Episode 157 - Violator: Origins 5!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: I could leave you here, I suppose, counting the bones of the damned for all eternity with only your thoughts as companions. Or you could follow me and learn something. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Foreign. [00:00:42] Speaker A: And welcome to the Malibu. This is regarding Spawn, the world's best Spawn podcast. I'm your co host, John Fisher. [00:00:50] Speaker B: And I am your co host, David Williams. And Johnny. It's a rainy October evening here, and boy howdy, it is like the most spawn inducive or conducive environment I have been in in a while. There's spooky shit outside. It's cold. I want some soup and a blanket and some spawn and some spawn soup. Spawn blanket. [00:01:17] Speaker A: What kind of soup would you get? [00:01:18] Speaker B: Ooh, ooh, ooh. I mean, I'm a big fan of a savory squash soup in the fall. Oh, love like something. Something that you can sprinkle a couple of Pepitos or pumpkin seeds on. [00:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. I like creamy soups. [00:01:35] Speaker B: Oh, man, I love a soup. Soup is good. [00:01:37] Speaker A: My mom went. My mom and I went to Olive Garden today for lunch, and she got the soup, salad, and breadsticks. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Those breadsticks rock, dude. [00:01:45] Speaker A: They're so good. [00:01:47] Speaker B: I have a. I have an old co worker whose husband is from Italy, and he was like 42 the first time she took him to an Olive Garden. And now he's like, when can we go back to the Olive Garden? Yeah, so Italian approved rocks? [00:02:06] Speaker A: No. Yeah, I got the chicken Parmesan and I ate like four breadsticks and some salad. [00:02:11] Speaker B: That's. [00:02:12] Speaker A: I love the salad too, man. [00:02:15] Speaker B: Did you. When they came over with the Parmesan, where you're like, keep. Keep cranking, bud. Keep going. [00:02:22] Speaker A: I didn't have that much, though. Just a little bit. Just a touch of the parmesan. [00:02:29] Speaker B: The touch of the Parmesan. [00:02:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it was good. [00:02:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah. I haven't been to Olive Garden in maybe a decade. [00:02:41] Speaker A: There's kind of one out there in Chicago. [00:02:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we used to live by where it is because I remember I walked to pick it up. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, you sliver right there by that target. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it was a Kmart. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Kmart. [00:02:55] Speaker B: It was a Kmart. I think it's like a. Like a discount tile warehouse or something like that. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Oh, really? They change as much as things change. They say the same. [00:03:05] Speaker B: There's so much different. [00:03:06] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:03:07] Speaker B: As if that section of town. Any more traffic, Johnny. Oh, my God. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it gets really traffic. [00:03:12] Speaker B: It's so bad. We've got one of the vets we use for one of the rescues is. Is up there and it's just like, oh, that's my day. Just going and sitting in traffic both there and back. [00:03:26] Speaker A: It's rough. [00:03:28] Speaker B: But I get to hang out with a dog all day, so that's fine. Could be worse. I could be in traffic with no dog. [00:03:33] Speaker A: That's worse. [00:03:33] Speaker B: I can't. [00:03:34] Speaker A: I can't think of a worse traffic with no dog. That's a little better. Yeah, if you're in no traffic with a dog, though, that's the best. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's. That's a. That's the opposite of what we see in this issue today, Johnny. [00:03:46] Speaker A: Yes, I. I'm in the land of no traffic. [00:03:50] Speaker B: Oh, man, that's gotta be. That's gotta be so weird. [00:03:53] Speaker A: I mean, there is traffic, but they complain about it. It's like nothing in Tulsa. [00:03:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Compared to Chicago. [00:03:58] Speaker B: I have a cousin who grew up in Dallas, and he. He spent a few years in Wichita, and, like, his boss was like, sometimes it takes you 45 minutes to get across town. It's terrible. My cousin was just like, bud, sometimes. [00:04:14] Speaker A: It takes 45 minutes to get two miles. [00:04:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's rough. But, you know, if you're walking, that's. That's. That's one thing. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I love the walking. That's a. Or CTA was even good. The train. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Tulsa. Tulsa's not. Tulsa's a reasonably walkable city, but it's got some pretty un. Unwalkable bits. [00:04:34] Speaker A: No, it's pretty unwalkable. There's a bus now. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Oh, nice. It's much more walkable than Muskokee is. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. There are sidewalks in Tulsa. Most of the time. Yeah, most of the time. Sometimes there's not. [00:04:48] Speaker B: So you just got to go your own way. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Just like in Rosemont, we discovered there are no sidewalks. Walking on the side of the road. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Like in the middle of the block, they just like, ah, nah, fuck it. We're not going to put a sidewalk here. But sidewalks. What the hell? [00:05:04] Speaker A: Let's stop right here. [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Or city planners, they don't know what. [00:05:08] Speaker A: They'Re doing, but the only one planner who knows what he's doing is Mark Andraco. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Yeah, well, Johnny, wait, wait, wait. We don't know what we're doing. [00:05:15] Speaker A: No, I'm doing the. I'm doing the transition. [00:05:18] Speaker B: Hold on. I got to. [00:05:18] Speaker A: One planner who knows what he's doing is Mark Andraco. [00:05:21] Speaker B: But I'll be right back. There's a dog stuck in a gate. Oh, she's like that Eric Andre sketch. Let me in, let me in. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Let me in. No, I'm saying that Mark and Draco has a good plan. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Oh, he planned it out. Well, he sure does. He's. [00:05:40] Speaker A: There's many callbacks in this issue that we're covering today on Respawn, which is what we are. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:05:45] Speaker A: Each week we bring you two issues from Spawn's universe. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Except when we don't. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Yeah. This one's a don't. [00:05:52] Speaker A: We don't. It's a Don't. Weak. [00:05:54] Speaker B: It's a. It's a no, no. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Don't got too. It's a no, no. It's a. [00:05:58] Speaker B: It's a. Whoop. It's a. Hang on there, buddy. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Hang on there, cow poke. [00:06:04] Speaker B: Slow your roll, bud. [00:06:06] Speaker A: I always think of, like, what was that? Was it Walker, Texas Ranger? Where his horse's name was Trigger? Or is that another show? [00:06:15] Speaker B: I don't remember anything about Walker, Texas Ranger, but I kind of remember a dog, a cat. [00:06:24] Speaker A: Maybe something older. Because I heard someone say, whoa, their Trigger. I don't think it was that. [00:06:30] Speaker B: The Lone Rangers horse's name. Oh, Silver. Duho. Silver. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You gotta cut that out. He was Roy Rogers's horse. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Ah, Roy Rogers. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah. So easy there, boy. [00:06:48] Speaker B: That's a reference wasted on the wrong episode of Regarding Spawn, there's not a gunslinger in sight. [00:06:56] Speaker A: I'll remember. If you get too excited about gunslinger, I'll say, whoa, there, Trigger. Easy there, boy. No, yeah, we're saying hold up. It's not two issues. It's just one. [00:07:10] Speaker B: It's one of them. [00:07:12] Speaker A: Hold your horses. And it's violator number five. Violator origins. Five of six. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:19] Speaker A: All the way back from January 2025. [00:07:23] Speaker B: Long ass time ago, Johnny. [00:07:25] Speaker A: I know. We're, like, so behind. [00:07:27] Speaker B: Yeah. It's crazy. It's fine. Think of it as job security for this job that we definitely get paid for. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah, come on. [00:07:36] Speaker B: That we definitely don't spend more money on than we get. [00:07:40] Speaker A: What are you talking about? [00:07:42] Speaker B: I'm trying to. I'm trying to secret it in. Into. Into reality, Johnny. Hopefully, if I make a joke about it, it'll. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Be a podcast to make money. ELO informed me that Blank Check special features dropped Spawn today. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Oh, I'm gonna have to listen to that. [00:08:04] Speaker A: You have to subscribe to there. [00:08:05] Speaker B: I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to subscribe to the Patreon. [00:08:09] Speaker A: I wait. I do it every once in a while. Like, let them build up a bunch, and I'll subscribe and listen to them. [00:08:14] Speaker B: This means. This means this Means we're never gonna get invited to do spawn on Blank Check, Johnny. [00:08:20] Speaker A: That is correct. It is our. [00:08:22] Speaker B: So I'm sad. [00:08:24] Speaker A: It's okay. They would ask spawnography anyway. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, probably. They have the better connections. They have the have peed next to each other. Don't you remember that story that. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Yeah, the story that Pierce told about peeing next to Griffin Newman. But yeah, we're doing Violator number five. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yes. Speaking of cornering people in bathrooms, does. [00:08:46] Speaker A: That happen in this? [00:08:48] Speaker B: No, but I would call somebody who corners somebody else in a bathroom a violator. [00:08:55] Speaker A: That's true. [00:08:56] Speaker B: That's true. It was. It was sweaty at best, Johnny. [00:09:00] Speaker A: No, I just didn't understand. I thought you're saying like the issue. Someone gets cornered in a bathroom. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Well, I mean, no, kind of. Somebody gets cornered. [00:09:06] Speaker A: He gets cornered by Lucifer, that's for sure. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. A couple of people who get cornered. [00:09:11] Speaker A: It's in a charnel house, though. It's in like a. Where you burn a body, I guess. The furnace. It's a furnace. [00:09:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like the boiler room. Because it's like at the. The bottom of the. Who we kidding, Johnny? It's just. It's just a brick oven pizza restaurant. They do this at night when they aren't using it. They just turn it into a sex shop and they're like, you just got to be out of here by 8. [00:09:34] Speaker A: Are you talking about Pizzagate, David? [00:09:36] Speaker B: No, I'm talking about literally just taken over. No, I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about bad sex house in a pizza afterwards. I'm talking consensual, legitimate sexual house in a pizza factory. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Remember people thought that that pizza place was like they were going to like free the kids from the boiler room. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah, because like, they were. They were like held underneath. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like a portal to. [00:10:05] Speaker B: Like a pedophile den run by Hillary Clinton. [00:10:11] Speaker A: Run by Hillary Clinton. Oh, boy. [00:10:15] Speaker B: Oh, man. How innocent we were, Johnny. Yeah, how innocent. [00:10:19] Speaker A: I fucked up Megan's tv, my girlfriend's, because I accidentally like, got it to stay on the Chris Hanson channel. So now it's just Chris Hansen all the time when you turn on her TV. Because you know how Samsung TVs like go to like a default, like, Samsung channel. I don't know if you ever had a Samsung tv, but they have like a lot of. I think they have like a Pluto TV built into them, basically. [00:10:42] Speaker B: Okay, I think. I think I have when you turn it on, but I think it's too old. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Too old. Yeah, if you had a smarter TV. Your TV's a dummy. [00:10:51] Speaker B: It's kind of dummy. I just have. [00:10:52] Speaker A: But that's probably better, though. [00:10:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's at least listening to me less. At least. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Samsung's have their own Pluto tv, basically versus channels. And one of them is True Blue, which is Chris Henson's channel. And I watched it so much on our TV that now just defaults to that. So you turn on tv, it's just Chris Henson busting up some pedophiles. [00:11:13] Speaker B: So, Johnny, what Megan needs to do now is she needs to force you to sit there and watch something else more than you've watched Chris Hansen. So it defaults to that. [00:11:23] Speaker A: Okay, I'll do Kitchen Nightmares channel. [00:11:25] Speaker B: That's. That's a little better. When I was a little better. When I was a junior lifeguard in middle school, there was a rain day where the water park is closed on a rain day. And one of the lifeguards got 666 on another lifeguard's phone in Snake. And she made him sit there the whole day to try to beat his score because she was like, I'm not having that devil number on my phone. [00:11:49] Speaker A: That's funny. Did he do it? [00:11:51] Speaker B: No, he did. No, he. No, he never. He never beat his. Like, he. He equaled 666 like four times. And it just like, couldn't get past was. It was hilarious. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Maybe that's intentional. That's built into Snake that you can't get past 666. [00:12:09] Speaker B: I don't know. Snake was a. Snake was a great game. [00:12:13] Speaker A: Great game. One of the all timers. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Talk about anxiety inducing, though. Like, ah, ah. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Oh, at the end. Yeah, it gets really intense. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Like, it gives you. It gives you like four pixels of room. [00:12:23] Speaker A: And it's like, gotta eat those pellets. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Unsurprisingly, I was bad at Snake. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Really? [00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Tetris is literally the only game I've ever been decent at. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Tetris is a good game. One of the greats. Well, that's a Russian game and a Russian song, but that was last week's issue. [00:12:51] Speaker B: That was. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Did you know that Tetris is a Russian game? [00:12:56] Speaker B: I didn't. Johnny, I'm serious. [00:12:58] Speaker A: That's not a joke. [00:12:59] Speaker B: No, no, no. It was also. It was. I was joking because obviously the original Tetris opened with like the onion domes of a cathedral. [00:13:08] Speaker A: It's. It's aesthetic was just Russia. Yeah, yeah, that was last week's. We had Rasputin on Violator or not last Week. Last issue. It was like a month ago. [00:13:19] Speaker B: Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen. There was a cat that really was gone. Russia's greatest love machine. It was a shame how he carried on the last. Last time we did it. It's time in the recent past. I don't remember. [00:13:41] Speaker A: So now we're on to Violet number five, which is. You go from the Russians to the Nazis. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah. A lateral move. [00:13:49] Speaker A: It's like the opposite. Like the opposite of America's enemies. They were from the Nazis to the Russians. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like a reversal of. [00:13:57] Speaker A: The Allies, but only briefly. It's bookended by Nazi Germany stuff. There's a lot in the cosmic realm of Hell as well. [00:14:08] Speaker B: Yes, it is very. It's. It's a little bit of world building, just a little bit of underworld. [00:14:14] Speaker A: I'm getting into it too deep before covering the covers. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Yes, we should cover the covers. [00:14:20] Speaker A: And I have the A cover. [00:14:22] Speaker B: All right. [00:14:23] Speaker A: Kevin Maguire, who also did the interior art. [00:14:25] Speaker B: I also have the A cover. [00:14:27] Speaker A: Oh, God damn it. I hate it when that happens. That means I have to look up the B cover on my phone. I hate looking up things on my phone. [00:14:33] Speaker B: This is. This is the one thing I didn't come prepared with, Johnny, because Spawn.com or Image Comics.com only lists one cover. [00:14:42] Speaker A: Really? [00:14:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, I found it, Johnny. And that is a good cover for. [00:14:47] Speaker A: It's a Bjorn Baron's cover. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Yeah. The B cover is Bjorn Barons. So they're both pretty similar covers. They're violated with his mouth open and his tongue going and dripping. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Yes. Tongue going crazy. [00:15:01] Speaker B: So they're thematically similar. It's very good. Bjorn Behrens has saliva coming out of Violator's mouth where the. Kevin Maguire has. Kevin. Yeah. Kevin McGuire has blood coming out. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Blood. [00:15:14] Speaker B: It's the main difference. [00:15:16] Speaker A: They both got little hairy chins, though. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Yeah. They're both pretty excellent covers. And, Johnny, we got a rare. Both covers, they match what's inside the comic book. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that never happens because they're about the Violator and they feature the Violator. [00:15:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Who to thunk? Well, apparently both Kevin McGuire and Bjorn Barrons. That's who. [00:15:39] Speaker A: That's who thunk it. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah, Both of them. [00:15:42] Speaker A: But, yeah, I think they're both. I love the Violator. I like the viewer. Barons. He's got the longer jaw. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's pure Barons. But this Kevin McGuire cover is no slouch. It's. [00:15:54] Speaker A: I think, Kevin McGuire's art in this issue a lot. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It's so clean. It's Beautiful. I think. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Let's crack this puppy open then. [00:16:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:04] Speaker A: What do you think, David? [00:16:05] Speaker B: Oh, I think. I think the. The Kevin McGuire cover is a little more menacing than the Bjorn Barons. Like there's more teeth than the Bjorn Berens. But I think. I think the Violator looks angrier. [00:16:15] Speaker A: And the blood, the blood in his teeth really sells it. [00:16:20] Speaker B: His brow is much more ha, like, VEED. [00:16:23] Speaker A: So we pop it open and we got the credits. Script plot by Marc Andreiko. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Pencils by Kevin McGuire with Ben Templesmith on additional art. Pages 30 through 38. [00:16:35] Speaker B: He does the creepy hell stuff. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Rosemary Cheetham did the colors. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Yes, she did. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Lettering XAM World Design. We already covered the covers. [00:16:44] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Creative Director is Tom McFarlane and editor in chief is Thomas Healy. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:16:51] Speaker A: Previously in Violator. As you dear readers witnessed, I took control of Rasputin's body and made him the legend I was always meant to. My story is just getting started. [00:17:04] Speaker B: Johnny. Yeah, here we. Here we are about to start this story. I just noticed a massive typo. [00:17:11] Speaker A: What? [00:17:12] Speaker B: Down here in the legal bit, it says that this is violator number four. [00:17:18] Speaker A: Uh oh. That means this is in public domain. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:17:24] Speaker A: Like we could make a movie out of it. [00:17:26] Speaker B: Like George Romero forgetting to put the. The trademark on. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Right. Night of the Living Dead. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Could you imagine that? Like still being a thing? Like just one person forgot to put one. One frame in a movie and now you can just rip it off all you want. Wild. [00:17:45] Speaker A: It is wild. Kind of fitting. I don't know. It's fitting for that movie because it made it like so many wild sequels to it and it just made the zombie genre accessible to everybody. Yeah. [00:18:00] Speaker B: I think it also gave it more exposure by people just being like, what should we put on the TV in the background? I'll just throw this movie on there. It's creepy. They're coming to get you, Barbara. [00:18:10] Speaker A: It's a good movie. [00:18:11] Speaker B: I haven't seen it in a while, but I remember very much enjoying it. [00:18:14] Speaker A: I watched it a few years ago. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Hell yeah. Spooky movies. They're the best. [00:18:19] Speaker A: We open on a gentleman, a spooky gentleman. He's a little spooky. He's got red eyes and dark and sunken into his head. [00:18:28] Speaker B: He casts a mean shadow, Johnny. [00:18:30] Speaker A: His shadow looks like the violator with. [00:18:32] Speaker B: The longest of Jaws. And he's welcoming him. He's welcome, welcoming us into his place. [00:18:42] Speaker A: What could say is vilcoming us? [00:18:43] Speaker B: Yes, it says so right on the mat, Johnny. [00:18:47] Speaker A: It's a vilcoman. Mat, this is obviously very cabaret inspired. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Yes, indeed, absolutely. [00:18:56] Speaker A: He introduces himself as Max Verletser and. [00:19:00] Speaker B: It says look it up. And you know what you get when you look it up, Johnny? What? Okay, so Verletser, what do you think verletser means? [00:19:11] Speaker A: Violator. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Violator, Nice. So he's Max violin, maximum vibe. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Max violator. [00:19:18] Speaker B: There's no more violator than this man. He's got the creepiest, creepiest fucking grin. It just like follows you across the room as you move around. Spooky. [00:19:31] Speaker A: It does. He's inviting someone in to be a special guest for a truly life altering evening. [00:19:36] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. And so we enter Berlin, 1938. October, Johnny. October 1938. Hell yeah. Perfect time to be reading us. Yes. And he welcomes them to Club Absinthe. Isn't it depraved? And we've got, well, we've got a lady singing up on a stage and just a whole lot of fucking going on. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Yeah, just like a big old orgy. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Just like an. And then Max Verletzer is like, oh, hold on, we got a hope. We gotta step over hope. Sorry about that. Just like climbing over writhing bodies to get to like a steel door at the back. And he says, aha, we're here, but we're in a closet. Huh? And he's like, ah, but this isn't the final stop. Come here, let me put this blindfold on you. And this next part. Well, you'll see. I like how it's. I like how this whole first bit is in like first person view of the. Of the guest. Yes. And so. [00:20:44] Speaker A: And this guest is. Put a blindfold on and he drags him a little bit, so careful. Give me your hand. Almost there. [00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:50] Speaker A: He pulls it off and it's three beheaded Nazi. [00:20:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, look at those. Look at those motherfuckers. [00:20:56] Speaker A: Heads cut right off. [00:20:57] Speaker B: I must say, I have never seen a finer assemblage of Nazis in my life. [00:21:05] Speaker A: Because they're decapitated. [00:21:06] Speaker B: Because they're decapitated. Yes. They look, they look kind of like they have been attacked by one Christopher Walken, circa 1999. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Exactly. They look like they've been decapitated by the Hessian Horseman. [00:21:20] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Nice and clean. Must be some of that hellfire. [00:21:24] Speaker B: He's a German. He is a German soldier. And then we cut out of the first person view and we see this, this Nazi, this Nazi soldier just like, oh, gotten himmel. And the Violator does one of my favorite, one of my favorite jokes, Johnny. When people say it's like, not God, I'm afraid. Just little old me. [00:21:46] Speaker A: It's Todd, not God. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And so the Violator has taken off his max for letter skin. And it's just the Violator. And he's like, you know, just above. Above this. Above this Nazi, just menacing. [00:22:00] Speaker A: He says, you'll lower your defenses to a stranger. Put on a blindfold, follow me into a dark room. Nazis are fucking idiots. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Hell yeah. And so. So this guy's just freaking out in the Violator. Just. Just with the quips. This is the master race. And then the. The Nazi, like, trips over the max for. Let's just skin. It is like. Ah. By the way, that is like. Like. All right, sorry. Sorry about that. I'm a little messy boy. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Also, it's funny because I think they forgot to translate that one line. He just all sudden speaks in English real quick. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Don't touch me. [00:22:37] Speaker A: Also, all the other lines are italicized, and that one's not. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Whoops. It's fine. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Maybe his English just pops out. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe he's so scared he forgot to be German. He. He forgot to start counting with his thumb. [00:22:48] Speaker A: He's so scared. He speaks. Do you get so scared you speak in another language? [00:22:54] Speaker B: Not yet, but there's still time, Johnny. [00:22:58] Speaker A: There's still time. You haven't watched Weapons yet. [00:23:00] Speaker B: I haven't. I need to. It's supposed to be streaming soon, so. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Streaming on HBO soon. That's what I was thinking about it, so maybe that'll scare you so much you'll be speaking Russian. Maybe. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Maybe I. I watched Bring Her Back this last weekend and. Hoo boy. Hoo boy. Hoo boy. [00:23:19] Speaker A: That's scary. [00:23:20] Speaker B: That thing's fucked up. Yeah. Oh, it's spooky as hell. [00:23:24] Speaker A: Okay. [00:23:26] Speaker B: It's. I recommend it. I don't think you should watch it twice, but you should. You should definitely watch it once. [00:23:34] Speaker A: My spooky movie this week is. We watched Drag Me to Hell. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. [00:23:39] Speaker A: So good. [00:23:40] Speaker B: It's a good one. [00:23:41] Speaker A: So funny and so gross and just so scary and spooky. It wasn't me. It was my boss, Mr. Jacks. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Excuses. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Oh, come on, Christine Brown, you did it. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah, you did. Jesus. Trying to. Trying to pawn it off on other people. [00:24:00] Speaker A: A great morality table. Yeah. [00:24:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Morality table. Morality tail. [00:24:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Morality table. It's where you go to do the right thing. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Tom and I have been trying for days on Snapchat's AI filter to get it with a picture of Donald Trump standing on us on all fours like He's a table, and we can't get it to do it. [00:24:19] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, you know what? I'm gonna tell you what, you should stop fucking trying. Just stop trying. It's not worth it. It's not worth it in any way, shape or form. [00:24:32] Speaker A: We just love messing with the AI you love. [00:24:35] Speaker B: You love polluting our waters, David, Give. [00:24:38] Speaker A: Me a fucking break. [00:24:41] Speaker B: Never. [00:24:41] Speaker A: I'm not here for a long time. I'm here for a good time. [00:24:44] Speaker B: Well, that doesn't mean you have to leave Bad times for those that don't have a long time after us. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Johnny, it's over, dude. It's already over. It's fucking over. We're over the hump. [00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah, we definitely are over the hump. But, Johnny, I've been a buzzkill for 37 years. I can't stop now. I can't stop now. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Okay? I won't use AI. I won't use AI in my daily life, always, like I do now. [00:25:10] Speaker B: I don't believe you. I don't believe believe you for a single goddamn second, John. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Yeah, ChatGPT is like a good search engine, is actually good. [00:25:19] Speaker B: And it's still bad. [00:25:21] Speaker A: It's so bad. [00:25:22] Speaker B: Still bad. So we learned that apparently these Nazis were stealing from the Violator, so it's not really a moral stance. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:32] Speaker B: The Violator's a bad guy. What are you gonna do? And they've been stealing from him. And so he. Well, Johnny, he does the classic Violator thing. He rips this guy's heart out. [00:25:44] Speaker A: He rips his heart out? [00:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And he says, oh, look, Nazis do have hearts, unsurprisingly, small ones, but hearts nonetheless. I love. He's like, oh, I know I shouldn't, but it's so long. It's been so long since I've had authentic German. [00:25:59] Speaker A: So he eats the heart. [00:26:00] Speaker B: So after the Violator has himself a little heart snack, he burns the bodies. Mm. So he's. He's at this. He's at this oven, he's watching the bodies burn, and he starts talking to somebody who's creeping up on him, and he says, I wish I could say it's been too long, but it hasn't. Lucifer. [00:26:19] Speaker A: That's Lucifer. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah, Lucifer. Wearing like a. Like a zoot suit style suit, man. There's a lot of fabric there. And that waist is very high. [00:26:31] Speaker A: Yes. [00:26:31] Speaker B: And that tie is very skinny. I love a zoot suit, Johnny. I wish I were fucking fit and thin, because that's what you have to be to look good in a zoot suit. I would I would rock a zoot suit if I could. But no, no, it would look bad on me. [00:26:48] Speaker A: No, don't sell yourself short. [00:26:50] Speaker B: The, the. If you have a. If you have a suit that's made from a lot of fabric and it's not just like voluminous, it takes, it takes away the, the whole visual appeal of it. Not saying that I don't look good in certain clothes. I just would not look good in a zoot suit. [00:27:10] Speaker A: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. [00:27:11] Speaker B: And it makes me sad because that would be hilarious to just like leisurely wear a zoot suit around town. [00:27:18] Speaker A: And Lucifer almost calls him Basiel and he's like, careful. [00:27:21] Speaker B: Yep. Lucifer's like, yes, Violator. [00:27:26] Speaker A: It is direct, but it lacks nuance. So he disses him back by calling Morningstar. Yeah. [00:27:32] Speaker B: And well, Lucifer's there to, you know, offer him a job. Hey, that's pretty great. He's like, hey, buddy. Hey buddy, I need a. I got a. I got a. I got a job for you. You wanna, you wanna, you wanna come join me? And he's like, come on, come on, you really want to be around these humans? They're so boring. Come on. [00:27:53] Speaker A: Violators just like. That's your sales pitch, really? [00:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like fucking humans being boring. Boring. And it's like, I'll tell you what, you have a better shot of working with this here dead Nazi than you ever have of working with me. This is, this is the greatest, this is the greatest brush off in existence, Johnny. Thanks for thinking of me, though. It's sweet. Now I have debauchery to attend to. Yeah. Oh, I love how sassy the Violator is in this issue, Johnny. [00:28:21] Speaker A: He's very sassy. [00:28:23] Speaker B: It's great. It's so good. [00:28:25] Speaker A: And then Satan and Lucifer is like, I will not be ignored. I am the morning star. [00:28:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Violet's just like. And I am leaving. [00:28:32] Speaker B: Yeah. So. So Lucifer like kicks open, open the floor to the fires of hell. And Violator is just like, come on, yawn. Violators like, you've been. You've spent too much time around these humans. They've made you soft and weak. Violators like, yeah. And also self sufficient. What are you going to do about it? Lucifer is not happy with violators answers. And so he just like gets madder and madder and turns into a beast and breathes fire. [00:29:02] Speaker A: He's doing all the tricks. [00:29:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he is. He says, I am not the creator. I am the anti creator. Flows trippingly off the tongue. The anti creator. [00:29:13] Speaker A: He's like, you can call yourself whatever you want, but I'm saying no. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And like the Max Verletser skin just like sizzles and melts off. And then we get Violator and all of his violatoriness again. Oh boy. I like that. This long jaw on this two page spread here has like a, that nice big crook in it. It's like, it's like l shaped like a hockey stick. [00:29:38] Speaker A: He's like, please tell me you won't take no for an answer because he wants a fight. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And then, and then Lucifer says yes, let the hate flow through. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Wait, this awesome two page spread of them fighting? [00:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah, this would be an awesome poster to just have on your wall. And so Violator gets first blood and then Lucifer hits him with a left hook. And then Violator knees Lucifer right in the face and Violator is like, haha. I've spent a lot of time around humans and they know how to fight if nothing else. I've been doing this for a long time, bud. And Lucifer's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well let's. Why don't we go somewhere else? And he snaps and then snaps. [00:30:22] Speaker A: And all of a sudden, boom. They fall through the floor. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:25] Speaker A: And they're falling to hell. [00:30:27] Speaker B: They're falling like violators falling through just like a field of ghostly faces into. [00:30:34] Speaker A: A lost soul white void. [00:30:37] Speaker B: And all the while he's just hurling insults at Lucifer. And they fall into a field of bones. And then we get the, we get the opening reading, Johnny. [00:30:53] Speaker A: Yes, we get Lucifer in his classic armor too. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:57] Speaker A: From the first issue. [00:30:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And Lucifer just like walks into the gate of Hell and Violators like, fine. [00:31:08] Speaker A: I hate him so much. [00:31:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:11] Speaker A: He says, and basically we go on this, like walk through the layers of Hell. [00:31:17] Speaker B: With Lucifer, it's, it's very issue spawn issue number 85888. Yeah. Only much more classically conceived. No, no psychic ice shrimp here. [00:31:32] Speaker A: Right. But we get, it's much more like John Milton. [00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we get, we get Hell as a series of spheres connected by thin treacherous stairs. And well, we go through the, we go through the levels of Hell one by one, Johnny. This is the beginning of the Ben Templesmith art. And we start in limbo with all of the unblessed babies, violator violators. Like, this is fucking stupid. And Lucifer is just like, yeah, well, I guess, you know, sins is sins. Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker A: It's like, sorry. He's like, why they have these babies here? He's like, yeah, they came up with these rules, man. [00:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah. So yeah, it's kind of fucked up, but it's what we do. And then they go to lust. Johnny and Violator is like, ooh. You ever. You ever done some human sex, Lucifer? Because it's great. Let me tell you. [00:32:25] Speaker A: It's pretty fun. [00:32:28] Speaker B: And they talk about the, like a conundrum, but not a conundrum. [00:32:33] Speaker A: Paradox. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Paradox. There we go. That's the exact word I was looking for. The paradox of sex being necessary for reproduction, but also, you know, just fun to do. And then God being like, you can't do it for funsies. [00:32:46] Speaker A: It's a sin. [00:32:46] Speaker B: You can only do it for reproduction. And then the Violator does show a little bit of, you know, he's. He's impressed with Lucifer's conception of being like, yeah, it feels good. Yes. But each time they do it, it feels a little less good. So they're always chasing the dragon. And Violeta is like, that's actually. That's actually a pretty good one. That's. That's pretty cruel, dude. And then they go from there to. [00:33:13] Speaker A: Gluttony and there's just like these big creatures, big humans, sucking on the teeth of the stalagmites. [00:33:19] Speaker B: Like the. The Violator says, where are we now? The circle of sucking a teat. [00:33:26] Speaker A: One guy sucks so much he ruptured his stomach, it looks like. Yeah, pretty nasty. [00:33:31] Speaker B: And Violators, or Lucifer is like, yeah, this is the place where, you know, humans are like, they find something good and then they just. Oh, yeah, they do it so much, they explode. Look at that guy. [00:33:40] Speaker A: And they go down one more level to greed. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah, we go to green. We got a whole bunch of like, ghostly skeletons fighting over treasure chests. [00:33:50] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty. Pretty funny. [00:33:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And then greed very quickly just like flows into anger. And then when an ang went into anger sphere again, Lucifer tries to call Violator Basil again. And Violator growls angrily. [00:34:07] Speaker A: They go to the blasphemy, the place where heretics go and it's just crosses everywhere. [00:34:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And Violator points out the irony that the world's big or the universe's greatest blasphemy is Lucifer himself. And here he is punishing people for his very sin. And it's like, ah, rules are rules. This. This blasphemers looks very. Reminds me a lot of the Immolation album from the World Below. The COVID of it is just Jesus on the cross on fire. And it's very reminiscent of this. It's a good album. If you haven't listened to it. If you're into death metal, like, who. [00:34:47] Speaker A: Calls him the Nazarene? [00:34:49] Speaker B: Yay, circle. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Some sort of mockery of the Nazarene. There's a ghost song. They call him the Nazarene. About in a church. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:57] Speaker A: Umbra. In the shadow of the Nazarene, I put my love in you. [00:35:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And then they go from there to violence. Johnny. Oh, boy. [00:35:11] Speaker A: They love this one. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. They both. They both love watching humans killing humans. Johnny. The Violators. Like, you know what? I could. I could. I could be. I could be a pretty happy man doing nothing but watching humans kill each other for all eternity. Yeah. And Lucifer's like, you don't say. Hmm. What do you. You wanna. [00:35:32] Speaker A: You sure you don't want to do this job? He's like, yeah, there's a couple more circles. Bit redundant. [00:35:39] Speaker B: He's like. But they're. He's like, they're the same and they're boring, so we're just not even gonna see them. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Fraud and treachery. Who cares? [00:35:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Bah. They're just frozen. And so Lucifer then pulls out one of the 30 pieces of silver that was used to buy Judas. So it's a fun. It's a fun conceit. One of the 30 pieces of silver. There's a. There's a Batman story called the Judas Coin that follows. It turns out that the coin that Two Face uses was actually originally one of the 30 pieces of silver that Judas got for betraying Christ. It's a fun story. It's cool as hell. And it's Walter Simonson, and it's great. You haven't read the Judas Coin. Go read the Judas Coin. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Okay. He used this Judas Coin to Pay the boatman, Ms. Charter. [00:36:39] Speaker B: Charon on the River Styx. Mm. And Lucifer said, come sail away. Come sail away. [00:36:49] Speaker A: And I like how the Violator points to Ask. So you're just combining all the human mythologies, huh? [00:36:52] Speaker B: It's like, just throw them, mix them up like a gumbo, huh? Dish them out. And so they're having a nice little. A nice little crossing of the River Styx. And I like that. There's just, like, Spanish Armada ships just, like, burning in the river. Sticks. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Oh, sticks. I get why you're seeing Come Sail Away now, because that sticks. Yeah. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that sticks. Yeah. [00:37:17] Speaker A: A gathering of angels. I love the end of that song. Because he says the angels were actually aliens and they climbed their starship and fly off. [00:37:27] Speaker B: Yeah, they just fucking fly away. Sticks. Sticks is wild, man. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Six rules. [00:37:33] Speaker B: They got a good shit, man. They got a song about being a union man. They got a song about just being unemployed and hanging out at Bars, they got a lot of. [00:37:41] Speaker A: Got a poor soul in the unemployment line My God, I'm hardly alive I need those long nights Impossible lights Possible lights Keeping my eye on the keyhole if it takes all night Be just what I am I'm gonna be a. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Blue collar man yeah. Sticks, Rocks, it's so good. They put out a new album this year and it doesn't rock. [00:38:11] Speaker A: Oh, no, they tried. [00:38:14] Speaker B: It is. It is very mid. [00:38:16] Speaker A: Oh, no, sorry, Sticks. Yeah, just a notion, that's all. That reminds me of a song they put out on their album. [00:38:25] Speaker B: But is it, like, he came with. [00:38:26] Speaker A: The album a few years ago, it was. Okay. [00:38:29] Speaker B: All of ABBA famously dead. Or like. No. Oh, but like, one or two of them did, because they did the. They did, like, the Hologram tour a few years. [00:38:38] Speaker A: No, they're not dead, though. I think they just didn't want to tour. Oh, I don't know. [00:38:42] Speaker B: I thought. I thought most of them were dead. [00:38:45] Speaker A: They put out an album a few years ago. [00:38:47] Speaker B: ABBA also rocks. That was real. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they do. Having Styx together again. [00:38:53] Speaker B: Yeah, for the first time. And so they're. They're crossing the river. Styx and Lucifer's just like, basil, I fucking need you, bud. I need you to be my number two. And violators like, oh, descent amongst the ranks. How ironic. [00:39:09] Speaker A: He's like, come on, you, my general, you'll be glorious. And he's like the old, we'll fight God. [00:39:15] Speaker B: We'll do it together. And, yeah, Violators, like, as much as I. As much as seeing you grovel is quite erotic. My answer remains as it always will, Go to Hell. It's just like. [00:39:27] Speaker A: Gives me old finger. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And Lucifer doesn't like that. It's like, well, if you won't. If you won't serve under me, you won't serve anything. [00:39:39] Speaker A: His hands, like, his fingers become tendrils. [00:39:42] Speaker B: He says, let's see if an immortal can die. And he shoots. He's got, like. It looks like fucking tapeworms. His fingers turn into tapeworms. They come out of his eyes and they wrap Violator up at a ball. Violator, like, you're a son of a bitch. What are you doing? You suck, Lucifer. And so Lucifer's there just, like, tightening this ball of nastiness around Violator. And then all of a sudden, he just, like, goes quiet and stops. And his head falls off. [00:40:18] Speaker A: His head falls right off. [00:40:19] Speaker B: And Violator's just like, huh? What? What's this? He's like, thanks for the assist, but what. What happened? [00:40:28] Speaker A: And then it comes Back in the boiler room. [00:40:31] Speaker B: Yeah, he's back as Max Verlitzer. And he's like, what? What? I'm okay. I'm okay. And there's Lucifer in front of him, headless, blood spilling all over. [00:40:41] Speaker A: Someone off the panel says he's dead. [00:40:44] Speaker B: At least temporarily. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Temporarily. [00:40:47] Speaker B: But sometimes that is enough. And it is, Johnny. It is Gloriana. [00:40:52] Speaker A: Gloriana from the first issue. [00:40:55] Speaker B: She says, hello, Basil, or whatever you call yourself these days. And with that, my debt is repaid to you, because remember, Basil, during the fights, saves Gloriana during. During the literal rebellion against heaven. [00:41:14] Speaker A: And she's like, but next time I see you, one of us is gonna die, so you probably shouldn't see me again. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And I do like how Violators like. I don't know what to say. She's like a miracle in and of itself. Johnny, I have a feeling that would probably be said about me at some point, Like, I don't have anything to say. [00:41:37] Speaker A: Amazing. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Fine. Finally he shuts up for once. Yeah, well, not. Not right now. Not yet, anyway. And so better not. You could just finish the show without me, Johnny. I'll just be quiet. [00:41:51] Speaker A: No, I need you. [00:41:53] Speaker B: Oh, it's wonderful to be needed. And so the Violator is just left there with the body of Lucifer, and he's like, well, you dick. Why. Why did you have to do this? So he picks up the. The head of Lucifer, and he's just like you, sort of squeezes it till it explodes and it squirts him right in the eye. [00:42:16] Speaker A: It's important because he's like, you kind of inspired me, though. If the throne of Hell is at risk, I might think I might be able to. Want to take it from you. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:24] Speaker A: So he's got ambitions now. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Yeah, more than. More than just his earthly ambitions of being a real nasty dude. [00:42:34] Speaker A: Now he might be a real nasty dude as the ruler of Hell. [00:42:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I think a nasty dude is probably the best choice for the ruler of Hell. Johnny. Not. Not to get political about it, but it seems like the nasty you are, the better of a fit you are. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Do you mean you're trying to say we live in Hell? Maybe because our leader is so nasty. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Jesus fucking Christ. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Dumping poop on protesters. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Johnny, we do not have enough. We do not have enough time on my hard drive for us to get into that. [00:43:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Some people. Some people want, you know, the podcast to end at some point. This will be, like the world's longest episode of podcast if we go there. [00:43:16] Speaker A: You're just doing the use rushing out of here. Because, you know, you're editing this episode. [00:43:20] Speaker B: I mean, you can. You can edit this episode if you wanna. [00:43:25] Speaker A: No. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Well, I mean, this, It's. It's hard to not rush through it. It just like moves, Johnny. [00:43:34] Speaker A: No, it's. [00:43:35] Speaker B: It moves so quick. It moves so quick because, yeah, after. [00:43:39] Speaker A: He washes Lucifer's skull. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Yeah. It squirts him right in the eye and he's like. Actually, it looks like there's five letters, but I can't think of a what it would be for five letters. But anyways, he curses. [00:43:54] Speaker A: He says, penis. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Penis. Do you. Wait, you don't want to play the penis game, Johnny. You don't want to yell penis. [00:44:01] Speaker A: No, no, I don't. [00:44:03] Speaker B: That means. That means I win. Hell yeah. I never win anything. [00:44:09] Speaker A: You won't. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Well, you know what I want, Johnny? [00:44:12] Speaker A: Then we get a spawn skull to end the issue. [00:44:14] Speaker B: That's what I want is the spawn skull to end the issue. Then we get a little bit of the inks that we have done that. They've done this for all of the issues of Violator so far. [00:44:25] Speaker A: Yeah. We get a panel where his, like, skin melts off. That's pretty cool. [00:44:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So wild. And then we get the two page spread of Violator falling through the floor in his club all the way down to the void of hell. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Mm. [00:44:40] Speaker B: And then their passage over the River Styx. And after that, we've got the new generation, new stories, new youw ad. Look at those. Yep. Look at those books. All of them. Look at that. That Rat City cover is so dope. It's Bjorn Barrens, Johnny. I can tell from a mile away. [00:44:59] Speaker A: Sure can. [00:45:00] Speaker B: Mm. [00:45:02] Speaker A: We got the Image Classics ad. [00:45:04] Speaker B: Yeah. On the back of the back cover. And that, Johnny, that. That's Violator number five of six. [00:45:13] Speaker A: That is Violator number five of six. [00:45:17] Speaker B: Damn, Johnny. This book. This book just moves. This book just moves. [00:45:24] Speaker A: It's a zoomer. [00:45:25] Speaker B: It's a zoomer. It's. It's at least 12 years younger than me. Yes. Yes, indeed. [00:45:30] Speaker A: It's a boomer and a zoomer. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Mm. Boomer. Zoomer, Zoomer. [00:45:36] Speaker A: Boomer, Zoomer, Boomer. Goomer. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Goomer. Oh, man. Oh, man. I just realized, Johnny, that moving back to Oklahoma instead of being like, I went to osu, and everybody thinking you went to Ohio State University. Sorry, the Ohio State University. Everybody's just like, yeah, fuck you, I'm an OU fan. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Sad. Yeah. What are you gonna do about. [00:46:04] Speaker A: Actually helps. It's nice because, like, people actually care. [00:46:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:08] Speaker A: You know, on your resume and stuff. They're like, oh, wow, you went to osu? [00:46:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Not like in Chicago, where they're like, what the fuck is that? [00:46:15] Speaker B: They're like, what do you mean? You didn't go to the Ohio State University? I was like, no, no, no. I went to a school that their mascot was just based off of an old man who walked around with guns. [00:46:26] Speaker A: That's the school I went to. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah. As far as I know, there's still apparently a bullet hole in. Oh, whatever, the. The classroom building that's next to the student union. He apparently acts his. One of his pistols went off while he was in there once, and they apparently kept the bullet holes in the ceiling. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Yeah, very exciting. I'd go to. I'd go back to an OSU game, I think. I think it would be enjoyable. Yeah. I went mostly because I love Bullet. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Here comes Bullet. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Here comes Bullet. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Oh, we won't see him very often because they don't score very well. [00:47:07] Speaker B: Su. Uso. Uso. Sorry, we're narrow casting to ex OSU people now. Yeah, the paddle people still there. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Mm. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Damn paddle people. [00:47:23] Speaker A: There's a section of people in banana suits. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Nice. [00:47:26] Speaker A: There's a section of people took their shirts off and swung around over their heads. [00:47:29] Speaker B: So. Yeah, I saw that. It's like they started 12th Manning. [00:47:34] Speaker A: They started doing that. Yeah. [00:47:35] Speaker B: Weird. Weird. For those. For those who don't know, Texas A and M has a section of people called the 12th man who stand at the ready the entire time. And literally they stand there waving towels above their head and just yell for four hours straight without stopping. It's intense. A and M is such an intense team. Jesus Christ. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. [00:48:02] Speaker B: They're so, like, old school military, but, you know. You know who would never join the military, Johnny. [00:48:10] Speaker A: Cool. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Any of these fucking dogs I got here, they would. They would not be wanted by any military in the world, I can guarantee you. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Yeah, they're all blind. [00:48:20] Speaker B: They're all. They're all blind or deaf or just dumb as shit. [00:48:25] Speaker A: They're really good as pinball, though. [00:48:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. They go, beep. [00:48:29] Speaker A: That deaf, dumb and blind dog sure plays a mean pinball. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Oh, Johnny. I think. I think my rating for that dog would be that's Wizard. [00:48:42] Speaker A: He's a pinball wizard, baby. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that's Wizard. That's a long walk to say, Johnny, it's time to rate this puppy. [00:48:50] Speaker A: It's time to rate the puppy. [00:48:55] Speaker B: Oh, we love rating a puppy. [00:48:57] Speaker A: It's just one puppy this week. [00:49:00] Speaker B: It's a big puppy, though. [00:49:02] Speaker A: Big puppy. Violator number five. A big, hefty puppy. [00:49:05] Speaker B: Remember. Remember that one episode way early in the run where I said, let's rate this bitch, And I immediately felt, like, very gross about it. [00:49:15] Speaker A: I kind of remember that. [00:49:16] Speaker B: I think about that a lot. That's a thought that keeps me awake at night. Why did I say that? Why did I get so intense on the waiting? The rating. [00:49:27] Speaker A: You just wanted to rate it. [00:49:28] Speaker B: I just wanted to rate it real bad. [00:49:30] Speaker A: Well, Violator 5 is a fun. Another little story in Time of the Violator. This time we're in Nazi Germany. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:41] Speaker A: I love the intro. The bookends of the Max character bringing in the Nazi and showing me all his decapitated friends. And I love the Lucifer stuff. Just like walking through all the really trippy hell yeah realms. I thought it was fun. I like how it called back to the first issue with the armor with the characters of Basil and Gloriana. Or not Basil, but Lucifer, calling him Basil. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:10] Speaker A: And Gloriana. And it makes me excited for the sixth issue to see how it all wraps up. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's a real good issue, Johnny. [00:50:19] Speaker A: As with these other violators, we get the new art. We get Kevin McGuire art, which is just. Just like you said, very clean. [00:50:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:25] Speaker A: And Ben Templesmith, like, trippy Hell stuff is really cool. [00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Ben Templesmith is a very spooky guy. If you want. If you want something drawn spooky, you go to Ben Templesmith. [00:50:37] Speaker A: There's, like, the Gluttony people and, like, the greed people are so creepy. [00:50:42] Speaker B: I think he. I think he had maybe a little bit too much fun on the lust panels. [00:50:46] Speaker A: Yeah. There's, like, an alien sucking on a girl's head. [00:50:50] Speaker B: There's this. There's this. There's this little tiny guy just, like, taking this big old goat thing from behind. Yeah. Ridiculous. I like that the. I like that the Gluttony. The Gluttony suckers all have, like, these little bitty guys on them. Mm. Just like evil demon babies. Close to a world below. Johnny, that's what the. That's what the name of that immolation album I was thinking of was. Close to a world below. Okay, I know. I know that our friend Justin Haley would be upset if I misattributed the name of a immolation album. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Well, I'm glad you corrected it. [00:51:34] Speaker B: Yes, yes, I'm sure he will be, too. Justin. Email us if you're. If you are happy about that. [00:51:39] Speaker A: I liked all the art, like, the issue. I'm going to give it 4.5 exploding stomachs because I feel so full of joy. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:51:51] Speaker A: When I read it. [00:51:51] Speaker B: You're such a. You're such a glutton for Spawn that you just explode. [00:51:55] Speaker A: I mean, I am exploding with Spawn. [00:51:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:58] Speaker A: It's everywhere. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Oh, man, it's so good. I do like that. It's. It's very much like. It's Almost exactly issue 8, only instead of being wacky and you got your. Your best buddy Vinnie there, just being like, fun, crazy hell guy. It's. It's very. It's very serious and very classic, but very. It's very good. [00:52:21] Speaker A: Mm. [00:52:22] Speaker B: Oh, man. And it just. It just moves. It's a big. It's a big beefy book, but goes by very quickly. I'm gonna give it five decapitated Nazis. And it's. Whoa. I fucking loved this issue. I've loved this series. I love this issue. I've hyped up this issue so much since we've started covering them that I can't give it anything less than a five. It's fucking great. And also, fuck those Nazis. Yeah. They suck. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Sorry to give it a five, David. It just felt. It didn't feel right. [00:52:59] Speaker B: That's fine. [00:52:59] Speaker A: 4.5 felt right. [00:53:01] Speaker B: Johnny, you gotta do what moves the spirit. It's a good as hell book. [00:53:06] Speaker A: Absolutely. I love this Violator series. It's been excellent. [00:53:09] Speaker B: It's just so fun seeing him be like, some of the worst people in history. [00:53:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:14] Speaker B: Meeting some of the worst people in history. Killing some of the worst people in history. [00:53:18] Speaker A: Eating some of the worst people in history. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Yeah. He's done that several times. He. He has no fucks to give, Johnny. He's just going to violate what he violates, whether they want it or not. [00:53:31] Speaker A: That's in the name. [00:53:32] Speaker B: It's right there on the tin. Yeah. [00:53:35] Speaker A: You know what else is on the tin? [00:53:37] Speaker B: What's that? [00:53:38] Speaker A: Our name. Which is how you find our email on Instagram. [00:53:42] Speaker B: Yes, indeed we are. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Regarding Spawn Pod on Instagram. [00:53:44] Speaker B: We are. [00:53:45] Speaker A: And you can reach us@ regarding spawnpodgmail.com. [00:53:48] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:53:50] Speaker A: And every week, like to ask a question. This week I would ask, which realm of Hell will you end up in that we saw in this issue? I'm gonna end up in Purgatory because I'm a baby. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Goo Goo Gaga. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Goo Goo Gaga. I'm just a big baby. [00:54:08] Speaker B: Johnny. I would. [00:54:09] Speaker A: No, I don't know. I'd probably end up in Gluttony. [00:54:11] Speaker B: I would probably end up in Gluttony because, man, you put some food in front of me, even if I'm not hungry. I'm going to eat at it. I'm going to be like, I want. [00:54:19] Speaker A: If I like something, I usually really indulge in it. [00:54:22] Speaker B: Yeah, indulgence is definitely my biggest vice. [00:54:27] Speaker A: Yeah. We both be sucking at that teat and our stomachs would be exploding. [00:54:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I guess. I guess it's good to know how we're gonna spend eternity, isn't it? [00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:35] Speaker B: I'll see you there, bud. [00:54:37] Speaker A: I'll see you there. We'll be there. Sucking on the teat. [00:54:39] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe. [00:54:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Let me know. Which one of these are you? Are you greed? Anger, Gluttony? Are you a baby? Lust all the ones. [00:54:50] Speaker B: Are you one of the last two? Treachery and deceit? [00:54:54] Speaker A: Hmm? Are you a heretic? [00:54:57] Speaker B: Are you? [00:54:58] Speaker A: Let us know. [00:54:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:59] Speaker A: And while you're on the Internet, make sure to look up Lonnie Bones. He does our music. [00:55:03] Speaker B: Yes, he does. [00:55:04] Speaker A: You find him wherever you get music. [00:55:06] Speaker B: It's a hellish good time. [00:55:08] Speaker A: Hell of a good time. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Hell of a good time. Yeah. [00:55:11] Speaker A: What else a hell of a good time is this podcast, and I'd like to keep it going another episode, David, if that's okay with you. [00:55:16] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, yes, I would like to keep it going. But first, before we promote further. Further excesses of our gluttonous binge on Spawn, why don't we try to alleviate some of our deadly sins by spreading out the wealth amongst the Spawnverts? [00:55:39] Speaker A: Oh, yes, we got to do that. I forgot. [00:55:42] Speaker B: We got to shout out a friend on Instagram. You know, you got to give them some love. We got to counteract all of this. All this gluttonous, lustful babiness. And this week, Johnny, I wanted to shout out a friend. Ray. One, one, one, six, six. Six. That's R, A, E. One, one, one, six, six, six. Those are numerals. His name's Roman. He does some really fucking good art. And let me tell you, Johnny, the percentage of this art that is Spawn art is very high. [00:56:21] Speaker A: Nice. [00:56:22] Speaker B: He also has been doing some digital modeling for Spawn action figures and doing some action figure painting and, you know, like, making custom meatball spawn heads for action figures and stuff. Oh, it's so cool. [00:56:37] Speaker A: Sweet. [00:56:38] Speaker B: It's so cool. Okay, back to our regularly scheduled. Back to. [00:56:41] Speaker A: Well, I just forgot to do that. So we got it all out of order. I was excited to make a transition. Yeah. So next week. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:50] Speaker A: What do you want to do, David? [00:56:51] Speaker B: Well, Johnny, I want to talk some more Spawn is what I want to do. Absolutely, absolutely. We already I guess we've already established that it's a baseline. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Yes, but. [00:57:00] Speaker B: But next week we're going to read some kingspawn 47 and scorched 43. Because we haven't done those ones in about a month. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Cool. I love Scorched. Love King Spawn. Excited to get back to it? [00:57:12] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Let's do it. So that's scorched 43, kingspawn 47. Find yourself some copies of those, come back and listen to us in a week, talk about them. It'll be fun. Because, Johnny, this is the very issue that I spoke of that we have to mention something about why I got the COVID that I got. [00:57:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:57:30] Speaker B: For those listening at home, I am pointing at the reason I bought the COVID to Johnny. [00:57:35] Speaker A: Yes. We'll talk about it next week. [00:57:37] Speaker B: If you would like to know the reason, tune in next week. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Tune in next week. I know the reason. I know the secrets. Yeah, great. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that's excellent. [00:57:48] Speaker A: Don't forget, make sure to rate, review and subscribe wherever you can, everywhere. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Tell your friends, your family, your loved ones, your not so loved ones, your. Your co workers, some random guy on the bus, you know, maybe you go to Tulsa's best rated local restaurant. [00:58:07] Speaker A: Tallies. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Tallies? Yeah, Tully's Tallies. Whatever one that is Tallies. Go eat breakfast with a whole bunch of blue collar workers and talk to them about Spawn. See if they. See if they even give you any time of day. Don't. Don't bother the people eating breakfast. Y'. All. [00:58:25] Speaker A: Don't do it. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Don't do it. Don't go into the Waffle House talking about Spawn. You go into the Waffle House, you eat, you leave. You can talk about Spawn elsewhere. Man, I want a Waffle House. How many times have you been to Waffle House since you've been back? [00:58:37] Speaker A: Zero. [00:58:38] Speaker B: Boy, I'm gonna have to send you some money and say, Johnny, you can only accept this money if you go to Waffle House. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Okay? I went to Village Inn. [00:58:47] Speaker B: Oh, man, Village. Does Village Inn still have their pie happy hour, where it's like $5 slices of pie? Oh, fuck. [00:58:53] Speaker A: They have free pie on like Tuesday or something? [00:58:55] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. Village Inn pie is delicious. It's so good. We talked a little bit about hell. Hell, yeah. We talked a little about the hell we're gonna talk about next week. Hell, yeah. We talked about all kinds of stuff we like. And I think Johnny, to avoid exploding like a glutton in that one circle of hell, I'm gonna have to say. I have nothing to say but may the scorch be with you. [00:59:22] Speaker A: And also with you, David. [00:59:23] Speaker B: Hell yeah. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Hell yeah. [00:59:26] Speaker B: But yeah. Hell yeah, that's a lot of good hell. [00:59:28] Speaker A: We're overdosing on hell. We're gluttonous on hell. [00:59:30] Speaker B: Hell. Do you think if you overdose on hell as a glutton in hell that you go to another layer of gluttonous hell? [00:59:41] Speaker A: Yes, David. That's how we got to this reality. We find ourselves. [00:59:44] Speaker B: It's this, like recursive hells. [00:59:48] Speaker A: This is the second hell. [00:59:49] Speaker B: This is the say. Oh, boy. How. How deep does. How deep does this rabbit hole go, Johnny? [00:59:55] Speaker A: You don't want to know. [00:59:56] Speaker B: Oh, boy. We're gonna find out though, aren't we? [00:59:58] Speaker A: At least. At least 10 levels. [01:00:00] Speaker B: I guess. [01:00:01] Speaker A: That's at least 13. I don't remember however many were in issue 8. The psychic ice shrimp will come for us all, boy. [01:00:07] Speaker B: Either. Either that or we'll be. Either that or we'll just be the playthings of the. The powerful spirits. [01:00:16] Speaker A: Aren'T we anyway? [01:00:17] Speaker B: I mean, I guess we are kind of like the capricious gods play things. What if all of existence was basically just Dark Helmet playing with his toys and we're just his toys? It's fucking Rick Moranis and a goddamn big ass Helmet smashing us together. Smashing us together. [01:00:38] Speaker A: Doing Spawn podcasts with his action figures. [01:00:40] Speaker B: No, I didn't see you playing with your toys again, sir. We could. We should do a. We should do a double. A double feature. Johnny Spawn his spaceballs. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Okay, that appeals because you. Because you saved me this. Because you saved me the score street with you, and they saved me the Schwarzpy with you. [01:00:56] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. It's a double feature designed specifically for one person. Me. [01:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty much. [01:01:04] Speaker B: That's. That's what curation is though, right, Johnny? It's. I like this. So you should like this too. Here. Here's some stuff. [01:01:11] Speaker A: I mean, you're not wrong. [01:01:14] Speaker B: I mean, I have seen worse exhibits. [01:01:18] Speaker A: All I have to say is, may the Schwartz be with you. [01:01:24] Speaker B: Adorable Sam.