [01:13:15] Speaker A: In love with her and then to. [01:13:19] Speaker B: Get her out of slavery. I would have guessed that. [01:13:22] Speaker A: But it's like, I would hope it's that one. But the way that they said it's, the scene unfolds, it definitely seems like he just sold her to this guy as a slave. But then he's like, oh, but I heard he freed her and married her. Okay, I guess, like, you know, I told you everybody. [01:13:42] Speaker C: Everybody is the worst. Everybody in Star wars is the worst, apparently. [01:13:46] Speaker B: Evidently. [01:13:47] Speaker A: I mean, there certainly is not much thought towards, like, slavery as a concept existing in the galaxy, and that's, like, a definitely still a thing from even the. The previous movie of the Phantom Menace is like, you have the Jedi there, and the Jedi have knowledge of slavery existing in the universe, and despite being a force definitely capable of enacting things about that, they just choose to not basically. I mean, it's kind of a weird concept, you know? [01:14:20] Speaker B: Like, yeah, the fact that he's like, and I didn't come here to free slaves. Like, really? You didn't? [01:14:27] Speaker A: Yeah. He's like, isn't that a thing Jedi should have gotten around to by this point, though, maybe, like, I know. And it's not at all mentioned on Tatooine in post prequels. So I'm like, at what, at some point did just, like, they just stopped mentioning or just slavery ceased existing. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Maybe it's just in most s ones, we're mainly over by most eisley for the originals. [01:14:51] Speaker A: That's true. It could be just, like, a localized thing. [01:14:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:55] Speaker A: I don't know. I do love in this next scene when you fly, when it follows back to Obi Wan in the chase, when he's put the tracker and he's followed in his ship with the little, like, hyperspace ring or whatever that he has on his ship as a connector. And you see this. This planet, in general, of Genosis, I think, is pretty cool. [01:15:20] Speaker C: Yeah, Genosis is pretty. [01:15:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:22] Speaker C: I also like the bombs that Django fett. [01:15:25] Speaker A: The bombs are very cool. Oh, yeah. Like the, like, sonic bomb. The sonic bombs. You remember you played blur. Yeah, Johnny. Yeah, yeah. It reminds me of the barge on blur where it was just, like, the warm, like, the circle blast out from you. It reminds me of that every time. [01:15:46] Speaker B: I love that game. [01:15:47] Speaker A: It was so good. Shout out, blur. I wish there was a sequel. I know. [01:15:52] Speaker B: I would have played many blurs. [01:15:55] Speaker C: Tatooine. [01:15:56] Speaker A: And this is a cool chase through the asteroid field for sure. [01:16:00] Speaker B: That's fun. Like, what? Oh, and Obi wants talking to his droid. [01:16:03] Speaker C: Yes. [01:16:03] Speaker B: Cute. [01:16:03] Speaker C: R four. [01:16:04] Speaker B: R four. [01:16:05] Speaker C: And then. And then they fake. They. They fake. They fake it. They fake having died as the classic asteroid. [01:16:14] Speaker A: If you just, like, land on an asteroid, you're, like, crawling out of the. [01:16:18] Speaker C: Thing and going, okay, yeah, it's fine. [01:16:21] Speaker A: It's cool. It's cool. Cool. [01:16:23] Speaker C: They just left. Let's make a loud fucking announcement to some people about where exactly. [01:16:32] Speaker A: Awful. [01:16:33] Speaker C: And then we jump to Tatooine because. Because Obi wan just begins, like, he just starts his. His recording and then it cuts away, you know, almost as if he wasn't finished recording that message, Johnny. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Almost as if. [01:16:47] Speaker C: And then we see. [01:16:49] Speaker A: And then you get the. That's where you get the droid to. Cause. [01:16:53] Speaker C: Yeah, there's the glorious reunion between you. [01:16:55] Speaker A: Flash to om. No, he. [01:16:57] Speaker B: Cuz, he. Cuz, he goes. He goes and does some shit before he gets Joydeco's. [01:17:01] Speaker C: Cuz. [01:17:01] Speaker A: Yeah, he. Yeah, he goes and sees, like, the meeting with sidious and. [01:17:09] Speaker B: Or dooku. [01:17:10] Speaker A: Or, I mean, not with Dooku and. [01:17:13] Speaker B: Like all the people. [01:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And the head of the Geonosians, I guess. [01:17:20] Speaker B: Yep. His name is poggle the lesser. [01:17:24] Speaker A: Poggle the lesser. [01:17:25] Speaker B: Which implies there's a poggle the greater somewhere. [01:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe his dad. His dad's poggle the greater. That's after the bit on Tatooine, though. Is that after. [01:17:34] Speaker C: Yeah, that's after his first. [01:17:36] Speaker A: You get the whole bit of Anakin. [01:17:38] Speaker B: Yeah, Anakin goes home. Yeah, I was just saying he got attacked by the joy Dekas yet? [01:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a minute till that is you. You have like the whole. This is the part that I was talking about where you definitely have the bit with r two and c three po. C three po. And just been working there with them at the farm. At the moisture farm. And then later it's like, no, we don't know who that is. We don't. I don't know. He's just some guy. He's some droid. [01:18:08] Speaker B: He's like, yeah, that joy that lived with us, that my stepbrother took years, literally. My step brother only saw one. Showed up with my. My dead stepmother, left with my droid that. I don't remember him well. [01:18:22] Speaker C: I mean, like, all the adventures that Anakin and R two go through in the clone wars and then yet, you know, at the beginning of years, Darth Vader. Oh, hey, that's my boy over there. That's my boy. [01:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, how many years is it supposed to be since the phantom menace? At this point? 1010 years. So, yeah, you've had this droid living with you for a literal decade, and you're just like, don't know. [01:18:51] Speaker C: We don't know how long he's been living at the moisture farm because he still. [01:18:54] Speaker B: True. [01:18:54] Speaker C: Have a shell at the end of. [01:18:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's true. Because he would have only arrived with. [01:18:59] Speaker C: The moment to shut him down for that one part. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah. But, yeah, he would have definitely only been a property of the mom, too, so he would have only been there, I guess, as long as she had been with Lars and stuff. [01:19:12] Speaker C: So maybe. I don't imagine willingly. At the same time, I bet it's that once he fell in love with Shmee and they needed more help, he was like, well, I can't. I feel too bad about slavery. I can't buy another person. So I'll buy a droid. So maybe that's. [01:19:32] Speaker B: Maybe I'll buy your droid back. [01:19:34] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I'll buy this droid. [01:19:35] Speaker B: Maybe she owns him. [01:19:37] Speaker A: That's true. [01:19:39] Speaker B: To help mom. [01:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah. He was first. Yeah. [01:19:42] Speaker B: You like him. He's a protocol droid to help mom. Then Anakin is like, I'm gonna go find my mother. [01:19:51] Speaker A: I'm gonna do it. [01:19:53] Speaker B: And so he goes, and that's a. [01:19:54] Speaker A: Brutal scene for sure. Like, once again, talking about. He does the cool, like, force jump from the cliff, finds the sand people encampment, and she's like, that's the thing about our. Do you. Did anyone play. Anyone play nights of the old Republic? [01:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:14] Speaker A: So, like, in that one, there's, like, this. I mean, I guess I. That's not technically canon anymore, but in that one, you have the interaction with the sand people in which they're depicted as, like, you know, just some people, and, you know, they. You get. You, like, can reason with them, and, you know, you don't have to kill the whole encampment. You, like, talk about whatever and this. But in this one, they're straight up depicted as they just kidnapped this woman and have been torturing her in, you. [01:20:41] Speaker C: Know, like, it's like she's tied to, like, a truss. [01:20:44] Speaker A: Yeah, she's definitely just been tortured in here. Like, her face is all cut up. She's, like, beat. [01:20:50] Speaker C: But to break up, to break up the. The hunt for shmi, we go to Obi Wan, seeing the council with this. This super cool dude in a, like, scuba suit. [01:21:05] Speaker B: Oh, that's a wat tambor, baby. [01:21:08] Speaker A: Watambor. [01:21:09] Speaker B: No. No relation to Jeffrey Tambor. [01:21:12] Speaker C: Maybe. [01:21:13] Speaker B: Maybe they are related. [01:21:14] Speaker A: This is a cool. Like, that's the thing. I'm like, Genoza with. With all the cool, like, genosis with all the cool, like, just, like, funnelly stuff. Like, there's a lot of cool. Yeah, because it's. [01:21:24] Speaker C: It's. [01:21:24] Speaker A: And, like, just set pieces here. [01:21:26] Speaker C: They're. They're bugs. They're ant. Like, bugs. So it's just like a hive. [01:21:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like a big ant. [01:21:31] Speaker C: Yeah, the whole place is just a big ant hill, which is dope. [01:21:34] Speaker B: Like turnouts or ants that fly. [01:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah, they're. And they. They. What's the deal with. So gnosis is also specifically where the trade federation had just been always building their droid. [01:21:51] Speaker B: They made droids there and they. Yeah, that's what they. They buy them for, the Geonosians. [01:21:55] Speaker A: Okay. [01:21:57] Speaker B: All these war makers, people that make droids, people make clones. [01:22:02] Speaker A: It's cells. [01:22:03] Speaker B: War cells don't join. And then we go back to Anakin. [01:22:07] Speaker C: Yeah. And he's saving. [01:22:08] Speaker B: I do like all the. I do, like all the collection of, like, weird aliens that are like, yeah, we'll join you. And there's the other one. Like, he's, like, messing with his scuba suit. Yeah, there's, like, count Choculas there. [01:22:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah, that's sand. What guys name is Sandhill? Like, what in the sand? What in the sandhill is going on around here? [01:22:26] Speaker A: It's a cool scene with that. And, like. Like you say, this is the part of the movie to me, that feels very, like. I don't know, like, it's like the part of the movie to me that, like, drags for a minute. It is like when the Obi Wan parts, I. Maybe it just is the editing of it, but it feels like it's so cha, cha, cha cha. It's like, choppy, choppy, choppy, choppy. That it feels like there's not quite enough given to any one of the areas to make it, like, feel more. It feels like there should have been less jump cuts, maybe, and then just have more to each scene that you gave it, you know? [01:23:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's interesting because it feels like. [01:23:14] Speaker A: It'S very much of, like, the downtime of the movie in a way that not a lot happens in moments that they do show, which could lend for a lot of stuff to happen, because. [01:23:28] Speaker C: In this time, you also, I think, the exact opposite. Just because if I had to sit through each of these scenes to play out by themselves before it went on to the next one, I would be bored out of my skull. At least the jumping around, like, forces a change in narrative to make it feel like you're going somewhere. So I think they might have tried getting through one story and then going to the next one, since they don't really cut up very well. And I think somebody was like, oh, no. Oh, no. It's too sleepy making. I think it's easier to get through. [01:24:00] Speaker A: I just think, like, especially. [01:24:03] Speaker C: Cause it keeps you. You have to refocus your attention. So it's like. It's actively making you do something. [01:24:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, like, I guess I'm just meaning, like, when it comes to scenes that, like, are involving characters that should have been more pivotal than they end up being. Like, you have Count Dooku introduced in this. In this as a character. You know, that he's. You hear these. Qui gon's mentor. You have the scene with him and Obi Wan where he just basically walks in to Obi Wan after they've captured him there with the droid of Kars when he's giving the message back, and then you see him just, like, in restraints, and Dooku basically just walks in and, like, doesn't even really try to disguise the fact that he's there for, you know, this separatist cause of overthrowing anything. He's just like, oh, yeah, Qui Gon would have joined me. And they don't. It's. It's just such a small scene. It feels like there could have been more, like, a fleshing out of his character. Some more, like, reasons given for his actions, for his, like, point of view. Like, he doesn't give any reason as his point of view. He just says basically, like, obi Wan, why don't you join me? Qui gon would have come on. Like, you know, it's like he doesn't try to explain him why he's doing it or anything much. It's just kind of. I'm just like, man, come on. Like, that's a myth. [01:25:31] Speaker C: I feel like, starts off that interaction, basically by apologizing for the poor quality of his intelligence. So he's trying to be like, hey, I'm still just on sabbatical. Like I have been for the past decade. You know, I'm doing what I'm supposed to, and, you know, sometimes I just get. I get lost in the sauce of the study in that I just don't get all the info I need. I think he. I think he's trying to play it off very well. I also just love Christopher Lee, so I'm. I'm going to assume that he needed to into it. [01:26:04] Speaker B: He's really good. [01:26:04] Speaker