Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Heaven, Hell. They both think you're just a diseased animal that needs to be wiped out like everything else on Earth.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Foreign.
[00:00:43] Speaker A: And welcome to the Malibu. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I am your co host, John Fisher.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: And I'm your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, I thought you were having a little bit of lag there. I was concerned. Concerned?
[00:00:58] Speaker A: No, I was plugging in my devices, David.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: I was concerned for the fidelity.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: No, I, I, I was, I, I. When I got on Zoom, when I started to record, I had nothing plugged in because. David.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: Huh?
[00:01:11] Speaker A: I had. And I wanted to say this for the show. I was almost falling through this information, but I had to use my computer for my new Diablo build because the new expansion just came out and. What are you laughing at? That's not funny.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: I thought it was gonna be something much more momentous.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: No, Diablo 4.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: The fact that you were like, I want to save it for the show. It's important. It's momentous. I was like, ooh, yeah, what kind of juicy. What kind of juicy cheese may is this gonna be?
[00:01:42] Speaker A: I'm level 20. I'm a warlord. It's really fun. You shoot like purple demons at people.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Well, you shoot demons at people?
[00:01:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Oh, that's dope.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: You, like, summon demons and, like, send them.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: You like the Necromancer with demons instead of skeletons.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: So a demon demon answer.
That doesn't work very well.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: Warlord, David Warlord. No, Warlock. Warlock. Sorry.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Warlock. Warlord.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I am a warlord.
But the plot's really good. It's a new expansion.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: So you're the seventh son of a seventh son of a seventh son.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: Well, you're just some random character that's like the hero, like you always are. But the plot around you is good and, like, it's a good hook. So the end of the last game, Mephisto, which is one of like, he's like, Diablo's like, brother or something.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Kit. Fisto.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Mephisto. I wish it was kid.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Fisto.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: You try to derail me?
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: He takes over the Lord of Acarat, who in the world of. Because Diablo is very like, Christian, but, like, everything has different names. Acara is basically Jesus and he's been dead. And Mephisto, like, uses you on accident to get into the body of Acarat. So you're basically fighting like Devil Jesus this whole game. It's really fun plot, and it's fun.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: That's neat. Devil Jesus never loves him.
[00:02:58] Speaker A: The public loves him. They hate you in the game. And you're like, Give me a break, man. There's a demon in him like you and like two other people know.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: Interesting. Interesting.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Oh, guys, the monks. We should probably. Child molester. So it's like, you know, no one's gonna believe him.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: Speaking of monks, did you see that? South Korea, just like, what? Initiated, ordained their first AI robot monk.
[00:03:25] Speaker A: I did see that.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: That's so.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: I know. We don't live in a true reality.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: That's. That's some intense. That's some intense.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: That's happy.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: That's some centennial. Man.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: Accept this. That's the end of Short Circuit two. David, he's the first robotic citizen. Remember that. Johnny Five is alive.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: I've never. I've never seen Short Circuit two. I'm pretty sure.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: What? Have you seen one?
[00:03:48] Speaker B: I. I think I've seen one. What?
[00:03:50] Speaker A: You would love Short Circuit two. Wait, you've never seen Short Circuit two.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: That's.
I didn't even know Short Circuit two existed. I knew Short Circuit one existed. I didn't know I had a sequel.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: What I prefer too.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: This is breaking news.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: It's the chief's cousin.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: But most importantly, it has a white guy playing a dude from India.
There's a lot of brown face. Classic.
[00:04:13] Speaker B: Classic.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: Fisher Stevens, baby.
He plays Benjavatti.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: I'm not going to do the accent or quote him.
Oh, you've really never. There's a little Johnny 5 in it. You would love it.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: Okay, I will. I will.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: You should watch Short Circuit two. The first one. Just watch Short Circuit.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Just straight to the Second one.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: Michael McKean. Michael McKean's in it. Okay, dude, I'm promising you I will do a special episode just because it is such a David movie. I swear to God, I'm shocked you haven't seen Short Circuit 2. Add it to the top of your list. It's probably like an hour and 20 minutes long. How long is it? Short circuit two. I almost want to stop the show to make you watch the trailer. You're going to love it.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: Seriously.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Move that. How long is it? How long is short circuit 2?
[00:05:01] Speaker B: Hour 51.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: Okay, that's maybe a little long tooth.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: You want to hang around for that?
[00:05:08] Speaker A: No, it's worth it. It's good. Dude, that is such a David. I swear to God. Like, okay, pre think about this, but I don't remember how we got on Short Circuit.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: We were talking about the AI robot.
[00:05:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It's like the end of Short Circuit 2. He becomes, spoiler alert, the first robotic American.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Well, now. Now that you spoiled it for me. I can't.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: You don't care about spoilers.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: I don't give a shit.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: You told me you listened to episodes of Blank Check or you haven't seen the movie.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah, because I like their banter.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: You said it's a good hang.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: It is a good hang.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: Is this a good hang? Hopefully this is a good hang.
But what is this?
[00:05:46] Speaker B: This is. This is regarding good hangs.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: God damn it. I just wanted to get to it, but I don't want you to say it.
This dancer myself.
This is regarding Spawn Respawn, where each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. Except when we do not. Yeah, this week we are.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Last week we didn't.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: Before that we didn't.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we've been. We've been. We've been busting the. Busting the two up issue conceit pretty frequently.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: There's nothing conceits in the contract, Dave. That's why it's so brilliant. That's why I should have been a lawyer. Because it's.
Except when we don't.
[00:06:27] Speaker B: Right there.
It's. It's your insurance policy being void under acts of God. And you could just like, what's an act of God? I don't want to pay for that. That's an act of God.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: But we are doing two issues response universe today.
We're doing scorched 47 from January 2026. We're in 2026 on a series, David.
We're getting through the backlog.
[00:06:54] Speaker B: That was. That was five months ago.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: Shut the up. It's still. It's February.
[00:06:59] Speaker B: No, that gives us four months.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it's February until Memorial Day. So we have three more weeks of February even though it was 85 degrees today.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: Is that. Is that what happened when the Puxutani Phil saw his shadow? Since February until Memorial always.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: And then we have Swan 370 for November 2025.
Last year,
[00:07:25] Speaker B: another unintentionally, another double Todd father episode. Johnny.
[00:07:29] Speaker A: But yeah, yo. Oh, David. We'll get to it. Let's get to it right now. Because this is our first issue up. But so I.
I moved. I had a weird gap. And like, I thought I got all the back issues. I don't have scores. 47. I tore my room apart looking for it. So I had to read digital.
What a delight to me. And when I bought it on Kindle, on Comixology, it said author John Levin.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: And I was like, oh, my God. Oh, sweet. It was just the one.
It was just the one.
I'm not kidding. It literally said it. And I was so excited.
And it's not John Laman event.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
I was about to say.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: Seriously, David, I literally like, look, it was like, oh, hell yeah.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: As far as. As far as double Todd Father goes.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: I looked the first page, read one paragraph and see went back to the credits
[00:08:26] Speaker B: like. John, what's. What's wrong? John?
Are you okay?
[00:08:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: You've been hanging around the Todd Father too much.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: And I have the digital copy, so we're starting with. I have both covers, which is nice. They gave it to you. The very last page is the B company.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: Nice. I've got the. I've got the. The.
[00:08:44] Speaker A: They don't have to do that, David.
[00:08:45] Speaker B: They don't. No, they don't. They could give you no covers.
They could just give you a title.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: I'm assuming I've seen the covers. I'm assuming you went for the A cover.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I went for the A cover. That's of course. It's Jessica Priest with a big gun. And to top it off, it's Bjorn Barons.
[00:09:05] Speaker A: Yeah, she's awesome.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
It's not only is it Jessica Priest with a big fucking gun, but it's like post shootout Jessica Priest and she's just like.
[00:09:12] Speaker A: She's like standing on the dude's head and she's like, I did it. Does anyone have a Michelow Ultra smoke
[00:09:21] Speaker B: if you got him. You think Jessica Priest spokes?
[00:09:24] Speaker A: Occasionally, Yeah, I imagine she would. Occasionally.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: I imagine
[00:09:31] Speaker A: that movie. God, I don't even remember the name. There's a Paul Giamatti movie who's like a wrestling coach from like 28 or 7 or 10 or so. It's called Win Win. And he is a high school wrestling coach. And one of the things I was related to is he frequently after work when it's like a bad day and he does it more towards the movie goes on eventually as a freak out. But he goes to a gas station, buys a pack of cigarettes, goes by the dumpster, smokes one and throws the rest away.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Paul Giamatti slowly doing crazier and crazier things. Johnny, I don't believe you. I don't believe that.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Remember when he was blue and was the first kid? No. Big Fat Liar.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Big Fat Liar. I haven't seen that one.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: I never have either. So.
Yeah, that was a rude tude movie. Your mom would not have liked Big Fat Liar.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. I'm surprised I got her to let me watch Suburban Commando.
Honestly, that's okay.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: It's got Arnold in it, right?
[00:10:25] Speaker B: No, it's the, it's a Hulk Hogan.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: That's fine. It's like a good family movie.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: That's the one where in order to, to keep from being frozen, he drinks antifreeze. And my parents literally stopped the movie and said, david, you can't drink antifreeze. And then continued with the movie.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: I rented that movie multiple times.
There's also a big Three Ninjas fan. And that kind of. I feel like that's adjacent.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: I don't think I was old enough to.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah, a couple years old. You.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: I don't think I, I, I didn't get hit by the ninja bug, so I didn't see three ninjas until probably college.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: Power Rangers. That's adjacent.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: I mean, but Power Rangers Power. Nothing is, Nothing is Power Rangers but Power Rangers, Johnny.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:11:12] Speaker B: But I.
Well, I mean, I guess I didn't, I did get hit by the ninja bug because I got Teenage Ninja Turtle power.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: Yes. That's the first start of it.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: But I just never went to. I just never went to Three Ninjas. I think I watched Surf Ninjas once.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: I was just down to any PG movie that was like live action because they don't make those anymore. Yeah, I guess they're just TV series now, probably.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah, probably.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: Like they were basically Disney Channel shows before Disney Channel shows. Yeah, they're like hot young people in like high concept situations. But I love. Yeah, like surf ninjas. Three ninjas. And they're like PG 90s movies.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: Thumbs up from John Fisher. Because I basically saw all of them in theaters.
It was pg 13. I didn't see all of them, you know, because the parents were like, you
[00:11:57] Speaker B: know, there was a, there was a while there.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: They took me to Jurassic. I was seven years old. They took me to goddamn movie theater, sat me down and let me watch Jurassic Park.
And it changed my life. And I loved it.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: But.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: Yeah, that's insane. There's like, it'll be fine.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: What's it gonna do to him? Jurassic park was a fucking feat.
[00:12:15] Speaker A: And I remember, like, some of my early memories. I remember, like, sitting there with the lawyer getting, like, looking at my aunt. She was, like, freaking out. The whole theater was going crazy.
It was like opening weekend, 1993.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah, the lawyer getting eaten was one of the hey, David, you need to look away now moments for.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: But you didn't see it till vhs, right?
