RE:STAR WARS Episode 3 - Revenge Of The Sith - With Guest Bran Moorehead

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is where the fun begins. Good morning and welcome to the cantina. This is regarding Star wars, the world's millionth Star wars podcast. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Something like that. [00:00:44] Speaker A: I am your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:46] Speaker B: And I am your co pilot, David Williams. [00:00:49] Speaker A: Oh, copilot. [00:00:50] Speaker B: Like it? I'm looking kind of Wookieesque. I just need the bandolier and some more. [00:00:54] Speaker A: You do look like a Wookiee. And I look like Han Solo, if I don't say so myself. [00:00:58] Speaker B: I would absolutely say that you are 1 hundo percent the Han Solo of this outfit. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Thank you. [00:01:05] Speaker B: And, well, we can't go anywhere without the protocol droids. The protocol droids who keep us on task and definitely the smartest people in Star Wars. We happen to have one with us today. [00:01:16] Speaker A: I want to consider them a protocol droid. Yeah, that's kind of a diss. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Hey, I'm talking the R2D2 of the. Of the outfit. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:27] Speaker B: There we go. There we go. [00:01:28] Speaker A: Yes. We have an astromech with us returning and future guest, Bran Morehead. [00:01:34] Speaker C: Hello there. [00:01:35] Speaker A: Hello there. General Moorhead. [00:01:39] Speaker C: General Kenobi. [00:01:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And we are here. You may be confused because we're normally a Spawn podcast. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:48] Speaker A: But once a year, once every glorious May, on May 4, we become what I always wanted to be, which is the Star wars podcast. I'm kidding. So, yeah, this is a very appropriate Star wars movie for Spawn podcast. So it's definitely the most hellish. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Oh, definitely. [00:02:06] Speaker C: Oh, for sure. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Star wars movie. A lot of hell imagery. [00:02:09] Speaker B: There's a good. You could definitely say that Mustafar is the Galactic Malbolge. [00:02:17] Speaker A: Absolutely. And I guess that would make Palpatine Malbolia. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:23] Speaker A: I mean, like pulls. He pulls a young warrior into his snare and I mean, it's kind of like the journey of Al Simmons in a way. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of. And conceivably he also has a little bitty pot belly. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Palpatine knows he fucks. [00:02:38] Speaker B: He definitely. [00:02:39] Speaker A: We know from Rise of Skywalker that Palpatine fucks. [00:02:41] Speaker C: We do know. Or I mean, maybe he's like Elon Musk and he's just like mailing his comics. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Well, in canon, it's a source inert clone. That is Rey's father. So that was in a book. [00:02:56] Speaker B: So that means. That means he's at least shooting off into a little container somewhere. So that means. Exactly. [00:03:02] Speaker C: Elon Musk style. [00:03:03] Speaker B: That implies the existence of Star wars pornography. Like in universe. [00:03:09] Speaker A: We've seen that, haven't we? [00:03:10] Speaker C: Sure. Yeah. I don't know if we've seen it, but we've seen, like, sexy dancing at Jar Jar. It's not a long jump from horny Twi'lek dancer to. [00:03:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess. I guess there's also holograph. [00:03:22] Speaker C: Holograph. I mean, I guess it would be a little hologram, right? [00:03:25] Speaker A: Well, there is. I think in Rogue One, they're watching, like, a hologram Twilight dancer at one point. [00:03:29] Speaker B: Okay. Or in the Star Wars Special, there's, like, Chewbacca's son is watching that. That racy, racy dancing while his grandfather's asleep next to him. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Lumpy, what the hell are you talking about? [00:03:44] Speaker B: In the Holiday special. [00:03:45] Speaker C: Oh, oh, the holiday special. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's like that, like, hologram sexy Twi'lek in Rogue One is more like a titty streamer than actual pornography though, right? Yeah, that's just like sexy TikTok. [00:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like sexy TikTok. [00:04:03] Speaker C: You get your only force. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Only force. Only gans. [00:04:10] Speaker C: Gan is only gan. Wow, that's actually really awesome. That is so nerdy. Now, which one's the gan? I think it's the bug guy. The. He's one of the band. I think he's one of the. The bounty hunters. [00:04:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, he's a Gan. It's Zuckus. [00:04:27] Speaker C: Zuckus Gan. And is it Gander? Gan? [00:04:31] Speaker A: I can't remember his Gan or Gand. [00:04:32] Speaker C: Oh, no, this is of Veranticus. It looks like. [00:04:36] Speaker A: Okay, look up Gan. [00:04:38] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. Is it Gan or Gan? [00:04:39] Speaker B: It says Gan is an Antaran province, but that's not again. That's betrayal wiki. Oh, the. The Wikipedia took me somewhere else. [00:04:49] Speaker C: Gand. And it's Plo Koon is a Gand. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:04:53] Speaker C: Oh, man. [00:04:54] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:04:55] Speaker B: The most inauspicious. [00:04:57] Speaker C: No, no. Disappearance. Hey, Google AI me up. It is insectoid, so maybe Zuckus is a Gand, but he's also listed as something else. I don't know. Google. It's completely broken. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Google's broken. [00:05:13] Speaker C: Any sort of googling is broken. Yes, it is what Zucker says. We were right the first time. [00:05:18] Speaker A: Okay? Kiati Mundi is 200 years old now because the acolyte. This is ruins. [00:05:23] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:05:24] Speaker A: What the is up with that? I thought he was like 45. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Plo Koon is something else. We don't know where he is. It's Keldor. Keldor Kel dor. Well, thank God we spent time. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Well, Pluto's death was one of the most shocking. Yeah, it was the most shocking moments of the fucking movie because for some reason Pluton died. So for context, everyone, we saw this together in 40x and I swear to God, when Plutun died, it was like the most intense 40x. Like Chair Rock. I don't know why. It was like that guy who did it who programmed it really, like plucoon. [00:06:00] Speaker B: Well, it's because it's also like the one Jedi death during order 66 that happens in a space battle. [00:06:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I was going to say it's also like. It's probably the only violent spaceship crash in this one. There's a bunch in two, but there's not a whole lot of. I mean, there's not a whole lot of ship battles other than the first 15 minutes. [00:06:19] Speaker A: That's about it. [00:06:20] Speaker C: Yeah, that's about it. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Oh, man. Lots of ship battle in that beginning part, though. Oh, dang. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Lots of ship battle. Yeah, we saw it in 40x for the 20th anniversary release, if you can believe it. [00:06:32] Speaker B: It was wonderful. [00:06:33] Speaker A: It was wonderful. It was introduced by Hayden Christensen. Everyone clapped when he came out. [00:06:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, they did. [00:06:38] Speaker A: And then everyone laughed the whole time. [00:06:40] Speaker B: Because the seats moved. [00:06:41] Speaker A: You can't stop laughing when you're in 40x. [00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah. It's very jarring, the shift between them using the rumble of a spaceship. Just making it a rumble. That's part of the music. So it's like, wait, are we music rumbling now or are we spaceship rumbling now? [00:06:58] Speaker C: Well, it's funny too, because the sound kind of sucks in 40x. [00:07:01] Speaker A: It's not great. [00:07:02] Speaker C: The sound is bad. It's like quiet. [00:07:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. There's all those fans that are also loud as hell. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:12] Speaker A: 40X. [00:07:14] Speaker C: I think twisters is. Twisters was the great. Was a great movie to do in 40x. [00:07:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:07:20] Speaker C: And that might. And like I might limit. Limit it to stuff like that. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:25] Speaker C: Because Revenge of Sith Happy hilarious blockbusters. Yeah, Revenge of the Sith. I was like, I moved chairs at one point because for some reason John got us front row tickets. [00:07:34] Speaker A: The only tickets left is what John got us. [00:07:36] Speaker C: That's. Well, there were like three rows clear when I got up and moved. [00:07:40] Speaker A: Well, those people didn't fucking show up. [00:07:42] Speaker B: I guess that's what happened. Yeah. But now since this is the second time that I've seen this movie and both times have been in the front row, that means that the next time I see this movie in theaters, I gotta be in the front row again. It's a front row. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Or if you watch it at home, you just got to sit right in front of the tv. [00:07:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I had to move, like. I don't know, right after the first big sequence, after they crash landed the. [00:08:04] Speaker B: Yep. [00:08:05] Speaker C: Basically ship. I had to get up and move because I was like, my neck. In addition to the chairs moving and stuff, like, staring straight up, I was like, I'm gonna walk out of here and not be able to move if I don't move. But anyway, I moved back to further back row. And when I sat there, it was like 30 minutes. I was like, oh, these chairs must not be working. That's why they didn't sell this row. But no, it was just because it was 30 minutes of dialogue and like. Like courtroom or not courtroom, but boardroom kind of scenes. And then as soon as something happened, it started moving again. I was like, oh, no, this is just. [00:08:39] Speaker A: There's just nothing about this movie. The action scenes are actually pretty dope, pretty awesome. But the middle section was just back and forth of two people. Show over shoulder, camera shot over shoulder, camera shot over shoulder, cameras, scenes of two people. That's all he does. [00:08:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:56] Speaker A: And you could tell, like, you could see the progression from, like, episode one where there's, like, scenes where, like, multiple characters interacting. Episode two kind of takes it down a notch. There's not really a lot of scene where more than two or three people are interacting in this movie. There's never a scene where more than two people are interacting. [00:09:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it's wild. It's. Do you think it's a. Do you think that that's just a side effect of him not taking enough time to write scripts? Because, I mean, I think. Yeah, I think he was like, all right, well, I'm behind. I need to get from this action sequence to this action sequence and eventually to the end here, where he's going to become Darth Vader. What do I need to convey? What's the least thing I need to convey in every scene? [00:09:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:09:40] Speaker C: And what character. What's the least amount of characters I can have do so? I mean, like, the only. The only scenes that are group scenes are like Jedi Council stuff. And that's like, it. Actually, I think that's the opening. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Grievous's office, when they're. When their office. [00:09:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. On his bridge of death. But I mean, that's like. Is that even multiple characters, though? Because really it's Grievous being like, oh, hello, you're here. And Anakin talking back to him because Obi Wan's knocked out. Palpatine, I guess, is there. And he's like. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Oh. [00:10:15] Speaker C: And he's kind of like cheering him on, but that's like. [00:10:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:19] Speaker C: Obi Wan's knocked out for that whole sequence. So you have. You have three sentences of dialogue between Christopher Lee and Anakin and Obi Wan. Christopher Lee is not known as Count Dooku. He's just known as Christopher Lee in this film, actually. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Yeah, he doesn't. He brings. He brings the heat like he always does. [00:10:40] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, he's got. He delivers the. One of the dumbest lines in the movie with like, such gravitas of like twice the pride, double the fall. It makes no sense at all. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Oh, that's a badass line. The best part that he does is when he looks at his. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Does that flip. [00:10:59] Speaker A: No, he just does that flip. [00:11:01] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:11:02] Speaker A: For no reason. [00:11:03] Speaker C: Yeah, he just like, does. He does, like a Benson Boon flip to come fight him. It's great. [00:11:09] Speaker A: And he just turns into a gummy bear. This is kind of one of the problems in this movie is every time everyone's feet leave the ground. [00:11:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Yeah. It wasn't so bad. [00:11:17] Speaker C: So much on this one. It didn't bug me too much. This. Because I've just. I feel like I'm so immune. Well, I just. See there's such bad, floaty, gummy CGI in so many movies now. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:11:30] Speaker C: That, like, when it's done, when there's like. Well, they clearly actually filmed Christopher Lee for at least part of this. Like, they filmed. [00:11:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:37] Speaker C: Like jumping and then. And then it's CG after that instead of. Now it's like they're like, oh, no, you'll just. We'll just never have Robert Downey Jr. Ever in an actual suit. He's just gonna wear a morph suit with balls. With ping pong balls stuck all over it in every scene and never even, like, throw a punch. Even like a punch being thrown is going to be totally cg. So I don't know. This was like. You know, this is obviously not like Jurassic park level where they're really mixing in a bunch of. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:11] Speaker C: Practical stuff. But there's still, like. This is still early enough that they were like, we have to do as much as we can and then cg what we can't do physically. You know? Whereas now they're like, oh, we'll just do it all in post. Who cares? [00:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:26] Speaker C: But then slop it up. [00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And they. They do do a lot of physical stuff. They do. [00:12:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:32] Speaker B: It's always. It's always just cut away to cgi. But, like, in in the. In sequence. It's very. Oh, man. This. In light of having mainlined all of Clone wars, this movie is so much better, Johnny. [00:12:46] Speaker C: I believe that. [00:12:47] Speaker B: I. I think. I think if you like this movie in any way, shape or form, you're gonna love Clone. Clone Wars. [00:12:54] Speaker C: This is the new CG1, right? Not the. Not the Gindy Tartakovsky one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, they're like, un. Unwatch un. Impossible to find and watch Gindy Tartakovsky. Yeah, no, not that so much. [00:13:05] Speaker A: They added it back to Disney plus. [00:13:07] Speaker C: Oh, no way. It's on Disney plus again. Oh, man. I might watch all of that. I love that. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Those are really good. [00:13:12] Speaker C: Yeah. The little 15 episodes I used to watch. [00:13:16] Speaker A: Definitely. Check it out, David. [00:13:17] Speaker C: They're so good. [00:13:18] Speaker B: I know I should. But, yeah, like. Oh, man. Like, all the. All the. The. The beats that they hit really hard in Clone wars made me. Made me tear up. I actually. I actually cried during order 66. [00:13:33] Speaker A: Because those are your friends. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Because those. Those were my friends. Like, I knew. I knew all of them. I had been on adventures with them. [00:13:39] Speaker A: And I cried twice in this movie. I cried when it said Star Wars. [00:13:43] Speaker B: All right? [00:13:45] Speaker A: And then. I don't know why, but, like, when Anakin said, it's the happiest day of his life and he, like, saw Padme. [00:13:54] Speaker C: This is the happiest day. [00:13:56] Speaker A: You're laughing at me? [00:13:58] Speaker C: Laughing a little bit at that. At you crying at that moment. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I was like. [00:14:02] Speaker A: I was, like, bawling. [00:14:03] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. No, I get it. Like, teared up. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Emotional delivery ever. [00:14:08] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, exactly. I got teared up just at some of the. Yeah. Some of this. The big sequences and, like, the music. [00:14:17] Speaker A: I mean. [00:14:17] Speaker C: Yeah, the music is. Dude, John Williams is just going ape for 30 years. I think I got. I think I teared up. Whenever he's, like, alone after, he just Mercs all the Trade Federation guys, which. We should come back to them in a minute. And. And then he's just, like, scowling and, like, crying and, like, his eyes are all fucking crazy, and he's just, like, looking at the. The lava, and it's like. I think it's cut right with, like, when Obi Wan says to Padme, like, I'm so sorry. After, he's like, he's the father, isn't he? I'm so sorry. Yeah. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:57] Speaker A: That was the one part. Tom. Do you know Tom Stopper did an uncredited punch up on this? [00:15:01] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I did know that. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Nice. [00:15:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's probably his line. [00:15:05] Speaker C: I bet that Was his line. I bet that twice the pride, double the fall was not his line, but maybe. [00:15:13] Speaker A: I bet. I bet he did a lot of the Anakin Palpatine talking stuff, because that's. [00:15:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I bet he did a bunch of the Palpatine. I mean, obviously, those are the. He's the best part of this movie. I think that's inarguable. Right? It's like. [00:15:27] Speaker A: It's his movie. [00:15:28] Speaker C: It's his movie, dude. And he's incredible in it. [00:15:32] Speaker A: He's having so much fun. [00:15:33] Speaker C: Eaten, like, just taking a piece of drywall off the set and cutting it up and eating it. And in the best way. Just talk about chewing the scenery. It's so good. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:45] Speaker C: Ham and a half Grana levels of. [00:15:49] Speaker A: Ham to semblance in order so we can remember to talk about everything. I guess we can start with the crawl. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Crawl. Yes. [00:15:57] Speaker C: War. [00:15:58] Speaker A: War. [00:15:58] Speaker C: War. [00:15:59] Speaker A: I love that. [00:15:59] Speaker C: I love that it's. Yeah. Good crawl text. [00:16:02] Speaker A: The funniest part of the crawl that always gets me is it says good. Evil is everywhere. There are heroes on both sides. [00:16:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Like hero. Hero droids. [00:16:14] Speaker C: That's actually awesome. I guess Grievous is a. Is a he. He's not a droid, but he's a. He's a hero on that side. He's a villains. [00:16:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:23] Speaker C: It also makes me think of when Trump was talking about, like, fucking good. [00:16:29] Speaker B: People on both sides. [00:16:30] Speaker C: Good people on both sides for the South Carolina. [00:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Someone should edit that with. With talking about. [00:16:37] Speaker B: I would be. I would be surprised if that didn't already exist, Johnny. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. [00:16:44] Speaker C: Yep. There's the crawl. [00:16:46] Speaker B: I do like how they refer to him as a fiendish droid leader, General Grievous. [00:16:51] Speaker C: And I liked in the 40x that it kind of floated and, like, tilted you with the crawl. I actually really like. [00:16:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That was fun. That was fun. [00:16:58] Speaker C: Really? It was really subtle, but it kind of like, floated you around like you were in space and then sort of, like, leaned you back to see the words go away at the end. I liked that a lot. [00:17:08] Speaker B: And then do you like. Like you were kind of floating in space when. Yeah, when the. The ships came by you. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's that whole opening sequence. [00:17:16] Speaker C: It's so awesome. I love that, like. And Williams just starts with those, like, crazy drums, and that's, like, all you have for the first minute or so. It's just that, like. And then you. Yeah, I mean, that. That shot is like that, like, over. Behind the starf fighters flying, like, through all the battle. I don't know. That's one of the coolest shots in Star wars, right? That's one of the coolest. Like, yeah. Space sequences. I mean, there's not like a. The battle itself is kind of feels like it's everywhere but on our two heroes. But you get the latest version of the Jedi starfighter, which is pretty sick in this. I like that. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. [00:17:58] Speaker C: Jedi kind of halfway between, like, a Thai. Like, it's got the. Very much like TIE Fighter style, window, windshield, whatever. [00:18:09] Speaker B: Kind of like a. Kind of like a proto. A wing. [00:18:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Kind of looks like an A wing. Also, they got the. [00:18:15] Speaker B: They got the jump rings that they. They just connect to. [00:18:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Which is. Yeah. Pullback or a callback from the first one, they sprayed us. [00:18:22] Speaker A: From the second one, rather, they hit us with the. [00:18:24] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Yeah. When they came out of hyperspace later. Yeah. It's so funny. It's just like there was so unnecessary. [00:18:33] Speaker B: There was one that got everybody. Like, the first time they did something like that, and everybody cracked up laughing. [00:18:38] Speaker A: But I forget, was it when they sprayed. When RTD sprayed the oil? [00:18:41] Speaker C: Oh, that was awesome. And it gets great water on us. That was so funny and silly. [00:18:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:46] Speaker C: Oh, man, I Love that. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Excellent R2 work in this. [00:18:50] Speaker A: My boy, he's fun at the beginning. He gets stuff to do. Well, that's the thing that's so funny. Like, you know, they're flying. They get on the ship, they have the buzz droids. The buzz droids are also hilarious droids. [00:18:59] Speaker C: Hilarious and a cool sequel. [00:19:00] Speaker A: They're like. I like how they go. Like, the noises they make. [00:19:04] Speaker C: Yeah, of course. I mean, he loves to make his droids like Looney Tunes, you know? [00:19:09] Speaker A: Well, yeah. They get in the ship, and R2 is trying to get the elevators working and shit. And the two droids notice him. And the funniest part about this is the droids voices are different from episode one and two to episode three. And they sound like toy. They're like. Like in episode one, they're like, check it out, Corporal. We'll cover you. And in this one, they're like, let's go get him. [00:19:30] Speaker C: Yeah, they like gremlin guys or something. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Stupid little astro droid. It's just so funny that, like, these super battle droids that were supposed to be so fearsome in episode two are like these bumbling. [00:19:44] Speaker C: That's the classic line. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like we're supposed to be guarding this hangar. It's like, what's that? It's like, nothing. [00:19:51] Speaker C: No, that is what we're doing. That is your work is to go figure out what. That is. Hilarious. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And then we get the Doku fight that we talked about a little bit. [00:20:01] Speaker B: Rip. Count Dooku. [00:20:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:04] Speaker B: He's his head chopped off hands and then head was. Was played. Was the. If there's always. If there's always only two Sith. He was like a dummy. A dummy trainee of Darth Sidious. [00:20:17] Speaker A: He used him for his political purposes during the war. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:21] Speaker A: And dumped him when he was done with him. [00:20:23] Speaker C: Well. And I mean, I think that you could argue that this moment is actually his biggest purpose, is to make Anakin start down that path. Because he's like, I shouldn't do this. You know, I'm not supposed to kill. We're not supposed to do this. And then do it. You know, Great. The best in McDirement line delivery. Do it. And then he does. And then he kills him. Then it's. And he's like. You know, it's before. He obviously goes and kills Mace and everybody else and all the kids and everything. It's like, this is the first life he's taken out of anger since the Tuscan. Yeah, I love that. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Was that. [00:21:06] Speaker C: It's in this sequence, too, where he. He's like, you told me about what you did on Tatooine. And you hear the, like, faint, like. Yeah, like the faint Tuscan call. And that in this sequence, it blends. [00:21:17] Speaker A: In with, like an explosion. [00:21:18] Speaker C: Yeah. Cool. I like that. Little bit of old Ben Burt, also the real star of all Star Wars. And editing, definitely audio. [00:21:27] Speaker A: Well, it's cool because they don't normally do stuff like that. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Non diegetic other than non diegetic sounds. [00:21:35] Speaker A: First time you see, like, a dream sequence in Star wars, is this. [00:21:38] Speaker C: Is this it? [00:21:39] Speaker A: I guess. Unless you count the cave on Return of the Empire Strikes Back. But that's. [00:21:43] Speaker C: That's more like a. Yeah, that's more like a worst thing. Yeah, I mean, I guess like a force vision, in a way. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Yeah. They are four streams. [00:21:52] Speaker C: They've talked about. [00:21:53] Speaker B: You know, they talk about those a lot in Clone wars, the series. Four streams. Yoda has them, like, every two episodes. [00:22:01] Speaker C: Sure. Yeah. Because, I mean, I guess there's a dream off screen in Phantom Menace because he. He comes. He's like. Talks about being. He's like. That's like. When they're on the ship, he has a bad dream about his mom or something. But it's not shown. It's not visualized like this, so. [00:22:18] Speaker A: And Episode two He has the dream. [00:22:19] Speaker C: About his mom, episode two. Yeah, he's got dreams about his mom that he's referencing in this, but once again, they're not visualized at all. Right. [00:22:26] Speaker A: Yeah, this one is, though. [00:22:27] Speaker C: Yeah, he just is, like, in bed, like. Oh, yeah. [00:22:29] Speaker A: He's just sitting there like. [00:22:34] Speaker C: Yeah, but curb your enthusiasm. With Jeff and Susie too. Too crammed. He's just trying to get out of going. [00:22:42] Speaker B: No, we get. [00:22:44] Speaker C: What else happens then. We get the cool. [00:22:46] Speaker B: We get the classic. General Grievous abandoned ship. Because that's what he does all the time as he abandons the ship. [00:22:53] Speaker C: Time to abandon. Great whiplash. Yeah, totally. I like that. That battle droid that, like, brings him up there's, like, you're welcome. You're welcome for bringing these guys up. [00:23:11] Speaker B: I'm surprised General Grievous didn't put him in his place right there. And. [00:23:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:16] Speaker B: With his. But I guess he's. He's hiding his. [00:23:18] Speaker C: His lightsaber collection for a cool reveal later. [00:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:23] Speaker A: Oh, the one thing I'll. Fuck. I forgot to mention the beginning is because there was that brief period of time when Disney didn't own Fox, so we would have it without the Fox fanfare. But now they own Fox, they put it back in. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Well, that's good. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:23:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. You gotta have the Fox fanfare. [00:23:39] Speaker C: Gotta have the Fox fanfare. Thank God that Disney owns everything. Thank God they own Fox and abc. Two of three major networks in the country. Yeah, I guess. Four. You love to see it on cbs. [00:23:57] Speaker B: Failing cbs, man. CBS is hanging in there somehow. [00:24:03] Speaker C: I mean, they're still. Because people are living. Old people are still alive. So that's why. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Well, I mean, Paramount owns it too, and they gotta. They gotta diversify in some way, I guess. [00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah, I like that there was the fanfare, but yeah. They meet Grievous on the bridge and he abandoned ship and they, like, crash landed. [00:24:24] Speaker B: They crash. Half a. [00:24:25] Speaker C: Such a cool half of class. They, like, land half a ship. Like, I think we lost. I like whenever it, like, breaks up and he's like, I think we lost something funny. I mean, like, it's intentionally funny. Yeah, it's like. It's. It. That's an awesome sequence. I love that. I love the, like, little fire ships that come down and, like, spray water on them, like, while they're landing. He's like, we'll take you in. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:47] Speaker C: Commander Cody's Commander Caleb or something. Like one of. Another C word clone guy. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Yeah, the. That whole sequence is just fun. That whole like, opening 15, 20 minutes. Just because you get to see them being Jedi, see them working together. [00:25:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:03] Speaker A: It feels like the most Star wars. [00:25:05] Speaker C: Stuff in this movie. [00:25:07] Speaker A: In this movie and in maybe the prequels, like, just like classic Star Wars. Just like, woohoo. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:12] Speaker A: But it's a lot of fun. And Ewan McGregor's, I feel like. Like someone was like, yo, you kind of did a shitty job and Attack of the Clones or something. Because, like, he. [00:25:20] Speaker C: For that movie. Yeah. [00:25:21] Speaker A: He stepped it up in this one. [00:25:22] Speaker C: He also has so little to do in Attack of the Clones, and even more than in this one, he is never talking to a real person, filming. He's never on a set, and he's never talking to a real person in the second one. Yeah, he's on camino for like 17 hours of that movie. [00:25:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:43] Speaker C: Until the very end and he comes alive and they're like, good job. You know, whenever they come to rescue him. And like, from then, I guess he has one conversation with Christopher Lee when he's in that, like, stupid, like, floating. That floating, like, jail cell thing, which is pretty. I mean, I know we're not talking about Attack of Clones, but we can. That's kind of goobery, I think. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:05] Speaker C: Floating thing is like, why, man? Why just put him in a cage? You're on a bug planet, they have this thing here. Just put them on a cage. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, there's also, like. Because the. The turn. The. The turn of Anakin into Darth Vader is such an emotional thing that I. I don't think Ian McGregor would have had to have brought. He would have had to have brought the goods or else it wouldn't have done so well. Because he does. Yeah, he carries a lot of emotion in the end of this. [00:26:39] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. [00:26:41] Speaker B: Episode. [00:26:42] Speaker C: And I think, you know, once we get a little further, I've got some, like, watching at this time. I feel like I noticed a little more of stuff kind of coming out of left field that you really have to do. You kind of really have to give the movie the benefit of the doubt on knowing that it's gonna. That he's gonna be Darth Vader. Whereas, like, some of that stuff, like, I mean, I guess might as well just talk about it. We'll go back and we'll stay in order. But. Yeah, but, you know, like, both from, like, before that when Padme's like, I don't know. I think sometimes we're the bad guys. And you're like. Because. Kind of like, I kind of agree with Anakin he's like, where's this coming from? Because she has never been anything but like a good senator who's trying to do good for her planet, you know. And then she's like, I don't know, maybe we're the bad guys. And it's like, well, what is like, I believe that you would believe that and start to think that. But like it doesn't give us any sort of like road, like road map to why she might, you know, like even something of like, like a little hint about some atrocity that the Republic like, you know, maybe the Jedi killed like a ton of people once, you know, and they, they had to do it because they were defending like another colony of people or something. But they just like went ham and like, you know, were very violent and killed a bunch of people or this clone troopers were or something. That makes her start to have those doubts and I think would help with setting up Palpatine as being this like power hungry guy. Other than the fact that we just know that he's Palpatine. You know what I mean? That doesn't do a lot of great like laying groundwork for that kind of stuff. But you know. [00:28:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's also, I mean it also for having just the movies and because a lot of this is in Clone wars too. They had to, they had to save it first for, for future. [00:28:39] Speaker C: But here's the thing, David, is that show did not exist when this movie came. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. That's the problem. [00:28:45] Speaker C: But Danny Tartakovsky one did and it doesn't really like some stuff it sets up, it helps give, helps make you care more about some of these characters, like, you know, especially the Plo Koons of the world. But yeah, yeah, I don't know, but especially like, I don't know. [00:29:04] Speaker B: But it's actually for, for, for Senator Padme. It's like the last, the last thing we see here actually doing before this movie is being, you know, conflicted about a clone army. And so I think we're just supposed to assume that she has fostered that between the two films. [00:29:23] Speaker C: Sure, I guess. Yeah. [00:29:25] Speaker A: Well, the only thing that solves all this is if you own the dvd. There's an entire deleted subplot where this stuff happens and Padme creates the Rebel Alliance. Yeah, there's an entire deleted thing. Yeah, that's why Padme has nothing to do in this movie. [00:29:39] Speaker C: Yeah, and that's like one of the biggest, one of the biggest appointments appointments is that she is just in her apartment the entire movie yeah. Except for delivering the one line at the Senate of this is how democracy dies. The thunderous applause. You know. [00:29:54] Speaker A: Right. Other than that in the other two. [00:29:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. Yeah. It's a bummer. [00:29:59] Speaker A: She's arguably the protagonist of episode one. [00:30:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:05] Speaker A: @ least your main character. [00:30:06] Speaker C: Certainly more so than Anakin. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:10] Speaker C: I could. You could say it's either her or Qui Gon or Ewan, but yeah, it. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Sucks that she has nothing to do and that it's true that, like, I wish they would have gone a little bit more into the stuff the Republican doing. [00:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:23] Speaker C: But what else I was going to say is that the other thing about these and it's. This is true. This is especially true for the prequels is that they are truly. They are like space operas in the biggest form where it is so about just like some of its broad stroke, like, very tone, you know, focused as opposed to like nitty gritty details like we're talking about now because we're nerd. But, you know, so much of it, especially at the end, is just like, you know, huge personality, like good versus evil, betrayal versus love versus, you know, distrust versus jealousy. And it's just these big. And it's like they're literally floating above lava fighting. You know what I mean? Like, how much nuance do we need after a certain point is like, let's get to this point. He's gonna get burned alive. We're gonna get Darth Vader and roll credits, you know, so it's. It's all stupid, nitpicky, 20 years after the. After the fact. But I don't know. [00:31:29] Speaker B: I mean, with. [00:31:30] Speaker C: I wish I may had more to do as the biggest one. [00:31:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Especially with. With andor happening now. It's very. It's very obvious that the prequels are story like plot, get the plot out of the way and then character stuff can happen later. So, yeah, there's very. There's very little character work in this. And that's the one detriment to it as it's trying to get to. It's like, hey, we're making. We're making a. An analogy an. An. An analogy story here. [00:31:59] Speaker C: Sure. [00:31:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:02] Speaker B: And you'll. You. You'll learn about the characters later. You'll learn about the characters. Just get there. [00:32:05] Speaker C: Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Watch the other movies. [00:32:09] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I'm speaking of Padme. We get her first appearance here after they have the crash landing. He likes. They have like a little. They come and greet the Senators and greet the Jedi. And, like, you get your one jar Jar line at this scene where he says, excuse me. Excuse me. [00:32:23] Speaker C: Yeah. He doesn't even squeeze me. He says, excuse me. [00:32:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Oh, man. He doesn't say, excuse me. [00:32:29] Speaker C: He doesn't. He says, excuse me. [00:32:31] Speaker B: Maybe he was just tired. He's been, you know, his morning munching yet. [00:32:35] Speaker C: I was gonna say it's just because he's. He's a bombad senator now, so he's like, you know, he's had to take some diction classes and go back to finishing school for Gungans and. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And she's just hanging out in the shadows. And so Anakin's like, hold on, I have to go make a sneaky rendezvous over here. [00:32:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:58] Speaker A: So one thing I notice is, like, so many of these lines have the same cadence. Like, he's like, we must find General Grievous. And this is the line I'm talking about. He's like, then we will make that our first priority. Like, everyone says a line like. Like Yoda's like, misread the prophecy was like, everyone has, like, a line that just. I don't know what is about that cadence, but, like, what's up with that? [00:33:17] Speaker C: Especially, like, those scenes. Like, Mace Windu always responds with, like, a. Like he has until it's like a Sith Lord, except. [00:33:29] Speaker A: Oh, my God, dude. It's so funny when he does that. He's so, like, nonchalant. He's just like a Sith Lord. [00:33:35] Speaker C: His face, he looks like he's like, about. He looks so pissed. He looks pissed in a way that only Sam Jackson can look pissed, where it's like he's not giving very much out in his face, but, like, there's. His eyes are about to shoot out of his head. Sith Lord. Yeah, stuff. [00:33:52] Speaker B: I mean, it was good. [00:33:53] Speaker A: You get a lot of the talky stuff. [00:33:55] Speaker B: I said it was good seeing Bail Organa, like, always. I like a good Bail Organa. [00:34:00] Speaker A: I mean, this is his main movie. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because. Yeah. He just kind of like, barely shows up in the previous ones, doesn't he? [00:34:08] Speaker C: We've always wanted a little girl. [00:34:13] Speaker A: He's just like. He's so funny. Like, the way he speaks. We're pro Smiths, though, right? [00:34:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. We love a Jimmy Smith. [00:34:20] Speaker A: Anytime they can show in new places because they couldn't get. Jimmy Smith's back. You know who plays him in Andor season two? [00:34:27] Speaker B: No, I haven't. I haven't gotten there yet. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Oh, so sorry. I don't know Benjamin Bratt. [00:34:34] Speaker C: Okay, so it's like instead of the. [00:34:36] Speaker A: NYPD Blue guy, we got the. [00:34:38] Speaker C: The. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:40] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. What was, what was his show on? [00:34:42] Speaker A: He was on Law and Order. [00:34:43] Speaker C: Law and Order. Of course. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. It's like he's the other Jimmy smith of the 90s. He was like a little more of a sex symbol because he was in the several. Like, he's in Miss Congeniality. He's in a lot of rom coms. [00:34:57] Speaker B: He's got a little bit more of an edge too. [00:34:59] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess he's. [00:35:01] Speaker A: He's more, you know, we should be thankful for. Didn't try to CG his fucking head on somebody. [00:35:06] Speaker C: Well, I mean, and Smith's alive, so he'd probably have something to say about that. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:35:12] Speaker A: But I guess they couldn't get him for scheduling reasons. [00:35:14] Speaker C: Sure. [00:35:15] Speaker B: I mean, that means he's getting work and that's. That's really all that matters. Really. All that matters. [00:35:22] Speaker C: So they greggling reasons. Get out of here. What does that even mean? Disney? What, you can't wait like, two weeks to shoot these? Like, what are you shooting these all in order? Exactly. Get out of here. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Yeah. There's got to be some other reason. I think they probably didn't pay. [00:35:38] Speaker C: I'm sure he wanted more money. And they're like, nah. [00:35:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:42] Speaker C: He's like, this is my fifth time playing this part. Right. And they're like, well, not anymore. [00:35:46] Speaker B: They spent. They spent all their money on Forest Whitaker. [00:35:50] Speaker A: I believe it. [00:35:50] Speaker C: Believe it. Oscar brings the goods, though. [00:35:54] Speaker B: He brings the goods. [00:35:56] Speaker C: He's even in video games, man. He's great in those two. [00:35:59] Speaker B: I think. I think that's because they know that if they try to have anybody else play Saw Guerrero, it just wouldn't work. It needs whatever sort of magical energy that he has for that character to work. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Work. [00:36:12] Speaker C: Yeah. Here's the thing. It barely works with it being Forest Winter. [00:36:16] Speaker A: Rogue One is a confusing character. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:36:22] Speaker C: Such a confusing character. Great. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Well, no. [00:36:29] Speaker C: You know what, though? Great. In Jedi Outcast. One of the coolest themes in that. Or not Jedi Outcast. Jedi. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Just Jedi. [00:36:38] Speaker C: It's got a subtitle for sure. [00:36:40] Speaker A: The second one does Survivor, but Survivors. Star Wars Jedi. Is he in the second one or the first one? [00:36:47] Speaker C: He's in the first one. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:49] Speaker C: On the Kashyyyk part. It's great. Great sequence of a great game. Can't wait for the third one. [00:36:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't wait for that. Well, guess what? We're waiting for. Because we found out today. [00:37:01] Speaker C: Dave, I was gonna say. Should we have some video game chat in here? [00:37:03] Speaker A: What do we have? We do breaking news. And this is gonna come out in a few days. So we. Relevant news. Grand Theft Auto 6 is delayed from this fall to May 2026, over a year from now. [00:37:14] Speaker B: I. I am shocked, Johnny. [00:37:17] Speaker C: I know. Shocked. [00:37:18] Speaker B: I am shocked because it's hilarious. [00:37:21] Speaker A: They announced the date because, like that all those programmers like, God damn it. [00:37:25] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. [00:37:27] Speaker B: That's one of the few. Few video game things I know is that there's the. The joke of, you know, we get real dire wolves, but before George R.R. martin finishes the books. Right. And then there's also. [00:37:38] Speaker C: I'm actually gonna steal a car before we get. [00:37:40] Speaker B: Yeah, we get. We get X before Grand Theft Auto 6. [00:37:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:47] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I'm sure Nintendo's thrilled. [00:37:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:37:50] Speaker B: They're. [00:37:50] Speaker A: They're gonna. [00:37:51] Speaker C: They're gonna sweep the. Sweep the fall. The last. The last half of the year. They all. With the Switch 2. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they got it. [00:37:58] Speaker C: Yeah. And then. I mean. And God only knows if they're gonna have a $90 Mario Kart game. Like, what. How much will grand theft auto 6 get cost? [00:38:06] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:38:08] Speaker C: About 100 bucks for the base edition, which is so crazy. And then online will, of course, be a monthly fee. And then there'll be an expansion pack that comes out that'll be $40. And then they'll. They'll never put it on sale. And. Yeah, it'll hit Game Pass in 2031. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:30] Speaker C: Cool. [00:38:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:31] Speaker A: I mean, it's gonna be. [00:38:31] Speaker C: You can probably pay 200 to play it one day early and get like. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Right. [00:38:37] Speaker C: A different T shirt. [00:38:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:39] Speaker C: In the game. That's what, like, you know, special edition is now. It's all virtual. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:46] Speaker C: Yeah. Not great, folks. [00:38:49] Speaker B: Do you. Did either. [00:38:50] Speaker A: You ever play the Revenge of the Sith game? [00:38:52] Speaker B: No. [00:38:53] Speaker C: No, I don't think I did. It was trash. [00:38:58] Speaker A: So this one was more like. It was trying to be like those Lord of the Rings games. Kind of hack and slash. [00:39:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:39:03] Speaker A: RPGs kind of ish. It was really fun. [00:39:07] Speaker C: Kind of like it was hilarious because. [00:39:10] Speaker A: It came out a month before the movie and had, like, spoiled the movie completely. [00:39:14] Speaker C: I mean, doesn't Return of the Jedi kind of spoil this movie completely? Except for, I don't know, nothing like, that's it. Except for Padme Dying, but not really. That's mentioned in. [00:39:26] Speaker A: Well, there just wasn't spoiler culture as much then. [00:39:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:29] Speaker A: Every book would come out like two or three weeks before the movie. [00:39:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Like the novelizations, you mean? [00:39:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:39:35] Speaker A: Yeah, the novelizations will come out like two or three weeks before the movie. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I remember around this time this came out, I think, like several. Maybe a month or more before the movie was the. I read the novelization of the film Titan ae, and loved the book. And then I liked the movie, too. I've always been a Don Bluth fan. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:57] Speaker C: But I remember being disappointed in the movie because it didn't have as much, like, interesting, crunchy, weird backstory on the, like, evil alien monsters that were the bad guys in the movie. [00:40:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. My dad used to do that. My dad used to very rarely see a movie in the theater that he. [00:40:15] Speaker C: Hadn'T already read the novel read the novelization of. That's just like, doesn't exist anymore. Right. You have to write a script before you edited the movie to be able to do that. And they just don't do that now. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Right. Like, the Rise of Skywalker book was the first one that came out like six months after the movie. [00:40:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:33] Speaker A: I wonder why. [00:40:34] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, I wonder. [00:40:35] Speaker A: No, they. They started doing again, but they're like, doing them for like, classic horror movies. Like, I Remember My Bloody Valentine just got a novel adaptation. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:40:45] Speaker A: And a couple other, like, old horror movies have gotten a couple adaptations. It's like phenomenal movie kind of releases. [00:40:51] Speaker C: Sure. [00:40:52] Speaker A: You know, in the style of the old paperbacks. Those like, you know, 200 page with the. [00:40:57] Speaker B: The section of pictures in the middle. [00:40:59] Speaker C: Gas station paperbacks. What I always think of them as. [00:41:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it's always got to have the pictures in the middle. [00:41:04] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. The pictures in the middle. I like glossy pages that. [00:41:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:07] Speaker C: Kind of make the book fall apart, though. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Because they're so much thicker and they just don't hold on to the glue. I would, I would. I would love to play like a. Like an RPG battlefield game based on like, Star Wars. Star Wars Fights. Johnny. That sounds awesome. I should probably watch that or play that game sometime. [00:41:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It was, it was good. It was like. If you like. [00:41:30] Speaker C: Did you have it on, like, PC? [00:41:32] Speaker A: No, it was on Xbox. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Oh, interesting. [00:41:35] Speaker C: Original Xbox PS2. [00:41:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like a hack and slash semi RPG. Like you leveled up and stuff. [00:41:42] Speaker B: I was thinking of like a. Like a command and conquer style rpg. [00:41:46] Speaker C: No, that exists. So I used to have that. It's. Oh, I can't remember what it was called now. One of them might have just been called. One of them's called Battlegrounds Battlegrounds, as opposed to battle field. Field, yeah. [00:41:59] Speaker A: Or front. [00:41:59] Speaker C: Battlefront. Star Wars Battlefront. Real Wars Battlefield. Command and Conquer Battle ground. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Battlegrounds. [00:42:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I had one of those and those. I. I used to love the Red Alert and Command and Conquer series and I had one of the. One of the Star wars ones and really loved it. That's cool to play as the Gungans. And that was like your class and it was. I think you had to. If anybody's played Starcraft the Zerg, you have to make, like, the creep or whatever. Like the. You can only build if you've, like grown the mossy, grossy stuff on the ground. And I think the Gungans had a similar mechanic. Or maybe it wasn't the Gungans, but I think it was. [00:42:38] Speaker B: It seems. It seems likely that the Gungans would need like a. Like a swamp or something to grow. [00:42:45] Speaker C: Oh, the Gungan erasure in this movie. Overall. [00:42:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:49] Speaker A: Yeah. There just. Were there any other Gungans at Padme's funeral? Just Jar Jar. No. Boss Nas is there. [00:42:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:57] Speaker A: You love Boss. [00:42:58] Speaker C: Love Boss Nas. Good guy. [00:43:02] Speaker A: He's a good guy. Yeah. This section of the movie is just like the part we were talking about where, like, he's just chit chatting. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:08] Speaker A: Back and forth. It's like Anakin going around having a conversation. One on one conversations with like five characters. [00:43:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:14] Speaker A: Like, talks to Padme, talks to Obi. [00:43:16] Speaker C: Wan, goes and talks to Yoda, goes and talks to Sheev, then goes and says exactly what she said to Mace Windu. And then exactly what Mace Windu talks about what Mace Windu said to Obi Wan. And that happens for like 40 minutes. [00:43:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:33] Speaker A: Talks to Yoda. [00:43:34] Speaker C: Talks to Yoda, talks to Palpatine. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Then about 40. You're almost exactly right, because at 40 minutes is when we get the Palpatine. The famous Palpatine Darth Plagueis speech. [00:43:50] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. And that weird circus opera thing they're at. I love that. [00:43:54] Speaker B: Yeah, the. The Mon Calamari opera. [00:43:56] Speaker C: Yeah. It's sick. [00:43:58] Speaker B: Oh, man. Love them on calamari. [00:44:01] Speaker A: Purposely designed to represent, like an egg and a sperm and ovaries when he's talking about creating life. So. [00:44:07] Speaker C: Interesting. Interesting. [00:44:09] Speaker A: If you look for it, they definitely make them. [00:44:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it looks like that for sure. They're like swimming around and. [00:44:14] Speaker A: To create life. [00:44:17] Speaker C: Not from Jedi. [00:44:20] Speaker A: He definitely created Anakin, right? [00:44:23] Speaker C: Yeah, probably right. I mean, is that kind of what they're implying here? Is that Plagueis or. Or in this case, Palpatine? Like. [00:44:30] Speaker B: Well, no, Not Plagueis or Palpatine. Wouldn't be Plagueis because he. [00:44:34] Speaker A: No, he worked with. [00:44:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Because he. [00:44:36] Speaker B: He. As he intimates later. [00:44:39] Speaker C: Or Palpatine said he did. [00:44:40] Speaker B: He done killed Plagueis. [00:44:42] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:44:43] Speaker A: So an old canon. Yes. They work together. They literally, like, shot force energy into the universe and they, like, I think we did something, but they could never find the person. And then I don't know what the new canon answer is. [00:44:57] Speaker C: I'm sure it's inscrutable. Whatever. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it makes so much sense. Definitely. [00:45:04] Speaker C: It's completely inscrutable, whatever it is. They're like, no, no, that's too complicated. What actually happened is there's a whole planet of Palpatine clones, but there's other people there, too, who are like a cult or something. Unclear. We're not going to worry about them much. They're just in the background. [00:45:23] Speaker B: I don't know. Whatever. It's just. It's just a way to get the Cenobites in there. [00:45:29] Speaker C: I'm fine with that. More Cenobites in film. More Cenobites than cinema. [00:45:34] Speaker B: Every. Every film should have one Cenobite in it. One cinnabite specific to the sin that is happening in that film. [00:45:40] Speaker C: There you go. So then what happens? Obi Wan gets sent. Well, first Yoda goes to the Wookiees because she has a good relationship with them. [00:45:48] Speaker A: He says, good relations with the Wookies have I. Which is hilarious. It's like, what are you gonna do with the Wookies, man? You got some parties with them. [00:45:55] Speaker B: I mean, he's. He's a little guy. He likes hanging out with people bigger than him. [00:45:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Right on their back. [00:46:00] Speaker C: What's her name? Maz Kanata. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I like that Wookie. [00:46:05] Speaker C: And I like that Wookie. Yeah. I was gonna say maybe it's like that. There's just like. Some Wookies really get down with, like, tiny other animals or alien species like Yoda. And he's like, maybe he's gotta. Maybe he's got a. [00:46:19] Speaker B: Or maybe it's. [00:46:20] Speaker C: It's playing a sexy Wookie on. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Maybe it's like a. Maybe it's like a Klingon thing where they're. They're a very insular group. But if you can. If you can. [00:46:28] Speaker C: If you can crack that egg, they're like. [00:46:30] Speaker B: If you can get in, you What? [00:46:32] Speaker C: Everything else we see with Wookies, I think. [00:46:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:35] Speaker C: Like, Han and Chewie are besties, you know, forever. [00:46:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:40] Speaker A: BFFs. [00:46:41] Speaker C: BFFs. Life debt. Yeah. So Yoda goes to Kashyyyk. Obi Wan goes to. What's the name of that planet? [00:46:50] Speaker A: Udapow. [00:46:51] Speaker C: Udapow. To see if they can find Grievous and like immediately finds him. They're like. He lands and they're like, yeah, they're here. Don't talk about it. There are 10 levels down. You should get the fuck out of here. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah. And then he. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. And that is famous actor. The guy who plays Tion. Midon, I believe his name is the. And this is all from memory. Unfortunately for me. He is the like, Grand Vizier of Udapower. I don't remember what he is, but he is played by Bruce Spence, who is one of the highest grossing actors of all time. Because he was in two Mad Maxes. Lord of the Rings. He was the Mouth of Sauron. [00:47:35] Speaker C: Yep. [00:47:35] Speaker A: In the Matrix, he was the trained man. [00:47:37] Speaker B: All right. [00:47:38] Speaker A: And he was in like some other. He was in Finding Nemo. That was the other one. He's one of the sharks. [00:47:42] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:47:42] Speaker A: And so like, there was one year where he was like the highest grossing actor of the year. The year that Return of the King came out. [00:47:47] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:47:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:48] Speaker C: I mean, he's in a ton of stuff too. He's got a great face. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Yeah. He's just like the classic Australian. Like. [00:47:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:55] Speaker A: If you're filming a movie Australia, get Bruce Spence. [00:47:58] Speaker C: Why not? [00:47:59] Speaker A: Because this was filmed in Australia. [00:48:00] Speaker C: Alive. Yeah. He is 79. Good for you, dude. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Nice. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Because this in episode two were both filmed in Australia. [00:48:07] Speaker C: And Ace and Churro. When nature calls. Speaking of Australia. Oh, wow. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Australia. [00:48:13] Speaker C: I don't know if it was. I don't think it was filmed in Australia. But he's a. He plays an Australian, like, poacher guy. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Ah, okay. [00:48:19] Speaker C: And Dark City. A precursor to the Matrix. [00:48:23] Speaker A: Yeah. He's a tall, gangly, scary looking guy. Yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah, Grievous is here. There's like battle droids. 10th level. [00:48:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Movie is surprisingly hard to talk about. [00:48:35] Speaker A: What do you mean? [00:48:36] Speaker B: Like, like it's just a whole bunch of things to get us from episode two to episode four. And that's kind of all. It's just like links in a chain. It's like this and then this and then this and then this and this and that's. [00:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it kind of has that feeling. Like the scenes are very. That's choppy. [00:48:51] Speaker B: That was the, like the number one thing I remember talking about after. After seeing it the first time was it's like it had that problem where you knew where it needed to end up and it knew where it needed to end up. It's just, you know, when is it going to get there? Doesn't really hold a lot of tension for when it's going to get there. It's just like, okay, we got to get there. This lizard that Obi Wan is, is riding around on. It's pretty dope. [00:49:16] Speaker C: Boga Boga. I wish I could do that sound. It's really hard. [00:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah, we learned that pretty much goes. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Right into the grievous fight. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Because he was trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku and then he's a helicopter man and around. [00:49:36] Speaker C: It's pretty good stuff. [00:49:38] Speaker A: These are only a second incident. Incident, incident or instance, I mean, of a non Jedi wielding a lightsaber. Because Han Solo used it in episode six five to cut open the tauntaun. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Wow. [00:49:53] Speaker B: I thought they smelled bad on the outside. [00:49:56] Speaker A: I like how the strategy just like spin his arms around like a helicopter too. He's just like, yeah, at first he should totally be able to kill Obi Wan. If you walked a little faster, he could have killed him. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:07] Speaker C: Pretty cool fight. Obi Wan owns him pretty quick though. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:12] Speaker A: He only has the four sabers out for like a minute. [00:50:14] Speaker C: Yeah, it's really short. I forgot how short it was. And then they're like, nope, okay. And then he says, time to abandon fight. He gets on his sick one wheeled four legged motorcycle thing. [00:50:26] Speaker A: Yeah, his wheel bike. [00:50:28] Speaker C: Wheel bike is pretty tight. Great sound design again. [00:50:31] Speaker B: Looks a lot like like those little balls from the, the recent Jurassic park films. [00:50:36] Speaker A: Kind of does. [00:50:37] Speaker B: Sure. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Similar. [00:50:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:39] Speaker A: I like that he shoots him at the end and his eyeballs catch on fire. [00:50:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it's so sick. He like shoots him in the, in the, like the, the organic parts that are left. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:50] Speaker C: Burns. And I like how he's like, what is, what is that we want to say? He like throws the gut. The blaster away and he's like barbaric. [00:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:56] Speaker A: So uncivilized. [00:50:57] Speaker C: Oh, uncivilized. That's what it is. And then I was thinking about. Actually this is a thought I had a couple times during this movie. So yeah, that body's just like burning on the ground there and he walks away and he goes back to talk to like the clone troopers who have taken over and you know, liberated Udapow or whatever. And then has. Is it around this time that Palpatine has revealed himself and they go to, they go to get him. [00:51:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So while the fight's going on is where it starts To Anakin starts to talk to Palpatine a little bit, and he does. [00:51:34] Speaker C: Palpatine kind of reveals himself. [00:51:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it's actually intercut. Yeah, it's intercut. [00:51:39] Speaker C: Yeah, you have like the lightsaber fight and then you have Palpatine and Anakin and we go back to Grievous motorcycle chase. And then that's when Anakin goes to. [00:51:48] Speaker B: To Windy. [00:51:49] Speaker C: That's when we get a Sith lord from Windu and then they go to arrest him and obviously it goes tits up immediately. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Very bad. [00:51:58] Speaker A: They all just get stabbed. [00:52:00] Speaker C: Yeah. Dude. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Pathetic spin. He does his power spin. [00:52:04] Speaker C: Yeah. It's pretty cool, though. [00:52:08] Speaker B: Ultimate. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Yeah. He kills second. [00:52:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:13] Speaker B: Oh, everybody cheered for Kit Fisto. [00:52:15] Speaker C: Rip. [00:52:16] Speaker B: That is one thing that happened. [00:52:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Did they really? [00:52:19] Speaker B: Yeah. When he came on screen, like, everybody. Did you not hear people clapping for Kit Fisto? [00:52:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I did, remember? [00:52:25] Speaker A: Oh, that's hilarious. [00:52:26] Speaker C: I clapped for Kit Fisto too. [00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:30] Speaker A: I was just sucked into the movie, I guess. [00:52:33] Speaker C: I love Palpatine's like, yeah. Growls and so weak. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Can't hold on any longer. [00:52:41] Speaker C: Oh, my God, any longer. He's so good. [00:52:44] Speaker B: They. They definitely should have used the ultimate power for a battery commercial. [00:52:51] Speaker C: Yeah, they should have for Durancell. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Oh, please, I'm too weak. [00:52:55] Speaker C: Please, I'm too weak. So good. Then we got full on full Palpatine roast based Palpatine. After he gets his lighting blasted back at him from Mace Windu and then Mace window goes flying. [00:53:13] Speaker A: He seems so unconcerned that happened to him. He's like, whatever. [00:53:16] Speaker C: Yeah, totally Palpatine, you mean? Yeah, yeah. [00:53:20] Speaker A: He's just like, this is me now. [00:53:21] Speaker C: This has left me disfigured and deformed, but my resolve has never been stronger. Yeah. [00:53:30] Speaker A: I've either said I'd be like, when did he turn into like a universal monster? [00:53:33] Speaker C: Yeah. What the. [00:53:34] Speaker A: All of a sudden, this. This timid senator is like, screaming. [00:53:38] Speaker C: But also, I mean, like, you know, if you were trying to convince your political allies and maybe opponents that the Jedi were trying to take over, and then they come and try to kill you and make you into this freak. Yeah. You might. It might be a good, good selling point for your ambitions there, I think. You know, if you're not. If you don't. If you already are weirded out by these celibate, culty old Jedi magic miseries and robes, who. You're like, why do these guys wield so much power in this society? And then they try to kill the head of the Senate, you know, a supposedly democratic body and he survives, you know. Yeah, you might be. You might. It might be an easy sell after that to. To have unlimited political power as well as unlimited lightning. As well as unlimited lightning. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:35] Speaker B: And then very, very shortly after the reveal, we get the execution of the. Not quite as evil as order 666, but we need to make sure there's more than just six. Six orders. Yes, order 66. [00:54:52] Speaker A: The order 66. [00:54:53] Speaker B: So. So brand. [00:54:54] Speaker C: Yeah, you also. We kind of skipped two. We also, right before this, get the name Darth Vader, which it feels like. I like that. McDireman's like, Lord Vader. Yeah, sure, let's go with that. Pulls it out his ass. I love it. [00:55:12] Speaker B: So there's a. There's a building downtown, Brand, that. That George Lucas owns two floors of, and the first floor that he owned. Guess what floor was the first floor of this building he owned? [00:55:25] Speaker C: 66. [00:55:26] Speaker B: 66. That's 66 and 67. [00:55:29] Speaker C: I love that. Yeah, 67 is like my. Kind of one of my favorite numbers, so. Love that it's 66, though. That's hilarious. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Yeah, real funny. But, yeah, so order 66 gets inactivated. And Cody just like, without blinking an eye, doesn't even say good. Doesn't even say good shoulders. Soldiers follow orders. Just. Is like, okay. Fucking fire. [00:55:51] Speaker C: Yeah, just like, kill. Kill Obi Wan Kenobi, please. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Man. [00:55:55] Speaker C: I like that. And I don't know, I mean, I've obviously seen this movie hundreds of times, but I like that when Anakin decides to go and like, attacks Mace Windu that we cut to Yoda. Like, like, obviously we have the more famous sequence where Yoda is like, you know, like, drops his cane and falls over because of all the Jedi being massacred. But I like that, like, Yoda can even sense that, like, Anakin just turned before that and like that the pain that it's causing him at that point, before order 66 even happens. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Yeah, that's why. That's why. That's why Yoda is the oldest and widest wisest of the Jedi Council. [00:56:43] Speaker C: He ain't. [00:56:44] Speaker A: He's green, David. [00:56:44] Speaker B: He's green. I meant to say wisest, not whitest. [00:56:48] Speaker C: He's kind of cream colored in the old ones, but that's. That's color correction, my little green friend. [00:56:57] Speaker B: He's also. He's also much more of a kook in the. [00:57:00] Speaker C: Sure, he's got 40 years of solitude or 20 years of solitude to get as kooky as he wants. Eating snakes in the bog. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Oh, man, he was looking for snacks. It's like, give me this. Give me these snacks. [00:57:13] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:57:14] Speaker B: Oh, man. Oh, man. And then order 66 happens. And David cried because, oh, we go to all these fantastic planets that your. [00:57:22] Speaker C: Chairs are flipping us around because Plo Koon's dying. [00:57:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Secure die. She's the sexy Twilight one. [00:57:31] Speaker B: Oh, man. It's. It's like. It's so. It's so horrible that they have to hide it underneath one of those big, big leaves. [00:57:41] Speaker C: I like that Yoda. Like, Yoda just. Yeah. Gets those two guys. And. And Tarful and Chewbacca. Chewbacca are both like, holy. [00:57:53] Speaker B: Let's go. [00:57:54] Speaker A: Let's get the out of here. [00:57:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:57] Speaker C: Tarful. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Not. [00:57:58] Speaker C: Not because Tarpauls. Captain Tarpals is obvious. Gungan, like, no, he's tough. [00:58:07] Speaker A: You're right. It's Tarful. [00:58:08] Speaker C: So the Chewbacca or the Wookiee one is Tarful? [00:58:11] Speaker A: Yes. [00:58:12] Speaker C: Yeah. That's not confusing at all, George. [00:58:15] Speaker A: He's just like, yeah. [00:58:17] Speaker C: Ah, General Guy Tarples. And they're like, you already did that for the first one. He's like, all right. I said Tarful. [00:58:24] Speaker A: You didn't hear me right? [00:58:25] Speaker C: Cool. [00:58:27] Speaker B: I mean, that's probably exactly how it happened. [00:58:30] Speaker C: Yeah, Probably. So hilarious. [00:58:32] Speaker B: And I like this, like, the. The slowly. The slowly and eviling of Anakin isn't actually quite so slowly when he goes into the Jedi Council chambers where the younglings are hiding. [00:58:47] Speaker C: Yeah, he. [00:58:47] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:58:48] Speaker C: He doesn't take very long. [00:58:49] Speaker B: The little. That poor little. That little kid who's just like, master. [00:58:53] Speaker C: Anakin, what should we do? And then, of course, you have one of George Lucas's actual biological children as that, like, badass teenage Jedi who fights in front of Jimmy Smiths. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Right? [00:59:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:14] Speaker C: So then what happens? Then Anakin is sent to Mustafar to deal with the Separatists and the Trade Federation, and Obi Wan has been shot and falls down the, like, long way with Unga Pachka, his. His. His lizard. And. Oh, and that's what I. He goes back to Coruscant. But so the way he gets back to Coruscant is he goes to. He takes General Grievous's cool, funky hot rod ship. And. And one thing I noticed, especially on the big screen, is he steps right over General Grievous's body, which is still just, like, smoldering on the ground there. [00:59:55] Speaker A: That's hilarious. [00:59:55] Speaker C: And then, huh? Yeah, Nobody, like, moved it around or got rid of it or, you know, and then you have Anakin Merc, all the Separatist guys Which, like, just imagine Newt Gunray at this point where what does he say? He has a line before he kills him. Yeah. [01:00:18] Speaker A: He goes, we. He goes, dorsetius promised us peace. [01:00:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Or something like that. [01:00:24] Speaker C: We were promised peace. And then you just think about, like, these poor bastards, like, the Newt goonrays of the universe, like, just were, like, probably, like, trying to make, like, a tiny bit more money, like, upset with some arcane tariff or something. And then. And, you know, Palpatine or Palpatine slash. Sidious is like, oh, well, I got you. Here's what we're going to do. We'll do you this blockade, and I got you on the Senate side of things. I'll make. I will make it legal, and I'll take care of this stuff. And then they're, like, all of a sudden dragged into a huge civil war, and they're like, oh, shit. All right, well, we're still betting on the. On the same horse that, you know, dance with the one that brought you here kind of a thing. Run what you brung. And. And then it all ends in, like, them being just brutally murdered by another, like, the fourth Sith that they've seen at this point. [01:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:20] Speaker C: And just getting nothing. And, like, I just kind of feel sad. I almost feel sad for Newt Gunray at that moment. But then what. Something that really struck me, and I'd say that I. This goes back to what I was just talking about with Grievous, is the rest of the time that we're in Mustafar, those bodies are all just on the ground for the rest of the movie. There are just so many dead bodies, like, everywhere at the end of this movie. And I just thought that was an interesting, like, kind of striking imagery to be so prevalent that I hadn't really noticed before, you know. [01:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially because largely in. In, like, episode one, like, you don't. You don't really care about it because it's all. It's all droid bodies. [01:02:05] Speaker C: Sure. And it's like a lot of living being. There's not many. There's not after the first bit. There's not much droid killing in this movie. I mean, I guess in Mustafar, there's some droids he mows down, but not really. [01:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah. The ones that are guarding the Trade Federation. [01:02:19] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's like two seconds of, like, zap dap. [01:02:21] Speaker A: You know, we cut through that stuff like butter at this point. [01:02:23] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. [01:02:24] Speaker B: But, I mean, that's. I guess that's kind of how basically a new hope starts, is you've Got that hallway scene and then there's like the. [01:02:30] Speaker C: It's a whole bodies, 100%. And that's what. Maybe that's what Lucas was going for is like, we've seen Darth Vader just murder indiscriminately for the first three movies. So, yeah, we got to start doing that now. [01:02:45] Speaker B: The morality of the Star wars universe isn't very. I don't know if there's a Star wars conscience. Really. [01:02:53] Speaker C: Well, I mean, there's the light side and the dark side, so I think there's not a conscience if you're on the dark side. [01:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true, is what it's. [01:03:00] Speaker C: But, yeah, a lot of dead bodies. It was. [01:03:04] Speaker B: What's that, Johnny? [01:03:05] Speaker A: Are you saying you're a Sith? [01:03:07] Speaker B: I don't know. Do I deal in absolutes? [01:03:13] Speaker A: Do you? [01:03:13] Speaker B: I might do. I. I don't know if I do. [01:03:16] Speaker C: You'll either upload the podcast or not, so I guess that's an absolute. [01:03:20] Speaker B: I think that extended equivocation means that I don't deal in absolute salutes. Whoops. It would be news to me if I were a Johnny. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Okay. I just want to make sure. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:34] Speaker C: What else? What. What then happens? I mean, then we get the big fight that we love. The big lightsaber. One of the best lightsaber battles in all Star Wars. Also, this one is. I think it's tied with the Duel of the Fates. [01:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:03:46] Speaker C: Sequence in Phantom Menace. [01:03:47] Speaker B: We get the handing over of dictatorial powers to this and to the Chancellor with thunderous applause. [01:03:55] Speaker C: We get her line of thunderous applause. What were you gonna say, Johnny? [01:03:58] Speaker A: I really like the little. The little duel in Force Awakens at the end. It's a much more small scale and it's emotional and you care about the characters. Yeah, I like that one. The one in the forest with Finn. [01:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:11] Speaker A: And Kylo Ren. [01:04:12] Speaker C: It's pretty cool when Finn has the lightsaber. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Well, then when Ray picks it up too. [01:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:18] Speaker A: And then, I mean, Adam Driver just kills it. Of course. He's like. He's like punching his wound. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:25] Speaker C: Yeah. I love that. [01:04:26] Speaker B: It's good. [01:04:27] Speaker A: You know, that's something he came up with. [01:04:28] Speaker C: Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah. I mean, I. I'd like a lot more if Rise of Skywalker wasn't such a big. Such a piece of. That it made me. [01:04:40] Speaker A: Those characters. [01:04:41] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, it pretty much for me, for a while. I couldn't watch any Star wars after that movie because I just thought about how stupid it was. [01:04:53] Speaker A: Yeah, well, just treated you treated me like an idiot. Yeah. [01:04:57] Speaker C: Me, a lifelong Star wars fan who's read way too many books and nerded out on way too much stuff. Like I was an idiot for not thinking that they could just do what the ever they wanted to with these characters. You know, I mean, that's what it felt like. Treats its audience very stupidly because it doesn't know what it's doing. I mean, like, you know, there's plenty of stories that have come off from sad as they were filming those movies and didn't know that it. That she was going to be Ray Palpatine. [01:05:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:25] Speaker C: Like till well into post. It's like, maybe that is a decision you should have made before you went to set. [01:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah, possibly. And there could have been. There could have been an arc to it. It could have been. You could have seen it coming. [01:05:41] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Maybe somehow Palpatine survived though. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Speaking. Speaking of stupid, we get the conversation between Anakin and Padme on Mustafar. And boy, boy, Georgy Porgy sure knows how to. To write dialogue. [01:05:59] Speaker C: Should have taken taken a swing at that scene. [01:06:02] Speaker B: You're breaking my heart. [01:06:04] Speaker C: If you're not with me, then you're against me. [01:06:06] Speaker A: You're breaking my heart. [01:06:08] Speaker C: You have done that. [01:06:12] Speaker B: Did I send you that thing, Johnny of. It's this scene on Mustafar, only every time it cuts to Obi Wan, it plays sexy back. [01:06:21] Speaker C: Oh, I've seen that before. I love that. Yeah, that's good. Cool fight scene though. He has the high ground. So as we all know in Star wars lore, that means that you lose immediately. [01:06:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:35] Speaker C: Also another thing that I feel like maybe set that up in some fact. [01:06:40] Speaker A: He's like a. Like a training sequence. [01:06:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:42] Speaker A: He's like, I have the high ground. Ha. That's your weakness. Or like. [01:06:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I think they saved or even it could have happened during the. Do the, the Dooku fight sequence at some point. There could have been like a little thing about that. [01:06:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Because Dooku could have said I had the high ground before he does that whoop de foop over the railing. [01:07:00] Speaker C: Yeah. Or maybe Anakin had the high ground and Dooku comes after him and that's when he cuts his hands off. [01:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:07:07] Speaker B: You know, I do like that. They are fighting on a lava planet on non lava proof infrastructure. [01:07:16] Speaker A: No, it is lava proof. Shields get turned off. [01:07:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:07:21] Speaker A: He, when they're fighting, he slashes some control. Visual storytelling. It shows his control and it's like. And all the shields go, okay. [01:07:28] Speaker C: And then those start falling in and. [01:07:29] Speaker B: That'S okay, that makes. That makes more sense. I missed that. [01:07:32] Speaker C: And those little robots that they're flying around on is kind of funny. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:36] Speaker C: They're just riding on some little like worker robot's head. The droid's probably like, what the man? [01:07:42] Speaker B: It's basically like being. [01:07:43] Speaker C: I have a deadline here. [01:07:45] Speaker B: I like the, I like the, the factory aspect of the. The prequels where they're just fighting always in factory fight. [01:07:56] Speaker A: They always feel like they're like a really realized place. They're just intersecting. [01:07:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:01] Speaker A: Which is cool. [01:08:02] Speaker C: Yeah. And then we got uba uba. Luckily the 40x doesn't like make you feel like you're also being birthed at the end. [01:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So for those who don't remember the birthing, nurse droids go u bah to try and teach. It's like Lamaze breezing Lamaze breathing in a perfectly timed joke just at that moment. We need a Lamaze. [01:08:26] Speaker C: Yeah, we need a weird Lamaze. I don't know, I don't even see it as a joke. It's just like as a weird world building thing that I'm sort of into. And also it's. I will never not quote uba. Uba. So yeah, I mean, what do I know? [01:08:40] Speaker A: There you go. Exactly. [01:08:42] Speaker B: There's the, the fight between Palpatine and Yoda. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [01:08:46] Speaker C: Oh yeah. We didn't even talk about that. [01:08:47] Speaker B: He just like, he just throws him to the floor of the Senate and then the. His lackeys are like we can't find the body. So it's like that must mean he's alive and it's just like dismisses him. You think. You'd think that he would be much more concerned by the fact that he did not actually kill yoga. [01:09:05] Speaker C: Kill yoga. Yeah. Maybe the most powerful guy, his most powerful enemy. [01:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:12] Speaker C: Into exile I must go. [01:09:13] Speaker A: I do love that he calls him my little green. [01:09:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I did too. I mean he's just still just like I love, I love whenever like he gets like thrown by Yoda like backwards over his chair and he's just like cackling and like he's like upside down and like an awkward hilarious. Like I just love that he's just like Palpatine just thinks is just having the time of his life now that he's finally like fully evil. Yeah. [01:09:38] Speaker B: He's just like doesn't have to worry up appearances. [01:09:42] Speaker A: No. [01:09:42] Speaker C: It's so awesome. He's just. And I mean I love that like it's. You could say that this is heavy handed, but I love that the, like, the new emperor is literally dismantling the Senate chamber by. And trying to kill Yoda with, like, pieces of the chamber and all their little floaty chairs. [01:10:02] Speaker B: If you're looking for subtlety in your Star Wars. [01:10:04] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:10:05] Speaker B: You're looking at the wrong spot. [01:10:06] Speaker A: Wrong movie. [01:10:08] Speaker B: Oh, man, look at him burn. Look at him go. He's just like. He's like the marshmallow that you. You caught on fire. Look at him. [01:10:15] Speaker C: He's got his hot shaved head. Girlfriend. Palpatine. Yeah, that's there all the time. Or Sly Moore. Is that character's name Sly? [01:10:26] Speaker A: S L Y M O O R E. Okay. [01:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure more like how Palpatine. Like how Palpatine's like. We should probably go pick up Anakin. He. He's done fucked himself over. [01:10:37] Speaker C: Yeah. Then we get the. Cool. You know, I mean, I think that the. The inner cutting between childbirth and Vader being created is pretty great. I mean. [01:10:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:53] Speaker C: It's gruesome in a way that feels important. Yeah. [01:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:01] Speaker C: He wakes up, he gets pissed. [01:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:03] Speaker C: Breaks all that as. [01:11:05] Speaker B: As infamous news, as we know from Spawn, kills everyone. The. The one shot that. It's his most famous quote. No. [01:11:13] Speaker A: Right. They say that in Swan. [01:11:15] Speaker C: No. [01:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he kills Darth Vader. [01:11:21] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know. The. No doesn't bother me like it did when I was 14 or whatever, you know? [01:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I really like. [01:11:27] Speaker C: Pretty great. I don't know. What else are you gonna say? What else? What's the other line that goes there? You know? [01:11:31] Speaker B: I like the POV shot of the. The visor being the helmet being put on and. [01:11:36] Speaker C: Yeah. That's awesome to see. [01:11:37] Speaker B: Invader vision, huh? [01:11:40] Speaker C: I love the likes. I love, especially on the big screen, that just like the. After the visor that goes on, the helmet part coming on like sideways and it just taking up the entire shot. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:52] Speaker C: Of the, like, lines of the Vader helmet as the Imperial March kind of bummer remix comes in. Yeah, yeah, that part's masterful. And the like, high pitched, like wine of the air sort of sealing in before you get the breath. Yeah, it's pretty masterful. [01:12:09] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't know if we've mentioned it yet on this, the third episode of Regarding Star wars, but Darth Vader, an amazing. An amazing character design. [01:12:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Pretty iconic character design. You don't say. [01:12:23] Speaker B: It's. It's great and it. It really doesn't make any sense, but it is. [01:12:27] Speaker C: No, but it's fucking awesome. Yeah. And then Bail Organa always wanted a baby girl, so they take Leia and they just dump Luke and Tatooine. And of course you get Twin Sunset again. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Uncle. [01:12:42] Speaker A: Yeah, he dumps him with his stepbrother who. All he knows of him. He's like, came to Tatooine, was kind of a jerk to him, and then killed a bunch of Tuscan raiders. [01:12:49] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. [01:12:50] Speaker A: And then left. [01:12:51] Speaker C: Here's a baby Goodbye. [01:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:54] Speaker C: And then that's it. And then it's then. Then it sets up the next one in the series, which is, of course, Rogue One. [01:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:01] Speaker A: Solo. [01:13:02] Speaker C: Oh, Solo. First, my apologies. How could I forget? [01:13:07] Speaker B: You get to see the skeleton of the Death Star being built, which. [01:13:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:12] Speaker B: At this point. At this point is Thrawn erasure. Because we know that Thrawn is very, very important in the sourcing of the materials and the building of the Death Star Star. [01:13:23] Speaker C: Here's the thing, David, you may know that I certainly do not. I remember Thrawn being a important admiral in the books that no longer count. [01:13:36] Speaker B: Well, yeah, so he's. He's still an important admiral, but now he's. He's. He's run a lot of the COVID Yeah. Like collecting of the. The items to build the rare earth. [01:13:48] Speaker C: Minerals that they need to build. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Yeah. He oversees a lot of the strip mining operations on the outer rim. [01:13:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, that's. So you just talk about a perfect example of Disney wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Is like Thrawn. [01:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:01] Speaker C: Stuff. It's like. No. None of this expanded universe from the 90s counts at all. We're still gonna take all the best stuff from it and then make it into whatever dumb we want to have. Yeah. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:16] Speaker B: I mean, we're. We're obviously still watching it. [01:14:21] Speaker C: You might be. [01:14:22] Speaker B: I do like that. They give. They give Uncle Owen the. The. The Luke shot from. From A New Hope. [01:14:29] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [01:14:30] Speaker B: At the end. [01:14:30] Speaker C: Binary sunset. [01:14:31] Speaker B: Love it. It's real good. [01:14:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Uncle Owen played by that guy who's in a lot of stuff around. Yes. Like 10 years after this. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:41] Speaker A: Joel Edgerton. [01:14:42] Speaker C: Edgerton, that's his name. Yeah. A guy who looks like four other guys in Hollywood. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:48] Speaker C: He looks like the guy from the Planet of the Apes movies. He looks like. Kind of looks like the Avatar guy. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:56] Speaker B: Oh, don't. Don't forget that Before. Before we get there. Before Yoda into exile, he must go. Tells Obi Wan that he needs to go basically meditate so he can talk to dead people. [01:15:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:09] Speaker A: There's a whole scene this Qui Gon was supposed to be in this. Yeah, it was scheduling conflicts. [01:15:15] Speaker C: You hear his voice in one dream sequence. [01:15:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he was supposed to be in this movie. And at the end, and when they show Yoda meditating, kind of looking out when. At the medical station. Yeah, he was supposed to be talking to Qui Gon's ghost. It's in the novelization. [01:15:30] Speaker B: It's. It's in Clone wars too, in the last season. Spoilers. [01:15:34] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:15:34] Speaker B: Yeah, because there's. There's a whole. There's a whole bit of Obi Wan on Tatooine. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Okay. [01:15:41] Speaker B: In the last season, especially. Especially around the demise of Darth Maul, because that's where Darth Maul ultimately dies is at the hands of Obi Wan Kenobi on Tatooine. Yep. Because Darth Maul is using the exact same lightsaber moves that he used to kill Qui Gon. And Obi Wan learned to go this. [01:16:02] Speaker C: Way instead of that way. [01:16:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:16:06] Speaker C: Thrilling. What else is there to say about Revenge of The Sith? Only PG13 Star wars movie at the time. [01:16:16] Speaker A: First, all the new. Yeah, all the new ones are people. That was a big deal, right? [01:16:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that was a big deal. I remember that being a big deal. [01:16:22] Speaker B: I must say that I liked the. The Tarkin. Like, it's literally. You could tell that they just cut out from the original film the sequence of Tarkin and then just, like, pasted him in instead of the nasty CGI that we have nowadays. [01:16:40] Speaker C: Oh, sure. Well, I mean, they hired an actor for. For the wide shot where he, like, walks away. [01:16:45] Speaker A: That's an actor. [01:16:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:47] Speaker B: So, yeah, you could tell. You could tell that it's not actual dude. But I'm pretty sure when they've got the angle from the like. Like the computer pit looking up at him, I'm pretty sure that's just copy paste from the original. Interesting, because it. It's. It's too. Too smooth to be an actor in a math mask. But I like that. [01:17:10] Speaker A: I like something terrifying. Look up the Tarkin actor mask. It's terrifying. [01:17:15] Speaker B: All right, we're going to Tarin Actor mask. [01:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah, Tarkin, Episode three Actor. [01:17:20] Speaker B: I mean. Oh, God, that's frightening, isn't it? [01:17:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:17:28] Speaker B: Damn. [01:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:29] Speaker C: You know what? It looks better than. [01:17:31] Speaker B: Though cga. [01:17:33] Speaker C: The CG went in. Is that Rogue One or is that. [01:17:36] Speaker A: Yes, that's Rogue One. [01:17:38] Speaker B: Well, because they also do. They also do a Leia too, because that was, like, right after. [01:17:43] Speaker C: Oh, we certainly know that they do a Leia in whatever that movies called Rise of Star wars twice. [01:17:52] Speaker A: Because they do it in Rogue One as a young person. They do her in. [01:17:54] Speaker C: Oh, I forgot about the Rogue One part. [01:17:57] Speaker B: Oh, man. [01:17:57] Speaker C: It's pretty limited though, right? Yeah. [01:18:00] Speaker A: It's just her saying. Hope that's it. [01:18:02] Speaker B: I must. I must say, though, that that completely computer generated Tarkin in Clone wars is amazing, so. [01:18:11] Speaker C: Well, sure. They're not trying to be a human being. [01:18:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:20] Speaker C: Sad. What a shame. [01:18:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:24] Speaker C: What else? We didn't really talk about Spawn. Obviously, we don't on these episodes. Okay, great. [01:18:29] Speaker B: But Star Wars. [01:18:31] Speaker C: I haven't read any Spawn in a long time. Spawn fans. Not since the last time I was a guest on this episode. On this. [01:18:39] Speaker B: Was it the Christmas. Was it the Christmas episode was the last? [01:18:43] Speaker C: I think so. [01:18:44] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. That's a good one, too. [01:18:46] Speaker C: Wow. Always a pleasure, though. Oh, man. [01:18:50] Speaker A: Of course. Well, we got a rate. You know, David, you got to do your line. [01:18:53] Speaker B: I got to do my line. Oh, well. So. So I got a couple of dogs sleeping over here that have been trying to keep from barking the whole time to limited success, but better than. [01:19:03] Speaker C: I haven't heard them at all. [01:19:04] Speaker B: Nice. But. So I guess we should probably Wait. Rate some puppies. So, Johnny, I think it's time to rate the puppies. [01:19:12] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies. So the only thing up today is Star Wars Episode three, Revenge of the Sith. And we rated out of five. I like this movie. I think it's fun. There are some really big lulls and, like, huge issues with script and character and dialogue, but at the end of the day, it works. It's thrilling and it's refreshing. It's honestly, like a lot of its problems