A: Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, Christopher Lee is awesome. I just think the writing for that character and everything for it didn't really give him as much to do as he could have done, you know? [01:26:14] Speaker C: Yeah, he could have. But, I mean, with what he did, he. [01:26:17] Speaker B: He. [01:26:17] Speaker C: He ate what he got, you know, regardless of how good. It was. [01:26:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He's. He's really, um. I don't know. He's just. He's like a classic trained theater actor. [01:26:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:27] Speaker B: Those are the people that really shines. He's just fucking good at McDermott. Yeah. When you get the scene where Anakin's crying. [01:26:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Back at the moisture farm. [01:26:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:38] Speaker A: And this scene's, like, very brutal, too, because he just, like, straight up confesses that he just, like, you know, genocide at a village. [01:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:47] Speaker C: She's like. Yeah. It's like she said. It's like he told her that. [01:26:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:51] Speaker C: You know, put a mouse trap in the basement. Or, like, the thing about this scene is funny. [01:26:58] Speaker A: It's like her reaction to. [01:26:59] Speaker B: It's like, it's human to be angry. It's like, basically what she says, I think. [01:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:27:09] Speaker C: It was a little more than anger of you. [01:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:12] Speaker C: And then here's where we get the one. [01:27:15] Speaker A: He's, like, specifically goes into detail that he killed the women and the children as well. [01:27:22] Speaker C: Daboo and athleisure. [01:27:23] Speaker A: Where. [01:27:23] Speaker C: Johnny Depoo and athleisure, where. [01:27:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I wonder what if? That'd be hilarious if in episode nine, when Ray's bringing her lightsaber in, the moisture farmer, she actually digs up Shimmy's body, who's this wrapped in this towel. A lot of stuff buried in that moisture farm. [01:27:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:27:42] Speaker B: I bet she went back to the place that Luke hated the most to bury her lightsaber. [01:27:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, man. Yeah. [01:27:50] Speaker C: So we get the pivotal. The jar jar changes the course of the galaxy. Johnny. [01:27:56] Speaker A: Oh, dude. Oh, yeah. [01:27:57] Speaker B: That's after we get Obiwan's message, though, that we were talking about. But, yeah, we get the message, and then jar jar changes the course of the galaxy. By voting for calling into the emperor Palpatine powers, he made promises to get back. [01:28:12] Speaker C: I promise I'll give it back. [01:28:14] Speaker A: It's cool. I promise I'll give it back. Oh, please. Just grant me these, uh, emergency, special. Massive amount of power. [01:28:21] Speaker B: That's always how it works, right? They always give it back. [01:28:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm totally. It's cool, though. I'm just trying to do good. And then, we mean, palpatine doesn't do great work. That's the thing about all it is. Like, palpatine is a true political genius, and he's always making these moves when, like, you know, he gets Amidala out of the city first, and then he's like, oh, this representative guy who's, like, really, definitely smart. For sure. It's gonna just, like, someone I can trick into doing exactly what I want them to do. Like, he is a master manipulator. [01:28:56] Speaker C: Yeah, he is. [01:28:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. 100%. He just, like, I love it when he's sitting there talking with his. His advisor. He's like, if only Senator Amidala were here. He really lays it on thick. [01:29:07] Speaker A: Yeah. He was like, hmm. And then you get the scene with Yoda and Windu, like, watching it happen. They're, like, right there. [01:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:16] Speaker C: You know, they're. They're like the. They're like a watchu. The watcher. They cannot interfere unless, for some reason, they've deemed it that. Oh, yeah, this one time, they can interfere. [01:29:24] Speaker B: It just, like, feels like so much happens. It's like this. It's like this mystery movie, and then it butts up into this whole war thing, and the whole mystery. Things just drop. [01:29:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just dropped. Like, it just doesn't. [01:29:37] Speaker B: Everything. [01:29:37] Speaker A: Conversions, mystery. [01:29:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just solved, basically. Like, they're just like, oh, but not really. [01:29:43] Speaker B: Is this what they thought it was? Is Count Dooku? [01:29:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:47] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:29:47] Speaker C: Like, like, the. They answered it in the first. The first minute of the movie, basically. [01:29:53] Speaker B: Yeah, in the. In the opening. [01:29:55] Speaker A: Well, the other thing is, like, they don't ever even tie back to the thing that they bring up in the very end of the first movie, when they're like, when it's Yoda and Windu, and it's like, as always, it's a master and apprentice. But which was destroyed, the master or the apprentice? They don't even, like, try to suppose that Darth Maul is the apprentice of Dooku. They don't even talk about that as a thing. They just sort of forget about Darth Maul. And they're just like, oh, Dooku, turns out, was a lord of the Sith. They don't even act like he was working for someone else for a minute. It's just kind of like, I don't know. It's just like a weird disconnect of. They don't even act like, oh, he's the new apprentice. They're just like, oh, it must have just been dooku. But they don't even really say that. It's like, they just suppose it. You sort of can infer that. They suppose that by how the action plays out. Yeah, it does make for, like, a cool action climax, for sure. Like, you have. [01:30:59] Speaker C: Well, the problem is, there's so many climax in here, I would have considered the fucking Looney tunes trek through the droid factory. A perfectly acceptable smelting. [01:31:11] Speaker A: Perfect. [01:31:12] Speaker B: That's so weird. That's, like, so weird that that's in there. This is already a kind of a long movie. [01:31:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:31:18] Speaker B: It doesn't really need that. [01:31:20] Speaker A: No, it's doesn't, that doesn't do anything. It's just a long, drawn out trek of. To them getting, like, you literally, they're just gonna get captured. [01:31:30] Speaker B: Oh, that's fine. It's whack. I mean, you see r two fly. [01:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:34] Speaker B: It's just