[00:12:33] Speaker B: Yeah, till vhs.
Because I didn't see it until, like the week before.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: Don't like it.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: I didn't see it until the week before the Lost World opened because my parents wanted to go see Lost World opening weekend.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: And they took you to that.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: They. They took us to go see.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: You're nine in 97.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it would have been nine.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: So you probably love the Lost World.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: I love.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I do too. It's a good movie, man.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Cuz. Cuz the problem was that like, cuz I had just watched the first Jurassic park and I was like, this. This is going to be the star of the next movie. This, this.
This old Ian Malcolm guy. That. And then just. It's wonderful. He's so good.
Because I wasn't. I was an Alan Grant man. God damn it.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: I know. Me too. I was very disappointed. He wasn't.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: He was. He was like. As. As soon as I watched that tape for the first time, I was like a. That toy. I want. I want that toy of him.
[00:13:26] Speaker A: So. I know. So my. It was so funny. I have a memory about that toy because, like, my brother, he's a G. I'll remember this because weirdly, AI has like chapters for our show now. So I can probably say this chapter is called the Alan Grant figure and it'll be on there.
But I remember going to Target after Jurassic Park. We'd seen the toys and we saw the movie and we're going to go. We each got to get a Jurassic park figure. And that's the strength of storytelling. We didn't go for a dinosaur. We both went for a human figure. And I was a kid. We were babies. We didn't understand. I was seven.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: So my brother was nine and he didn't remember his name. I was like, I want the guy. He'd seen the toy.
So he was like, I called the toy of the guy that has a net that launches from his backpack. I was like, cool.
I want the guy in the hat.
And he was like, cool. We made that deal.
And Alan Grant was indeed the figure with.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: With the hat, the net. Oh, he was.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: But he was awesome with the net. And my brother, who was nine years old, was a G. And let me get that figure.
But he. Guess who he got?
He got Robert Muldoon baby. Oh, he came with like a rocket launcher. Like a baby raptor.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: Oh, shit.
Oh.
Shout out to like, a week later
[00:14:40] Speaker A: we got a raptor. And a week after that we got the Lapisaurus. Like, we got the whole collection.
[00:14:44] Speaker B: Shout out to Bill Fisher.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: But I always remember that he's a G, because I remember we called it. And he was like, he's yours. I don't know what he said. But he was like. We had like a little scuffle about it. He was like, it's fine.
[00:14:56] Speaker B: Nice.
That's. That's actually.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: Clever girl.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: That's. That's impressive because especially 7 and 8, 7 and 9 year old boys in
[00:15:05] Speaker A: the back of a target.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: It could have gone sideways very quickly.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: And then he's a little older than me. The next figure he got was Ellie sat there.
And I got the. And I got the Tim figure next.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: We had them all.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: And this is a transition that will get us back to Scorch because I swear to God, just to cap all this Jurassic park toy and Jurassic park talk off. All right, so one Christmas we wanted the. I think we kind of wanted this Jurassic park playset. But my mom took us to Toys R Us and they had a in box every important Marvel figure from toy biz, like Wolverine, iceman, like fucking 10 of them in a box, like on a display case.
And I was like, we want that. And so that's what we chose over the Jurassic park playset.
Got it out Christmas morning at my grandma's because it was our grandma's present to us. She probably was like, spend 40 bucks at Toys R Us in 1993 or whatever.
It was Christmas of 93. Yeah.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: So she doesn't know what kids are into. Just. She wants you to be happy.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Picked that and we unwrapped it. We opened it and it had this piece of paper inside. And then we quickly discovered the warning figures do not come off base.
They were super glued to the base.
If my mom tried to figure a way to get them out, she was like, we'll break them. And she was like, we're taking this back. So we took it back and we got the Jurassic park playset.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: What a wild flex to sell a. Sell a series of actions ahead of
[00:16:47] Speaker A: its time, you know, now people probably love that.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: But it was like, it was such a great deal. You get all these figures for like 40 bucks and they'd each be like, you know, probably then like 4 bucks or 5 bucks each.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: Now this is probably 12 or 15 each.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:04] Speaker A: But anyway, X Men.
We love John Layman's run Unscorched. It felt like good X Men, but he's gone.
And who do we have?
But it's almost like we don't want to talk about two issues of Todd McFarlane.
[00:17:24] Speaker B: That beat cover is pretty good, though. It's.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: It's a medieval swan, baby.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a. It's a Roebuck Johnny, it's a Thaddeus Roebeck.
It's medieval. Standing in a castle, which is where you want your medieval spawns to be.
And Johnny, this is evocative of the cel shading era of the early 2000s, which I personally am a big fan of. A cel shaded action game.
[00:17:51] Speaker A: What games did you like?
[00:17:53] Speaker B: There was one I was really bad at. That was like a samurai version of Diablo that I got from one of my friends.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: Yeah. On PC. I don't remember what it was called, but it was awesome.
[00:18:06] Speaker A: That's cool.
You like Wind Waker?
[00:18:09] Speaker B: Wind Waker was. I've watched a lot of Wind Waker. I've never. Right.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: I've never played it either, so. But that's a good Cell Shady game. Jet Force. No, what was it called?
It was the spray painting one. It's a good art style.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: It's good looking. It's a good looking medieval. He's got some really nice. Really nice skulls. Very clean, big right foot.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: So X Men, Scorch.
I thought John Lehman wrote it. But as we turn into the inside, we see we have script plot by Todd McFarlane.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: Yes, we do.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: Art by Stephen Segovia. Pages one through ten, Raymond Gaye, pages 11 through 20. Just split the baby in half. Is. What's his name said?
[00:18:52] Speaker B: King Solomon, I believe.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah, King Solomon.
What kind of wisdom is that?
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Well, the idea was that the real mother would not do it. Would not do it. And so that's. That was kind of the. Because one of them was like, yeah, sure, I'll take half a baby. And the real mother was like, no, the parable.
[00:19:09] Speaker A: What's the end of it?
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Well, the real mother says, don't do that. You could have the baby. Don't kill the baby. And then King Solomon's like, oh, give the baby.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: Which the other woman was like, I'll take half a baby.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: Yeah, the other person, the other lady was like, I'll take half a baby.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: Did she work in your office?
[00:19:27] Speaker B: I work in old timey Bible times.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: The office, as we discovered. Like, if you wanted deep into this, like three or four or five episodes ago, and David admitted one of his coworkers wanted to be a cannibal.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: So it's always. See that? And they think, what a tasty treat.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: Johnny, Johnny, here's. Here's something that you're gonna hate me for even more.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: So, you know, you don't have to do this. That's fine.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: No, I've already.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: I was raving you about the library movies. Let's go.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: I've already. I've already. I've already admitted it. Work. Everybody's already giving me shit about it. Okay.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: You ate a human testicle raw, like an oyster.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: Wouldn't you like to know? No.
So we all have those intrusive thoughts of just things that you randomly think of, and then you can never stop thinking about them. Sure. Mine is.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: We all share them on a podcast. No, go ahead.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Mine is. So we receive a lot of blood samples.
We don't need to go into it, but we get a lot of serum tubes that tend to be on ice, and then we will spin them cold. And there are certain very hot days in the summer where it's really muggy. And then this. This tube of blood, it comes out of the centrifuge all nice and cold, and it's got, like, the condensation on the outside of it, and it kind of looks like a beer.
And if you're, like, at a certain time of day, you're like, I bet that would be really refreshing to drink.
But you can't because it's a human sample and also probably has something terrible in it.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: No. It'll give you superpowers.
Get the blood of your enemy.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: I'm gonna drink the blood of some sick child, and it's gonna give me what sick child powers? Is that what's gonna happen?
[00:21:06] Speaker A: I mean, evidently, all our presidents and rich people have been doing it for years. Baby.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: Hey.
So. So I wouldn't be surprised if at one point I show up at work and somebody has made, like, test tube drinks and been like, you've always wanted to drink.
I don't have to be like, I'm not gonna drink that because I'm afraid it's actual blood.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: Anyway, after that, we're talking colors, and I guess we're talking color red and refreshing. But I agree with you. I bet it would look refreshing.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:38] Speaker A: I work in a hot environment sometimes, and, like, it is refreshing to see something that's cold.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: There's just a something about a vessel with liquid in it that has that condensation on the outside of it.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: You know, I don't know if commercials do it.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: I don't know if it's growing up in an environment where I saw a lot of beer commercials or just usually.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: I learned about beer commercials and I googled it. It's true.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: Is that nobody ever actually drinks. Yeah, no one drinks because they're not allowed to depict it. They are a lot there.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: But networks prefer there's no logins. They're allowed to. They're allowed to show them drinking.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: I thought there was a Networks prefer
[00:22:17] Speaker A: it because it gives them the benefit. That's like. We never saw you to drink. We saw you cheers it. Hold it.
[00:22:23] Speaker B: Yeah, just hold that cold beer
[00:22:28] Speaker A: anyway.
[00:22:29] Speaker B: And yet they used to have Flintstone selling cigarettes.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: The color red by Danae Ribeiro. Lettering by Emerald Design. Yes, indeed. We already covered the covers. Creative director is Todd McFarlane.
Editor in Chief is Thomas Hille.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: He's French now, huh?
[00:22:48] Speaker A: I'm French now.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: Blue baguette
[00:22:57] Speaker A: al pastor. Oh, that's wrong.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: Marie, the baguettes.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Hurry up. So we open on what I thought was a John Layman script.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: No, but this. This one. One final thing you got to hit on this page. Johnny.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: What a previous. I forgot.
Oh, my God. It's his phone. I hate looking. I wish I had the physical version. This is the last one, I think. I think it's the last one that's read digitally.
Previously. In the Scorch, an ALIE Armada takes a position above the earth.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: That did happen.
[00:23:36] Speaker A: Todd McFarlane willed it. So.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Okay, so, Johnny, right off the bat, I have to lay some ground, some ground leveling here. I've talked about it before. I've talked about Exo Manowar and the vine, which are aliens that come to Earth and stuff.
This shit is literally Robert Vendetti's run on Exomanowar from what, like 2012, 2013.
Even to the point where the vine cannot exist on Earth, so they seed some children on the Earth so they can survive in the atmosphere, because then they've developed some enzyme that allows them to breathe.
It's literally fucking Robert Vendetti's Exomanowar. Go read it. It's good shit. Yeah. It's nothing new under the sun, Johnny. There's nothing new in the cosmos either, apparently.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I heard a good accusation in that kind of vein. What'd you say? Like 2013?
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, 2012. 2013. Ish.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: So, I mean, when we picked up.
Or the week it was the day before I was in Challengers, like confirming everything before we did our episode. And Dahl said it kind of reminds me. It kind of feels like someone who's suffering. Batman in 2013?
[00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: So maybe he was really into comics in 2013.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: I don't know what he's doing. He also watched some kind of African nature document.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's in both of them. It's in both of them.
What the hell? What the heck, dude?
[00:25:09] Speaker A: I don't know. Let's get into it. So there's this guy.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: And he's, like, watching the Earth. Like a kind of, like, shield thing.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Looks like it's like a raised shield.
