RE:Star Wars Episode 4 - Star Wars (1977) - With Mike Norton!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: My clunky. Good. Good evening and welcome to the cantina. This is regarding Star wars, the world's 1 millionth Star wars podcast. I am your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:43] Speaker B: And I am your co host David Williams. And Johnny, we, we got. We have to admit we're a little late on our Star wars episode this year. We are and it happens. It happens. But we have a very good reason for being late. [00:00:56] Speaker A: What is that, David? [00:00:58] Speaker B: It's because it just takes me forever to do stuff. But no, you couldn't guess. [00:01:03] Speaker A: You couldn't find two hours and five minutes to watch the shortest no Star wars movie. I just learned. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Can I admit to you now that it took me three separate courses of sitting down in front of the television to watch at this time? [00:01:16] Speaker A: What? I watched it back to back on May 4th, baby. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Oh yeah, that's great. [00:01:21] Speaker A: That's not back to back to watch cover to cover. [00:01:26] Speaker B: But, but, but anyway, so we've got ourselves guest like we always do with, with Star wars episodes. And we've got a really special guest. A special guest that you could say like Star Wars a lot. So, so I have to say this is. Sorry Jessica or Erica Schultz. Sorry, Mark Spears. Sorry Thomas Healy. But this is probably the biggest guest we've ever had because he is roughly a Chewbacca. [00:01:52] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Wow, David. [00:01:57] Speaker B: But then we have. So you know him from the current ongoing series, the current series of Crypto. You know, from his long running series Battle Pug. You know him from drawing that one arc of Archer and Armstrong that had Davey the fish guy who lived in Armstrong's bag. You know him from Creating Gravity, the Marvel superhero. It's Mike Norton. [00:02:19] Speaker C: Hi. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Welcome, Mike. [00:02:21] Speaker C: Hello. Hi. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Thanks for being here. [00:02:25] Speaker C: Thanks for having me. [00:02:27] Speaker A: You also may know him from Darth Vader, number 20. [00:02:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I drew a backup story, Darth Vader and they haven't had me back since, even though I've asked. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Oh, those cads. [00:02:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:39] Speaker B: That's sad. [00:02:40] Speaker C: I always. I send them a message every once in. Let me draw Star War. That was cool. I didn't get to draw anybody that I knew though, because it was those two murder bots. The two. Yeah, triple zero and CT, which are evil. [00:03:03] Speaker B: Evil 3PO and R2. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Which I kind of, I kind of like, but. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Oh, they're fun. That was a fun. That was a fun series. Yeah, that, that was the 2015. Darth Vader was really, really cool. I saw one moment in that when they show the moment when I guess I think Boba Fett tells him like it was some guy named Skywalker and Darth Vader, like, ah, that cracks a window. He gets so mad. It's awesome. [00:03:29] Speaker B: So how much ska did Karen Gillan make you listen to in order to draw that? [00:03:35] Speaker C: No, I know. I know all about Karen's. I've seen Karen DJ before, so I, I know all about his music tastes and stuff. We're. We're. We're friends. I've known him for a long time, so he didn't subject me to anything. I guess he just. He just assumed that. Oh, you're, You're. You're. Your taste is frozen in 1980s heavy metal, which isn't wrong, but I. Yeah. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Good place to be frozen. [00:04:06] Speaker C: He's too cool. Him and Jamie are too cool for me. Well, here and more so. But yeah, Jamie. Jamie and Karen were always too cool for me. Not. Not that they acted too cool. I just thought they were too cool [00:04:20] Speaker B: for me, I think. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Right. Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:22] Speaker B: They are probably too cool for most people. [00:04:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:04:25] Speaker B: I feel. I feel not cool enough to read their comic books, honestly. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. When you read Karen, you're like, am I stupid? I might be stupid. Yeah. [00:04:38] Speaker B: It does happen that way. It does happen. [00:04:40] Speaker C: But he's been. Yeah, he's been writing. Him. They both been around for a long time because I've known them for a long. So. Yeah. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:48] Speaker A: Well, some of my favorite of your work. My two. The two things are closest to my heart that you've done, Mike, are the art for the new MSC3K. [00:04:57] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:04:58] Speaker A: Excellent. [00:04:59] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:04:59] Speaker A: And something I just got in the mail that I've been wanting to get for a long time, and I, I got it and I had no idea you're involved with it. And I was like. I like, was reading it and I was like, wait, what? I just got this amazing. Oh, Bob Briggs. I'm a huge. From back in the day. I watched Phantasm 2 on TNT one time with Joe Bob, and I was never the same. [00:05:20] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I. Yeah, that was a. That was a bucket list thing. When they asked me, I was like, yeah, of course I'll do that. [00:05:28] Speaker A: I. [00:05:29] Speaker C: My wife got me a cameo from him years and years ago. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:05:36] Speaker C: Yeah. And I've. I've gone to. I went to his. A couple of his. I guess you could call them symposiums or whatever they are. Yes, I've gone to those and I've met him before and so it was really cool to get to do that. [00:05:51] Speaker A: Were you perhaps the one at the Music Box in Chicago? [00:05:53] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The one. The redneck. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Redneck Save Cinema. [00:05:56] Speaker C: Yep. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I was there. It was great. [00:05:58] Speaker C: I loved it because it was like 45 minutes of him telling me my people's history. Cause that's what I used to tell everybody. It's like, you know what? Everybody in Tennessee is basically a Scottish guy that just got off the boat and ran up into the hills. [00:06:17] Speaker B: I mean. Yeah, yeah, that's true. [00:06:20] Speaker A: That's great. But where are you today? Where are we? Why are we here? Because we are. Well, we are respawn where each break week, we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. But today, we are re. Star wars, where we bring you one episode from the Star wars canon. This is our fourth Star wars episode. Can you believe this? For four years, David. [00:06:43] Speaker B: I can't. I can't. It feels like. Yes. Just. Just yesterday that we. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Just yesterday we watched Attack of the Clones and talked about it. [00:06:50] Speaker C: Oh, man. I watched Attack of the Clones five times on opening day. [00:06:55] Speaker A: I saw it twice on opening day. That's pretty good. [00:06:56] Speaker C: Five is great. That's. Five is a problem. Five is stupid. Yeah. I didn't have any choice in the matter as a friend of mine, also named Mike, who kept making me go, he's like, let's go see it again. And then, like, the last time, he's like, oh, my friend's kid wants to see it. I was like, we're going with a strange child. It's not even your kid. We're just taking a kid to the movie. [00:07:24] Speaker A: That's hilarious. [00:07:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Five times in one day. That's a job. You should have gotten paid for that. [00:07:28] Speaker C: I should have gotten paid. That movie is long. [00:07:34] Speaker B: It is. It is something. Yeah, it is something. [00:07:36] Speaker C: Damn. [00:07:37] Speaker A: There was that. That initial high, though, of that, like, last 30. It takes, you know. [00:07:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:41] Speaker A: An hour and 45 minutes to get there. But that last 30 minutes we first saw it, I was like, oh, wow, this is great. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I was also 16, so what are you gonna do? [00:07:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Now I saw it twice. I got in trouble because I. It was before cell phones. It was 2002. And I tried to call my mom, be like, I'm seeing Tyler Clones again. I'll be home at 1am and like, she was really mad at me. [00:08:05] Speaker C: Gone for six hours. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Yeah. But no, we're not talking about the longest. So we are Restar wars today. And we are doing after much contention because I said we should do. We've done three episodes. We've done one, two, three. I think we started with one. Because David knows how much Episode one meant to me as a seventh grader. When it came out. [00:08:26] Speaker B: It meant a lot to both of us. It was a perfect starting point. [00:08:29] Speaker C: When you were 12. [00:08:30] Speaker A: It was pretty good. [00:08:31] Speaker C: That's wild. That's wild to hear that. [00:08:34] Speaker A: That, Yeah, I saw 12 years old. [00:08:38] Speaker B: I was, I was 11 when it came out. And then, and then like while Blockbuster was like advertising the buy it on VHS or pre order it on vhs, they would then show the Weird Al music video of the saga begins. And so Star Wars Episode 1 is the reason that I fell in love with Weird Al. [00:08:59] Speaker C: Oh wow. That is so wild. You are making me feel a hundred years old. [00:09:07] Speaker A: No, I was a full on adult [00:09:10] Speaker C: when that movie came out. I had a job. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I was just a snotty little. [00:09:20] Speaker C: I had a career actually at that point I didn't have a job. I was on salary at an ad agency. [00:09:29] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry, Mike. [00:09:31] Speaker A: $10 a week. I did my chores. [00:09:34] Speaker B: I think mine was $20 a month. [00:09:36] Speaker C: Wow. [00:09:36] Speaker A: I remember I had Internet at that point. I think we just gotten it because it would have been seventh grade. So I think we just got Internet at my house. And I remember being online and being like, I'd be like, go read about it. Like, why is everyone hated? I'm so confused. I was like, what's going on? [00:09:51] Speaker B: Jar Jar Binks was a hero in our house. [00:09:53] Speaker C: That's. Wow. [00:09:54] Speaker A: He was never a hero. I thought he was annoying, but I lied kind of. [00:09:59] Speaker C: I love hearing all this. This is wild. [00:10:03] Speaker A: We're. [00:10:03] Speaker B: We're nothing if not enthusiast. [00:10:05] Speaker C: Let's talk about my favorite Star Wars. [00:10:07] Speaker A: Let's do it. So that's where we come to we. This is our four Star Wars Episode four years. We are doing after most contention. I said we should do story order. David disagreed. And so we, I originally was supposed to be solo, but David said we can do Episode four. [00:10:22] Speaker B: It's all my fault. [00:10:25] Speaker A: So we're doing Star Wars. Star Wars. [00:10:27] Speaker C: We're doing Star Wars. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Star Wars 1977. [00:10:30] Speaker A: Yep, 1977. [00:10:31] Speaker C: I was there. [00:10:34] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:10:34] Speaker C: I was a, I was four years old. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Wow. But you, you did see it in theaters? [00:10:41] Speaker C: No, I didn't see it. I, I, well, at some point, yes, I did. I did see it in theaters, but I think it came back to theaters. I think it ran again and that's when I saw it. [00:10:56] Speaker A: I think every year or two they would, I think there was a like a 78 or 70. [00:11:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that's when I saw it because I Was old enough to understand it. And all of us went. And. And I swear to God, as we drove out of the parking lot, my mother turns around to us and said, luke and Leia are a brother and sister. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Really nice. [00:11:21] Speaker C: And I was like, why would you even say that, Mom? That's stupid. [00:11:26] Speaker B: Mama Norton knew what was up. [00:11:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:28] Speaker A: She had a. That's, you know, she. [00:11:31] Speaker B: She had the force. [00:11:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Canonical. [00:11:34] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't even think. I don't think George Lucas knew they were related at that point. [00:11:41] Speaker A: Well, if you. There was a great book in the 90s. It was called Star wars the Annotated Screenplays. And it had all these little, like, information about the drafts and different things. And the Empire Strike Back one was really interesting because he wasn't his father to very late. [00:11:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:55] Speaker A: In the production. And the. There's another. He was supposed to have a sister, but that's when they were making nine movies with that cast. And they were like, we're gonna introduce his sister. And then I. George Lucas was unhappy with how Empire performed. He was getting tired and, like, there were a lot to produce. So he was like, we're just gonna do one more. [00:12:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:16] Speaker A: And so it'll make lay the sister. So I think that's kind of what happened. [00:12:20] Speaker C: But. Yeah. Yeah, that. That. That. It's my favorite Star wars movie. Everybody picks Empire, but when it comes to something that's like a long series of stuff, I usually pick the first one as my favorite. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Like, I mean, revisiting it. [00:12:40] Speaker C: It. [00:12:41] Speaker A: It's a banger. [00:12:42] Speaker C: It's like the story moves, and it's a good story, and it's. It's perfect for what it is, which is an homage to those old serials. And, Yeah. I mean, it captivated. It made me want to do what I do for a living. So, I mean, it obviously influenced me. I mean, Star wars more than, I think comic books, really. It was. It was a combination of the two, But Star wars made me start drawing stories because that. That was essentially the first comic I ever drew was Star Wars. I drew it on my writing tablet from first grade. So nice. [00:13:26] Speaker B: Instead of the assignment, I assume. [00:13:27] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, it was handwriting. The funny thing is, it's handwriting. Nobody does that anymore. So I. Of the curve, I was like, nobody's gonna need this. I'm no doing cursive. [00:13:39] Speaker B: I've heard that they don't teach cursive anymore. [00:13:41] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I heard that. [00:13:43] Speaker B: Which is. Which is weird because I still use cursive when I take notes because it's Yeah, I don't have to pick the pencil up. [00:13:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Were you the last person taking physical notes, David? [00:13:53] Speaker B: Me? I mean, in science, everybody. Physical notes. [00:13:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:58] Speaker B: You know that if somebody's on a laptop, they're kind of half taking notes, half doing a conversation with somebody. [00:14:03] Speaker C: Somebody. Yeah. [00:14:04] Speaker A: I never took a laptop to a class, not even through college. I graduated in 2010 and I. It was just. It never seemed there were people starting to do it then. [00:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't type. [00:14:16] Speaker A: I'm not doing that. Yeah, I couldn't do it. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Or accurately enough. No, no, it's terrible. So favorite Star Wars? [00:14:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:25] Speaker A: Can you write an argubesh? [00:14:27] Speaker B: David? What is an. Are you bash? I don't know that. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Star Wars's Alphabet. It's called. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. The. You've seen my handwriting, haven't you? [00:14:37] Speaker C: It's funny when you see that. Now, is that what the language is called? It's not galactic, it's not basic. [00:14:45] Speaker A: No, the language is galactic. Basic. And then the written form of it, instead of Alphabet, it's. [00:14:51] Speaker C: Are you basic? [00:14:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:14:52] Speaker C: And that's that symbol looking thing. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you kind of read. [00:14:56] Speaker C: It's so funny when you see the movie. And that was an early change when they changed the stuff on the screens and the TIE fighter because. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:15:05] Speaker C: I mean, not the Typhoon or the X Wing, but because you used to be able to read what R2 was saying and now it's all comes up as symbols and stuff. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Well, like in this one when I. I rewatched the. I have the dvd the one for time the release, the originals on DVD was a special feature on the second release of the DVDs. I have those, but they're in a storage facility right now. So I watched on Disney plus and, and they. And I. I remember they changed. When Ben Kenobi turns off the tracker, it usually say tractor beam. [00:15:34] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that. [00:15:36] Speaker A: And then they change it to like all the. All the language. [00:15:40] Speaker C: Hold on just a second. I got somebody annoying me. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Oh, no. Is it Mr. Cooper? [00:15:45] Speaker C: Yeah, he bangs on the door until I let him in. This is my dog. It's my dog, Cooper. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Hey, Coop. Hey, Coop. [00:15:58] Speaker C: Yeah, he has separation anxiety. [00:16:01] Speaker B: Oh, that happens. Dingus has that too. But we don't want dingus to get to the point where he starts freaking out. [00:16:07] Speaker C: So he's. [00:16:08] Speaker B: He's gonna stay back there. [00:16:09] Speaker C: Yeah, he'll just. [00:16:10] Speaker A: The show is very used to David's dogs. [00:16:13] Speaker C: Oh, I love. Yeah, I'm a big fan. [00:16:16] Speaker B: So Mike. Mike himself used to have Two beautiful boys. [00:16:19] Speaker C: Yep. Two little pugs. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Two little pugs. Mr. Ninja and Mr. Moe. Mr. Moe had no concerns in the world. And Ninja hated horses, so. [00:16:28] Speaker C: Ninja. Yeah, Ninja was grumpy. [00:16:32] Speaker B: They were. They were real sweet, though. [00:16:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:33] Speaker A: Well, I guess we just start at the beginning. Where is the most iconic opening of all time? Sure. [00:16:39] Speaker C: I mean. I mean, yeah, it's weird now because I don't know if. Because at this point, I'm an old. So I don't know if it is as influential anymore. I don't know. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Well, they. I mean, they abandoned it. I mean, I can't believe that. Like, when I go see the. The Mandalorian Grogu in two weeks, if it doesn't have a crawl, I'm always disappointed. [00:17:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that's right. It doesn't have a cross because they [00:17:06] Speaker A: abandoned it in Rogue One. They abandoned it in Solo. Yeah. I'm like, man, you gotta. That's like a great asset, is that. [00:17:11] Speaker C: Well, that crawl, obviously, they started that and then it was in everything after that. [00:17:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:21] Speaker C: So, I mean, like, a lot of things, Star wars is a victim of its own success in many ways. So it's like. [00:17:32] Speaker A: There's just something about the. Going from the 20th Century Fox fanfare right. To that John Williams, like. Like the blast. And it's just so. [00:17:40] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, they started it and they got. I mean, it's. Yeah. John Williams and that. That one shot that every sci fi movie copied for years afterwards. I got to the point. So those. The kit bashing they did for those ships, it's so cool because, you know, nobody had ever done that really before. But then after that, everybody was doing them. And then so I would watch these, like, crappy Italian movies, and you could see, like, what pieces were on some of these, like, these. These ships. It was like, oh, that's a strainer. Oh, oh, that's. There was one movie. I can't even remember what it was, but literally the doors of the ship was a Millennium Falcon. Like, they actually had the ship on there. I was like, you can't do that. [00:18:37] Speaker A: It's just like folding it back. [00:18:38] Speaker C: Yeah. They just put a toy on the back of this thing. Yeah. I wish I could remember what movie that was, but it tripped me out when I saw that. But, yeah, I saw one. [00:18:49] Speaker A: I can't remember either, but it wasn't. I don't remember the name, but there's a. There's a kind of a fringe movie festival in Northwestern every year called B Fest, and they show like 24 hours of B Movies. And there was a. I think it was. It wasn't Italian. I can't remember what country was from, but it was definitely a Star wars just rip off. And it was a hoot. I can't remember what it was called either. [00:19:07] Speaker C: Yeah, there's. There's so many. There's so many. So it's kind of hard to. To pin it down. So what do you think about the end of what is at the end of that movie that actually has, like. Does the prequel part to that. Blockade Runners, Rogue One. What do you think about that? [00:19:31] Speaker A: I. I have famously said on the show many times, I didn't love Rogue One. I could. [00:19:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:19:37] Speaker A: I know. [00:19:38] Speaker C: It's. [00:19:38] Speaker A: I could tell it was kind of pieced together. You could tell there were a lot of reshoots. A lot of stuff was different. The trailer and it was like. I remember one of my friends pointed after we saw it, I was like. He was like. Every character dies from a grenade thrown off screen. [00:19:51] Speaker C: It does really seem like they don't. I don't. I think they meant to make it like that so that it was like they wanted to see like the fog of War kind of thing. I don't think they wanted it to be like a. Oh, here's a singular enemy that you can hate on so they can get revenge later. It was just like, this is what happens in a war. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Right. I don't like anything gets too prequel like that with the CG Carrie Fisher at the end. [00:20:19] Speaker C: Oh, I hate. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Anytime they do the actor cg, it just rests the worst. [00:20:23] Speaker C: Yeah, but it's the. The reason I mentioned that is because. Because of, you know, so we're talking about the first one. You know, everybody I know, there's two Star wars fans now. There's the Star wars fans like me, and then there's the Star wars fans that are like Andor. And they. They're like. They're the sophisticated people that don't like Star wars, but they're like, oh, finally a Star wars for. For us, a star. And that's what Rogue One started that. I think Rogue One was like that. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:58] Speaker C: Because everybody I know that likes Andor loves Rogue One. And I get it because Andor is in it. But it's like, oh, it's like a. It's like a war story. It's not like a Star wars story. It's like, well, then it's not Star wars, is it? [00:21:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm much more in your camp. Like, out of the new ones I really liked. I like Force Awakens Last Jedi. And I kind of like Solo, but like, other than that, I could pretty much leave them. I don't really like Rogue One. I didn't like Episode nine very much. [00:21:25] Speaker C: The thing is, I, I'll. I'm programmed so I watch all of them. [00:21:29] Speaker A: Oh, I've seen. I don't like Episode nine. [00:21:32] Speaker C: I've seen it and I don't really hate any. I'll find something to like in all of them. Yeah, but, yeah, there. There's like that new fan that's like, oh, finally. Finally a Star wars without the Skywalker's in it. And I'm like, that's what Star wars is about. Star wars is about the fucking Skywalkers one. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Like I said, it's like it's its own curse in a way. [00:21:56] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah. [00:21:57] Speaker A: And one thing I noticed watching this movie is there's so much great one line world building. [00:22:01] Speaker C: Yes. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Like Toshi. [00:22:02] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [00:22:04] Speaker A: No idea what that is. [00:22:05] Speaker C: And that. Nobody did that before either. Talk about trailblazing. They. They built worlds by being in the world. It's like when we. When I would. Well, when I was a kid, I'd buy. I'd go to a flea market and I get like x men number 57. I didn't get number one. I got 57. I'm looking up and I'm like, well, what the happened before this? And then you go looking. That's essentially what that is. It's in like movie story form. And it's enticing, it's intriguing. As long as you don't make it too impenetrable. Like, and as we're talking about, they're a victim of that in a way because people start making up their own stories and then they get mad when their stories don't jive with what they actually come up with. It's like I. It's like comic books, because we. It happens every day in comic books. I've been. I stopped being on the Internet because I used to get in so many arguments with people when I started out. You know, that's a good idea. Yeah. Just people telling, like the people that make the comic books that they're wrong about the comic that they're being paid. It's like, you know how these stories get made. Right. You know, the things that you love about somebody made that. And if you don't like it, I mean, I understand. There's things I hate. And I choose to believe that Wolverine isn't 100 years old and, and doesn't know who he is. And he's doesn't have bone claws, but you know, I've been proven wrong. But I live in my little story. I have my own head cannon and I don't get angry and threaten people when it doesn't happen. [00:23:58] Speaker A: About like what year when did they reveal that Wolverine's 100 years old? When was that? [00:24:02] Speaker C: Oh, it's already been a while. But I think that origins was when that really came to pass. They alluded to things, but I think that's when they're like, oh yeah, he is ancient. And, and there was a time that if you like stuck a sword through Wolverine, he was laid up for a couple of months. It's like, oh, he might die, you know, and now he's just like taking full on nuclear blasts in the face. It's like he is not, he's not interesting anymore when he's Superman, you know, it's like, yeah, I want, I need there to be stakes. [00:24:44] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I can do it. I think with Star wars too, I think one thing that happened was that like that lull in between the prequels, because they made all this content. [00:24:52] Speaker C: Yeah, right. And that, that built up the anticipation and the expectation. That's definitely true. [00:24:58] Speaker A: Built up because there were novels and because it was like world building, you had to get kind of more technical. [00:25:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Well, I think Star wars works best where it's just like a playground for a filmmaker. Yeah. [00:25:10] Speaker C: Well, you got to think about the two genre, the two mediums. Right. So in books you have a lot of room to be technical. You got to have the jargon, you got to explain this. And they usually, they farm that out to somebody and they just approve it. [00:25:27] Speaker A: Right. [00:25:27] Speaker C: But in a movie it's better if you just say like Tashi Station and then don't, you know, the illusion and the, you can't sit there and explain something. It makes the movie terrible. You know what I mean? So you can't do that, but in a book that you need to do that. So people read these books and it's like, oh yeah, now there's encyclopedias about it and stuff like that. Right. [00:25:55] Speaker B: I do have to say that watching this now, it feels a little unstar wars because everything, Star wars now, like, yeah, every single second is accounted for and like you see everything that happens within that single second. And there's just so much we're gonna skip to now. [00:26:12] Speaker C: Well, a lot of that I think is just filmmaking in general. The differences. Yeah. And the technology and stuff. And yeah, there's. It, it's funny that they, that they were ever competing with Star Trek, you know what I mean? Because it's so. So different. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Different. [00:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:30] Speaker C: And, yeah, I mean, I guess there's an argument for, like, the old show, but it's just such a. You could take the state spaceships out of it, you know, and it would still be Star Wars. You know, you could call it, you know, make it a western or make it. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah, or like a samurai film. [00:26:53] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, basically that's what it is. Right. So, I mean, it's all. [00:26:57] Speaker A: It's all his. His favorite thing. Samurai. [00:26:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:59] Speaker A: Cowboy. [00:27:00] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:27:00] Speaker A: Cereals. Let's put it all together, huh? [00:27:03] Speaker C: That's kind of. You know, when I started Battle Pug, that was my whole excuse behind it is like, I'm gonna draw all the stuff I liked when I was a kid and just put it together. Yeah. Put it together. And Star wars is one of those things, so there's a little bit of that in there. But it's funny, all the stuff. I've said it a couple of times, and I don't know if it's offensive to people, but Star wars is how religions get started. And I don't know if anybody realizes that. It's like, this is how religions get started. You know, this is how it happens. Because people like something so much, and then you start arguing over dogmas, and then it's just so wild to see it in real time because it's been all of my life. [00:27:55] Speaker B: There. There is that joke in the Book of Mormon, the musical, that if. If Star wars is the Bible, then the Book of Mormon is the Return of the Jedi. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Ah, yeah. [00:28:06] Speaker B: That's a good way to get people into the religion. [00:28:08] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:10] Speaker B: Full disclosure, as a child, Return of the Jedi was my favorite. Star wars might actually still be my favorite. [00:28:14] Speaker C: I mean, I think. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely the. The most for kids, I think. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. [00:28:22] Speaker C: But I loved it at the time. I remember people not. I mean, everybody freaking loved that movie, but a lot of people like to say, in hindsight, oh, it wasn't good. We didn't like Ewoks and stuff like that. And I was like, I don't know anybody that didn't like that movie until I was an adult cult, you know, so clearly they weren't my age. [00:28:47] Speaker A: So. Yeah, I. I feel like Star wars is always my favorite, but I was more. I was really drawn to Return the Jedi because it was the newest. Yeah, right. [00:28:56] Speaker C: Sure. [00:28:57] Speaker A: It had the flashy special effects. Yeah, it had. There was still, like, relics of it. Around kind of like you find like not. I couldn't find merchandise in a store, but like it was the most common merchandise was stuff from like Return of the Jedi. Yeah, it was like the newest one. [00:29:11] Speaker C: Now think about that too. That's another thing is like there be none of us with all these toys on our shelves without Star Wars. Because they started that crap. [00:29:23] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:29:24] Speaker C: Literally started that crap. It's wild because like. [00:29:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, even to, you know, tied to our main show. Like if that collector kind of toy based obsession hadn't been planted. Todd McFarlane toys. [00:29:39] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, we, I think all of us. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:48] Speaker C: If you're in any kind of a genre of storytelling at this point in time, you pretty much owe Star Wars. [00:30:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:01] Speaker C: Because true, you'd be lying if it wasn't an influence. Influence. You might not even know that it's an influence. But yes, that's how insidious it is. Like I said, I'm programmed. I will watch. If one's on the tv. When I'm in another place in a hotel, I'm watching it. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, AMC shows it. My mom has cable. I'm over at my mom's on Friday nights. Sometimes I think AMC shows the original trilogy every Friday, at least for a while. They work because it was Star Wars Friday and I'd always put it on and she'd be like, oh, you're watching your retro movie. [00:30:41] Speaker B: Dude, could you imagine being 12 years old, get a couple of pizzas, a couple of two liters and just watching Star wars every Friday night at somebody else's house. [00:30:50] Speaker C: Dude, [00:30:52] Speaker B: that would rock from 95 to [00:30:54] Speaker C: 97 when they finally came out. Yeah, it was awesome. And because you still had to go to the theater to watch it until I was. Geez, when did it actually come out on video? It wasn't the ones that they altered, was it? [00:31:10] Speaker A: No, there was. So there's a. I think the original VHS was. Reese was probably around like 1988. [00:31:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So. [00:31:16] Speaker A: And this was it. CBS, Fox. Yeah, so that's Fox on the top. [00:31:20] Speaker C: I had to wait like almost a decade to get it on vhs. That's crazy because there's. [00:31:25] Speaker A: It's that everyone forgets. There was that weird thing with like, okay, we're gonna make vhs. You can only rent them or they're gonna be a hundred dollars. [00:31:32] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:31:33] Speaker A: I was like, what? [00:31:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker A: And then like a few years later, they're like, all right, we'll just make. [00:31:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:37] Speaker A: But at first they were. Studios were very reluctant to put it because they Were Disney released Pinocchio every three years for the 50s or 60s. [00:31:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:47] Speaker A: And they would do that, you know, and that. That was seen as a. A big moneymaker. [00:31:52] Speaker C: Well, I mean, it was a. I mean, going to the movies, especially those kind of movies, was a huge. Like, the whole family went. We went. When we went to Empire, they were just. We were, like, out to eat that day because, you know, you're. When you're a kid in the 80s, you don't know what's coming out. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:11] Speaker C: No, you just. So they drive by to see it out in. My poor parents. Star wars was on the. On this. On the thing. And me and my brother pitched such a fit. And they're like, it's starting now. We're not. We screamed our heads off. They park the car. They go in. There's only two seats. They're not sitting next to each other. So I sat in my dad's lap, and my brother sat in my mom's lap, and we watched Empire Strikes Back. [00:32:44] Speaker A: That's amazing. So cool. [00:32:45] Speaker C: Because we were spoiled little brats. [00:32:49] Speaker A: That's amazing. Oh, I mean, that's such a lost thing of, like. You just go to the movie. [00:32:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:32:55] Speaker A: At the mall and you're like, maybe I'll see a movie. [00:32:58] Speaker C: The day I realized they had the. The Times and the movies and the paper blew my mind. Yeah. It's like, you know what's coming out. I thought we had to go there. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Or you got Mr. Movie Phone and then. [00:33:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Well, that was. [00:33:13] Speaker B: Something happened. [00:33:14] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:33:16] Speaker B: When your time came up and you had to listen to the whole dang thing again. [00:33:19] Speaker A: I mean, the entertainment section of the newspaper was always big for me because it had the ads. [00:33:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:24] Speaker A: Like, cut them. [00:33:24] Speaker C: Loved them. [00:33:25] Speaker A: Sometimes they have, like, big ones. They have, like, big, like, you know, couple inches long, like, posters in the paper. [00:33:31] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Be like, oh, man. [00:33:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Get me nostalgic. But anyway, so the ships come over. Darth Vader comes in. [00:33:42] Speaker C: We might have to abbreviate this. [00:33:45] Speaker A: We'll go fast. We'll go fast. This is our format. This. So it was surprising to me. So we sat down to record the first episode of Respawn ever four years ago. And I was like, okay, we're talking about spawn number one and another issue. And David just starts going through it page by page. I was like, oh, that's the format. [00:34:04] Speaker B: What else are we supposed to do? [00:34:06] Speaker A: The iconic. They're fighting. [00:34:08] Speaker C: I've been on Star Wars Minute several times. [00:34:12] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:34:12] Speaker C: I love that show. [00:34:13] Speaker A: That's amazing. [00:34:15] Speaker C: I can't do that again. Can't do it by minute. That's crazy. [00:34:22] Speaker B: We have to hit that. We have to hit the big notes. We have to hit the Darth Vader's entrance. Darth Vader's. [00:34:27] Speaker C: Darth Vader's entrance. [00:34:29] Speaker B: The scared guys. [00:34:31] Speaker C: Yeah, he was terrifying. And you could. I remember you could see through his lenses. They were brown. Yes. [00:34:38] Speaker A: They were like. [00:34:39] Speaker C: They were like sunglasses. They were like my dad's sunglasses. [00:34:43] Speaker A: And they covered him up in the Disney version. They're all just. [00:34:46] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Carrie Fisher doing her half ass accent. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Oh. It goes in and out. It shifts. Like, is she British or not? [00:34:54] Speaker C: Yep, yep. I don't think she knew. Yeah. [00:34:57] Speaker A: I mean, she was what, 18? [00:34:59] Speaker C: 19. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 19. Yeah. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Here's another admission. I saw Spaceballs before I saw Star wars for the first time. So the first time I saw Darth Vader, I was like, why is his head so small? It supposed to be big? [00:35:11] Speaker A: Is it supposed to be huge? [00:35:13] Speaker B: I thought he had a big head. [00:35:15] Speaker C: That's so funny that the joke worked on in reverse for you. Yeah. You didn't have the. That's. It's kind of. Yeah, it's hilarious because you didn't have. You didn't get the beauty of the joke, but it turned around and made it weird. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:33] Speaker B: Because I remember I was at my cousin's house and I was like, why is this guy's head so small? Isn't it supposed to be a big head guy? And they were like, what are you talking about? No. [00:35:41] Speaker A: Yeah. When I was very little, I kind of just considered a part of Star Wars. Like, I was like, oh, that's funny. [00:35:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, sure. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Mind. And I was like, oh, Spaceballs. That's another Star wars movie. Like, it just kind of was all meshed together. [00:35:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:53] Speaker A: I loved it all just equally, you know? [00:35:55] Speaker C: So they got. They. So there's that escape pod and I had the. You could buy a playset out of Sears catalog because they used to make these things that were like. Didn't buy them in stores. It was like a plastic thing and then a cardboard background of like the desert. And then it came with the escape pod in R2D2 and C3PO. And that's. For the longest time I did not know when the stormtroopers hold up that restraining bolt and they go, look, droids. And I was like, how do they know what did. What fell off of them? Is. Is R2D2 missing something? You know? Yeah. And I was like, didn't understand. Oh, that's a restraining bowl, probably, or something like that. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Well, I think. I think this was my favorite when I was a kid was. Was Star Wars. And my favorite section is just the Tatooine section. [00:36:53] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:36:54] Speaker A: Was always. It's always been my favorite. [00:36:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Like all the Star wars. Just like from the homestead to the Tuscan raiders to the most Eisley. Like, that was just. That's just my favorite. And like, it's. And it's so cool and it has all the world building and it was fun. It is always funny watching the Disney plus version because I'm like, oh, man. Like, there's so many, like, the CG do backs. [00:37:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:37:19] Speaker A: You know, the Beasts of Burden, they look so. Because it's like. It's 4K but it's film. [00:37:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:25] Speaker A: And then they have superimposed the CG thing on it. It looks so odd. [00:37:29] Speaker C: It is weird when you see the legs, because they had a dupe back. There was an actual. Yeah, but. But weird when you see those legs. It's like. I always thought of them as, like, elephant legs or something. Then you see them, they're like these little raptor legs. And I was like, that's weird. [00:37:48] Speaker A: That's probably the. [00:37:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:49] Speaker A: I mean, he. I mean, I think. I don't know. I've never confirmed this. I think the timeline is. Is. And George Lucas was second unit director on Jurassic park to help us. Spielberg, who's also doing Schindler's List at the same time, and he was like, okay, I think I can do it now. And then, like, the special testing ground, I think so. It does have a lot of Jurassic lizards. I could. I could see that. Like, maybe they even, like, modified the Raptor or something to make it. Who knows? [00:38:17] Speaker C: But let's put some Raptor feet on this. [00:38:22] Speaker A: Because they were just sitting there, like, going like a puppet. Like, their mouths would open. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. It's a big, huge one that. That people actually sat on. But I think it's only like the top of it. I don't think they had, like a bottom. Just like, you know, the land speeder had mirrors on the bottom so that. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Right. And they would put Vaseline on the lens to blur out the land speeder wheels. [00:38:45] Speaker C: So you hadn't seen a lightsaber yet, but. And so the land speeder was the coolest thing so far in that movie. When you watch it, you're like, holy crap, that thing floats. [00:38:58] Speaker A: That toy, that Keter original Lancer was. [00:39:01] Speaker C: So we had it. Yeah. [00:39:03] Speaker A: It had like rubber bands on the wheels, so it looked like it was floating. It was cool. [00:39:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. Yeah. That was an awesome toy. [00:39:09] Speaker A: My. [00:39:09] Speaker C: It was my brothers. We shared the toys. [00:39:13] Speaker A: So he got it. [00:39:15] Speaker C: He's got some and I had some. And he usually had all the Luke Skywalker related stuff for some reason. [00:39:23] Speaker A: That's like my brother. He was a Luke guy and I was a Han guy. [00:39:25] Speaker C: I was. You know, here's the. There's a funny thing about that. I've realized at 52, soon to be 53, that I was. I loved Han Solo. He was the coolest guy I wanted to be. Han Solo. I think I'm a Luke. After all this time, I think I'm Luke. I'm not a Han. I'm a Luke. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Just like grumpy old man hanging out with the Porgs. [00:39:49] Speaker C: Yeah, everybody. Everybody's like, oh, Batman over Superman. I. I love Batman, but I think I'm a Superman. I think I'm. I don't know what happened, but I look back and I'm like, I'm. I'm just uncool. I'm not. I'm not the cool guy. [00:40:08] Speaker B: I think it would be so much easier to live with yourself if you were Superman than if you were Batman. [00:40:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, sure. I'm not going to carry that baggage around. [00:40:14] Speaker B: You can actually, like. Yeah, he could actually kick his feet up and relax every once in a while. [00:40:18] Speaker C: Yeah, but, yeah, but yeah, Han Solo was just too cool for me. But I mean, that he got. They both died, but it's like, [00:40:29] Speaker A: they're all dead. [00:40:30] Speaker C: Yeah, they're all dead. But yeah, I guess I am the grumpy guy. I would love some porgs, though. That would be. [00:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that would be awesome. I was. I've always, always just been a droid guy. [00:40:43] Speaker C: Oh, really? That's interesting. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Always been my favorite. [00:40:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I get called Chewbacca a lot. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Our R2D2 is far and away my favorite. But Chopper is. Chopper. [00:40:54] Speaker C: Chopper's pretty good. [00:40:55] Speaker B: Yeah, Chopper's so good. [00:40:57] Speaker C: Crap. I was. I really was into BB8 when I saw him the first time. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah, BB8 is awesome. Yeah, BB8 is. Is. Is the innocent sweet one. I like that. R2D2 is a grump. [00:41:11] Speaker C: He's become a grump. He's become. He was just sassy before. Yeah, he's just like a. A little jerk brother. [00:41:18] Speaker A: But one of my favorite parts of the new ones is when he curses because he says something messed up. Hey, it's a sacred island. No, he says something. It looks like, hey, watch the language. Sacred island. [00:41:29] Speaker B: Well, it's like. It's like when R2D2 wakes up for the first time and see, see C3PO for the first time in decades. And C3PO basically says, watch your mouth, young man. [00:41:38] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, you don't know what C3PO. What. What is like pearl clutching to him. [00:41:46] Speaker A: How many times that poor droid's memory been wiped? How many? [00:41:49] Speaker C: All right. Yeah, he could. You know what? He could have, like, droid Alzheimer's and we wouldn't know it. He's probably. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:41:57] Speaker C: Yeah. That guy, he's messed up. Yeah. Can you believe that dude was sitting in a Guy was sitting in a gold medal suit in the middle of the freaking desert. Yeah. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:10] Speaker B: I can't imagine he loved it too, Anthony. Yeah, still, like, you want to put me back in the suit? You want to put me back in the suit? [00:42:15] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:42:18] Speaker C: Made a career out of talking about it. It's so wild. Is he. [00:42:23] Speaker A: He's the only one that's in all nine episodes, I believe. [00:42:26] Speaker C: I think so. I think so. [00:42:29] Speaker B: Which one is even R2 missing from? [00:42:32] Speaker A: Well, the. Kenny Baker died. [00:42:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:34] Speaker B: Okay. Character. [00:42:37] Speaker A: Well, yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. But Kenny Baker had died before they finished the sequel trilogy, so. [00:42:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:42] Speaker A: Or I think he died before they started it. And so he was never R2 again. But I think. I think Anthony Daniel's golden. Tony. He's the only one at all. [00:42:51] Speaker C: Tony. [00:42:54] Speaker B: So I still remember reading that C3PO one shot that Tony Daniel and what's his dead. [00:43:03] Speaker C: Tony Daniel drew it. That's so. [00:43:05] Speaker B: No, not Tony Daniels. Not Tony Daniels. It's that it was the Starman team. [00:43:10] Speaker C: Oh, Tony. What did you think about that? Now I'm gonna. [00:43:14] Speaker B: Not Tony Robbins. [00:43:15] Speaker C: No, that's. [00:43:18] Speaker A: But the one. That explains the red arm. [00:43:20] Speaker B: That explains the red arm. And it's the only C3PO story that is Tony Harris. Tony Harris. And like, it was a very weird feeling to be like, why am I crying about C3PO? Why do I care about this guy so much? [00:43:34] Speaker A: Yeah, well, he goes through a lot. They get captured by jawas. I love the jawas as well. [00:43:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:39] Speaker A: We get the action figure where you. He. The light would shine through the head. Oh, and the eyes. [00:43:45] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, the big ones. Are you talking about the big ones or the little tiny ones? [00:43:49] Speaker A: No, I had like the 90s one one that was like, they were little, but I know that. [00:43:52] Speaker C: Yeah, they were. Yeah. In this 70s, early 80s. I. They made these huge, like these doll size 12 inch things and there was a Jawa and his eyes lit up. But I had the Luke and the Han and I was just insane over the detail on all their little things that you could take out of their belts and stuff like that. But yeah, there was a Jawa with lit up. [00:44:21] Speaker B: I love the Jawas. Yeah, they're great because they're like, they're like the guys in the, the trucks with the boarded up beds, they go looking for scrap metal in the alleys. It's, it's so. It's something that would exist if this planet. [00:44:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Of Tatooine were real. [00:44:36] Speaker A: And I wish it were. [00:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah. It's so good. [00:44:39] Speaker A: You know that star the Galaxy's Edge was originally pitch as Tatooine, but Disney was like, no, we'll do the new movies, we'll do a new place. Which I don't know, maybe it wasn't the right decision. [00:44:52] Speaker C: I don't know. I don't know. [00:44:54] Speaker A: I haven't been. I've never been. [00:44:55] Speaker C: Oh, I love it. It's great. You need to go. [00:44:57] Speaker A: It's cool. [00:44:58] Speaker C: Yeah, you need to go. I mean, it's, it's still all the Disney lines and stuff, but it is just kind of cool to be sitting in the middle of all that, you know? [00:45:09] Speaker A: Sure. [00:45:09] Speaker C: Because we've all played like we've been in that universe, but to actually. And there's something awe inspiring about sitting in front of an actual Millennium Falcon. That's crazy. [00:45:21] Speaker A: Oh, I can't imagine. [00:45:23] Speaker B: I still have a hard time trying to imagine scale of the Millennium Falcon. [00:45:28] Speaker C: Oh, well, they'll do it for you. It's sitting right there in a parking lot. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Once we get that Casper Masters sponsorship, [00:45:36] Speaker B: we're going to Disney World. Hell, yeah. [00:45:39] Speaker C: I think it's in the middle where we're talking. Well, I guess it's not really the middle, but that, that's when they, that that's when they start bringing in all the stuff that would be the bane of Star wars existence for the rest of the series. Because that's when you find out about the Clone Wars. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Senate he mentions. Yeah. I was really like, oh. Because Grandma Tartan comes in, he's like, the Galactic Senate has blah, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, my God. [00:46:07] Speaker C: Yeah, there's all of this stuff. They. Yeah, the, the Jedi religion, which at that time we. I was like, oh, it's a religion. So they're all. It's like, I thought they were Mike Monks and stuff like that. [00:46:21] Speaker A: The thing I never imagined until he like made it canon I guess was like, they all just dressed like Obi Wan Kenobi did on tattoo. [00:46:31] Speaker C: So this is. [00:46:33] Speaker A: He was dressed like a moisture farm. [00:46:36] Speaker C: This is why when people always go. Yeah, George had it all planned out as like, it. The clues are right there. Yeah. You don't go in. It's like, why the hell does he dress like. Why do they all wear the same outfit if he's in disguise? [00:46:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker C: So people. [00:46:56] Speaker A: Uncle Owen wears the exact same thing. Uncle Owen is dressed like a moisture fisher farmer. [00:47:02] Speaker C: I think it's like. No, he's wearing Tatooine clothes. And they just made that the Jedi outfit later. [00:47:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:47:10] Speaker C: So dumb. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Well, just short sighted. It's only the prequels, I guess, to confirm that. Because when Luke becomes a Jedi, he wears like, cool. Whatever he wants. Yeah. [00:47:19] Speaker C: And even that was. They were wanted you to think he was gonna be another Vader because he's wearing Darth Vader's outfit essentially. [00:47:28] Speaker A: Actually, yeah. The hand. [00:47:31] Speaker C: But yeah. I don't think they knew. No. Any of that stuff. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Well, in and George Lucas's defense, you could clearly. I didn't notice it until this time around, but you can clearly see that Obi Wan Kenobi has patches all over his stuff. So he's been clearly been wearing those clothes for a very long time. [00:47:51] Speaker C: Okay. [00:47:52] Speaker B: Potentially as long as Luke Skywalker has been living on Tatooine. [00:47:56] Speaker C: Sure. [00:47:57] Speaker B: So this could just be the close he came with. And then maybe Uncle Owen was like that old man. He's got. He's got serious fashion sense. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:05] Speaker C: That's what it is. Like, I'm bringing this back. [00:48:09] Speaker A: I'm gonna make the Jedi look. [00:48:11] Speaker C: Yeah, Bringing it back. But yeah. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Well, even in early concept art for episode one, like, they look crazy. Like, there's like, concept art where, like, he's in like this. Like they're not in those robes. I think at one point he was like, I don't think they'll understand it if he's on the exact same outfit. [00:48:26] Speaker C: Yeah. So. But it doesn't explain Uncle Owen wearing it. Right. [00:48:32] Speaker A: They dress exactly like a Jedi. [00:48:34] Speaker C: Uncle Owen's wearing Jedi robes, and Aunt Beru is wearing a leisure suit. [00:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker B: It's like Obi Wan Kenobi is like, here's a whole bunch of. Of Anakin's old clothing. [00:48:46] Speaker C: Yeah. He's just borrowing his brother in law stuff. So Amber looks like she just didn't even go to wardrobe that day. She just walked in. Yeah. [00:49:03] Speaker A: One thing that always cracks me up about Amberu is they've in every version they overdubbed her dialogue with a different actress. And it's so. It's always been so obvious. She's like, oh, oh. It's just like her mouth's, like, moving. It, like, barely matches. [00:49:17] Speaker C: Well, you say it's so obvious, but I don't think I noticed when I was a kid. Okay. [00:49:21] Speaker B: Well, I mean, yeah, I just noticed for the first time that Darth Vader, like, does hand gestures at times. [00:49:28] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Jones isn't speaking. Hands gesture. [00:49:31] Speaker C: You know, that stuff when you're. Yeah, well, because David Prowse was all. He didn't. He didn't. I don't think he knew he was going to be dubbed. Who's acting? Exactly. [00:49:45] Speaker A: So I heard. I heard a thing, probably in the 2000s, when I was going to Tulsa Comic Con, that David Prowse wouldn't sign something if James Earl Jones had signed it. He was like. He was. He didn't. He was offended. And he would, like. He would not sign it if. If James Earl Jones had signed it first. You know, what are you gonna do? [00:50:10] Speaker C: Gonna happen? [00:50:11] Speaker B: You're allowed your essence. Eccentricities. [00:50:14] Speaker A: And then. And then. And then he screwed it even more because they cast Sebastian Shaw as Anakin. [00:50:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Turn to the Jedi. He's probably really mad. Yeah. [00:50:25] Speaker C: He's like, wait a minute. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Before we leave Tatooine, we have to say Cantina. I love the. [00:50:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Cantina was everybody's favorite. Yeah. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Oh, it's the best. [00:50:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:33] Speaker B: Tuscans. I love a Bantha. I love a band. [00:50:37] Speaker C: Yeah. So that was the first time I saw a movie and that where somebody's getting their arm cut off. And I'm like, oh, it's gonna be that kind of movie. There's blood on that floor also. There's blood on that floor. Lightsabers. Lightsabers don't, like, burn. They just a spray or something. That's crazy. [00:51:00] Speaker B: It is crazy. [00:51:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:01] Speaker C: But, yeah, you see the lightsaber and you're like, holy crap, there's. That's a laser sword. [00:51:07] Speaker B: I like the alien guy who's got, like, the little proboscis, and he's just like, yeah, that guy's real good. Yeah, the Cantina. The cantina Band kicks ass. I would go see those guys if they played in town. [00:51:20] Speaker C: The modal nodes. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah, Figuring Dan and the modal nodes [00:51:24] Speaker C: playing their jizz music. [00:51:26] Speaker A: Playing jizz. I like how in, like, 1993, they're like, we're gonna call it jizz. Is that okay? And they're like, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever. [00:51:34] Speaker C: I Have. I have. I still have a clue horn. I have a clue horn in my studio. [00:51:39] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:51:40] Speaker B: Nice. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Wow, that's awesome. [00:51:43] Speaker C: I got it at Galaxy's Edge. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:51:47] Speaker A: I have a. I have a nice little. I saw online where the merchandise was. My friend was going. I was like, I want the ones from the in universe toy store. So I have a jar Jar. And I have a jawa from the in universe toy store. That's like there. And those are. Those are pretty cool. I wish I could have gone on the Galactic Star Cruiser. I would have loved to do that. [00:52:10] Speaker C: That was cool. [00:52:11] Speaker B: But you actually got to do the Galactic Star Cruiser. Oh, nice. [00:52:16] Speaker C: Oh, what are you. Are you talking about the hotel? Yeah. No, no, no. I dreamt of it. I dreamt of going. [00:52:24] Speaker A: No, I thought about doing it. [00:52:26] Speaker C: No, I wanted to have you. There's like a whole bunch of, like, videos on YouTube of people that did it. [00:52:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Jenny Nicholson did a really good, like, three hour deep dive. It's really interesting. And now it's just a parking lot. [00:52:40] Speaker C: It's so wild that we all were clamoring to go essentially to a hotel with no windows and no pool. It's just. Yeah, it's just a box. It's the cheapest thing in the world when you think about it. I don't know why it didn't work. Other. I mean, they must have been paying people. Incredible. But I don't think they were. [00:53:05] Speaker A: I mean, it was expensive. [00:53:08] Speaker B: It was. It was a very expensive stay. [00:53:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:10] Speaker A: I don't know. I looked into it for a second. I was like, you know, I don't know if I can do that. [00:53:15] Speaker B: Chewie is the coolest. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Chewy is the best. That was back when Chewy was dangerous. We didn't know what he was going to do because Han Solo said he might kill. Killing you. Yeah, rip your arms off. Yeah, rip your arms off. And so that implies that he's ripped people's arms off. [00:53:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:33] Speaker C: So I would. I really would have liked to see Chewie go crazy somewhere in the Star Wars. Yeah, I would have liked. It's kind of like wharf in Star Trek. Everybody talk about how tough wharf is. And then he gets his ass kicked at the drop of a hat. And it's like, Chewbacca never really hurts anybody. He almost strangles Lando. That's about it, right? [00:53:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, there's like that moment in Empire where he freaks out when Han's getting. And he's like, hey, calm down. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Don't do it. [00:54:05] Speaker A: And he's like throwing oh, yeah. [00:54:06] Speaker C: He knocked them stormtroopers off. Yeah. Yeah. [00:54:10] Speaker A: But no, you never really see a wookie go. [00:54:12] Speaker C: Yeah, I want to see Go cuckoo. Grow nuts. Yeah. Oh, we forgot to talk about the little bat. [00:54:20] Speaker B: The little back. The little bat guy who's at the. The bar getting drink. He's a little back. [00:54:24] Speaker A: I love the little bad guy. He wants that drink. [00:54:27] Speaker B: That's his name. I'm sure. [00:54:28] Speaker C: He drinks it like Trump. He does this. Bigger hands. Yeah. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Oh, man. It's like M4. Oh, man. It's something like that. It's not. I, I'm losing it. But I, I. What? The purse. The John Fisher that played the Star wars trading card game in the 90s is very mad. They don't remember that guy's name, so I had that card. [00:54:52] Speaker C: I. Well, I come from a time where they didn't have names, so. [00:54:57] Speaker A: Right. [00:54:57] Speaker B: That was. That was one of the things that I loved. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Walrus Man. [00:55:03] Speaker C: Not Panda Baba or whatever his name is. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Panda Baba. And Doctor as well. Yeah. [00:55:08] Speaker C: I was like, that guy's a doctor. [00:55:12] Speaker B: I remember going to a sci fi convention at the. Wherever the Golden Driller is, Expo Square in Tulsa Square, and learning that, like, every character in Star wars has a backstory. [00:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:25] Speaker B: You only see them for, like, three seconds. It was just like, holy, this is the greatest. [00:55:30] Speaker C: Yeah. But, you know, I, I, you know, having worked with and knowing Larry Hama from GI Joe, you realize they. They just give that to a. A guy and he just makes all this stuff up himself, so it's like you don't know what you're gonna get. He like. So Larry wrote all the file cards for those GI Joe figures. And so the reason you think anything about them is because he just made up some. Something. He's like, oh, this guy seems like he's a. You know, that kind of. It's like he's not thinking about the lore or anything. He's just like, oh, this guy's Marine. I'm gonna make him so. That Marine is his whole personality, and that's what they do with the Star wars character, you know? Yeah. [00:56:15] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:56:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:17] Speaker B: Larry Hama seems like a really cool hand. [00:56:19] Speaker C: He is. He is really cool. He's like the coolest uncle, and we used to call him Uncle Larry. So. So. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:56:28] Speaker A: So we all meet up at the cantina. [00:56:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:30] Speaker A: And we go to space and we forget. [00:56:34] Speaker B: We forget the greatest. The opening quote, Johnny. We got the opening McClunkey, which was [00:56:40] Speaker A: added in the 6 version. [00:56:42] Speaker C: Why? Why? What? What does that mean? [00:56:45] Speaker A: Who knows? Like, and it was only. It wasn't even on the. There was a different cut on the Blu Rays. There was different than the special edition. [00:56:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:53] Speaker A: And then they added the Disney plus version. Only has the McClunkey. [00:56:57] Speaker C: It doesn't add anything to it version. [00:57:00] Speaker A: It was the version he made for the 3D release that was supposed to happen. That Disney cancel because he. Because they released episode one in 3D, and they never released any of the other ones after Disney bottom. And they're supposed to do all six over the course of, like, two years. They never did. Episode one came out in 3D in, like, I think probably, like, 2013, 2012, maybe. And then none of the other ones did. But these were the edits on Disney plus which have a little bit of changes, are the ones he made for the 3D release. So he wanted that McClunkey in there. I think he was like, we need that. Like, what is the. It's just so funny. [00:57:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:39] Speaker A: That's why. Great things. You got to release them. You just gotta. [00:57:42] Speaker B: You guys, you gotta let them go. [00:57:43] Speaker A: He's gonna let them go. [00:57:44] Speaker B: I still contend that it makes no sense to us to say that Greedo shot first. [00:57:49] Speaker C: I don't get that. So that was the thing. When I watched that in the theater, that was the first time I saw a Star wars thing that I was like, oh, hold on. [00:57:59] Speaker A: That is weird. And it was weird because he goes like. His head, like, moves. [00:58:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:03] Speaker B: Because it was badass that Han just shot him from under the table. [00:58:06] Speaker C: Yes. [00:58:06] Speaker B: That's. [00:58:07] Speaker C: Han is a murderer. Han is a murderer. If he thinks you're gonna kill him, he will kill you. And that's. That. That. I mean, so the Disney vacation of. Of Star wars happened before Disney. [00:58:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:58:23] Speaker C: It's like, it was the. He wanted it to be so broad that he could sell it forever to everybody. And. And, yeah. So when you do that, that's. That's why people who, you know, thought they were gonna get this badass Boba Fett TV show or, like, complaining. Oh, wait a minute. He's not a bad bad guy. [00:58:45] Speaker A: He's. Yeah. And. Yeah. Oh, man. [00:58:48] Speaker C: It. [00:58:49] Speaker A: It's. [00:58:50] Speaker B: There were some. There were some cool mod scooters, though. [00:58:55] Speaker C: Everything. But Boba Fett is great in that show. Yeah. [00:58:59] Speaker A: That scene where he's like. There's, like, a scene where he chases around a droid. I love that. [00:59:03] Speaker C: I mean, there's a reason why there's two whole episodes dedicated to another Mandalorian. Yeah. [00:59:12] Speaker A: Yeah. One of my favorite things about the Han Shot first thing is for I probably on purpose, but the day they did the on press, like behind the scenes press for Crystal Skull, George Lucas wore a Han shot first T shirt. [00:59:28] Speaker C: Oh, that's funny. That's real funny. [00:59:32] Speaker A: So in all the behind the scenes stuff for Indiana Jones, the Crystal skull, George Lucas is in a Han shot first T shirt. [00:59:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:39] Speaker A: And it's like, wait, you did that? What are you doing, George? [00:59:42] Speaker B: He's just a little stinker. [00:59:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. I, I, I just saw the, the breakdown of the first exhibits that are going in his museum, which is unfortunately not in Chicago. [00:59:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:54] Speaker B: Where did it end up going? Is it in LA or California? [00:59:57] Speaker A: I can't remember LA proper, but somewhere around there. [01:00:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:02] Speaker B: That really sucks. Been up here. [01:00:04] Speaker C: Yeah, it would have been cool, but it's already a nightmare to drive down there, so. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Oh, that's, that's the truth. That is the truth. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Well, Peter Cushing is so, it's so what? [01:00:15] Speaker B: So villainous. [01:00:17] Speaker A: He's great. We love, I love Tarkin. [01:00:19] Speaker B: He's so good. [01:00:21] Speaker C: Peter Cushing is the, I mean that's old school, dude. That's Christopher Lee and Lord of the Rings, man. You don't get that. You get the real deal to be one of these guys. It's like that's evil from a long time ago. That's like Vincent Price in Thriller. It's like you get the real dude. You don't get. And so, yeah, so he is evil. [01:00:49] Speaker A: It is funny. Like your spaceball thing. David. I encountered them both in the opposite order. You should, because like I didn't watch a Hammer horror movie until probably like 10 or 15 years. [01:00:59] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, sure, same. I, I, you know, so I saw [01:01:02] Speaker A: Star wars and Lord of the Rings first. I was like, who are these guys? Yeah, yeah, I was like, oh, they're in 40 movies together. [01:01:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean I was older before I obviously because Star Wars, I saw Star wars before I saw any of like, you know, those Hammer or you know the, yeah, the Doctor who stuff he was in and. Right. So, yeah. Or even like, like Christopher Lee's. Like I didn't watch any James Bond until I was older, so. Yeah, Yep. [01:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I am. It's so funny because like I love one of my favorite things is the new run of Fangoria. It's such a great physical thing to have. It's such a great, well produced magazine. Magazine. And I would always flip through a fangori at the newsstand, but I was always too scared and not allowed to get that. And I'd always be like, Ed Borders or like, oh, my God, look at this. I'd like freaking out and like, it's funny that, like, I like, I, I like horror stuff now. And like, I've, I'm fairly well versed, but like, there were many years where [01:02:06] Speaker C: it was, oh, I'm, I'm a late convert. I didn't start watching horror movies until the pandemic. And now I, I can't get enough. I'm like a. Yeah, I am a connoisseur now. But, yeah, I was, I was very late to, to. I drew a horror comic and I didn't like horror movies because they scared me, honestly. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Phantasm2 or maybe Child's Play 2 on Joe Bob Briggs on TNT back in the day was one of the first horror movies I saw and I didn't sleep like a week. Oh, the edited versions. [01:02:40] Speaker C: Phantasm was the worst because you, it's like if you're a kid and you wake up in the middle of the night and you watch one of those, you're like, did I dream that? Or is that a real thing? You know, that I saw? Because it's made to be like that. And. But that's a whole nother movie. [01:02:55] Speaker A: So. Yeah, [01:02:59] Speaker B: my thing as a kid was that if something scared me, I always thought it was going to be in my closet. [01:03:04] Speaker C: If. Yeah, sure. [01:03:05] Speaker B: I had to pretend like I was still asleep so the thing in my closet wouldn't come. [01:03:09] Speaker C: Darth Vader could be in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Darth Vader was scary to a lot of people. [01:03:15] Speaker A: Yeah, he, he. Now he's on, On a Burger King. [01:03:19] Speaker C: Yeah. All right. [01:03:22] Speaker B: He was a Burger King sandwich at one point. [01:03:25] Speaker C: When I was a kid, I used to think people that liked Darth Vader were evil too. I was just like, man, you like the bad guy. But anyway, so Peter Cushing is awesomely evil in that. And you were, you mentioned seeing him later and it's like I saw, When I saw him as a good guy and stuff, I was like, oh, he's so good as a good guy. Why isn't he just a good guy all the time? You know, it's like, it's weird to see him as a bad guy now, [01:03:54] Speaker A: but yeah, he's so good, you know, Van Helsing. [01:03:57] Speaker C: Yeah, Yep, yep. [01:03:58] Speaker A: The. The good guy to Christopher Lee's. Yeah, bad guy. [01:04:01] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:04:02] Speaker A: Fun fact is, evidently he wore slippers during the filming of all the Death Star scenes. It was very cold on the sound [01:04:08] Speaker B: stage and they didn't have the right size shoes. Yeah, like they were. They were like a size and a half too small or something like that. [01:04:13] Speaker A: So he's like, I'll just wear my slippers and. [01:04:15] Speaker C: Is that Pinewood? That's Pinewood Studios. [01:04:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:19] Speaker C: In England. Yeah. [01:04:21] Speaker B: I do like how chilling it is that he's just like, okay, now I'm just gonna blow up. Up this planet. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:26] Speaker C: Like what? [01:04:27] Speaker B: And it's like, nope, I gotta do it. That's the rules. [01:04:32] Speaker A: No, that's great. [01:04:33] Speaker C: That's. [01:04:33] Speaker A: That. That was always crazy processing that. Yeah. Far too trusting. I remember processing that. Be like, she. Her whole planet just got blown. [01:04:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:43] Speaker B: It's so. It's so hard to imagine. Like, that's. [01:04:45] Speaker C: A lot of you just genocided. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Yeah. All the Alderranians. [01:04:50] Speaker B: Oh, poor Jimmy Smith. [01:04:53] Speaker C: Jimmy Smith, Dead space Jimmy Smith. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Maybe he'll come back as a force ghost. [01:05:03] Speaker A: No, he'll come back as Benjamin Bratt. Did you know that in Andor season two, they recast. [01:05:09] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:05:10] Speaker A: With Benjamin Brad, the guy from the other cop show in the 90s. They're like, well, Jimmy Smith was in. When Jimmy Smith was in NYPD Blue. So like, let's get the guy from Law and Order. So they got Benjamin Brad and I'm like, are you just like, he's vaguely in a 90s cop show. He's the same guy. [01:05:28] Speaker C: But yeah. And that. [01:05:30] Speaker A: And that's the thing. Like, I don't know. That was weird because it was like online. He was like, oh, schedule. Jimmy Smithson never commented on it. He always said he loved playing bail. They recast measurement. [01:05:38] Speaker C: Brat. [01:05:39] Speaker A: And Dizzy was like, oh, his schedule didn't work out. It's like, you know, he asked for like, can I get a little more money? I've been doing this for like 20 years. They're like, now, yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately, that's how it goes. But they, they. So this is where. When I first saw Star wars, my grandma was like, star wars is on. We're gonna watch it. I don't know if it was taped off TV or was on tv, but I thought Star wars started when they came out of hyperspace and the. In the wreckage. Because that's the first time I saw it. That's where we started. And I was like, wow, this is crazy. Be getting to a movie. And so like, for at least a good year until I. I rented it. I think later when I was like five or six, I thought that Star wars was just when they get out of hyperspace to the death star blowing up. And that's what I thought. [01:06:24] Speaker C: Then you saw it. From the beginning. You're like, oh, they are still starting in the middle of this story. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Yeah, they are still just starting in the middle of whatever. [01:06:31] Speaker C: So when does this start? When does this start? [01:06:34] Speaker A: I love. Like, I just love Han Solo getting so mad at Luke. What's that flashing? He's, like, slapping his head. Yeah. [01:06:40] Speaker C: He hates. Hates that kid. And he hate. He hates Ben even more [01:06:46] Speaker B: because. Because he's. He owes him 17,000 credits. And he knows. He knows this old man's not worth it. [01:06:52] Speaker C: He knows. He knows that he's conning him. [01:06:54] Speaker B: He's not good for it. [01:06:54] Speaker C: Yeah. But. So I love these scenes because I freaking love the inside of Millennium Falcon. It is the coolest thing, but the smuggling compartments is the coolest fricking idea. I. I was in love with it when I was a kid. It's like, oh, it's a hiding spot. You know? It's like. [01:07:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. [01:07:16] Speaker A: I remember the toy had the little. [01:07:18] Speaker C: Yeah. And I was so mad that the chess table didn't make the holograms. [01:07:27] Speaker A: That. That's an iconic toy that, like, when they remade it, it was the same mold. And then when they really released in 1995, like, it was the same mold from the 78 or 79 Millennium Falcon. Like, and that's just an iconic. It was so big. I mean, it's, like the size of, like, huge. It's huge. [01:07:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:44] Speaker A: You could barely hold it as a kid. [01:07:46] Speaker C: It was so cool. Yeah, I think it was, like, $30. That was so expensive. [01:07:55] Speaker B: That was. That was. [01:07:55] Speaker C: That was a lot. [01:07:56] Speaker A: Yeah, in the, like, $30. [01:07:59] Speaker C: Mom's never gonna buy that, so. They did. They bought it. [01:08:03] Speaker B: You have to. You have to figure out how many. How many chores can I do without allowance? [01:08:07] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, [01:08:09] Speaker B: you got it. You got a bargain. I mean, I kind of miss. I kind of miss wanting something so much that I would strike a bargain just to get it. [01:08:18] Speaker A: So clean your car for two weeks. [01:08:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:21] Speaker A: Just get me that William Falcon. [01:08:23] Speaker C: Now, I didn't notice this when I watched it originally, of course, but I do notice it all the time now, how shiny that freaking floor is. Oh, when they land into the Death Star, it's. It's. [01:08:37] Speaker B: It's brand new. It's. [01:08:38] Speaker C: And that's a real. That's like. They're not faking that floor, are they? That's like, they had to build that at that point. So it's like. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that. I think that hanger set was. Yeah, that's a real set. [01:08:50] Speaker C: Like, crazy impressive. [01:08:51] Speaker B: It's Real nice. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Because there wasn't, you know, I, I, there's a funny fact that I guess Liam Neeson was so they only made the sets up the top of actors heads in the Phantom Menace. And Liam Neeson was so tall he added like $2 million to the production. [01:09:07] Speaker C: He's almost my height, so. Yeah, yeah, he's, I think. Well, he might be 6 5. I don't think he's 6 5. He might be like 63 or 6 something. But yeah, no guard rails and shiny floors. [01:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah. But mouse or droids. [01:09:24] Speaker C: Mouse or droids are cool. [01:09:25] Speaker B: I could, I could use, we could definitely use a mouse droid at work. Just tell people go that way. Just follow the droid. [01:09:33] Speaker C: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, it, Is that what it was for? [01:09:39] Speaker B: Yeah, they're, they're like, you follow them for directions. [01:09:42] Speaker C: That's. [01:09:43] Speaker A: I never knew. [01:09:44] Speaker B: Yeah, they're, they're navigations. Because the Death Star is so big, it's basically a moon size. It's like. [01:09:49] Speaker C: Oh, that's right. Yeah. [01:09:50] Speaker B: And it, it looks the same everywhere you go. So they've, it's like gps. [01:09:55] Speaker A: Okay. [01:09:56] Speaker C: So it, you, it is a moon that can fly places. It must be interrupting gravity on so many planets as it passes by. [01:10:09] Speaker B: It must be. [01:10:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like up weather patterns and stuff. [01:10:15] Speaker A: They can go into hyperspace, I think. [01:10:20] Speaker C: So they're doing, they're doing Millennium Falcon. They're trying to do calculations so that they don't run into a planet. And here's a planet flying around. [01:10:31] Speaker A: I mean, what an iconic line. That's no moon. That's a space. [01:10:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:10:35] Speaker A: That's, that's amazing. [01:10:38] Speaker C: That's cool. [01:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:10:41] Speaker C: Everything on, everything on the, on the Death Star is my favorite, you know. [01:10:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:47] Speaker C: Everything on there. Yeah. It was so cool. It's something I'd never seen before, you know? [01:10:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, there's just always that sense of danger. [01:10:56] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:10:57] Speaker A: I was, I was about to be caught. [01:10:59] Speaker C: That's, it was actually tense. Yeah, yeah. [01:11:02] Speaker B: Like, especially during the, the later scenes where there's the, the battle and they're shooting at each other. There's like nowhere, there's nowhere to hide on the Death Star. You're just like utterly exposed. [01:11:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:11:14] Speaker A: I love the detention block. I love the Dianaga. The little eye. [01:11:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Trash compatible. [01:11:20] Speaker C: I had this