funny that, like, already, like, it's two hour, 20 minutes plus movie and it's just like, all right, let's have a five minute thing here. [01:31:42] Speaker C: We get the best, the best insult of the movie for a mechanic. Sure do seem to do a lot of thinking. [01:31:50] Speaker A: The cool one of my favorite scenes is the just bit also when they are being let out and into the actual arena there, like, after that, once they've been captured. And that's why I say it's such a weird love story situation is like, you could have had this whole build to this final moment of like, hey, we're going to about to die. Like, let's actually, like, everything builds and then they have that kiss, but it's like, well, you already had that weird, awkward kiss before. So, like, it's like, yeah, okay. But, like, I don't know, it's just the, the way that the love story was handled in this. When I was watching it this second time or this most recent time through anyways, uh, I was just like, it really bugged me. [01:32:32] Speaker B: I don't. [01:32:32] Speaker A: It was the one thing that stood out to me most about it. I was like, man, this is a really fucking botched, like, love story plot line here. It was super annoying to me. [01:32:42] Speaker C: And, like, like, because it is such. [01:32:44] Speaker A: A great climax to one right there when you're like, we're being let out on this chariot to our execution, like, whatever, you know, this is it. Who cares about, like, structure and pretense of the Jedi order and whatever is just like, that whole bit is very cool. I just think it was a whole bunch of botched nonsense leading up to it. [01:33:06] Speaker C: Well, like, the Dexter Jetster conversation was like, I said that they just repeated themselves. They said the same thing twice. Yeah, it's like they're doing the same things twice. Like, it feels almost as if the intent was to have this movie be two movies. And so you could have that callback in the second movie from the first part of the movie, but then they just smushed it together and forgot to sand over the bits. That's kind of what it feels like to be. [01:33:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Like you said exactly earlier, John is like. Definitely feels like a first draft. [01:33:36] Speaker C: Like, if it was planned to go on two VHS tapes, you could have it. So that way you could just watch the second. You could just watch the first VHS or the second vhs and be satisfied either way. Or you could watch it all together. [01:33:48] Speaker A: This is like a, just a super dope scene that you have here with the, you know, arena. Everyone's sitting around watching it. It's very coliseum. Yeah, I love the arena. [01:34:01] Speaker C: Yeah, you get to see more. More aliens. They got these beasts, man. These beasts. [01:34:06] Speaker A: The beasts are very cool. [01:34:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:34:09] Speaker A: You got like, sort of like. [01:34:10] Speaker B: So the green one is acklay. The cat is a nexu, and then the bull is a reek. [01:34:16] Speaker A: Reek. Yeah, the woods. The spider one is what you said. [01:34:20] Speaker B: Ackle. [01:34:20] Speaker A: Like the green acklay. The spider, praying mantis things. Definitely the scariest. [01:34:25] Speaker C: What was the cat one like? [01:34:27] Speaker B: Nexu. [01:34:27] Speaker C: Nexu. I like, I like any Xu nexu. Is that. [01:34:32] Speaker A: It's. [01:34:32] Speaker C: Is that its name or its species name? [01:34:34] Speaker B: Species. [01:34:35] Speaker C: Okay. Hey, man, I would like. I would try to pet that. I would try to pet that kitty. [01:34:40] Speaker B: Try. [01:34:41] Speaker A: It'd be dope. If you raise one from like a little baby, it'd be a super badass, like Ranger summon. Familiar kind of thing, you know. [01:34:51] Speaker C: I like, Jaco and Boba are watching up there with the fucking newt, gunray, Count Dooku. [01:35:01] Speaker B: They're all just chilling. [01:35:02] Speaker C: It's just, it's just so wild. He looks so much better than the beasts that they're fighting. The guy who plays new Gunray. Great exaggerated motion shooter or something. [01:35:15] Speaker A: Oh, something, yeah. The riding the creatures. So dope in this them. Like, that's a really cool. [01:35:22] Speaker B: From this point on, it's pretty great. [01:35:24] Speaker A: It's great. [01:35:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:35:25] Speaker A: The end of the movie here is awesome. [01:35:27] Speaker B: But like, it has nothing to do with the rest of the movie. It's just like, okay, now we're here. [01:35:30] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:35:31] Speaker A: It's like, now we have to have some cool Star Wars Jedi stuff happening, you know, battle wise. [01:35:38] Speaker B: And it just makes, because you don't get a good conclusion to the mystery. It just makes it, when you're watching it again, just seem like, okay, I know this is. [01:35:48] Speaker A: Wait, what? [01:35:49] Speaker B: Yeah, let's go, let's go. [01:35:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:35:51] Speaker B: The battle in the arena is great. Another zeitgeist. I mean, gladiator was very popular at this time, so. Yeah, George Lucas knows what's up? The Zeitgeist. [01:35:59] Speaker A: That's so wild when you think. When you mention all those things, you know, it's like you can clearly tell he's just trying to, like, almost just like, rip scenes from popular culture at the time. [01:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:13] Speaker A: Which makes me interested to think about to, like, think back of the original trilogy and, you know, what essentially were the more popular things going on at that time. And if there is also similar connections to that, I mean, I mean, eighties. [01:36:28] Speaker B: Like, he has, like, Billy Dee Williams in there for coolness factor. [01:36:32] Speaker C: The indoor was supposed to be a planet of wookiees, but cute animal puppets were trending well, so they changed them to ewoks. My oath manager never lets us forget how upset he was about it not being a Wookiee planet. [01:36:52] Speaker B: Which we eventually upset he did in episode three. [01:36:55] Speaker C: Yeah. And don't you mean in the Star Wars Christmas special? [01:36:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:36:59] Speaker B: I guess that's the first time I see it. Yeah, it's true. I forget. I forget. Yeah, I mean, the end of this movie's pretty dope. And Allie Portman gets her midriff ripped off. [01:37:09] Speaker C: Yeah, that was while you were gone. [01:37:11] Speaker B: Bonk. [01:37:12] Speaker C: That's what I was talking to Logan about, is one of the plots of this movie is removing clothing from Natalie Portman because each scene she has less clothing on from the beginning all the way up until the end, pretty much. And then we get Kit Fisto and Flo Koon and. Oh, shit, I forget the kit Fisto. [01:37:35] Speaker A: One of the greatest names. I always thought I was like, oh. [01:37:38] Speaker