[00:25:18] Speaker A: And he looks like. I don't know, he looks like a B level. Like Gears of War, Halo, Enemy.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: And no offense to the artist, or like, he looks.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: He looks like an alien sentinel who.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: So my question for reading these issues to Tom McFarlane would be why, if you keep taking. If you keep taking over these issues where you just create these characters, you're like, oh, I'm here and I'm really important, and they disappear, die, or whatever, and you don't allow anyone else to do anything with them because you, like, kill them or, like, whatever. It's like, I understand you want to create these new characters. That's cool.
But just, like, come in there, create some characters and get out.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
Like. Like, leave the characters with some future ahead of them so somebody can do something with them.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Just like, John Layman is such a good thing going on. So it's just like, Tom McFarlane's writing
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Square Tom, and Farland's gonna somehow make another he man and another battle cat, and then he's gonna throw that cat off the building.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: This feels. It feels. David. Yeah. I think you hit it on the head. It feels a little dated.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Both these issues, unfortunately.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: It sucks that I'm gonna give, like, a scorch below a three.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: Like, it's spoilers.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Maybe not. Well, let's go. Let's see. Sometimes you change my mind.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: It's.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: It's. Do you have the. Do you want to change my mind?
[00:26:40] Speaker B: I don't know if I can. I don't. I don't know if I have the moral fortitude to do that, Johnny.
[00:26:47] Speaker A: Anyway, this, like, Gears of Wars characters, like.
Oh, yeah, they already know I'm here.
Yeah, some of them know.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like. He's like, we don't wanna. We don't wanna fight the humans. We'll fight them if. If we have to. But, you know, I don't wanna. I don't want to get into that. We just. We planted some seeds. We just want to grab these seeds and we just want to get out of here. That's all we want to do.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: His name is Belgium Belgic.
I don't know. Bad name.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: And this guy's like, this little lack. He's like, if they're unthreatening, we're not gonna attack them. Why are you running the battalions? And he's like, because that's how any civilization become extincts.
Like, it's just like sometimes Tommy Farland reminds me of like what they translated anime as in like the 80s and early 90s.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: You know what I mean?
[00:27:39] Speaker A: This guy's like, yeah, this would definitely syphilis. And it's like, what.
He just had these, like. He's like, oh, yeah, he. I feel like he's making these grand statements about humanity.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's Johnny, as we've talked before on the hit annual podcast regarding Star wars first draft test. It's very first draft. But yeah, then this guy says that he's.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: That's the thing. Oh, you brought it up. But like episode two was like basically written in a notebook till they hired that other guy that came in, like, helped write it because like, he like refused to write it. He's being a dick about it. Was like developing all the concept art and like locations, like, wouldn't finish the screenplay. It's like a week before it started filming.
It was like basically written on like a notebook.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Damn. It shows
[00:28:30] Speaker A: the first traffic I made into a movie.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: This guy's talking about how like these humans that live on this planet, but they're. But they've got some influences from demons and angels.
He's like, they might be. They might be wild cards. They might not lay down quietly. He's just like, okay, let's hope. Let's. Let's get our. Let's get our stuff and go. And then we just kind of leave also.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: It's like he says, Strange and his others have allowed it to dominate their domain. I'm like, dude, by the power level and like, what? Like, obviously they would dominate also. They just found out like they exist like a couple weeks ago.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: A couple weeks ago? Yeah. Even though they've been a couple of weeks ago like three or four times.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: So they planted seas on this planet and he sends out his. Like, he's playing Starcraft. He's like, go guys, to the ship. And he clicks on the ship.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: Yeah, they're the, the seeds are something that they need in order to be able to like, survive. They've got like some sort of disease or like vitamin deficiency that they need
[00:29:35] Speaker A: to suck from humans is.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Wondering what twisted fate gave some of these beings the enzymes his people need to live.
Superior as his race may be, a cruel fate inflicted them with the lack of longevity.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:55] Speaker B: This mission means to correct them.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: It's like the lysine Sufficient lysine deficiency
[00:30:00] Speaker B: in Jurassic park or the, the ketracel white Addiction that the. The Vortas give to the Jim Hadar in Deep Space Nine.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: So that way you're gonna say Deep Space Nine.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: That way they. They remain loyal because that's the only way they can get their ketracel white that they're addicted to. And the addiction is such that if they go without it, they'll die.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: That's license deficiency.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: Lysine deficiency. Yes.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: They say it once in the movie. Do you know what I'm talking about?
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: It's in the book.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: It's. It's funny because I had a license deficiency once and it gave me a whole bunch of canker sores, so.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: So you could have turned into a dinosaur.
[00:30:39] Speaker B: I could have been a dinosaur. Or either that or those dinosaurs have helicos.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: The movie, there's a line, like a little monologue from Ray Arnold.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: Samuel Jackson's character, he's like, license, efficiency. We give it to them, they die. And, like, goes on this little monologue. But in the book, it's like a big deal.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: And that's. And they're allowed to survive in the Lost World because they eat.
The dinosaurs eat the license. The plant eaters eat, like, the soybeans or lysine or whatever. And the carnivores eat the herbivores. So what's your favorite part of the Lost World?
The movie. That trailer scene is amazing.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: The trailer, like, where.
Where they're, like, hanging in the tree and it, like, falls around a cliff. They're.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they're hanging on a cliff. Yeah. And the T. Rexes push them off a cliff.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's pretty dope.
That's. That's a good one. That's a really good one.
Either that. Either that or like, Ian Malcolm's daughter, like, with the glass roof, like.
Or was that in the.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: That was you, Malcolm.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: That was. Okay. Yeah.
[00:31:44] Speaker A: He hits the door.
[00:31:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: And he, like, he needles his nose through.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:49] Speaker A: Is that what you're talking about?
[00:31:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
It's like, ah, there's no way you're gonna get through that.
[00:31:56] Speaker A: And John Williams working his ass off.
[00:31:58] Speaker B: He always does. He always does. That man has no ass because he worked it off already.
Multiple times.
[00:32:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So John Williams is scoring this comic. Hopefully.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: Yes. And then.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: And then Tom McFarlane goes, oh, I forgot I ended on a cliffhanger. Not really.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: Like, we cut back elsewhere on Earth, we get that super cool Jessica Priest final shot from the previous issue.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: She's ripped off the security guard at the guy, government guy she was trying to appeal to, who didn't believe her, listen to her.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And she's like, look at this, look at this, look at this. And the security.
The government guy's just like, ah, lady, that's a dead. That's a dead guy's head.
[00:32:39] Speaker A: That's also where we transition artists, I believe, right?
[00:32:42] Speaker B: No, that's.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Not yet.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Not yet. We still got a couple pages.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: That's so funny. He gives him like. You think that'd be the clean break?
[00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah, whatever.
Then like, the first thing. The first thing that this Trent government guy thinks of is like, lady, they got you on video. And she's like, no, no, no, don't worry about it. I took care of that. Five minutes.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Okay, so what's going on? Yeah, he's worried about being on video. I'm gonna videotape you, Todd.
[00:33:08] Speaker B: Yeah. He says, what do you want? And Jessica Priest says, what I want, Trent, is for your fucking government to wake up. So she's.
She's like a 12 monkeys style terrorist now.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
And she said they're going to infiltrate all the world powers. Russia, China, Europe.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: They're going through all of them.
[00:33:32] Speaker A: And they look like us.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
Trent says, they won't believe me. And she says, here, take this. And she just like, throws the head at.
Run DNA tests. They'll believe you.
Then tell them we're the good guys. You want our protection.
Oh, ridiculous. Ridiculous. And then we cut to New York City. 12:56pm yes.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: It's never an even number. It's never a clean number. So we're five. It's never a five or a zero.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: Zero. Yeah.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: And you know why, David? Because that makes it real.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
And this guy named Daniel notices Kilgore.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: Daniel Kilgore.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Do you know who that was? That's. That's what I assumed. But you know.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: And then he walks into his place and Professor X is standing there.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And he says, I want you to join my school.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: I'm assuming it's Daniel Kilwar.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: That's. That's what I think. But, you know.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it is.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: Yeah. It's gotta be. Yeah, he's a little redhead guy.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Gotta be.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: And it's. It's mammoth.
[00:34:40] Speaker A: Why'd you just say this guy named Daniel?
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Well, because. Because. Well, it's just. Because it says like. It just says place, time. And then we see this guy. Then it's as he enters the door or as he nears his apartment. And there's no. There's no signif. There's no signified for the signifier of him to. There's no noun for the pronoun of he to attach to, so we don't know.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: He says it.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but he doesn't say that until after he's already pronouned.
[00:35:08] Speaker A: What?
[00:35:09] Speaker B: You've got to say the proper noun first and then you can pronoun later. You don't start with a pronoun without a noun.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: But once you hear the name Daniel and you realize, oh, look at this Irish looking motherfucker. This Catholic bitch.
Why? Why were you pretending in the world of our podcast that we didn't know who you were?
That's.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: I mean, I. I didn't think about it too hard, really. It was. It was literally just in this moment where I was trying to talk about it that I was like, oh, yeah, that's Kilgore, isn't it?
[00:35:36] Speaker A: It's Gilgore.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: I just thought it was some random dude the first time.
[00:35:39] Speaker A: Oh, my God. That's what I was trying to get out of here. I knew you thought that. I did not. You know why?
[00:35:45] Speaker B: Because you're a better reader.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: Grand Daniel Kilwar.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: You're horny for Daniel.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: You know, sexy.
He's got that stubble.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: It's a. It's. It's exotic. Because you were a Lutheran.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: No, David, please.
[00:36:01] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: I'm your mortal enemy.
Catholic light, baby. Yeah.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Oh, oh. I forget what it's called. Oh, oh. Episcopal.
Episcopalian Catholic, without all the guilt.
Come to the dark side, I guess.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: So this. So this guy reveals he's Maimon, classic small character. Toddy loves to use him.
[00:36:21] Speaker B: He's been in all the ep, all the issues across, all the titles lately.
[00:36:25] Speaker A: He has.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: He's the current Big Bad. I guess there's a lot of them floating out there and it's like.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: That's what I'm hoping. It's like, maybe we'll just get his. Get it out.
[00:36:34] Speaker B: Yeah, and leave.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: And like, because they have all these new reboots for, like, new authors, like time jump. So, like, just get it out, Todd, and get the. Out of there. Then we cut to one of the Funniest, most Tom McFarlane weird meta things is their first exchange.
The first page is fine. He's like, it's. It's Ed and Eddie.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Yeah,
[00:36:55] Speaker A: future Eddie and current Eddie. And he's like, yo, we need to talk.
And he's like, you know, dude, the Raymond.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: The Raymond gay. Future Eddie is awesome. Like, he's. He's a little. He's a little Bit of the dude.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: His art is great.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah, the dude wouldn't wear a suit.
[00:37:10] Speaker A: I love both the Eddies. Yeah, but it's just so funny. The first thing, he's just like, look, we can't both be called Eddie. That's too confusing. Toys and like, talking about it online. Is that why he does this?