Death Star playset and it came with a Dianaga in it. Like so the compactor had like lots of little pieces of foam in it as like junk. And you put the Dianaga in there and you could press the walls in and stuff like that. [01:11:37] Speaker A: I just love that like on this man made thing in the middle of space. I'm assuming it like digests the trash or something. I'm assuming they put it there on purpose. [01:11:45] Speaker C: Maybe it's a genetics experiment that somebody just threw out. [01:11:50] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:11:50] Speaker A: But like, but that's what's so cool. Like we were talking the Toshi Station. Like there's an eyeball. There's an eyeball in the trash pack. [01:11:56] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. [01:11:57] Speaker A: You have to accept that and go along with it. It's just such a cool. [01:12:01] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. [01:12:01] Speaker A: Every scene has something you don't expect. [01:12:03] Speaker C: It's like if Alien, the movie was a, was just a cameo in another movie and you, you just never, you never heard anything about it again. It's like, what was that? Yeah, yeah. So Dianaga is like probably like terrorizing somebody else somewhere. [01:12:26] Speaker B: You could, you could, you could do a pitch. You could say, hey, I could do a Dianaga story. Dianaga origins. [01:12:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:12:36] Speaker A: Well, I heard. So I, I've. I think that you know, because I, I kept up with them a while. I think when they were doing like four, not the original. I read all the 2015 like trade paperbacks, but I was buying the individual issues in like 2020-2024 of Star Wars. And I think that for this run there's not going to be a flagship Star wars because I think the trades, you know, how do you. There's like four months or five months ahead. I think it's ending and I think it's just gonna be miniseries, which is, you know, kind of sad. [01:13:06] Speaker C: But yeah, I mean that was another good run. I mean the first series had a very long run. So. Yeah, that's pretty good. [01:13:15] Speaker A: They. Because Marvel got it and like there was a start. There was Star wars. There was the one that took place between. [01:13:23] Speaker C: It started right after the movie. It's like started late 70s and went [01:13:27] Speaker A: on Star wars and Empire. [01:13:29] Speaker C: Yep. [01:13:29] Speaker A: And then there's one that took. And then the second reboot took place between Empire and Return the Jedi. And that's what I was buying. Individual issues. And then they just like a year ago did the post Return of the Jedi, but I think that's coming to an end soon. I don't think they will be just a Star wars anymore. [01:13:48] Speaker C: I mean it's kind of like the movie, you know. [01:13:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:51] Speaker C: They're just doing all these little other things. I guess that makes sense. [01:13:54] Speaker A: They got to like the poster True to the Jedi and they're like they're like, trying to. How do we make this make sense? Make the Force Awakens to make sense? And they're like, oh, my God, how do we do this? Yeah, it's true. It's hard. [01:14:04] Speaker C: Like, it's. [01:14:04] Speaker A: You know, because I think they got to the Battle of Jakku, where, you know, Rey's home planet where all the wreckage is. And they just did that a year or so ago. But. But I haven't read any of those. I read the. I read. I read the Big War, the Bounty Hunters, and I read the. I always read the Charles Sewell stuff because he's one of the better, the best Star wars writers. His books and his comics are both great. His Kylo Ren stuff is amazing. [01:14:30] Speaker B: He's also good on she, Hulk, and. [01:14:33] Speaker A: What was that one series he did? [01:14:35] Speaker B: What, 8 billion genies? [01:14:37] Speaker A: That was great. [01:14:38] Speaker B: That was great. [01:14:38] Speaker A: That was amazing. No, there was one. Oh, it was like, they're in hell in a flaming. He basically had a lightsaber. But it was. It just started like, three or four years ago. [01:14:49] Speaker B: Oh, and Hell with the Flaming sword. Oh, boy. [01:14:52] Speaker A: Charles Sewell wrote it. [01:14:53] Speaker B: Oh, it's the one. Like, there were gold. [01:14:57] Speaker C: Gold pieces. [01:14:58] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:58] Speaker C: Gold pieces. [01:14:59] Speaker B: I know. I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember. [01:15:01] Speaker A: I can't remember the name. [01:15:02] Speaker C: I feel bad. [01:15:06] Speaker B: What? Oh, one of my favorite bits of dialogue after they stop the trash compactor. Luke's like, we're alive. We're good. [01:15:12] Speaker C: Where are we? [01:15:15] Speaker B: Doesn't know where he is because he wouldn't. [01:15:18] Speaker A: 384-3827. He tells him what trash compactor they're in. Into the garbage chute, flyboy. I remember that was a big point of contention with me and my brother was whether she said, when they go in the garbage chute, did she say, someone's gonna save us kids or someone's gonna save our skins? I think she said, someone's gotta save our skins. But I remember I was like, she says someone's gotta save us kids. My brother's like, no, she said, someone's gonna save our skins. I swear, arguing about that in, like, 1994 or something. Yeah. I mean, the rescue's great. The trash package. I mean, it's. What are you gonna. Him talking? Like, it's so hard to talk about this movie in, like, a podcast format because, like, I could talk about it forever. [01:16:01] Speaker C: Yeah, obviously, when he does the. [01:16:03] Speaker A: We're all good fine here. [01:16:05] Speaker C: Yeah. That was. [01:16:07] Speaker B: How are you? [01:16:08] Speaker C: There are. So it. Speaking of becoming a religion there you. You think of like, all these ultra cool moments that make these characters. And then you watch the movie again, you're like, it's only a certain amount of time. There's only this many scenes. You keep thinking, it's like, I know this person. It's like they're on screen for. It's not as in depth as you think it is. When you watch it again and again and again, it's just like, wow, that's how strong an influence this thing had. [01:16:45] Speaker B: You know, much, much like young, Young Boys In 1994, 1995, Rufio was in so much of hook. Now Rufio was in like four minutes of hook. [01:16:57] Speaker C: Right, right. [01:16:58] Speaker B: He felt like hook. You think of Rufio. [01:17:01] Speaker C: Yeah. I guess the biggest example of that in Star wars is Boba Fett because, like, he just shows up and then everybody's like, holy crap, this is the greatest character ever. And it's like, he's a costume. [01:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, he's a cool costume. [01:17:19] Speaker B: I think the. I think the. The Han Solo, Boba Fett. [01:17:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:17:23] Speaker B: Went a long way. Because if Han Solo's scared of him. [01:17:25] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. That's what it was. Yeah. Han was dangerous. [01:17:32] Speaker A: When they. They took the silhouette and the walk from the. The man with no Name from Good, Bad and the Ugly. He's like Clint Eastwood. He has the poncho, but he's like a cape. Like, he's just like this spaghetti western. [01:17:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:17:43] Speaker A: Preacher that. And like, what I loved about Star wars is, like, when you watch the movie, you don't know if he's like a lizard. You have no idea. You know, like, he could be just a man, but he could be not. [01:17:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Oh, dang. So I never. I never understood calling the Millennium Falcon a hunk of junk. [01:18:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:01] Speaker B: Like Princess Leia pointing out you flew. You flew in that. You're braver than I thought. I always thought it was amazing. [01:18:06] Speaker C: It looks amazing. [01:18:08] Speaker B: Everybody just shits on it. [01:18:09] Speaker C: It's one of the problems with the. The movie when you're a kid, you're like, what are you talking about out, lady? The cool. The cool stuff doesn't look that great, you know. [01:18:19] Speaker A: Well, she's used to, like, the silver Naboo. [01:18:21] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Yeah. Because, yeah, the. The. They all look all the. The junkier, the better looking they are to me. It's. It's like when. When people talk about how the. The storm troopers can't hit anything. And I was like, they literally say in this movie that the blaster marks are too accurate to Be sand people. I was like, where do people get that? Just because they don't actually hit any. The stars of the movie. Right. [01:18:57] Speaker A: Well, there's the. There's a whole. Like, I. I saw something on the Internet that was like, I want to see a lore accurate description of stormtroopers troopers. Like, it's a death unit killing people. Like, why do you want to see that? [01:19:10] Speaker C: I want to see Dangerous. [01:19:13] Speaker A: I don't want to see. I don't want to see that. [01:19:16] Speaker C: Yeah. I want to see actual. I want the Schindler's List. I mean, I want a Star wars concentration camp. That. That would be. [01:19:27] Speaker A: I'm so glad you said that about Andor. Because it's a good show. But, like, it's like, that's not what I go to. [01:19:31] Speaker C: No, I. I think there's a place for it. I think it's great. I think it should be that stuff. But also, I think it's just silly when people say that because they are missing the point of Star wars when they say that because it literally is about the Skywalkers. That's what Star wars is. The fact that they created this universe as a byproduct. That's a whole nother thing. [01:19:59] Speaker B: It's a soap opera about a single family. [01:20:01] Speaker C: Family. Yes. About a very dysfunctional family. [01:20:05] Speaker A: Very, very dysfunctional. [01:20:07] Speaker B: It's like space Brady's. [01:20:09] Speaker C: It's. Well, more like space or something. [01:20:17] Speaker A: One thing that cracks me up and they tried to, like, explain it in the Obi Wan Kenobi Show. [01:20:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:20:23] Speaker A: Is when he goes, only a master of evil. Darth. When the Obi Wan Kenobi show, he goes. He basically, I'm gonna call you. Darth is an insult. [01:20:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:20:31] Speaker A: So it makes sense in episode four. [01:20:33] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's just. [01:20:34] Speaker A: It's funny and it like. It does. It's one of those things you didn't think about. There wasn't supposed to be. Darth wasn't a title. That was just his name. [01:20:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:20:42] Speaker A: I remember when they announced his name was Darth Maul. I was like, what? I was a kid, I was like, this character is called Darth Maul. And this was like months before episode one came out. I was like, so Darth just like, whatever. [01:20:52] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Well, I think that became. That became canon way before that. [01:20:59] Speaker A: Well, because there's Darth Bane. [01:21:00] Speaker C: There's. There's a lot of. They. They decided that. I don't know when they decided it, but it was still pretty early on that they decided that Darth was a title. [01:21:12] Speaker A: I sure were being A little confused when I was, you know, a little boy and being like, what. What's going on here? [01:21:17] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I mean that. Yeah. That it's. I think the stuff that lasts about Star wars is the result of a. A great collaboration. I don't think if you went by George's initial stuff. I don't think any of us would like Star wars the way we do. [01:21:37] Speaker A: Oh, his original, like, screenplay was like unproducible and it was like, I don't [01:21:42] Speaker C: think any of us would like it. [01:21:45] Speaker A: And the original main character was Mace Windy with a Y, not Windu. He repurposed that name later, but it was about a Jedi named Mace Windy who was the. And that was like in his original draft. [01:21:56] Speaker B: Mace Windy City. [01:21:58] Speaker A: Mace Windy City. [01:22:02] Speaker B: He's our new superhero. [01:22:04] Speaker A: Well, as. What floor does he own? [01:22:06] Speaker B: Oh, so the. The Park Hyatt downtown where the pug that I used to. That I hospice fostered lived at the Park Hyatt, but George Lucas owns the 66th and 67th floor of that. [01:22:19] Speaker C: Oh, I didn't know that. [01:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:21] Speaker C: Wow. [01:22:22] Speaker B: Yeah, so. So I like to hold it over Johnny, that I'm potentially only one individual removed from having met George Lucas through. Because this dog definitely met George Lucas. [01:22:35] Speaker C: Jay Torres used to live in the same neighborhood as Jetty Lee. And he would tell me that he saw him walking his. His dog over every once in a while. I was like, you gotta get his autograph for me, man. [01:22:47] Speaker A: It's also very funny that he owns the order 66th floor. [01:22:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Well, you think you thought about that. [01:22:56] Speaker C: I mean, he's. [01:22:57] Speaker A: He's. He's probably embarrassed. [01:22:58] Speaker C: That's where I get a lot of my Battle Pug stuff is. Because a lot of that stuff is, you know, the dog's name, Indiana, that kind of thing. It's because you gotta use. [01:23:08] Speaker A: You gotta use what you know. [01:23:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:23:09] Speaker A: So I like. [01:23:10] Speaker C: All the characters I come come up with are usually road signs. When I'm driving on trips, it's usually names from road signs. [01:23:19] Speaker B: So there was a. There was a MODOC miniseries where there was a Modoc sibling created called modot, the mental organism designed only for talking. And I cannot drive through Missouri now without being. That's the. The highway. The highway. Whatever it is. [01:23:39] Speaker C: I used to tell. I used to tell people Mo's name. Mo's actual name was Modoc is like mental organism designed only for kibble. [01:23:51] Speaker B: Oh, he was designed for more than just kibble trash. [01:23:55] Speaker C: Yeah, that's right. I forgot he was all. He ate every. He Was a billy goat. [01:23:59] Speaker A: He. [01:24:00] Speaker B: He ate everything. [01:24:01] Speaker C: Am I the only person that doesn't. That was not like, gaga over the final battle in Star wars, the trench run and stuff. [01:24:12] Speaker A: Not my favorite part. I like it. [01:24:14] Speaker C: I'm not a. I wasn't like, I'm not a big. Like, I don't like. Like, I'm not a Top Gun guy. I don't like, like, airplane stuff. And that's kind. It was just a dog fight. And I. I'm much more of a like. My favorite part of it is when Han Solo comes out and shoots other people. [01:24:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. [01:24:32] Speaker C: Yeah. So I was never really into it. [01:24:35] Speaker A: I totally agree. Because I remember just by the 90s toys is I liked the action figure the 3 and 3, 4 in action figures. My brother like the little mini ships. [01:24:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:24:47] Speaker A: That's like, I was always about the characters and that and he was always about the ships. I was never a ship guy. And I totally agree because, like, I. I like. The trench run's cool. It's. When Han Solo comes in, it's so funny because, like, I. I don't. There's like a moment in your life I feel like where you start crying at movies. And I remember two towers, Lord of the Rings. Two towers. And I was in like, 11th grade when I was like, 17 or something. Unlocked that for me. I cried at Two Towers. I bald. And then I watched Star wars again. Every time when Solo comes in, I cry when he cut. [01:25:21] Speaker C: Really? Wow. [01:25:22] Speaker A: It's just. It's just like a joyous. It's such a joyous moment when he comes in, it's like, we're all clear. Kidding. Say, let's blow this thing. Go home. I just like tears. Like, I love it. [01:25:30] Speaker C: I wonder if I'll do that now. [01:25:32] Speaker A: It's amazing. I mean, it's amazing. [01:25:34] Speaker C: It is pretty cool. [01:25:35] Speaker A: Chewbacca and I used to watch it on the vhs. You couldn't even see him hit the Chewbacca. [01:25:39] Speaker C: But he's. [01:25:39] Speaker A: His arms going like