B: My God, George Lucas has come up with some great names. [01:37:41] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, some great names. Savage. [01:37:44] Speaker A: But this is one of the coolest, just this is one of the coolest, like, moments I always. Because it's like the only moment in any of the films that you ever see, like, the actual mobilization of the Jedi order to any extent. Like, you see such an amount of Jedi just show up here. [01:38:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but the problem is there's the background going, like, moving their arms around. They're not doing anything cool. [01:38:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:38:09] Speaker B: Like, half of them looking stupid, but. [01:38:12] Speaker C: So in clone wars, you get a hell, you get a lot of that. And each one of them is animated as fuck. [01:38:18] Speaker A: Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, it seems to me that, like, it's very. It's, like, cool that you see, like, a number of them show up with the. [01:38:26] Speaker C: With the clank, but it's like c three pos body and c three pos head on a clanker body. [01:38:31] Speaker A: They. They do a good job of, like, showing the arrival of the Jedi initially, but then it's like, once it moves on to the larger clone battle, and it's just like, you know, clones versus the droid army, you kind of, like, the Jedi, like, disappear. Like, it's like the Jedi only show up in this context of the Colosseum fight. And then when you're seeing them rolling over, like, the dunes, and it's just like, you know, ships flying with clone troopers blowing up, rolling, you know, weapon mounts and things like that, the Jedi presence basically just disappears. Like, you don't really even see them out there, which is kind of weird. [01:39:15] Speaker C: They just hang out in the choppers, going from the front line to the forward intelligence. [01:39:21] Speaker A: You see Yoda. Yeah. It's like, yoda's the only one out there being, like, hitting Don's favorite line there, uh, around the survivors a perimeter create. [01:39:31] Speaker B: Yep. [01:39:32] Speaker A: But other than that, it's like, the only Jedi you see is, like, the pursuit of, uh, dooku across the dunes. [01:39:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:39:40] Speaker A: Uh, with Obi wan and Anakin there. [01:39:43] Speaker B: I always loved, uh, basically just saying, this party's over. [01:39:46] Speaker A: Yeah, right there. This coming out immediately. [01:39:49] Speaker C: There's John. John Williams outdoes himself on this one, Johnny. There's a. There's a little bit of. There's a little bit of hook in the score. There's a little bit of homologous in the score. It's like. It's like John Williams was also pulling late motifs from popular things he'd made and put it into this film. [01:40:06] Speaker B: He's always the mvp of these things. [01:40:08] Speaker C: It's fun. And it's, like, just off enough that it's kind of like he plagiarized himself. It's fun. It's fun. I had a hell of a fun time just listening to the music. [01:40:17] Speaker B: Yeah, he does a good job. [01:40:18] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah, I mean, this was the first I remember, soundtrack of the Star wars that I had. I remember that was the thing that I got in this moot from this, because the first one, I got a journal. I remember going to Borders books after we saw the film, and getting there was they had all the Star wars merch there, and I got, like, a qui Gon Jinn journal. [01:40:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:40:40] Speaker A: And in this one, I remember it was like, I saw the soundtrack. I was like, oh, I'm gonna get that. I remember listening in my room on my first, like, for, you know, situation, like, back at home, just, like, putting in the. The Star Wars Episode two soundtrack and listening to the whole thing. [01:40:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I heard that. [01:40:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:41:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess that was like a rite of passage. You had to get a little boombox for your room. [01:41:03] Speaker C: Yeah, you did. [01:41:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Like your own personal thing. You're like, it's my own thing here. [01:41:07] Speaker C: Don't forget that we have kit Fisto to thank for saving c three po, because instead of just with his lightsaber, he just threw a. Threw another forces in, another clanker on top of him. [01:41:19] Speaker B: And he smiles. We love his smile. Yeah, he's a happy Jedi. [01:41:23] Speaker C: And R pulls his head off. [01:41:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Starts dragging him around. He just, like, shoots him and drags it. Yeah, it's a cool, like, scene. The actual scenes. I mean, while you can tell, it's, like, definitely all computer generated with the clones and the, you know, droids after that, when they're, like, walking across there and you see, like, basically battle lines with dust and stuff and you see massive amounts of laser fire and everything going back and forth. It's a really cool looking scene. [01:41:55] Speaker C: Yeah, it is. Especially when they're on the dirt and stuff. [01:41:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:59] Speaker B: I love the gunship. [01:42:00] Speaker A: Dooku's got this dope. Yeah, the gunships look so. [01:42:03] Speaker B: Make such cool noises. The hell. [01:42:07] Speaker A: You know what? [01:42:07] Speaker C: You know what? You get a lot of gunships in Johnny Clone wars. If this is. If this is what it took to get you to watch Clone wars, it was worth it. [01:42:18] Speaker A: Dooku Speeder is very cool here, too, at the end. Yeah. [01:42:22] Speaker B: He just, like, runs away, but they fall. [01:42:24] Speaker C: It's like. [01:42:25] Speaker B: It's like a family gets knocked off. [01:42:26] Speaker C: It's like a fucking space mope gets, like. He's one of those. Those no good teens hanging out with their mod scooters in Mos Eisley in. [01:42:36] Speaker B: Book of Boba Fett. [01:42:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude, it's very. [01:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah, the. [01:42:42] Speaker C: That's what Dooku's speeder, steampunk teens. [01:42:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:46] Speaker C: And then, you know, they've got the. The Death Star plans that they. They're like, oh, shit, we better take these somewhere else. [01:42:53] Speaker B: I'll take them, he says. [01:42:54] Speaker C: And in the second episode of clone wars that I just watched, they had. They built an ion cannon that. That they tested for the first time, and Count Dooku was testing it. [01:43:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:43:06] Speaker C: So I guess that was a precursor to making sure they got their big, big laser weapons going, and I just. [01:43:17] Speaker B: Shoot the big old ball out of the