[00:37:22] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: So stupid.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: He's like, how about. How about this? We're named Eddie Frank. You be Eddie, I'll be Frank.
Sound like first names.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. Dude, I could. I. It is such. I could just imagine. It felt like Todd. It, like, leaks through, which is like knowing Todd McFarlane. Want to know about him. And seeing him online, I see his videos. Like, it was just like, there's this Todd McFarlane. Like, he's like, yeah, I did it. I won't be confused on Reddit no more like, it's just such an unnecessary weird thing. Right? It's like. I was like, what the hell is he doing?
[00:37:56] Speaker B: Like, because it hasn't been a problem this entire time.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: Future Eddie and other Eddie. But he's like, no, I'll be Eddie. So now he's going, frank, I guess.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: I guess he's Frank.
Okay, Maybe they'll get maybe.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: I'm sure there's another Frankenspawn we need to go on. Spawn a PD and look it up.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: Probably I'm thinking about.
I don't know.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: I'm gonna confuse him with Lieutenant Frank Drevin.
[00:38:23] Speaker B: That's your prerogative of the Naked Gun.
[00:38:27] Speaker A: I don't know if you realize who Lt. Frank Draven.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: I knew I had heard the name, but I didn't recognize where I had heard it.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: You probably were not allowed to watch this.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: Oh, no. My dad loved the Naked Gun movie movies.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: So I saw 33 and a third in theaters.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: I think 33 and a third was the first one I watched. My dad was so excited when he got to, like, show me Airplane or oh, oh. The night he got to show me Monty Python and the Holy Grail was probably the greatest night of his life.
He was. He was so excited.
I had no idea what was going on.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: Never loved that movie.
[00:39:07] Speaker B: It's interesting.
It's.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: I would like to revisit it. I'm a smarter man now. I just didn't hit it at the right age. And like, okay, here's here. Here it is, David.
There's like that, like.
And it's much broader than. It's more nebulous than this. I can't put it into Words specifically. But there's like, you either go the kind of twee way or you go the kind of punk way.
And I always lean more towards the punk way. And, like, I wasn't twee. And, like, Money Pythons were twee.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: I had absolutely no idea what it was. I had never heard of it.
And it is a movie that having exposure to it through other people before you see it completely makes it not worth watching. Like, if you hang out with people who then say all of the funny shit, you see it. And it's not as funny to watch it after somebody else has said it out of context.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: But if you just saw it smack DAB in, like, 1975 or whatever.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Like, if you. If you go to it cold, you know nothing about it. I think you have a better time with it, because I definitely had.
I had more fun talking about it after I watched it than I had watching it.
And if you've already experienced the fun of people talking about it, then when you're watching it, it's like, we. We already did this. We already had all this fun.
Now all that to say, Spamalot is a fucking banger of a show.
You should go see it. The next time it comes through the Pac, it's going to see Spamalot of the Pacs.
[00:40:39] Speaker A: It's coming out. It's coming out. I think it's coming this year.
[00:40:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know they're the. The touring company's coming through Chicago. But I was late getting out of the lab one day at Oklahoma State, and I was driving down to Tulsa to meet my dad so we could go spam a lot. And that was the one time I got a speeding ticket.
I had no idea how fast I was going because I was driving my. My grandma car. You're driving from where, Stillwater to Tulsa?
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:41:06] Speaker B: And the speedometer, like, topped out at 85.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: David.
[00:41:12] Speaker B: The first question the cop asked or the highway patrolman asked me wasn't, do I know how fast I was going? He was like, how old is this guy car?
It was like. And then when he finally got around, did you know how fast you were going? I was like, it tops out at 85. I assumed I was doing 85. And he was like, no, I probably should have gotten a reckless driving ticket, but it was my first ticket. So he let me go with just having to pay whatever. It was like, 100, 120 bucks or whatever.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:41:44] Speaker B: It was. It was still stupid expensive, but it could have been worse.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: It's like 200 bucks now.
[00:41:50] Speaker B: Yeah, man.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: Anyway, so they figure out their names so they can brand the action figures.
Yeah.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: And then. And then Frank. Frank is like, well, guess something that
[00:42:03] Speaker A: no one worried about. Did you see, like, one comment of some guy being like, it's confusing. They're both called Eddie. And he was like, God damn it, I gotta change that. It's just. I think it's. As someone who consumes a lot of stories and has written stories, it's just a weird thing to, like, spend space on.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
[00:42:20] Speaker A: I don't think it's confusing at all.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: I mean, it's more confusing now. We're gonna have to call him Frank. That's another name we have to remember.
He's the Frank Reynolds.
[00:42:29] Speaker A: Frank is always. Frank is always Danny DeVito to me now, that name. He, like, owns that name. Like, someone said name of Frank. I'm like, Frank Reynolds. Always something.
No question.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: The pug from Men in Black.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: One of the funniest things I. The first time I saw it, I, like, almost died. And I haven't seen every episode. And I like that show, and I always like watching it. One of the funniest things I ever saw is like, they're like, lost the woods because they got kicked out of limo and he found a dead crow. And then later in the limo, they pick him up again. He's freaking out. He's like, what's wrong? He's like, I ate the crow because they were so hungry because they're wandering for like an hour out in the wilderness, and he ate a dead crowd. The reveal of it, like, two hours later because he had food poisoning.
He ate that shit raw. That's so funny.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: That's ridiculous. I can't. I can't do It's Always Sunny because it's predicated on the. The idea that everybody in the show is terrible. And I can't. I can't. I can't do a show where everybody is just irredeemably bad.
I mean, I understand that's. That's the joke, but that's. I.
You can have those jokes. You have all of my jokes. Please have seconds.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: And thus Zither has spoken.
But so Frank, I guess, does this weird Flex Movers I'm turning to Redeemer yell you.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a. It's an awesome transition, but it's, like, unnecessary.
[00:44:02] Speaker A: Well, they're talking about the thing that's on everyone's mind. Like, I think if you die, I won't die, but I'm not sure.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: And I'm gonna freak out.
[00:44:09] Speaker B: Yeah. But, like, the. The future has already changed from what he knew it was. So I like how Eddie's like, so what? Like, you know exactly what I'm thinking. And Frank's like, future doesn't work like that, but.
Oh. He's like, I got. I gotta go do some work. And Eddie's like, you want me to come help? And he's like, nope, you get us. You find us some data that helps us find what we're looking for.
And Frank flies away to Todd McFarlane
[00:44:38] Speaker A: falling asleep in front of planet Earth for two weeks, so. Because in both these issues, they end up in Africa with animals. With, like, animals.
Classic. It's so weird. I thought we were reading back to back. I thought I was going crazy.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: So the. The joke I stumbled across while I was reading this one was like, oh, he discovered Gorilla City.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: But I don't know, maybe he watched Congo.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe he watched Congo. Or he'd been reading a whole bunch of the Flash. You know, you never know.
Gorilla Grodd and all that.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: We cut to a gentleman.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: Mm. And his. His family in Southeast Africa. Mm.
Setting up camp for the night.
[00:45:21] Speaker A: He's like a wandering merchant in a video game.
[00:45:24] Speaker B: Yeah,
[00:45:27] Speaker A: he has, like. His donkey's full of stuff.
He's like a mare. Is that a horse? It's a horse.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: I would assume it's a horse. Yeah.
Well, it's a nightmare is what it's gonna turn into, Johnny.
And he's like. He's like, okay, you. You keep. You keep setting up camp. I'm gonna go find us some food. I'll be back. I'll be back. No more than two hours.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: He's going. He's gonna have to jerk off.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Like. Like he gets out there and, like, immediately.
Immediately gets jumped by these three gorillas.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: And then what's funny is they kind of look like guys in gorilla suits, which is good.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: I thought there was going to be a cygor connection here, but no, he. He kills one of the gorillas, and then the other two. The other two decide that they have to figure out who's going to be the boss first.
And then the one.
[00:46:16] Speaker A: The gorillas figure out who's alpha. Alpha's important.
[00:46:20] Speaker B: And then the one who just. When they just decide which one is the alpha, he just, like, turns around and bites this guy's arm off.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Classic chimp maneuver.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: Yeah. After they rip his arm off. Like, there's this heavenly light that freezes them, and it's just redeemer floating down.
And they run Away. And this guy take the arm.
[00:46:39] Speaker A: They take the arm. They take the arm with them.
[00:46:41] Speaker B: Yes. I mean they. They gotta have a snack for the ride home. Johnny.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: Do you think they're gonna eat it? David?
[00:46:46] Speaker B: Of course they are. They just expended a lot of energy. Johnny.
[00:46:49] Speaker A: Eat that human arm.
[00:46:50] Speaker B: They're going to eat that human arm just like that crow.
And so this guy's just like. He's just like, is that. Is that an angel?
And Rainer is just like, I need your help. And then. To be continued.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: There it is.
[00:47:07] Speaker B: What the hell?
What the hell, Johnny?
We got the scorched skull to end the issue.
I guess that's just the regular spawn skull. You need more Sponge Universe, Johnny.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: But we called the Scorcher. We've always. That's always different skull.
[00:47:24] Speaker B: Okay.
Huh. Still a good skull. I like it.
Do you need more Sponge Universe?
[00:47:30] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: Okay. The dumbest these ongoing titles, Johnny.
[00:47:33] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: We got the core four there, as we called them. We get, ooh, the first of some Avatar, Fire and ash action figures.
[00:47:39] Speaker A: So I don't get that. I. So they don't have the toy as the digital. What do you got? Put it on the camera.
Oh, that was a good movie. I got Avatar, Fire and Ash. It was good.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: Trying to get it so that way you could see it. They got what the. The new lady.
[00:47:56] Speaker A: That. Yes, hot lady, everybody. Played by Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter, Una Chaplin.
You may remember her from Game of Thrones.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: Would you play in Game of Thrones?
[00:48:09] Speaker A: She was the one that got killed at the Red Wedding. She was Rob Stark's fiance.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter.
[00:48:16] Speaker B: Then we get the Image classic set. And then we get Doom, the Dark Ages action figure. The toy of the year.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: Oh, I want to play that game. I love the first two Dooms in that series.
[00:48:26] Speaker B: Toy of the year finalist.
It's pretty good looking figure.
[00:48:32] Speaker A: That's awesome.
McFarland. I know. They've lost the. They lost the DC license.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: I think they did.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah. They're taking over. Mattel's taking over in 2026.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: Dang.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: It's a fact, baby.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: Oh, man. Because I just saw. I just saw an action figure.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: They're pumping them out.
Wonder Woman like the.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: That I thought was hilarious. They're doing a Lobo action figure and he comes with a. He comes with a little dolphin.
It's funny. Oh, dead. See it.
Let me slow my roll a little bit. So do you know who the character Lobo is? Johnny?
[00:49:07] Speaker A: Yes, I know fucking Lobo is.
[00:49:09] Speaker B: Okay, so. So the thing about Lobo is. At one point, they decided that Lobo just fucking loves dolphins.
And so in the mid-90s, like, anytime they wanted to drag.
I think it was probably a Peter David thing, but there was an Aquaman issue where there are these poachers poaching.
