Episode 135 - King Spawn 43 and Scorched 39

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Part of Al Simmons surviving his dozens of military black ops missions rested on his ability to distinguish the difference between people who talk and those who won't. Good evening and welcome to the Malibu. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:52] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny, it is time for us to talk about some things like Spawn is good. Spawn is very good. And Spawn leads us directly to Hell. And Hell is a concept largely based on, you know, religious dogma and organization. And you know, what else is an organization based off of religious dogma and hierarchy, etc. Etc. [00:01:24] Speaker A: The Clergy of Ghosts. [00:01:25] Speaker B: The Clergy of Ghosts. Hell yeah. Because, you know, you people, in the future, it's no longer ghost release day for you, but for us here in the recording of episode 134. 135, whichever. Episode 135 it is. New ghost Day, Johnny. [00:01:43] Speaker A: I know, it's a glorious day. I've listened to the album twice now. Once last night and once this morning. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Hell yeah. [00:01:51] Speaker A: Read some Spawn to it this morning. Going over the issues again. But yeah, it's really good. It reminds me a lot of Journey in like, that vein. A lot of power ballads. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Yes, yes, indeed. Very 80s, very rich and soundscapey. [00:02:08] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like, interesting because it's like nicer, it's like brighter, but it's. The lyrics are sadder. The music's brighter. [00:02:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:15] Speaker A: Which is interesting. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Yeah. It started with lyrics and. And songs dark as hell and then went to light lyrics. Darker, darker music. And now it's crossed over the other way where it's right. [00:02:31] Speaker A: It's all crisscross. Yeah, yeah. The. It's fun. I really enjoyed it. I feel like it's a little. I was telling you this, a little front loaded. Like the first four songs really stand out. And then kind of the back kind of blends together. But that's only on the first initial few listens. So I will obviously my. I hear a ghost once and I'm like, oh, that's pretty good. And then like two weeks later, it's stuck in my head. Yeah, that's like how it goes. It's like it like bores its way in there slowly. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Like an ash borer. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Like those ear. Like earworms in Star Trek, Wrath of Khan. [00:03:05] Speaker B: Oh, God. Oh, no. Oh. Oh, no. Poor, poor Chekhov. [00:03:10] Speaker A: I know. He gets the ear wormed. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Does. [00:03:13] Speaker A: No, I mean, it's great. I'm excited for the new show, which we need to get tickets to yes. [00:03:18] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:03:19] Speaker A: I'll talk to Br. We'll talk on Sunday. [00:03:21] Speaker B: We'll talk. We'll talk. We'll talk on the Lord's day. [00:03:24] Speaker A: You mean we'll talk on the Lord's Day. [00:03:26] Speaker B: The Lord Tobias forges day. [00:03:29] Speaker A: Really elaborate, vile marketing to have them, you know, kill off the Pope the week of their release. [00:03:35] Speaker B: They're. They're. Yeah, their advertising budget has gone through the roof. [00:03:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. So all they do is send JD Vance in there and he just died of fright. [00:03:45] Speaker B: I. I think. I think if I had to be stuck in a room with J.D. vance, I personally would be so frustrated, I'd give myself a stroke. [00:03:53] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. Me too. Except he's a handsome man because he looks like me, so I have to say that. Apparently not that handsome, though. The back. Have you ever seen the picture of the back of his head? [00:04:04] Speaker B: No. No. [00:04:05] Speaker A: He looks like a little kid. Like. Like the way he does his hair in the back, it looks like someone, like, went up to the back of his head, like, rubbed their hand on it. So it's all static and funny. [00:04:14] Speaker B: It's like my grandmother who used to sleep in a. She used to sleep in her easy chair because she couldn't lay all the way back. So, like, she would do the front of her hair, but the back of her hair still had, like, that little bump from sleeping on the recliner. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what J.D. vance looks like from the back. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Hilarious. [00:04:34] Speaker A: But yeah, he. He killed the Pope. And Ghost is now the new Pope. [00:04:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I. I saw that. I saw that White smoke. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. And they said, Papa 5 white snake. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Smoke, if you will. Ooh, that. That was a good one. Yeah, that's how you know it's a good joke, is you got to say, that was a good one. [00:04:54] Speaker A: That's how you know. [00:04:55] Speaker B: That's how you know. [00:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah, Lots going on this. [00:04:59] Speaker B: It's. It is. It is chock full of stuff around here, Johnny. We. We ain't got any excuse to be bored. There's so much spawn, there's so much new ghosts. There's lots of things to distract us. [00:05:14] Speaker A: We've got the Revenge of the Sith re release in 40x. We're seeing on Sunday. [00:05:17] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. I'm. [00:05:19] Speaker A: For our Star wars day. [00:05:20] Speaker B: So fucking excited. So fucking excited. Yeah, they don't make you wear the. There aren't like a special set of glasses you have to wear at a 40x, are there? [00:05:28] Speaker A: No. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Okay, awesome. Good. Because as a glassesman, those little things, it's like. [00:05:37] Speaker A: No I don't think It's. It's not 3D. They would have to convert it to 3D. And that movie. That movie was released before the dawn of 3D, if you can believe it. [00:05:48] Speaker B: Or at least modern 3D, because they could just. [00:05:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, modern the dawn of, like, when it came back, like, it started, like, that movie came out in 2005, and I think it started, like, 2007 or eight, building to Avatar, which came out in 2009. [00:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. It definitely was, like, noteworthy my freshman year of college, which would have been late 06. Early 07. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I just remember Coraline was the first big one I saw, and that was probably, like, early 2009 or late 2008 or something like that. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Nice. Didn't they do that. That all 3D Beowulf and. Or all, like, 3D in 3D sometime around there. [00:06:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that. [00:06:31] Speaker B: What a weird. What a weird movie to put in the 3D. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Robert Zemeckis, man, he's. He's always pushing the envelope somehow in a weird way. [00:06:41] Speaker B: He's. Zemeckising. He's just Zemeckising about. That's all he does. [00:06:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he just did that one with Tom Hanks where it's, like, one camera angle his whole life. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the one where it's. It's. It's like the plot of Land on the Earth and what's happening on it. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:56] Speaker B: Wild. I haven't seen it. I don't know if I'm gonna see it, but they talked to Tom Hanks on the radio during, like, the. The advertising portion of. Of. What do they call that when you're out there? Promotion. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Press tour. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Press tour. Yes. There we go. They were talking about it, and Tom Hanks, like, had this little story of just, like, you know, camping and then looking across the river at a vacant piece of land over there, and he was just, like, so mournfully yearning for the knowledge of that empty land across the river. And there's absolutely no way that the movie could live up to that little. Just that little bit of Tom Hanks talking. [00:07:40] Speaker A: Wow. I didn't know it was about a plot of land. I thought it was just about, like, it was on, like, a mantle piece and showed a family. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, no, because it's. It's. The idea is that this is all the life that has happened in this part of the world. [00:07:53] Speaker A: So show dinosaurs the beginning. [00:07:55] Speaker B: I. I think it does show dinosaurs at the beginning. Yes. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Really? [00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah. It's largely focused on the family that has. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:01] Speaker B: There. But it does sort of incorporate like, you know, back before it was even. Even populated with flora and fauna. And then. Okay, being a Zemeckis and a feel good for boomers probably completely ignores the forced removal of the original inhabitants. But you never know. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Probably. And we ain't talking about the asteroid. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know. You know what is an asteroid? Right into my brain, Johnny. [00:08:31] Speaker A: These issues of Spawn. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Spawn just in general, it obliterates all other thoughts. It's just Spawn. Spawn. [00:08:40] Speaker A: The ever present, ever ominous Spawn. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Yes. I was going to say ever elusive. But if he's ever present. I don't know if he can be elusive. [00:08:50] Speaker A: He's elusive. The comic books are not. [00:08:53] Speaker B: Oh, man. He is definitely not elusive in this King Spawn that. We got to read this this week, Johnny. But. But that's jumping ahead because we haven't told them what we're doing yet, have we? [00:09:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we are respawn. Where Every week. Every week. [00:09:09] Speaker B: That's. That's. [00:09:09] Speaker A: That's what you say. [00:09:10] Speaker B: That's a reach for the week, Johnny. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Reach. We are regarding Spawn. Okay. You understand me? [00:09:18] Speaker B: No. Each week, enunciate more. [00:09:22] Speaker A: Each. We bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. Except when we don't. This week is no different. We have two issues for you from Spawn's universe. And first up, we've got king spawn. It's 43. It's king spawn 43. All the way back from March 2025. And then we have scorched 39, also from March 2025. [00:09:55] Speaker B: Good old March 2025. [00:09:56] Speaker A: Good month. [00:09:58] Speaker B: I've been so stressed. I don't even remember what happened in March. [00:10:01] Speaker A: I went to Tulsa for a week, and it was. Well, it was really good. [00:10:06] Speaker B: Nice. Excellent. What? What? What? Did you go to Tully's? [00:10:11] Speaker A: No, I didn't go to Tully's. What's Tully's? [00:10:14] Speaker B: Tully's is a. Is a diner. [00:10:16] Speaker A: I don't even know what that is. [00:10:17] Speaker B: It's just a diner in Tulsa. [00:10:19] Speaker A: Okay. I'll have to check it out. [00:10:21] Speaker B: So when. When I went the. The last time I went down and I was like, oh, man, I need to go to Waffle House. People were like, you went to Waffle House and didn't go to Telly's? And it's like, never been to Telly's. I want Waffle House, man. Waffle House is good. [00:10:34] Speaker A: No, March was. Was a good month. So I'm glad to be living back in March for these two issues. [00:10:41] Speaker B: Living in the past, Johnny. [00:10:43] Speaker A: One foot in the past. Eyes on the future. [00:10:46] Speaker B: We're living for the reach end. [00:10:47] Speaker A: The. The who? [00:10:49] Speaker B: The. The reach end. Like you just smushed reach and weekend or week together, so you smush them together. The reach end. [00:10:56] Speaker A: You're doing a recall joke about something I mispronounced. [00:11:01] Speaker B: Isn't that what we're supposed to do? [00:11:03] Speaker A: I guess so. [00:11:04] Speaker B: Isn't that like rule number six or seven of. [00:11:07] Speaker A: It's rule number 66. [00:11:09] Speaker B: It's rule number 66 of improv. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Execute rule 66. [00:11:16] Speaker B: Could you imagine if there was actually a rule of improv where you had to kill all the children in the audience? [00:11:22] Speaker A: I mean, there should be rule improv where the audience gets up and kills all the performers. [00:11:27] Speaker B: Oh, no, I don't know. [00:11:29] Speaker A: I've seen. I'm living like the city of improv. [00:11:34] Speaker B: That's a little unfair, Johnny, because it's very easy to come across bad improv. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Maybe I just don't like improv. [00:11:40] Speaker B: A little bit of improv goes a long way is the thing. [00:11:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I would agree. [00:11:46] Speaker B: Especially since everybody in town follows kind of the same school of. Of teaching. It's a lot of. It's a lot of the same things over and over again. So you gotta. You gotta wait until people have had enough reps that they have new ideas. [00:12:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. It's just like, it always kind of hits the same beats and like, I. [00:12:07] Speaker B: Don'T know, there's a lot of low hanging fruit involved. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Right. I took an improv class once. [00:12:13] Speaker B: How'd it go? [00:12:15] Speaker A: It was fun. It's fun. That's the problem. I think it's more fun for the people doing it than the people watching it. [00:12:22] Speaker B: I can see that. Also there's a. There's a lot of good. There's a lot of good. Just like adaptable to basically every part of your life. Skills that you could learn during improv. [00:12:32] Speaker A: No, there is. And like a lot of people in the class were just like. There's like some business people there. People just want to get out of their shell. They weren't all necessarily actors and performers like yours, Trul. [00:12:42] Speaker B: None of them tread the boards. [00:12:44] Speaker A: None of them tread Trip Delight. Fantastic. Well, they did because we did like a showcase at the end because they were. [00:12:51] Speaker B: They were all on acid is what you're saying. [00:12:53] Speaker A: There was one guy that wasn't. Yeah, they're all acid. There was one guy who was an actor, this older man, and he was like the best at improv. He was the best because he was just like. Oh, he would just react and it was. He was really Good. [00:13:03] Speaker B: Well, you know what they say, Johnny. All good acting is reacting. [00:13:08] Speaker A: It's true. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:10] Speaker A: That's why I paid all that money for it. To learn school. Well, I paid. [00:13:15] Speaker B: I was. I was a little shit about it when I was an actual college student. But, like, those. Those people that, like, they've lived the life and then they're. They're coming back and they're like, you know, I've learned a lot of stuff, but maybe I should get a little bit of formal. Formal casing around this so that way I can, you know, make sure that I'm doing things to the best of my ability. Those people are always very good at what they're doing, Johnny. So it doesn't surprise me that the old non actorman in your improv class was one of the best? [00:13:44] Speaker A: No, he was great. And the guy who was, like, into acting and, like, was terrible. There's one guy who, like, really wanted to be an improv or. Man, he was awful. And like, he would. He would, like. He'd, like, walk out and be like. I remember one time he walked out, he's like, hello, I'm Mr. Peanut. And my laser. My monocle has a laser on it. Pew. And I was just like, what? [00:14:05] Speaker B: Then the next person should have been a doctor and been like, I'm a doctor with one of those weird mirror things over my eye. Oh, no. The laser went back to Dr. Peanut. Oh, no, he's dry roasted. Johnny. [00:14:16] Speaker A: See, this is great. This is improv. We're doing it. Yes, and let's. Yes. And your introduction to these issues and stop talking about bad improv and start talking about good spawn. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Good spawn is definitely the way to describe it, Johnny. Holy shit. [00:14:33] Speaker A: It's good. [00:14:34] Speaker B: It's good. It's good. And you know what else is exceptionally good about them, Johnny? The covers of this spawn number 43 here. Do you have. Do you have the A cover? [00:14:47] Speaker A: I do. [00:14:48] Speaker B: Oh, man, that is a beautiful cover. [00:14:50] Speaker A: They covers by Marciel Toledano Vargas, and it is classic King Spawn stuff. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah, indeed. It's spawn there. He's. He's like, kneeling to be coronated. So he's got his. His flaming green necroplasmic swords like a. Like a staff in front of him, and he's got his head bowed. And the flaming. The flaming king spawn crown is slowly being lowered onto his head by chains. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Or it's being held from him. [00:15:24] Speaker B: That's true. [00:15:25] Speaker A: One of the two, huh? I think it's being lowered. [00:15:29] Speaker B: It's amazing. Holy crap. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's Cool. It's very classic. Evokes those early days of King Spawn, all that imagery they used to use. [00:15:37] Speaker B: It's like a. It's. It's like a colorful version of a puppeteer Lee because it's got that one really strong light source, and so it's all. It's all shadow. And where puppeteer Lee likes to keep everything kind of monotone and muted, this is just like as full of color as you can get with that single, single strong light source. [00:15:57] Speaker A: It's crazy to think that we've been reading king swan for 43 months now. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Shit. How old is that? If this were a child, how old would that be? [00:16:08] Speaker A: That's like 24, 36. [00:16:10] Speaker B: Yeah, three and a half years. [00:16:11] Speaker A: Almost four. Yeah, three and a half. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Good Lord. Yeah. Cause 48 would be four. [00:16:17] Speaker A: Just feels like a new comic to me. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it still does. Oh, that's. That's weird, Johnny. Yeah, man. You know, five years always goes by so fast, you know? [00:16:27] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:16:27] Speaker B: You don't think about it now. [00:16:30] Speaker A: We get all fucking anxious. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Five years. I mean, that's what the. That's what the whole point of that show, the last five years is about, right? [00:16:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't want to talk about that show. It's, like, really sad about divorce and shit, man. It's like the saddest show ever. [00:16:47] Speaker B: It's also about that one dude just being a jag off the whole time. [00:16:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it is about that. [00:16:52] Speaker B: So. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Wow. Last five years, I have. [00:16:58] Speaker B: I have the B cover, the. Ooh, yeah. The kolak. The miracle kolak cover. And it is Spawn standing. You know, he's doing his. His gargoyle bit, but it looks like he's standing on, like, a. A chimney. That's the only remaining piece of a torn down building. And I can't tell if that is like a. A stone grotesque that he's standing. Oh, I guess he's standing on it. So it has to be a stone grotesque. And he's just standing there with his cape flapping in the wind. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. You got the city lights below him. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Yeah, just spread out. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Pretty cool. [00:17:34] Speaker B: The sky is a beautiful, like, weird, hazy. Like it's like the inside of a cloud when it's a foggy day. Oh, it's great. It's great cover. Great cover. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Being on an airplane on a foggy day. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:50] Speaker A: We pop these babies open. [00:17:51] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:17:52] Speaker A: We got the credits. Script plot by Rory McConville, art by Yildirae Sennaar and Dudu Pansika inks by. [00:18:01] Speaker B: Julio Ferreira on those Pansika pages there. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Specifically on those Pansika pages. Specifically color by Ivan Nunes, lettering by and World Design. We already covered the covers. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Creative Director is Todd McFarlane, and Editor in Chief is Mr. Thomas Healy. [00:18:24] Speaker B: I bet Thomas Healy's pretty good at improv. Bet he would be fun to do a scene with. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Sure. [00:18:30] Speaker B: You have a lot of arcane knowledge to bring forward. Although you also run the risk of he might accidentally. Accidentally summon an actual demon. [00:18:40] Speaker A: He might summon a Cthulhu. [00:18:42] Speaker B: Depending on how well the scene is going, might be an improvement. [00:18:46] Speaker A: That's true. [00:18:47] Speaker B: That's a good escape clause. Just summon an Eldritch being and then, you know, you don't have to worry about it. [00:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah. When that guy was talking about Mr. Peanut, I wish I could have. Previously in King Spawn. Spawn's discussion with Agent lynch leads to the whereabouts of one of the missing children. Also, I was thinking FBI agent, kind of weird, spooky stuff going on. You think this is a. Think Agent Lynch? Little nod to David lynch and Twin Peaks? [00:19:20] Speaker B: What? I don't know what you're talking about, Johnny. It's Gordon. [00:19:25] Speaker A: I don't know. Maybe. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Man, I love David Lynch's Agent Gordon. Twin Peaks is amazing, Johnny. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I need to watch it all. [00:19:36] Speaker B: I'm gonna. I'm gonna assume that anytime that you can guess that there's going to be a David lynch homage, that we should say it's a David lynch homage, because. Okay, man, man, man has tendrils everywhere, so. [00:19:49] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'm gonna believe it. Agent lynch is a David lynch nod. And we open on a young man in an interrogation room in a police. [00:19:57] Speaker B: Station, and he's being talked to by Professor X. Lex Luthor is who I was thinking of. [00:20:06] Speaker A: He looks like Lex Luthor. Professor X. Yeah, one of the two. But he's basically, like, explaining to this kid that while you're at a sleepover, someone came to your house and murdered your brother and, well, murdered your parents and abducted your brother. This is a flashback, obviously, to when William. 