sky. [01:43:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:43:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. When they bring it down with just, like, multiple. Multiple levels of fire, it looks like on the gunships, it's almost like mini Death Star blast from those little balls. The gunners are in. [01:43:33] Speaker B: Definitely a little. I love those. [01:43:36] Speaker C: Yeah, they got the little, like, little walking crab guys. Kip Fisto again. Hell, yeah. [01:43:43] Speaker A: And then padme, he dies in the 66. Yeah. He's not one of the ones that mace Windu brings to fight. Yes. So he gets killed by the emperor there. [01:43:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Seconds. He's just like, blah. [01:43:57] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [01:43:58] Speaker B: He takes them out. [01:43:59] Speaker C: They got those big, got those big wheel things that they totally. They totally copied these big wheel things for those Jurassic park movies, didn't they, Johnny? [01:44:07] Speaker A: Huh? It does look a lot similar, these. [01:44:10] Speaker C: Big one wheel things. Isn't there a big one wheel thing in one of the newer Jurassic park movies? [01:44:14] Speaker B: No, it's like a gyroscope thing. [01:44:16] Speaker A: It's just like a ball. Yeah, it's just like a ball thing in Jurassic park. [01:44:20] Speaker C: What am I thinking of then? [01:44:22] Speaker B: Maybe I'll get a big ball. [01:44:23] Speaker A: It's the. The doesn't Obiwan or general. It's like General Grievous's thing in the third is, like, hit. He has, like, a wheel bike. Yeah, that's kind of more similar. [01:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah, they get the duel. [01:44:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:38] Speaker A: This is a cool duel. The confrontation moment here. Yeah. [01:44:41] Speaker B: I like the duel. It's nice. I mean, there's only so many things you can do after duel. The face, you can go bigger, which they know they're saving for episode three, the third one. Yeah, you got a pick. And this is like a kind of more subdued personal fight, but it works pretty well. [01:44:56] Speaker A: The old Anakin showing, like, his, like, you know, youth and just, you know, lack of tactical thought, just rushing straight in. [01:45:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:07] Speaker A: This is, I remember thinking was also the big deal about this movie was like, everybody was talking about how Dooku's lightsaber looked. It was so cool. Like, shape differently than everyone else. [01:45:17] Speaker B: I like his fighting style, too. He's almost like fencer. [01:45:20] Speaker A: His fighting style is very cool. I looked up, do you know the guy who, you see him in this movie in the Jedi council shot, and he's like a snake. Jedi oppo Rancisis. Yeah. His lightsaber is also supposedly the same kind of Adil as Dooku's. Like, it's. It's also like a curve thing, except it almost has, like, it almost has, like, a curve with the whole, you know how the, uh, the inquisitor lightsabers have, like, a. The circle around it? His has, like, a half thing on the bottom, but it's got the curve, like, handle where it starts from. That looked pretty cool. I remember thinking. I was like, damn, that would be cool. To see. I want to see a snake Jedi fight. Apparently he is in also to bring it back around to David's points, the Clone wars pretty heavily. [01:46:12] Speaker C: So Masterrencis. So Count Dooku. Count Dooku escapes geonosis on his Bajoran light ship taken straight from deep space nine. [01:46:23] Speaker A: Pretty cool ship. [01:46:23] Speaker C: It's a pretty cool ship. [01:46:25] Speaker A: Does, like, in this battle, it's very. Just this is. I remember thinking, too, when I saw this battle that it was very, very one sided. Like, you don't really. When it's versus Obi Wan and Anakin, it's just like kind of just a. It's almost just like a sparring session for him. He really does just school them super hard. [01:46:45] Speaker C: It's like what Johnny and I recently read in issue 16 of Spawn with Jason Nguyen. Just like Steven seagaling with his beer gut being like, ah, you ninjas. You're not worth. You're not worth what I pay you for. So get out. Get out. [01:47:03] Speaker A: Yeah, he just blasts him up here. Like the Obi Wan is a little bit competitive when it's just one on one for a bit, but then he gets like, kakao. He gets him right in the arm and the leg. He gets taken out of the fight, like, yeah, basically. [01:47:20] Speaker C: Not even. Not even, like for good. Like, he's not. He's not worth killing at this point. So it's also like an ego blow. [01:47:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:47:28] Speaker C: Dooku. Anakin with the cool double as he does anakin. Right. Because he disarms Anakin much more than he disarms kenobi, literally and figuratively. [01:47:42] Speaker A: Anakin does the cool dual wield style for a quick second, which was, I also remember thinking was fucking awesome because up until that point in stars, you only ever see one saber versus one saber, except for the duel of the face where you see two versus the. The double bladed. Yeah, but you never get to see somebody wielding two lightsabers, you know? And I remember thinking that was very cool. [01:48:06] Speaker B: Yeah, Anakin does it. Yeah. [01:48:08] Speaker A: And then he gets his arm sliced super hard, and he's just immediately out. [01:48:13] Speaker B: He turns into a worm. [01:48:15] Speaker A: Yeah. It's funny, the. The look on Dooku's face right after that. He's very, like, sad looking. Like, I. I remember when I saw that, I was like, what is he? Like? Kind of like, I was thinking, what is that reaction? Like, is he sad? Because he sort of still, a part of him was kind of still a Jedi at that point, you know, or what? But I do remember thinking also when then Yoda shows up right after that you can tell there is a little bit of, like, you know, in his face. He was like, okay, before. But then Yoda shows up, and he's like, oh, God damn it. Like. [01:49:00] Speaker C: You see, you see how good this guy fights? [01:49:01] Speaker A: Might be. [01:49:03] Speaker C: He's. Christopher Lee is an old man. He doesn't want to fight this fucking pinball of a little green guy. [01:49:13] Speaker A: Well, it's cool. You see Yoda's, like, force command here, because even though he hits him with the, like, Dooku hits him with the line, like, it seems are, you know, the control of the force is, you know, equal, basically. But then you watch the senior, like, I don't know how equal it is. It looks pretty much to me that, like, you are doing a little bit extra to try to have these things happen. And then Yoda is just like, all right. When he just kind of grabs it and throws it like it's nothing, you know? You see how I remember the scene where he just takes the. He just absorbs the lightning there, I remember thinking was so cool, just straight in his hand with the force. [01:49:50] Speaker B: Never seen him do that before. Yeah, I