Poaching dolphins. And then Lobo just like, comes out of nowhere and just, like, beats the shit out of these gu. Like, you leave these dolphins alone and then flies away. So Lobo loves dolphins and he comes with a dolphin.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: No, I don't. Lobo's in a movie.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, it's always.
He's gonna be in this new movie. He's gonna be played by that one guy who does that thing.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Jason Momoa.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: Yeah, Jason Samoa.
What? Jason Samora.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: Oh, are you a white man making fun of a non traditional name on the Internet in 2026? You sure you want to go on record with that?
[00:50:00] Speaker B: No, I just wanted to. I just wanted to make the association between Jason mom and Samoa Girl Scout cookies, implying that Jason Momoa is tasty.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: He's tasty. I like Jason Momoa.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's fun as hell.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: He should have played the Rock in the live action Moana.
They should have cast. He's better. He's more of a live action cartoon. He's like a more cartoony Rock. Yeah, I think he would have been better at. What is the Rock's character's name? Moana.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: That would be Maui.
He's just an ordinary demigod.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm going on record right now. Jason Momoa would be a better live action Maui than the Rock will be.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm.
[00:50:41] Speaker A: I mean, also, that Supergirl movie looks badass.
[00:50:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it looks great. Controversial opinion here, Johnny.
Piggybacking on your first one. I just don't think they should have made a live action Moana. But that. Yeah, they didn't ask me.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: They don't ask anyone.
[00:50:57] Speaker B: They don't ask anyone.
[00:51:00] Speaker A: They're running out of. They can't do Pocahontas.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: They might try once.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: They can't do. Okay. Emperor Zoo Groove. They're probably working on it.
[00:51:09] Speaker B: Probably.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: I'm not kidding you.
It would be like Pete Davidson is the llama
[00:51:15] Speaker B: hunchback of Notre Dame. I don't know. I don't know if they can.
[00:51:19] Speaker A: They can't do anyone's to touch on any of the, like, troublesome.
Also, that one was like, them trying to be like Phantom. They were, like, trying to rip off Phantom of it. Evidently, that's why it gets so dark. And like Frollo and like, it's just like. It's kind of like they were trying to get that Phantom love.
[00:51:34] Speaker B: But the.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: They were going for Oscars for those.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: The Hunter, the Hunchback was already pretty.
Like, it was.
[00:51:41] Speaker A: I mean, the tone and how they told it and the way the style of the music they. They tried to. Like after Al Menkin did the little stuff in the Renaissance, they were trying to ape popular musicals.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. So. So the musical. Not the story of the Phantom of the app.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: No, I'm not saying.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Okay, okay.
[00:51:58] Speaker A: I'm saying The Disney.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:52:00] Speaker A: 1996 or 5. Whatever. Hunchback.
[00:52:03] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:52:03] Speaker A: Was like, oh, Phantom was really popular. We got the rights to Hunchback and we're gonna make Hunchback like, let's make it like Phantom.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: Okay, I gotcha. I gotcha.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: They sure had a lot of Burger King toys.
[00:52:13] Speaker B: Yeah, they sure did.
[00:52:14] Speaker A: Always associate that movie with Burger King.
[00:52:18] Speaker B: Speaking of Burger King and tying it back to an earlier conversation, did you ever get one of the dinosaur watches from Burger King?
[00:52:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I had two Lost World watches.
[00:52:26] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:52:27] Speaker A: I have the Neon Raptor one, and I had the one that was like a cage opened up.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: Did you have one?
[00:52:32] Speaker B: I had the. The one that had the stegosaurus on it. I thought it was the boring one at the time, but I would love to have that stegosaurus watch now.
[00:52:41] Speaker A: Oh, you beat. I mean, probably goes like $60.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Probably.
Yeah.
[00:52:48] Speaker A: Well, that's scorched.
[00:52:50] Speaker B: The scorched.
[00:52:53] Speaker A: Take the break.
And we're back for spawn.
370.
[00:53:08] Speaker B: That's a whole year plus.370 a whole year plus What? A whole year plus. Because the year is 365. This is 370. A whole year plus. A couple what?
I don't know.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't respond in one year anymore. That's true.
A spawn a year,
[00:53:29] Speaker B: a spawn a year.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: No, but now, yeah.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: It takes more than a year to read a spawn.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: If you've read one spawn a day, it takes more than a year now.
[00:53:39] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:53:40] Speaker A: What a ride that would be.
We're changing format. That's our new format. Our new format.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: We're just gonna do a five minute episode every day.
[00:53:47] Speaker A: We have to release an episode every day, David.
[00:53:50] Speaker B: There's no way that that wouldn't just be so much fun.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: 70 spawn. 370 spawn.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: 370.
[00:54:01] Speaker A: And I have the. A cover.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: Oh, nice.
And who does that? A cover.
[00:54:09] Speaker A: There's four covers. God damn it. We have to be thorough. We have to Cover Recovered it. I gotta look it up. I hate looking it up online.
[00:54:17] Speaker B: Got the Jonathan Rube is the one you have, Joni?
[00:54:22] Speaker A: Absolutely. With Steve Cannon.
[00:54:24] Speaker B: Nice.
The only one I can't find is cover D. Oh.
Cover D is just a black and white version of COVID C. And cover C is a Young Bloods crossover. And it's also just Al Simmons sitting there, glowing green hand chains contemplating just.
He's, he's. He's.
He's not Spider Manning, which he usually does.
He's.
[00:54:52] Speaker A: He feels like he's in a safety zone. He's in like surrounded by chains. He's in A.
He's recharging.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like he's like he's a spider just hanging out in his web.
Chilling.
Well, it's a good one. I've got A, the B cover, the Fede Melee cover, and it is Spawn. Just like leaning against a fucking coffin in a crypt. And there's just like a spooky face behind him and there's a sky more
[00:55:19] Speaker A: of a King Spawn. Like an early King Spawn.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, definitely.
[00:55:23] Speaker A: The shadows and the light.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great.
[00:55:27] Speaker A: You want to trade?
[00:55:29] Speaker B: Sure, Just. Just stick. You stick it. You stick it in your USB port and I'll stick this one in mine and we'll.
[00:55:34] Speaker A: No, I mean for. I will send it over mail.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, sure, sure.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: Media mail. If you just media. It's very cheap.
[00:55:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I fucking love media mail.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's like a night if you ever need to send something you can't. It can't have a card with. It has to be just.
[00:55:48] Speaker B: Just media.
[00:55:49] Speaker A: Yeah, just a book or whatever you send it. Media mail. It's very cheap.
[00:55:54] Speaker B: I love, I love buying comic books for friends and sending them into the mail by media mail. Or like if I'm at a bookstore and I see a book that's on sale and it reminds me of somebody that is going in the mail.
Media mail.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Two bucks to send a book.
[00:56:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's incredible.
[00:56:09] Speaker A: I think it's like 157 or something. Yeah, I've seen them cheap.
[00:56:13] Speaker B: Love the media mail. Well, so that's A covers A and B, Johnny.
And it looks like it covers C and D are the Brett Booth cover. And D is just a non colored version of C.
And C is a crossover, is a youngblood team up up variant. Right. And it's got. Oh, it's got Chapel. Chapel. And it's got Priests and it's got Commando Spawn and whoo.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: They're arguing over who's killed Spawn?
[00:56:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty funny actually.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: It's great. This cover's awesome.
[00:56:54] Speaker B: I love it. It's good. It's fun. Chap Chapel still doesn't make any sense.
[00:57:00] Speaker A: It reminds me of. It has the flavors of what I mentioned in the Star wars episode of George Lucas wearing the Han shot first shirt to express it was the press day.
[00:57:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: All the behind the scenes footage was one day. And he's in the chop fur shirt.
What's he doing to us?
[00:57:20] Speaker B: He's just a little stinker, Johnny. What else does he have? He doesn't have Star wars anymore. He just has money.
[00:57:26] Speaker A: He's opening a museum.
[00:57:28] Speaker B: I guess it's true. Yeah. Stupid.
[00:57:30] Speaker A: He should be very. I hope George Lucas is very happy.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: I hope so too.
[00:57:34] Speaker A: He tried to help everybody. He made some fun stuff. He made modern mythology.
[00:57:38] Speaker B: He got the.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: He's the closest to a modern religion anyone's achieved in the last like 40 years.
[00:57:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he's like fucking Homer. I mean Homer the poet, not homie.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we all know you men.
[00:57:51] Speaker B: I mean just. Just on the off chance I just wanted to do a homie and like
[00:57:55] Speaker A: everyone shouting the prequels when they came out and we've talked about a lot of this podcast but like now they don't appreciate it.
[00:58:01] Speaker B: Yeah, prequels are fun. We could all be so lucky to just make bank off of doing just some shit that you wanted to do.
[00:58:09] Speaker A: Anyway, those are the biggest independent movies at that time of all time.
He completely self financed them. Yeah, there's a biddy war with episode one. The who distributed in Fox one for like tradition and like, like, you know. Yeah, but they didn't make. They didn't make Empire. They didn't make returns. Those are independent movies.
[00:58:30] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:58:31] Speaker A: That's pretty crazy.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: That is crazy.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: He started his own studio.
Then he made Howard the Duck and Radio Murders and the Radio landmark. Have you ever seen Radio?
[00:58:41] Speaker B: I have not.
[00:58:43] Speaker A: I feel like you might like that. He.
He didn't direct it, but he like helped get it made.
[00:58:47] Speaker B: The problem is I love Howard the Duck, but the Howard the Duck movie is okay.
[00:58:53] Speaker A: One thing's weird thing about both those movies. Do you remember Howard the Duck? They show the ducks tits.
[00:58:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: In Radiant Murders, there's boobs, there's tits. When he opens, it's pg.
How did George Lucas get away with that? I don't know, Johnny. I don't know. It's very playful. Like it's actually for a second, but he opens the dressing room on accident. And like they do this and, like, throw rocks at him or something. Like, it's very cartoony, but, like, it's in a PG movie.
Got away with it.
[00:59:19] Speaker B: Yeah, but that was PG 13.
[00:59:21] Speaker A: That was a naked woman, David.
[00:59:23] Speaker B: That was. That was. That was. That was. No, that was not just a woman, Johnny.
That was not. Oh, fuck. Who was it? Kate Winslet? That was Kate fucking Winston.
I wanted to say Nicole Kidman, but it wasn't Nicole.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: That was on TV the other day. Titanic or on Pluto. TV movie rules.
[00:59:42] Speaker B: It's a good movie.
James Cameron makes a good movie, Johnny.
[00:59:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's shocking, controversial. It's almost like he's a weird scientist that knows how to, like, manipulate people's brains.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he might be.
[00:59:54] Speaker A: What other weird brain scientists we have in front of us, though, David?
[00:59:57] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, we have ourselves the credits full of.
[01:00:03] Speaker A: So who's our weird brain scientist?
[01:00:06] Speaker B: Our Weird suspect number one, the man running this brain salad surgery is Mr. Todd McFarlane. Doing script plot.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: Does he sleep time?