25 years ago, when the current child murders that have been happening as of last issue originated or not originated. But there was another instance of them. [00:20:34] Speaker B: Yes, that. That Agent lynch specifically told Spawn about in the last issue. [00:20:40] Speaker A: So, yeah, he operates. This Wraith guy operates like the Blair Witch. He does something every, like, 20 years regular. That was the mythology. Until they, like. It was like 60 years, and then they, like, fucked it up by making all those sequels that came out directly after. [00:20:53] Speaker B: But some. How dare. How dare they ruin the. [00:20:57] Speaker A: They should have said Blair Witch 2. 60 years in the future. It should have been set in like 20. 60. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Waited. Waited 60 years to make it. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Yeah, because in the original lore it was like every 60 or 80 years something happened. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Either that or while they were waiting for that sequel to happen 60 years in the future, they could have gone back and done the previous 60 years and then the previous years like they're doing with the Predator movies. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun as hell. I love it. I'm here for it. [00:21:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm glad Dan Trashenberg's back. He's a good director and I really liked Prey, so that's good. What's it called? Predator, Badlands, something like that. [00:21:32] Speaker B: I'm just. I'm just excited to see him fuck up a whole bunch of old timey guys. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that Prey was good. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's real good. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Dan Trachtenberg, good director. He directed 10 Cloverfield Lane. [00:21:46] Speaker B: That's the one with John Goodman. Mm. Okay. I haven't seen that one, but I've heard. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:21:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I've heard it's Rules. [00:21:52] Speaker A: That movie's great. Justin Haley's in it. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Really? [00:21:56] Speaker A: No, there's a guy who just reminds me of Justin Haley. He's got like a baseball hat and like, I don't know, he just reminds me of Justin in that movie. [00:22:04] Speaker B: It would be awesome if I wrote. [00:22:06] Speaker A: The play of that movie, which it very much feels like something I would write if I were to play out of that. Justin Haley would have played the part if we were in college. [00:22:13] Speaker B: Largely single location, impending dread everywhere that you look. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:22:18] Speaker B: That feels very Johnny. [00:22:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's my mo. If it works, it works. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's your voice. You use it. [00:22:28] Speaker A: No, but Tank Loaf your lane. Like I would highly recommend it now that I'm gonna give you a Blu Ray player when I see you. I can let you borrow it if you want. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. I mean, if you just. If you just make it a package deal, then I could. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Maybe I'll just bring it. [00:22:39] Speaker B: I don't even have to wait us to meet up again. [00:22:43] Speaker A: Would you be more likely to watch the Ghost concert if I blunt you? The Blu Ray? [00:22:47] Speaker B: Probably. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Instead of having to go online to. [00:22:50] Speaker B: Use a code instead of having to find my way back through it. [00:22:54] Speaker A: Yeah, well, like you have to download like some concert streaming app or something. I can't remember what. It's not even on a regular service. [00:23:01] Speaker B: They do that for. There's every. Every couple of years, Wanda buys a new version of Phantom of the Opera live at Albert hall, because it's her favorite thing in the whole goddamn world. And, like, every few years, they change the platform that you can watch it on. So even though she's bought it, like, four times, invariably they're gonna switch how you can access it. [00:23:25] Speaker A: I watched half of that the other night. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:23:28] Speaker A: I had a musical day. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Ooh. [00:23:30] Speaker A: I started out by listening to Les Miserables. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Oh, nice. Nice. [00:23:34] Speaker A: Then I listened to Jekyll and Hyde. [00:23:36] Speaker B: Oh, nice. My dad loved Jekyll and Hyde. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Jekyll and I was good. [00:23:41] Speaker B: That cd, like, never left his. His CD player at his car. It was amazing. [00:23:45] Speaker A: Oh, nice. No, I love Jekyll and Hyde. It's really fun. I saw it in Tulsa in the 90s. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Yep, me too. And they had the. They had the little pins shaped like syringes with the wet red liquid in them. [00:23:54] Speaker A: I bought one. [00:23:55] Speaker B: I got one of those free at a drug conference a couple of years after that, so. [00:23:59] Speaker A: Oh, nice. I thought that was so cool. [00:24:02] Speaker B: It was awesome. [00:24:03] Speaker A: Well, I remember, like, in the play, like, the vial that he would inject himself with light up. [00:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:09] Speaker A: And, like, it would go black and you just see the red glowing. [00:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it was awesome. That was back. My mom forced us to read Jekyll and Hyde. Like, anytime we were gonna go see a movie or a musical like that based off of something classic, she would make us read the original source text. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Hey, luckily it's only, like, 100 pages. That's a thin one. [00:24:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was also way above my reading level at that time, so she just read it to us in the car. Like, I think we. I think we had a couple of months before that. Got up to visit my grandparents, and that was a 600 mile drive, so there was a lot of. A lot of downtime. [00:24:47] Speaker A: You read some Jekyll and Hyde. Yeah. Then I listened to Jekyll and Hyde, and then I listened to Phantom. And then I got halfway through that, I was like, why am I listening to this when I could live it? [00:24:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:56] Speaker A: And I went on Apple, and I bought the Live at Royal Albert hall for $12.99 or whatever it was. And I watched most of that until I started getting sleepy. But I'll probably finish it up in the next few days. [00:25:08] Speaker B: Very nice. Very nice. So is that your preferred over the Joel schumacher? [00:25:13] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. 100%. I mean, the Joel Schumacher movie, it's. [00:25:17] Speaker B: It's lush. It is. It is rococo. [00:25:22] Speaker A: They just make some changes that I don't like. I don't like that the chandelier falls at the end because it kind of, like, robs the first act of its weight at the end. I don't like that they show how the Phantom does everything because, like, in the stage show, like, someone just dies or, like, her voice stops working. But in the movie, they show them, like, switching out her water or they show him, like, going creeping around and getting the guy. See, they show the behind the scenes. [00:25:48] Speaker B: I love. I love that shit. [00:25:50] Speaker A: No, I prefer Just like it to Happen. It's a little more mysterious. But I'm also a big fan of the book. And in the book, he's, like, almost magical and borders on, like, magic, but it's all illusions and stuff. But it's definitely my preferred version. I do like the casting in the. Joel Schumacher, like, obviously. Patrick Wilson. Great choice. [00:26:12] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Gerard Butler. [00:26:13] Speaker A: Amy Rossum is very good. Gerard Butler. [00:26:17] Speaker B: Hey. I mean. I mean, if. If you're gonna choose somebody to do some vile shit, you might as well have somebody who's very nice to look at. [00:26:26] Speaker A: No, he looks hot, but, like, his voice. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah, he's not the. He's not the best singer, man. That's true. [00:26:33] Speaker A: He's okay. It's fine. It works. [00:26:35] Speaker B: He's better than me, but that's not saying much. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Oh, boy. [00:26:39] Speaker B: It's like. [00:26:39] Speaker A: I mean, it works. It's just. I don't know. Yeah, I. I really like the managers in that movie. They're very good. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Because they got the. They got legends. Scrap metal. That guy. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's from the Phantom of the Opera. It's where. Because when they're talking about where they got their money from and they're like, oh, you're the junk boys. And he's like, scrap metal. [00:27:06] Speaker A: Yeah. No, the manager is really good. Yeah, I mean, I like it. It's just. I prefer the stage version. [00:27:14] Speaker B: I mean, that's. That's. Johnny, I'm here to tell you that's perfectly excellent. [00:27:21] Speaker A: You were allowed to have your preferences twisted every way. What answer can I give? Am I to risk my life to find a chance to live in this, the Phantom's opera? [00:27:38] Speaker B: Let's see. [00:27:39] Speaker A: That part's been stuck in my head since I watched it. [00:27:41] Speaker B: It's hard to imagine somebody actually wrote that. That sounds kind of like. I think that's a lot of. My problem with Andrew Lloyd Webber is a lot of his stuff seems kind of like, first pass, and then he was like, just it. Put it to music. It's fine. I was like, man, this Is so long. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Wow. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Hot take. Andrew Lloyd Webber. Not my favorite. [00:28:01] Speaker A: That. The. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Not my favorite. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Well, he didn't even write the lyrics for Cat, so. He didn't write. He doesn't really write lyrics. But his lyricists probably like his stuff with Tim Rice. You probably like the older stuff. [00:28:14] Speaker B: Why should you want to know? Yeah, because Jesus Christ Superstar is a fucking banger. So. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's Tim Rice. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Yeah, Go Tim's. But all that to say, Johnny, is there. There ain't no singing in this book. It's, it's just. No, it's just young Agent lynch being talked to by this very intense man. [00:28:33] Speaker A: And he says, we think we've covered a pretty strong lead. Which means the, this points to the one who did this. You. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And like as he says you, he stands up and like he gets the, he gets like the, the shadowy white, bright white lights of bad guy or evil spirit. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Yes. And he kind of transforms like a vampire esque being. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Come on, William, admit it. This is all your fault. You killed them. And then after, after this being screams that Agent lynch just wakes up in a cold sweat. You ever wake up in a cold sweat? [00:29:16] Speaker A: It was a dream, a nightmare, one might say. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And it has been 25 years since William lynch, when Lynch's life was changed or was forever destroyed. Johnny. So he's, he's, he's, he's reliving, reliving past experience. But also it's got a little, it's got a little English on it. [00:29:37] Speaker A: It. Yeah. And he's kind of like living in his apartment. You kind of get a sense he's depressed. He's got like dishes piling up. He made some spaghetti, he hasn't cleaned up. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. He's just got like garbage on the table that he's eating around. And then he's looking, he's looking through like a box of personal stuff that he has. It's got like pictures of him and his family before they were killed. And he's just sitting there like wondering what the world would have been like if his parents and his brother hadn't died that night 25 years ago. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Oh, man, this is very. This is very scorched. 38. Johnny. Oh man. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Yes. Just staring at the photo, crying. [00:30:22] Speaker B: There's lots of, there's lots of, lots of, you know, regret over the lack of family members. Futures in spawn writ large lately. [00:30:35] Speaker A: Lately. Yeah. He's wonders what his parents would have done. He wonders what kind of man his brother would have been. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:43] Speaker A: But we learn as he's going to work in the narration. That media just got distracted and then they threw it away. Didn't pay any attention to it. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And then not only. Not only did the media get distracted and throw it away, but then, like, officially, officially, the actual fate of his family has been, you know, officially changed, as we learned in the last issue. [00:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And then Petey, our friend Petey runs up to him. [00:31:15] Speaker B: Oh, man, Petey's got. Petey is maintaining that little lock of hair on the front. [00:31:25] Speaker A: I had a dog named Petey. [00:31:26] Speaker B: It would be easier to just cut that hair, that little lock of hair off, but he keeps it for some reason. A dog named Petey? [00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Named after the Little Rascal. [00:31:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that was his name. We adopted him. We just kept it nice. He was a little miniature schnauzer. Miniature black schnauzer. [00:31:41] Speaker B: Oh, man, I love a little. I love a dog with a beard. Can you imagine, Johnny? I love a dog with a beard. Here I motion to my. My beard to the. [00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he is a good little schnauzer. [00:31:51] Speaker B: Nice. I saw. I saw like, a mix between a basset hound and a schnauzer yesterday. And it was. He looked so goofy, but he looked so cute. [00:32:03] Speaker A: That's funny. [00:32:03] Speaker B: It's like this big, long guy with floppy skin and just scruffy with a big beard. It was awesome. [00:32:09] Speaker A: And then Petey tells Lynch that they found some of those missing kids. [00:32:16] Speaker B: And. Oh, man, he's like, they what? [00:32:19] Speaker A: What the hell? [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that. We. We. We learned. We learned that this is maybe a false. Spoilers for a couple of pages from now, but this is. This is good acting on Lynch's part. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Yes. [00:32:35] Speaker B: And Petey's like, yeah, they just, like, they just. They dropped the kid off just like, right at the doorstep. And so they got him talking to, like, the. The therapists, and they're. They're trying to know, calm him down and figure out as much as they can from him. [00:32:48] Speaker A: Do I realize how egregious his little lock of hair is? He looks like TV's Frank from Mystery Science Theater 2000. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's. It's ridiculous. It's a. It's a choice, and we love a choice. [00:33:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a choice just having one lock of hair. Your bald head. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's right there. It's like my. My grandfather had a comb over for the longest time until, like, literally one day his barber's hand slipped and just cut it off. And then he was like, holy shit, I look like 12 years younger. And then from then on, no more combover. [00:33:24] Speaker A: Nice. [00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah, man. My grandfather was the coolest motherfucker. [00:33:29] Speaker A: Little Combo Ray. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. He was pretty awesome. I. I do. I do enjoy seeing a combover in the wild for. For my own personal giggles, but nobody. [00:33:44] Speaker A: I see one in a long time. [00:33:45] Speaker B: Nobody should come over. Just don't. You're drawing more attention to it instead of hiding it. Embrace. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Embrace the bald, says the man with the luscious hair. [00:33:56] Speaker B: I'm. I'm going to have to embrace the bald one of these days, I'm pretty sure. So when it happens, you can. You. You can bet your sweet bippy that I'm just going to be like, there it is. I'm going to shine it up to a nice polish. Now. That's too much work. I'm not going to shine it up. [00:34:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've got hair, but it's definitely thinner. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Who knows? I don't know what my mom's. My. My mom's dad looked like, so I don't know what I'm cruising toward. [00:34:25] Speaker A: My mom's dad had hair most of his life, so. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Nice. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Grandpa Jack. Most people say I look like him, and then we have the same name, John. So. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Grandpa Jack. [00:34:35] Speaker A: He had good hair. I'm gonna keep that hair. [00:34:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna keep that hair. And then while Petey's, you know, talking to lynch and, like, being like, I just can't imagine what this kid went through, we cut out to. I mean, I thought this guy's name was Wraith, but this is. This is apparently not Wraith. It's just. [00:34:53] Speaker A: Do you have the previous issue handy? [00:34:55] Speaker B: It's across the. [00:34:56] Speaker A: It definitely, definitely says it Revenant. [00:35:00] Speaker B: It's Revenant standing on the top of the building across the street with his wild eye and his weirdly cybernetic arm. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Yep. He's about to unleash hell on that police station. [00:35:14] Speaker B: Yeah, he is. And then. And then we cut to Al Simmons tromping through the sewers, doing some thinking. He's like the Wraith, squeezing information out of people, trying to find out who this guy is. And he's. He's. He's been having trouble getting information on this Wraith guy. Joni. Yeah, so. So he. [00:35:38] Speaker A: He decides to visit. He says it's, you know, 25 years ago is the last time he was active. And he said with the turnover on of Heaven and Hell, probably no one remembers, but he knows somebody that will. [00:35:48] Speaker B: Probably remember somebody who's been in hiding for at least that long. And then. Then he comes up. He comes up to a small section of the sewer that is just like. It's like carpeted in bones. And then there's just like. Like a Smeagol esque silhouette. A little Gollum. Gollum hanging out there. And as. As Al approaches and starts asking questions, the vampire that it is rises to his full height. And his name is Ichabod. And he says he doesn't have a. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Penis like the Nosferatu does. [00:36:27] Speaker B: Sad. He's probably having a sad time down there, I guess. So how is he supposed to. How is he supposed to like, just like, get through boredom without a penis? Johnny? [00:36:37] Speaker A: I don't know, David. [00:36:40] Speaker B: That's what you do. [00:36:40] Speaker A: You're waiting at the dmv. [00:36:41] Speaker B: How's he supposed to just like fill up the minutes that are empty? Yeah, at the dmv. But. So Al starts. Al starts. You know, they. Apparently there's a. There's a. Obviously a slightly contentious but not fully anim. Animistic animosity. [00:37:05] Speaker A: You know what you mean? [00:37:05] Speaker B: Not. Not a lot of animus between them. Although they are a little. A little. They bump against each other. Spawn and Ichabod. Apparently. Spawn, I'm going to assume Spawn helped Ichabod in a great way at some point in the past. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Yes. [00:37:21] Speaker B: So. So Ichabod. Ichabod eventually is just like, fine, sure. How'd you. How'd you even hear this guy's name? Spawn says he's murdering kids. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Ichabod's like, yeah, yeah, he likes you. Child sacrifices. Duh. [00:37:35] Speaker B: It's like, that's. That's what this guy fucking does. Tell me something I don't know. And Ichabod says that he first heard the name mentioned about 300 years ago. [00:37:44] Speaker A: 300 spawns ago. [00:37:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Ichabod's not entirely sure if he's a vampire. He's like, I don't. I don't. I don't know what he is. But he's like, you know what? You don't want to get on the Wraith's bad side. And that's probably, you know, with a name like the Wraith, I have a feeling that's probably very true. [00:37:58] Speaker A: Yeah. He's like, why haven't I heard of him? He's like, well, because he didn't want you to. The ones with true power don't need to stomp and shout. But rest assured, when he wants to make his presence known, you'll know it. [00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah, and. [00:38:10] Speaker A: And there's a. Dude. There's A agent walking down the hallway. [00:38:12] Speaker B: Yeah, just like a dark hallway in the FBI building. And then, like, he turns the corner and he's like, oh. And then at that. That's the last thing he ever sees, Johnny. Is that that hallway he turns down? Because then he gets a fist to the face. Right to the face. And then it's like. It's smashed against the wall and it's. Oh, boy. [00:38:33] Speaker A: His eyeballs popping out. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, boy, it is. It is gross. And like his. His teeth are all popping out and. Whoo. [00:38:41] Speaker A: This is one punch. He's one punch, man. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he's one scrunch, man. [00:38:46] Speaker A: He did get scrunched. [00:38:48] Speaker B: Scrunch. Revenant turns around and he's got a bloody fist. And there's just like a bloody spot on the wall behind him. And then Revenant starts running towards where all the people are. And we get like an intercom. Attention, attention. Hostel on the floor. [00:39:05] Speaker A: Actually, we get a uncensored fuck here, David. Yeah, we got a fucking hostile on the floor. And they didn't censor. [00:39:11] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:39:11] Speaker A: They censored the other fucks in this issue. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. I guess that's the. I guess that's the fuck they give. [00:39:17] Speaker A: That is the fuck they give. It's like PG13 rules, and it can't be direct reference to sex. [00:39:23] Speaker B: And. And so all the FBI agents start, like, pulling out their. Pulling out their guns. And, you know, they're like, steal the perimeter, call swat. There's a breach. There's a breach. And lynch is just like. I gotta look like I'm surprised, huh? And then. And then we cut to Revenant just fucking these guys up. Shit. [00:39:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Stabbing in the chest, breaking skulls. [00:39:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Quantico punching through people. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Quantico didn't train these guys for this. Absolutely not that. [00:39:54] Speaker A: No. [00:39:55] Speaker B: He's, like, ripping heads off, ripping arms off. Yeah. Just like punching down doors, cutting people's heads off with bowie knives in one. One swipe. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:06] Speaker B: And then. And then Lynch. Lynch shoots him in the head to try to distract him. And he's like, you, get on the floor now. Like, he's gonna arrest this guy. And Revenant just, like, fights his way over to the room that they were keeping this. This. This rescued child in. And the little rescue child is cowering before Revenant and says, no, not again. But luckily, Revenant is throwing a shadow over this little. Little young child boy, Johnny. And what do we know Spawn likes to do with shadows? [00:40:37] Speaker A: Shadow blast. [00:40:38] Speaker B: It's a shadow blast. So we Shadow Blast this child somewhere that we don't know. And then in his place, Spawn just comes out and wraps Revenant up in all these chains. And he's just like. It's a real good. It's a real good page here, Johnny. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I love that. And Revenant looks shocked and his eyeballs, like, bugging. [00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And Spawn's eyes are doing the green smoke. And then we cut back to the night before where we've got lynch and Spawn talking in the alley. And Spawn's like, hey, here's the plan. And lynch is like, are you stupid? What are you. Yeah. [00:41:11] Speaker A: He's like, we're gonna use this kid. [00:41:13] Speaker B: As bait, or are you out of your goddamn mind? He says, so. So this is where we learned that lynch was in on the. The child was gonna go to the FBI headquarters as bait. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:41:24] Speaker B: To lure Revenant out, which is why he was like, oh, my God, this child. [00:41:30] Speaker A: What? [00:41:31] Speaker B: Lynch doesn't like the idea, but Spawn's like, there's no how the fuck else she's spawning. This guy wants this child. You want this guy. You gotta slightly imperil this child. Spawns. Spawn's maybe taking a little bit of the. The logical. The logical pursuit of the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one. To maybe a bit of an extreme. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Yes. It's also the classic fan of the opera plan where they put Christine Daae in the opera. Chris. So the Phantom will come. [00:42:04] Speaker B: Christy. Because. Yeah, because the Phantom doesn't. He's. He thinks Carlotta's all washed up. Yeah, She's. [00:42:10] Speaker A: He's not gonna miss him before. For riff. Ms. Dae sings. He is certain to attend. We make sure the doors are barred. We make certain the men are there. We make certain they're armed. The curtain falls. His reign will end. Yes, that's his plan. [00:42:27] Speaker B: That's a good one. That's a good one. That was. That was beautiful, Johnny. [00:42:30] Speaker A: Like, oh, thank you. [00:42:31] Speaker B: No, no, no. All jokes aside, that was. That was good, man. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Okay, thank you. [00:42:36] Speaker B: I always get. I always get confused on the order of the. The plan. I always. I always jump to the men are armed before I even get to the men. [00:42:46] Speaker A: Love that. Yeah. So it's a fan of the opera plan. You get the young gun kid in the FBI and you get Revenant to come get him. And then you spring the trap on Revenant. [00:42:54] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:42:55] Speaker A: That's the plan. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Anyway, that's the plan. And that's what they do. And then halfway through this Conversation, Johnny, is when the switch to Pensika happens. [00:43:04] Speaker A: Yeah, you can definitely. Yeah, you can tell. [00:43:06] Speaker B: Oh man, it is yilderay sonar. Fantastic. Pansika. Fantastic in entirely different ways. Like the. The sennaar has. Has that. That weight and that gravitas and that grittiness. But the Pasika is very ethereal. It's. It's much like creepier and ookier and a bit more comic booky. So because like, as people are moving, their proportions don't stay fully the same. It's a great. A bit of exaggeration. Like, as so very quickly after the art change, we go from this past conversation between lynch and Spawn back to the fight between Spawn and Revenant. And I like how when Spawn or Revenant punch each other, their arm is just like, like super, super, super long. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it's awesome. [00:43:59] Speaker B: It's so cool. [00:44:01] Speaker A: Bam. [00:44:02] Speaker B: I also like that Pansika takes us to original Spawn costume, which Sanaara did not give us earlier. And it's a. It's hard to. It's hard to argue with the classic Spawn costume, Johnny. Al Simmons is just. He's just eaten Revenant's lunch. And then he like ties them up in his chains and then. And then uses. Uses. How long has Al Simmons been able to read minds, Johnny? I don't know, but he's using. He's using like his. His Beta Zed powers to. To read the. The mind and the thoughts of Revenant. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Kylo Ren. Reading Rey's mind. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:45] Speaker A: In the Force Awakens, we get the. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Opening reading and Al Simmons knows this guy won't talk, so he's going to have to take that information by force. And so he sees like, images of cloaked figures surrounded by dead bodies engulfed in flames, and a whole bunch of young boys and the similar cloaks to like, what the one that Spawn Andy was found in. [00:45:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:12] Speaker B: And then like, Spawn goes deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper. And then Revan is not having a good time. He's foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog. [00:45:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:22] Speaker B: And Spawn says something's wrong. And then. And then Revenant just like. Like Wilham screams himself to death here. [00:45:32] Speaker A: And it like explodes Spawn's mind. [00:45:34] Speaker B: Yeah, a little. [00:45:35] Speaker A: His head smoking. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Oh, man. Well, he's got it. He's got it. That's. That's like the repairs going on. The Necropolis plasm, putting it all back together. [00:45:44] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:45] Speaker B: But. But there was. There was a booby trap inside of this mind that somebody had laid for Spawn. And it it's hurt Spawn, but hasn't killed him. But Revenant wasn't so lucky. [00:45:55] Speaker A: He did. [00:45:56] Speaker B: He did. He did. [00:45:59] Speaker A: If the Wraith thinks that would trap. Would stop Spawn, well, then he's about to find out he's one of the gravest mistakes of his life. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:06] Speaker A: To be continued. [00:46:08] Speaker B: Continued. And then we get Spawn King Spawn Crown. The end of the issue. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Pretty fun. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yep. And then we get some spawning ground presents, the mailbag. And we get some. Some fan art. I don't. I don't. Johnny, I have a problem with what Thomas Healy said here. Says great, great fan art from Danny P. I think it's unnecessary to say great fan art because we could see that it's great fan art. I could have just said fan art. [00:46:37] Speaker A: From Danny P. I guess you're right. [00:46:40] Speaker B: But I guess he does have to editorialize because he is the editor in chief, so. But no, it's. It's some fucking great. It's a fucking great fan art. It's a Spawn against a brick wall. It's got a nice stylized spawn title. He's just, like, hanging out in the alley. There's a nice fuck you written on the wall. It's real. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Just go back. Go back. Just a bunch of graffiti. Yeah. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it's real good. [00:47:07] Speaker A: We've got a letter from Spencer who's just saying thank you for doing an awesome job with the Swan books and their consistency. He really likes Rory writing Swan. [00:47:16] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:47:16] Speaker A: You agree? [00:47:17] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. He really liked king spawn 40 and 41, which. Hell, yeah, we did too. Yeah. And sounds like we need to get Spencer on to. We need to get Spencer to write into us, tell us what he loves most about Sponsor on so he can read it. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And Thomas thanks him for his kind words, and he's like, hell, yeah. If you like what Rory's done so far, just you wait. So, yeah. Ooh, Johnny, I can't wait. I can't wait. [00:47:47] Speaker A: We get another letter from Troy H. And he wants to get this work he did into the spawning grounds. He basically did the inks and acrylics over gray Capoulos pencils. [00:47:56] Speaker B: And it is. It is incredible. Look at that. Look at that stuff. And then. And then Thomas Healy is like, yeah, yeah. Greg's work on Spawn is. Is pretty good. It might be the best. So might be some fighting words there between the Tom father and the Todd father. Like, maybe. Could you imagine being in the office when Thomas Healy's writing that? Yeah. Greg Capullo might do the best Spawn artwork. Of all time. And then Todd. Todd McFarlane walks in and is like, what you talk about, Thomas, what the. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Hell are you saying? What the hell are you saying about me? [00:48:33] Speaker B: I made Spawn. I created Spawn. [00:48:37] Speaker A: I made Spawn. We got the new figure. [00:48:41] Speaker B: Need more Spawns, universe, Johnny. [00:48:44] Speaker A: Always. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Then don't miss these ongoing titles. And unfortunately, Johnny, this page is making me real Sad. Because specifically, Gunslinger 42 came out this week. And I know the rule is when there's a Bjorn Barrens covered, you get the Bjorn Barrens cover. Yeah, but there were three covers to Gunslinger this week, and one of them was so awesome, and I knew you weren't gonna get it because it wasn't cover A that I had to forego the Bjorn Barons cover because look at that. It's Javi on his fire steed. How cool is that? [00:49:19] Speaker A: That's pretty cool. [00:49:20] Speaker B: That just means that it had to have been a super excellent cover for me to forego this badass Bjorn Baron's cover. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm excited to see it. [00:49:28] Speaker B: We'll talk about that when we get there, though. Teaser for a few episodes from now. [00:49:33] Speaker A: Teaser, teaser. [00:49:35] Speaker B: We get the Image Classics ad. And then, Johnny, somebody is advertising some toys here. The back. [00:49:45] Speaker A: I love how toy's got layers, David. [00:49:47] Speaker B: I love how scandalized the dragon looks. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Yeah, because she's about to. [00:49:51] Speaker B: Donkey. [00:49:53] Speaker A: That's right. We got the Shrek toy ad again with Shrek side eyeing the dragon. The horny dragon. Are you thinking about the dragon? What are you doing? [00:50:00] Speaker B: No, somebody from work just called, so I had to tell them that I wasn't in yet. They're leaving a voicemail now, so. But yeah, yeah. [00:50:08] Speaker A: So I thought you're getting horny for the dragon. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Oh, I mean, who isn't, Johnny? [00:50:14] Speaker A: Not Donkey. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Donkey definitely is. The way. The way Shrek is staring, it looks like there's a little bit of a tension there. [00:50:22] Speaker A: A little love triangle. [00:50:23] Speaker B: You can imagine. A little. [00:50:31] Speaker A: I'm losing all that. [00:50:34] Speaker B: Careless Whisper, Johnny. [00:50:36] Speaker A: It's so high pitched that Zoom couldn't pick it up. [00:50:38] Speaker B: I'm Never Gonna Dance Again. Yeah, it's a great song. It's. It's literally become a joke now. But it's a good song, John. [00:50:51] Speaker A: I mean, most good songs that become jokes are good, you know, this is a good song. Never Gonna Give youe Up. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Oh, and why is that? Because it's a good song. [00:51:01] Speaker A: It's a good song. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good song. [00:51:03] Speaker A: Never gonna give you. And it's a joke. [00:51:06] Speaker B: It happens. Sometimes good things turn into jokes. [00:51:09] Speaker A: A lot Of Frank Zappa songs are jokes. And they're good. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Well, those started as jokes. [00:51:13] Speaker A: Those are intentional jokes. [00:51:14] Speaker B: Those are intentional jokes. That's a man. Frank Zappa was a demanding motherfucker. When he knew what he wanted, he put the composition together and you goddamn better play it fucking perfect. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard some tales. [00:51:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it's why. That's why at the In a Little Green Rosetta, the last track on Joe's Garage, he starts making fun of all the musicians. And then he's like, okay, they're. They're pretty good musicians because they. They do what he asks in real time. Man, I couldn't imagine. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Well, that's king spawn 43. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:51:50] Speaker A: On to the next. [00:51:51] Speaker B: On to the next. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Next up we have scorched 39. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:52:13] Speaker A: Feeling fine and feeling fine. And this cover is fine. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:52:19] Speaker A: Love this Raven Gay cover that. I got the A cover. [00:52:21] Speaker B: I also got the. The A cover because as everyone knows, we. We stand at Jessica Priest in this podcast. And while the B cover is also good, you gotta. You gotta take the cyberpunk. Jessica Priest. Johnny, look at this. [00:52:37] Speaker A: Yeah, this is awesome. Looks like she's in Cyberpunk 2049 or something. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Or like. Or like she's. It's like she's in Blade Runner and she's right next to the booth that Harrison Ford is eating some noodles at. [00:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it's amazing. It's really hard to talk about because it's just so fucking cool. It's just Jessica Priest standing next to her motorcycle on the cyberpunk alley. And she's got katanas and one of them is covered in blood. [00:53:03] Speaker A: I love the purple pink hues. [00:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And the neon. Man, I miss just a fuckton of neon signs. [00:53:14] Speaker A: One of the bars is called Cog's Corner. Little Cogliostro. That bastard. [00:53:21] Speaker B: Yeah. How dare he? And Jessica Priest just has. Has that. Just that. That right, that. That little smile she gets when she gets to some people up. [00:53:30] Speaker A: She just pleases punch. [00:53:32] Speaker B: She. It's. It's starting to feel more and more like she kind of regrets the fact that she gets, like fulfillment from. From fucking people up all the time. But it's. It's an intrinsic part of her, Johnny. She can't. She can't get rid of it. No, this. [00:53:47] Speaker A: She loves it. [00:53:47] Speaker B: Yeah, very much. This, this B cover, this Von Randall cover is also very good. It's got Flag Spawn on top of the. Sitting on top of a skull that has a pentagram drawn on its forehead. And then a crown of thorns. So. And then to either side of this be pentagrammed. Be crown of thorned skull. Behind Plague Spawn are literally what look like the skulls of some. Some late punkers with big spikes coming out. [00:54:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty cool. I just very spiky. Screams scorched to me as much as the first cover does. And, like, you know, Plague Spawn hasn't really factored into these for a bit now. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I was about to say, if this had been on, like, scorched, like 11 or so. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it would have been perfect. [00:54:41] Speaker B: Yeah, perfect, perfect. [00:54:42] Speaker A: But no, it's so great. I love how spiky it is. [00:54:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but. But you gotta get. You gotta get the Jessica Priest cover. [00:54:49] Speaker A: Gotta do it Cyberpunk. [00:54:52] Speaker B: And then, you know, you get the COVID and you gotta pop it open. Pop, pop. We got these credits that we get to give where they're due. We got the script plot by John Layman with additional script by Todd McFarlane. We got art by Steven Segovia. We got colors by Danai Ribeiro. We got lettering by Antworlds Design. We covered the covers. Creative director is Todd McFarlane. And the editor in chief is the Mr. Thomas Healy. [00:55:22] Speaker A: Oh, hello. Hello. [00:55:24] Speaker B: I tipped my cap to you. [00:55:26] Speaker A: Cheerio, old chap. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Previously in the Scorched. The team is still suffering from the events of Medieval Spawn's rescue. [00:55:37] Speaker A: Absolutely. They are. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Yeah, man, they are. They are reeling. Like. They're still reeling. This is. [00:55:42] Speaker A: They're suffering so much that Redeemer grew a beard. [00:55:44] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got a stress beard. Can you imagine if that was your stress response? Like, my stress response is just sweating. Could you imagine if it was, like, hair growth? I would just sit there and, like, you could see my beard getting bigger. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Get bigger and bigger as you get stressed out. [00:56:00] Speaker B: David, you okay over there? What are you talking about? Perfectly okay. No worries. [00:56:05] Speaker A: Perfectly fine here now. How are you? [00:56:09] Speaker B: I just, like, turn into cousin it. [00:56:14] Speaker A: I'm a stress sweater, too, actually. My hair gets, like, wild. Like, it starts to, like, stand up on end. If I get stressed out. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Interesting. Interesting. I. I lose all focus and I'm just, like, so not much different from normal, actually. [00:56:30] Speaker A: I don't like stress. [00:56:32] Speaker B: Yeah, Stress. Johnny. As the old ad advertisement said, stress stinks. [00:56:38] Speaker A: Yeah, Arid works. What was that for? [00:56:40] Speaker B: It was for arid. Arid deodorant. Yeah, Antiperspirant. [00:56:45] Speaker A: I need some of that. [00:56:46] Speaker B: And it had. It had, like, a whole bunch of people, like, changing tires on their car and stuff and being like, oh, so hot. And then somebody comes by with a stick of deodorant and they immediately fresh. [00:56:57] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. [00:56:57] Speaker B: You know, I haven't changed a tire in a very long time, but I remember there was a period of time where I was changing a tire on average, like, once every two weeks. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Really? [00:57:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Living. Living on a dirt road in Oklahoma means you get a lot of flat tires, I bet. Yeah, but that's not what we're here to talk about, Johnny. We're here about a prologue for months ago. And we've got Reaper. Reaper just like, post battle, just, like, slumped on the ground and just like one shaft of light hitting him. It's like the. It's like the. The map room from Raiders of the Last Ark shining right on, right on Reaper here. And Reaper's wondering who he is, how he got there. He's like, stuff doesn't make sense to me right now. And then Jim Downing's like, hey, condolences on not dying from Green World. This is about as far as I could take you, or else you will actually be killed by Green World, so don't waste your opportunity. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Yeah, so remember we last left him. Jim Downing took Reaper and was going to take him to Green World, but I guess they didn't like him. [00:58:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, the Green World didn't want him. That's sad, Johnny. I think if I were to approach the parliament of trees and be like, hey, can I be here with all you plants and shit? And they rejected me. I don't know what I would do. I would be so distraught. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Yeah, the plants reject you. [00:58:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Sad, but. So Reaper just, like, slowly rests, heals. His memories slowly return to him. And then he starts having, like, feverish dreams of the future. So he remembers who he is. He was Eddie Frank. He was the older brother to Andy. His sweet, doomed little brother. He's a victim at the hands of his father. He's a murderer and an orphan because he killed his abusive father. [00:58:59] Speaker A: That's like way back. Like spawn 60 or something. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Yeah, like, way, way, way back. Because, like, we first meet Eddie and andy and like, 23 or 4 or something like that. Something like that, yeah, because they come over. Are they caught up in the. I don't remember which part they're caught up in, but yeah, like, way, way, way back. And then, like, like Eddie. Eddie gets wrapped up in Spawn's world and, like, he becomes a spawn of pawn. A pawn of Spawn. [00:59:29] Speaker A: A pawn of Spawn. [00:59:30] Speaker B: And then he becomes Redeemer. And then he becomes Reaper after that. And there's a new. There's a new redeemer and you know, he was a part of the Scorched briefly. And we get like the classic lineup of Scorched. Got a little. Got a little. It's fucking. Javi's head isn't tall enough. It's looking a little bit like his hat. [00:59:54] Speaker A: He's a taller hat. [00:59:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Indeed. He starts having premonition dreams and he sees a wasteland, a cityscape in ruins and an earth with a moon with a giant chunk taken out of it. And just standing above it all by himself is Redeemer with a big book in his hand. I'm going to assume that's some kind of Bible. [01:00:15] Speaker A: It's the Spawn Bible. [01:00:18] Speaker B: And so with this vision, Reaper knows what he needs to do. And then end prologue. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Yes. [01:00:26] Speaker B: From there we cut to. Oh, Jesus, Johnny. We cut to. We cut to a workshop that has the pieces they could find of Overtkill just hanging around. Right, man. [01:00:39] Speaker A: An arm, the torso, the head. [01:00:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that. The. I like that. I'm going to assume that this cable here is actually like a fuel. A fuel cable because it looks like they got a fuel filter on them. And it's nice that they're. They're caring for his mechanical bits and not letting any. Any grit or grime get in. If they can avoid it, that's good. [01:00:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Oiling them up. [01:01:00] Speaker B: Oh, man. This. This Overkill head with just like his slack jaws. Terrifying. [01:01:08] Speaker A: And then someone's like, can you repair him or not? [01:01:10] Speaker B: And then we find out that it's Redeemer asking Mark. And Mark's like, I mean, it'll take a really long time, but you gotta, you gotta. You must have patience. [01:01:19] Speaker A: But Redeemer looks different. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Everybody was like, it doesn't have. We don't have a mat. He looks a lot like Constantine. [01:01:26] Speaker A: He just, he. He used to be like a blonde guy with no beard. [01:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:30] Speaker A: And now he's like a gray headed guy with a beard. [01:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And a big trench coat. [01:01:35] Speaker A: And literally last issue he was normal looking. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:38] Speaker A: I don't know why it happened. I don't know. I guess we'll find out. [01:01:42] Speaker B: People just liked it better that way. [01:01:44] Speaker A: I'm assuming to line it up with whoever his identity is. It's probably going to be revealed soon. It seems like. [01:01:49] Speaker B: Probably. It feels like we're going to get one of those Redeemer specific issues that they like to do for the Scorched. [01:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Feels like that's what it's building towards anyway. [01:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And Mark is Marcus here. He's. He's a Sad boy, you know, he's like. He's like, I'm so close to being made full again and I don't know if I want it. And I don't think, I don't think I should do it, but man, I feel like I need to. And Redeemer's like, mark, don't. Don't it. Just leave. Just leave Medieval alone. And Mark's like, but I need him. It's like a. It's almost like a. Like an addiction. An addiction metaphor here, Johnny. [01:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah, kind of. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Then Mark just like, like storms out of the room because he's got all of these emotions and all of these needs and all of these feelings building up in him. And so he goes back to his room and he finds the Medieval helmet. And he's like, God damn it, I don't care what anybody else thinks. I need him. And so he puts the helmet on and transforms from Mark risen to Medieval. And Medieval says, I have returned. [01:02:52] Speaker A: You have many thanks for that, for what happens next. My apologies. He took over Mark's body. [01:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And then we see Redeemer talking to haunt. And Redeemer's like, you think Medieval's back for good? And Daniel Kilgore is like, I'm going to assume Medieval's not going to give that body back. Yeah. And so Kilgore is worried about, you know, having lost Mark to this because without Mark, there's no glue to hold the scorched together. And they know that Medieval isn't a substitute for Mark. [01:03:28] Speaker A: No. [01:03:30] Speaker B: And that, that every. That the scorched is fragile as it is. Daniel Kilgore starts to, you know, express some concerns. And Redeema's like, yeah, yeah, shit's kind of all over the place. We all just need to, like, rest and regroup and, you know, figure out what we need to do and, you know, get there. And I don't understand why that induces Kilgore to haunt out and punch Redeemer. But it seems like everybody is very, very on edge in the scorched. And like, it's very easy for them to fracture. So it's just. Yeah, they're ready to fight some of this fragility coming out. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Basically. Kind of. He doesn't, I don't know, Kilgore just takes it wrong because he kind of says, we need to be clear minded. Yeah, we'll get some rest. And he's like, I am thinking clearly, and punches him. And it's like, jesus, dude. [01:04:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And Redeema is like, okay. All right, you get. I understand that your headspace is not good. You get that one. But touch me again. And then Kilgore starts, like, lashing out. And Redeemer is just, like, very easily. Is just, like, dodge. [01:04:34] Speaker A: He's doing, like, the Morpheus dodge. Yeah, he just, like, has his hand behind his back then. [01:04:38] Speaker B: And then Kilgore just, like, trump. Trumps away, and he's like, maybe I'm crazy. Just like Mark. Redeemer's just like, oh, boy. Redeemer's like. Like. Like a single father with just a whole bunch of children that he doesn't know how to connect with. Like, Like a recently single father. And he's like, ah, boy, what am I? What am I? What am I in? What has happened? So it goes over to Jessica's room and knocks on the door and is like, jessica, hey, Jessica, we need to talk. And then we see Jessica's as. As in last issue, Jessica Priest is not in a good place at all drinking her gin. She's on her second bottle. [01:05:20] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:05:20] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:05:21] Speaker A: Just crying. [01:05:22] Speaker B: And then Redeemer is just like, what the. What the hell is going on here? So everybody decides to go crazy at once. And then Medieval comes up, and Redeemer is like, what about you gonna fall apart, too? It's like, no. Like, what problems you got? And the Redeemer's like, okay, that's good. That's good. But you're gonna need to give us Mark Rosen back because he needs to fix. Fix over it. Kill. And Medieval's like, just like, no. He's like, you don't need that weakling or that cybernetic behemoth. I'm. I'm staying. You need me. Then this. This disagreement sort of escalates into swords. Like, yep. [01:06:08] Speaker A: Medieval pulls his sword. [01:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And so Redeemer just, like, suits up and is like, don't you. Don't you fucking pull a sword on me. And Redeemer's trying to remind Medieval of what he was as Sir John of York before he became just this hell being. He's like, have you forgotten your humanity? We're supposed to help people. And Medieval's like, yeah, but humanity is what got me killed, so I'm just not even going to bother about that anymore. He's witnessed enough slaughter in his life to know humans can't protect themselves. We have to do that for them. [01:06:44] Speaker A: They're just exchanging blows. Redeemer sends, like, a super beam. [01:06:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And then. And then Medieval sends his own super beam right back and is Like, I respect you, Redeemer. He says, I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to hurt you. But I've been betrayed too many times by those who once called me friend. I'll not deal with another traitor. [01:07:09] Speaker A: And then from someone off the panel yells, kill him. [01:07:13] Speaker B: And we turn the page and we see it's Reaper and his full body. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Eddie. [01:07:18] Speaker B: He's looking good. He's looking good. And Eddie's like. Or better yet, step aside and let me have the pleasure of killing him. You see, he's been lying to you, keeping the truth from you. About what? What about who he is and what he's done? If we don't kill him now, Redeemer is going to destroy the world. What? [01:07:37] Speaker A: With that beard? [01:07:38] Speaker B: Oh, man. I mean, you know, sometimes. Sometimes the. Sometimes the beard can be for evil and not for good. Sad. [01:07:46] Speaker A: That's true. Jason Winsbeard in the Spawn movies is made for evil and black hair dye. [01:07:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. And his clove cigarettes. [01:07:54] Speaker A: Yep. [01:07:56] Speaker B: And that gives us Spawn Skull to. Or Scorch Skull to end the issue. Johnny. [01:08:01] Speaker A: Yep. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Let me get Spawn and Ground presents some more fan art. We get a little. I don't know the scale of this, Johnny. So I don't know if it's a posed action figure or like a little miniature for this Jessica Priest. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Looks like the action figure here. [01:08:20] Speaker B: Okay. So it's some. It's like Jessica Priest sitting on a throne of her own. It's either. It's either a throne that has been covered in a cloak and chains or like somebody who has been covered in a cloak and chains and she's just leaning against it with her big gun. Pretty cool. [01:08:39] Speaker A: Yep. [01:08:41] Speaker B: And then get a badass. Badass Javi by Paul Cameron. Art. There was one of those winners from the McFarlane Discord thing that they did not too long ago. Join now at Discord. G.G. mcFarlane. Hell, yeah. Real good. Need more Spawns Universe, Johnny. [01:09:00] Speaker A: Yes. [01:09:01] Speaker B: All right, good. Then again, don't. Don't miss these ongoing titles. [01:09:05] Speaker A: Won't do it. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Don't you dare. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Some April releases and a May release it's gonna be. [01:09:12] Speaker B: Maybe then we get the image Classic set. And then back to the. The issue one spawn statue ad. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:27] Speaker B: Very good. Very good. And then that is scorch 39. Johnny. [01:09:34] Speaker A: Scorch 39. I really like this cover on the back of the April issue. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very sort of, kind of a lot like what. What Rob Dwayne was saying. It feels a little Like Scotty Young. Because Scotty Young always has its, like, heroes. Like, crouching down in front of, like, a big scary thing and, like, treating it real kindly. [01:09:58] Speaker A: It's got that nice Jessica looks cute with a ponytail. [01:10:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:02] Speaker A: Bonk. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Good, good, good. Well, Johnny, I have managed somehow to keep the loudest barking dog quiet for most of this record. [01:10:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry, everyone. For the last few records, we've had a barking dog. [01:10:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:17] Speaker A: Apologize. [01:10:21] Speaker B: He has a rough go of it, so I do apologize for that. It's very hard to keep him quiet. But he is currently snoozing so softly and so sweetly that I'm going to rate him a very, very, very good boy. Which means, Johnny, that it's time to rate the puppies. [01:10:39] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppies. First up, we had king spawn 43. Continue that. Rory McConville. This is, like, the second arc he's done. The first one was with Steve the Demon. And now we're going to this child kidnapping arc. And I really like it. Um, it reminds me of early King Spawn because the little kids get kidnapped and shit. I like Lynch. He's a fun. It's fun to have Spawn have a new sidekick guy. [01:11:10] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [01:11:11] Speaker A: The fight was awesome. Just having Revenant rip through the FBI offices. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Just like. Like a bull in a China ship. [01:11:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I just love this story and where it's going and like, every week. King Swan. I'm just, like, really excited to get my hands on it. [01:11:27] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. Good. [01:11:29] Speaker A: But I love both art styles. We've talked about a lot on the show. We're big fans of Yoldre Senar. Hopefully he's sticking around. He just didn't have enough time to finish this one. But we'll see. [01:11:40] Speaker B: We'll see. [01:11:41] Speaker A: And then when it switches over to Pansika, it's really cool and ethereal and just like. [01:11:51] Speaker B: Like extra creepy. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Extra creepy. Everything's drip. Everything's like blowing in the wind. I don't know. It's cool. But yeah, story's great. Art's great. I'm gonna give it four and a half damn fine cups of coffee. [01:12:11] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [01:12:13] Speaker A: In honor of David lynch, which I like to believe in my head is what Agent lynch is named after. [01:12:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one, Johnny. I. I agree. This story is just. It's just rocking it. It's rocking it eight ways to Sunday. And man, yeah, Agent lynch is pretty cool. I'll be excited. It'll be excited to see how he and Spawn work. Together as a team. And the. The inevitable fallouts, since Spawn is the world's worst teammate. [01:12:46] Speaker A: Since it is Al Simmons. [01:12:48] Speaker B: But. Yeah. Oh, man. Just like. Like Revenant. Just an ignoble death for. For a mighty, mighty bad guy. [01:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:59] Speaker B: And it's just. It's an incredible, incredible book, Johnny. It's real nice. It's real nice. I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it for Eyeballs being punched out of a face Boom. In the hallway. Oh, boy. Rough, rough, rough stuff. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Rough stuff. But not a rough issue. [01:13:22] Speaker B: No, not at all. [01:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Just the momentum of it. It's a good story. [01:13:27] Speaker B: It's got excellent pacing. [01:13:29] Speaker A: Excellent pacing. I love the siege on the FBI building. Yeah. I mean, check it out. Definitely be reading this new King Swan. [01:13:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:39] Speaker A: Oh, David. [01:13:40] Speaker B: Oh, you gotta give it another half a star. Which takes up the five cups. [01:13:44] Speaker A: The middle page fell out. All right. The rule is, on the show from back in the day, the middle page falls out. It means I enjoyed it so much that I ripped it out that I have to give it an extra star, but I can't give it above a five. [01:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:55] Speaker A: So now it's a five. It's five damn fine cups of coffee. [01:13:58] Speaker B: Is when I read it. Hell, yeah. That's a. Oh, man, that's a lot of coffee. Could you imagine five cups of coffee? You'd be able to hear me vibrate. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm good at two, usually. Next up we have scorch 39. And this one's fun. I like this, like. I don't know. I like seeing them in their element, just hanging out at the X Mansion, whatever it is. The scorched mansion. [01:14:21] Speaker B: Yeah, the safe house. [01:14:22] Speaker A: The safe house. And just kind of like this is like, picking up where the next arc's going to go from the Vatican. It's kind of tying up the loose threads from that and then throwing Reaper in there and taking us to the next level, which seems is going to be kind of about the backstory of Redeemer, which we've been wondering about since issue one of King Spawn, when they tease him in the back after he got. [01:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah. It's been a long time coming, Johnny. [01:14:43] Speaker A: It's been a long time coming. [01:14:45] Speaker B: He's coming after you, my friend. [01:14:47] Speaker A: It's so weird that they change him and he has a beard now, but whatever. I mean, it's comic books. [01:14:52] Speaker B: What are you going to do? Better. [01:14:52] Speaker A: Like that's going to happen. I just like the old, hotter Redeemer look. [01:14:58] Speaker B: He's got help or heaven powers. Johnny. I'm sure he could grow and ungrow hair at will. [01:15:04] Speaker A: I'm sure that's one of his powers. Steven Segovia still killing it. [01:15:09] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Just like seeing the team interact and butt heads and stuff. [01:15:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:13] Speaker A: And not have them like out in a big battle. It's fun. I really enjoyed this issue. It's kind of in between issue, but it's got a lot of interesting moments. Raises some questions, has some answers. Everything you want. Yeah, I'm gonna give it 4 skra because that's what the noise it makes when Redeemer shoots his beam. And I like Redeemer. [01:15:32] Speaker B: Yeah, he shoots a good beam. I. I agree this is a great little like setting. Setting up the. Setting the stage for the, for the next. The next act. Like it very easy, very quickly puts everybody sort of, you know, kind of where we're gonna follow. We're obviously gonna follow Redeemer. Like Jessica Priest is out of commission. Overkill is out of commission. Medieval. This guy that they've just spent so long trying to get together is now potentially more of a going concern than we thought he would be. Something's going on with Daniel Kilgore and it's. Oh, it's a. It's a great. It's a great in betweener. Johnny. John. John Layman gives us great in between tweeners. It's amazing. And yeah, I'm excited to. I'm excited to follow this Redeemer story. See how it goes. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And I am also gonna give it four. I am gonna give it for. Mark Rosen's not giving a. What any of them want. So. [01:16:36] Speaker A: Four. [01:16:36] Speaker B: Four. No shits from. From Mark Rosen. [01:16:39] Speaker A: I love it. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Mark Rosen has a need and unfortunately that's. [01:16:43] Speaker A: It's not. [01:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah, apparently that unfortunately that need might destroy him. [01:16:49] Speaker A: He needs that Medieval. [01:16:50] Speaker B: Yeah, he needs. He needs it precious. He needs it. Excellent. Well, that's those puppies rated Johnny. And you know what else we need? [01:16:59] Speaker A: Need some friends on Instagram. [01:17:00] Speaker B: We need some friends on Instagram. And this week our particular friend on Instagram is shouted out in the back of scorched 39. It is Paul Cameron art and they man. One of the. One of the best things about this art, Paul Cameron art is not, as you would think, the spawn art. But in fact he has several posts dedicated to one zebra print underwear clad hero known as the Phantom. Johnny. Look at that. He's got some Phantom there. Oh boy. Oh boy. Fucking love the Phantom. He's got a lot of ninja Turtles on there, too. Phantom and Ninja Turtles. What more could you want? Well, I guess some spawn. He's got some spawn. It's cool shit. It's real fun. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got great art. Yeah. This is awesome. Ninja Turtles got a lot of pathos to them. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. He's got a. He's also got a. What's that. What's that guy's name? Captain Planet. Captain Planet with his green mullet. Excellent, excellent. And some Earthworm Jim, man. Earthworm Jim. Yeah, it's cool. Give him a follow. He goes. He does some really good shit. Yeah, real good shit. Speaking of real good shit, Lonnie Bones does our music, and that's real good shit. You should follow him wherever you follow music. Just Lonnie Bones music will get you there. [01:18:25] Speaker A: While you're looking up the new ghost album, hop on some Lonnie Bones, too. [01:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah, listen to Lonnie Bones while you're getting. Don't play on both of the same time. I don't think they'll. I don't think they'll. They'll overlap very well. [01:18:35] Speaker A: Lonnie Bones is the man who introduced me to ghosts. [01:18:38] Speaker B: Oh, hell, yeah. Well, then, I mean, full circle, Johnny. [01:18:42] Speaker A: It's full circle. [01:18:42] Speaker B: It's full circle. It's awesome. Speaking of full circle, while you're on the Internet, after following Paul Cameron art and then going to the music side of the Internet, circle back to Instagram and follow us on there. We're regarding Spawn podcast. [01:18:56] Speaker A: Absolutely. We can post about the episodes. You can reach out to us there, or you can reach out to us at. Regarding swampodmail.com send us a letter. We will read it on air. [01:19:06] Speaker B: Absolutely. As long as you don't say, don't read this on air. Because if you say that, we won't. [01:19:11] Speaker A: Yeah, but just drop us a line. I always like to ask a question to spur questioning. And I wonder, because I talked about them for a little bit. What are your favorite musicals? I said Phantom. I said Jekyll and Hyde. Les Mis. [01:19:25] Speaker B: Very good. That's a good one. [01:19:28] Speaker A: What are your favorite musicals? [01:19:29] Speaker B: I'm a fan of the music from the Book of Mormon. I haven't seen the full show. It's good. It does fall into the South Park y trap of sometimes listening to it too much. It's just like, eh. But it's good. I also like the Cannibal, the musical. I always say it's a shpadoinkle day when it's nice outside. [01:19:51] Speaker A: Nice. [01:19:51] Speaker B: That's a good one. Ooh, Favorite Though I think the Drowsy Chaperone is my all time favorite musical. [01:19:57] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Deep cut. [01:19:58] Speaker B: It's a. It's a real good one. [01:20:00] Speaker A: I mean, mine's definitely Phantom, so that's. [01:20:03] Speaker B: Not a bad one. That's not a bad one. [01:20:05] Speaker A: Nope. [01:20:05] Speaker B: No. [01:20:06] Speaker A: Well, write us about your musicals. Write us about Spawn. Write about whatever you want to write about. Hit us up regarding spawnpodmail.com send us your. [01:20:13] Speaker B: Your outline for a Spawn the Musical. So that way Johnny. Johnny could use those ideas when he writes. [01:20:20] Speaker A: Has to be the guy. What's his name? We could get. [01:20:22] Speaker B: We get Lonnie Bones to write the actual music. [01:20:25] Speaker A: We got to get the guy. No, the guy does the Meatloaf albums like the Epic. Oh, what is his name? [01:20:31] Speaker B: The. The writer or the. [01:20:33] Speaker A: Yeah, the writer. [01:20:34] Speaker B: Oh, I don't remember what his name is. [01:20:37] Speaker A: It's like Jim Sheridan or something. Hold on. [01:20:39] Speaker B: Definitely not Jim Cummingham because that's Winnie the Pooh. [01:20:43] Speaker A: Jim Steinman. [01:20:44] Speaker B: Jim Steinman and I would do anything for Spawn. We'd run right into hell and back. [01:20:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, Jim Sheridan. He writes all those epic. [01:20:57] Speaker B: That would be perfect. That would be perfect. Absolutely. Well, Johnny, you know what else is perfect? Talking about Spawn on the Internet after we read some perfectly perfect. Perfectly perfect. You want to have a perfectly perfect time next week by perfectly reading some perfect books and then perfectly talking about them with no issues or errors whatsoever. [01:21:15] Speaker A: That sounds great. [01:21:16] Speaker B: Awesome. Well, why don't we do a perfectly. A perfectly rootin tootin episode next time, Johnny, Okay. And have double cowboy. I should have been a cowboy. [01:21:30] Speaker A: We're gonna be a cowboy. So we are doing gunslinger 41 and deadly tails, the gunslinger number four. [01:21:39] Speaker B: A double gunslinger time. It's gonna be. It's gonna be so much fun. As I already said, a rootin tootin time. A little pew pew and then a little pew pew. And we'll get both of the flavors of the gunslinger in one episode. [01:21:50] Speaker A: The Todd Fathers and the Palmiottis. [01:21:53] Speaker B: That'll be a good time. I'm excited for it. So find yourself some deadly tales number four and some gunslinger 41 and join us next week. [01:22:01] Speaker A: It'll be a hoedown. [01:22:02] Speaker B: It will be a hoedown. And, well, Johnny, speaking of. Speaking of hoedowns, you don't talk during a hoedown. You just dance. So I agree. So I got on my dancing shoes and that means I've got nothing to say, but may the scorched be with you. [01:22:18] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [01:22:19] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [01:22:20] Speaker A: Hell yeah. [01:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And a boot scooting boogie to you as well. [01:22:25] Speaker A: Way down yonder by the Chattahoochee? [01:22:27] Speaker B: It gets hotter than a hoochie coochie journey. [01:22:29] Speaker A: That's what I've heard. [01:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what that converts to in Fahrenheit. We should call up Alan Jackson and see if he has a. A conversion for. For temperatures to hoochie coochie or not. [01:22:47] Speaker A: Play the Sam A little green Rosetta? A tiny green Rosetta? A little green Rosetta? A little green Rositi? It's really, really neaty? Little green? Rosy? [01:23:52] Speaker B: Little green Rosetta? [01:23:54] Speaker A: Little green Rosetta? Make a muffin better? You make a muffin better? With the green Rosetta? Zada, Zada? And a green rositi? 2.