was like an Obi wan absorbed it with his lightsaber. [01:49:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. That was always master apprentice thing. Since Yoda was, or since Yuku is Yoda's apprentice. And, you know, this. This line of, this line of masters, apprentices is not. Not so good. We got Yoda to count Dooku, count Dooku to qui gon, qui go, qui gon. To Kenobi. Kenobi to Anakin. [01:50:17] Speaker B: And Anakin becomes Darth Vader. [01:50:18] Speaker C: Yeah, and Anakin to Ahsoka. And Ahsoka is probably the best of them all because she never. She got rejected by the Jedi and. [01:50:25] Speaker A: Was like, basically, you know. Yeah. She just, like, abandons the order, basically. [01:50:30] Speaker C: What a terrible. What a terrible line. I mean, I guess. I guess you could be. [01:50:34] Speaker A: She is more like an o. She is more like a qui gon type vein of a Jedi. Like, I'm just going to use my own judgment with, like, the thing knowledge and the beliefs I have about the Jedi stuff and kind of do my own thing with it. [01:50:47] Speaker C: Either. Either that, or it's an attempt to say that look at how different each apprentice comes from each master. Like, no matter how good the master is a la qui gonna. There will still be some errors that your kenobi's will make. And no matter how good of a master Yoda was, he still is the one who taught Count Dooku everything he knew. But Count Dooku, no matter how evil he was still created a qui gon. So, you know, I guess it's the balance. It's the balance. Oh, my God, Johnny. It's in all things, the forces. [01:51:17] Speaker B: Indeed it is. [01:51:18] Speaker C: There's a lot of philosophy in this. Episode two, attack of the Clones here, Johnny. [01:51:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:51:23] Speaker C: Yeah. That's what it feels like to me. I think. I think George Lucas had a message that he wanted to get across about a force that goes through all things. [01:51:32] Speaker B: I think you want to get a message across that the Iraq war is bad. [01:51:38] Speaker A: That was why he's like, we got to take it back to a desert planet. [01:51:43] Speaker B: Yep. Well, we got. You get the little revelation. That's shocking no one. The Darth sidious is behind this. [01:51:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:51:52] Speaker B: He's just like, what up? [01:51:53] Speaker A: Except not really. That's the thing, is, like, you only when you bring it back to, like, your. Your comment earlier about the. The plot of the noir getting just, like, lost, it's like, only the audience is brought in onto the fact that, like, oh, Darth Sidious is the bad guy. [01:52:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:52:13] Speaker A: Like, you don't. The Jedi. There's no, like, inkling of a following of that. You know? It's that there's still just like, oh, it must be dooku, I guess. Well, that's. That's. [01:52:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that. [01:52:24] Speaker C: That out. That acts kind of as plot armor for armor for. For sidious here, especially throughout the Clone wars, because then. Because then, you know, most of the. The loyalists. Is that what we're calling them? Loyalists? Oh, republicans. Oh, God damn. What are they called? [01:52:45] Speaker B: They republic people? I don't know. [01:52:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. What do you call them? Shit, where was I going with this? [01:52:53] Speaker A: The. [01:52:54] Speaker C: Nope, nope, I lost it. Shit. I was all excited about it, and I lost it. Boo boo. [01:53:01] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much the end of the movie. And then, like, fucking Yoda's like, oh, the Clone wars have begun. He cries. They like the triumph of the will. [01:53:07] Speaker C: Oh, that's what I was gonna say. So that way, the loyalists, Republicans, they think that dooku is the big bad. So that way, when they get rid of dooku, but everything is still bad, it's like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. That's what. [01:53:21] Speaker A: Wait a minute, though. [01:53:22] Speaker C: So keep insidious a secret. [01:53:26] Speaker A: It's very funny, too, because they don't even, like, attempt to disguise the fact of the thing that we all know is, like, that it's Chancellor Palpatine. You know, they're like, he's sort of got a. This is even worse than people. [01:53:40] Speaker C: Like, how did they not know Clark Kent was Superman. [01:53:43] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like he's sort of kind of behind a cowl of his hood, like, sounds the same, basically. [01:53:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:50] Speaker A: But then, yeah, you don't really get, like. I guess that's the other thing about this being like the, you know, attack of the clones. I guess it is. You see the literal attack of some clones, but for it to be like the movie of, you know, when you hear about the Clone wars in the original trilogy, you don't really ever, in the film anyway, get to see the Clone wars per se, you know, the. [01:54:18] Speaker B: First and last battle of them, basically. [01:54:20] Speaker C: Well, especially because the clones. The clones don't attack until the third movie with order 66. I'd call that the attack of the Clones. [01:54:30] Speaker A: The attack of the clones. [01:54:31] Speaker C: We get to see, we gonna see Anakin's 1st. 1st robotic hand and R Po are first time legal witnesses to this marriage. [01:54:43] Speaker A: Yeah. The secret marriage. [01:54:46] Speaker B: And then you get the. [01:54:46] Speaker A: You see a shitload of clones. You see the first, like, you know, star destroyer image here. [01:54:52] Speaker B: Yep. Triumph of the will, basically. [01:54:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:54:55] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [01:54:56] Speaker B: And then it does the WHOOP and does the circle out. [01:54:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:54:59] Speaker B: Directed by George Lucas. [01:55:03] Speaker C: This, uh, the balcony where they get married is beautiful. That, uh, the lens flare from the sun there. Oh, man, it's great. It's great stuff. [01:55:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. Palpatine looking all sinister on the balcony. He's like, hey, it's all working out as I plan. [01:55:22] Speaker C: Executive producer. [01:55:23] Speaker B: That's the Star War. [01:55:24] Speaker C: That is the war of the Stars. Well, Johnny, now that we've covered this here second episode of Star wars, I'd say we need to rate ourselves some clones. [01:55:36] Speaker B: It's time to rate the clones. [01:55:40] Speaker A: Rate them. [01:55:41] Speaker C: So who's your favorite clone? [01:55:44] Speaker B: Commander Cody. [01:55:48] Speaker C: Poor choice. [01:55:49] Speaker B: We got Star Wars Episode two, a movie I saw like, six times in the theaters. I have a complicated relationship with ship with it. I like parts of it. It's also very frustrating in parts