[01:00:19] Speaker B: He. He might be writing this in his sleep. That might be what's happening.
He just has like a. He, like, videotapes him sleeping, and he's just like, the stuff he says.
[01:00:27] Speaker A: I don't want to discredit him too much because maybe we're on the prequel side. We're talking about George Lucas, and, like, there is an energy to them. And they always get me riled up, and they always get me, and I'm like, what the hell? And, like. Like, there's something to that between.
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Between. Between the two of these Todd McFarlane issues. This one, I.
I felt this one was kind of groovy.
[01:00:47] Speaker A: I felt, you know why, David?
[01:00:49] Speaker B: What?
[01:00:50] Speaker A: This is a cube for that.
[01:00:54] Speaker B: Okay, that one was. That element of this issue I felt was a little out of left field.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: A little I was fine with.
[01:01:05] Speaker B: Didn't really entirely fit what I think of Spawn, but apparently Spawn is now just horny. So.
[01:01:13] Speaker A: Yes.
Is your VPN blocked? You get a vpn, brother. Like, you just go check off the board.
[01:01:20] Speaker B: He doesn't want to upload his. He doesn't want to upload his license.
Just.
[01:01:24] Speaker A: Just VPN it, dude.
[01:01:28] Speaker B: We got art by Brett Boo.
We got inks by Adelsa Corona on pages 1 through 5, 8 through 17, and 20, by Steve Lyckowski on pages 6 through 7, and by Daniel Enriquez. Pages 18 and 19, Colors by Robert Nugent, lettering by Tom Wozikowski. We covered the covers. Todd McFarlane is the creative director, and Thomas Healy is the editor in chief.
And previously in Spawn.
Spawn interrupts horrific medical Experiments on the vampires and gets himself an upgrade.
I'm gonna take that again.
[01:02:12] Speaker A: Why?
[01:02:14] Speaker B: Okay, I'm one.
[01:02:17] Speaker A: Why are you laughing so hard?
[01:02:19] Speaker B: It's just the way they put it. Like, instead of. Instead of. Instead of saying. And like, forces the doctors to perform experimental surgery out of it. Just gets himself an upgrade.
He just goes. He just goes in for the new vampire wing. Look, Johnny.
[01:02:39] Speaker A: Yes. It's, you know, it's video game speak.
[01:02:43] Speaker B: David, he's been like. Like his, his. His body's been this way for, you know, 35 years. He just needs a little. He's a little boost. A little boost.
It's just. It's just a weird way to.
To phrase it, I feel. But yes, Spawn did in fact get an upgrade because he beat the. Out of some angel demon doctors and was like, you're gonna attach these vampire wings to me and you're gonna do it right goddamn now.
[01:03:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:03:12] Speaker B: And if you up, I'm gonna kill you and your family and your family's family and then that guy over there, because I don't give a shit.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: But the, the issue takes up from the narrator's point of view of this, I guess. I don't even remember there being a woman on an operating table. I don't remember if there was.
[01:03:30] Speaker B: I mean, I remember. I remember there being a couple of vampires being operated on, like vivisected.
And that's all I remember.
[01:03:39] Speaker A: I don't know. We'll get into it. But like, he's like, okay, so it takes her. She doesn't remember.
[01:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Miss Mississippi is awfully close to New Orleans. And vampires are awfully in Interview with the Vampire. I Wonder if Todd McFarlane had been watching an interview with a vampire and was like maybe 12 year old vampire girl. Yes, indeed.
[01:04:04] Speaker A: It's one of Megan's favorite movies.
[01:04:06] Speaker B: It is a good, lush movie. I don't want to see the story ever again because I've seen the movie a bajillion times. I read the book. Book Wanda. Wanda loves the new AMC series, but it's.
It's not a story I want to keep going back to.
[01:04:22] Speaker A: You know, I've never seen it.
[01:04:24] Speaker B: This isn't.
[01:04:25] Speaker A: And Megan's gonna find out on this podcast. She's never asked me.
[01:04:28] Speaker B: You should probably watch it. It's got Christian Slater in it.
[01:04:31] Speaker A: He's screaming right now. Probably.
I would love it. I would have seen parts of it on like, tbs, I guess.
So Spawn is murdering and then it like, does this weird backstory. It's like they're all from heaven. But then there's some. Also some demons,
[01:04:51] Speaker B: the traitorous demons that join their side.
This is an awesome two page spread, though.
Vampire wings spawn just.
I love these violators with little.
Little surgical masks on. That guy, that guy's like a one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater in the background there.
[01:05:15] Speaker A: Can you imagine? He pulls that surgeon who might just be a human guy that's there.
[01:05:20] Speaker B: He's like you.
[01:05:21] Speaker A: So like the pressure.
[01:05:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
The rest of you, back the away.
You come, sew this woman up,
[01:05:33] Speaker A: and
[01:05:33] Speaker B: it's like we know we hate each other, that we're at war.
You want to kill the enemy before they kill you. I get that. Those are the rules of war.
[01:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:46] Speaker B: Number one rule of war, Trying to kill the enemy before it kills you.
[01:05:49] Speaker A: That's the number one rule of war.
[01:05:51] Speaker B: But you don't get to experiment on them.
[01:05:53] Speaker A: But like this use like dialogue for like Speed Racer, like the. The old anime.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: Either you.
[01:05:58] Speaker A: In a good way. I like it.
[01:05:59] Speaker B: Either you kill people or you make them prisoners. But if I find any of you more acting like Nazi doctors again, I promise you don't want me finishing my thoughts.
[01:06:07] Speaker A: Watch, like History Channel. And they're like Nazi doctors who did a crazy experiment.
[01:06:14] Speaker B: I like that. He says, I promise you don't want me finishing my thought.
[01:06:19] Speaker A: It's such a crazy thing. He's like, okay, just kill him or don't, but don't experiment on them. Like, it's so weird and specific. I was cracking up.
[01:06:29] Speaker B: Oh, it's good.
[01:06:31] Speaker A: It's such a weird speech to give.
[01:06:32] Speaker B: So weird. And then.
[01:06:34] Speaker A: So can you imagine? It's like, hey, kill him or keep him a prisoner in a cell. Like, give him three meals. Otherwise.
You really like this. What does that tell us about Al Simmons?
[01:06:56] Speaker B: Simmons. Simmons either takes prisoners or he doesn't experiment on it. He just doesn't experiment.
[01:07:03] Speaker A: But you're probably anti that as a scientist, so.
[01:07:06] Speaker B: Oh, what? Anti not experimenting on prisoners of war?
Is that what you're implying?
[01:07:16] Speaker A: I just mean if. If a dead angel falls in front of you, you're not gonna do like a little experiment on it?
[01:07:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, if there's. If I. If I randomly come across a dead Angel, I'm gonna be like, let's get this up and see what makes it tick. But, like, okay, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna volunteer a prisoner for.
For experiments. That's a good star in institutional review board, Johnny. They wouldn't allow that.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: Have you ever seen anything you can't explain by science? In your heart believe that.
I know you talked about your grandma's ghost, but I can't remember.
[01:07:53] Speaker B: Oh, well, I mean, yeah.
I mean, frequently I am confronted with things that I don't have an explanation for, but science isn't really about explaining everything. It's about no science.
[01:08:06] Speaker A: But, like, I'm.
[01:08:07] Speaker B: I am not afraid of admitting that I don't know stuff and that stuff might not have an explanation. That's.
[01:08:15] Speaker A: That doesn't bother you, believe you've seen a ghost? Because I don't ever seen a guy.
[01:08:18] Speaker B: I know I've seen ghosts. They lived in my grandmother's house. My grandmother's house was fucking haunted. Yes, there were goddamn ghosts there.
[01:08:25] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:08:25] Speaker B: I am on record and have been made fun of at work a couple of times for it, but, yes. Do I have. What.
[01:08:34] Speaker A: What do they do?
[01:08:36] Speaker B: They don't. They don't really do much of anything. They're just fucking terrifying.
[01:08:40] Speaker A: Like me.
[01:08:41] Speaker B: Well, they. They obviously don't want you there. And, like, did you experience.
[01:08:46] Speaker A: What makes you say that? So one is, if you want to talk about. If you don't, you don't talk about it.
[01:08:51] Speaker B: It's sort of like an. The best way I'll tell you, my weird experience, the best way I think I can describe it, is sort of like an empathetic transfer. It's like they don't want you there. You can feel that they don't want you there. And it is an unsettling feeling being in a place that you aren't wanted and not knowing what the hell is going on. Like, why do I suddenly feel like I shouldn't be here? Kind of thing.
[01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:18] Speaker B: It's also really to. Just hard to describe how ghosts kind of look because they look more like feelings than they look like things.
[01:09:28] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:09:29] Speaker B: And that is a terrible way of describing it, but that is exactly.
Do you. There's like. Afterwards, you're like, I didn't see anything. You know exactly what it is when you were in that moment, and it scared the piss out of everybody. My entire family has gotten together at multiple points and shared their experiences, and we can all pinpoint exactly the moment that the ghosts left.
And yeah, they're fucking ghosts. They exist. They're. They're here whether you think they exist or not.
[01:10:08] Speaker A: So the craziest thing I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever said this in the podcast, but I'm like, I experienced this. I was in my room.
[01:10:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: In Tulsa, Midtown Tulsa, in 2002.
[01:10:25] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:10:25] Speaker A: And I was watching Edward Scissor. I just bought Edward Scissorhands. Or I just got it for Christmas.
I hadn't watched it yet, so it was like a few weeks after Christmas. And I got on dvd. I was watching my DVD player, my room. And my room looked over a big backyard.
And I saw literally out of the corner of my eye, like, and like, it all. And I looked over like halfway through, but like just a basketball size orb of light. I'm not kidding. This happened to me, okay? It like rose to the ground. Like, it was revealed through the ground and just rose straight up and just went. And I. The light like shined on my roof room and it like affected. Like the light was real. And I just like, whoa. And I went into the room.
It's like 10:30 at night. My mom was watching Jay Leno and she's like, you look freaked out. I'm like, I'm really freaked out. And I told her what happened. She's like, that's crazy. Why don't you just, like sit out here and watch this with me? And I didn't want to go to my room.
And I eventually went back, went to bed. Nothing else, ever. I've never seen anything else supernatural. I know. And I don't think it was ball lightning. I don't know what the that was.
[01:11:28] Speaker B: Damn.
[01:11:28] Speaker A: I saw it.
[01:11:29] Speaker B: That's. That scared the out of me, Johnny.
[01:11:32] Speaker A: It was weird.
[01:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah, shit's weird.
Existence is wild.
It is the height of hubris to assume that we can explain everything weird
[01:11:44] Speaker A: about how, like, Jimmy Carter was told the truth about aliens. He cried for like two days. It's like a common rumor for many years. I just heard about that.
[01:11:55] Speaker B: I've never heard that before, but I would believe it because Jimmy Carter had a soul, man.
[01:12:03] Speaker A: We're like, I don't know, man. Who knows what reality is? No, no, but the reality I live in is that Swan is spreading his vampire wings. He saved this. Yeah, let's just say it, David.