are diminished by how, like, modern Marvel blockbusters have been. Just like. It's so much better than those. [01:19:48] Speaker C: It's great. [01:19:49] Speaker A: It has its flaws. [01:19:50] Speaker C: Feels like a real movie in a way that so many of those do not. [01:19:55] Speaker A: Right? [01:19:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:56] Speaker C: You know, feels like there's stakes the whole time. Yeah, they're not. Not a bit of it takes place in an Atlanta parking lot. [01:20:07] Speaker B: That's right. [01:20:09] Speaker C: Not one single part. [01:20:13] Speaker A: No, but I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it three and a half buzz droids, whatever they do. Three and a half buzz droids out of five. [01:20:28] Speaker B: Nice. [01:20:28] Speaker A: What do you think, David? [01:20:29] Speaker B: But I think. I think this movie is so. First off, this is. This is a lot of movie. There's a lot of movie in here. It's. It's you. You. You know, you are having to watch a movie when you watch this movie. I Think it's much better in parts than sitting in one. Concerted effort is really the biggest ding I have against it, is pacing, I guess. But it's got a lot to do, and it gets there, and I. I really, really like it. I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it four bowcasters from the. From the Wookiee army against the Separatist droids because it's just. It's so much fun. That's probably the. The parts of it that are fun are probably the most fun parts of the Bridge prequels. But, yeah, it just has a lot to do. [01:21:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Big movie. Is it the longest Star wars movie? [01:21:31] Speaker A: No, I think that's either last. I think it's the Last Jedi. [01:21:33] Speaker C: Really? [01:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:35] Speaker C: This one's 2 hours and 20 minutes or so. Let's see here. Last Jedi run time. [01:21:42] Speaker A: It's like 237. [01:21:44] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Yeah, two hours and 32. So Last Jedi seems to be the longest. Well, I don't know. I used to be. And I think I still am a person who likes to argue that Phantom Menace is the best of the first three. I know John and I see eye to eye on this. I think it is not an even lukewarm take to say that Attack of the Clones is probably the worst of the first three. Absolutely puts this one in the middle, honestly. Kind of like John said, compared to anything now, this movie, it feels like a real movie. Choices were made. Stakes are, like, fucking crazy high the whole time. There's some clunky dialogue, for sure. There's some slower parts, for sure, but what are we doing here? Five stars. [01:22:48] Speaker B: Who care? [01:22:51] Speaker C: Great, great Star wars movie. Not the best of the nine. Certainly not the worst. And I think that basically, yeah, five stars. Five. Five. General Grievous arms. Out of four. General Grievous arms. [01:23:08] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:23:09] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. [01:23:10] Speaker A: There you go. [01:23:11] Speaker C: Like, whatever, man. Great movie. Great time. I will. I would not see it in 40x. If I had the choice again, I would. I would see it in IMAX or. I'd love to see this movie in Dolby Digital. I bet it looks and sounds fantastic. My only complaint from this viewing is I. Like I said earlier, the sound in 40x is not the best. And I would have loved to hear one of the best Star wars scores in my opinion. Just, like, blowing me away. But other than that, great movie. Five stars, who cares? You know what? All Star wars movies are five stars. Except for Attack of the Clones, which is three. Rise of Skywalker, which is negative five. That's How I feel about it at this point. And those are the only ones that count. Rogue Squat. Rogue. Rogue Squadron. I wish. Rogue One is like a three star, probably for me. [01:24:08] Speaker B: Johnny and I have differing opinions on Rogue One Solo. [01:24:12] Speaker C: I just. I will never watch that movie again or hopefully ever think about it. [01:24:16] Speaker B: So it's just very unnecessary. [01:24:18] Speaker C: What else is that? All of them. Is those the only two side story ones? Did I miss one? [01:24:22] Speaker B: I think that's it. That's it. Yeah. [01:24:23] Speaker C: I'll never watch the shows because I don't know, I've. I have life to live, so I'll never. Maybe I'll watch the Gindy Tartakovsky show again, but, like, I'll never watch any of these live action ones. I do not. I've watched the first season of Mandalorian. Don't care. Whatever, man. But this movie, great George Lucas, guys. I mean, what. What a guy. [01:24:45] Speaker B: It gives us. It gives us stars and war stars gives us wars. On the 10. [01:24:50] Speaker C: He famously said, all my movies, new planets, new aliens. New aliens. But they wanted to do a retro movie. And that's fine. [01:24:58] Speaker A: That's when George Lucas's interview, where he called, we told. Where he told. He says, I sold Disney to white slavers. [01:25:05] Speaker C: I sold Star Wars. [01:25:06] Speaker A: Star wars to white. [01:25:07] Speaker C: It's like selling my children into white slavery was, I think, which is a. [01:25:13] Speaker A: Pulp term for sex slavery. Let's just give them. [01:25:15] Speaker C: Well, it's more than that. It's, you know, usually calling it white slavery makes it seem worse because they're not sleeping. [01:25:21] Speaker A: Right. Oh, that's the whole thing. [01:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:23] Speaker C: Brown and black people. [01:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:25] Speaker C: Of course, fight slavery would be worse. Yeah. Not a great quote from George. But also he's. He's right on the rest of it as far as making the rest of the movies are retro, as he calls them, retro movies. And this is the last one that you get with all new kooky ideas from the brain of George Lucas. [01:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:45] Speaker C: Other than something like whatever that, like rap movie he made and you know the Red Tails movie. [01:25:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:54] Speaker C: We've got. This is the last movie from George Lucas. Right. I mean, this is the last. [01:25:57] Speaker A: Last film. [01:25:58] Speaker C: Yeah. Maybe he'll do another one someday. [01:26:01] Speaker B: Maybe. [01:26:02] Speaker A: He's always said he wanted to do, like, random experimental movies. Once he finished. [01:26:05] Speaker B: He should do it. Come on. [01:26:07] Speaker C: Because you're not getting any younger, George. And if you want John Williams, which I suggest you do. He's really not getting any younger. He's 93 now. [01:26:16] Speaker B: He probably already has something tucked away. And it's like, I Gotta. Come on, George. You just gotta give me stuff. [01:26:22] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know. Star wars, baby. [01:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, Star wars, baby. [01:26:27] Speaker B: Mad about this is probably the one that gets just unintentionally quoted the most. Just because. [01:26:33] Speaker C: Do it. Yeah, I mean, I think this one and Phantom Menace. Probably because Jar Jar's got a bunch of quotable lines. [01:26:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's true. [01:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:26:47] Speaker C: Misa banished. [01:26:50] Speaker B: How rude. [01:26:52] Speaker C: How Wood. [01:26:53] Speaker A: You know what else? You know what else would be rude, David? [01:26:56] Speaker B: What's that? [01:26:57] Speaker A: If we didn't. If you didn't follow us on Instagram. [01:27:01] Speaker B: Oh, that would be rude. That would be very rude. [01:27:04] Speaker A: So we are regarding Spum Pod. [01:27:06] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:27:07] Speaker A: On Instagram. [01:27:08] Speaker B: Indeed. [01:27:08] Speaker A: Please give us a follow. [01:27:09] Speaker B: Please. You can reach out to us there. You could also reach out to us on email at. Regarding spawnpodmail.com let us know what you think about episode three, into the Sith. I always think it's Rise of the Sith. They should have called it Rise of the Sith, not Revenge of the Sith. But that's neither here nor there. [01:27:28] Speaker C: Return Revenge. Rise. [01:27:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:27:32] Speaker C: He's not really getting revenge for anything. [01:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah, no. [01:27:35] Speaker A: Well, the Sith were like, I guess wiped out by the Jedi is the idea. And I got revenge for that. [01:27:41] Speaker B: So. Brand, do you have anything that you would like to plug? Anything coming up? Any? [01:27:47] Speaker C: Nope. Nope. [01:27:48] Speaker B: All right. Awesome. [01:27:49] Speaker A: All right. [01:27:51] Speaker C: Nothing for me. [01:27:52] Speaker B: Nice. Anything. [01:27:53] Speaker C: Anything that you're excited Media much these days? [01:27:57] Speaker B: So anything that you're thinking about coming. [01:27:59] Speaker C: Up still online somewhere if you want to listen to it. But I won't, you know, Knock yourself out. [01:28:03] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Movie. [01:28:04] Speaker C: The Musical. Google it. [01:28:05] Speaker B: It's. It's a fun time. Johnny was on an episode. [01:28:08] Speaker C: He was on a couple episodes. Just one. [01:28:10] Speaker B: Very. [01:28:10] Speaker A: Just one. Toxic Avenger. [01:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Which. How. How excited are you about that? Peter Dinklage, Toxic Avenger. Johnny. [01:28:18] Speaker A: I want to see it. For sure. [01:28:19] Speaker C: I want to see it, too. I'm stoked. I think it'll be weird. [01:28:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:22] Speaker C: Who's directing? [01:28:23] Speaker A: I think his name's Macon Blair. He's involved in, like. He's like a producer mainly. But he did, like. He's in green room and produced it. [01:28:30] Speaker C: That's right. That's. It's Green Room adjacent. Is what, the movie. [01:28:33] Speaker A: Yes, It's. [01:28:33] Speaker C: Those guys got, you know. More green. [01:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah, more green. [01:28:37] Speaker A: More green. [01:28:37] Speaker C: More foxy green room. [01:28:39] Speaker A: It works together. [01:28:40] Speaker B: Yeah. The Toxic Room. The green. [01:28:43] Speaker A: While you're on the Internet, make sure to follow Lonnie Bones. Well, not follow, but find their music. They do our music. [01:28:49] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:28:49] Speaker A: Search for Lonnie Bones with a Y. [01:28:51] Speaker B: Yes. Excellent. And Johnny, what do you think about. So since we talked about some Star wars here, what do you think about maybe taking a year to watch another movie and then talking about some Star wars again? [01:29:04] Speaker A: That sounds good to me. [01:29:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:29:05] Speaker A: I think next year. [01:29:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:07] Speaker A: Well, this is a big debate. We can debate it live on air. Do we watch Solo or do we watch episode 4? [01:29:16] Speaker B: I am in the camp of let's just go to episode four. But I agree. I would be willing to watch solo if you'd be willing to watch it. [01:29:23] Speaker C: Will you get year four of your podcast by then? [01:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:26] Speaker A: Oh, a year from now? Yeah. [01:29:28] Speaker C: Well, there you go. Episode four. Perfect. [01:29:29] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:29:31] Speaker A: Yep. Easy. All right, all right, it's a. Settled then. [01:29:35] Speaker B: Okay. So watch a Star War and come back. I. I know. [01:29:39] Speaker A: And it's these. Watch these Star Wars. It was originally just Star Wars. [01:29:42] Speaker B: I know several people who refuse to call it anything other than. Than Star Wars. They're like, if I say. If I say I'm watching Star wars, that's the one I'm watching. Everything else has a subtitle, but Star. [01:29:52] Speaker C: Wars does a very pedantic attitude to have. [01:29:56] Speaker A: Hey, A new hope. A new Star Wars. Episode four, a new Hope. [01:29:59] Speaker B: There you go. Yes. [01:30:00] Speaker A: What if that had been the original title? [01:30:05] Speaker B: I mean, you know, that. That seems much more like a. I think that would be much more of a postmodern endeavor than George Lucas would ever be comfortable pursuing to just start at Episode four. [01:30:19] Speaker A: But he did. [01:30:20] Speaker B: But to call it Episode four and call out the fact that it's missing something from intrinsic to its being. I. I don't think Georgie Porgy is too much of a classic romantic, literary romantic, or. Or modernists to actually go into that. He's not. He's not. He's not a surrealist. He's not a dadaist. He needs. He needs the actual stuff. [01:30:46] Speaker A: I don't know. Have you seen fucking THX 1138? He's pretty surreal. [01:30:51] Speaker B: Say. Yeah, I haven't. No, sorry. Unfortunately, I can let you borrow it. Oh, and if it's on Blu Ray. Blu Ray. I now have a way to watch that. [01:31:02] Speaker A: Yes. I brought David a Blu Ray player. [01:31:04] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:31:05] Speaker C: Nice. [01:31:06] Speaker B: Very excited. [01:31:07] Speaker A: Like I said, I promised I would on the pod and I did it. Yeah, I couldn't find the remote, though. Sorry. Sucker. [01:31:13] Speaker B: That's okay. [01:31:14] Speaker A: I will find it. [01:31:14] Speaker B: I can. I can press buttons on the machine. That's fine. [01:31:17] Speaker A: Okay. [01:31:18] Speaker B: Yeah, well, so Johnny and Bran, we talked about some good Star wars here and fucking loved it. It's great. I think I have nothing else to say except for. May the Force be with you. [01:31:35] Speaker C: Time to abandon ship. [01:31:42] Speaker A: Goodbye. There. [01:32:07] Speaker C: It.