of it. Are we doing out of five? [01:56:01] Speaker C: Yeah, we'll do it out of five. [01:56:02] Speaker B: I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it three out of five. [01:56:04] Speaker C: Three out of five. [01:56:05] Speaker B: What three? Three out of five. Three out of five. Dexter jester's arms. [01:56:17] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. Yeah. Do you want to go second, or do you want to go last? Logan? [01:56:23] Speaker A: I'll go last. I'm still trying to think of what I'm going to give it. Awesome. [01:56:26] Speaker C: So I literally have seen this movie twice. I saw it once in the theaters and once in preparation for this, and I remember thinking it was okay in the theaters. Like, I wasn't blown away. It took me a while to get, like, into the headspace of absorbing the Star wars knowledge again. I think after once the. I don't know what it was, but just something in my brain shut off from Star wars, like, absorbing Star wars knowledge for a few years. So I thought it was nothing special, but I didn't hate it, obviously. I've grown up on the ironic parody of it online, you know? [01:57:13] Speaker B: Yes, it's. [01:57:13] Speaker C: It's there. It's part of the Internet now. But the second time watching it, I mean, like, I took it for what it was. It's basically a cartoon. I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it three and a half kaminoans. Cause they. They look like Q tips, and it's kind of fun. [01:57:33] Speaker B: They do look like Q tips. This is fun. [01:57:35] Speaker C: Also, I like the name Kaminoan. [01:57:37] Speaker A: I like. I feel like, kind of like John on this one is, like, I remember as a kid liking it a lot. And so, like, that's a cop. But, like, I. I haven't seen as many times as he has. I've probably seen it a total of probably six or seven times. And I definitely. This. What rewatch specifically was really frustrating to me about, like, the stuff I was talking about, but I. And I would say it's probably my third least favorite Star wars movie if I had to. Dick Gobble. But I'm gonna give it. So I'm gonna give it, like, out of five. I'm gonna give it, like, two and a half. Hefty pocketbook. [01:58:24] Speaker C: Pocketbook. Hey, Johnny. I was making a goof em up earlier about Count Dooku escaping in the Bajoran light chip, implying that it was ripped off from Star Wars. I have the wikipedia open just so I can remember what it was called. It says here the Bajoran light chip was designed by Jim Martin, working under production designer Herman Zimmerman. The special effects shots were done using CGI produced by industrial light magic. So. [01:58:55] Speaker A: Lucas own probably interest. [01:59:00] Speaker B: That's funny. [01:59:01] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:59:02] Speaker B: Very interesting. [01:59:04] Speaker C: I mean, I live at that point, had come a long way with fire from spawn 1997. Who. Boy, it looks pretty good. [01:59:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:59:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. Wow. Think about that in just five years. [01:59:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:59:21] Speaker B: The big difference. [01:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:59:22] Speaker C: It's amazing to think that we lived through that real time, that technology really exploded each time something new came out. We're like, oh, it's even better than the last stuff. And now we're jaded and think that everything feels. Fills the creepy. [01:59:34] Speaker A: Yes. The same like, when you go and look back at. Watch, like, the second matrix and stuff, and, like, you see some of the stuff that was in there. But at the time, I remember thinking, like, man, this is so crazy. Like, I go look at how they did that, you know, and then, like, watching it, this, with the benefit of current technologies, like, makes you definitely a little jaded to it. [01:59:55] Speaker C: Yeah. But still, it's a fun time. It's a fun time. [01:59:59] Speaker A: It's fun. Yeah. [02:00:00] Speaker B: It's a Star wars movie. What's not the. [02:00:04] Speaker A: Enjoyable. Yeah, yeah. [02:00:07] Speaker C: It's a good time. [02:00:08] Speaker B: Well, what else is a good time? If you love Star wars, then you should probably not follow us. But you can once a year. Once a year, because we're normally, of course, the spawn podcast. [02:00:21] Speaker C: Or maybe. Or maybe you could just. Maybe you could just listen to our regular episodes, because Johnny Pepper's in some good Star wars nuggets. [02:00:28] Speaker A: Yeah, there's some Star wars peppered in regularly. [02:00:31] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. But, yeah, give us a follow on instagram. We are regarding spawnpod. [02:00:37] Speaker C: Yes, we are. [02:00:38] Speaker B: And then you can also write [email protected] respond or Star wars related questions. [02:00:44] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. [02:00:45] Speaker B: Just make sure to, like, rate, review, subscribe wherever you can. [02:00:49] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [02:00:50] Speaker A: It helps us out. [02:00:52] Speaker C: And, Johnny, this was a pretty fun time. What do you want to do next time we do this? You want to do a little more Star wars? You want to give it a little star. We should watch Star Wars Episode three and come back and talk about it in the year, Johnny, that's what we should do. [02:01:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what you should do. In a year, we'll watch Star Wars Episode three, and we'll come back and talk about it. [02:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:01:14] Speaker B: In the meantime, we'll be talking about spawn, so just keep an eye out for that too. [02:01:18] Speaker C: Yeah, but, you know, have a wonderful Star wars day. You know, enjoy it. Star wars is fun, just like spawn. [02:01:25] Speaker A: May the force be with you. [02:01:27] Speaker B: Yes. [02:01:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:01:28] Speaker B: Or may the scorch, David, may the scorch be with you. Amen. [02:01:35] Speaker A: And also with you. [02:01:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [02:01:37] Speaker B: All right, well, I'm gonna get some jawa juice. [02:01:40] Speaker A: Yeah, you get some food. [02:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I get some Jawa juice and a bantha burger. [02:01:45] Speaker C: Bantha Burger. [02:01:47] Speaker A: What's the designers, what's the name of the food that ray eats? Is there a name for that? The thing that she, like rehydrates bread. [02:01:55] Speaker C: It's a portion. [02:01:57] Speaker A: Yeah, he just calls it a portion. [02:02:00] Speaker C: Well, it's a quarter portion. [02:02:01] Speaker A: I gotta get myself a portion. Yeah, it's a quarter I gotta get myself a whole portion. [02:02:05] Speaker B: All right. [02:02:06] Speaker A: I'm pretty hungry. [02:02:06] Speaker B: I'm gonna get some portion with some blue milk.