[01:12:17] Speaker B: Buxom lady.
[01:12:20] Speaker A: I didn't say buxom. Lance and hottie.
[01:12:23] Speaker B: I'm pretty.
I'm pretty sure we get to see some side boob at some point, right? That's fine.
[01:12:28] Speaker A: That's not what I focus on.
[01:12:30] Speaker B: Oh, no, I'm conflating that with another comic book that I read earlier.
They had Mary Magdalene side boob.
Mary Magdalene. It's the they. They recently finally printed a late 80s this issue of Swamp Thing where Swamp Thing becomes the cross that Jesus is crucified on.
It's. It's excellent. It's great if you can find it. They just printed it, like, two weeks ago.
It's cool. But there's some. There's some Mary Magdalene side boob. You should probably get side boob. What were we talking about?
Okay, so we're talking about this hottie.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: This high said hottie. You said buxom lady. Is she. I don't think she is.
We all know what you're focused on, David.
[01:13:19] Speaker B: Johnny.
[01:13:20] Speaker A: She's like this. She's a pale brunette who is spooky.
[01:13:26] Speaker B: That's.
I don't care who you are.
That is your type.
[01:13:31] Speaker A: What? It's everyone's.
[01:13:33] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. It's everybody's type.
[01:13:35] Speaker A: I don't.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: I don't care what you think. That is everyone's type of.
[01:13:40] Speaker A: So he's like, yo, I saved your ass.
[01:13:42] Speaker B: Let's go. Let's fly out of here.
Like, zoom out.
[01:13:45] Speaker A: He kills his friend.
[01:13:48] Speaker B: Well, she's. She's like, they were torturing my friend. And Spot's like, he'll suffer no more. He gives him the. He gives him the sin treatment.
[01:13:58] Speaker A: And they're flying. He's like, do you need rest? Like, yeah, man.
And she's, like, bleeding.
[01:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah. She's like, how about. How about we go into this big old pipe that I know here?
And then he gives her. He gives her a little bit of the necroplasmic healing.
[01:14:15] Speaker A: Martina.
[01:14:16] Speaker B: Yeah, this. This, like, nose gap that he's got right here where he's got, like, no nose. That's so hard. Look at it. Spawn is terrifying as when he's all vamptied.
[01:14:30] Speaker A: I like that. We, like. We're anti Spawn notes.
This is our first episode.
[01:14:36] Speaker B: How. Right here. While the. The.
After they've gotten to the pipe and they sit and they rest. He's literally just sitting on that pipe, like, swinging his legs back and forth.
Like they're having a little gab sesh. Just like. So what are you doing.
Then?
[01:14:58] Speaker A: What do we do, David?
[01:14:59] Speaker B: We cut two nature documentary 2.0.
Africa. Africa.
[01:15:07] Speaker A: I swear to God. He watched Planet Earth. He fell asleep watching Planet Earth. Or conquered Africa near the Congo Basin.
Like, the top two gorillas, Lions.
Maybe. You watched the Ghost in the Darkness. You ever watched the Ghost?
[01:15:21] Speaker B: I love the Ghost of the Darkness. That's.
[01:15:23] Speaker A: You were. I bet you were a lot. Did your parents allow you to watch that?
[01:15:26] Speaker B: That was the first rated R movie I ever saw.
And we were. We were watching it on a pizza and movie night. And, like, I noticed the back of the box said, oh, at the beginning of the movie. And I was like, I can't say anything about this. I'm gonna get away with it. I'm gonna get away with it. And then by the end of the movie, I was like, hi, you let me watch an R rated movie. And they were like, but it was good though.
I was like, okay, yeah, we love
[01:15:49] Speaker A: the Ghost of Darkness.
[01:15:51] Speaker B: And then the Ghost in the Darkness lions are at the Field Museum. But they look like. Because the guys who captured them turned them into fucking rugs.
And so they had to like reverse taxidermy them from these lion rugs. So they're really taste.
[01:16:07] Speaker A: The taste of the man flesh. Yeah.
[01:16:09] Speaker B: The man eaters of Zavo.
[01:16:13] Speaker A: Anyway, we cut to Africa.
[01:16:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And we got some hunter scouts going after this lion.
[01:16:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Why did they go kill a lion?
I feel like we could eat it.
[01:16:25] Speaker B: I don't know if lions get eaten.
[01:16:27] Speaker A: Do people hunt lions?
[01:16:28] Speaker B: I think I.
My conception is people only hunt lions if the lions being a problem.
But otherwise it's just. It's just not worth. It's just not worth it.
[01:16:40] Speaker A: Well, he lives in a demon den. Because these guys come in here, it's full of bones.
[01:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah, Full of bones. And then they get in there and then there's this bright light and then we get the Hell Symbiote or Hell Hell Cenobites.
[01:16:52] Speaker A: They show up again.
[01:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah, these new characters that Tom McFarland created, they look cool though. So they do. We got like Medusa and goddamn Pinhead's great grandson.
[01:17:06] Speaker A: He's like the CD guy. But it's like a record. Yeah, remember the CD guy? Like Hellraiser 4 or 5.
Like a CD player.
If.
[01:17:21] Speaker B: If I recall correctly, he actually shoots CDs out of his chest too, doesn't he?
[01:17:26] Speaker A: I don't remember.
[01:17:29] Speaker B: Oh, I love Cenobites. But then, so. So these two. These two hellions are just. Let's. They. They attack these two villagers and one of them gives the. Gives them the chest beam of disintegration.
And the other one just like, like is running away from them and runs into the cave and gets eaten by the lion.
He had forgotten about the other beast in the cave.
[01:17:51] Speaker A: So that's where they're hunted. Lions. He had a taste for manflight.
[01:17:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:17:55] Speaker A: I guess he was the ghost or the Darkness.
[01:17:58] Speaker B: One of the two, maybe both.
And so then they're like, well, look at these bones. We gotta find a bone in these pile of bones. And then they look for a bone and they're like, bones. Finally, I have found it in One of the, the. The Medusa lady finds it and the other one's like toxin. You did it, baby. I knew you would.
Okay, so these two are an item. Officially.
[01:18:23] Speaker A: His name's Skinner.
[01:18:25] Speaker B: Skinner
[01:18:27] Speaker A: skimmers. He's skimming that record.
[01:18:30] Speaker B: And then later Sins shows up and he's just like, ha, thank you for finding my bone that I needed you to find.
[01:18:36] Speaker A: This is like. That feels like a scream at the end of a level of a video game. It's like, haha, thanks for doing that.
[01:18:43] Speaker B: Or like the, the old, like, like a Pokemon style battle game. Like that's, that's when you lose. That's what the guy says.
[01:18:51] Speaker A: He's like, yeah, like an old final cut to imagine. It's a Tom McFarlane story. Whatever. In an empty office in a millionth
[01:19:01] Speaker B: floor of a tower, in the place where they make the best salsa. Johnny. New York City.
[01:19:11] Speaker A: God damn.
I bet there's some good salsa in New York City.
[01:19:16] Speaker B: I'm sure, I'm sure there's probably some excellent salsa from New York City. It's. Anything's better than Pace. I'll tell you that.
Pace sucks.
[01:19:24] Speaker A: We talked about this.
[01:19:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. It's called callback.
[01:19:27] Speaker A: I like it.
[01:19:29] Speaker B: It's too wide, it's too. The, the chunks are too chunky compared to the wateriness of the actual sauce. Sauce. It.
It's incohesive to me.
But anyway, we've got blood.
[01:19:41] Speaker A: You shake it. You shake it.
You shake it before you dish it out.
[01:19:46] Speaker B: You have to shake all salsas or else you get the water and then the goop.
[01:19:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think you shook it.
[01:19:51] Speaker B: No. Paste just sucks. Sorry, Johnny.
[01:19:56] Speaker A: But hey, stop. With a mild base you can, you
[01:19:58] Speaker B: can have, you can have all the paste that I don't eat. How about that? That we did used to buy it at Sam's and like the gallon joke.
[01:20:05] Speaker A: Oh God, it's probably molded. It's probably full of ants.
So.
[01:20:12] Speaker B: Yeah, blood is so.
[01:20:12] Speaker A: Blood's chilling. He's dressed like Matrix Guy.
[01:20:17] Speaker B: Yeah, he is just like matrix guy 100. And then he's like, I know you're there. I feel you in the shadows. And then Al Simmons is like, hey, how's it here? I'm not here to fight you.
And then he says the opening reading.
There's a lot of this. Heaven, hell, etc, etc.
[01:20:36] Speaker A: It's just like.
[01:20:38] Speaker B: He's just like, what worked in the past. Let's just write it again.
And blood's just like, yeah, we've always
[01:20:45] Speaker A: resolved the Last conflict. They're, like, spying on each other and all this.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: It's like, well, Johnny. Johnny, they. They say that in the text of this issue that when. When the angels and the demons all got their power back, the.
The vampires got booted off the power.
The power rankings, just, like, overnight, they were worthless.
[01:21:05] Speaker A: They're off the leaderboards.
[01:21:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And then so. So, blood, like, it's like, I threaten you, Al Simmons, and Al Simmons says, you're wrong. And it just like, vampire wings out and just a. Blood goes, what are those?
You mean these wings picked him up off the floor after an angel group amputated them off of one of your soldiers?
[01:21:26] Speaker A: That's a lot of information.
[01:21:29] Speaker B: It's like these. I just. I just found. They were just laying around, so he's just like.
[01:21:34] Speaker A: And blood just like, what do you want? Like, he just goes like, what do you want, man?
Okay. You did some crazy. We get it. Spawn.
[01:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Spawn says, I want what you want. Vengeance.
So they're Batman now, Johnny. They both turned into Batman. They're Batman. And then blood's just like, okay, whatever you say. Lead the way. I'll follow you.
[01:21:54] Speaker A: And he goes, you're. If you're ready, let's fly.
[01:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah, they're. They're flying through the air with a whole bunch of bats.
And it says, next, the trifecta.
I like the billboards.
I like the billboards in the back. This is. This is a great panel, by the way.
Two vampire men flying through New York City skyline. I like the billboards.
Food. Eat it.
Smelly stuff for her.
[01:22:24] Speaker A: I like smelly stuff for her.
[01:22:28] Speaker B: It says, next, the trifecta.
Then we get necroplastic meter 4278. I don't know.
[01:22:36] Speaker A: 27 is my lucky number.
[01:22:37] Speaker B: Oh, nice. I. I don't know what this means. I haven't been keeping up with it. It seems to go up and down and up and down willingly.
[01:22:43] Speaker A: This is pretty good. This is pretty good.
[01:22:44] Speaker B: It seems like a decent amount, but, yeah. I don't know.
What are you gonna do about it?
And, Johnny, for the first time in a long time, we get a Spawning Grounds Presents cosplay.
And it's Thomas Healey. Got to meet this guy. He got met the green hood at New York Comic Con.
And, well, he does cosplay as apparently
[01:23:09] Speaker A: badass cosplay, the green hood.
[01:23:11] Speaker B: And as Al Simmons.
Very nice. Got some good pictures here.