this. You're like, what's he doing? He's like, oh, he's patting Chewbacca because he did it. And like that when he comes. Like, that is just. That is amazing storytelling that, like, it tells you everything you know about Han Solo. It pays off his arc in a second. [01:25:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:25:56] Speaker A: And like, it's just so brilliant. [01:25:59] Speaker C: Also also adds a little weight to why he. Darth Vader chose him as the guinea pig for the carbon. [01:26:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:08] Speaker C: He's like this guy. You stranded me in space, mother. [01:26:12] Speaker A: And that was I'm sure that that's an interesting choice because, like, when I, you know, started watching them, they all existed. But, like, that was really. I guess that was foresight on Lucas's part to be like. No, he's just. He's just out there. [01:26:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:25] Speaker A: Spinning in space. And it just. I mean, it's a cool sequence, but, like. Yeah, I. I'm much more character. [01:26:33] Speaker C: Guy. [01:26:34] Speaker A: Much. I always gravitate towards the Tatooine Death Star character stuff. Yeah, same, like the trench run, you know, I like it, but, like, it was never my. My favorite. [01:26:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, the. The lightsaber fight between Kenobi and. And Darth Vader is amazing. [01:26:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, that was. [01:26:55] Speaker A: She's just throwing out insults, like, constantly. [01:26:57] Speaker C: Yeah. When that happened, that changed everything. [01:27:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:03] Speaker C: Lightsaber. The lightsaber has got to be one of the. Oh, greatest inventions ever. Yeah. [01:27:13] Speaker A: I mean, it's so cool. [01:27:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:27:15] Speaker A: We still love a lightsaber. I did. If they make. If this Mandalorian Grogu comes out, it will be the first Star wars movie without a lightsaber, because there's. In Rogue One, Vader hacks up that hallway. In Solo, Darth goes up and turns on his lightsaber. So, like, I'm like, if they can do it, it. We'll see. But I. I get, like, at the end, like, a CG Mark Hamill comes out, and it's like, I'm gonna turn on my lightsaber. We'll see if they can do it. [01:27:46] Speaker B: Or maybe. Maybe Grogu will find a lightsaber and he'll do the. [01:27:50] Speaker A: No, that's totally what's gonna happen. He's gonna get a lightsaber. I didn't think about that. [01:27:54] Speaker B: He's gonna. He's gonna find Yoda's lightsaber. [01:27:56] Speaker A: Dude, that's the ending. I have no idea. Obviously, there aren't any spoilers out for it, and I don't know, but, like, that is probably. You probably just nailed the ending. [01:28:04] Speaker B: Probably movie. [01:28:05] Speaker A: It probably is. Grogu's like, here's your little nightsaber Grogu. He's like, ah. [01:28:12] Speaker B: He just uses it to catch the [01:28:14] Speaker A: Mandalorian's just, like, shaving with it. [01:28:18] Speaker C: That's hilarious. [01:28:20] Speaker A: I wonder if I, I. I didn't think about that, but I wonder if. Do you think I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say he gets his lightsaber in this movie, and because they're. They're lit, it's literally impossible for them to make. Make A move. Because they said Rogue One would be the first movie without a lightsaber. There are interviews, they're talking about it. It has a lightsaber. But why would you. Why would you not put a lightsaber in it? [01:28:43] Speaker C: I. I think. I think lightsabers are kind of necessary. [01:28:48] Speaker A: They're. They're Star. I mean, that's Star. [01:28:50] Speaker C: It is Star Wars. [01:28:52] Speaker A: It's the family saga. It's the lightsaber. It's the character. [01:28:56] Speaker C: You don't even need to have Jedi. You just use lightsaber is fine. Dude. [01:29:01] Speaker A: The coolest thing when I was a kid is when Han Solo cuts open. [01:29:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:29:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:29:05] Speaker C: When other people. When. When Finn uses it. [01:29:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:29:11] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [01:29:12] Speaker A: That's amazing. [01:29:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it's like that. That. That's one of the coolest moments in Star wars, actually, because, you know, this guy knows he's gonna get his ass kicked. He's scared of the thing he's holding, but he's like, still, there's. There are a lot of great moments in those new three movies like that. Yeah. [01:29:33] Speaker A: I mean, Force Awakens like that. The. That forest battle. [01:29:37] Speaker C: Yeah. I love. I love Force Awakens. Last Jedi has a lot of cool moments in it. [01:29:43] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [01:29:45] Speaker C: And Rise of Skywalker has that ending [01:29:49] Speaker A: as Bob has Babu. [01:29:51] Speaker B: It's got Babu Frick. [01:29:52] Speaker C: Babu Fruit's okay. [01:29:54] Speaker B: Star Wars. Cenobites. Just. Okay. [01:29:57] Speaker C: They're okay. I like Babu Frik. I like Babu Frick a lot. But it's so funny. It's like, literally the only thing I can like. Oh, well, there's something. But I like the ending in the desert of Rise of Skywalker. [01:30:13] Speaker A: But. [01:30:13] Speaker B: Okay, is Rise of Skywalker the one that has Dabousque, or is that the Last Jedi? [01:30:18] Speaker A: That's the last Jedi. [01:30:19] Speaker B: Okay. I love Doug, this guy that puts [01:30:21] Speaker A: his coins in the BB8 thinking, [01:30:25] Speaker C: oh, I really. [01:30:26] Speaker B: By Mark Hamill. [01:30:28] Speaker C: I. Yeah, I really. I really hate that whole sequence. But, yeah, they're like funny moments. I. I hate that that sequence is in there. I. There's a. That whole part of the movie of the. The Escape from the Star Destroyer is a whole. It sucks. Yeah. [01:30:48] Speaker A: But it's really cheap because you can't set up. I like that movie a lot. [01:30:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:30:53] Speaker A: But I. It is so cheap because you can't set up. Your central conceit is you're in this chase with two vehicles where you can't escape. And then escape. They just escape. [01:31:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:31:02] Speaker A: And come back. [01:31:02] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like, why are they not all getting off? Like, that. [01:31:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Just all go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Yeah, get them all off. [01:31:10] Speaker C: Yeah. And then there's the starter screen where it blows up the cruiser. And then you see them all at the casino. [01:31:14] Speaker A: You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all just, like, playing the casino. [01:31:19] Speaker C: We're gonna fund the whole rebellion here. [01:31:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:31:24] Speaker A: And that is. That is the weirdest choice in that movie. [01:31:27] Speaker C: Yeah. It doesn't. [01:31:28] Speaker A: I know. It's really controversial online. I love it. [01:31:31] Speaker C: But. [01:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that part is just like. You can't sit up your central. You have a closed bottle chase. [01:31:36] Speaker C: Yeah, it's wild. It's wild because when I tell people is like, yeah, that's the. That's why I don't, like. [01:31:44] Speaker A: I don't care. I love what they did with Luke. [01:31:48] Speaker C: It would have been awesome if Luke did something else. But Luke did something no Jedi has ever done before. Right. He did the most powerful thing a Jedi could do. So he went out. [01:32:04] Speaker A: He took down. He went out on top without him being there. [01:32:08] Speaker C: Yeah, he went out on top. [01:32:09] Speaker A: Well, I just love. It's. It's a good story. It's such a good foil to Kylo Ren. It's like, how can. You can't. You could. He could kill him. He could fight him. He could kill Luke. [01:32:20] Speaker C: Luke. Kill him. [01:32:21] Speaker A: Whatever. To embarrass him on that scale. [01:32:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:24] Speaker A: Is the most epic thing, and it is a. [01:32:28] Speaker C: It's a closed arc. He. He. He started out a young punk. He tries to be what he thinks he's supposed to be. He gets disillusioned, and then ultimately becomes the wizard he's supposed to be, you know? Yeah. [01:32:47] Speaker A: But he's just a little boy in this one, and he's adorable with his blonde hair. I always love at the end when they come back from the Death Star and he screams, care, Carrie. Because he. I guess it's like a legendary thing. It's like when he sounds like kind of like, hey. [01:33:00] Speaker C: But he says. [01:33:01] Speaker A: He says, carrie. He's just, like, in the moment and calls. He calls Leia Carrie. [01:33:07] Speaker C: Yeah. I love that whole yavin. Is it yavin? Yeah. Yeah. That. All that stuff looks awesome. [01:33:15] Speaker A: My. [01:33:16] Speaker B: My question has always been, did they take over ruins on this planet, or were they already there? [01:33:21] Speaker C: There? [01:33:21] Speaker A: Yeah, the ruins were there, and they took them over. [01:33:24] Speaker B: Okay, so they. So they were ruins. [01:33:26] Speaker A: Yeah, the Massasi ruins, as they're called. [01:33:29] Speaker C: Wouldn't that be weird? Like, that's essentially like us setting up shop in. In, like, Kilkenny Castle or something like that. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. [01:33:43] Speaker A: And then it ends when Chewbacca doesn't get a medal. [01:33:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:33:47] Speaker A: And that amazing John Williams triumphant. [01:33:51] Speaker B: Not only not only does Chewbacca not get a medal, but we also see that they did resuscitate R2D2 because he gets. [01:33:59] Speaker A: It made him shiny. [01:34:00] Speaker B: He get, he gets kablowed. And then everybody's like, oh, no, R2D2's dead. And young David very concerned. Very good. [01:34:07] Speaker A: I mean, C3PO says he will donate parts if they need them. [01:34:10] Speaker C: He would. You know what? This is embarrassing him. I was a full on adult before I noticed he had a silver shin. Yeah, I never, I thought he was just all gold. I never. And in fact, I thought that the action figure I had was defective. I thought, I thought that there was something wrong with it. I did not realize he had a silver freaking leg. [01:34:34] Speaker B: He's part of that ultimate George Lucas saying the universe needs to be lived in kind of thing is literally spare parts. [01:34:42] Speaker A: But only in this movie, in. In all the other ones, he gets fixed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he gets fixed. He's the red arm. He's the red Arm. [01:34:51] Speaker B: The red arm that you can't, you can't. You can't recognize him with the red arm because he looks so different. I gotta say. The, the, the graphics that both the rebels and the Empire are using to, to depict the same thing. Like the, the Death Star being within firing range. So, so great. [01:35:11] Speaker C: It looks like Asteroids. Remember Asteroids? Yeah, that's what it looked like. [01:35:17] Speaker A: I love that, Like, I love that, like Ridley Scott alien future tech that has that like screened. I love that stuff. Yeah, that's. That, that's also my favorite. [01:35:28] Speaker C: It is wild because that's the only point in that where it looks like they're on the same, same playing field though. It's like, you think the Empire would have better technology. [01:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah, well, but there's, there's does look like hellfire. So they got, they got, they got the, they got the theming. At least that's what they spent all their extra money on. [01:35:48] Speaker C: Yeah, it's just lights. They're like YouTubers. Get all the lights and they'll make us look evil. [01:35:56] Speaker A: And I do love Moff Tarkin's arrogance where he's like, evacuate in our moment of triumph. [01:36:03] Speaker C: That says that's his. That's his final moment. Yeah, he's looking out a window. [01:36:10] Speaker B: I love the, I love the, like the gunners on the Death Star. Their helmets that are just like. [01:36:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it looks like they put it on wrong. Yeah, like they couldn't get it to. To sit right. It's like I'm just going like this. [01:36:26] Speaker B: Just leave it. Just leave it. [01:36:28] Speaker C: It. Ion cannon. Ion cannon operator. I had one of those. [01:36:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they gotta. You gotta get all of them. [01:36:37] Speaker B: Gotta get them all. [01:36:38] Speaker C: I never had all of them. Pokemon. I was one of those guys who. The mom sold the toys in the garage sale when I went off to college kind of thing. [01:36:47] Speaker A: You know, I've been very sad looking how much Jurassic park toys are worth now after many garage sales. Sales. [01:36:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I could have. [01:36:55] Speaker A: I could retire with my real feel skin. T. Rex. [01:36:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:36:59] Speaker A: 1993. [01:37:00] Speaker C: I got. I got a friend that has a vintage toy store and I could have probably cleaned up, but all of that in Chicago. Yeah. Toy du jour, Sam. [01:37:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:37:10] Speaker B: Toys. [01:37:10] Speaker A: Yours. Amazing. Yeah. [01:37:11] Speaker C: Yeah, my buddy Sam runs that. Him and Liz. [01:37:13] Speaker A: Oh, great. He's awesome. [01:37:15] Speaker B: It's a real good story. [01:37:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, there he's. He's an expert. He always has been. He was the. The store operator for Devil's Due when I worked there when we were doing GI Joe. And he's like the biggest expert on GI Joe figures you've ever seen. He knows everything. So, yeah, he's. [01:37:34] Speaker A: I remember buying in the box Sam and Twitch action figures. And he laughed heartily. I wonder if anyone would buy these. And I was like, I have a Spawn podcast. He's like, okay, [01:37:50] Speaker C: yeah, Sam will. Sam will judge you, but he'll. He won't make you mad about it. He's like, he's. [01:37:57] Speaker A: The first thing he said is I have this 300 spawn behind the counter. [01:38:00] Speaker C: I was like, no, no, no. [01:38:03] Speaker A: I want the eight dollar salmon Twitch. I'll take the eight dollar. Save Twitch over the Swan, definitely. But as we are a Swan podcast, what we do every episode is rate the issues we've read. Do not read any issues today. [01:38:17] Speaker C: No, I only own two issues of Spawn. Really? [01:38:21] Speaker A: Which issues you own? [01:38:22] Speaker C: I own the first issue and I have the one with Cerebus. [01:38:28] Speaker B: Okay, issues one and ten then. Nice. [01:38:31] Speaker A: Well, that's all you need. [01:38:35] Speaker B: I mean, I would beg to differ because you can't follow along on the podcast if you only have two ashes. She is also. Also, those two were covered in the. When we were still figuring out how to edit. [01:38:48] Speaker A: Don't listen to those episodes. I didn't have a real mic. One of them was recorded on not a mic. [01:38:54] Speaker B: Well, fortunately, we have a real mic with us today for the first time ever, actually. Holy crap. [01:39:00] Speaker C: We've never had a real mic. [01:39:01] Speaker B: It's True. [01:39:02] Speaker A: But. [01:39:03] Speaker B: And unfortunately for this bit, Johnny, usually the dogs have gone crazy at this point and I've had to yell at them. [01:39:08] Speaker C: Them. [01:39:10] Speaker B: So then I just refer to them because we got to rate the puppies, but I haven't gotten. There's been no duck. So I'm just shoehorning in a puppy's joke without. We got to rate this puppy, though, Johnny. [01:39:23] Speaker A: It's time to rate Cooper. [01:39:27] Speaker C: I have a puppy. [01:39:29] Speaker A: There's a puppy. [01:39:31] Speaker B: I've been watching that dude run around in the background. [01:39:34] Speaker C: He's. He's a nightmare. He's a nightmare. I love him. [01:39:38] Speaker A: I love a tuxedo. [01:39:40] Speaker C: He kisses me all the time. He's. Yeah, he is the most dog, like, cat I've ever owned. [01:39:46] Speaker A: And so for this episode, David, it might be time to rate the kitty. [01:39:50] Speaker B: Okay, we can rate the kitty. We can. We can rate the kitty on. Regarding Star Wars, Johnny. That's what we can. [01:39:57] Speaker A: So let's see. Rating. So every episode, Mike, we rate, rate the issues. One out of five. And Star wars, one of the greatest movies of all time. What would I possibly rate it out of 5? [01:40:11] Speaker C: 4 point. [01:40:12] Speaker A: I've been rewatching it. I had a blast. I love this movie. It reminds me of my whole life. Like, I. Like, I could talk for five more hours if we wanted to, but. Yeah, no one wants to hear that. And I gotta do some stuff. I. This movie started it all for a reason. It is a masterclass in propulsion of storytelling and world building and joy and excitement. I just. Star wars is like one of my favorite movies, so I'm gonna give it four and a half. No, five out of five. I'm gonna. Five out of five. McClunkeys. Yeah. [01:40:59] Speaker B: Wonderful. David, would you like to go second or last? Mike? [01:41:03] Speaker C: I can. I can go now. I mean, Star Wars. Star wars transcends rating for me. It. It's like, it's. Seriously. It's like, you know, people talk about like the Beatles, you know, and the like being their favorite band. And for me, the Beatles wasn't a favorite. It just was there. It was just always been there. And Star wars has been there since. And it. It is like the reason I do what I do. It inspired me to make things. So I doesn't get a rating. I mean, if it did, it's five, but it's beyond that. [01:41:48] Speaker A: Oh, it's beyond. [01:41:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it's beyond five. It's. It's the reason I do what I do. And. And the thing is, I can see flaws with it. I can. I Can actually be critical of it, but it still doesn't matter because it gave me that, you know? So it's beyond. [01:42:07] Speaker B: It's beyond. It's beyond. I'm trying to think of a Thunderdome in the Star wars universe, but I can't quite get there. [01:42:17] Speaker C: That Dave gives it a 3.5. [01:42:21] Speaker B: I have to be. I have to be a realist. [01:42:23] Speaker A: No, no. [01:42:23] Speaker B: There's my favorite. My favorite Star wars thing is always whatever Star Wars I am currently watching, I don't give a how bad it is. Even. Even if it's abysmal and difficult to watch, I'm still excited to be in a Star War. So. Yeah, it's definitely getting. It's definitely getting 5y wings. [01:42:49] Speaker A: I love A Y wings. Everybody loves. They're chunky. I love them. [01:42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, B wings are pretty cool too. But. But those don't. [01:42:59] Speaker A: They have so little screen time. You barely see a B wing. [01:43:02] Speaker B: I was to. To call back to an earlier conversation. I was a. I was a ship boy. [01:43:08] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:43:09] Speaker B: So. So we had the. We had the galoob action fleet, me and my friends, and that's what we played with at recess. [01:43:16] Speaker A: I like the A wing. I always like the A wing. [01:43:18] Speaker C: A wing's pretty good. It's basically a snow speeder. Right? [01:43:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like. It's, like, fast. [01:43:23] Speaker C: Yeah. But yeah, the B wings, those are the bombers, right? You see those? [01:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, those. Yeah, because they. They do the. I love the ones that do the position shift. [01:43:32] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:43:33] Speaker B: Like Boba Fett's ship. [01:43:36] Speaker A: Oh, sorry, can we say it? Disney Slave 1. See, that's the other thing. Yeah, he's a villain. He's murdered probably thousands of people. He would call his ship something terrible. Like Slave 1. It's fine. But now it's just Boba Fett. [01:43:51] Speaker B: But that one. That one was awesome because of the. [01:43:54] Speaker A: Oh, it was amazing. And that was such a cool toy, too. It had a handle on the back. [01:43:58] Speaker C: Yeah, not the. [01:44:00] Speaker B: Not the one I had. The one I had was, [01:44:03] Speaker A: well, the action figure one. [01:44:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:44:05] Speaker A: It would land. But it did pick it up and have a handle. [01:44:07] Speaker B: It did have a little miniature Han Solo and carbonite that you could push up the ramp. [01:44:11] Speaker C: Oh, that's cool. Yeah. [01:44:14] Speaker A: What a great iconic moment. The book of Boba Fett, where he sees the. That's my starship. It's just like. It's just ridiculous. It's just ridiculous. It's like. [01:44:26] Speaker C: Okay, well, you know, he. They never call it that in the movie. [01:44:30] Speaker A: So. Yeah. That's true. [01:44:32] Speaker C: So it's not. That's not such a. A loss. [01:44:36] Speaker A: But then give it another name. [01:44:38] Speaker C: Yeah, sure. [01:44:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:44:41] Speaker C: I mean, how many ships other than Millennium Falcon get a name in these movies? [01:44:47] Speaker A: Not in the movies. [01:44:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:48] Speaker A: I don't think any. [01:44:49] Speaker C: They don't. [01:44:50] Speaker B: Because, I mean, anything else, it would be like Darth Vader's TIE fighter. [01:44:53] Speaker C: Yeah. They all have names. [01:44:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:56] Speaker B: Like all. [01:44:57] Speaker A: One is the. [01:44:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:58] Speaker A: Admiral Akbar ship is home. One. [01:45:00] Speaker C: Yeah. All of the. All of the Star Destroyers have names. [01:45:06] Speaker A: Executor. And then. Yeah, a few. And then all the bounty hunter ships that aren't even show to the movies have names because I remember Boss was the Houndstooth, and I thought that was cool. [01:45:17] Speaker B: Nice. [01:45:18] Speaker C: I. I would think you would think that's insulting because he's got. [01:45:21] Speaker A: The boss is like, why do you name it? Let's bring Boss back. What about Book of Boss? [01:45:30] Speaker C: Book of Boss? Did you ever read the. The Novel of the Tales of the Bounty Hunters? [01:45:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:45:41] Speaker C: Kevin J. Anderson about Dengar's wedding. [01:45:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Dengar has a Marlow, his wife's name's [01:45:48] Speaker C: Maru, and Boba Fett, they fly in. That's how Boba Fett gets out of the sarlacc pit. They save him so that he can be best man in their wedding. [01:46:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's true. [01:46:04] Speaker C: It's true. I have that book right over there somewhere. [01:46:08] Speaker A: Somewhere. [01:46:09] Speaker B: That's some of the. That's some of the best that you get with Star Wars. [01:46:12] Speaker A: Well, in IG88 stories, he uploads his consciousness to Death Star 2, and he's gonna become the most powerful being in the universe, and it gets blown. [01:46:21] Speaker C: That's actually a good story. That's a good. Yeah, yeah. [01:46:25] Speaker B: That's. That's awesome. [01:46:26] Speaker A: I always like RG, IG88, all the bounty hunters. [01:46:28] Speaker C: You know, I never understood IG88 until I saw Mandalorian. I was like, oh, I get it. I see how. I see how that's dangerous now. Yeah. [01:46:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, that's Star wars, all right. [01:46:43] Speaker B: That is Star Wars. [01:46:44] Speaker C: So I'm gonna go watch this movie. It sounds great. [01:46:47] Speaker A: I've been. [01:46:48] Speaker B: I've been. I've been watching it while we've been talking. [01:46:51] Speaker C: Oh, that's funny. That's awesome. [01:46:52] Speaker A: Oh, wow. So, David. [01:46:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:46:56] Speaker A: What a business. What do we always. [01:46:58] Speaker B: What kind of business do we. We gotta. [01:47:00] Speaker A: What do we do at the end? [01:47:00] Speaker B: So. So normally. Normally we like to introduce listeners to another member of the Spawn unity, as we call it. But. But right now we're talking about the Star wars munity. So we just want to introduce you to Mike. So if you. If you know who Mike is, excellent. If you don't know who Mike is, look him up. Mike, where can people find you and what kind of projects do you have going on that people should do to support you monetarily? [01:47:30] Speaker C: Well, crypto came out a while ago, but the trade is out. You can go buy the trade of Crypto. Last Dog of Krypton. I'm working on some stuff that won't be out for. For a while, so I can't really tell you to go buy that, but I hate mike.com is my stuff. Battlepug.com you can buy my newest Battle Pug book that was kickstarted and I have a store where you can buy the book there. It's a hardcover book and it comes with some stickers and stuff like that. But, yeah, that's what I'm doing. If you play Fortnite, I do some of the screens that load when you're playing. [01:48:09] Speaker A: Yeah, nice. Star wars is going big on Fortnite. They just. [01:48:13] Speaker B: They're. [01:48:13] Speaker A: They're. Yeah, they announced kind of a Star wars world. [01:48:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Fortnite is essentially the oasis from Ready Player One at this point. [01:48:24] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. It's so funny because my nephews who are 12 and 9, he bought. He spent money on Master Chief and Halo. Didn't know who he was. He's the Xbox. He called him the Xbox guy. He's like, he looks cool. I like the Xbox guy. I was like, master Chief. He's like, yeah, whatever. [01:48:45] Speaker C: He's a Boba Fett. [01:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah, he's Boba Fett. [01:48:48] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [01:48:49] Speaker A: I mean, Master Chief probably wouldn't exist without Boba Fett. [01:48:51] Speaker C: Yeah, that's absolutely true. [01:48:53] Speaker A: That's the thing is you can trace, like, there's so many. [01:48:55] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. There's so many. [01:48:56] Speaker A: Rosetta stone for pop culture. Almost past 1977. [01:49:00] Speaker C: Yeah. If. [01:49:01] Speaker B: If I could. If I could give you a pitch, Mike, really quick. I know a colleague of yours recently did Superman vs. Lobo, the Last Two Sons. You could pitch a crypto and whatever Lobo's dog would be miniseries. The last. [01:49:17] Speaker C: Oh, what, that little bulldog guy? That would be. Yeah, I'll talk to Ryan about it. You know, Crypto did pretty well, so I. I hope they do some more of that kind of stuff. So, yeah, I'm trying to. [01:49:31] Speaker A: Movie coming out. [01:49:31] Speaker C: I'm trying to corner my little market of. Of DC Animals. [01:49:37] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. On that. On that topic, is there a. Is There a dog property that you are very upset you missed out on being able. [01:49:46] Speaker C: Yeah, Lockjaw. I wanted to work on that series, but. But, yeah, I. They didn't. Well, there's a whole story behind it. I don't want to get into the [01:49:59] Speaker A: more important question since you are a newfound horror fan. Have you seen Good Boy? [01:50:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I have seen Good Boy. I have seen Good Boy. It's amazing. The whole story behind it is like. It's crazy because it took him so long to make that movie and the dog is actually the director's dog and that's how he got him to do all the stuff in there is. Because, you know, it's like, like. And all of it's practical. He's not. There's. There's only like one digital thing in that movie, and it's because he had to jump through a window and he was gonna make his dog. [01:50:32] Speaker A: So. Yeah, I heard the filming was. Well, I heard. I read in my Fangoria magazine that it was 404 hour days of shooting. [01:50:41] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. [01:50:42] Speaker A: It's actually only four hours. [01:50:44] Speaker C: It's pretty impressive. It's. It's. It's not the. It's not gonna set the world on fire, but for what it is, it is an enjoyable horror movie. It's. It's not like something people have really seen, so it's different enough. [01:50:59] Speaker B: It's on my list of things to watch that I keep forgetting to look up when I sit down on the couch to watch. [01:51:04] Speaker C: And you will be on the edge of your seat, mainly because you don't want anything to happen to that dog. Yeah. [01:51:11] Speaker B: So is it as anxiety inducing as in a violent manner is where you're following the killer around, or is it a little less anxiety induced? [01:51:23] Speaker C: It's actually a little more because I found. I found in a violent nature. Okay. Because there's long stretches where he's just like looking at the woods, like, okay, this is like a nature documentary right now. But yeah, there's not a moment where you're not like, what is that? What is that in the corner over there? [01:51:43] Speaker A: Don't hurt that dog. [01:51:45] Speaker C: Yeah, don't hurt that dog. [01:51:48] Speaker A: Well, one dog we don't ever want to hurt is Lonnie Bones. He does our music. [01:51:52] Speaker B: Absolutely. You could, you could find him on the Internet. Just Google Lonnie Bones. You can find us on the Internet. If you're looking at Lonnie Bones, if you're looking at Mike's stuff just on Instagram at. Regarding Spawn pod, you can send us Emails at regarding spawn podmail.com Mike, we have a. We currently have a contest going where I have a Violator trade paperback from 1993 or of the 1993 series that if people send us an email to just say, hey, I want it, we'll send it to them. You could claim it right now if you wanted to claim this wonderful Alan Moore pinned Violator miniseries and clear it off our docket. But if not, we'll let people continue to send us. [01:52:37] Speaker C: I think it deserves a better home than mine. [01:52:42] Speaker A: This was. Thank you so much for coming on. [01:52:44] Speaker C: Oh, no, thank you. I'm glad I could do it. [01:52:47] Speaker B: This is. We. We have one Star wars episode a year because if we didn't, Johnny would make the whole podcast Star. It's. It's hard to talk about anything without getting into Star wars. And this is our. Our outlet. [01:52:59] Speaker C: It. [01:53:00] Speaker B: Because if we had to make another Star wars podcast. No, the world doesn't need another. [01:53:04] Speaker C: Yeah, they really don't. [01:53:06] Speaker A: You want to be the 5, 000 Star wars one of two spawn pods. Yeah, that's. That's the question. [01:53:13] Speaker B: That is the question. [01:53:14] Speaker A: We were the first, though. [01:53:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:16] Speaker A: There's another one now. [01:53:17] Speaker B: Yeah. So this was. This was absolutely wonderful. I loved talking to you about. About Star Wars, Mike. I always love talking you to. To you, Johnny. And so since I've got nothing else to say, I've just. Johnny. Mike. May the Force be with you. [01:53:32] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:53:33] Speaker A: May the Force be with you, David. [01:53:35] Speaker C: And also with you. And also with you. [01:53:39] Speaker A: Darth. Darth. Darth. [01:53:42] Speaker B: Darth. [01:53:43] Speaker A: I call someone Mr. Only a Master of Evil. Mister. [01:53:48] Speaker B: Could you imagine, like, Star wars kids coming up? Mr. Darth Vader, sir. Mr. Darth Vader, sir pulling on his cape. [01:53:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:53:55] Speaker B: Because he's got to be a minor celebrity at least, right? [01:53:58] Speaker A: You think Uncle Owen gets annoyed going into town? Everyone's like, you're a Jedi. [01:54:02] Speaker B: Help us. [01:54:02] Speaker A: He's like, I'm not a Jedi. I'm a moisture farmer. God damn it. [01:54:05] Speaker C: He's getting pulled over to settle disputes all the time. [01:54:13] Speaker A: Clone wars thing. It's like, I thought that was like 50 years ago. It's like 19. [01:54:18] Speaker C: Yeah, it's 20. That's so. So, yeah. Tatooine does shit like a generation ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's rough living. [01:54:26] Speaker A: I always assumed Darth vader was, like, 80, and he's like. You find out he's like 40 in the movie. He's like 43. [01:54:34] Speaker B: Well, I mean, most of his parts are only like 7 or 8 years old. So, [01:54:40] Speaker C: Ralph living. [01:54:41] Speaker A: Time to switch out my parts. [01:54:44] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you again very much for doing this. This mic. [01:54:47] Speaker C: Oh, sure. I love y'. All. Bye. Bye, Sam.