They're real good.
[01:23:19] Speaker A: It's almost like that could be our shout out.
[01:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, Johnny.
Spoilers.
[01:23:27] Speaker A: All right.
[01:23:27] Speaker B: Keep your mouth shut.
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[01:23:42] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus Christ. Let's move on.
[01:23:45] Speaker B: Oh, boy. Then we get the image. Classic sad.
The Fallout Toy ad is the back of the COVID toy ad.
[01:23:53] Speaker A: Yes. We've got Lena Purnell or something. Pernell's her name.
Alice or Sally, whatever.
[01:24:02] Speaker B: Well, because she plays Lucy in the show.
[01:24:04] Speaker A: Lucy.
[01:24:06] Speaker B: We got the ghoul played by Walton Goggins.
[01:24:09] Speaker A: We got the guy who joins the Brotherhood of Seal. And we got a Death Claw.
[01:24:13] Speaker B: Yeah, and that Johnny spawn 370.
And Johnny, we've done it again. We've made it mostly the way through an episode without some dogs going crazy in the background.
[01:24:25] Speaker A: What the hell? What's going on?
[01:24:27] Speaker B: Still got it. Still gotta. Still gotta say whether they're good puppies or not, Johnny. So we gotta rate these puppies.
[01:24:34] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies.
First up, we had scorched 47.
[01:24:42] Speaker B: 47.
[01:24:43] Speaker A: 47. That's a good number.
[01:24:45] Speaker B: That's. It's not. It's a decent number. It's a. I don't hate it.
[01:24:49] Speaker A: It's written by Tom McFarland, not by John Layman, as we established.
[01:24:53] Speaker B: And it is not the better for it.
Oh, no offense, Todd McFarlane, but you are no John Lehman.
[01:25:02] Speaker A: I want to pile on the Todd father, but it's just. They're very. I don't know.
[01:25:10] Speaker B: It's not great.
[01:25:11] Speaker A: I said it'd be the first in a long time. We give a score split three. I'm gonna give it 2.5.
Fall asleep with cable on first things first, you know what I mean?
[01:25:21] Speaker B: Like, yeah.
[01:25:21] Speaker A: Him falling asleep with, like, a TV show on. I don't know.
[01:25:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:25:24] Speaker A: It just feels so behind the.
What did we say? It feels dated.
[01:25:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:25:31] Speaker A: 2.5. Dated.
[01:25:32] Speaker B: It's 2.5. Hasn't read Batman since 2013, right? Yeah.
[01:25:37] Speaker A: 2.5 is Dallas said of challengers, has read Batman since 2013.
[01:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
I have to say, the art is fantastic in this issue.
[01:25:47] Speaker A: However, goes without saying. Goes without saying.
[01:25:49] Speaker B: However, that is only half of what is here.
The start fucking rocks. So Steven Segovia, Raymond Gay. They're both getting. They're both getting five gorillas coming out of the bush.
Absolutely. Hands down. Those two, they get their own. They get their own thing. But, man, as a fucking. As a fucking story, this gets too fucking hungover. I can't go by Freddy. I have to go by Frank's.
[01:26:14] Speaker A: I have to go by Frank.
[01:26:16] Speaker B: The series was fucking fantastic. John Lehman was doing a thing and he did the thing and it was fucking great.
And Todd McFarlane came in and like, was like, we don't need to fucking do. Let's just do something else. But that's not what we're here for. This book for it. It's lost its way, Johnny.
It's lost its way. It's sad.
2.
[01:26:42] Speaker A: He's doing what he's doing for reason. But I have hope for the future.
[01:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:26:45] Speaker A: The trades of new storylines, new writers taking over. Him taking a step back. It seems like maybe.
[01:26:50] Speaker B: Maybe. Yeah. Him. Him not having to write 14 different books at once will probably help.
Like give Tom McFarlane a book to write and then he won't repeat himself 14 million times. And I think. I think that would be good. But I do think the. The him spreading himself across every title is not good for all of the titles because then there's no. There's no air between them. They're all just. Just the same thing.
I know we had this discussion with tiny spawning as well.
[01:27:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:27:22] Speaker B: Well, hey, the next up we got spawn 370. Johnny.
[01:27:28] Speaker A: So what you give it.
[01:27:29] Speaker B: I gave it. I gave it 2. Call me Frank's not Eddies.
[01:27:33] Speaker A: I gave 2.5. I gave it better score. You gave.
[01:27:35] Speaker B: You gave it. You gave it a better score than I did.
[01:27:38] Speaker A: All right.
[01:27:38] Speaker B: You're much. You're much more magnanimous.
[01:27:40] Speaker A: Next up, we got Swan 3. 870.
We're in this Tom McFarland. Mal.
Is that. Is that a word?
[01:27:50] Speaker B: Melange deluge. It's like a. It's like a mix between.
[01:27:55] Speaker A: I like Mallou. I'm going to use it.
[01:27:58] Speaker B: Malou sounds like a water slide that you would get lost in a Malou.
[01:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, you're in the Malou yet.
What am I going to say about spawn 370?
It's got a cute brunette.
[01:28:11] Speaker B: Hey, could be doing worse, Johnny. There could be no cute brunette.
[01:28:16] Speaker A: I don't know. It's. It just feels like. What? Okay, sure.
[01:28:22] Speaker B: I feel like I know spot Al Simmons less after reading this issue.
[01:28:27] Speaker A: Yeah, he's crazy.
[01:28:28] Speaker B: This man makes no sense screaming about
[01:28:30] Speaker A: like, oh my God, like we. We talked about already. I don't know. So I'm gonna give it 2.5.
Smelly stuffer.
[01:28:42] Speaker B: Hell yeah. I love that smelly stuff.
First off, art's great.
[01:28:48] Speaker A: Art's great.
[01:28:49] Speaker B: The Brett Booth art is fantastic.
I don't wanna. I don't wanna talk about this anymore. Jenny. I'm just gonna give it to two and a half Spawn and brunette lady. Having a gab sesh on the playground
[01:29:05] Speaker A: with his legs kicking.
[01:29:06] Speaker B: Spot. Kicking his legs back and forth is the funniest thing I have seen in at least a week.
[01:29:12] Speaker A: I said Brett was touched.
[01:29:16] Speaker B: It's just to think Spawn being like, so, what are you doing?
[01:29:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cute.
[01:29:23] Speaker B: Did you see Mark today?
[01:29:25] Speaker A: It's good.
[01:29:28] Speaker B: Well, you know what else is good, Johnny? The Spawn immunity is good.
[01:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah, we know our response.
[01:29:34] Speaker B: Yeah, you already spoiled it. We got it. We get it. We get it. We got a handage to us. So we got a shout out at green arrow, underscore17 on Instagram, because he's doing some Spawn cosplay. He's doing some Green Arrow cosplay. He's doing some cosplay. If you're doing Spawn cosplay, that automatically means we're gonna shout you out, because that is hard. As Wanda used to do cosplay, and I was the guy who had to carry the goddamn bag. And that is no joke.
[01:29:59] Speaker A: You remember we went to Sam and Twist to Chicago.
[01:30:01] Speaker B: Yeah, we were.
[01:30:02] Speaker A: We were approved when we saw that Spawn. That's amazing.
[01:30:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we were. We were approved as Sam and Twitch by Tom Rosakowski himself.
[01:30:09] Speaker A: He, like, had a horse. You remember? He had, like, a horror in his eyes. He's like. You are saying it was very profound. You know what I'm talking about?
[01:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It was awesome.
[01:30:17] Speaker A: He, like, stood up or something. It was crazy.
[01:30:20] Speaker B: That was. That was a fun time.
Oh, boy.
[01:30:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:30:24] Speaker B: Give them a follow at green arrow, underscore 17. That's 17 not spelled out. 17.
While you're over on Instagram, give us a. Give us a follow. Give us a look. We're at. Regarding Spawn Pod.
Posting. Posting stuff again. I'm.
I'm posting stuff again.
[01:30:44] Speaker A: I hate social media.
[01:30:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there. If you also don't like social media, you can always get a cold. But get a cold. Get a hold of us via email
[01:30:55] Speaker A: feed on social media, which is a good thing. It's healthy for you.
[01:30:58] Speaker B: Yeah. @regardingspawnmail.com and right now, we're in the midst of this push for me to get rid of this. Not get rid of. For me to. To spread the joy of the 1990s.
[01:31:11] Speaker A: I'm taking over, David.
Yo.
[01:31:14] Speaker B: You listen to the show and you've
[01:31:16] Speaker A: heard us messages before?
[01:31:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:31:18] Speaker A: Hit us up at. Regarding SpawnPod. Gmail.com. send you in God's America's USPS.
[01:31:24] Speaker B: Mail by a media mail.
[01:31:26] Speaker A: Copy by media mail. A copy of Violator, the Alore miniseries from the 90s. Yes. So just do it.
[01:31:34] Speaker B: Yes. Hit it. Do it. At this. At this point, just. If you send us an email and you aren't Tiny Spiny, who has already passed on receiving the book, we'll send it to you. Just. Just send us an email.
I want you to read this goddamn thing because it's fun as hell also while you're on the Internet. Speaking of fun as hell, Lonnie Bones does our music, and it is nice.
[01:31:57] Speaker A: Give them a Google.
[01:31:58] Speaker B: Just Google. Google.
[01:32:00] Speaker A: Give us a rate review. Subscribe to us and Lonnie Bones at the same time.
[01:32:04] Speaker B: Do it. You can do it on. Actually, I guess you can't do it on the same Apple. You have to do Apple podcasts and Apple music.
[01:32:09] Speaker A: Unless you do Spotify.
[01:32:10] Speaker B: You do Spotify.
[01:32:12] Speaker A: Same app.
[01:32:13] Speaker B: Very nice.
So you know what else is very nice, Johnny?
[01:32:21] Speaker A: What?
[01:32:22] Speaker B: This.
This is fucking fun as hell.
I actually kind of. I actually kind of like it when we don't like the books as much because then it gets a little bit more unhinged. And I love an unhinged episode with you, Johnny. But speaking of unhinged, let us unhinge our jaws and consume some more spawns in the next week.
And next week, we are going to cover the Curse of shirley johnson Number three and deadly tales of the gunslinger, number 12.
[01:32:51] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:32:52] Speaker B: Oh, man, that's a weird pairing. But, hey, that's. That's what we got coming up.
[01:32:56] Speaker A: We're weird with the Y, baby.
[01:32:57] Speaker B: You know, I don't. I don't make the decisions on what we read next. So don't.
I do make the decisions.
I just flipped through the books I have. Ah. That's what we're gonna read next Text.
It's worked so far for us so far, Johnny. It has. I mean, people have. People have mentioned it, but that just means that they're mentioning us.
So, Johnny, I guess I have nothing else to say except for may the scorched be with you.
[01:33:24] Speaker A: May the force and the scorched be with you, David.
[01:33:27] Speaker B: May the forced scorched be with you.
May the scorch.
[01:33:30] Speaker A: May you not force Jessica priest into Todd McFarlane's writing ever again.
Amen.
It.